Keep in mind that I'm only referring to characters that have been mages throughout their career, not characters that transformed into warlocks, necromancers, etc.
Doronsmovies Well I mean Kael'thas didnt transform into a warlock. He was just " "enhanced" by it. So he was using fel as enchantment...and he was nearly dying for it since we know what fel usage does to the people :/. He was probably going to die if we didnt kill him in Magisters' Terrace. We can say he died as a mage. I think he would be around Rhonim and Antonidas. And actually I can say he could even beat most of these mages but the reason for that isnt about his magical power but as we know from the lore other than being a mage he was also a warrior. So he was a mix and that would grant him an advantage towards them. He was battlehardened too.
It should be worth mentioning that during the War of the Ancients, the pitlords and commanders of the Legion's invasion force were terrified of Azshara's power and obeyed her before the Legion's commands. This should be a show of how powerful she is.
Here's another example of how powerful the Queen of the Naga really is, when she was still a night elf, Mannoroth had gotten angry at her and almost struck her, but didn't. He sensed a power within her that could only be rivaled by Kil'Jaeden or Archimonde or Sargeras himself. When she sunk beneath the waves the old gods sensed this strength too and offered to save her and her followers should she serve them. Despite no longer having the well of eternity to call on for power, Azshara has had 10,000 years to grow her strength, so lore wise facing her would be one of the most dangerous battles that could ever take place on Azeroth. The Queen of the Sea awaits.
can only be rivaled by Kil'Jaeden or Archimonde or Sargeras himself This is literally doesn't make any sense since Sargeras are retardedly more powerfull than Kil'Jaeden and Archimonde lol..Unless if Mannoroth can't tell the difference between ants(Kil'Jaeden and Archimonde) and Sargeras
Leonhard Welebny I only scrolled to the comments to see if I was the only one who felt this way. I was hoping for at least a joke. Milly or The Great Akazamarak 😉
Kael'thas, Aethas, Anasterian, Dath'Remar, Malygos, Kalecgos, Prince Farondis, Chromie, Milhouse Manastorm. these should be in the list too, but great video Doron!
i really would've loved to see kael on this list, as he technically always used mage abilities, even when powered by fel. If we took just mage kael, he would've totally made it into the top half of the rankings. He perfected existing magic, and invented many of his own, becoming well knows for constantly innovating the arcane arts. His skill at enchantment and abjuration were as well known as his skill at offensive magic. and lets not forget he had enough knowledge to reforge felo'melorne, a blade powerful enough to go toe to toe with frostmourne.
Citizens of Dalaran!Raise your eyes to the skies and observe! Today our world's destruction has been averted in defiance of our very makers! Algalon the Observer, herald of the titans, has been defeated by our brave comrades in the depths of the titan city of Ulduar. Algalon was sent here to judge the fate of our world. He found a planet whose races had deviated from the titans' blueprints. A planet where not everything had gone according to plan. Cold logic deemed our world not worth saving. Cold logic, however, does not account for the power of free will. It's up to each of us to prove this is a world worth saving. That our lives... our lives are worth living.
thing is that deathwing himself said he didnt want to fight the guardian. medivh has fought sargeras for control over himself for 3 decades...and it was said kil'jaeden was the lord of the burning legion when sargeras was trying to control medivh..that means he had to struggle...SARGERAS who slices old god infested planets like butter, STRUGGLES to control him. medivh, while fighting sargeras for control, when sargeras was kind of in charge he had managed to burn one of the main dragons of the blue dragonflight from the INSIDE, aka the type given control of MAGIC ITSELF by the titans, burnt from the inside by a mage FIGHTING SARGERAS. after the spell he had to recover because simply the medivh side was enraged and fought him back. his mother, proven to be weaker, summoned kharazhan out of thin air, just like that. mind you this tower connects all ley lines of azeroth, kind of like the nexus. medivh contacted gul'dan through the twisting nether, which was a feat few charachters in the entire WoW franchise could do..when gul'dan saw him he bowed DOWN...when medivh and gul'dan were activating the dark portal medivh single handedly did the work of tens of warlocs INCLUDING gul'dan and INCLUDING thousands of sacrifices, even though arcane is weaker than fel magic by alot, as in when sargeras managed to kill the panthaeon because of the superiority of the fel, ALL while fighting sargeras, so contrary to popular belief, medivh posessed by sargeras is WEAKER bcause theyre fighting for dominance. when medivh was stabbed by khadgar the TRUE FORM OF SARGERAS began to MANIFEST! like...remember the WELL OF ETERNITY, and how powerful it was, and how many sorcerors INCLUDING azhara were working tirelessly for weeks to make it a suitable portal? well medivh just went above and beyond here. he is considered an eternal...meaning his life never ends unless killed...in HOTS you can see him saying that he can sense the connection of mlfurion with nature growing..it means he is above that kind of magic...fun fact medivh also knows dark magic, fel, arcane, and some other magics..i mean his mother, in a pathetically weak state having lost her powers, RESURRECTED...that is a HUGE thing in lore...she has NO HOLD of such magic yet she can resurrect...wow XD . these are SOME things he did..SOME..i can go on...and on...and on... what did azhara do? percisely 2 things 1- mannaroth said he wouldent strike her and that only the big legion commanders could kill her..well fun fact..the pit lords are weak..pathetically weak..almost nothing notable outside of fel fireballs and strength...come on green jesus and a buffed orc killed him...also since he TECHNICALLY is the strongest legion commander outside the big guns like the hands of sargeras, makes sense for him to say that since..there is no 1 else...remember, the legion is about numbers not insane strength. 2- she flooded a city..well remember she had the well of eternity..medivh has NOTHING and is STILL superior THAT IS IT...and no azhara only recieved a change in shape...her powers didnt amplify alot...can say so since im in the future and killed her :P however, MEDIVH STILL LIVES ON.
@@shaherghrewati5266 Azshara has done far more than that. While Deathwing was utterly corrupted by N'Zoth, Azshara was completely immune and was never actually influenced by him. She only worked with him when it suited her goals. Especially now we know she was only planning to free him because she was planning to kill him. She was also able to shatter a pillar of creation, destroy the zone of azsuna, and for some time hold back the imploding waters from the well of eternity. If you read up on the amount of force caused by a regular tsunami (10^17 joules), and then imagine how much more powerful the sundering is, then you have an idea of what she was trying to hold back. Every cubic meter of water weighs one ton, that doesn't even account for the additional force from the momentum of the explosion. Her channeling that force offensively would be similar to the energy of a nuclear blast stronger than anything we have seen on earth. So yeah... She deserves number 1.
@@Aureilius2112 late reply but actually 1) azeroth is WAY tinier than earth. by ALOT. so much so that the weight of all of azeroth's water is a drop in comparison. 2) azshara was not corrupted by n'zoth because deathwing was actually GOOD and he was corrupted by all 4 old gods. azhara is evil all the way bruh and in the cinematic she isnt even being corrupted lol. she also held up a tiny part of the sundering water and she did for like 40 seconds TOPS. 3)lastly destroying a zone is impressive but its nothing comparing to opening the dark portal. portals are only made by the best of the best, and gul'dan on the other side who likely already had the power to destroy a zone paired with a city worth of souls and other warlocks, did his incantation while medivh , alone, did his. 4) aegwynn defeated the avatar of sargeras. and if u didnt know the thing we fought in legion was an empty husk. aegwynn fought a 100% avatar of sargeras , without the help of alexstrasza and the red dragons who ran away, who also had the eye of sargeras ( which had the power to destroy northrend and the lich king with it too ) and the scepter of sargeras ( the strongest legion artifact ) and even though the avatar wanted to lose, he could have also just killed her and the guardian powers would have just disappeared. sargeras didn't see the future and know that he would tell medivh to do the dark portal and all that, it was just a nice coincidence. the orcs were being worked on by kil'jaeden. in short: she legitimately defeated the avatar of sargeras with 2 SUPER powerful artifacts, and medivh is even stronger. i have more evidence if u wanna go on with azhara being strongest. she lost most her arcane with the new darkness powers and she lost the well of eternity , her main source of arcane.
mad killer First off if the gravity and physics works the same way as our world in wow, then the planets would have to be the same size or Azeroth would be significantly more dense to compensate. Either way the math holds up. I wrote the wikis on both characters you are citing here and I will happily discuss these topics. Some of the things you mentioned such as opening portals being more impressive than destroying a zone is really a matter of opinion and not quantifiable. Many spell casters have opened portals to different zones/planes of existence, it’s fairly common. Stormwind mages were able to create portals to alternate Draenor. The thing most impressive thing about the dark portal is it’s size. Another thing you mention is the Avatar of Sargeras. You can make an argument that the version we fought wasn’t as powerful as the one Aegwynn fought but that’s also a matter of opinion. It’s never stated in game or suggested in any way that is was less powerful. It was given life again by Kil’jaeden who is probably the strongest being we knew of other than the titans and old gods (prior to shadowlands lore also). We never knew how much power Sargeras put into his Avatar in the beginning but what we do know is that Sargeras’ plan wasn’t to win the battle with Aegwynn, it was to corrupt her unborn child Mediev to further his goals. We don’t know if Aegwynn would have actually won that fight legitimately. Finally if you are going to suggest Aegwynn is more powerful than Azshara it might interest you to know that Jaina, a character who knew Argwynn quite well cites Azshara as the most powerful sorceress this world has ever known. She said this 10k years after the implosion of the well so even if you say she is weaker now (something the lore never states), she is still more powerful than Aegwynn according to Jaina.
@@Aureilius2112 1) look at game theory's video on the sword of sargeras incident. he did the math and he said that the planet is incredibly smaller and way denser than earth. 2) lorewise only the best mages can open portals, and the mages opining portals to alternate outland is a matter of gameplay, not lore, so i'm not being biased especially since medivh is the only mage to pull off interplanetary portals on his own WITHOUT any kind of prior connection. 3) ill give it to you that the avatar is the same strength. i think i misread something. but that does NOT account for the fact that the avatar had the eye of sargeras and the scepter of sargeras, two INCREDIBLY destructive artifacts. the eye of sargeras can destroy a continent, which is way more impressive than a single zone. and sargeras lost many strong artifacts of his because of this. he could have killed her, but he didn't. as i said he didn't know of the master plan involving the orcs that will occur later, and killing her would stop the guardians forever. the avatar didn't back down because of his secret plot since the energy unleashed still made the dragons retreat and it was obvious the avatar didn't throw the fight but it was somewhat of a "i win in both cases" 4) jaina NEVER stated that azhara is the ABSOLUTE strongest mage. she said "PERHAPS the strongest mage." besides aegwynn never showed jaina even a fraction of her power. jaina does NOT know the real power a guardian can unleash. 5) aegwynn subdued aluneth, a creature the blue dragonflight contained just to study. aluneth is essentially THE creature that taught azeroth magic. aluneth is scared of her, and aluneth is easily the best mage staff there has EVER existed. this staff actually gives aegwynn a massive power spike. aluneth constantly makes fun of dalaran and all that so he is freaking STRONG, yet he is scared out of his pants when agywynn comes. 6) medivh, is actually in fact not dead. he is in a weird limbo state ( and he is also an eternal, like azhara is ) in which he is alive, but its also a spirit ( he isnt in the shadowlands ). he saw the future when he died and "drifted beyond the borders of reality". he also has some form of time magic, as in the novel twilight of the aspects, he knows why thrall is in the timeways and helps him find nozdormu. he also foreshadows the events of antorus the burning throne. he can also go to the twisting nether seemingly without interruption. 7) in the khadgar harbingers, he is shown with guardian powers to be able to destroy entire legion armies single-handedly. meaning that he could have very efficiently helped defeat key enemies in most expansions had it not been for his disappearance. 8) to get some of his powers after he was resurrected, medivh channeled the powers of all the ley lines under kharazhan ( which were the main concentration of ley lines before malygos redirected them ) and ley lines are the things that let mages do their things. imagine that all these ley lines are a PORTION of his power ( azhara herself used one only + the tidestone to break an old god's prison ) 9) the guardians in general have WAY more combat skills and are generally more accustomed to it while azhara will just belittle them and be cocky and all that azhara stuff. she is a queen so its obvious she barely fights. 10) an avatar of medivh made gul'dan bow down. ( its an avatar of him, not really him, because draenor is far and medivh cant go there in the flesh ) and gul'dan doesn't know sargeras is inside medivh. medivh makes him bow down because he didnt like gul'dan. 11) medivh, with all of his feats before his death,was battling sargeras. he never shows even a portion of his strength because everything bad that sargeras wants medivh to do, medivh HIMSELF doesn't want. and these usually end up with him fainting due to the internal struggle. if medivh had his guardian powers without sargeras, he would be able to do so much more. if sargeras and medivh were both working together, full power, on a common goal, then there's nothing they CANT do. also its common sense that she is weaker. she lost the well, and she used the well alot. if you put any mage from this list into azhara's position ( with access to the well ) they will become even stronger than azhara. she might have the knowledge, and she might still be heck powerful, but we have never seen a 100% medivh, and his feats ALREADY match well with hers. in the raid she almost never uses arcane. she has knowledge far beyond 99.9999% of mages hence she can block teleportation and all that but she doesn't have any combat with it.
Queen Azshara was and still is the most powerfull mage on Azeroth, she was able to enhance her beauty, reduce her magical aura, force demons to fight for her even against their kin, she could only be surpassed by Kil'jaeden/Archimonde or she could even be their equal, when the well exploded she was able to create a protective shield around her palace protecting her and her highborne from the arcane-twisted waters of the ocean, with only one swet falling...Azshara the one true leader of the Kaldorei, all hail The Daughter of the Moon, the Flower of Life.
I actually wanted to hear something that they have achieved as a mage, Rhonin with that blue fire potion burning the demons, Jaina created the Mass teleport spell, Antonidas made that anti-undead barrier, not just a simple one, Aegwynn used one, if not the most powerful enchantment I've ever seen....when she sunk the iles she said that NO magic from Azeroth could ever reveal the iles, ofc she forgot Fell, but still. Azshara dezerves no.1
If this is going to be a series - i'd like to see how you rate the player characters in terms of power level to their peers. I can imagine mages being lower down, but classes like hunters for example, wouldn't they be one of the most powerful hunters in the lore?
The final bit on Medivh, that vision of Medivh was not Medivh, but an imposter dreadlord trying to fool Khadgar. Though the actual Medivh seems to have left some stuff behind for Khadgar in terms of memories/visions.
Great video but in my opinion: 1 Medan (M. mage and shaman. Being young he attained the power of a guardian) and Azshara Because of the antiquity she has, she is more familiar with magic and therefore has great power. 2 I think they equate Medivh(M. mage and warlock) and his mother. 3 Alodi. 4 Kaelthas (mage, warrior and warlock) But the story is very brutal with him. 5 Rhonin and Illidan(I. in old times). 6 Kadgar (By the knowledge that Medivh gave him). 7 Antonidas. and many others...
tikitarget Azshara should definitely count she's one of the most powerful natural sorcerers without any guardian or Nightwell powers. And nah Aethas not really all that powerful to be on the list. Everyone listed I feel is more powerful than him plus he's still relatively young
hey man it's been awhile for me, great video. I would add the human mage that turned himself "undead" like a thousand years before Lich King. I can't find his name, I think he makes an appearance at the start of the mage class hall quest.
I feel like Aegwynn and Elodi should be much higher on that list. Not many can claim they went up against a titan (even if they were just an avatar) and Elodi STARTED the guardians. While Aegwynn and Medivh were guardians during their life, their power was transfered down from past generations. Alodi started it which means he originally held that power. That should put him at #1. Azshara and Elisande both took their power from an outside source.
Honestly, this list isn't very good. No one except Azshara should be above any Guardian. You also completely missed a Guardian. I also can't see how Rommath made this list over his predecessor who he would've never would've gotten the title from had it not been for the Scourge. I don't even know why Modera is on this list or what even put her above the other council members. She's no where near one of the top 10 Mages. My list would go: 1. Azshara 2. Medivh 3. Aegwynn 4. Scavell 5. Alodi 6. Khadgar Those are all the people who are Guardian level except Khadgar. I added Khadgar because he's more than qualified by multiple sources (Medivh, Alodi, the Burning Legion) to become Guardian but refuses. I ordered them based off the fact that each Guardian should be more powerful than the last since each Guardian builds on the power of the Tirisfalen power during their tenure and passes it on to the next for the cycle to continue. After those 6 it's debatable who would come next but a few honorable mentions I'd like to list would be: Jaina Proudmoore (numerous feats, former Leader of the Kirin Tor), Antonidas (former Leader of the Kirin Tor), Rhonin (numerous feats, former Leader of the Kirin Tor), Nielas Aran (able to contend with Aegwynn with the help of Tirisgarde artifacts), Belo'vir Salonar (the last truly qualified Grand Magister of Silvermoon), Meitre (the first to master and wield the power of Aluneth, his teachings became the foundation for learning magic millennia after he died). I'm probably missing a few more candidates too.
i think its worth noting that medivh at his full (which we dont know) can easily be over azhara especially after she lost her magic pool. and if saying that mannaroth feared azhara, well DEATHWING feared medivh ( at least before his peak of power) and since im not much of a book reader, can someone tell me weather 10000 yrs is longer than the guardians existance, cause if so, then medivh has more power in general too :P, besides i mean the guardians were empowered by the strongest mages and the staff preserved that powe, so technically medivh has alot more power given the lots and lots of guardians. maybe using it too much can destroy medivh? idk but with the info we have about both characters i can confidently say medivh is the strongest mage in the wow franchise cause we dont have much ( if any) worth noting achievements of azhara other than her being a quite talentd mage and having a pool of magic. bro medivh was able to open a portal on his own whilst gul'dan needed thousands to be sacrificed to him, and i believe fel is stronger than arcane, so just imagine how strong he is XD. his tower links all ley line seals of azeroth too! does that make up as a mini well of eternity? also agewyn ( which we know is weker than medivh) was able to ressurect, which isn't in the limits of us mages. medivh also foresaw the future back in w3, cause how did he know the legion will come alot before they made their first apprearance with tyrande? also aitesh (his staff) is a fraction stronger than frostmourne ( this is inassured info correct me if im wrong, this dosent rly relate just saying :P ) EDIT: agywen killed the avatar of sargeras using aitesh, and with one ritual summoned the great tower out of the very fabric of reality, and that too was bestowed to medivh. more debate coming soon :D
As someone who has read every book, and written much of the wowpedia articles on these characters, let me help you out. Azshara has been alive for thousands of years more than the existence of the Guardians. Her entire reign as Queen was longer than the entirety of the Guardians, and all that time she was infusing with the powers of the Well. Also, while Deathwing was utterly corrupted by N'Zoth, Azshara was powerful enough to resist. As I am about to explain, Azshara is also on par with Deathwing in terms of raw destructive power. Azshara was able to shatter a pillar of creation, destroy the zone of azsuna, and for some time hold back the imploding waters from the well of eternity. If you read up on the amount of force caused by a regular tsunami (10^17 joules), and then imagine how much more powerful the sundering is, then you have an idea of what she was trying to hold back. Also remember she did this with out the Well of Eternity since it had already imploded at this point. When she channels this offensively, its like having nuclear bombs level of power, like what she did to Azsuna.
Hey, Doron. I recently racechanged to troll (they seem way more fancy to RP compared to pandaren). I watched your how to RP (troll and rogue). Do you have any suggestion on mounts I could use, that got some higher quality compared to the raptors? Thanks.
Aszhara stronger than Medivh and Aegwynn? ;o You must be joking, all of u. Aszhara was in par with Kil'jaeden (prolly archimonde too) She wouldnt touch any of the above. With her old god buff though we dont know.
Hey Doron. I just started playing again after quitting back in December so I have a lot of videos to catch up on as I grind away. My question is did you consider Grand Magistrix Ellisande for this list? I think she is quite the powerful mage.
Oh and Kosak said that Aethas was at the same level as Jaina and khadgar and Rommath is more powerful that Aethas so that means Rommath is more powerful than Jaina.
Alodi should be higher on the list, he started the order of the guardians which at the time was a big feat and had natural power compared to other mages
That is an unusual pronunciation (not saying it is incorrect or anything), but I had always pronounced and thought it was Anton-Nigh-dus @10:22 I have never seen that image of Jaina, she looks crazy and scary.
I still think medivh is the strongest since he stopped deathwing from destroying Azeroth. Not to mention if his mom could attack sargares then for sure he could. But as you mentioned we never got to see his full power since for example he only killed deathing with a few others with only a few spells.
Above jaina definitely not. This video analyzes characters during their prime, and jaina is currently the strongest mage alive. This video itself is bullshit and wrong by itself because jaina is top 5 strongest CHARACTERS (not only mages, and not counting titan and God stuff) in warcraft lore
Where does the Mage-Character stand on this list? :o Also, can you make one of these only for warlocks? I would love to know what other powerful warlocks there are aside of Gul'dan, Archimonde and Kil'jaeden.
Actually. you're wrong in one point. Aegwynn didnt actually create ''Tomb of Sargeras''. She just sealed the avatar of sargers into ancient Night Elven, temple of elune. And it wasn't mediv that appeared to khadgar, it was a dreadlord in disguised. :S dude you really have to man up with your info
But Kael lived and died as a mage. He may have dabbled with the fel, but he never became a warlock. As for Illidan, he may be a demon hunter, but both in the game and in the book he continued to practice sorcery...a lot. You may say that he is a mage/demon hunter. xD
Illidan started as a druid and became a demon hunter later on so this invalidates from this list. As for Kael, he was using fel energy to keep himself alive after his defeat in Tempest Keep, which makes him kinda warlocky but I would still add him to this list Also I'm pretty sure Rommath is more powerfull than at least Antonidas
This is a very good list! BUT you are missing 3 mages on this list on my opinion! 1st you forgot about Kael Thas, even though he transformed like you said you wont include such characters, he was still somehow a mage, and at his power peak in BC he was surely on the level, probably even stronger than jaina now, The next one is Mor Gok, the King of the Ogres and their strongest Mage surly deserves a spot on this list, even Kadghar said that he has enormous powers. Lastly and Nr. 3 ist Elisande which some already did mention here, i think she is also around that Nr. 4-5 spot
Ok i agree with most of this list, the only aspect of the list that i am not agreeing with as much was the Jaina Khadgar placements. I personally think they should be switched around, its very objective as it was stated in the video, but i think that Jaina is the strongest mage in terms of sheer power.
how ya gonna say medivh is higher but 2 earlier u say "even medivh thought khadger will be stronger than him" lol that didnt make sense to me but other than that really enjoyed the vid haha more entertaining than actually playing WoW :)
You guy know that tyrande dueled queen Azshara,and prince kaelthas was also a highborne mage,who probably later claimed the power to summon phoenixes and the sun power wtf,I don't think he is weaker than Azshara,just she is arcane he is fire.And Jaina is op frost xD Why is kael'thas not on this list,even ilidan admire his magic skills,and lady vashj aswell.And later on whit fell magic he can fight Azshara void magic.
I completely agree that Queen Azshara should be at the top of the list. She's probably the most terrifying aspect of the naga in general, just the thought that they are backed by one of the most monstrous beings on Azeroth.
Maciej Puchalski we just met her and we don't know how she matches up against other mages. She's relatively new, do we truly know how powerful she even is?
Keep in mind that I'm only referring to characters that have been mages throughout their career, not characters that transformed into warlocks, necromancers, etc.
Possibly, could do something for the classes with really interesting characters.
Sargeras is hardly a warlock. He is like a mix between a warrior and a warlock.
Doronsmovies Well I mean Kael'thas didnt transform into a warlock. He was just " "enhanced" by it. So he was using fel as enchantment...and he was nearly dying for it since we know what fel usage does to the people :/. He was probably going to die if we didnt kill him in Magisters' Terrace. We can say he died as a mage. I think he would be around Rhonim and Antonidas. And actually I can say he could even beat most of these mages but the reason for that isnt about his magical power but as we know from the lore other than being a mage he was also a warrior. So he was a mix and that would grant him an advantage towards them. He was battlehardened too.
Doronsmovies illidan is a mix of DH warrior and battle Maged , no?
fallenistari if he did he would beat Khadgar too. But yea this is what I meant.
It should be worth mentioning that during the War of the Ancients, the pitlords and commanders of the Legion's invasion force were terrified of Azshara's power and obeyed her before the Legion's commands. This should be a show of how powerful she is.
Queen Azshara really is so bad ass. Probably my favorite character. haha
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Here's another example of how powerful the Queen of the Naga really is, when she was still a night elf, Mannoroth had gotten angry at her and almost struck her, but didn't. He sensed a power within her that could only be rivaled by Kil'Jaeden or Archimonde or Sargeras himself. When she sunk beneath the waves the old gods sensed this strength too and offered to save her and her followers should she serve them. Despite no longer having the well of eternity to call on for power, Azshara has had 10,000 years to grow her strength, so lore wise facing her would be one of the most dangerous battles that could ever take place on Azeroth. The Queen of the Sea awaits.
She is going to be the end boss of the second raid of BFA
can only be rivaled by Kil'Jaeden or Archimonde or Sargeras himself
This is literally doesn't make any sense since Sargeras are retardedly more powerfull than Kil'Jaeden and Archimonde lol..Unless if Mannoroth can't tell the difference between ants(Kil'Jaeden and Archimonde) and Sargeras
Archimonde and kiljaeden probably but thats stretching it. Sargeras would just fart over her.
This did not age well :(
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Don't forget that The Queen bitch-slapped Mannoroth for being too rude xD.
Millhouse Manastorm should be #1
I agree...."Witness the full power of Milhouse Manastorm!!!!"... xD
Leonhard Welebny No one can match with Azshara's power! She is the most powerful immortal mage on Azeroth!
Leonhard Welebny I only scrolled to the comments to see if I was the only one who felt this way. I was hoping for at least a joke. Milly or The Great Akazamarak 😉
What is this? A lowly gnome?
TRAMPLING GNOME! YOUR ARROGANCE WILL BE YOUR UNDOING!!
Kael'thas, Aethas, Anasterian, Dath'Remar, Malygos, Kalecgos, Prince Farondis, Chromie, Milhouse Manastorm. these should be in the list too, but great video Doron!
i really would've loved to see kael on this list, as he technically always used mage abilities, even when powered by fel. If we took just mage kael, he would've totally made it into the top half of the rankings. He perfected existing magic, and invented many of his own, becoming well knows for constantly innovating the arcane arts. His skill at enchantment and abjuration were as well known as his skill at offensive magic. and lets not forget he had enough knowledge to reforge felo'melorne, a blade powerful enough to go toe to toe with frostmourne.
Azshara is the true babe, bring in the Nagas!
For Naz'jatar!
Liya Özsöyler Our queen beneath the tides ! Hail The Light of Lights ! Hail Queen Azshara !
Citizens of Dalaran!Raise your eyes to the skies and observe! Today our world's destruction has been averted in defiance of our very makers!
Algalon the Observer, herald of the titans, has been defeated by our brave comrades in the depths of the titan city of Ulduar.
Algalon was sent here to judge the fate of our world. He found a planet whose races had deviated from the titans' blueprints. A planet where not everything had gone according to plan.
Cold logic deemed our world not worth saving. Cold logic, however, does not account for the power of free will. It's up to each of us to prove this is a world worth saving. That our lives... our lives are worth living.
Amazing Content! I was waiting for Kael'thas though
Me: lol who the f is stronger thatn medivh???
*sees no1*
lol nvm
thing is that deathwing himself said he didnt want to fight the guardian. medivh has fought sargeras for control over himself for 3 decades...and it was said kil'jaeden was the lord of the burning legion when sargeras was trying to control medivh..that means he had to struggle...SARGERAS who slices old god infested planets like butter, STRUGGLES to control him. medivh, while fighting sargeras for control, when sargeras was kind of in charge he had managed to burn one of the main dragons of the blue dragonflight from the INSIDE, aka the type given control of MAGIC ITSELF by the titans, burnt from the inside by a mage FIGHTING SARGERAS. after the spell he had to recover because simply the medivh side was enraged and fought him back. his mother, proven to be weaker, summoned kharazhan out of thin air, just like that. mind you this tower connects all ley lines of azeroth, kind of like the nexus. medivh contacted gul'dan through the twisting nether, which was a feat few charachters in the entire WoW franchise could do..when gul'dan saw him he bowed DOWN...when medivh and gul'dan were activating the dark portal medivh single handedly did the work of tens of warlocs INCLUDING gul'dan and INCLUDING thousands of sacrifices, even though arcane is weaker than fel magic by alot, as in when sargeras managed to kill the panthaeon because of the superiority of the fel, ALL while fighting sargeras, so contrary to popular belief, medivh posessed by sargeras is WEAKER bcause theyre fighting for dominance. when medivh was stabbed by khadgar the TRUE FORM OF SARGERAS began to MANIFEST! like...remember the WELL OF ETERNITY, and how powerful it was, and how many sorcerors INCLUDING azhara were working tirelessly for weeks to make it a suitable portal? well medivh just went above and beyond here. he is considered an eternal...meaning his life never ends unless killed...in HOTS you can see him saying that he can sense the connection of mlfurion with nature growing..it means he is above that kind of magic...fun fact medivh also knows dark magic, fel, arcane, and some other magics..i mean his mother, in a pathetically weak state having lost her powers, RESURRECTED...that is a HUGE thing in lore...she has NO HOLD of such magic yet she can resurrect...wow XD . these are SOME things he did..SOME..i can go on...and on...and on...
what did azhara do? percisely 2 things
1- mannaroth said he wouldent strike her and that only the big legion commanders could kill her..well fun fact..the pit lords are weak..pathetically weak..almost nothing notable outside of fel fireballs and strength...come on green jesus and a buffed orc killed him...also since he TECHNICALLY is the strongest legion commander outside the big guns like the hands of sargeras, makes sense for him to say that since..there is no 1 else...remember, the legion is about numbers not insane strength.
2- she flooded a city..well remember she had the well of eternity..medivh has NOTHING and is STILL superior
THAT IS IT...and no azhara only recieved a change in shape...her powers didnt amplify alot...can say so since im in the future and killed her :P however, MEDIVH STILL LIVES ON.
@@shaherghrewati5266 Azshara has done far more than that. While Deathwing was utterly corrupted by N'Zoth, Azshara was completely immune and was never actually influenced by him. She only worked with him when it suited her goals. Especially now we know she was only planning to free him because she was planning to kill him. She was also able to shatter a pillar of creation, destroy the zone of azsuna, and for some time hold back the imploding waters from the well of eternity. If you read up on the amount of force caused by a regular tsunami (10^17 joules), and then imagine how much more powerful the sundering is, then you have an idea of what she was trying to hold back. Every cubic meter of water weighs one ton, that doesn't even account for the additional force from the momentum of the explosion. Her channeling that force offensively would be similar to the energy of a nuclear blast stronger than anything we have seen on earth. So yeah... She deserves number 1.
@@Aureilius2112 late reply but actually 1) azeroth is WAY tinier than earth. by ALOT. so much so that the weight of all of azeroth's water is a drop in comparison.
2) azshara was not corrupted by n'zoth because deathwing was actually GOOD and he was corrupted by all 4 old gods. azhara is evil all the way bruh and in the cinematic she isnt even being corrupted lol. she also held up a tiny part of the sundering water and she did for like 40 seconds TOPS.
3)lastly destroying a zone is impressive but its nothing comparing to opening the dark portal. portals are only made by the best of the best, and gul'dan on the other side who likely already had the power to destroy a zone paired with a city worth of souls and other warlocks, did his incantation while medivh , alone, did his.
4) aegwynn defeated the avatar of sargeras. and if u didnt know the thing we fought in legion was an empty husk. aegwynn fought a 100% avatar of sargeras , without the help of alexstrasza and the red dragons who ran away, who also had the eye of sargeras ( which had the power to destroy northrend and the lich king with it too ) and the scepter of sargeras ( the strongest legion artifact ) and even though the avatar wanted to lose, he could have also just killed her and the guardian powers would have just disappeared. sargeras didn't see the future and know that he would tell medivh to do the dark portal and all that, it was just a nice coincidence. the orcs were being worked on by kil'jaeden. in short: she legitimately defeated the avatar of sargeras with 2 SUPER powerful artifacts, and medivh is even stronger.
i have more evidence if u wanna go on with azhara being strongest. she lost most her arcane with the new darkness powers and she lost the well of eternity , her main source of arcane.
mad killer First off if the gravity and physics works the same way as our world in wow, then the planets would have to be the same size or Azeroth would be significantly more dense to compensate. Either way the math holds up.
I wrote the wikis on both characters you are citing here and I will happily discuss these topics. Some of the things you mentioned such as opening portals being more impressive than destroying a zone is really a matter of opinion and not quantifiable. Many spell casters have opened portals to different zones/planes of existence, it’s fairly common. Stormwind mages were able to create portals to alternate Draenor. The thing most impressive thing about the dark portal is it’s size.
Another thing you mention is the Avatar of Sargeras. You can make an argument that the version we fought wasn’t as powerful as the one Aegwynn fought but that’s also a matter of opinion. It’s never stated in game or suggested in any way that is was less powerful. It was given life again by Kil’jaeden who is probably the strongest being we knew of other than the titans and old gods (prior to shadowlands lore also). We never knew how much power Sargeras put into his Avatar in the beginning but what we do know is that Sargeras’ plan wasn’t to win the battle with Aegwynn, it was to corrupt her unborn child Mediev to further his goals. We don’t know if Aegwynn would have actually won that fight legitimately.
Finally if you are going to suggest Aegwynn is more powerful than Azshara it might interest you to know that Jaina, a character who knew Argwynn quite well cites Azshara as the most powerful sorceress this world has ever known. She said this 10k years after the implosion of the well so even if you say she is weaker now (something the lore never states), she is still more powerful than Aegwynn according to Jaina.
@@Aureilius2112 1) look at game theory's video on the sword of sargeras incident. he did the math and he said that the planet is incredibly smaller and way denser than earth.
2) lorewise only the best mages can open portals, and the mages opining portals to alternate outland is a matter of gameplay, not lore, so i'm not being biased especially since medivh is the only mage to pull off interplanetary portals on his own WITHOUT any kind of prior connection.
3) ill give it to you that the avatar is the same strength. i think i misread something. but that does NOT account for the fact that the avatar had the eye of sargeras and the scepter of sargeras, two INCREDIBLY destructive artifacts. the eye of sargeras can destroy a continent, which is way more impressive than a single zone. and sargeras lost many strong artifacts of his because of this. he could have killed her, but he didn't. as i said he didn't know of the master plan involving the orcs that will occur later, and killing her would stop the guardians forever. the avatar didn't back down because of his secret plot since the energy unleashed still made the dragons retreat and it was obvious the avatar didn't throw the fight but it was somewhat of a "i win in both cases"
4) jaina NEVER stated that azhara is the ABSOLUTE strongest mage. she said "PERHAPS the strongest mage." besides aegwynn never showed jaina even a fraction of her power. jaina does NOT know the real power a guardian can unleash.
5) aegwynn subdued aluneth, a creature the blue dragonflight contained just to study. aluneth is essentially THE creature that taught azeroth magic. aluneth is scared of her, and aluneth is easily the best mage staff there has EVER existed. this staff actually gives aegwynn a massive power spike. aluneth constantly makes fun of dalaran and all that so he is freaking STRONG, yet he is scared out of his pants when agywynn comes.
6) medivh, is actually in fact not dead. he is in a weird limbo state ( and he is also an eternal, like azhara is ) in which he is alive, but its also a spirit ( he isnt in the shadowlands ). he saw the future when he died and "drifted beyond the borders of reality". he also has some form of time magic, as in the novel twilight of the aspects, he knows why thrall is in the timeways and helps him find nozdormu. he also foreshadows the events of antorus the burning throne. he can also go to the twisting nether seemingly without interruption.
7) in the khadgar harbingers, he is shown with guardian powers to be able to destroy entire legion armies single-handedly. meaning that he could have very efficiently helped defeat key enemies in most expansions had it not been for his disappearance.
8) to get some of his powers after he was resurrected, medivh channeled the powers of all the ley lines under kharazhan ( which were the main concentration of ley lines before malygos redirected them ) and ley lines are the things that let mages do their things. imagine that all these ley lines are a PORTION of his power ( azhara herself used one only + the tidestone to break an old god's prison )
9) the guardians in general have WAY more combat skills and are generally more accustomed to it while azhara will just belittle them and be cocky and all that azhara stuff. she is a queen so its obvious she barely fights.
10) an avatar of medivh made gul'dan bow down. ( its an avatar of him, not really him, because draenor is far and medivh cant go there in the flesh ) and gul'dan doesn't know sargeras is inside medivh. medivh makes him bow down because he didnt like gul'dan.
11) medivh, with all of his feats before his death,was battling sargeras. he never shows even a portion of his strength because everything bad that sargeras wants medivh to do, medivh HIMSELF doesn't want. and these usually end up with him fainting due to the internal struggle. if medivh had his guardian powers without sargeras, he would be able to do so much more. if sargeras and medivh were both working together, full power, on a common goal, then there's nothing they CANT do.
also its common sense that she is weaker. she lost the well, and she used the well alot. if you put any mage from this list into azhara's position ( with access to the well ) they will become even stronger than azhara. she might have the knowledge, and she might still be heck powerful, but we have never seen a 100% medivh, and his feats ALREADY match well with hers. in the raid she almost never uses arcane. she has knowledge far beyond 99.9999% of mages hence she can block teleportation and all that but she doesn't have any combat with it.
Queen Azshara was and still is the most powerfull mage on Azeroth, she was able to enhance her beauty, reduce her magical aura, force demons to fight for her even against their kin, she could only be surpassed by Kil'jaeden/Archimonde or she could even be their equal, when the well exploded she was able to create a protective shield around her palace protecting her and her highborne from the arcane-twisted waters of the ocean, with only one swet falling...Azshara the one true leader of the Kaldorei, all hail The Daughter of the Moon, the Flower of Life.
The Light of Lights! She's for sure the strongest mage on Azeroth, and no one has even seen her for 10,000 years lol.
I actually wanted to hear something that they have achieved as a mage, Rhonin with that blue fire potion burning the demons, Jaina created the Mass teleport spell, Antonidas made that anti-undead barrier, not just a simple one, Aegwynn used one, if not the most powerful enchantment I've ever seen....when she sunk the iles she said that NO magic from Azeroth could ever reveal the iles, ofc she forgot Fell, but still. Azshara dezerves no.1
not gonna lie... ive read STRANGEST mages in world of warcraft... i got pretty excited over it so i guess i would like to see that as a video :D
Hey man, I really enjoy your work. Could you do a top 10 strongest rogues in the whole Warcraft Lore ?
I'm surprised not seeing Anasterian Sunstrider among these, former wielder of Felo'melorn!
Great vid anyways :) enjoying all of your vids so much
If this is going to be a series - i'd like to see how you rate the player characters in terms of power level to their peers. I can imagine mages being lower down, but classes like hunters for example, wouldn't they be one of the most powerful hunters in the lore?
Where is Elisande?
You forgot Kel’Thuzad! Maybe the most powerful mage ever existed before he became The Lich of the undead force. Most likely invincible.
I don't know if you can count malygos as a Mage but at his peak of power he was almost if not as powerful as queen aszhara
The final bit on Medivh, that vision of Medivh was not Medivh, but an imposter dreadlord trying to fool Khadgar. Though the actual Medivh seems to have left some stuff behind for Khadgar in terms of memories/visions.
yeah I was like "noo thats a dreadlord dude"
PS, Jaina Proudmore is also a dreadlord
He was talking about the Return to Karazhan instance not Harbingers - Khadgar, mate.
Glad i got some lore on # 10
Great video but in my opinion:
1 Medan (M. mage and shaman. Being young he attained the power of a guardian) and Azshara
Because of the antiquity she has, she is more familiar with magic and therefore has great power.
2 I think they equate Medivh(M. mage and warlock) and his mother.
3 Alodi.
4 Kaelthas (mage, warrior and warlock) But the story is very brutal with him.
5 Rhonin and Illidan(I. in old times).
6 Kadgar (By the knowledge that Medivh gave him).
7 Antonidas.
and many others...
Antonidas?
Aegwynn?
Video content is great but my god. Agegwyn? Antunius? Sargharish?
cool video as always
Woo woo. Another great video!
Thalyssra, Elisande, Aethas and Kael'thas are honourable mentions
Also I feel like Azshara shouldn't count
Yes, definitely, except Kael'thas that I didn't put because he is mostly a warlock, well as before he died.
tikitarget Azshara should definitely count she's one of the most powerful natural sorcerers without any guardian or Nightwell powers. And nah Aethas not really all that powerful to be on the list. Everyone listed I feel is more powerful than him plus he's still relatively young
Gary Taylor yeah true, it's just she is on a completely different level to the others, it's almost unfair haha
Doronsmovies you should do more vids like this! For paladins or warlocks or whatever
Always remember to pour one out for our man Ronin. Man Died a hero.
Where does the playable mage fit into this list, considering their story in Legion?
"A rank of archmage, which very few can ever achieve" - have been in Dalaran today. You know.
Number 9: *Deep inhale* CITIZENS OF DALARAN!
love this channel. hahahahaa because he's focusing on facts with supporting evidence. keep up the good work
Why didn't Kael'thas make the list?
Because he was essentially a warlock by the end. However if he was on the list he would definitely be high up.
Doronsmovies what about meryl?
What Andreas said Meryl is way more powerfull than the likes of Rommath,
Kael became a warlock ? Never saw him using fel magic or summoning demons. He stills casts mage spells in magisters' terrace.
By the end, he was super charged on Fel magic, I mean, he had a fel crystal in his chest >_>, Meryl was also a warlock for a time.
Great vid.
Please Make top 10 paladins and top 10 priests :)
hey man it's been awhile for me, great video. I would add the human mage that turned himself "undead" like a thousand years before Lich King. I can't find his name, I think he makes an appearance at the start of the mage class hall quest.
Can you do Top 10 strongest Priest/Priestess in WoW?
I feel like Aegwynn and Elodi should be much higher on that list. Not many can claim they went up against a titan (even if they were just an avatar) and Elodi STARTED the guardians. While Aegwynn and Medivh were guardians during their life, their power was transfered down from past generations. Alodi started it which means he originally held that power. That should put him at #1. Azshara and Elisande both took their power from an outside source.
Uh, no. Azshara was on the same level as Kil Jaden and close to Sargares when she was still a Night Elf. with Old God power up she is number 1.
Honestly, this list isn't very good. No one except Azshara should be above any Guardian. You also completely missed a Guardian. I also can't see how Rommath made this list over his predecessor who he would've never would've gotten the title from had it not been for the Scourge. I don't even know why Modera is on this list or what even put her above the other council members. She's no where near one of the top 10 Mages. My list would go:
1. Azshara
2. Medivh
3. Aegwynn
4. Scavell
5. Alodi
6. Khadgar
Those are all the people who are Guardian level except Khadgar. I added Khadgar because he's more than qualified by multiple sources (Medivh, Alodi, the Burning Legion) to become Guardian but refuses. I ordered them based off the fact that each Guardian should be more powerful than the last since each Guardian builds on the power of the Tirisfalen power during their tenure and passes it on to the next for the cycle to continue.
After those 6 it's debatable who would come next but a few honorable mentions I'd like to list would be: Jaina Proudmoore (numerous feats, former Leader of the Kirin Tor), Antonidas (former Leader of the Kirin Tor), Rhonin (numerous feats, former Leader of the Kirin Tor), Nielas Aran (able to contend with Aegwynn with the help of Tirisgarde artifacts), Belo'vir Salonar (the last truly qualified Grand Magister of Silvermoon), Meitre (the first to master and wield the power of Aluneth, his teachings became the foundation for learning magic millennia after he died). I'm probably missing a few more candidates too.
This should be renamed to "Most Important Mages"
So I was wondering, would Meryl Felstorm/Winterstorm be strong enough to be on this list and if so, is he classed as a warlock or a mage?
1. Queen Azshara 2. Lei'Shen 3. Aegwynn 4. Medivh 5. Alodi 6. Khadgar 7. Antonidas 8.Kael'thas 9. Rhonin 10. Jaina Proudmoore
Maybe Millhouse Manastorm 10. :)
Cool vid... also does anyone know if there is a transmog like rommath's? Sick of wearing skirts. May not be Rommaths clothes but the mog at 0:36
I think if we’re talking pre-N’zoth Aszhara I’d give a slight edge to peak Medivh.
i think its worth noting that medivh at his full (which we dont know) can easily be over azhara especially after she lost her magic pool. and if saying that mannaroth feared azhara, well DEATHWING feared medivh ( at least before his peak of power) and since im not much of a book reader, can someone tell me weather 10000 yrs is longer than the guardians existance, cause if so, then medivh has more power in general too :P, besides i mean the guardians were empowered by the strongest mages and the staff preserved that powe, so technically medivh has alot more power given the lots and lots of guardians. maybe using it too much can destroy medivh? idk but with the info we have about both characters i can confidently say medivh is the strongest mage in the wow franchise cause we dont have much ( if any) worth noting achievements of azhara other than her being a quite talentd mage and having a pool of magic. bro medivh was able to open a portal on his own whilst gul'dan needed thousands to be sacrificed to him, and i believe fel is stronger than arcane, so just imagine how strong he is XD. his tower links all ley line seals of azeroth too! does that make up as a mini well of eternity? also agewyn ( which we know is weker than medivh) was able to ressurect, which isn't in the limits of us mages. medivh also foresaw the future back in w3, cause how did he know the legion will come alot before they made their first apprearance with tyrande?
also aitesh (his staff) is a fraction stronger than frostmourne ( this is inassured info correct me if im wrong, this dosent rly relate just saying :P )
EDIT: agywen killed the avatar of sargeras using aitesh, and with one ritual summoned the great tower out of the very fabric of reality, and that too was bestowed to medivh. more debate coming soon :D
Looks like you made your point
I like ashara but medivh's story is way interesting
As someone who has read every book, and written much of the wowpedia articles on these characters, let me help you out.
Azshara has been alive for thousands of years more than the existence of the Guardians. Her entire reign as Queen was longer than the entirety of the Guardians, and all that time she was infusing with the powers of the Well. Also, while Deathwing was utterly corrupted by N'Zoth, Azshara was powerful enough to resist. As I am about to explain, Azshara is also on par with Deathwing in terms of raw destructive power.
Azshara was able to shatter a pillar of creation, destroy the zone of azsuna, and for some time hold back the imploding waters from the well of eternity. If you read up on the amount of force caused by a regular tsunami (10^17 joules), and then imagine how much more powerful the sundering is, then you have an idea of what she was trying to hold back. Also remember she did this with out the Well of Eternity since it had already imploded at this point. When she channels this offensively, its like having nuclear bombs level of power, like what she did to Azsuna.
@@Aureilius2112 Is she died? cause in BFA, they killed her & N'Zoth took her
If you include dead character krasus is above all except perhaps malygos azshara and illidan
Krasus makes Illidan look like a rank amateur in spellcrafting,,,
Γκρηνιάρης # pre skull of guldan yes , after skull of gulden illidan was just supreme, especially if you read the novel
Krasus is a dragon, I said that I would only add humanoid mages.
Hey, Doron. I recently racechanged to troll (they seem way more fancy to RP compared to pandaren). I watched your how to RP (troll and rogue). Do you have any suggestion on mounts I could use, that got some higher quality compared to the raptors? Thanks.
man I love your vids
ah and can you do the origin of the worgens
Thanks, I appreciate it. :)
2:10 CITIZENS OF DALARAN, RAISE YOUR EYES TO THE SKIES AND OBSERVE
Aszhara stronger than Medivh and Aegwynn? ;o You must be joking, all of u. Aszhara was in par with Kil'jaeden (prolly archimonde too) She wouldnt touch any of the above. With her old god buff though we dont know.
Good lord, your pronunciation of Antonidas's name is so incorrect lol
Damn you are right, haven't noticed that before. Called him Anton-e-dus since Warcraft 3.
Same for Alodi lol
also tome of sargeras damn i didnt know that guy was an author aswell as the commander of the burning legion :P
King Anasterian could have been on the list. Even if he was old as f***, this guy was able to put up a good fight against Arthas.
Hey Doron. I just started playing again after quitting back in December so I have a lot of videos to catch up on as I grind away.
My question is did you consider Grand Magistrix Ellisande for this list? I think she is quite the powerful mage.
You forgot to say that Modera was in Dalaran when Garithos ordered to execute Kael and the blood elves and she didn't do anything.
Oh and Kosak said that Aethas was at the same level as Jaina and khadgar and Rommath is more powerful that Aethas so that means Rommath is more powerful than Jaina.
Alodi should be higher on the list, he started the order of the guardians which at the time was a big feat and had natural power compared to other mages
That is an unusual pronunciation (not saying it is incorrect or anything), but I had always pronounced and thought it was Anton-Nigh-dus
@10:22 I have never seen that image of Jaina, she looks crazy and scary.
How long ago did Arthas become the Lich King. I have the book, but it doesnt tell me why
I still think medivh is the strongest since he stopped deathwing from destroying Azeroth. Not to mention if his mom could attack sargares then for sure he could. But as you mentioned we never got to see his full power since for example he only killed deathing with a few others with only a few spells.
Medivh didn't kill Deathwing?
Why not Anasterian ? Or Elisande ? Or Kael'thas ? :/
During their respective lifetime they were at least above Jaina or even Kadghar in term of power.
Above jaina definitely not. This video analyzes characters during their prime, and jaina is currently the strongest mage alive. This video itself is bullshit and wrong by itself because jaina is top 5 strongest CHARACTERS (not only mages, and not counting titan and God stuff) in warcraft lore
Where does the Mage-Character stand on this list? :o
Also, can you make one of these only for warlocks? I would love to know what other powerful warlocks there are aside of Gul'dan, Archimonde and Kil'jaeden.
A very promising future indeed at 2:18 *giggety*
Can you make a Video about the bloodsail buccaneers? I can't find much information about them. :)
Actually. you're wrong in one point. Aegwynn didnt actually create ''Tomb of Sargeras''. She just sealed the avatar of sargers into ancient Night Elven, temple of elune. And it wasn't mediv that appeared to khadgar, it was a dreadlord in disguised. :S dude you really have to man up with your info
What about Illidan and Kael'thas? Both of them were extremmely powerful, well Illidan still is, now that he's back. And what about Aethas?
Read pinned comment or what he said at the beginning of the video.
But Kael lived and died as a mage. He may have dabbled with the fel, but he never became a warlock. As for Illidan, he may be a demon hunter, but both in the game and in the book he continued to practice sorcery...a lot. You may say that he is a mage/demon hunter. xD
Illidan started as a druid and became a demon hunter later on so this invalidates from this list.
As for Kael, he was using fel energy to keep himself alive after his defeat in Tempest Keep, which makes him kinda warlocky but I would still add him to this list
Also I'm pretty sure Rommath is more powerfull than at least Antonidas
finally a video...
Didnt knew dreadlords could be mages.
what about Malygos and Kalecgos? they are also mages i think
Yeah Medivh didn't offer to give Khadgar the powers of the guardian. That was a dreadlord pretending to be Medivh.
This is a very good list! BUT you are missing 3 mages on this list on my opinion! 1st you forgot about Kael Thas, even though he transformed like you said you wont include such characters, he was still somehow a mage, and at his power peak in BC he was surely on the level, probably even stronger than jaina now, The next one is Mor Gok, the King of the Ogres and their strongest Mage surly deserves a spot on this list, even Kadghar said that he has enormous powers. Lastly and Nr. 3 ist Elisande which some already did mention here, i think she is also around that Nr. 4-5 spot
How about first arcanist Thalyssra(although she claimed she couldn't able to defeat jaina)
I stopped at Rhonin to say that I don't care who you have at 8-1 but Rhonin is easily in top 3. You need to correct the order 0.o NOW.
What about Gog, Cho'gal, Kael'thas. Why havent they got a spot on top 10?
good vid ty
Ok i agree with most of this list, the only aspect of the list that i am not agreeing with as much was the Jaina Khadgar placements. I personally think they should be switched around, its very objective as it was stated in the video, but i think that Jaina is the strongest mage in terms of sheer power.
what about first arcanist thalyssra? or elisande?
How about the strongest shamans? Or druids? Great video btw.
Deus Vult shamans is thrall and others lol
+mohamed ashoush Thrall is a WEAK orc
How can you say that Modera is better than Anthonidas or Rhonin?
Where is Hansol ?????
Do a top 10 warriors please!!!
I wonder...Can you give exact Jaina age?
Around 35 in 2017.
Shes a bit younger than Artahs,who like Thrall,had 24 in 2003 when WC3 game was out.
As of Legion, she is 35.
Where would Kael´thas be placed here before he betrayed his people?
where is jaina now , what is she doing , any idea?
how ya gonna say medivh is higher but 2 earlier u say "even medivh thought khadger will be stronger than him" lol that didnt make sense to me but other than that really enjoyed the vid haha more entertaining than actually playing WoW :)
Because Khadgar never took the mantel of Guardian, meaning he never got the powers of Guardian. If he had he may have been stronger.
You guy know that tyrande dueled queen Azshara,and prince kaelthas was also a highborne mage,who probably later claimed the power to summon phoenixes and the sun power wtf,I don't think he is weaker than Azshara,just she is arcane he is fire.And Jaina is op frost xD
Why is kael'thas not on this list,even ilidan admire his magic skills,and lady vashj aswell.And later on whit fell magic he can fight Azshara void magic.
Datwing thats a new one
Antonidas didnt convinced Jaina to flee though..
Elisande needs to be on the list
Oh, man Medivh the Last Guardian & Queen Azshara, 1v1, best duel ever
while Medivh is powered by a mad titan and Azshara is powered by the strongest Old God. Would be badass.
Yeah! It would be a very badass fight!! But i Think azshara would win tho.
The way he pronounces antonidas triggers me to no ends
Man no mortal mage (Jaina, Khadgar) could take on guardian (Alodi)... otherwise cool video :)
Make a video of non humanoid mages
I disagree with the last statement about the number one slot as i and a lot of others consider the player the be the strongest of there chosen class.
guys Jaina Proudmore is a dreadlord
What? Where is Wilfred Fizzlebang, master summoner!
I completely agree that Queen Azshara should be at the top of the list. She's probably the most terrifying aspect of the naga in general, just the thought that they are backed by one of the most monstrous beings on Azeroth.
what about meryl felstorm?
No love for First Arcanist Thalyssra?
Maciej Puchalski we just met her and we don't know how she matches up against other mages. She's relatively new, do we truly know how powerful she even is?
Seems legit. But its my fav character from Legion and prolly one of fav-est from whole wow, so you now know why I reacted that way :D
The recent appearance in Karazhan wasn't actually Medivh, but a Dreadlord trying to corrupt Khadgar.
what is this wierd human model i have never seen it ?
You have lacked kael'thas, Thalyssra, Elisande, the blue dragons and Norgannon.