Who Is The Most Powerful Mage in Warcraft?

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  • Out of all the mages who is the most powerful mage in World of Warcraft?
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    Mages are one of the most versatile classes in all of warcraft. They utilize the arcane and can twist it into various forms. Obvious to anyone the titans are the strongest arcane users and are far above anyone else, but for this video I wanted to cover the mortal creatures and who the most powerful mage is.
    Talking about the Eredar and Argus, the night elven empire and Queen Azshara and the progression of magical learning from highborne to high elves, humans and now to almost all other races. Looking at notable characters like Aegwynn, Medivh, Jaina Proudmoore, Khadgar and many others.
    So who is the most powerful mage in warcraft?
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  • @Doronsmovies
    @Doronsmovies  4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Who do you guys this is the most powerful mage outside of the titans and the other god-like creatures? (Vote in the poll). Also, I'll get to picking the winner for the Gamivo giveaway and will be contacting him within the next few days.

    • @klapacjuszanimomon8501
      @klapacjuszanimomon8501 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mayby now the most powerfull Shaman or druid ?

    • @Algeront
      @Algeront 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Kel’Thuzad ofc

    • @Mystra
      @Mystra 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Aegwynn

    • @klapacjuszanimomon8501
      @klapacjuszanimomon8501 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I think that Medivh is mutch more powerful then Jaina

    • @klapacjuszanimomon8501
      @klapacjuszanimomon8501 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@vindicatornessa5389 but khadgar is not older then 40 u know?

  • @HavocHounds1988
    @HavocHounds1988 4 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Azshara was toying with us in the fight in the Eternal Palace. She was buying time to drain the power from the Heart of Azeroth to shatter the chains on N'Zoth's prison. She wasn't really focused on fighting us fully.

    • @Aureilius2112
      @Aureilius2112 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      You’re 100% correct. I wish he would recognize that fact. I don’t know how he can refer to Jaina being on the same level when Jaina refers to Azshara as the most powerful mage ever known.

  • @ninaloveray
    @ninaloveray 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Jaina more powerful than Azshara? Jaina would have died if she hadn’t teleported out. Azshara not only wasn’t interested in fighting the players but she was focusing on the heart of Azeroth. Which the players were empowered by the heart and it made them very powerful That’s why they were able to defeat Azshara.

    • @icenice9468
      @icenice9468 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I love jaina but Azshara is more powerfull. Btw Jaina > Kagar

    • @sauwensvk7589
      @sauwensvk7589 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@icenice9468 Daddy Khadgar > Jaina, fite me 1v1

    • @icenice9468
      @icenice9468 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sauwensvk7589 never

  • @Aureilius2112
    @Aureilius2112 4 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    This video is a huge yikes. As one of the people responsible for writing much of the wowpedia articles for Azshara and Jaina, I find this to be a huge misinterpretation. How can you think Jaina is on the same level as Azshara when Jaina herself called Azshara the most powerful mage in Azeroth’s History.
    Also the fact it took Jaina, Lorthemar, Shandris, and Thalyssra plus the combined forces of the horde and alliance to fight her while her actual goals were to just drain our heart of Azeroth, not to kill us. Jaina even questioned why she didn’t kill us all immediately as we arrived. These are the reasons we could actually fight her.

    • @BunnyAce
      @BunnyAce 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Well... you cannot consider azshara a mage anymore really in recent events... it's like if you considered Garosh a warrior in the siege of Orgrimmar when he taped into the power of the heart of Y'shaarj. Also back in the days the well of eternity was a big reason why Azshara was so strong and it is mentioned in this video that Azshara back in the days would be the most powerful mage but no one can really know what Jaina's powers would be like if she had access to the same resources as Azshara. Also while true that Jaina said that Azshara was the most powerful mage in Azeroth's History, it doesn't mean that it is the case, Jaina is not going to go out of her way to rank herself against Azshara if the conditions were right, she is not that much avid for power compared to Azshara so i wouldn't be surprised if by default Jaina would not even consider herself to be capable of being stronger than Azshara who was like a mage LEGEND. (a bit like Netero in HxH would say that Pitou is stronger even though we actually know he's being humble, for people who know this anime.)

    • @Aureilius2112
      @Aureilius2112 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@BunnyAce Really? Go look up the abilities Azshara casts in her Eternal Palace fight. Arcane Missiles, Arcane Mastery, Arcane Orb, Arcane Destruction, Arcane Echo. Those abilities still scream mage to me.

    • @BunnyAce
      @BunnyAce 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Aureilius2112 it doesn't matter, it's the same reason why he didn't include people like aegwynn and medivh, what spells do you think they cast? do you think that is azshara's power alone?

    • @Aureilius2112
      @Aureilius2112 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@BunnyAce Yes.

    • @BunnyAce
      @BunnyAce 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Aureilius2112 if you could by any chance no ignore 90% of a message only to take into account only one thing from each of my messages that would be appreciated.

  • @RightHipHopOnly
    @RightHipHopOnly 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I think Azshara was naturally gifted to understand magic and that's why she was the best mage. It would take much more time for Jaina to examine and to start using the well of eternity as a primary source of magic because that's how humans approach magic in the first place. She would eventually die researching the well and just write books about it.

    • @HavocHounds1988
      @HavocHounds1988 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I agree, I think Azshara was and is the most powerful mage ever. Before she was empowered by N'Zoth she was far more powerful than Mannoroth, and he believed the only spell casters that could have rivaled her was Archimonde and Kil'jaeden.

    • @Aureilius2112
      @Aureilius2112 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I have no idea how this guy thinks Jaina is on the same level. Jaina herself refers to Azshara in Nazjatar as “the most powerful sorcerer this world has ever known”. If that isn’t a clear cannon confirmation that Azshara is on another level than Jaina then I don’t know what is...

    • @Mystra
      @Mystra 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HavocHounds1988 100% at least we know the truth, this video is incorrect

  • @uther627
    @uther627 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Jaina with "her" power. uuhh... I guess. Tho Khadgar's skill in long-distance teleportation and ability to RIP PORTALS TO DIFFERENT TIMELINES should not be understated.

    • @Mystra
      @Mystra 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@vindicatornessa5389 Teleportation is different from other magic, how many times you can teleport isn't a metric for power. Also quality over quantity, it's a lot more impressive to open up portals to different timelines than just another place in Azeroth in real time. Also Medivh admits to Khadgar's power.

    • @Mystra
      @Mystra 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@vindicatornessa5389 Wait so if you use some sort of tool or outside help it doesn't count? Is that what you mean with Medivh? Or do you mean because he was influenced by Sargeras he wasn't being honest? If anything, that means it's more impressive as Sargeras admits Khadgar power then, not just Medivh. That's even better. Either way, it's a plus for Khadgar.
      Furthermore, just because you are drawing on another power or using a tool. You still have that power, so it doesn't make a character weaker and therefor is irrelevant. Otherwise Queen Azshara wouldn't count.
      It's okay to like Jaina but Khadgar is just the stronger mage. He just isn't a crazy hot head like Jaina, he doesn't need to flaunt his power.
      Khadgar isn't even the only stronger mage stronger than Jaina either, we got Aegwynn, Medivh, Alodi, Elisande, Azshara, etc. I mean she's pretty overrated tbh both as a character and in power. That's just another flaw of Blizzard, push characters who used to be great way too much and in a wrong direction. And that's how we got the current obnoxious Jaina and Sylvanas. Those characters are just the tip of the icebeard of bad writing as well. (talking about recently, last couple of years)

    • @Mystra
      @Mystra 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@vindicatornessa5389 Yes but I don't agree with his reasoning on that. I mean, it's fine to disagree. It even contradicts his earlier top 10 mages video. Where she wasn't even top 3 and Khadgar was above her. She was the leader, but he was boosted from Kirin Tor not just Jaina. Also we don't know how much power he needed from them or how much was just from him. So to me that's an argument with too much speculation involved. But still, he was the one who cast the spell. Yes, Khadgar is more powerful. Embrace it.

    • @Mystra
      @Mystra 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Uther I'd be interested to hear your take on our little discussion

    • @Mystra
      @Mystra 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vindicatornessa5389 A war? There's no yelling or insults used by either of us. If anything it's one of the most civil discussions on TH-cam lol

  • @silverspear21
    @silverspear21 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Queen Azshara with the well of eternity.
    Kael'thas Sunstrider with the Sunwell.
    Elisande with the Nightwell.
    Jaina Proudmoore with the focusing Iris.
    Khadgar with Atiesh
    Millhouse Manastorm with Millificent Millhouse...............
    My money is on the power couple.

    • @silverspear21
      @silverspear21 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Christoper Putt you forgot that elisande is dead so is kael. I know the well of eternity is not around anymore.
      It is a hypothetical list and I consider Azshara to be more powerful with the well versus bfa with N'zoths power.

    • @shakirashipslied9721
      @shakirashipslied9721 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Christoper Putt Yep, she did that.

    • @Mystra
      @Mystra 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Aegwynn and Medivh are chopped liver? I wouldn't put them above Azshara but they deserve a mention.

    • @silverspear21
      @silverspear21 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mystra Aegwynn is powerful and I am not sure what she used to augment her powers like the others did. Medivh is a bit of a cheater since he was half Sargeras so he would stomp all of them easy if he wanted to. With Aegwynn I omitted because she got her powers from others and not necessarily from an artifact that I can recall.

    • @phugindomas
      @phugindomas 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@silverspear21 why would you say half sargeras? He was possessed, not a hybrid. Azshara is also stronger than him in all states even if only a little. But if we wanna be technical, Medan wipes the floor with all of the characters on this list.

  • @lauriallantorni3761
    @lauriallantorni3761 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The murloc casters are the more powerfull mages in Azeroth.

  • @fidassino4611
    @fidassino4611 4 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    I think Kaelthas would definitely be up there.. I think he was stronger than Khadgar

    • @Polloles
      @Polloles 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Agreed, he should be one of the top ones. Not sure if he was more powerful than Khadgar, but he was definitely one of the best ones

    • @fidassino4611
      @fidassino4611 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Polloles well I wouldnt be sure about it either... But if you consider that Kael is a high/blood elf I would think that he is older and more experienced mage than Khadgar

    • @fidassino4611
      @fidassino4611 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Due to those extra years practising arcane

    • @Mystra
      @Mystra 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So was Aegwynn and Medivh

    • @Weffi76
      @Weffi76 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      also Lei shen, he kind of was a mage also, considering he did beat Ra-den.

  • @leearm30
    @leearm30 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I respectfully disagree. Even after recent events I’d still say Azshara is the strongest mage. I would like to see a 1v1 with her and Jaina tho. 😦

    • @Mystra
      @Mystra 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Jaina don't stand a chance she needed so many allies to fight Azshara. Azshara could honestly have killed us all as soon as she arrived but for plot reasons cuz Blizzard don't know how to write, she didn't.

    • @stefankick7000
      @stefankick7000 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Again he said : With the same power source as Ashara, jaina would be stronger. Also you can't ashara count as a mage anymore..

  • @badrinath5306
    @badrinath5306 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Well measuring raw strength even with the well I will put my money on medhiv.For starters he is still around and who knows how terrifyingly strong.also his actions causes echoes something only a few of Azharas spells could.While Medhiv created some when he was having a party or watching a stage show unfold.Jaina is pathetic in this question.Even with the whole power of the focusing iris all she could do was summon a few sea elementals to serve her unwillingly.and trust me as impressive as a wave of elementals might seem subjecting elementals aren't that amazing of a feat compared to burning a dragon alive and making him your eternal slave in a few seconds.
    Aegewyn is a bet but she did loose to medhiv.even if it were her power .Medhiv is way better and jaina doesn't even hold a candle to him.And if we are taking jaina maybe consider some of the nightfallen who freaking manipulated time with a power source when compared to Jainas little tidal wave.

  • @NeilsonBuntowa
    @NeilsonBuntowa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The fact alone that azshara block jaina from teleporting says a lot.

  • @simonenriquez5459
    @simonenriquez5459 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    What about the migthy Milhouse manastorm?

  • @DrumsandOther
    @DrumsandOther 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sry but this Video is pretty weak... No Kael'Thas Elisande Kalecgos if you count dead and alive... Jaina is realy just the boring answer to everything. Also she dindn't safed the alliance against the whole Horde army... the cleared the Gas with frost... even in the end battle she bearly killed anyone. Story telling or not... Yes she is very Powerfull, but my bets would go to any Blood High or Night Elf against her. She is a maybe 30 year old human and not an 10000 year old Elf... Also Khadgar would be my guess is more powerfull than her. She learned from Kael Thas and Antonidas, Khadgar from Medihv... So Gameplay Story wise Jaina yeah, but Book and Comic wise no...

  • @Sin_cities
    @Sin_cities 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yikes, what kinda pointless video is this, it’s already been stated VERY RECENTLY that Azshara is the strongest mage on Azeroth, and it’s also been drilled into our heads every chance blizzard got, now you can believe what you want but fact is what blizzards says something is, is cannon they make the story we don’t.

  • @daemoncaster4152
    @daemoncaster4152 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Can’t be jaina because in game queen Azshara blocked jaina from teleporting out of nazjatar and jaina said she have never experienced anything like Azshara’s magic before

  • @kaelthas9970
    @kaelthas9970 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think this video is just hidden appreciation post to Jaina. If you discredit Azshara for having Well of Eternity, you have to mention that Jaina needed Focusing Iris to destroy Orgrimmar. Also, Azshara fought against Jaina, Thalyssra and Champion of Azeroth at once, while trying to free an old god.

  • @amonh9375
    @amonh9375 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Did u heard about Vurtne?

  • @anordinaryday5890
    @anordinaryday5890 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Azshara was able to temporarily hold back the oceans from completely submerging her city after the Well of Eternity imploded, pretty good feat of strength imo

  • @RavenDunbar
    @RavenDunbar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think my Blood Elf Mage, Levi, is the most powerful mage! LOL ... But seriously, if we were to look at it from a game perspective instead of a lore perspective, I feel like the Player Character might be the most powerful in the long run, but I'm not sure.
    Lore-wise, there certainly are a lot of awesome mages... I feel like it's hard to really pinpoint one as the most powerful.

  • @Saimeren
    @Saimeren 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Norgannon is the single most powerful Arcane magic user in all of Azeroth's universe.
    Aman'Thul would be second.
    Then you have beings who wield the Titan's power; we're talking Malygos, with Kalecgos coming in behind him.
    After that we have every single other blue dragon.. Ever..
    Then we have the rest of the Titan Pantheon.
    Then we have the rest of the Dragon Aspects.
    Finally we get to the mortals. It's been stated by many characters many times, that Azshara is the most powerful mortal Mage, period. If you're strictly talking mortals, she's your girl. End of story.
    Next we have Archimonde. He stands above the Guardians, but below Azshara.
    After him, we have the Guardians or Tirisfal. Aegwynn being first, Medivh being second.
    Then it goes Kel'Thuzad (As a Lich, not a Human)
    Jaina
    Kael'Thas
    Khadgar
    Thalyssra
    Then every other Mage. I lump them all together because they don't matter. This includes Rhonin, Antonidas, Aethas Sunreaver, the player character, and any Red or Bronze drakes we see using Arcane magic.
    One honorable mention would have to go to Illidan. We was born with great power, and a great affinity for Arcane magic. He was a prodigy, and unfortunately his training was cut short and he chose to become a Demon Hunter. We can only speculate how far he could have gone if he had practiced his Arcane skills over those 10,000 years. I doubt he would be Azshara level, but he would definitely be above the Guardians of Tirisfal.

    • @Saimeren
      @Saimeren 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Anzu Wyliei How so, what?

    • @Saimeren
      @Saimeren 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Anzu Wyliei The Titans are the living embodiment of the living essence known as "The Arcane" just like the Void Lords are the living essence of the "Void" and the Naaru are the living essence of "The Light". (Although it's speculated that Elune is the embodiment of "The Light" and the Naaru are more akin to the old gods.)
      The Titans are pure arcane energy, and Norgannon is the spell weaver. He's the first being to manipulate the energy of "The Arcane" into spells. He has the strongest connection to it over any other being in existence.
      Aman'Thul is the "all father" of the titans, and is the "first born". He's comes in second behind the one who is the embodiment of Arcane energy. He's more powerful in general, but when it comes to actual Arcane magic, and spells, he's only second.

    • @curts7801
      @curts7801 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Anzu Wyliei how so? Titans are the closest entities to Arcane magic in the cosmos. A demon is almost fel incarnate, and a titan is almost arcane incarnate. He’s spot on with the lore.
      As for raw power, Amanthul straight up grabbed Y’Shaarj, universally agreed to be the most powerful of the Old Gods, and ripped him off the face of the planet, and CRUSHED HIM IN HIS HAND.
      Sargeras, before he gathered the demons, embraced the Fel, and founded the Legion, was technically stronger still. Sargeras split a planet in half, killing a world soul/unborn titan, because he saw that it was poisoned by Old God corruption.
      I’m thinking now, by feat of killing Norgannon and Amanthul, by definition, Sargeras is the strongest arcane wielder in the cosmos.

    • @TheBlaert
      @TheBlaert 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not a chance that Azshara is/was more powerful that the Guardians. And to even suggest that Illidan could have been a more powerful mage than the Guardians is simply ridiculous

    • @Saimeren
      @Saimeren 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheBlaert Is it? Azshara has literally been stated by multiple people to be the strongest mortal mage to ever live. That means stronger than the Guardians.
      Illidan; like Azshara; was gifted at a very young age, and was seen as a prodigy, much like Malfurion was with his connection to Nature. Illidan gave up that life for his pursuit in Fel magic to use the Demon's own power against him. If Illidan continued to practice Arcane magic over the course of 10,000 years, I believe he would have been stronger than the Guardians.
      What makes you think the Guardians were as powerful as Azshara or Illidan's potential?

  • @Anachronos97
    @Anachronos97 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I still believe that Azshara is way more powerful than Jaina, even without the well since other highborne also had access to its power but still they were inferior to Azshara in terms of power. As for the fact that we defeated her in a raid, Azshara was toying with the us players for she needed our heart of azeroth to power the console and open N'zoth's prison.

  • @RatchildUK
    @RatchildUK 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Got to be Azshara.

  • @shaherghrewati5266
    @shaherghrewati5266 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    the guardians were not just a combination of random mages noo, they also had the powers of the previous guardian via atiesh, which is the second strongest mage staff there ever was ( other than aluneth ) guldan bowed before medivh WITHOUT knowing sargeras was there, DW was scared of medivh, and he also had secrets not even the kirin tor knew ( they sent kahdgar to him to learn these secrets .) he was the only BEING to ever , lorewise, defeat a blue dragon by magic , because they are practically immune to it. ( outside gameplay .) he appeared weaker because he kept fighting sargeras over control, and resisted him whenever sargeras wanted to do something bad such as killing the dragon, or hurting his mother.
    to really show you how strong he is, the avatar of sargeras is a bit weaker than ragnaros, and ragnaros himself required two of the strongest titan keepers to push him back ( and they only won because they were MADE to resist fire ). jaina took the power from lei'shen, who in turn, took it out of a depressed and weak titan keeper. that is VERY much less than what a guardian has dealt with. azhara, medivh, and agywen are all close to power, while literally everyone else is tiers below.
    another example. when medivh was surrounded by lothar and the others, he began to transform to sargeras HIMSELF. it didnt say ANYWHERE that it was the avatar. MEDIVH WAS FREAKING SUMMONING SARGERAS XD. i wont go into a debate if medivh is equal to the well of eternity but that is INSANE.
    medivh at the end of WC3 apparently, and do not cite me on this, went beyond the timeways and traveled the alternate realities, because it was shown in a novel that thrall met medivh while time travelling. meddivh knows time magic SOMEHOW too. he escaped death, his mother , at a horrible state, managed to ressurrect even though she only knows ARCANE not light magic. ( the only character to ever ressurrect that is not a light user )
    he might come back in the shadowlands, but putting him as low as ( a combination of random mages ) and putting jaina highest is kinda a bad idea

  • @jeremyguzman7936
    @jeremyguzman7936 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Most powerful priest? Calia, Alonsus, Tyrande, Velen, Anduin or Talanji?

    • @levinmartinus8024
      @levinmartinus8024 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It's most likely Velen. He is ancient af.

    • @newfacepaula
      @newfacepaula 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      pretty sure tyrande is more of a hunter class than a priest.

    • @twilighthammer2785
      @twilighthammer2785 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      newfacepaula lololol

  • @AndrewPeverells
    @AndrewPeverells 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'd really like to see a most powerful shaman video. It would be very interesting to see who could win between Thrall, Drek'Thar, Ner'Zhul (pre-Lich King, ofc), Nobundo and the others.

  • @brann925
    @brann925 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    No Kel’Thuzad? He never had the strength of ley lines or the well of eternity and yet is the second most powerful necromancer in Azeroth, right hand of the lich king, now immortal and capable of studying forever. He’s pretty fuckin strong, not to mention he has the best voice actor ;)

    • @lostregatto4861
      @lostregatto4861 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah, but he has never been a mage

    • @manofsesame3024
      @manofsesame3024 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lostregatto4861 every necromancer in Warcraft used to be a mage. Just like every death knight used to be a Paladin

  • @phugindomas
    @phugindomas 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love you but your research and knowledge of lore or at least the lack thereof (regarding the powerlevels of characters) shows glaringly here. Please research via game or book content and not through wikipedia's or wowpedia.

  • @strollingpoet
    @strollingpoet 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I keep hearing the “Jaina is powerful enough to destroy Orgrimmar by herself!” She isn’t. She could only do it by tapping into the focusing Iris, the same immensely powerful artifact that was used to destroy Theramor. By that logic, a random mage that once had possession of this artifact would sudden be considered just as powerful as her. Also, she doesn’t have it any longer.

    • @Doronsmovies
      @Doronsmovies  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I do agree with that, I didn't want to get too much into that point in order to not get sidetracked. I don't think just any mage could do it though, my opinion is that the source of magic is the most important part of how powerful a mage is but the ability of a mage determines his potential and how much of that source he can effectively utilize.

    • @Mystra
      @Mystra 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Aegwynn and Medivh
      both more powerful than Jaina

    • @strollingpoet
      @strollingpoet 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Doronsmovies Alright, but now that this source is gone, what does she have now? There was a quest in MoP, where she sent players to take power from Lei Shen's throne. There hasn't been any known result of that powerup (Lei Shen and Raden are both lightning wielders and Jaina just tosses ice about) and that's it.
      Look, I don't argue that Jaina is powerful. It's one of my personal gripes with WoW lore, but if official lore states that Jaina is up there, then I can only nod and write it down. But if she could still be able to drown Orgrimmar, she wouldn't have had any issues with Zandalari fleet. Instead she almost got a huge number of people killed relying on gnomish technology.

    • @strollingpoet
      @strollingpoet 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Mystra I wouldn't count on that. At the moment Blizzard are using Jaina as their flagship. She is going to be buffed and buffed until people get tired of her. It's very possible that she is already stronger than those two... No matter how little sense that makes.

    • @Mystra
      @Mystra 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@strollingpoet I won't accept their bullshit story telling anymore. That's filler to me.

  • @hornhunter6213
    @hornhunter6213 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I wonder if we should count illidan. He was a mage for a very long time, and considerably skilled in enchantments and rituals. Even as a demon hunter he was still a very powerful spellcaster.

    • @sauwensvk7589
      @sauwensvk7589 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Anzu Wyliei is it really a problem tho? I noticed that with these discussions a lot of players would want to see some kind of anime power levels ... It's like in the story itself there are no "classes" ... if Khadgar picks up an axe and starts manually cutting someone down, his arms won't fall off his torso and he doesn't hear a faint voice saying "you must be a different class to use this attack" in his head. When it comes to "peers" comparing their power, asking whether Khadgar is more powerful than Jaina is a stupid question... If Jaina lands a single icicle on Khadgar and it cuts his head off, she wins. If Khadgar manages to set her head on fire with a fireball, he wins. There is a difference between a discussion on whether Azshara could really kill Mannoroth that easily, and a discussion on which hunter gets to his bow and arrow faster. Illidan is a demon hunter, but lorewise that is a title for him... it doesn't physically stop him from casting spells

    • @Levitiy
      @Levitiy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sauwensvk7589 Lore operates much like the real world. Good writers know which game mechanics make sense.

  • @panefe6012
    @panefe6012 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The most powerful mage is Aegwynn, she literally fought avatar of sargeras ALONE and won.

  • @tangofett4065
    @tangofett4065 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just wondering, but where would Antonidas be on this list? WoW doesn’t say much about him anymore so I was just wondering

  • @the_translating_puree
    @the_translating_puree 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well, I think Azshara is more powerful than Jaina, since Azshara is the first mage who touched Arcane, as I know.

  • @PercyTheRogue
    @PercyTheRogue 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I'm a rogue main why did i click so fast... oh right it's a Doronsmovies video thats why.

  • @cesargarcia8299
    @cesargarcia8299 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Do the mogu not count as mortals? I believe it was them who introduced the zandalari to arcane magic, and the zandalari became so proficient at it that *elves* had to steal enchantments from them.

  • @radomirt6001
    @radomirt6001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just no.

  • @catnipthedragqueen8885
    @catnipthedragqueen8885 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Doron love your vids but eternal palace was all a trick.... Btw where is jaina for nzoth

  • @harryvaliente9425
    @harryvaliente9425 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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  • @Cursedhammer21
    @Cursedhammer21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    first off, neither Jaina or Azshara could have gone toe to toe with a fraction of Sargeras' power like Aegwynn did when she entombed his avatar. Azshara THOUGHT she was on the same level of power as Sargeras but there is no way. She wasnt more powerful than N'zoth, which wouldve been wrecked by Sargeras. Sargeras has the power to kill worlds alone, Azshara couldnt save her city. Aegwynn is the most powerful ever. i guess thats as far as my opinion goes tho.

  • @Mavelleana
    @Mavelleana 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lol Jaina being at the same level as Azshara? Not even, remember she destroyed the entire inhabitants of Azsuna cursing the Highborne that lived there making them unable to escape death and turning them into gohst like beings for 10,000 years. I think Azshara is way way way more powerful than Jaina.

  • @smat7388
    @smat7388 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m surprised Kael’thas wasn’t brought up.

  • @FranciscoSantos-lw8nz
    @FranciscoSantos-lw8nz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There is no room for discussion here: Azshara is the face of the mages, the most powerful one to ever exist.
    The only ones comparable are Jaina, Kael’thas, Khadgar, Modera and such but even then I’d say each has their own specializations.

  • @seancooley3839
    @seancooley3839 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Azshara was far more powerful than jaina it's not even a question azshara punked her and called her an apprentice in the eternal palace. Imo jaina doesn't even really rival kael'thalas sunstrider and that is a fight I would have loved to see, jaina punked by a real master

  • @litterbox2010
    @litterbox2010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The game constantly says Azshara is the most powerful mage in existance. So... Pretty sure it's her.

  • @influx8450
    @influx8450 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Actually lore speaking the most powerful mage is Med'an- Medivh's son which is a mage a shaman and a paladin

  • @darkhorde6926
    @darkhorde6926 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The most powerful Shaman in Warcraft please!

    • @cazat
      @cazat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That will be the green Jesus no contest

    • @darkhorde6926
      @darkhorde6926 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cazat hmm True?

    • @newfacepaula
      @newfacepaula 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ner'zhul obviously. I mean he fucking created the Scourge, and "tutored" Gul'dan the Magical Mountain Dew Salesman for fuck sake.

    • @cazat
      @cazat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@newfacepaula that's a bit of curve ball here since Ner'zhul was indeed infamous in these achievements but these aren't really because of his shamanism. The 'most powerful shaman' in strict sense would be Thrall no doubt I mean he is now the aspect of earth for Christ sake.

    • @cazat
      @cazat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@newfacepaula now I think about it Ner'zhul was a schemey fuck who were superceded by both his disciples - Gul'dan and Arthas. He's a pawn of Kil'jaeden in everyway.

  • @lankyeric
    @lankyeric 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cant believe no one mentioned that undead mage in tirisfall that turned himself into a lich

  • @president-for-life
    @president-for-life 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Queen Azshara

  • @TheSkeletonDude
    @TheSkeletonDude 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the answer is medivh

  • @orszagmihaly7752
    @orszagmihaly7752 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Azshara....the rest does not matter,there is no need to argue with others

  • @uther627
    @uther627 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am surprised at no mention of Elisande.

    • @HildrTV
      @HildrTV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same she could control time as good as the brown dragon flight

  • @lordfreezer2850
    @lordfreezer2850 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Isn't it pretty much Azshara? Even Jaina says so.

  • @BeanMan157
    @BeanMan157 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    easily Azshara, the rest fights for second place.

  • @catnipthedragqueen8885
    @catnipthedragqueen8885 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bull

  • @bastalam
    @bastalam 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Medihv hands down and then his son from comics.

  • @rage2k4real
    @rage2k4real 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It will always be the last Guardian : Medivh !

  • @asun1419
    @asun1419 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You know nothing about Queen Azshara lol

  • @filipsaric2745
    @filipsaric2745 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would say Medivh is most powerfull

  • @Reaper777GR
    @Reaper777GR 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is it me or his voice sounds like Pilav

  • @malory2217
    @malory2217 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    there are 2 answers 1 stronger with nexus a strength without nexus
    Magic without external nexus / power transmission
    1.Rhonin
    considering that when the region was first invaded, night elves thought it was demigod and they knew Queen Azshara
    2.Khadgar
    he without focus irsi devoted an explosion to the crater on the dark portal before he had atiesh
    3. first arcanist Thalyssra / jaina
    consider the events Nazjatar should be something on the same powerlvl
    Voralen wenda talk on the blue where Thalyssra only magic for canon do not ask for epidemic disorder what indicates that the ready knows how
    with power source
    Queen Azshara with the well of eternity.
    Elisande with the Nightwell.
    Aegwynn (Power of the Guardian)
    Alodi (power of the guardian) (first guardian)
    Medivh (power of the guardian)
    Kael'thas Sunstrider with the Sunwell.
    Jaina Proudmoore with the focusing iris.
    Khadgar with Atiesh

  • @Tarhunzas
    @Tarhunzas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your lack of lore is disturbing

  • @samuelcapadajr.3063
    @samuelcapadajr.3063 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think you forgot these line.... "Am i to assault the undead nothing but sticks and harsh languages" hahaha

  • @Kunori
    @Kunori 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Regardless of all other reasoning, if you were the main mage character in any story, you get to be far stronger than anyone else.

  • @somerandomjackal8135
    @somerandomjackal8135 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    ??? Wheres Wilfred fizzlebang? Millhouse Manastorm? They're clearly the strongest.

  • @BunnyAce
    @BunnyAce 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When i saw this video i just thought it would be Aegwynn, end of the story but i guess if you think of her as multiple mages it's cheating and i may agree that if Jaina had access to the resources that Azhara had access to, she would be as powerful maybe.

  • @manofsesame3024
    @manofsesame3024 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ronin can be mentioned as well even if he is assumably dead. He is super powerful as well. And don’t forget that Blizzard had brought back many popular characters that were assumed to e dead including by using the light or necromancy.

  • @catnipthedragqueen8885
    @catnipthedragqueen8885 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Aszhara is mage prime

  • @dariusb1764
    @dariusb1764 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lazy video. Sorry

  • @karl1573
    @karl1573 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Med'an is probably the strongest. By far. He's only mentioned briefly and never seen in game but holy shit the power that he contains is massive.

    • @Nankeroo
      @Nankeroo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      He's not canon

    • @rage2k4real
      @rage2k4real 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Nankeroo He is, confirmed by blizzard in 2015

    • @Nankeroo
      @Nankeroo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rage2k4real Why are you commenting on a 2 year old comment? He was made canon in the latest chronicle book anyway. Or well, at least his existence, not the whole c'thun killing powers.

  • @mahboi64
    @mahboi64 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thought Medivh would have been more up there, wasn't he significantly more powerful and Deathwing in his prime? I mean if he wasn't under the influence of Sargeras, that is.

    • @christianrasmussen6759
      @christianrasmussen6759 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Deathwing did not wan't to fight Medivh because he was stronger

    • @HavocHounds1988
      @HavocHounds1988 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I believe the reason him and his mother were not counted is because of the powers of the Guardian of Tirisfal, which is the power of several other mages that pool their power into the Guardian. So yes Medivh was very powerful, but part of that was due to Aegwyn passing the power of the Guardian to him. But I think that power was dissipated once he was killed, and when Aegwyn resurrected him he was still incredibly powerful. So I agree he should have had a little more acknowledgement.

    • @Mystra
      @Mystra 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HavocHounds1988 Yet he counted it in his last video about most powerful mages. And also Elisande should have been mentioned. I've also got to say Azshara is more powerful than Jaina without even N'zoth boost, people don't understand how much force it takes to hold back those tidal waves even for a few seconds.

    • @HavocHounds1988
      @HavocHounds1988 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Mystra I agree completely.

    • @Mystra
      @Mystra 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HavocHounds1988 Awesome. Hopefully the next powerful mage video he inevitably makes, is better.

  • @matejkopa97
    @matejkopa97 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well Azshara was defeated by bunch of heroes with mini wells of eternity on their neck, so now wonder she lost. (And arcane is about how you channel it instead how much of it do you channel.)

  • @Alarak87
    @Alarak87 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I believe that Kel'Thuzad would have qualified as "powerful". He might have needed the sunwell and sorcery to turn into a lich, but I think that being a lich entails a certain amount of magical prowess. I think 1v1, he would have destroyed Jaina in WC3 as a lich.

  • @Blue8132
    @Blue8132 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Azshara did was no one before did since the orderning of azeroth.
    Use most of her power and the heart to release n'zoth

  • @fadeaway3716
    @fadeaway3716 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kweeeen Azshara

  • @Palrath1
    @Palrath1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jaina is without a doubt the strongest. In the battle for dazaralor we only managed to injure her... I have managed to KILL Nzoth (old god), Aggramar (titan), Yogg Saron (old god), Arthas (Lich King), Ragnaros (elemental lord), Al Akir (elemental lord), Deathwing (dragon aspect) and much more. So she's more powerful than any of those that i listed. Makes no sense why she didn't just solo N'zoth if he's making such a big ruckus. Right now Jaina and Sylvanas are indestructible and probably have the thickest plot armor that I've ever seen. Seriously they're probably on par with Rey from star wars or higher. A pair of Mary Sue's who will end the Pantheon and the Void Lords if they were foolish enough to challenge Sylvanas or Jaina.

  • @delko9030
    @delko9030 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you make a video about the story of the bravo company and jhon J keeshan

  • @chucklehead2000
    @chucklehead2000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Uh, that would be me.

    • @petersander5802
      @petersander5802 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No then do a video of you soloing jaina. plottwist you can't

  • @buyanbatbold7522
    @buyanbatbold7522 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you say Jaina is the most powerful mage. I would say Azshara is the most powerful mage because Jaina herself said Azshara is the most powerful sorcerer the world has ever known. Well how many mages could stop whole ocean around the biggest civilization on Azeroth? That could prove she's so strong.

  • @KA-tu2em
    @KA-tu2em 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude it took Jains a first arcanist feathermoon loRTGEMAR AND the HEART OF AZEROTH to take her down. The same heart of Azeroth that when powered up killed nzoth. She’s clearly the strongest

  • @ivanaskobo1037
    @ivanaskobo1037 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Azshara is not special at all. Stop it. I'd be a God too if I was tapping power directly from the god damn well of eternity. Or later on be buffed by an Old God. I'm not saying that she wasn't powerful, but without the constant outside aid and buffs she has been granted she wouldn't really be on the same level as some other characters. Currently the strongest mage on the planet is Khadgar. Most accomplished, most knowledgable and more experienced than most, not all but most. Jaina is a close second.

  • @ExelArts
    @ExelArts 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    its unfair to even list any Guardian as there power isnt there own and i disagree ashara was powerful because of the well, i believe the old god actually weakened her or she just became more weak in her new form so she wasnt a threat to Nzoth later own, as Ashara has proven to be more powerful then jaina during the nazjator land

  • @williamk52
    @williamk52 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    mmmm you got something wrong. Azshara was thought to be Archimonde level not Saggy. Also she was able to maintain world and continent spanning spells at all times.

  • @Silly_Illidan
    @Silly_Illidan 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wtf khadgar is in the list?
    R u kidding me?
    He is a pretty shit wizard...
    Who else fails to destroy the dark portal 3 times -_-

  • @AY-zm5ul
    @AY-zm5ul 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    idk if you playing the game or not, but azshara in her palace she let us defeat her she wanted us to charge the circle of stars with our attacks to release energies from the heart of azeroth to break nzoth chains, please make ur facts right.

  • @Retsoor666
    @Retsoor666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Aegwynn is the most powerful mage, it said in scepter of Sargeras story from Wow Legion

    • @Aureilius2112
      @Aureilius2112 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Most recently in Nazjatar Azshara was referred to as the most powerful mage in history by Occuleth, Lor’themar, Thalyssra and Jaina. Specifically Jaina knew Aegwynn so by her referring to Azshara as “the most powerful sorceress this world has ever known” then I that would imply Azshara is above Aegwynn.

    • @Retsoor666
      @Retsoor666 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Aureilius2112 just character's opinion, while story includes only facts.

    • @Mystra
      @Mystra 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Retsoor666 characters opinions are the writer opinion, same as with the story

  • @Boromir2k1
    @Boromir2k1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Totally forgot about Rhonin

  • @mahdimashayekhi8921
    @mahdimashayekhi8921 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    i think khadgar is stronger than jaina and medivh and his mother are the strongest creatures that are not god or titan .

  • @joshlewis1216
    @joshlewis1216 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Put some respect on this mans name, MILLHOUSE MANASTORM

  • @ehsanmoazen5287
    @ehsanmoazen5287 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    in the novel Tides of war , Ronin leader of Kirin tor send Kalegos post aspect of magic to Jaina to help him to find focusing iris. it shows she has been better than all other the kirin tor members and even kalegos on understanding magic. accourding to Billizard :"She is also the most powerful human sorceress on Azeroth."
    Remember she has staff of Antonidas with power of Amanthul she took from defeating the thunderking

  • @fiekieX
    @fiekieX 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    TBH i think Ner'zul was the strongest of them all

  • @atomheart7907
    @atomheart7907 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    **its me I am the most powerful mage**

  • @blayck8666
    @blayck8666 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jaina more powerful than Medivh ? Nonsense

  • @avalen4399
    @avalen4399 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the name of the background music?

  • @Dxlol21xD
    @Dxlol21xD 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Khadgar > Jaina any day of the week

  • @Charles36.
    @Charles36. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Me! The must powerful fire mage 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @FloweryYonni
    @FloweryYonni 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The defias pillagers are the most powerful ...

  • @Sunny-ld4nn
    @Sunny-ld4nn 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not a word on Kael fucking Thas?

  • @Zavarkinas
    @Zavarkinas 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aegwynn defeated Sargeras, the end of story.

  • @Ondra_the_Prague_guy
    @Ondra_the_Prague_guy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about Prince Kael'Thas?

  • @SlayerODragon
    @SlayerODragon 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where is my boy Kaelthas Sunstrider