Great job fixing the player! That machine looks to be from late in the LD-life cycle as it has an AC-3 RF output. LaserDisc was the first home format to offer discrete 5.1 Dolby Digital. Sadly, to hear these tracks you can't just plug it into a modern AV receiver. You would need an AC-3 RF demodulator. I'm sure you can find one if interested. Then you'll have to buy movies with an AC-3 track. They started showing up in 1995. This was two years before DVD.
Saw your video in my recommendations and clicked on it because I know what a Laserdisc is! My dad had a player when I was a kid still, (about 20 years ago) and even back then people my age didn't know what it was. I think we watched a bunch of movies on it, but I know for sure we watched Edward Scissorhands. Getting up to flip the disc over should be mandatory for movie watching still - it's a good time for a bathroom break and to get more snacks!
I subscribed for your sheer patience, perseverance, and skill. I’m all thumbs when it comes to mechanical repair. So I’m always fascinated and envious of people like you.
Excellent work on restoring the laserdisc! Over the past 2 years I have acquired 4 Pioneer laserdisc players for my collection. I ordered the plastic part with gears from the China’s online store - I recommend you order it there for your Pioneer model.
A friend was heavily into Pioneer branded gear in the early 90's. Before DVD's came out he owned a Laserdisc system. I recall the discs were still on the rare side in our area, and were pricey. The LD companies added extra content to sell discs, such as cut footage and an image gallery consisting of behind the scenes photographs and movie posters.
Congratulation for fixing your LD player. I bought one myself few months ago a Pioneer CLD-D704 and I had to fix multiple issues... From not always playing or randomly starting playing the disk to bad video quality "Fuzzy lines in the picture" and a gripping ring installed on the top of the old one. I've succeed too to revive that beauty and voila... I have a nice LD Player for years to come...
Awesome fix on the Laserdisc Player, There are many different 3d print filaments that can be used to strengthen the design, Like ABS, ASA or Carbon Fiber filaments, both of which will require an enclosure to print them in on the 3D printer itself. I 3d print as a hobby and also collect Laserdiscs. One of my favorite finds is a Japanese Laserdisc of The Empire Strikes Back, which is the same as the original screening version with Japanese subtitles.
Amazing. I saw several spots where >I< would have broken something extra out of impatience and frustration. Brilliant work and new sub. There are a lot of 3D printer services that aren't expensive and can produce really high quality results in all sorts of materials. Your friend may also be able to use different filament and print again.
Nothing beats a successful repair, and down the line, a successful restoration. I own the big brother/next step up from your CLD-R5 - the CLD-R6G, which looks nearly-identical to yours. They are amazing players from an amazing line, especially with that auto-flip feature and LD-G for subtitles. Also, Japanese-exclusive editions of laserdiscs can be unique and awesome; there are Indiana Jones and Back to the Future Trilogy box sets that include really cool boxes and goodies inside, such as booklets explaining behind the scenes stuff, or a complete map of Indy's adventures. The best pre-Special Edition versions of the original Star Wars trilogy are on laserdisc as well as Japan-only exclusives. Enjoy your journey and enjoy your laserdiscs!
I bought a laserdisc player and it's so fun. My laserdisc player just needed a new belt and it was good as new. At this point I have almost a hundred titles and at this point I'm running out of places to store the discs. Do note you shouldn't stack more than like a dozen titles in a pile because this can cause the discs to warp. If they are box sets you don't have really worry about that. Of course if they are stored vertically you don't have that problem. Vinyl record storage is a great solution for storing them. Laserdiscs don't have region encoding of course PAL discs only work in PAL Laserdiscs or in players that have both type compatibility. So your Japanese player can play U.S. discs and vice versa.
Having fixed these for decades, I was in horror of how you were going about removing the disc. Taking the clamping assy off, then the front panel loosened at the top row of screws lets you get it out at the side way easier. Btw, I was certified by Pioneer for laserdisc and cd player repair.
@@kriswingert1662 well unfortunately that's the route I went since I could get the front open at all. I'm the end it works and I can watch movies. I'll have to look around for another one so I can learn the real way to open it if it's stuck even if it's not the tray that's broken and making it stuck.
The later models of Laser Disc players had a track that would allow the machine to play both sides of the disc. They had a fancier version that could take 2 discs so you could watch up to a four hour long movie without getting up.
@dedbattery I got still the Pioneer DVL-909 LD/DVD combo since it came on the market. Still works fine. With automatic Side A/B instant play. With some Aftermarket enhancements , Copy protection of DVD disabled, Region Code Free, DTS Sound of Laserdisc switch retrofitted.
Interesting story, I have a pioneer laser player like yours only it’s black, many years ago I happened to be in a shopping center and came across a TV and audio visual store. This is back when they were around. In the window they were demonstrating the player, by playing a concert laser disk of Takanaka, he’s a famous guitar player from Japan. The concert was called “ The Rainbow goblin story “ I told the salesman that I was very interested in the concert and could I purchase it ? “ He said it was a rare demo laser disk only made to demonstrate the player in retail stores and he said it was not for sale, so I asked him if I purchased the player would he throw in the Takanaka laser disk. So I ended up getting the player and the disk for about $ 600.00 US. If I remember, I know it sounds like a lot but you need to remember this was many years ago when the player had just came out on the market. I still have the player your model is probably made after mine. Any way I thought you would find the story interesting. Great job on the player that you repaired.
Thats awesome. I’m currently looking for one. I came across a broken one recently and got cold feet. You’ve given me some confidence to try. As far as the 3d print, your friend could try to print the part on a higher infill setting on the 3d printer. PLA is not the best filament, and I think that’s what was used for your part. If your friend tried ABS or PETG filaments that could work.
Not sure how it was printed in terms of the material. Maybe find someone that has a resin 3D printer that can do finer detail. Well done I have a laserdisc player had it from New used LDs since the early 90's and I don't if mine broker i would be able to fix it like that. Mine is also auto reverse type
Well done. Apparently laserdisc players are pretty tough to fix. When you started taking it apart and were balancing things with one hand and placing screws here and there, I was like. "This player will never run again." However, you managed to get it working! you must have a good memory for re-assembly. I would've lost at least one piece in the process. And Aliens! Great find.
@@Nebulous6 I have little plastic containers that I put screws in and write where I get them from for each section when working on stuff. I also draw pictures if needed and I review the videos I record for help too. Lol. So I have back ups on backups.
I remember when music cds came out I was just blown away by the technology, how small and compact they were and the sound quality was so good, but when laserdiscs came out and I saw the size of the discs in the shops I thought hmm looks like a silver record and being a bit too young to have enough money to even buy the system to play them I thought Ill wait until they shrink them down, low and behold a little later we got dvds and my collecting started.
@@missionpassed4584 I remember my first CD player and what CDs I got but for a long time I was just rollerblading around with my tape player and new kids on the block. I don't think I ever knew about LD till I was older.
What I would look for in laserdisc content is not so much mainstream movies - who cares because you can get most of those on DVD or blu-ray - but rather specialty titles that ONLY existed on laserdisc (and not even VHS), such as documentaries and specials from The Voyager Collection, or concerts on Pioneer. Or the E.T. box set which is the only place you can find a rare deleted scene with Harrison Ford playing Elliot's school principal!
I got one that was used from Ebay quite a few years ago. It came up with and E1 message and my LD got stuck. I took it to a shop and they fixed it but then weeks later it happened again. I was out over $150 and still have it in my closet, Sigh. I am glad you got yours partially working!
I still have about 90 titles on LD, plus two players. We don't watch them often, but once in awhile it's kinda fun. You got a screaming deal on that player. I hope you can get it fully operational again. It is designed so that when it hits the end of the first side it will automatically play the other side. If that's not working, something's still buggered up. Good luck with it!
@@erichanson420 that's awesome, welcome. Do it and share your experience. It was not something I ever thought I would do but it's fun to fix stuff and then when I don't need it I just donate it.
I bought a Pioneer CLD-V2400 Laserdisc player about 10 years ago off Ebay. The seller was an electronics recycler and they had three machines for sale that were all the same. They had been owned by a school system so I'm sure they didn't see a ton of use compared to a machine owned by someone that just had it in their home. The recycler was only about an hour from me so I decided to pick up the machine in person rather then risk damage by shipping it. I was also the first buyer so I had my choice of the three machines. They had a disc I could use to test them and I took the machine that seemed to work the best. This is a one side play only machine so I have to flip the discs manually but that's ok. Less stuff to go wrong. I have one Japanese copy of an American movie where the main audio track is overdubbed in Japanese and the other audio track is the original English so you can choose. 10 year along and it's given me no problems and still works beautifully.
I used to have over 10 of these, was collecting them originally for the old laser disc games dragons lair space ace etc. I had the early industrial players right out of the games, pr-7820, ld-v1000, ld-1100, pr-8210 and several hitachi sega vp models used in astron belt and cobra command as well as several consumer models including the original consumer magnavox discovision unit. The early pioneer units used gas helium neon laser tubes, no laser diode slider assembly, the optics platform were fixed and the entire disc moved on a slider assembly underneath the optics platform pretty cool
I would recommend trying to find an industrial or professional grade machine, as the parts tended to be of better quality and more likely to have lasted. I bought an industrial grade one that was used by a university and fully refurbished by a reputable electronics company, for less than $100, all working (all except for a black rolling line in the picture, which was easily eliminated with a ground lift).
Great vid! Bring back memories... I had a couple of players back in the 90's and my last one I bought back in 2004. Still have 20-30 LDs in my bookshelf to this day.. Nostalgia.
@@timduncan6750 good call, I totally forgot. It took me forever to find that site so I'll have to look again. I usually do post that stuff can't believe I forgot.
You are amazing!!! I have three players two of which switch sides automatically. I just bought Legend with Tom Cruise and Tim Curry, a childhood favorite. My most prized laserdiscs are my Bubblegum Crisis 2032 set of all eight episodes along with all three Crash episodes. I paused the video before seeing your furry friend making biscuits. Just had to add a ❤!
@@JamesBond-mj1wy thank you. Bubblegum Crisis, that's awesome. I haven't watched that in forever. My husband just found tekkan man so we grabbed those and I found Ah my goddess. MurderFace and Howl are great helpers with the videos, lol.
@@primanox007 I found maximum overdrive, Stargate, and twister so time to find out if they are dubbed or subbed either way I'll still watch them. Thank you
@dedbattery just a heads-up, in case you didn't know, there are some versions / cuts of movies that were only ever released on Laserdisc. I've had fun collecting some of them. I think my favorite is Dead Poets Society. The special edition has 14 additional minutes. Doesn't sound like a lot, buts it's really cool to see things like that, IMHO 😉
that reminds me, i still have a pioneer dvl-919e lying around somewhere. i need to dig it out and get it working again. i only watched laserdiscs back then. even when dvd came along, because like you said, the picture quality was better. my laserdisc collection is about 100 movies. hmmm, i definitely need to get that working again. and by the way, this is called auto reverse, you don't have to take the disc out of the player to play the other side, the player does this automatically.
I have 2 Laserdisc players and a small crate of movies in my basement, but mine are the Pioneer DVL-919, which play both Laserdisc and DVDs. As I understand it the unit has a second laser to read the DVDs, so it would be cool if you found one of that style to compare the mechanism. The "DVL" series was Pioneer's attempt to bridge the gap between the Laserdisc and DVD usersas DVD was beginning to take over. My first DVL-919 was my first proper DVD player, as I only had a DVD drive for my computer prior to getting it. It started having issues reading a few DVDs (Young Frankenstein is the only title I remember), so I actually took it into repair, which is where I got the info about there being 2 lasers on the sled mechanism. I am not sure it is correct or not, but they had quoted an amount that exceeded my budget, so I never did the repair. I kept it for the ability to play my Laserdiscs, but bought a new DVD player after that. I got the second player years later, at my current job. I work for a University and we had the DVL-919 is some older classroom AV systems when I started. When those rooms were upgraded I asked if I could have the old Pioneer player, rather than it going to recycling, so I got a backup unit for free. I also got a couple of JVC Super VHS decks the same way. All of it is probably in need of cleaning and minor repair, but I just can't bring myself to get rid of them. If only you were in the US in the Chicago area I would totally loan 1 or both of my player to you to dig into. ☺
I have a Denon 1 bit Lazer disk player it was 1 thousand dollars in USD. I carried it up steps and had the face where disk goes in against my chest. After I hooked it up the drawer would not work right. I asked about getting it fixed ( no warranty) and nobody would touch it. I had about 50 disks. Blade runner special addition 130 $ My friends were all from Philippines and they used for karaoke & Martial arts movies from China. They were into Jet Lee before anyone in Hollywood had him in a feature. Lethal weapon was 3 years later. So I have not watched a disk since that day. I keep all my old stereo equipment. It was worth about 10k back in the day. I still have rare vinyl records of everyone in punk rock.
@@DavidWood-r8k wow that's expensive, can't believe they were so much. Sucks it wasn't working right not glad you could still use it. I still have my original record player that was my mom's.
I have a RCA unit that is very similar and they might be made by the same company. I have not used mine for some time but the last time I did it was still working fine. These also play CD and the mid sized music video LD/CD as well.
I bought an MC Hammer album at a second hand record store, but when I slid the record out of the sleeve, I found it was actually a Japanese laser disc!
@@dedbattery Well it was actually an MC Hammer laser disc, but a Japanese NTSC release! I didn't try it on my record player. ;-) Maybe I'll get to play it one day...
Laserdisc!!! Awesome that you got it working. I figured you would. Welcome to club Laserdisc. Where the disc's are big and shiny, and the gears and belts pop. 😉
Yo your video was shared in a collectors group I’m in! Badass I own 4 players and maybe 1000 discs including one of the sought after pioneer elite models (with matching Blu-ray player) Glad to see someone enjoying these!
@@lastresort1757 that's awesome. Thank you. I went laserdisc hunting yesterday and found demotion man, twister, Stargate and a couple more awesome movies
Most of them can play CDs, even if there is no tiny tray for them. Probably only really old models made before the digital audio was added to the format can't. Because of this addition though, there may be some material with both original and dub audio. And there are no burn-in text subs as well on some. But you need a little decoding box for that. Oh, and there actually were recordable laserdiscs. But good luck finding blanks now, or even a player to burns them in, now anyway I guess.😸
I always wanted one of those machines when I was younger and we were selling them at this audio video store I worked at back in the ninety's. Anyway years later about 6 or 7 years ago I bought one off Ebay with some disc. The whole novelty of having an LD player wore off quicker than I expected for me. The tech I could never afford back in the day was cool to have at first but man blu ray is a night and day difference. I do keep my VHS player around, but that is due to the fact I own tapes the were never released on dvd or bluray. Oh... I did however send the LD player to a nice home to someone who enjoys it more than me and loves it and uses it.
To be fair, the LaserDisc is analog video. If you were watching LaserDisc on a modern display, you'll usually get a rather disappointing result, since modern displays aren't optimised for analog video anymore. Also, LaserDisc operates in the realm of Composite video, so unless your TV (or LaserDisc player) has a lot of circuitry to counter a lot of the artifacts inherent within this type of video reproduction, you'll certainly be disappointed with the result. And then there's the resolution. TVs back measured resolution in scanlines. Broadcast quality back then was roughly equal to that of DVD. LaserDisc was pretty close to that, being able to produce 420 lines of resolution of the TV's full 480 lines of resolution. Compare that to standard VHS, which at best could do 250 lines. Now imagine having to scale that up to a TV supporting 4K resolution and still look good. That's a monumental task for a TV. So truly good upscaler will be a necessary inbetween piece of equipment, if you want to be able to still enjoy LaserDisc on a 55" 4k TV.
@@pHD77 I'm aware of all the specs and what not. I guess the nostalgia made it seem like it was going to be much nicer. And it was a pain in the butt getting the best results. I just didn't think it was worth it in the the end for me. Collecting the disc was pretty pricey. And I already have a record collection that took the house over. lol.
Cool. Was big into laserdiscs in the 90s. My players became dormant when I got into dvd and I finally gave/sold the players and discs away in the early-mid 2000s. Held onto a few titles (Looney Tunes sets) that weren't on dvd, which of course are now on dvd 😅. But I no longer had a player! 😅 Oops! Want them?
@@marzantv thank you for the kind gester but I don't want to take something from you that could be worth money to a collector. I did love Looney tunes so silly.
I'm not 100% positive but there should have been an emergency release on the tray. If there is it would have saved you a lot of time and headache. My Sony LD player had the release like almost all optical players do.
@@KRich408 lol yep that's what I keep hearing. I promise I tried to figure out the tray and get it released easier then the way I went. I do wonder if there would have been more damage if I did go that way since the track was kinda half way stuck since the gear broke off and the laser couldn't return to it's normal location, but I'm no expert.
I have a dvd/laser disc combo player, i one day bumped the tray when it was out and it doesnt move in and out unless i force it by hand.. i knocked something out of alignment or broke a gear, it still plays it is just a matter of getting the tray open and closed. I have opened it at one point but i didnt take things apart, i couldnt see anything obviously wrong.
@@DavidLang1975 sorry, I set up a table for larger projects that would be out for multiple days and I haven't quite gotten to my angles and lighting down pat yet
@@dedbattery Angles and lighting seemed fine to me, but set your autofocus to off and just have the focus set manually on the equipment; your camera was hunting for focus every time you moved in front of it. I see this all the time on youtube vids so definitely not just you!
its chassis fraction different to dvl 909 919 the no disc is issue with b mode side there's little switch inside when laser rotates to b side and the issue happened with original owner ? there was info on this laserdisc database and issue is a small switch near to where laser flips around its located on right side near the back of the player , if its stuck it trigger voltage to the players commands thinking its still in b side mode , a little cleaning it up attention
I maybe late to this but have thought about getting the next print metal plated? There are videos online of people getting their prints in metal and it seems pretty effective for somethings. I don't know much about it but there are more knowledgeable people out there.
Try printing the part using a different filament like PETG that is less prone to snapping vs PLA, and increase the infill as much as possible (ideally 100%)
Hi, DEDBattery. Did you clean the lazer? For a a better picture. Now you can use a soft cloth. And just touch it with the lightest touch when you wipe it. So you do not damage it, going in like your an elephant You did a great job fixing the lazer disc. I loved the video and how happy 😊 you looked near to the end of the video. Stay safe to you and your loved ones.
Yours player is a double sided player, but remember, to play side 1 (or A), that side of the disc must be face up in the player and NOT facing down... because technically, side 1 is really side 2, and side 2 is really side 1...!
@@tandgprod okay thank you. It does seem like I took the harder way around but the original thought was the tray was broken where it wasn't it was the laser wasn't moving so the tray didn't know to move.
I had a Pioneer and a Sony. The Sony was the best due to playing both sides without flipping the disc over. Unfortunately the Sony ended at the top as it broke down and ended up selling my discs. I still have a couple of titles just for nostalgia.
@@JNathanSimmons yep junk section finds can be cheap depending. If it something they know can be expensive when fixed and a wanted item they can be pricier but in general a lot is just "junk"any more.
Don’t ever try to adjust anything in there. I use to repair these and you need special tools and an oscilloscope to put these things dead right and get the best out of them. All laserdisc players now will need a full service and need to be adjusted to get the best out of them. Laserdisc player are nothing like cd players for servicing and you can mess them right up if you don’t know what your doing. Also you find now on older players they will need a recapping and old Grease wiped off and redone. Also to service these you have to short the jumper inside them to put them in service to do all fine adjustments and a scope to watch RF eye pattern, etc.
All you should have done was "forced" the draw out by removing the draw clips. The tray would have opened and you could have lifted out the disc and got access to the belt for replacing...!
It is certainly refreshing to see a female presence in the component-level benching of consumer electronics! Women are underrated in so many fields, and don't get me started on the Oval Office! That's an all-American hangup that the presidency needs to resemble those present at the Constitutional convention in 1787!
We got a Pioneer laserdisk player in the '80s and it kept breaking and going for repair, in the six months we owned it I think we had it for a total of about five weeks before eventually getting a refund.
Great job fixing the player! That machine looks to be from late in the LD-life cycle as it has an AC-3 RF output. LaserDisc was the first home format to offer discrete 5.1 Dolby Digital. Sadly, to hear these tracks you can't just plug it into a modern AV receiver. You would need an AC-3 RF demodulator. I'm sure you can find one if interested. Then you'll have to buy movies with an AC-3 track. They started showing up in 1995. This was two years before DVD.
Brava! Congrats on the fix and the find.
Nicely done! So great to keep old tech working !
Saw your video in my recommendations and clicked on it because I know what a Laserdisc is! My dad had a player when I was a kid still, (about 20 years ago) and even back then people my age didn't know what it was. I think we watched a bunch of movies on it, but I know for sure we watched Edward Scissorhands. Getting up to flip the disc over should be mandatory for movie watching still - it's a good time for a bathroom break and to get more snacks!
I subscribed for your sheer patience, perseverance, and skill.
I’m all thumbs when it comes to mechanical repair. So I’m always fascinated and envious of people like you.
@@txmoney thank you. Trust me I do more damage then fix sometimes but it's all for knowledge sake lol
Independence Day was the only movie I ever watched on LD.
Oh yeah, and the 3D print material you want to use is ABS. Good work!
Excellent work on restoring the laserdisc! Over the past 2 years I have acquired 4 Pioneer laserdisc players for my collection. I ordered the plastic part with gears from the China’s online store - I recommend you order it there for your Pioneer model.
A friend was heavily into Pioneer branded gear in the early 90's. Before DVD's came out he owned a Laserdisc system. I recall the discs were still on the rare side in our area, and were pricey. The LD companies added extra content to sell discs, such as cut footage and an image gallery consisting of behind the scenes photographs and movie posters.
Congratulation for fixing your LD player. I bought one myself few months ago a Pioneer CLD-D704 and I had to fix multiple issues... From not always playing or randomly starting playing the disk to bad video quality "Fuzzy lines in the picture" and a gripping ring installed on the top of the old one. I've succeed too to revive that beauty and voila... I have a nice LD Player for years to come...
@@stephaneneron awesome
Awesome repair, and my favorite Sci-fi movie as well 😉
@@sahamal_savu thanks
Awesome fix on the Laserdisc Player, There are many different 3d print filaments that can be used to strengthen the design, Like ABS, ASA or Carbon Fiber filaments, both of which will require an enclosure to print them in on the 3D printer itself. I 3d print as a hobby and also collect Laserdiscs. One of my favorite finds is a Japanese Laserdisc of The Empire Strikes Back, which is the same as the original screening version with Japanese subtitles.
Nice! Always love seeing optical media resurrected, happy you didn’t need a new laser. Good luck on your LD hunt!
A laserdic!!! OMG! super super super cool! Major props!
@@StitchJones thanks, it was a lot of fun. I found another one for ¥3300 I'm debating on getting it and see what's wrong with it too.
Amazing. I saw several spots where >I< would have broken something extra out of impatience and frustration. Brilliant work and new sub. There are a lot of 3D printer services that aren't expensive and can produce really high quality results in all sorts of materials. Your friend may also be able to use different filament and print again.
@@R.Daneel I'm working with someone now to try and make a better print
So cool. You never know how simple or tricky a fix will be until you give it a go. Well done!
@@kevinsonkevin3634 absolutely and thank you
Always wanted to own a Laserdisc...just because it was awesome tech back in the day, good job on the fix btw!
Nothing beats a successful repair, and down the line, a successful restoration. I own the big brother/next step up from your CLD-R5 - the CLD-R6G, which looks nearly-identical to yours. They are amazing players from an amazing line, especially with that auto-flip feature and LD-G for subtitles. Also, Japanese-exclusive editions of laserdiscs can be unique and awesome; there are Indiana Jones and Back to the Future Trilogy box sets that include really cool boxes and goodies inside, such as booklets explaining behind the scenes stuff, or a complete map of Indy's adventures. The best pre-Special Edition versions of the original Star Wars trilogy are on laserdisc as well as Japan-only exclusives. Enjoy your journey and enjoy your laserdiscs!
@@monmortnoir thank you
I bought a laserdisc player and it's so fun. My laserdisc player just needed a new belt and it was good as new. At this point I have almost a hundred titles and at this point I'm running out of places to store the discs. Do note you shouldn't stack more than like a dozen titles in a pile because this can cause the discs to warp. If they are box sets you don't have really worry about that. Of course if they are stored vertically you don't have that problem. Vinyl record storage is a great solution for storing them.
Laserdiscs don't have region encoding of course PAL discs only work in PAL Laserdiscs or in players that have both type compatibility.
So your Japanese player can play U.S. discs and vice versa.
Having fixed these for decades, I was in horror of how you were going about removing the disc. Taking the clamping assy off, then the front panel loosened at the top row of screws lets you get it out at the side way easier. Btw, I was certified by Pioneer for laserdisc and cd player repair.
@@kriswingert1662 well unfortunately that's the route I went since I could get the front open at all. I'm the end it works and I can watch movies. I'll have to look around for another one so I can learn the real way to open it if it's stuck even if it's not the tray that's broken and making it stuck.
The later models of Laser Disc players had a track that would allow the machine to play both sides of the disc. They had a fancier version that could take 2 discs so you could watch up to a four hour long movie without getting up.
@@georgestephens9663 that's pretty neat
@dedbattery I got still the Pioneer DVL-909 LD/DVD combo since it came on the market. Still works fine. With automatic Side A/B instant play. With some Aftermarket enhancements , Copy protection of DVD disabled, Region Code Free, DTS Sound of Laserdisc switch retrofitted.
Interesting story, I have a pioneer laser player like yours only it’s black, many years ago I happened to be in a shopping center and came across a TV and audio visual store. This is back when they were around. In the window they were demonstrating the player, by playing a concert laser disk of Takanaka, he’s a famous guitar player from Japan. The concert was called “ The Rainbow goblin story “ I told the salesman that I was very interested in the concert and could I purchase it ? “ He said it was a rare demo laser disk only made to demonstrate the player in retail stores and he said it was not for sale, so I asked him if I purchased the player would he throw in the Takanaka laser disk. So I ended up getting the player and the disk for about $ 600.00 US. If I remember, I know it sounds like a lot but you need to remember this was many years ago when the player had just came out on the market. I still have the player your model is probably made after mine. Any way I thought you would find the story interesting. Great job on the player that you repaired.
@@louietesta3752 wow very cool. Something unique to own too, that's awesome.
Nicely done.
Optical transport problems can be a real beast to fix.
Thats awesome. I’m currently looking for one. I came across a broken one recently and got cold feet. You’ve given me some confidence to try.
As far as the 3d print, your friend could try to print the part on a higher infill setting on the 3d printer. PLA is not the best filament, and I think that’s what was used for your part. If your friend tried ABS or PETG filaments that could work.
@@retrotony4119 yay!! Go for it and let me know the outcome. I will have to ask him what he used, but thanks for the info.
Really cool that you were able to get it working again... hopefully you find a more permanent solution.
@@beefviper yah I'm going to need a better print with a smaller side peg so it can move freely. Hopefully I can figure something out
Not sure how it was printed in terms of the material. Maybe find someone that has a resin 3D printer that can do finer detail. Well done I have a laserdisc player had it from New used LDs since the early 90's and I don't if mine broker i would be able to fix it like that. Mine is also auto reverse type
Well done. Apparently laserdisc players are pretty tough to fix. When you started taking it apart and were balancing things with one hand and placing screws here and there, I was like. "This player will never run again." However, you managed to get it working! you must have a good memory for re-assembly. I would've lost at least one piece in the process. And Aliens! Great find.
@@Nebulous6 I have little plastic containers that I put screws in and write where I get them from for each section when working on stuff. I also draw pictures if needed and I review the videos I record for help too. Lol. So I have back ups on backups.
I remember when music cds came out I was just blown away by the technology, how small and compact they were and the sound quality was so good, but when laserdiscs came out and I saw the size of the discs in the shops I thought hmm looks like a silver record and being a bit too young to have enough money to even buy the system to play them I thought Ill wait until they shrink them down, low and behold a little later we got dvds and my collecting started.
@@missionpassed4584 I remember my first CD player and what CDs I got but for a long time I was just rollerblading around with my tape player and new kids on the block. I don't think I ever knew about LD till I was older.
Alien - the 8th passenger. I love this.
2024 here. I still have the LD/DVD Combo from Pioneer DVL-909 European model. Macrovision Free , Code Free, DTS switch.
Excellent detective work and repair!
Awesome!! I would have started panicking and given up as soon as i suspected it was a gear 😅. Great job!!
What I would look for in laserdisc content is not so much mainstream movies - who cares because you can get most of those on DVD or blu-ray - but rather specialty titles that ONLY existed on laserdisc (and not even VHS), such as documentaries and specials from The Voyager Collection, or concerts on Pioneer. Or the E.T. box set which is the only place you can find a rare deleted scene with Harrison Ford playing Elliot's school principal!
I got one that was used from Ebay quite a few years ago. It came up with and E1 message and my LD got stuck. I took it to a shop and they fixed it but then weeks later it happened again. I was out over $150 and still have it in my closet, Sigh. I am glad you got yours partially working!
@@Anthony-qt8wv I'm sorry to hear be that, I'm glad you kept it maybe there is someone out there with a permanent fix for you
I still have about 90 titles on LD, plus two players. We don't watch them often, but once in awhile it's kinda fun. You got a screaming deal on that player. I hope you can get it fully operational again. It is designed so that when it hits the end of the first side it will automatically play the other side. If that's not working, something's still buggered up. Good luck with it!
@@mattalki that's awesome, so I will have to get another piece made so it can do that. Thank you
Glad I found your channel. This is precisely what I want to do:
Find stuff, fix it, (or repurpose the useable components.)
@@erichanson420 that's awesome, welcome. Do it and share your experience. It was not something I ever thought I would do but it's fun to fix stuff and then when I don't need it I just donate it.
I bought a Pioneer CLD-V2400 Laserdisc player about 10 years ago off Ebay. The seller was an electronics recycler and they had three machines for sale that were all the same. They had been owned by a school system so I'm sure they didn't see a ton of use compared to a machine owned by someone that just had it in their home. The recycler was only about an hour from me so I decided to pick up the machine in person rather then risk damage by shipping it. I was also the first buyer so I had my choice of the three machines. They had a disc I could use to test them and I took the machine that seemed to work the best. This is a one side play only machine so I have to flip the discs manually but that's ok. Less stuff to go wrong. I have one Japanese copy of an American movie where the main audio track is overdubbed in Japanese and the other audio track is the original English so you can choose. 10 year along and it's given me no problems and still works beautifully.
@@tallboyyyy that's awesome, glad you found one and you are still enjoying it.
I used to have over 10 of these, was collecting them originally for the old laser disc games dragons lair space ace etc. I had the early industrial players right out of the games, pr-7820, ld-v1000, ld-1100, pr-8210 and several hitachi sega vp models used in astron belt and cobra command as well as several consumer models including the original consumer magnavox discovision unit. The early pioneer units used gas helium neon laser tubes, no laser diode slider assembly, the optics platform were fixed and the entire disc moved on a slider assembly underneath the optics platform pretty cool
@@sinistan1002 oh wow dragon's lair that's awesome. I did see the older ones used helium neon that's wild.
I would recommend trying to find an industrial or professional grade machine, as the parts tended to be of better quality and more likely to have lasted. I bought an industrial grade one that was used by a university and fully refurbished by a reputable electronics company, for less than $100, all working (all except for a black rolling line in the picture, which was easily eliminated with a ground lift).
Very Nice! Would love to watch Japanese Aliens on Laserdisc!
Back in the 90's I had a Laserdisc player and over 100 movies.
Great vid! Bring back memories... I had a couple of players back in the 90's and my last one I bought back in 2004. Still have 20-30 LDs in my bookshelf to this day.. Nostalgia.
Interesting video.
Be sure to send a thank you to the person who posted the 3D printer file for that little bracket piece.
@@timduncan6750 good call, I totally forgot. It took me forever to find that site so I'll have to look again. I usually do post that stuff can't believe I forgot.
You are amazing!!! I have three players two of which switch sides automatically. I just bought Legend with Tom Cruise and Tim Curry, a childhood favorite. My most prized laserdiscs are my Bubblegum Crisis 2032 set of all eight episodes along with all three Crash episodes. I paused the video before seeing your furry friend making biscuits. Just had to add a ❤!
@@JamesBond-mj1wy thank you. Bubblegum Crisis, that's awesome. I haven't watched that in forever. My husband just found tekkan man so we grabbed those and I found Ah my goddess. MurderFace and Howl are great helpers with the videos, lol.
Ecstatic. Like it when you're ecstatic.
CONGRATULATIONS! You did a great job! I love my laserdisc player ❤ Happy collecting!
@@primanox007 I found maximum overdrive, Stargate, and twister so time to find out if they are dubbed or subbed either way I'll still watch them. Thank you
@dedbattery just a heads-up, in case you didn't know, there are some versions / cuts of movies that were only ever released on Laserdisc. I've had fun collecting some of them. I think my favorite is Dead Poets Society. The special edition has 14 additional minutes. Doesn't sound like a lot, buts it's really cool to see things like that, IMHO 😉
@primanox007 oh wow okay awesome, I'm keeping my eyes peeled for LD now lol.
that reminds me, i still have a pioneer dvl-919e lying around somewhere. i need to dig it out and get it working again. i only watched laserdiscs back then. even when dvd came along, because like you said, the picture quality was better. my laserdisc collection is about 100 movies. hmmm, i definitely need to get that working again. and by the way, this is called auto reverse, you don't have to take the disc out of the player to play the other side, the player does this automatically.
I have 2 Laserdisc players and a small crate of movies in my basement, but mine are the Pioneer DVL-919, which play both Laserdisc and DVDs. As I understand it the unit has a second laser to read the DVDs, so it would be cool if you found one of that style to compare the mechanism. The "DVL" series was Pioneer's attempt to bridge the gap between the Laserdisc and DVD usersas DVD was beginning to take over.
My first DVL-919 was my first proper DVD player, as I only had a DVD drive for my computer prior to getting it. It started having issues reading a few DVDs (Young Frankenstein is the only title I remember), so I actually took it into repair, which is where I got the info about there being 2 lasers on the sled mechanism. I am not sure it is correct or not, but they had quoted an amount that exceeded my budget, so I never did the repair. I kept it for the ability to play my Laserdiscs, but bought a new DVD player after that.
I got the second player years later, at my current job. I work for a University and we had the DVL-919 is some older classroom AV systems when I started. When those rooms were upgraded I asked if I could have the old Pioneer player, rather than it going to recycling, so I got a backup unit for free. I also got a couple of JVC Super VHS decks the same way. All of it is probably in need of cleaning and minor repair, but I just can't bring myself to get rid of them.
If only you were in the US in the Chicago area I would totally loan 1 or both of my player to you to dig into. ☺
I have a Denon 1 bit Lazer disk player it was 1 thousand dollars in USD.
I carried it up steps and had the face where disk goes in against my chest.
After I hooked it up the drawer would not work right. I asked about getting it fixed ( no warranty) and nobody would touch it.
I had about 50 disks.
Blade runner special addition 130 $
My friends were all from Philippines and they used for karaoke & Martial arts movies from China.
They were into Jet Lee before anyone in Hollywood had him in a feature.
Lethal weapon was 3 years later.
So I have not watched a disk since that day.
I keep all my old stereo equipment.
It was worth about 10k back in the day.
I still have rare vinyl records of everyone in punk rock.
@@DavidWood-r8k wow that's expensive, can't believe they were so much. Sucks it wasn't working right not glad you could still use it. I still have my original record player that was my mom's.
I have a RCA unit that is very similar and they might be made by the same company. I have not used mine for some time but the last time I did it was still working fine. These also play CD and the mid sized music video LD/CD as well.
I bought an MC Hammer album at a second hand record store, but when I slid the record out of the sleeve, I found it was actually a Japanese laser disc!
@@johnknight9150 oh no, do you know what it was? That's crazy
@@dedbattery Well it was actually an MC Hammer laser disc, but a Japanese NTSC release! I didn't try it on my record player. ;-) Maybe I'll get to play it one day...
Nice!! Job well done! Looking forward what your next project is gonna be:))
we had one of those as a kid. We had ferris bullers day off and the original star wars on laser disc. that's all it ever played.
@@Snagz777 nice
You are strong with the common sense.😁
John
Laserdisc!!! Awesome that you got it working. I figured you would. Welcome to club Laserdisc. Where the disc's are big and shiny, and the gears and belts pop. 😉
@@RetrogamerGenX hahahaha yep. Now I just need movies.
Laserdisc was the dawn of digital.
🤩❤️ Awesome, Great video ! same don’t know much 3d printing but you can try online service alike pcb way …
Yo your video was shared in a collectors group I’m in! Badass I own 4 players and maybe 1000 discs including one of the sought after pioneer elite models (with matching Blu-ray player)
Glad to see someone enjoying these!
@@lastresort1757 that's awesome. Thank you. I went laserdisc hunting yesterday and found demotion man, twister, Stargate and a couple more awesome movies
The Orignal Starw wars Would be my go to and you can also play audio cds on them .
Nice!! That's such a cool fix!!
I'm pretty sure that model can play audio CDs as well, since the tray has a slot in the center for a regular CD. Give it a try!
@@jak8274 I did notice that and was wondering that as well, I will try to play a CD
Most of them can play CDs, even if there is no tiny tray for them. Probably only really old models made before the digital audio was added to the format can't. Because of this addition though, there may be some material with both original and dub audio. And there are no burn-in text subs as well on some. But you need a little decoding box for that.
Oh, and there actually were recordable laserdiscs. But good luck finding blanks now, or even a player to burns them in, now anyway I guess.😸
I always wanted one of those machines when I was younger and we were selling them at this audio video store I worked at back in the ninety's. Anyway years later about 6 or 7 years ago I bought one off Ebay with some disc. The whole novelty of having an LD player wore off quicker than I expected for me. The tech I could never afford back in the day was cool to have at first but man blu ray is a night and day difference. I do keep my VHS player around, but that is due to the fact I own tapes the were never released on dvd or bluray. Oh... I did however send the LD player to a nice home to someone who enjoys it more than me and loves it and uses it.
To be fair, the LaserDisc is analog video. If you were watching LaserDisc on a modern display, you'll usually get a rather disappointing result, since modern displays aren't optimised for analog video anymore.
Also, LaserDisc operates in the realm of Composite video, so unless your TV (or LaserDisc player) has a lot of circuitry to counter a lot of the artifacts inherent within this type of video reproduction, you'll certainly be disappointed with the result.
And then there's the resolution. TVs back measured resolution in scanlines. Broadcast quality back then was roughly equal to that of DVD. LaserDisc was pretty close to that, being able to produce 420 lines of resolution of the TV's full 480 lines of resolution. Compare that to standard VHS, which at best could do 250 lines.
Now imagine having to scale that up to a TV supporting 4K resolution and still look good. That's a monumental task for a TV. So truly good upscaler will be a necessary inbetween piece of equipment, if you want to be able to still enjoy LaserDisc on a 55" 4k TV.
@@pHD77 I'm aware of all the specs and what not. I guess the nostalgia made it seem like it was going to be much nicer. And it was a pain in the butt getting the best results. I just didn't think it was worth it in the the end for me. Collecting the disc was pretty pricey. And I already have a record collection that took the house over. lol.
The ninety’s what?
Now that was awesome! And looks like VHS, after all! Nice video!
absolutely fantastic!!!!!
Cool. Was big into laserdiscs in the 90s. My players became dormant when I got into dvd and I finally gave/sold the players and discs away in the early-mid 2000s. Held onto a few titles (Looney Tunes sets) that weren't on dvd, which of course are now on dvd 😅. But I no longer had a player! 😅 Oops! Want them?
@@marzantv thank you for the kind gester but I don't want to take something from you that could be worth money to a collector. I did love Looney tunes so silly.
I'm not 100% positive but there should have been an emergency release on the tray. If there is it would have saved you a lot of time and headache. My Sony LD player had the release like almost all optical players do.
@@KRich408 lol yep that's what I keep hearing. I promise I tried to figure out the tray and get it released easier then the way I went. I do wonder if there would have been more damage if I did go that way since the track was kinda half way stuck since the gear broke off and the laser couldn't return to it's normal location, but I'm no expert.
Nice Job.
You fixed a laserdisc Player 👌👌👌
I have a dvd/laser disc combo player, i one day bumped the tray when it was out and it doesnt move in and out unless i force it by hand.. i knocked something out of alignment or broke a gear, it still plays it is just a matter of getting the tray open and closed. I have opened it at one point but i didnt take things apart, i couldnt see anything obviously wrong.
@@TimothySmiths I bet as you think something was just bumped off a bit, it could be fixable.
@@dedbattery Yeah i am sure it could, i just dont want to open it and make it worse..
@TimothySmiths understandable
Excellent work ! Nicely and carefully done . :() )
@@mUbase thank you
oh... I still have one catching dust since I couldn't get the accompanying 386 to work...
@@wernerviehhauser94 oh no
this was kinda hard to watch, I fix these players all the time. glad it worked out in the end.
@@DavidLang1975 sorry, I set up a table for larger projects that would be out for multiple days and I haven't quite gotten to my angles and lighting down pat yet
@@dedbattery Angles and lighting seemed fine to me, but set your autofocus to off and just have the focus set manually on the equipment; your camera was hunting for focus every time you moved in front of it. I see this all the time on youtube vids so definitely not just you!
I believe there is a laserdisc player (with special laserdisc discs) that will play interactive games!
DC-G you meant ? games ? CD-i ?
its chassis fraction different to dvl 909 919 the no disc is issue with b mode side there's little switch inside when laser rotates to b side and the issue happened with original owner ? there was info on this laserdisc database and issue is a small switch near to where laser flips around its located on right side near the back of the player , if its stuck it trigger voltage to the players commands thinking its still in b side mode , a little cleaning it up attention
I still have one in my storage locker. Now I wonder if it still works
@@darnellgarrison1628 that would be awesome if it still worked.
Like with an autoreverse cassette player, your LD player will change sides automatically at the end of side A.
@@emilholmgrenmusic thank you, so now I need to get that piece perfect so it does that. I'm excited it does that
Love laserdisc , such a forgot format 👌👌👌
I maybe late to this but have thought about getting the next print metal plated? There are videos online of people getting their prints in metal and it seems pretty effective for somethings. I don't know much about it but there are more knowledgeable people out there.
@@popculturewasteland oh interesting, yah I'm not sure how I'll get it printed yet but looking at my options still.
Try printing the part using a different filament like PETG that is less prone to snapping vs PLA, and increase the infill as much as possible (ideally 100%)
@@Nisstyre56 I'm not sure what he used I'll ask co-workers husband if has that, thank you
Laserdisc Playerrrrrr!
@@Pawl-i9t hahahaha riiight
Hi, DEDBattery. Did you clean the lazer? For a a better picture. Now you can use a soft cloth. And just touch it with the lightest touch when you wipe it. So you do not damage it, going in like your an elephant You did a great job fixing the lazer disc. I loved the video and how happy 😊 you looked near to the end of the video. Stay safe to you and your loved ones.
Yours player is a double sided player, but remember, to play side 1 (or A), that side of the disc must be face up in the player and NOT facing down... because technically, side 1 is really side 2, and side 2 is really side 1...!
You can order 3d printed parts out of various materials online.
Great stuff thanks for saving the ld
player 🥂
There's a little notch, holding the tray in. If you just push it in you can manually just slide the tray and disc out.
@@tandgprod okay thank you. It does seem like I took the harder way around but the original thought was the tray was broken where it wasn't it was the laser wasn't moving so the tray didn't know to move.
I had a Pioneer and a Sony. The Sony was the best due to playing both sides without flipping the disc over. Unfortunately the Sony ended at the top as it broke down and ended up selling my discs. I still have a couple of titles just for nostalgia.
@@nicholasgarratt5646 I'm sorry it broke, glad you still kept she discs
isn't 1100 yen like around $8 US ? that's a pretty nice find. I loved the laserdiscs when they first came out :)
@@JNathanSimmons yep junk section finds can be cheap depending. If it something they know can be expensive when fixed and a wanted item they can be pricier but in general a lot is just "junk"any more.
Don’t ever try to adjust anything in there. I use to repair these and you need special tools and an oscilloscope to put these things dead right and get the best out of them. All laserdisc players now will need a full service and need to be adjusted to get the best out of them. Laserdisc player are nothing like cd players for servicing and you can mess them right up if you don’t know what your doing. Also you find now on older players they will need a recapping and old Grease wiped off and redone. Also to service these you have to short the jumper inside them to put them in service to do all fine adjustments and a scope to watch RF eye pattern, etc.
@@michaelmitchell8218 okay interesting. Well it plays movies, no problems, so for now it works and I'll enjoy it.
Yup! Adjusting bridge balance etc. should have cleaned the lens as well. Fixed a dozen of these back in the day.
Agree 100%. I was certified by Pioneer on their cd and laserdisc players.
Got a pile of new old stock ones with auto flip
All you should have done was "forced" the draw out by removing the draw clips. The tray would have opened and you could have lifted out the disc and got access to the belt for replacing...!
@@dead_formats luckily it didn't need a belt right now just the gear housing broke, but thanks I didn't know that.
I'm in the same boat, I have a bunch of laserdiscs and some that are sealed but every laserdisc player I have gotten was broken.
I wanted one of these things back in the day, but at the time I had nowhere near the budget to afford one.
*EDIT→* I just subbed to your Channel...👍
@@Allan_aka_RocKITEman same, but now I'm able to purchase and see what's I've been missing
@dedbattery >>> Good on 'ya.
It is certainly refreshing to see a female presence in the component-level benching of consumer electronics! Women are underrated in so many fields, and don't get me started on the Oval Office! That's an all-American hangup that the presidency needs to resemble those present at the Constitutional convention in 1787!
We got a Pioneer laserdisk player in the '80s and it kept breaking and going for repair, in the six months we owned it I think we had it for a total of about five weeks before eventually getting a refund.
@@AndrewAHayes oh geez, I wonder why it kept breaking
I have a Laserdisc/Karaoke machine that stopped working. Watching this so I can maybe find out what is wrong with my player
@@ventues9751 that's awesome. Belts and gears are the main thing I was told with these.
I bought a laserdisc player so I could watch the original Star Wars trilogy without all of the junk added in for the rereleases
these 2 parts can be hard to find, especially the laser assembly
I got my parents cld-1200 LD player still works after 35 years
@@Dante1122-k5t that's awesome
I HATE plastic gears with a passion! Let them all be metal! Cheap corporations!
I still have a lot of Laserdiscs
from what i've seen it varies from movie to movie whether it will be dubbed or hard subs.
@@KaPH33n well I bought a couple LD this week so I guess no time like the present to find out lol.
commendable..