If I wanted to get the latest and greatest WiFi 7, would I be able to connect the U7 Pro directly to my Mikrotik CRS305? I don't have any other fancy Ubiquiti switches or any PoE switches. How would I power the U7 Pro - isn't it PoE only?
why dont you like the U6-LR...Ive recently installed 2 and they are doing a great job...no issues at all...but I am new to Unifi (running via a Unifi POE Switch and a UDM SE)
@@digiblurDIY will bare that in line down the line but with a total of 300 devices in my home at the moment (about 160 on WiFi) it’s all pretty solid right now …. Touch wood
I have two U6LR and they work fine. The U7 Pro Max, not sure if I like that it gets hot and spinning up a Fan. Would love to try it, but for that it's a little bit expensive;-)
8:17 Have you tested multiple devices doing speedtest at the SAME time? I have U6 that's abysmal when I do 2> devices speedtest at the same time. It doesn't add up at all. Example: 900mbps when doing 1 device speed test 300+300mbps on 2 devices speedtest , that's a total of 600mbps 200+200+200mbps on 3 device speedtest, that's 600mbps. Unifi is bad at this.
I don't have two 320s to test but I did do this with 2 160mhz devices but don't remember the exact results. Let me check again. I suspect it won't be that great due to 2x2 only.
@@digiblurDIY Please do, my old tplink router can do 3 devices with a sum of 900mbps no problem. But not U6. Hope new tech fixes this. Especially MLO update in a few months.
Mediatek based and I switched to all Qualcomm based ones since I had some connectivity issues like others have experienced with some devices. Probably $90? That's half of a new one
Hi. I am little concerned about the 6LR. I would like to buy a package of them and thought because they are LR that should be perfekt. It's a big building but not many users. What would you recommend. Right know there are 5 AC Pro from some years ago and the WIFI signal in some rooms is bad.
@@digiblurDIYSaw mostly positive feedback on the U6 and U6E in walls so I hope so. It is ideal as my home already has rj45 jacks and runs in convenient locations. They also act as switches with a few extra ports which would be prefect in my office area.
Would you recommend the U7 over the U6 Enterprise? Edit: Never mind, you basically say get the U7 at the end, haha. I was looking into the U6 Ent for the 4x4 MIMO 6E, but then the U7 was announced but it lacks that. I don't feel like waiting for a U7 Ent though, meh.
The price kind of kills the U6-Ent for most. Now if you do have a big setting with lots of 5ghz and 6ghz devices, you might need to go with that 4x4 advantage there but you are still limited to 2.5gbe there so it is a toss up. Both are Qualcomm chipsets luckily.
@@digiblurDIY Yeahhhh, I might still get the U6 Ent since it's available. I'm bummed to be spending that much, but I held off getting it for so long 😅
The u6 enterprise is more expensive, so why get it ? one thing I will say about the u6 enterprise tho. It is a solid performer. Stable. Can handle many clients like a champion.
Should probably pop over to servethehome and checkout their review of cheap unmanaged 2.5Gbit switches.. They are already here and cheap. TP-Link TL-SH1832 is fairly affordable if you want a name brand
Odd thing when I tried that was the other side refused to connect. I guess I should have enabled it for parallel too but it was just default. I was able to get the full 2.4 gig out of it though
@@digiblurDIY It's ok. I think newer models might give me better coverage. I got those really cheap from ebay. I will check if new generation of unifi drops prices on some UAP AC-HD or such
I can feel the hate on mediatek.Not really a unifi related but other wifi ap/router uses the MT7603 chipset is just bad if you use opensource driver like mt76 driver from openwrt, there are these issues that is still present and never been fixed ever since it was reported back in 2018, issues like ssid goes away, terrible speeds and kernel crash. Those issues never been fixed even to this day and the only solution for all of these is use the close source MTK drivers. THough I woudlnt call qualcom chipset good either since majority of their chipset are closed source, qualcom atheros used to be the darling of the openwrt project back then but they were closely transforming to be like broadcom. Despite all of that, mediatek is still a decent chipset, its just that the Mt76xx is a disaster but the MT79xx is better now at least.
Yup. I have seen so many people with wifi issues and every single time they happen to be using Mediatek based UniFi equipment. Several of them switched with Qualcomm based ones and say a night and day difference. I don't think UniFi firmware is open source anyways.
If you're buying an AP anyway then $20 more to be get the most "future proof" version hardware available is a no brainer. If you're considering upgrading I think that this conversation is a little bit more difficult but still favors the U7 Pro. It has MANY advantages over anything WiFi6 and lots of these will be unlocked on future firmware updates. As for this statement: "Most homes need 2 or 3 of these APs" uhmm.... No. Start with one placed centrally and on a ceiling. Test. If you NEED another AP, go from there. This idea that most residential environments (aka homes) "need" 2 or 3 APs is spawned largely from crappy mesh systems that are trash to begin. One of these U7 Pro APs will run circles around any off-the-shelf mesh system on the market.
@@digiblurDIY which would be problematic if it were the only form of connectivity on the access point. It's not. The U7 Pro includes all of the bands that the U6 does and just adds in the 6GHz on top of the existing 2.4GHz and 5GHz options. Few clients will even be capable of the 6GHz band in most environments for several years, especially on the residential side. This is getting off of the point of my post which was that a ubiquiti unifi AP will cover most modern homes adequately with proper placement. The WiFi6 v WiFi7 debate isn't necessary for that fact.
Yep. Doesn't make sense to of separate ones. It is great to toss in 2 or 3 in a house. Then turn 2.4ghz to medium or low power as most 2.4ghz IoT devices have craptastic PCB antennas and can't transmit worth crap compared to the AP that can yell like a beast. Set them to 20mhz on 1, 6 and 11 and it works great. Done a few installs like this and it works great. There are many phones and even some TVs and streaming devices coming with 6ghz.
@@digiblurDIY I've found that in a typical residential install a single AP will cover the entirety of the properly (including garage & outside) while still allowing you to turn down the broadcast strength in many cases. This is in a typical single family dwelling that isn't a high density environment like an apt complex. In those instances additional APs aren't going to help anyway because it's not an issue of coverage. You said "It's great to toss in 2 or 3 in a house" in your last reply and to that I say only if you're being paid hourly and your goal is to make more money while not necessarily doing what's best for the client. I like to do what's best for the client and I'm not try to pad profits by installing hardware that they won't ever see a functional benefit from. I'm not saying you are but making such blanket statements in your videos might lead some (including potential clients who find your channel) to believe these are your motives. To this end, my own personal residence has but one single U7 Pro and runs flawlessly with solid connectivity and perfectly adequate bandwidth to the very edge of our property. For my own money, I see no performance gains to be had from additional APs or I would have them. So why would I see that as being better for a client if all conditions are equal? There's a thin line between overkill for a functional reason and excess with no functional reason that just runs up the cost. Making a blanket and baseline statement that putting "2 or 3 APs in a home" w/o knowing any details falls firmly into the latter. Start with one & tune properly. Add more if it's needed.
@worlds_okayest_crossfitter not about price as I don't get paid by the hour for installs. More about is the friend/family happy. After all they are usually jumping from a single ISP gateway. If one AP covers their house then the single ISP gateway would work for them so I wouldn't be wasting my time and wasting their money on any APs. We must have vastly different sized houses in the region than yours.
Stumbled on your channel been watching looking through your videos. Thank you Travis
Welcome to the madness! Thanks!
Thanks for the review.
05:10 without proper 6GHZ antenna, you can not get proper results and probably you will burn your wifi card soon because of antenna.
If I wanted to get the latest and greatest WiFi 7, would I be able to connect the U7 Pro directly to my Mikrotik CRS305?
I don't have any other fancy Ubiquiti switches or any PoE switches. How would I power the U7 Pro - isn't it PoE only?
You would use a poe injector. But yes. No router or switch by Ubiquiti required.
If you don't know unifi "you've been living under a rock"... That's a bit of an exaggeration lol
Their hype is real in the smart home world.
why dont you like the U6-LR...Ive recently installed 2 and they are doing a great job...no issues at all...but I am new to Unifi (running via a Unifi POE Switch and a UDM SE)
It is Mediatek chip based and it has been a struggle with many devices on it. Qualcomm is the way to go.
@@digiblurDIY will bare that in line down the line but with a total of 300 devices in my home at the moment (about 160 on WiFi) it’s all pretty solid right now …. Touch wood
I've not had issues with the U6LR either. Is this a vi Vs Emacs religious war against mediatek,?
No. Just general consensus especially in the smart home world. Too many connectivity issues on the Mediatek side
I have two U6LR and they work fine. The U7 Pro Max, not sure if I like that it gets hot and spinning up a Fan. Would love to try it, but for that it's a little bit expensive;-)
Have you tried any unifi cameras? Would be interesting to see them compared to the empiretech cameras
I tried some in the past and they were super expensive for what they were and I wasn't interested in getting into their somewhat closed ecosystem.
Nice review
Thank you! Cheers!
8:17
Have you tested multiple devices doing speedtest at the SAME time?
I have U6 that's abysmal when I do 2> devices speedtest at the same time. It doesn't add up at all.
Example:
900mbps when doing 1 device speed test
300+300mbps on 2 devices speedtest , that's a total of 600mbps
200+200+200mbps on 3 device speedtest, that's 600mbps.
Unifi is bad at this.
I don't have two 320s to test but I did do this with 2 160mhz devices but don't remember the exact results. Let me check again. I suspect it won't be that great due to 2x2 only.
@@digiblurDIY
Please do, my old tplink router can do 3 devices with a sum of 900mbps no problem. But not U6.
Hope new tech fixes this. Especially MLO update in a few months.
what's wrong with the u6 lr? I have one and it seems fine. how much for the 2nd one?
Mediatek based and I switched to all Qualcomm based ones since I had some connectivity issues like others have experienced with some devices. Probably $90? That's half of a new one
Great video! You're on firstnet B14??
Yup! Work work benefits I guess..
Hi. I am little concerned about the 6LR. I would like to buy a package of them and thought because they are LR that should be perfekt. It's a big building but not many users. What would you recommend. Right know there are 5 AC Pro from some years ago and the WIFI signal in some rooms is bad.
U6 Pro or Enterprise is the way to go right now
@@digiblurDIY Thank you for your answer!
@DanielWürzer-t4b they are still fighting firmware issues on the U7 products so I would hold off if you could.
Omada eap773 is 10gbe ;I know its not your main thing but haven’t seen any videos about it
That would definitely be cool. Nice to see Omada taking the torch and running with it.
Nice review...
Thank you 🙂
Wow my timing sucks. Just bought two U6 pros yesterday to replace some older UAPs.
Those are great APs and if you don't have any 7 or 6e capable devices then anything more is kind of moot.
True, though it's more "future proofing" than anything.
@@Krissco2 I have been holding out for months, and it just leaked that the WiFi 7 in wall units are coming so I am waiting even longer.
Hopefully the antenna pattern is good. I remember one IW model a few years was horrible with so many issues.
@@digiblurDIYSaw mostly positive feedback on the U6 and U6E in walls so I hope so. It is ideal as my home already has rj45 jacks and runs in convenient locations. They also act as switches with a few extra ports which would be prefect in my office area.
Would you recommend the U7 over the U6 Enterprise?
Edit: Never mind, you basically say get the U7 at the end, haha.
I was looking into the U6 Ent for the 4x4 MIMO 6E, but then the U7 was announced but it lacks that. I don't feel like waiting for a U7 Ent though, meh.
The price kind of kills the U6-Ent for most. Now if you do have a big setting with lots of 5ghz and 6ghz devices, you might need to go with that 4x4 advantage there but you are still limited to 2.5gbe there so it is a toss up. Both are Qualcomm chipsets luckily.
@@digiblurDIY Yeahhhh, I might still get the U6 Ent since it's available. I'm bummed to be spending that much, but I held off getting it for so long 😅
The u6 enterprise is more expensive, so why get it ?
one thing I will say about the u6 enterprise tho. It is a solid performer. Stable. Can handle many clients like a champion.
@@digiblurDIY Ok I actually forgot to get the U6 and ended up getting a U7 Pro when it became available. 😂
Seems pretty good so far.
What are you using as a server with 2.5 mgig port?
My unRaid box I did a build video on has an onboard intel 2.5gbe NIC.
I believe AX210NGW is 6E card, not 7. Right?
Yes, that's 6E. The BE200 is WiFi7 6ghz
@@digiblurDIY So test was with WiFi 6E, would be great to see it with BE200
No. I tested with the BE200. I showed a pic of the card as well.
Also check 8:48 for more info
I wonder what wifi version we will be on when a 24 port unmanaged 2.5GbE switch is the same price as a gigabit version?
Should probably pop over to servethehome and checkout their review of cheap unmanaged 2.5Gbit switches.. They are already here and cheap. TP-Link TL-SH1832 is fairly affordable if you want a name brand
That might be a while.
@@digiblurDIY A leak from an recent unfi update also shows additional 2.5Gbit models are on the way.
additional 2.5Gbit switches or APs?
From a leak posted on Reddit, 16port 2.5 1U, 16 port 2.5 POE 1U and a Wifi7 INWall.
Want to make a quick comment about iperf. You should run multiple parallel streams iperf is not very reliable over 1gb with a single stream.
Odd thing when I tried that was the other side refused to connect. I guess I should have enabled it for parallel too but it was just default. I was able to get the full 2.4 gig out of it though
Thanks Travis.
Thank you Ron!
Is the U7 pro max overkill?
I’m not sure if the fan is a plus or minus
Really down to if you need the extra 5ghz chains and the analyzer if you need that.
I like the shaved head dude. Seriously. Looks great. Welcome to the shaved head club. Also like your content and reviews!
I appreciate it! I couldn't go back. So much easier!
I'm still rocking those square UAP's :) And my internet speed is 40Mbps/10Mbps
Probably all good if you don't need to copy an large files around.
@@digiblurDIY It's ok. I think newer models might give me better coverage. I got those really cheap from ebay. I will check if new generation of unifi drops prices on some UAP AC-HD or such
I can feel the hate on mediatek.Not really a unifi related but other wifi ap/router uses the MT7603 chipset is just bad if you use opensource driver like mt76 driver from openwrt, there are these issues that is still present and never been fixed ever since it was reported back in 2018, issues like ssid goes away, terrible speeds and kernel crash. Those issues never been fixed even to this day and the only solution for all of these is use the close source MTK drivers.
THough I woudlnt call qualcom chipset good either since majority of their chipset are closed source, qualcom atheros used to be the darling of the openwrt project back then but they were closely transforming to be like broadcom.
Despite all of that, mediatek is still a decent chipset, its just that the Mt76xx is a disaster but the MT79xx is better now at least.
Yup. I have seen so many people with wifi issues and every single time they happen to be using Mediatek based UniFi equipment. Several of them switched with Qualcomm based ones and say a night and day difference. I don't think UniFi firmware is open source anyways.
Nice intro
Did you mean NanoHD sucks ? If so, then what makes you say that ?
The U6LR and Nano are Mediatek based model that many of us with lots of 2.4ghz IoT devices have had issues with.
If you're buying an AP anyway then $20 more to be get the most "future proof" version hardware available is a no brainer. If you're considering upgrading I think that this conversation is a little bit more difficult but still favors the U7 Pro. It has MANY advantages over anything WiFi6 and lots of these will be unlocked on future firmware updates.
As for this statement: "Most homes need 2 or 3 of these APs" uhmm.... No. Start with one placed centrally and on a ceiling. Test. If you NEED another AP, go from there.
This idea that most residential environments (aka homes) "need" 2 or 3 APs is spawned largely from crappy mesh systems that are trash to begin. One of these U7 Pro APs will run circles around any off-the-shelf mesh system on the market.
You haven't seen how crappy 6ghz propagates yet if you think one covers a house. Maybe a small apartment?
@@digiblurDIY which would be problematic if it were the only form of connectivity on the access point. It's not. The U7 Pro includes all of the bands that the U6 does and just adds in the 6GHz on top of the existing 2.4GHz and 5GHz options.
Few clients will even be capable of the 6GHz band in most environments for several years, especially on the residential side.
This is getting off of the point of my post which was that a ubiquiti unifi AP will cover most modern homes adequately with proper placement. The WiFi6 v WiFi7 debate isn't necessary for that fact.
Yep. Doesn't make sense to of separate ones. It is great to toss in 2 or 3 in a house. Then turn 2.4ghz to medium or low power as most 2.4ghz IoT devices have craptastic PCB antennas and can't transmit worth crap compared to the AP that can yell like a beast. Set them to 20mhz on 1, 6 and 11 and it works great. Done a few installs like this and it works great. There are many phones and even some TVs and streaming devices coming with 6ghz.
@@digiblurDIY I've found that in a typical residential install a single AP will cover the entirety of the properly (including garage & outside) while still allowing you to turn down the broadcast strength in many cases. This is in a typical single family dwelling that isn't a high density environment like an apt complex. In those instances additional APs aren't going to help anyway because it's not an issue of coverage.
You said "It's great to toss in 2 or 3 in a house" in your last reply and to that I say only if you're being paid hourly and your goal is to make more money while not necessarily doing what's best for the client. I like to do what's best for the client and I'm not try to pad profits by installing hardware that they won't ever see a functional benefit from. I'm not saying you are but making such blanket statements in your videos might lead some (including potential clients who find your channel) to believe these are your motives.
To this end, my own personal residence has but one single U7 Pro and runs flawlessly with solid connectivity and perfectly adequate bandwidth to the very edge of our property. For my own money, I see no performance gains to be had from additional APs or I would have them. So why would I see that as being better for a client if all conditions are equal? There's a thin line between overkill for a functional reason and excess with no functional reason that just runs up the cost.
Making a blanket and baseline statement that putting "2 or 3 APs in a home" w/o knowing any details falls firmly into the latter. Start with one & tune properly. Add more if it's needed.
@worlds_okayest_crossfitter not about price as I don't get paid by the hour for installs. More about is the friend/family happy. After all they are usually jumping from a single ISP gateway. If one AP covers their house then the single ISP gateway would work for them so I wouldn't be wasting my time and wasting their money on any APs. We must have vastly different sized houses in the region than yours.
U7 Pro doesnt support MLO whihc is pretty bad for a wifi 7
Yup. Nothing Pro about this being 2x2 MIMO and 2.5gbe too. More of the lite version to me. Marketing crap.
TBH Ping is impressive
It's a somewhat local speed test server on the Ookla app. About an hour or so down the road on the ISP's network.
Your test is useless. Almost 1Gbps less what others get. Don't quit your dayjob, unless this is it.
I think you failed to see the test. Try to watch again during your day job.
What is the power draw of the AP?
I'm showing 11.5 watts on the POE switch report with the AP loaded down with devices.
@@digiblurDIY Thank you, not bad