@@PHelsing The effects from the fumes are a bonus, in my opinion. Think of the long-term savings on, well, everything! 🙃 Edit: Maybe I should design a diy radioactive-decay powered pump. We all know RGB = FPS, and this will add a host of wavelengths to your lighting effects! Would mutating a 6th finger be considered an unfair advantage in games?
@@Hellsong89 No this was 100% one of Alex's gagillion ideas on how to cool a computer in the stupidest way possible. This is very on brand for an Alex video; lets not forget that he was the brains behind the entertainingly stupid series about making a cpu heat sink from scratch.
WHEW. thank GOD this video came out when it did. I was just about to start installing my General Motors EMD 710 series engine into my PC. guess I'll just go with air cooling this time around. Thank you Landon Tech Tips for this valuable insight!
When you decrease the pipe diameter and increase the flow you increase the friction of the water against the pipe wall, which should be factored into your head pressure calculation. You need larger diameter pipe and fittings.
The most impressive thing about this video, is how clear the voices recording is, considering there is a fuel powered compressor running next to Linus and Alex.
@@rubiconnn i was gonna say rtx voice on vs off plus the noise scrubbing technology. They really can make a noisy area sound near silent . mind boggling a little
How long until they buy a slushie machine and try to pump slush through the system? Oh god, I've already said it out loud. They're probably on ebay looking for a slush maker right now.
The engine wasn't overheating, it was just the paint cooking off for the first time since you hadn't really put it under load before. Those small air cooled engines are hard to kill
@@bvoyelr No. The pump itself uses water to cool and lubricate it. However, the engine is self contained and air cooled. You can remove the engine from this pump and run it stand alone without issue.
love how they include little tips like "dont leave your reguar pump connected or it could get burned out" Thanks LTT next time I hook up my gas powered pump to my pc i'll remember that one
According to Bernoulli's Equation as the diameter of a pipe decreases the pressure will also decrease while the velocity increases. That means when you take a pump with 37PSI of pressure at a 1" diameter and a flow rate of 9539 l/h and reduce it down to a 1/4" diameter the water will leave the fitting at 5.8PSi and 74.88km/h.
The pressure losses in that loop must have been quite something. Ramming that amount of water trough all those fittings and channels :D Should have measured dP of the loop for giggles.
As someone who professionally works with high pressure fluids and their associated fittings regularly, this video made me oscillate from cringing to snorting with laughter in an unsettling but overall enjoyable way.
As someone who dosen't work with high pressure fluids and really only has basic physics knowledge, i bet that they lost a lot of that "flow" in turbulence. I would expect that you can't just push the water harder through the series of small tubes with complex geometry and expect it to not just dump all it's energy into the walls (and into itself). Also, shouldn't they have tried to pull the water throug the loop instead of pushing it?
@@raphaelambrosiuscosteau829 Most of the time you want to push liquids instead of pulling them. Pulling them lowers the pressure, which causes cavitation, which is bubbles of gas popping in and out of existence. Cavitation eats away at the tubes.
@@kylerichardson514 intuitively it feels for me that pulling would create more even flow through the loop instead of water coming out fast at the beginning and then dumping it all into the first couple of sharp turns it encounters. I do not know why it feels that way or if it's has any basis in reality though. Also, would've like to see flow meters at the start and at the end of the loop side by side to compare flow speeds.
As someone who professionally designed electrical control systems for industrial machinery and once witnessed what happens when a high pressure hose (50-60 bar, I think) blows off a fitting, I have a healthy fear/respect for high pressure fluids.
For the next cooling experiment, try cooling a PC with a liquid metal loop like an early nuclear reactor. Liquid metals like Mercury and NaK (the preferred choice for cooling applications) can be circulated using a electromagnetic pump. The pump applies a current to the metal inside of a strong magnetic field, causing it to be repelled and move perpendicular to the magnetic field.
If only it was legal to buy mercury in the first place, specifically talking about Canada, not to mention the tens of thousands of dollars worth of safety equipment needed.
If they're completely suicidal then sure, use NaK, burn down the entire lab. Mercury sounds like a health and safety nightmare to deal with, especially if it leaks anywhere.
I agree with the jank part, but most times it's so jank I can't even call it fun, all I can see is wasted potential if a little more thought and time were given to it
6:11 "these compressions are not the right size for this tubing!" "Yea I was hoping it would just blow off when we turned the thing on" "You booby trapped it?!" Linus and Alex a perfect duo
The companies housed around LTT must have so many "What the actual F are the doing now O.o" moments.... P.s. that pump looks like it could use some water cooling.
Man, watching this video feels like watching MythBusters again, I like the chaotic energy that it has and the suspense of something going wrong any second, I like it, It would be great if they make more videos like this I lost it when Alex said "I think we can overclock the pump" 🤣🤣😂😂😂
In brief, at one point the show's ratings started waning, after which they initially cut Kari, Grant and Tory; then it became economically unfeasible to go on even with just Adam and Jamie. A reboot of sorts was attempted, but never went far. Adam now does TH-cam, while the others have undertook careers away from the limelight.
@@LoganRas a bad idea as ethanol boils at like 75ish degrees. So if it get hot enough 5% of the loop is gonna vaporise and ethonal is also very flammable. also beer is generally carbonated.
This reminds me of the Top Gear episode where they made a V8 powered blender and rocking chair. Maybe they can run a single water cool loop through multiple PCs using a gas powered pump.
Engineering-wise, I would have recommended a bleed-off line with a valve between the pump’s inlet and outlet. Start it with the bypass open (theoretically 0 down the load line), the divert the flow to the load by closing down the bypass valve, preferably gradually, until you find the limits your load can take.
+ an over-pressure valve to save your electronics. Though sometimes a bypass arrangement can be extremely sensitive to tiny amounts of change in the valve position.
As an engineer, I applaud the use of the Bernouli equation (even though it wasn't used correctly). As the owner of a plumbing company though, I can only shake my head. As a computer nerd, I'm happy with this video. Next time, use larger diameter tubes, shorter runs, an electric motor for the pump... If your building uses chilled water for the A/C system, you totally need a permanent manifold to connect PC cooling loops to. Overall, a 7/10. As my daughter's kindergarten teacher would say: "Keep up the great work :)"
I would say that he could outright just use the tapwater for cooling, and it might just do as good a job as this clunky oil drinking monster setup. After all, the tap water in a porperly designed building tend to already have enough pressure and waterflow in it, while such tiny pipes in these computers really doesn't need too much cool water at too high a speed to handle it. And yeah, wasting water isn't good, but you could always recollect them for other general usages or even for water heaters so ...
@@escwan6329 You bring up a good point about needing to keep the water flowing, by having to dump the discharge instead of circulating it. While impractical, it's still a better idea than what was done in this video, and I would like to see it done.
@@matthewesunderland definitely a missed opportunity to explain some commonly misunderstood fluid dynamics concepts. Their actual cooling results were interesting enough that I hope they explore this more in the future with a more practical high flow set up. I would love to see results from using many regular PC cooling pumps in series and/or parallel. Added reliability bonus too! Now I kinda want to try it for my own PC...
I want to see an actual attempt to use that engine to REALLY pump water over a custom loop. With huge tubes and flow rate. Would be fun to make a high flow rate blocks and stuff.
I've already said this, and it's a very risky thing to say. Imagine you are on an island, and there is another island over there. And you want to conquer it. And they are ruled by a leader. "Oh but they are disciplined, and they obey their leader. It's impossible to defeat them." Ah, then we will impose democracy on them. Democratic propaganda! We will promote the most democratic way. "Oh, but they have nationalism! They will sacrifice themselves to protect their land." Ah, we will spread globalist ideology. Remove all notions of nationalism and patriotism, promote these ideas as evil. Turn them against each other so they will hate their own country and race. "Oh, but they also have incredible faith in God! They have such faith in God that they never abandon the front." Ah, then let's promote atheism and hedonism. Church time is over. From now on, only night clubs and pornography. They must be open about sex. "Oh, but the youth are healthy and strong. They're in formidable shape. They are the way the Creator made them: in his image." Ok then, from now on McDonald's, Coca-Cola, drugs, alcohol, video games. Let them be fat, lazy, weak, domesticated, undisciplined. We must abolish military service. "Ah... yeah but the other thing is that they are homogenous. They are a single people, a single race. There is no ethnic chaos." Ok, then in whatever way, we must send them boats with foreigners - whites, blacks, Asians, Muslims, Chinese. "But they have a lot of babies! 6 or 7 babies on average! They're happy to have large families!" Ok, from now on abortion, the pill. You have now defeated that island without firing a single bullet.
@@mduckernz It would need to be a custom block, probably with just a flow optimized chamber over the cpu instead of the microfins in most current blocks. big 3/4 in npt ports on it lol
With such a massive reservoir they could even run it closed loop for quite some time before the water gets warmer. And if they optimize the water container to be made of metal and flat and with ridges kind of like a heater at home, then they would have a giant passive radiator
Or they could re-use their radiator from the boiler they found a few years ago. If they’re gonna overkill anyway, might be good to bring that out again
They did remove the radiator, because they are attaching to the loop via the external fittings where the radiator was attached under the desk in the sleeper PC build.
@@Joshimitsu91 Oh yeah, that’s right. I forgot that the radiator was mounted under the desk in that build. Good catch. I believe the pump and reservoir were internal and still connected to the loop.
Surprising how the loop held up under the pumping force. Having dealt with replacing the pump on the well in our garden, the pressure of a high-powered pump can be huge. This reminds me, maybe he could get a well drilled in his garden and use a pump in there hooked up to water cooling without a radiator. Wouldn't be practice, but would certainly be fun.
Probably more effect from the 50gal trash can of water (giant thermal mass) rather than the extra flow rate. In any case, still pleasing to the eyes and ears!
Always be careful fiddling with the max RPM limiter on these simple engines, cause they will rev to the moon and back if you loosen it too much. I blew a head gasket on one doing 9k RPMs cause these are designed for such low RPM cases.
Pretty sure the engine/pump were only planned to be used for one show anyway so pushing it until something broke was what they were trying, and if it had been the engine, they'd be fine with that.
I've done governor deletes on a ton of motors, specifically the predators and they don't usually rev past 7k cause of valve float, the main thing that gives before anything else is flywheel, piston and rod mainly
If there's one thing I've learned from ICEwave in BattleBots, it's that sometimes internal combustion engines aren't worth the hassle. Also congrats to the winning team this year, especially for defeating the overhyped _Hydra_ in the process. Shouldn't have even been given that playoff position ahead of _Mammoth._
No but the end did make me wonder if that if you lived next to stream or other water source it would be worth pumping water directly from there for cooling...
I feel caught. I have a fresh water well for my house that has a pump like that just powered by green pixies. Some hydraulic hoses and machined fittings. Infinite supply of cold water in the single digits.
Linus is slowly evolving into “Red Green” with his wild antics. You can hear it in his voice, the slow evolution is his change in pitch with his “voices”.
The intro is too iconic, it's basically a meme at this point i'm 100% sure that removing it is gonna hurt more than increasing watch time for like 8 seconds.
This was a fantastic watch, I know LTT is a big business with serious means but this informal silliness is just so refreshing! With fantastic production quality too!
The entire world: Converting fossil fuel powered cars to electric. Linus: "MY PC BOUT TO CHUG GUZZOLINE LIKE A TRUCK ON A HOT TEXAS MORNING GOING UP A ROOF LET'S GOOOO"
Would love to see a channel/ series where Alex engineer-splains thing in detail. Like a deep dive into the math and physics behind some of these experiments.
Yeah, as someone in the pumping industry i too appreciate the physics and math behind it. I'm sure more than a few other viewers are the same (though betting less than half would admit it).
I would love to see a video where they go around and interview the peoole who work on the other buildings around them and get their opinions on what it is like working around this team
I'm getting a total Steve Smith (Red Green) vibes from Linus around the 9:30-10:00 mark. Both classic Canadians, building impractical, gas powered "solutions" that I can't help but feel patriotic pride about as a fellow Canuck. Fantastic work from the whole LMG crew!
10:05 Wait, SERIOUSLY?!?😱🤯💥🥶 You got a gas pump connected to a PC running at max power to get great thermals, and now you want to overclock the PUMP?!?!
Ok next, I want to see you try a electric automotive fuel pump. The brushless fuel pumps like the Holley units should be able to give you all the flow you desire! Plus you can control the pumps!
Awesome video.. power fist to the rescue!! Man Lunis I remember you having your first child, they're getting SO big.. what a wonderful life, I hope you're cherishing all those moments.. thanks so much for the videos!
I like how the more excited Linus gets, the louder and more Canadian he gets, eh? And if the pump is getting hot, now you need to cool that. Thermodynamics and conservation of energy are a pest.
It's possible to blow the gaskets on the pumps or build enough pressure to even rip the screws out of a metal block. However, I think the connection points between hose and hardware (as seen in the video) are the most likely failure points in the loop. They have a lathe, so they could fabricate connectors that would allow them to use the armored water lines used for residential sinks and toilets to give those connections more of a chance. In that case, I could see the acrylic water block for the GPU failing far sooner than the metal CPU block. But there still is the reservoir in the PC that would likely fail first.
Good idea, thinking of the power draw of the RTX4xxx series .... but those gas prices *sniffs I kinda did that back in the days (where PhenomII was new^^). We used a pump from the central heating system and copper pipes. To cool two gaming pc's in a row. Both were fitted with customized water cooling on CPU and GPU. Our container had 65L of distilled water with anti corrosion and anti bacteria additives in it. A hell of a project and worked awesome. Not necessary to mention we also had a big radiator :D
The advantage of the motor pump is that you won't notice your fan being too loud...
@@PHelsing
The effects from the fumes are a bonus, in my opinion. Think of the long-term savings on, well, everything! 🙃
Edit: Maybe I should design a diy radioactive-decay powered pump. We all know RGB = FPS, and this will add a host of wavelengths to your lighting effects!
Would mutating a 6th finger be considered an unfair advantage in games?
WHAT?!
@@innocentbystander3317 let's get a ducking nuclear power plant hooked up to that baby
@@Thexuricompany WHAT'D YOU SAY? I CANT HEAR YOU OVER THE *MORE POWER GROWL GROWL GROWL* NOISE MY PC PUMP IS MAKING!
@@PHelsing why would the lights dim? The pump is gas...
"I think we can overclock the pump"
It was throwing off a lot of smoke at the end there. They clearly need to watercool it.
@@harbl99 use a gas pump for the watercooler and get stuck in an infinite loop
@@harbl99 powered by another gasoline pump
@unreal petrol
@unreal or gas
this truly is one of the linus tech tips videos of all time
this is one of the most comment of all time
@@krystiandymurski1469 this is one of the most reply of all time
@Boost_Java this is one of the people with no humor of all time
one of the most enjoyable videos this year from ltt. They both worked together making fun and having fun, it was a great watch. Good Job
This joke is getting old
Others: "How much did you over clock your PC?"
Linus: "To about 15 mpg!"
Others: "WHAT?!?!"
This channel is progressively descending into madness and I'm all for it
Its ether sign of running out of ideas... or yes loosing their minds... or some acid was consumed to come up these ideas..
@@Hellsong89 No this was 100% one of Alex's gagillion ideas on how to cool a computer in the stupidest way possible. This is very on brand for an Alex video; lets not forget that he was the brains behind the entertainingly stupid series about making a cpu heat sink from scratch.
nah you mistook it. It's Ascending into a meme channel :)
Yes, yeeeeees! More madness moooooooore!!!!
@@Hellsong89 It's more interesting than reviewing the same old mid-cycle refresh GPUs that all the other tech channels have already done.
WHEW. thank GOD this video came out when it did. I was just about to start installing my General Motors EMD 710 series engine into my PC. guess I'll just go with air cooling this time around. Thank you Landon Tech Tips for this valuable insight!
👽
are you considering those 150 mm 220 volts AC Fans?!
I am considering getting 2.
👽👽👽
I love how you're using a gasoline-powered pump in front of an "EV Parking Only" sign.
Well, it ain't illegal. Yet...
When you decrease the pipe diameter and increase the flow you increase the friction of the water against the pipe wall, which should be factored into your head pressure calculation. You need larger diameter pipe and fittings.
"I think we can over clock the pump!"
"Wait what?!?!"
Hilarious stuff. I always love the crazy water cooling stuff LTT does.
*eurobeat intensifies*
Next video: "COOLING A PC WITH A JET ENGINE"
Over clocking the pump got me dead lol
Cant wait till they do a test with different liquids as coolant(apple juice, choco milk, etc.). JayZ done it, it was an awesome video.
At this point it looks like they need to watercool the pump as well
The most impressive thing about this video, is how clear the voices recording is, considering there is a fuel powered compressor running next to Linus and Alex.
they use lavalier microphones, those are attached to the host’s shirt, so the recording is pretty clear
You should see their RTX Voice test. It's crazy how well it works.
I’m willing to bet someone spent a lot of time making sure this audio was just right.
@@rubiconnn i was gonna say rtx voice on vs off plus the noise scrubbing technology. They really can make a noisy area sound near silent . mind boggling a little
why did you put a comma after video
These videos with Alex are giving me old school mythbusters vibes and are a new favourite of mine. Brilliant work amazingly entertaining!
More like the top gear vibes
In this one anyways
Alex is the man
Bring out Tori Grant and Kari.
alex' cooling stuff together with linus are hands down my favourite ltt vids
@@MrMCDiggles rip grant :(
What an insane video
Feels like you came up with everything last minute like a class project
In their staff meeting, Linus asked: How crazy more can we get with water cooling?
Someone took it personally.
How long until they buy a slushie machine and try to pump slush through the system? Oh god, I've already said it out loud. They're probably on ebay looking for a slush maker right now.
I want to see this now
they could have achieved the same results just hooking the PC straight up to a water hose and turning it to full blast.
Ngl i was lowkey expecting a fire hose know these mfs
@@pirojfmifhghek566 Now they're going to do this and you're responsible for the horror! Good luck living with yourself now...
*Gas prices at an all time high*
Linus: "What a perfect time to make a PC that runs on gasoline"
that's a baller move😅
Can't wait to see EV version of it.
@@Bilbo__Bagginsjust get the same pump with a electric motor
The engine wasn't overheating, it was just the paint cooking off for the first time since you hadn't really put it under load before. Those small air cooled engines are hard to kill
Literal burn-in.
@@bvoyelr No. The pump itself uses water to cool and lubricate it. However, the engine is self contained and air cooled. You can remove the engine from this pump and run it stand alone without issue.
I don't think anything is hard to kill with LTT.
Yeah, small cheap Chinese engines are as indestructible as 3310s
Yeah, that black coating barely lasts a single season for most stuff I've seen with it
Had a pump like that one time, the burning was most likely an anti corrosion coating on the exhaust cover that burns off as you use it
Linus: "We wouldn't recommend this as a daily driver"
Me: _Returns to Amazon and cancels the order_
Sed😔
@@pullie420 zad😢
@@pullie420 zad
@@Horizon-main ced😭
love how they include little tips like "dont leave your reguar pump connected or it could get burned out"
Thanks LTT next time I hook up my gas powered pump to my pc i'll remember that one
I genuinely wanna hear alex explain the math
According to Bernoulli's Equation as the diameter of a pipe decreases the pressure will also decrease while the velocity increases. That means when you take a pump with 37PSI of pressure at a 1" diameter and a flow rate of 9539 l/h and reduce it down to a 1/4" diameter the water will leave the fitting at 5.8PSi and 74.88km/h.
@@LinusTechTips thank you!
This right here is a free tech quickie episode
The pressure losses in that loop must have been quite something. Ramming that amount of water trough all those fittings and channels :D Should have measured dP of the loop for giggles.
I think they genuinely had the answer prepared.
To think that my first video for linus tech tips was whole house liquid cooling. After the many years, this brings joy to my heart.
As someone who professionally works with high pressure fluids and their associated fittings regularly, this video made me oscillate from cringing to snorting with laughter in an unsettling but overall enjoyable way.
As someone who dosen't work with high pressure fluids and really only has basic physics knowledge, i bet that they lost a lot of that "flow" in turbulence. I would expect that you can't just push the water harder through the series of small tubes with complex geometry and expect it to not just dump all it's energy into the walls (and into itself). Also, shouldn't they have tried to pull the water throug the loop instead of pushing it?
@@raphaelambrosiuscosteau829 Most of the time you want to push liquids instead of pulling them. Pulling them lowers the pressure, which causes cavitation, which is bubbles of gas popping in and out of existence. Cavitation eats away at the tubes.
Though I wonder if at the speeds they are going at if they are already cavitating?
@@kylerichardson514 intuitively it feels for me that pulling would create more even flow through the loop instead of water coming out fast at the beginning and then dumping it all into the first couple of sharp turns it encounters. I do not know why it feels that way or if it's has any basis in reality though. Also, would've like to see flow meters at the start and at the end of the loop side by side to compare flow speeds.
As someone who professionally designed electrical control systems for industrial machinery and once witnessed what happens when a high pressure hose (50-60 bar, I think) blows off a fitting, I have a healthy fear/respect for high pressure fluids.
For the next cooling experiment, try cooling a PC with a liquid metal loop like an early nuclear reactor.
Liquid metals like Mercury and NaK (the preferred choice for cooling applications) can be circulated using a electromagnetic pump. The pump applies a current to the metal inside of a strong magnetic field, causing it to be repelled and move perpendicular to the magnetic field.
Sounds dangerous. They should do it.
I want to see a water cooled steam deck.
If only it was legal to buy mercury in the first place, specifically talking about Canada, not to mention the tens of thousands of dollars worth of safety equipment needed.
Nak = sodium+potassium
Sounds explosive
If they're completely suicidal then sure, use NaK, burn down the entire lab. Mercury sounds like a health and safety nightmare to deal with, especially if it leaks anywhere.
Pushing the bleeding edge of innovation
And gasket design 😂
5:56 Linus and Alex rating my non existent dancing skills...
Alex always makes the jankiest, most fun stuff on the channel
I was just about to say this
Crazy water cooling is simply the best!
I agree with the jank part, but most times it's so jank I can't even call it fun, all I can see is wasted potential if a little more thought and time were given to it
I always think that Alex&Linus combination videos are like the what-if XKCD articles in a video form. And I absolutely love it!
"Alex always makes the jankiest, most fun stuff on the channel" while being the calmest most restrained of them all.
Linus: "I think this might be the stupidest thing we've ever done."
Future Linus: "Hold my beer."
I can't wait to see how this ages
This channel really embodies the description of being the “Top Gear” of PC tech. Loving it 😂
"Tonight, Alex does some maths, Linus takes a bath, and we give the water cooling in our PC moar powah!"
I think you mean bottom gear.
v8 powered blender
More like jackass i think
Oh no…… anyway
One of the best videos you've made so far! This was a thrill to watch! Keep it up boys.
6:11 "these compressions are not the right size for this tubing!"
"Yea I was hoping it would just blow off when we turned the thing on"
"You booby trapped it?!"
Linus and Alex a perfect duo
I'm surprised no one caught me on my typo, I dont think Alex uses Linux
The companies housed around LTT must have so many "What the actual F are the doing now O.o" moments....
P.s. that pump looks like it could use some water cooling.
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Lol those we’re my exact thoughts when they were filming! But I didn’t see water flying all over the place so it must have been near the end
New LTT video; "Water Cooling our Water Cooler"
I used to work in the area around LMG and can attest that, yes, I have seen some... 'interesting' things happen.
The world: gas prices are the highest they've ever been in decades.
Linus: seems like a perfect opportunity to make a gas-powered PC!
It uses like 1 dollar worth of fuel u goob
@@YungEagle3k jokes are hard
I mean, if you're really going all in on "most expensive build", adding gasoline to the equation will def do it rn.
There’s a comment above mine but TH-cam doesn’t show it. Ugh.
@@BahhBahhBrownSheep Nothing good about censorship. Let me see what others think about this comment!
Man, watching this video feels like watching MythBusters again, I like the chaotic energy that it has and the suspense of something going wrong any second, I like it, It would be great if they make more videos like this
I lost it when Alex said "I think we can overclock the pump" 🤣🤣😂😂😂
what happend to myth busters did it get shut down? that show was so cool
@@Blaze_Gamez Don't remember the exact details but the show isn't running anymore, no.
In brief, at one point the show's ratings started waning, after which they initially cut Kari, Grant and Tory; then it became economically unfeasible to go on even with just Adam and Jamie. A reboot of sorts was attempted, but never went far. Adam now does TH-cam, while the others have undertook careers away from the limelight.
@@TheClol7 sad to see such things go
@@BeastOfSoda Grant Passed away and Tony has a group that does mythbusting automotive. Also Grant worked on the grogu before passing away.
I was just about to buy a gasoline pc upgrade, then you didn't recommend it as a daily driver. So glad I watched to the end!
Wait I thought it was a great idea for daily driving
Don't do it, I was only able to achieve a measly 259,200,000 fpg (frames per gallon)
Honey the neighbors want to have a water fight!
Sure , just let me get my 2.5hp gas pump ready
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Alex: 20 minutes of math why this is a terrible idea
Linus: SEND IT! *proceeds to blow out fittings 20 times*
Linus Tech Tips: "We're gonna watercool a computer in the dumbest way possible"
Also Linus Tech Tips: "Hold my beer"
Wait. Beer cooled PC
@@LoganRas a bad idea as ethanol boils at like 75ish degrees. So if it get hot enough 5% of the loop is gonna vaporise and ethonal is also very flammable. also beer is generally carbonated.
@@kylar616 So what you're saying is go for it.
@@kylar616 So what you're saying is go for it.
This reminds me of the Top Gear episode where they made a V8 powered blender and rocking chair. Maybe they can run a single water cool loop through multiple PCs using a gas powered pump.
Beef,bovril and brick smoothie,a true gamer's drink.
V8 powered whole room water cooling! first time i saw that segment i fell of my chair laughing
Man that ad placement was on point. 👏 Love it!
Engineering-wise, I would have recommended a bleed-off line with a valve between the pump’s inlet and outlet. Start it with the bypass open (theoretically 0 down the load line), the divert the flow to the load by closing down the bypass valve, preferably gradually, until you find the limits your load can take.
yeah some backpressure adjuster thing would have surely been interesting
+ an over-pressure valve to save your electronics. Though sometimes a bypass arrangement can be extremely sensitive to tiny amounts of change in the valve position.
YOLO!
I love how engineering worries about making a system better, despite the stupidness of it.
I've always wanted to find the limits of my load!
"We might be able to overclock our pump"
I guess everything in LTT is overclockable
OC Sebs melon nao plox!
I wonder if they can overclock Linus
now your making me wonder what would happen if we overclocked Linus... or did madrina already do that?
Sign at LMG sais: "Don't overclock the toilets please."
As an engineer, I applaud the use of the Bernouli equation (even though it wasn't used correctly). As the owner of a plumbing company though, I can only shake my head. As a computer nerd, I'm happy with this video. Next time, use larger diameter tubes, shorter runs, an electric motor for the pump... If your building uses chilled water for the A/C system, you totally need a permanent manifold to connect PC cooling loops to. Overall, a 7/10. As my daughter's kindergarten teacher would say: "Keep up the great work :)"
I could not have said it better my self. Seriously, its a great steeping stone for a real serious video series..
I would say that he could outright just use the tapwater for cooling, and it might just do as good a job as this clunky oil drinking monster setup. After all, the tap water in a porperly designed building tend to already have enough pressure and waterflow in it, while such tiny pipes in these computers really doesn't need too much cool water at too high a speed to handle it. And yeah, wasting water isn't good, but you could always recollect them for other general usages or even for water heaters so ...
@@escwan6329 You bring up a good point about needing to keep the water flowing, by having to dump the discharge instead of circulating it. While impractical, it's still a better idea than what was done in this video, and I would like to see it done.
Yeah, where is the head loss calcs? where is the NPHSA for the pump? where is the fluid velocity calcs? my guess there was crazy turbulence going on.
@@matthewesunderland definitely a missed opportunity to explain some commonly misunderstood fluid dynamics concepts. Their actual cooling results were interesting enough that I hope they explore this more in the future with a more practical high flow set up. I would love to see results from using many regular PC cooling pumps in series and/or parallel. Added reliability bonus too! Now I kinda want to try it for my own PC...
The amount of backflow that system is having to where it doesn't even flow is amazing
I want to see an actual attempt to use that engine to REALLY pump water over a custom loop. With huge tubes and flow rate.
Would be fun to make a high flow rate blocks and stuff.
With an electric pump, (240v - maybe something around 4hp) proper tubing and fitting, and ice water, that would be really fun to watch.
I've already said this, and it's a very risky thing to say. Imagine you are on an island, and there is another island over there. And you want to conquer it. And they are ruled by a leader.
"Oh but they are disciplined, and they obey their leader. It's impossible to defeat them." Ah, then we will impose democracy on them. Democratic propaganda! We will promote the most democratic way.
"Oh, but they have nationalism! They will sacrifice themselves to protect their land." Ah, we will spread globalist ideology. Remove all notions of nationalism and patriotism, promote these ideas as evil. Turn them against each other so they will hate their own country and race.
"Oh, but they also have incredible faith in God! They have such faith in God that they never abandon the front." Ah, then let's promote atheism and hedonism. Church time is over. From now on, only night clubs and pornography. They must be open about sex.
"Oh, but the youth are healthy and strong. They're in formidable shape. They are the way the Creator made them: in his image." Ok then, from now on McDonald's, Coca-Cola, drugs, alcohol, video games. Let them be fat, lazy, weak, domesticated, undisciplined. We must abolish military service.
"Ah... yeah but the other thing is that they are homogenous. They are a single people, a single race. There is no ethnic chaos." Ok, then in whatever way, we must send them boats with foreigners - whites, blacks, Asians, Muslims, Chinese.
"But they have a lot of babies! 6 or 7 babies on average! They're happy to have large families!" Ok, from now on abortion, the pill.
You have now defeated that island without firing a single bullet.
@@kcgunesq arctic sea water. They've done highLANder, now for northLANder
And a car radiator, for dat flow
Realistically the choke point will be the block, but still you get a massive surface area for cooling with those
@@mduckernz It would need to be a custom block, probably with just a flow optimized chamber over the cpu instead of the microfins in most current blocks. big 3/4 in npt ports on it lol
Since this is a kind-of open loop running at high velocity, I wonder if it might be more efficient to actually remove the radiator, etc.
@@GollumBetrayerOfHobbits just dump ice in the resevoir for uber temps
With such a massive reservoir they could even run it closed loop for quite some time before the water gets warmer. And if they optimize the water container to be made of metal and flat and with ridges kind of like a heater at home, then they would have a giant passive radiator
Or they could re-use their radiator from the boiler they found a few years ago. If they’re gonna overkill anyway, might be good to bring that out again
They did remove the radiator, because they are attaching to the loop via the external fittings where the radiator was attached under the desk in the sleeper PC build.
@@Joshimitsu91 Oh yeah, that’s right. I forgot that the radiator was mounted under the desk in that build. Good catch. I believe the pump and reservoir were internal and still connected to the loop.
Please more editor captions. I love it and it shows more character in the team as a whole. Love you, everyone at Linus
Surprising how the loop held up under the pumping force.
Having dealt with replacing the pump on the well in our garden, the pressure of a high-powered pump can be huge.
This reminds me, maybe he could get a well drilled in his garden and use a pump in there hooked up to water cooling without a radiator. Wouldn't be practice, but would certainly be fun.
Gotta love setting up the gas-powered engine in an EV-only parking spot :D
Lets face it, its all coal powered at the end of the day.
@@GhostsGraphics At least EV's have SOME energy coming from renewable/more ecologically friendly sources
@@Lolks yes but even sources you're referring to which I'm assuming are solar are still made with horribly detrimental environmental effects
@@GhostsGraphics Hopefully perovskites will change that considerably.
@@GhostsGraphics bold of you to assume solar. Besides, I never said they were 100% ecologically sound.
"I think we can over clock the pump!" haha Alex is golden, this is so much fun lol.
I like that the gas pump is right next to an “EV parking only” sign lol
"I think we can overclock the pump!!"
Linus: wait what
"it goes without saying we wouldn't recommend this as a daily driver"
*switches to electric*
Who could afford it anyway with the price of gas currently.
the ultimate story: "water cooling a water cooling pump thats currently water cooling a whole pc."
Inception !!!
Cool, now make it a V8.
Well someone forgot to change their account.
Whoa what
YES. Clarkson style!
@@petterikippo9863 how so?
LS swap your CPU pump lmao
Probably more effect from the 50gal trash can of water (giant thermal mass) rather than the extra flow rate. In any case, still pleasing to the eyes and ears!
Thanks guys, I never wanted to do this and now I dont need to.
Love these crazy engineering vids with Alex, and our boy Linus as well.
"we might be able to overclock our pump" is the most LTT thing I've ever heard in my life
Always be careful fiddling with the max RPM limiter on these simple engines, cause they will rev to the moon and back if you loosen it too much. I blew a head gasket on one doing 9k RPMs cause these are designed for such low RPM cases.
Pretty sure the engine/pump were only planned to be used for one show anyway so pushing it until something broke was what they were trying, and if it had been the engine, they'd be fine with that.
I've done governor deletes on a ton of motors, specifically the predators and they don't usually rev past 7k cause of valve float, the main thing that gives before anything else is flywheel, piston and rod mainly
9k? Okay guy 😂
Now I feel like we missed out on that opportunity.
It started to run out of fuel after only about ~500RPM, need to drill out the "injector" to go anywhere near fast enough to harm it -AC
If there's one thing I've learned from ICEwave in BattleBots, it's that sometimes internal combustion engines aren't worth the hassle.
Also congrats to the winning team this year, especially for defeating the overhyped _Hydra_ in the process. Shouldn't have even been given that playoff position ahead of _Mammoth._
Bronco was the better flipper bot. I'm sad that they retired. They were my favorite.
Whole building gas-powered water cooling setup when?
Yes
nothing could possibly go wrong
My favorite part about this is you just *know* there’s someone out there who’s going “hmmm that’s not such a bad idea…” 🤣
No but the end did make me wonder if that if you lived next to stream or other water source it would be worth pumping water directly from there for cooling...
yeah... me 😂😂😂
that person is me and we're all lucky I'm poor
I feel caught.
I have a fresh water well for my house that has a pump like that just powered by green pixies. Some hydraulic hoses and machined fittings. Infinite supply of cold water in the single digits.
It's encouragingto see that even after all this years on the platfrom you still get more creative. Good to see. Thanks
For a silent option try city water pressure, just a normal garden hose. Good cold water, steady supply, non recirculating
Alex's disappointment when bunta was brought out was palpable, i felt that in my soul.
Linus is slowly evolving into “Red Green” with his wild antics. You can hear it in his voice, the slow evolution is his change in pitch with his “voices”.
Just needs more duct tape
Oh, no. Red's shit-cainery is a whole order of magnitude off the scale from Linus's. We're talking Logarithmic scales of order.
If women don't find you handsome, at least they'll find you handy!
The intro is too iconic, it's basically a meme at this point i'm 100% sure that removing it is gonna hurt more than increasing watch time for like 8 seconds.
First time I've seen someone comment about this. I miss the intro when it's not there.
yeah i kinda miss it too
@Taistelu_pelto That's literally what memes are, this is why we enjoy them...
This was a fantastic watch, I know LTT is a big business with serious means but this informal silliness is just so refreshing! With fantastic production quality too!
"I was hoping the bearings would blow off..."
"You booby trapped it?!"
Masterpiece.
that isnt what was said
My favorite part was hearing the benchmark reports over the sound of the gasoline engine.
this is probably one of my favourite LTT videos so far. Its so chill and stupid but a great story
where we watching the same video? what part was chill?
The entire world: Converting fossil fuel powered cars to electric.
Linus: "MY PC BOUT TO CHUG GUZZOLINE LIKE A TRUCK ON A HOT TEXAS MORNING GOING UP A ROOF LET'S GOOOO"
"I think we can overclock the pump."
*gets out screwdriver*
The words of a true engineer. xD
Would love to see a channel/ series where Alex engineer-splains thing in detail. Like a deep dive into the math and physics behind some of these experiments.
Yeah, as someone in the pumping industry i too appreciate the physics and math behind it.
I'm sure more than a few other viewers are the same (though betting less than half would admit it).
Fluids 1 + LTT
that smoke from the pump was perfectly normal. new exhausts always burn off some stuff the first time they get run hard.
I would love to see a video where they go around and interview the peoole who work on the other buildings around them and get their opinions on what it is like working around this team
"We wouldn't recommend this as a daily drive"
Oh shoot, I was just about to order myself a new pump
I'm getting a total Steve Smith (Red Green) vibes from Linus around the 9:30-10:00 mark. Both classic Canadians, building impractical, gas powered "solutions" that I can't help but feel patriotic pride about as a fellow Canuck. Fantastic work from the whole LMG crew!
Mom: "are you running a lawn mower in your room?!"
Me: "no mom, im just gaming!"
Do beerbrewing glycol chiller next! Runs quiet, and can sit on the oposite side of the house.
10:05 Wait, SERIOUSLY?!?😱🤯💥🥶
You got a gas pump connected to a PC running at max power to get great thermals, and now you want to overclock the PUMP?!?!
Ok next, I want to see you try a electric automotive fuel pump. The brushless fuel pumps like the Holley units should be able to give you all the flow you desire! Plus you can control the pumps!
"I think this might have been the stupidest thing we've ever done" - Linus
Awesome video.. power fist to the rescue!! Man Lunis I remember you having your first child, they're getting SO big.. what a wonderful life, I hope you're cherishing all those moments.. thanks so much for the videos!
Me: worrying my AIO could leak someday
Meanwhile LTT: let's blast water with 80km/h through this system
I had that fear so i removed my aio went air lol
i saw the story for this yesterday and instantly knew it was gonna be a trip, reminds me of that old radiator-cooling video lol
I like how the more excited Linus gets, the louder and more Canadian he gets, eh?
And if the pump is getting hot, now you need to cool that. Thermodynamics and conservation of energy are a pest.
I think this is the first genuine _ey_ I've ever heard from a Canadian. I always thought it was a myth/joke
gotta hook up a cooler for the cpu cooler.
Love the Canadian moment at 9:32. "It's really going though EH!" 😂
This is the most chaotic LTT video in a while. Absolutely love it.
Brass would've been way cheaper than freaking hydraulic fittings lol. They would've held up fine to that little pump too
Well but they're set if they would ever want to do 200 bar water cooling loop
PVC, Poly, galvanized...anything would have been cheaper than those fittings.
Princess Auto didn’t have a 1” brass fitting the day I was there picking up stuff for the project. The 1” hydraulic fitting was $10, for reference.
LOL understandable gotta do what you gotta do
OMG ... What about pressure in blocks?! 🤯
It's possible to blow the gaskets on the pumps or build enough pressure to even rip the screws out of a metal block. However, I think the connection points between hose and hardware (as seen in the video) are the most likely failure points in the loop. They have a lathe, so they could fabricate connectors that would allow them to use the armored water lines used for residential sinks and toilets to give those connections more of a chance. In that case, I could see the acrylic water block for the GPU failing far sooner than the metal CPU block. But there still is the reservoir in the PC that would likely fail first.
Linus is legit the greatest boss you could ask for, he’s still a leader but he treats all his employees like long time friends
Truly. Ive worked for lots of assholes who just churn through employees with no regard.
This is why I love Alex and Linus. These are the greatest videos. I love seeing questionable computer choices.
I like how they glossed over Bernoullis equation, which is probably one of the easier equations in fluid dynamics
They didn't even factor everything properly (pressure head loss)
Navier Stokes goes BRRRRR
Linus Tech Gear seems to be interesting, can’t wait for the episode with Linus connecting a PC to a V8 Corvette engine cooling it
Alex: Let Overclock the Pump
Linus: NO
I love the ideas the LMG crew comes up with that are related to computers.
I love how the fan started spinning without it even being on
This was completely stupid and I loved every second of it, nicely done alex!
Good idea, thinking of the power draw of the RTX4xxx series .... but those gas prices *sniffs
I kinda did that back in the days (where PhenomII was new^^).
We used a pump from the central heating system and copper pipes. To cool two gaming pc's in a row. Both were fitted with customized water cooling on CPU and GPU.
Our container had 65L of distilled water with anti corrosion and anti bacteria additives in it.
A hell of a project and worked awesome. Not necessary to mention we also had a big radiator :D
1:40 Linus walking into work