Another device that commonly uses CR123 that you might not think about - portable AED machines. The Zoll AED Plus unit has *10* of these batteries in it.
Cool vid. I use a lot of CR123, I buy them at the local gun shops that sell Surefire lights, they seem to sell the batteries for the best prices to encourage people to buy the lights
Thanks. Great video. I've tried explaining this same thing so several people but you explain it better than I can. This is important information for those new to CR123 batteries.
These tips that are said in the video are all great and correct. One thing is that you shouldn't throw them in the trash, it is recommended to recycle them at a facility. They contain Lithium which is fairly value, this reflects in the cost. Read On For More Information! I work over at Batteries + Bulbs. (Formally Batteries Plus) These are all rounded up to nearest dollar. 1 - $8.00 - $8.00/Battery 2 - $15.00 - $7.50/Battery 6 - $19.00 (Only select stores) - $3.17/Battery 12 - $27.00 - $2.25/Battery The brands we carry are Rayovac (1 Pack,2 Pack, 6 Pack), Duracell (1 Pack, 2 Pack), and Streamlight (12 Pack). Yes, mixing both used and new batteries can be very dangerous, possibly fatal. Same as with mixing different brands. If you need to know anything battery specific feel free to message me!
Hi, Like the examples you have shown. They have helped me sort out in my mind what I need. Just a note, I have a memory problem so having the batteries laid out like this is very helpful.
John Olivarez That depends on how many triggers and how long you set the video to be. And the setting of the battery management. I have 3 cameras since 4 months. One camera needed new batteries recently. I have tried rechargeables, but I haven't found any good ones yet. The current one have lasted 3-4 days at most. You do know that the latest model has rechargeables? As well as sound and quicker response-time.
you are so right about everything having the possibility of danger when misused. hell, even q-tips say right on the box "do not insert in to ear canal"
When my girlfriend's step father passed, he left us his massive surefire torch collection and until then, I'd never even seen a CR123A battery. He had stocked up on SF brand batteries that, unfortunately, don't seem to hold up to what their shelf life is stated to be. I was getting far less than 30 minutes of use from both single and double cell torches when I finally decided to toss them all about 2 weeks ago. After seeing this video, I'm glad I did. I never knew he had such an expensive hobby and collection, though. It's nuts.
That maratac light that uses the AA is the most practical. In a pinch you can find an AA battery in a tv remote or out of a radio and the light works pretty good even on partially drained AA's. And you can use it as instant on by pressing the end with your thumb, without turning it. And it is plenty small. I love the shiny polished stainless too.
To quote another TH-cam user, "Dangerous Things Are Good." Know what you're doing before you do without knowing. Good general list of reminders for users, Jeff.
I have been using Surefire CR123 batteries in my Fenix PD30 for a long time now. No problems at all. Batteries last a long time with the type of EDC use I do so the cost is not really that bad. Just pick up a box of cells and use em up over time. They last a long time so no worries there.
hey jeff, the reason SF recommends their brand batteries is because they are overload protected ( an overload is what happened in your situation) they have a fusable link that melts when there is a dangerous situation occuring (overheat/overload situation). the cheapy Chinese batterys usually are not overload protected and thats why your light exploded * the more you knowwww* lol (also if you or anyone didnt know, if you have a SF light and you dont put SF batteries in it the warranty is VOID)
I remember on Man v Wilid, Bear Grylls talks about if your phone is dead you can use your litium battery from it to puncture it and when it gets exposed to the air it'll ignite and burn and he shows you and actually starts a fire that way. So also good to know.
Read up everything you can on rechargeable rcr123's and get a couple of good quality cells. Batteries will never be a problem again. I'm using an AW RCR123 in my 4sevens Quark 123 Tactical.
The SF's CR123 seem to be just a little bit longer than other brands CR123 so I think it's a good idea to check if they fit in the flashlight before you buy one.
@Zigosity an alkaline or NiMH battery might ooze out, they will not explode and or vent with flame and the gas is not nearly as poisonous if ingested, people have gone to the hospital having breathing issues after having one vent, its serious
I see your point Jeff, I personally like the more powerful batteries. But let's say you have 3 Flashlights and you need 3 different batteries - if you run out on one of the six options, 1 light is gone, and batteries can't be shared. What I like to see is that AA and AAA batteries get better and used more in devices, so the supplies can be shared. I'm even bothered by the fact that my Fenix E01 uses AAA and my Fenix LD10 uses AA batteries and that I cannot share in an emergency situation.
Crap man. In the beginning of the vid, I was like, "ha, what a pansy. Batteries scared him away." As you went further in, not I'M skeptical of my cr123 batteries! I recently bought some rechargeable on ebay and was wondering why I only got about half an hour out of my lights. NOW I KNOW! I ALMOST DIED MAN! YOU SAVED MY LIFE! THANKS!
Two other points about the CR123's: They are not weather sensitive. So when it's cold...it does not effect the life of the battery. They die when they run out of energy. Unlike typical batteries...they will not dim and fade then slowy die. CR123's use up all there energy and continue to give you max output until it's completely out of energy.
@xDEMONIZEDx there is far more energy in the CR123 lithiums than say a standard alkaline AA, the transfer of energy in multi cell lights when you mix one new batterey and one used will overheat them to the point of explosion, somethgin that WONT happen in alkalines
You forgot to mention that cr123 shelf life is 10 years and pwns alkaline shelf life. I have used "Tenergy" brand from amazon.com cr123 batteries in conjunction with dealextreme's various single celled flashlight models with no issues. Came in handy when trick or treating last year, the throw on these lights are insane it was like a mini sunrise in my hand.
for cr123 flashlights, its good to have rechargeable batteries. I bought a box of 12 surefire cr123 batteries for emergencies but i use the rechargeable batteries for everyday use
@airsoftgunsandknives I never had intentions of owning a sage , but was offered one in trade I coudlnt resist because of the trade off, you asked about the light before I owned one
Yes, without a doubt, CR123 are great high performance batteries, but they just can't compete with AA's when it comes to practicality. I learned it the hard way.. If you forget to take backup batteries with ya when traveling, or you simply run out of 'em, boy, you are screwed. AA's are everywhere, every kiosk, smallest countryside store, every god-forgotten place has 'em.. you just can't beat that. SFMBE. Eddy.
@RYDERkN and affordable compared to similar output lights from surefire but surefire cant compete with fenix/ 4 sevens because surefure is an american company, prices reflect that...but yes fenix TK40 630 lumens for 1 hour on 8 AA's...just remember with lights you cant have all three...you usaly get 2 out of three, the three are size, brightness and run time...the TK40 takes 8 batteries and is huge....and has a short run time on high
@xDEMONIZEDx True, I have 2400mAh 11.1V lithiums for RC planes and when those go wrong you better hava fire extinguisher. Its not the safety factor I have a problem with its just that they aren't readily available.
The venting is actually a safer explosion than the potential these things have. Stick to aa and aaa they are easy to find and every one knows what they are. Lithiums are also expensive and hazardous but the benefits far outweigh the cons. To each his own.
I just found my 3 brand new a123 batteries from 2010 in a storage bag I had put away, I put them on a charger and they charged up quick. The only problem is I need a flashlight that is compatible
I prefer the simplicity, availability, and prevalence of AAA and AA batteries, which is what I use and store. Virtually everything else in my house, including flashlights, radios, remote controls, etc... take either AAA or AA batteries. As a result, it makes less sense for me to bring in a third kind of battery, particularly one that is quite that hazardous. The benefits they bring simply aren't great enough to justify the complexity and possibility of danger inherent in their use & storage.
My store sells the Surefire and Streamlight branded CR123 batteries for $1.99 a piece or $21 for a dozen. Sounds kinda pricey but that's literally the cheapest price you can find them around me for about 100 miles.
@BuffaloWarrior7 A lithium 9volt has more potential than a lithium CR123. 9v at 1200mAh vs 3v at 900mAh the 9volt has more power potential. Anything with acidic chemistry is going to be potentially dangerous. If you drop your flashlight with normal Alkalines in it the conductors could potentially touch if the battery suffers any sort of trauma. Your battery could rupture in this situation and spill out battery acid which is dangerous.
Hey Jeff you should try AW's IMR16340 cells in the lights that'll handle 8.4V, it's Lithium Manganese chemistry which is a rechargeable lithium ion, but it has zero chance of explosion/venting in flames, it also can provide upto a 8C constant discharge, eg 1 16340 size LiMn cell can provide upto 4A of current, that's enough to power a SST-50 at full power and a XM-L at full power, the downside is the low capacity which is 550mAh.
other downside to cr123s is the fact that in a SHTF situation not nearly as many of these around as other types of batteries...and in a SHTF situation mixing batteries some new some old is almost a foregone conclusion if the situation last any length of time so again not good on another not walmart and other stores also sell these in auto and sporting department and believe it or not price can be as much as 2 dollars different for same batteries of the same brand just cas way they are shipped
Lights that take 3 batteries are a pain in the ass as you buy them in packs of even numbers. Everything I'm using now are 18650 lights but I just bought 12 sf123a for my dual fuel lights for work as it will be -30°C and lower soon. 12 surefire for $40 CAD online vs 2 Duracell at Wal-Mart for $25 CAD, no brainer there!
I must admit, Imma CR123 fan. They blow away all other batteries. I may have missed this in the vid, but they also have an excellent shelf life - about 10 years. I think they'd be great to put into a storm shelter for that reason alone. Also, maybe it's cause I've already done my homework, but a lot of this information seemed quite obvious. But I suppose for a complete noob it's good info to know.
i have a 4sevens 123^2 tactical r5 edition and it takes 2 cr123's i use energizer litiums. usually buy 2 pack at store for $10. i am going to buy a bunch in bulk from batteryjunction because $5 each battery is too much.
man ive been using cr123 in my surefire light for 4 years with no problems at all and the batteries are not expensive. i buy surefire brand batteries at lowes. pack of 2 for $4.50
I think I'll stick to flashlights that use batteries that are cheap and widely available. The only benefit to using CR123 batteries is extra power. I'd rather have a lower power flashlight that I can find batteries for in an emergency than one that won't work at all because nobody has the batteries for it. It's just more convenient to know you can pick up batteries anywhere.
I think you may have missed my point entirely in my previous comment regarding the reasoning for your battery mishap. When you buy crappy low-end batteries, you risk the chance of the voltage being different. If you buy energizer they will nearly always be 3v exactly. Your cheap batteries may have been measuring two entirely different voltages. If you use Lithiums in any flashlight then you take the same risks as you would with a CR123.
Why don't the CR123a batteries I got from work fit my gunlight and small maglight style pocket light I have? They seem to wide. They don't fit in the tube. Don't the CR123's and the CR123a's have the same diameter and length?
There is more energy in a Lithium CR123 as compared to an Alkaline AA or AAA. I use lithium batteries in everything. You have to look at chemistry. You can deffinately find Alkaline CR123s just like you can find Alkaline AA or AAA batteries. You can't compare across chemistries, it just doesn't work that way. You can't just look at volts either, mAh is a big part of it. MAh stands for miliamp hours. If you have a 5v battery with 500 mAh it will run at 5v for 500 hours.
Oh thats great. my laser use's the cr123 battery and about 3 or more times it has smoked up on me. Bad thing is i was kinda breathing it... ill try to fully rechargeing it and trying it agien
Kind of late and don't see a reply but yes as he stated the same holds true for laptop and cellphone batteries. Anything lithium based. Lithium-ion or lithium polymer, including the AAA lithiums.
Thank your for posting this video. I really appreciate your effort to warn us. Thank you for being so PATIENT. You Rock Dude! Thanks for ALL the GREAT posting you put up on the internet!!!
ion lithiumis the most efficient battery out there. That has my vote,though we're still not using them for more practical industrial uses i.e. cars,machines,etc.
Lithium batteries have a 10 year shelf life, alkalines can't compete with that. Nice to know that even if you haven't used the flashlight in years, you can rely on the lithium battery still having juice.
the only time id buy a cr123 light is if i buy rechargable cr123's if you are looking for good deals on batteries check out battery junction they sell all types of batteries and lights at good prices.
A lithium CR123 uses the same chemical make up as any other lithium battery and an Alkaline CR123 uses the same general chemical make up as any other lithium battery. Chances are, you purchesed cheap chinese-made batteries that weren't emitting 3 volts each, they were probably higher and you overloaded your flashlight and popped the LED and whatever else. The same thing could happen if you use any cheap batteries.
i like your how you try and explain stuff, the aaa and the aa are the same battery just different shape ie but they are both 1.5v,, but the cr123a is a different shape but they are 3v twice the voltage, so for every cr123a you have it,s 2 x aaa or aa i wish cr123 would becmome more popular
I always carry two flashlights, and both use the 123 batteries. The ones I avoid are AAA's since getting them in lithium is nearly impossible and very expensive.
uhmmmm just so you know you put the CR123that was out ( not sure if you used it or not )into the box just in case since you were talking about how it not good to mix
@guns4good Your comment is NOT true. The civilian market is completely different than the Military/Government market. The military/government doesn't go to Surefire's website, add 10,000 flashlights to their shopping cart to purchase them. They'll contact the company with what they want(whether it's something that exists or something that needs to be engineered) then they'll buy in bulk for a cheaper price than what we civilians pay for. BTW, Panasonic's 123's are much better and cheaper online
I only have one flashlight that came with my Victorinox SAK, its a really nice little flashlight, runs off of two AAA batteries and it brighter than the 20-30 dollar lights my parents buy xD
What do you think about rechargeable cr123's in flashlights and if you like or dislike them what brand would you buy or what is a good brand I'm new to cr123's so i would like to know what you think. Thanks do much
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Another device that commonly uses CR123 that you might not think about - portable AED machines. The Zoll AED Plus unit has *10* of these batteries in it.
Cool vid.
I use a lot of CR123, I buy them at the local gun shops that sell Surefire lights, they seem to sell the batteries for the best prices to encourage people to buy the lights
That warning really makes a good case for getting Countycomms battery holder.
Thanks. Great video. I've tried explaining this same thing so several people but you explain it better than I can. This is important information for those new to CR123 batteries.
I really liked the amount of information that was performed in the video
Keep going that way.
"I don't like CR123 batteries!"
Has an entire box of CR123 batteries.
I'm just getting into this topic and can't thank you enough for how informative this great primer has been. Thanks man.
These tips that are said in the video are all great and correct. One thing is that you shouldn't throw them in the trash, it is recommended to recycle them at a facility. They contain Lithium which is fairly value, this reflects in the cost.
Read On For More Information!
I work over at Batteries + Bulbs. (Formally Batteries Plus) These are all rounded up to nearest dollar.
1 - $8.00 - $8.00/Battery
2 - $15.00 - $7.50/Battery
6 - $19.00 (Only select stores) - $3.17/Battery
12 - $27.00 - $2.25/Battery
The brands we carry are Rayovac (1 Pack,2 Pack, 6 Pack), Duracell (1 Pack, 2 Pack), and Streamlight (12 Pack).
Yes, mixing both used and new batteries can be very dangerous, possibly fatal.
Same as with mixing different brands.
If you need to know anything battery specific feel free to message me!
Hi,
Like the examples you have shown. They have helped me sort out in my mind what I need. Just a note, I have a memory problem so having the batteries laid out like this is very helpful.
This video should be viewed by most people. The Arlo surveillance system use these type of batteries.
TheRobertSt I just got Arlo. what is the average battery life per camera? Do you know?
John Olivarez That depends on how many triggers and how long you set the video to be. And the setting of the battery management. I have 3 cameras since 4 months. One camera needed new batteries recently. I have tried rechargeables, but I haven't found any good ones yet. The current one have lasted 3-4 days at most. You do know that the latest model has rechargeables? As well as sound and quicker response-time.
you are so right about everything having the possibility of danger when misused. hell, even q-tips say right on the box "do not insert in to ear canal"
When my girlfriend's step father passed, he left us his massive surefire torch collection and until then, I'd never even seen a CR123A battery. He had stocked up on SF brand batteries that, unfortunately, don't seem to hold up to what their shelf life is stated to be. I was getting far less than 30 minutes of use from both single and double cell torches when I finally decided to toss them all about 2 weeks ago. After seeing this video, I'm glad I did. I never knew he had such an expensive hobby and collection, though. It's nuts.
Why call flashlight a torch?
@@slickbackgoonbythesaltylag30 If you can't answer that question through the process of thinking, you've got far bigger concerns, mate.
That maratac light that uses the AA is the most practical. In a pinch you can find an AA battery in a tv remote or out of a radio and the light works pretty good even on partially drained AA's. And you can use it as instant on by pressing the end with your thumb, without turning it. And it is plenty small. I love the shiny polished stainless too.
i love my four sevens quark 123^2 tactical. the dual mode program is nice, i didnt like scrambling through the modes to get to where i wanted
To quote another TH-cam user, "Dangerous Things Are Good." Know what you're doing before you do without knowing.
Good general list of reminders for users, Jeff.
I have been using Surefire CR123 batteries in my Fenix PD30 for a long time now. No problems at all. Batteries last a long time with the type of EDC use I do so the cost is not really that bad. Just pick up a box of cells and use em up over time. They last a long time so no worries there.
Men I thought the same as you, and now re considering buying a CR123 flashlight for the same reasons that you mentioned
hey jeff, the reason SF recommends their brand batteries is because they are overload protected ( an overload is what happened in your situation) they have a fusable link that melts when there is a dangerous situation occuring (overheat/overload situation). the cheapy Chinese batterys usually are not overload protected and thats why your light exploded * the more you knowwww* lol (also if you or anyone didnt know, if you have a SF light and you dont put SF batteries in it the warranty is VOID)
Jeff, these 'problems' with CR123As apply to ALL batteries. Any kind of battery could do this. It's intrinsic to the design of a battery.
I remember on Man v Wilid, Bear Grylls talks about if your phone is dead you can use your litium battery from it to puncture it and when it gets exposed to the air it'll ignite and burn and he shows you and actually starts a fire that way. So also good to know.
Read up everything you can on rechargeable rcr123's and get a couple of good quality cells. Batteries will never be a problem again. I'm using an AW RCR123 in my 4sevens Quark 123 Tactical.
@Nreckless all the batteries in the box have no been used including the one I use for the demo
The SF's CR123 seem to be just a little bit longer than other brands CR123 so I think it's a good idea to check if they fit in the flashlight before you buy one.
@Zigosity an alkaline or NiMH battery might ooze out, they will not explode and or vent with flame and the gas is not nearly as poisonous if ingested, people have gone to the hospital having breathing issues after having one vent, its serious
However, the USB rechargable Surefire keychain light he had ended up on my keyring and that thing is BRIGHT!! Holds a charge for months as well!
I see your point Jeff, I personally like the more powerful batteries. But let's say you have 3 Flashlights and you need 3 different batteries - if you run out on one of the six options, 1 light is gone, and batteries can't be shared. What I like to see is that AA and AAA batteries get better and used more in devices, so the supplies can be shared. I'm even bothered by the fact that my Fenix E01 uses AAA and my Fenix LD10 uses AA batteries and that I cannot share in an emergency situation.
Crap man. In the beginning of the vid, I was like, "ha, what a pansy. Batteries scared him away." As you went further in, not I'M skeptical of my cr123 batteries! I recently bought some rechargeable on ebay and was wondering why I only got about half an hour out of my lights. NOW I KNOW! I ALMOST DIED MAN! YOU SAVED MY LIFE! THANKS!
Two other points about the CR123's:
They are not weather sensitive. So when it's cold...it does not effect the life of the battery.
They die when they run out of energy. Unlike typical batteries...they will not dim and fade then slowy die. CR123's use up all there energy and continue to give you max output until it's completely out of energy.
@simonsky8 great option, but if you need say 1000 lumens AAs wont cut it, haha unless your talking a half dizen or more and rechargable in a M@gmod
@xDEMONIZEDx there is far more energy in the CR123 lithiums than say a standard alkaline AA, the transfer of energy in multi cell lights when you mix one new batterey and one used will overheat them to the point of explosion, somethgin that WONT happen in alkalines
You forgot to mention that cr123 shelf life is 10 years and pwns alkaline shelf life. I have used "Tenergy" brand from amazon.com cr123 batteries in conjunction with dealextreme's various single celled flashlight models with no issues. Came in handy when trick or treating last year, the throw on these lights are insane it was like a mini sunrise in my hand.
@gsxer13 you cna buy and use rechargable CR123's
for cr123 flashlights, its good to have rechargeable batteries. I bought a box of 12 surefire cr123 batteries for emergencies but i use the rechargeable batteries for everyday use
@airsoftgunsandknives I never had intentions of owning a sage , but was offered one in trade I coudlnt resist because of the trade off, you asked about the light before I owned one
@TechCuber once you create a circuit they transfer energy sop both cells ahve equal amounts at all times and they drain evenaly
Yes, without a doubt, CR123 are great high performance batteries, but they just can't compete with AA's when it comes to practicality. I learned it the hard way.. If you forget to take backup batteries with ya when traveling, or you simply run out of 'em, boy, you are screwed. AA's are everywhere, every kiosk, smallest countryside store, every god-forgotten place has 'em.. you just can't beat that.
SFMBE.
Eddy.
man jeff your right that copper maratac light looks nice like that. i didnt think it would lok nice but damn!
@RYDERkN and affordable compared to similar output lights from surefire but surefire cant compete with fenix/ 4 sevens because surefure is an american company, prices reflect that...but yes fenix TK40 630 lumens for 1 hour on 8 AA's...just remember with lights you cant have all three...you usaly get 2 out of three, the three are size, brightness and run time...the TK40 takes 8 batteries and is huge....and has a short run time on high
The video leaves little to question. Very informative. Philosophy as well. Not limiting yourself. Rechargeable to follow?
@xDEMONIZEDx True, I have 2400mAh 11.1V lithiums for RC planes and when those go wrong you better hava fire extinguisher. Its not the safety factor I have a problem with its just that they aren't readily available.
The venting is actually a safer explosion than the potential these things have.
Stick to aa and aaa they are easy to find and every one knows what they are.
Lithiums are also expensive and hazardous but the benefits far outweigh the cons.
To each his own.
@guns4good surefire or any US company cant compete with other companies around the world either as our costs are much higher
Jeff, you're not best off buying online in bulk, you're best off buying rechargeable batteries. Cheaper and greener!
@blackroses4her I had thought I specifically said surefire offerings, obviously other companies offer them in AA and AAA as I own them
I just found my 3 brand new a123 batteries from 2010 in a storage bag I had put away, I put them on a charger and they charged up quick. The only problem is I need a flashlight that is compatible
I prefer the simplicity, availability, and prevalence of AAA and AA batteries, which is what I use and store. Virtually everything else in my house, including flashlights, radios, remote controls, etc... take either AAA or AA batteries. As a result, it makes less sense for me to bring in a third kind of battery, particularly one that is quite that hazardous. The benefits they bring simply aren't great enough to justify the complexity and possibility of danger inherent in their use & storage.
@videokid001 been working great in my maratac lights and remote controls
My store sells the Surefire and Streamlight branded CR123 batteries for $1.99 a piece or $21 for a dozen. Sounds kinda pricey but that's literally the cheapest price you can find them around me for about 100 miles.
My Surefire x400 uses cr123 and I love it. It goes well on my Colt Rail Gun.
@BuffaloWarrior7 A lithium 9volt has more potential than a lithium CR123. 9v at 1200mAh vs 3v at 900mAh the 9volt has more power potential. Anything with acidic chemistry is going to be potentially dangerous. If you drop your flashlight with normal Alkalines in it the conductors could potentially touch if the battery suffers any sort of trauma. Your battery could rupture in this situation and spill out battery acid which is dangerous.
Hey Jeff you should try AW's IMR16340 cells in the lights that'll handle 8.4V, it's Lithium Manganese chemistry which is a rechargeable lithium ion, but it has zero chance of explosion/venting in flames, it also can provide upto a 8C constant discharge, eg 1 16340 size LiMn cell can provide upto 4A of current, that's enough to power a SST-50 at full power and a XM-L at full power, the downside is the low capacity which is 550mAh.
other downside to cr123s is the fact that in a SHTF situation not nearly as many of these around as other types of batteries...and in a SHTF situation mixing batteries some new some old is almost a foregone conclusion if the situation last any length of time so again not good on another not walmart and other stores also sell these in auto and sporting department and believe it or not price can be as much as 2 dollars different for same batteries of the same brand just cas way they are shipped
4-Sevens Quark MiNi CR123A Flashlight (FSQMini-123)
LED: CREE XP-G R5
Max Output: 189 lumens
Material: Type III hard anodized aircraft-grade aluminum
Lens: Optical grade glass lens with anti-reflective coating
Water resistance: IPX-8
Batteries: 1x lithium 3v CR123A
Battery Life: Low - 150 hours; Medium - 8 hours; High - 1.2 hours; Strobe - 2.4 hours; SOS - 7.2 hours; Hi Beacon - 12 hours; Lo Beacon - 60 hours
Dimensions: 2.3" x 0.8"
Weight: 0.62oz without batteries
Lights that take 3 batteries are a pain in the ass as you buy them in packs of even numbers. Everything I'm using now are 18650 lights but I just bought 12 sf123a for my dual fuel lights for work as it will be -30°C and lower soon. 12 surefire for $40 CAD online vs 2 Duracell at Wal-Mart for $25 CAD, no brainer there!
The video leaves little to question. Very informative. Philosophy as well.
i have the xml edition of the mini 123 too. bought part of the first run. loving it, great light.
I must admit, Imma CR123 fan. They blow away all other batteries. I may have missed this in the vid, but they also have an excellent shelf life - about 10 years. I think they'd be great to put into a storm shelter for that reason alone.
Also, maybe it's cause I've already done my homework, but a lot of this information seemed quite obvious. But I suppose for a complete noob it's good info to know.
i have a 4sevens 123^2 tactical r5 edition and it takes 2 cr123's
i use energizer litiums. usually buy 2 pack at store for $10. i am going to buy a bunch in bulk from batteryjunction because $5 each battery is too much.
man ive been using cr123 in my surefire light for 4 years with no problems at all and the batteries are not expensive. i buy surefire brand batteries at lowes. pack of 2 for $4.50
I think I'll stick to flashlights that use batteries that are cheap and widely available. The only benefit to using CR123 batteries is extra power. I'd rather have a lower power flashlight that I can find batteries for in an emergency than one that won't work at all because nobody has the batteries for it. It's just more convenient to know you can pick up batteries anywhere.
@MrHickstopher $23.88 for a dozen or just $1.99 each from goinggear where I got a bunch of lights Ill be showing soon
cool thanks. did not know about that. I know I have always seen the same warnings on regular battery like AA and what not.
@jedininjapirate713 cheap isnt always good, please watch the video again
do cr 123's contain the cr1/3n batteries inside
I think you may have missed my point entirely in my previous comment regarding the reasoning for your battery mishap. When you buy crappy low-end batteries, you risk the chance of the voltage being different. If you buy energizer they will nearly always be 3v exactly. Your cheap batteries may have been measuring two entirely different voltages. If you use Lithiums in any flashlight then you take the same risks as you would with a CR123.
Why don't the CR123a batteries I got from work fit my gunlight and small maglight style pocket light I have? They seem to wide. They don't fit in the tube. Don't the CR123's and the CR123a's have the same diameter and length?
There is more energy in a Lithium CR123 as compared to an Alkaline AA or AAA. I use lithium batteries in everything. You have to look at chemistry. You can deffinately find Alkaline CR123s just like you can find Alkaline AA or AAA batteries. You can't compare across chemistries, it just doesn't work that way. You can't just look at volts either, mAh is a big part of it. MAh stands for miliamp hours. If you have a 5v battery with 500 mAh it will run at 5v for 500 hours.
Oh thats great. my laser use's the cr123 battery and about 3 or more times it has smoked up on me. Bad thing is i was kinda breathing it... ill try to fully rechargeing it and trying it agien
Kind of late and don't see a reply but yes as he stated the same holds true for laptop and cellphone batteries. Anything lithium based. Lithium-ion or lithium polymer, including the AAA lithiums.
@RYDERkN my Quick, research shows 1 hour on turbo, but I may be wrong or at least my sources
Thank your for posting this video. I really appreciate your effort to warn us. Thank you for being so PATIENT.
You Rock Dude! Thanks for ALL the GREAT posting you put up on the internet!!!
FYI, Eagletac makes good CR123 batteries for very reasonable prices.
ion lithiumis the most efficient battery out there. That has my vote,though we're still not using them for more practical industrial uses i.e. cars,machines,etc.
Fenix shrink wraps theirs together to prevent that mistake.
Dang, seems like you need to be in a whole Hazmat suit! lol
Great information! Didn't know some of the information you covered. Three rules were good to go! Thank you.
Lithium batteries have a 10 year shelf life, alkalines can't compete with that. Nice to know that even if you haven't used the flashlight in years, you can rely on the lithium battery still having juice.
surefire cr123's are just re-branded panasonic batteries once they stick the surefire cover on the become more expensive so i buy those
@brownbear696969 most newer vids are not showing up, dont know whats up with that but it sucks, lol
the only time id buy a cr123 light is if i buy rechargable cr123's if you are looking for good deals on batteries check out battery junction they sell all types of batteries and lights at good prices.
Its a good thing that happend to you so you can share will your thousands of viewers
A lithium CR123 uses the same chemical make up as any other lithium battery and an Alkaline CR123 uses the same general chemical make up as any other lithium battery. Chances are, you purchesed cheap chinese-made batteries that weren't emitting 3 volts each, they were probably higher and you overloaded your flashlight and popped the LED and whatever else. The same thing could happen if you use any cheap batteries.
@MsTechDude lol....uhhh yes, been using flashlights for years, like nice flashlights not dollar store lights
Can you use a semi used CR123 cell in the quark mini, as it only uses one?
i like your how you try and explain stuff, the aaa and the aa are the same battery just different shape ie but they are both 1.5v,, but the cr123a is a different shape but they are 3v twice the voltage, so for every cr123a you have it,s 2 x aaa or aa i wish cr123 would becmome more popular
I always carry two flashlights, and both use the 123 batteries. The ones I avoid are AAA's since getting them in lithium is nearly impossible and very expensive.
@RuthlessZabusa Well in that case it was a simple misunderstanding. Sorry for any confusion.
uhmmmm just so you know you put the CR123that was out ( not sure if you used it or not )into the box just in case since you were talking about how it not good to mix
This was from 2011, now most of Chinese made flashlights are with 18650, 26650 and 21700.
Thank you for the video. 👍🏽
I'm thinking about buying the E1B and would really like to see your review/ opinions on it before I spend my hard earned money. looking forward to it!
Hmm... what if you use just a single CR123? Will the battery still be subject to the same energy transfer?
REI sells a 12 pack for approx $2.40 each - $30 if you need something quick.
@guns4good Your comment is NOT true. The civilian market is completely different than the Military/Government market. The military/government doesn't go to Surefire's website, add 10,000 flashlights to their shopping cart to purchase them. They'll contact the company with what they want(whether it's something that exists or something that needs to be engineered) then they'll buy in bulk for a cheaper price than what we civilians pay for. BTW, Panasonic's 123's are much better and cheaper online
I only have one flashlight that came with my Victorinox SAK, its a really nice little flashlight, runs off of two AAA batteries and it brighter than the 20-30 dollar lights my parents buy xD
What do you think about rechargeable cr123's in flashlights and if you like or dislike them what brand would you buy or what is a good brand
I'm new to cr123's so i would like to know what you think. Thanks do much
what are the best brand of CR123 batterys? im looking for longest lasting and lightest
@brownbear696969 They don't show up until the video is completely processed, if they aren't completely processed, they won't show up IN you sub box but they will be on the channel
hey i have a question, iv'e recharged my CR123s and its only gotten warn at most
but i'm hearing that you can't. how does it work so well for me
Thank you for the video. Solution= get a volt meter.