Lochridge sounds so angry while telling the story. I can't imagine the amount of resentment he must feel, knowing he was right about Rush and the sub, and not being listened to by a rich idiot cost several people's lives.
@@user-638jdjdpoopThere’s probably a legal reason he didn’t unload with invective, but it was clear he wanted to. If he gave a report full of profanity, the case for the victims against OceanGate, let alone whatever legal action is or was taken against him, could be irreparably harmed.
Well, this testimony from an experienced and trustworthy expert is really all we need to confirm that Stockton Rush was a reckless, unhinged, ego-driven daredevil who should have never been allowed anywhere near anything but a swimming pool, let alone with people who put trust in him.
You can feel the anger and anguish radiating from David as he recounts the blatant disregard Rush had for safety and for the lives of others. I just hope David isn't beating himself up over this, he did his job but his warnings were not heeded and four people paid for Rush's egomania.
9:11 rush sounds like a child! Trying to put the controller behind his back sounds like a small child who won’t let anyone play with their ball. Rush’s ego and greed played a huge part in this disaster.
Long story short : Stockton repeatedly rammed the s*it out of the wreckage in his submersible then hogged the PlayStation controller and then bounced the controller off of this guys head LMAO
Sounds like something your brother would do with your new remote control Underwater diver toy. But no, Rush was a grown-ass man risking lives in his “rules-breaking” submersible design by damaging a historical site with his amateurish driving and maniacal behavior.
@@GlennDuke-yc5kyYa. In these parts idiocy doesn’t matter if we know a guy’s got lotsa zeros in his bank account. After all, they wouldn’t have money if they were dumb, right?
Dude literally got his day in court. It must have been soul-crushing for this guy to hear about the implosion when he tried so hard to prevent this. Where's Stocktons wife?? for some reason you can't find any updates. I don't care what she's doing in her personal life, but as an executive of Oceangate she needs to be in court answering some questions at very least. Or, have her lawyers explain why she can't. cause wtf.. a teenager died, red flags everywhere beforehand.. sounds like he prayed on peoples love of submersibles. Sad stuff.
@@bartolomeestebanmurillo4459yea, if he just wanted the easy money he wouldn’t have tried to RE-invent a deep sea vessel with carbon fiber. His greed was wanting to make an entirely new experimental submersible. Unnecessary risk.
@@rn9119What I was most saddened by was Nargeolet having been on that dive. James Cameron was friends with him, and Nargeolet had been down to Titanic and other even deeper dives many times in better machines. Why Nargeolet was on that dive when he knew better will amaze me for a long time. That said, Nargeolet is not the responsible person, here. I can’t imagine being James Cameron and knowing Rush basically committed negligent homicide on your friend, AFTER the entire industry told Rush he was going to end up killing people.
Lochridge would have well been within his rights to lay Rush out once they got back on the ship. What a punk Rush was. I am amazed there’s been no mention of what the 2 clients experienced in the press. Maybe I just haven’t come across it yet, but I’d also bet Rush would try to sue those clients into the ground based on the wording in his contract forms if they did blow the whistle. Rush had so much money queued up to defend himself in court. Guess he should have been smarter and spent that money engineering a better, safer submersible. It’s amazing how people in vaunted positions like his get passes because they have “CEO” next to their name, but are so bad at business and running a company at the most basic level. As a society we need to stop lionizing and giving our benefit of the doubt to these people, who clearly have zero regard for the lives of those actually earning them their money.
Sorry if I am a billionaire Im not going in a tim contraption that operates with a game controller and bring my son too!!! Stockton was a NUT but why did these others go????
That to me is one of the craziest things. Rush had zero real facilities for anything in that carbon fiber sausage. A small curtain if someone needs a bio break? The submersible basically being an empty tube with 1 window? The billionaire was out to lunch upstairs. I’d love to know what made an ostensibly uber-smart person (so we’re always led to assume) lose all sense and awareness of the bugger picture that was happening.
I'm watching the day 6 hearing with Karl Stanley, and he said Stockton Rush insisted the Titan was safe and had been tested thoroughly, and Stanley believed him at first. So it was deception by Stockton Rush, plain and simple. People trusted his safety pitch, and I don't think that's extraordinary in any way. All this behind-the-scenes drama and incompetence we are hearing about now would have been unknown to customers at the time.
@@Sokara468 Which is why all the “they knew what they were getting into” types are making apologies for Rush’s lethal defiance and grandstanding. It’s now beyond obvious that he was only “innovating” - as he refers to it - to find the absolute ramshackle cheapest way possible to manufacture his bush league sub, run his company, and be able to say he got down to 4000m. But cheaping out on materials and design, tossing safety in the trash, hiring less educated, less experienced, more impressionable young engineers, and basically hiding by every means possible how fraudulent and amateurish his entire operation was isn’t new, because everyone of us deals with companies like that quite often, and few talk about how that’s a sign of their innovative mindset.
This Stockton guy is the boss from hell, and of course he was an MBA too. Surprised Lochridge didnt quit right after this experience, your dumb boss is literally trying to kill you out of ego.
The CEO was way too focus, I might say even obsessed to become a pioneer with those deep diving trips to Titanic and get the recognition among the community for it while making millions from it!
I have no doubt that this Princeton-educated engineer was indeed intelligent but what ultimately💀him & 4 other was his ego & arrogance in thinking that he was somehow exempt from the laws of physics.
doing it properly was out of reach for stockton rush financially, so he decided if he is going to cut corners he may as well cut all corners to achieve his desired result, he could not be to smart, even i know carbon fiber is a stupid choice, at that pressure every dive would create micro cracks and tears in the carbon fiber that would enlarge and spread and eventually at that massive pressure and it would eventually give way, weather it was the 5th dive or the 20th dive the carbon fiber would %100 eventually give way and i am not an engineer !!!
I want to hear from the other witness who went on the dive to the Andrea Doria that David Lochridge is describing. I think Lochridge is heavily exaggerating this story. Every word out of his mouth is about how every single decision by Rush (even minor ones) were super dangerous but thankfully he was there to heroically save the day. Lochridge makes it sound like Rush got them in a really dangerous situation with the customer crying and the Cyclops submersible damaged underwater, but then says once he got the controller from Rush he easily had them out at the surface in 15 minutes. Bottom line: Lochridge and Stockton Rush didn’t care for each other. Lochridge and his constant arguments in the early years were preventing Rush from achieving his lifelong dream to explore the ocean - and now Rush is DEAD and he isn’t here to defend himself. Lochridge is a narcissist and jumps on the opportunity to pain himself like a hero. He’s probably after a book or movie deal. I’m not saying this story didn’t happen - just saying I think it’s heavily exaggerated. To prove my point, drop any personal feelings about the implosion and just IMAGINE that YOU were the OWNER of Ocean Gate, a pioneering undersea exploration company YOU proudly created yourself, and an EMPLOYEE you frequently disagree with scolds YOU THE OWNER for hours IN FRONT OF 2 WEATHY CUSTOMERS about EVERY move you made while you pilot a Submersible, all while the 4 of you are sealed together underwater in a very confined space. I just don’t think it happened the way he testified under oath! Nor do I believe that Stockton said at the end of that underwater trip (after all that constant scolding & drama) “good job David. David saved the day.”
So why isn't Stockton here to defend himself? "Pioneering undersea exploration company" Pioneering how? They bought old subs other people made and ran dives , when they finally made their own sub it turned the passengers into the most expensive soup ever made.
@michaeldonnelly2977 I'll elaborate more on why this is an L take. You only have to look at how Stockton dealt with people who told him his sub was dangerous. He didn't want "50 Year Old White Guys" who actually knew what they were doing, and instead went for young people who were "innovative", he wanted Yes men/women, probably due to this incident and other people's complaints. Lochridge GAVE A NAME of one of the other passengers on board (Renata). If he was trying to exaggerate, why would he give names, knowing they're on the list to testify? Stockton wanted to get to where he wanted to go as quickly as possible and as cheaply as possible. He was, for all intents and purposes, an intelligent fool.
Not sure it could've happened. The female passenger in Lochridge's story testified and denied the whole account of Rush's childish meltdown. Like many narcissists, Rush was surrounded by apologists, who knows what could've legally been done.
Lochridge sounds so angry while telling the story. I can't imagine the amount of resentment he must feel, knowing he was right about Rush and the sub, and not being listened to by a rich idiot cost several people's lives.
He knew exactly what was gonna happen. I don't blame him for being resentful, Rush ignored David L was sued him. He's being too nice in my opinion.
@@user-638jdjdpoopThere’s probably a legal reason he didn’t unload with invective, but it was clear he wanted to. If he gave a report full of profanity, the case for the victims against OceanGate, let alone whatever legal action is or was taken against him, could be irreparably harmed.
@@caobadraconis5560 yeah it's life changing what's all went on, thing is had he been listened too, this wouldn't have happened x
When Lochridge said "...he decided to turn 180 degrees...", you could hear how *pissed* he was at Stockton.
Thank you for uploading this clip! I'd maybe include "Andrea Doria" into the title so it's more easily found.
Well, this testimony from an experienced and trustworthy expert is really all we need to confirm that Stockton Rush was a reckless, unhinged, ego-driven daredevil who should have never been allowed anywhere near anything but a swimming pool, let alone with people who put trust in him.
Bathtub!
You can feel the anger and anguish radiating from David as he recounts the blatant disregard Rush had for safety and for the lives of others. I just hope David isn't beating himself up over this, he did his job but his warnings were not heeded and four people paid for Rush's egomania.
If I want to engineer a submersible I am hiring a Scotsman. Best engineers in the world.
His offspring will someday be on a starship, boldy going where no man has gone before.
@@supers0nic77 A real life Scotty lol!
@@Romulan2469 i just noticed your screen name haha
@@Romulan2469 I donna think she'll take much more
9:11 rush sounds like a child! Trying to put the controller behind his back sounds like a small child who won’t let anyone play with their ball. Rush’s ego and greed played a huge part in this disaster.
10:30 rush threw the controller…what a pathetic little man he was! As I said above, like a small child! He must have been obnoxious to live with
Narcissistic
Long story short : Stockton repeatedly rammed the s*it out of the wreckage in his submersible then hogged the PlayStation controller and then bounced the controller off of this guys head
LMAO
Sounds like something your brother would do with your new remote control Underwater diver toy. But no, Rush was a grown-ass man risking lives in his “rules-breaking” submersible design by damaging a historical site with his amateurish driving and maniacal behavior.
Unbelievable- his testimony shows that Stockton practice was actually criminal😮😮😮
Stockton Rush was an absolute idiot! “fools rush in (where angels fear to tread)”
But Stockton Rush was a rich White American!
@@GlennDuke-yc5kyYa. In these parts idiocy doesn’t matter if we know a guy’s got lotsa zeros in his bank account. After all, they wouldn’t have money if they were dumb, right?
Dude literally got his day in court. It must have been soul-crushing for this guy to hear about the implosion when he tried so hard to prevent this. Where's Stocktons wife?? for some reason you can't find any updates. I don't care what she's doing in her personal life, but as an executive of Oceangate she needs to be in court answering some questions at very least. Or, have her lawyers explain why she can't. cause wtf.. a teenager died, red flags everywhere beforehand.. sounds like he prayed on peoples love of submersibles. Sad stuff.
Also- WOW!! The ONLY people who have Ethical and integrity Stockton dismissed- all for greed☠️
Primarily for his own ego!
@@bartolomeestebanmurillo4459yea, if he just wanted the easy money he wouldn’t have tried to RE-invent a deep sea vessel with carbon fiber. His greed was wanting to make an entirely new experimental submersible. Unnecessary risk.
Classic baby boomer behavior
What a gent
Obviously there were a LOT of experts told him a few hundred times and he failed to listen. He killed those people including himself- sad as hell😞😞😞
@@rn9119What I was most saddened by was Nargeolet having been on that dive. James Cameron was friends with him, and Nargeolet had been down to Titanic and other even deeper dives many times in better machines. Why Nargeolet was on that dive when he knew better will amaze me for a long time. That said, Nargeolet is not the responsible person, here. I can’t imagine being James Cameron and knowing Rush basically committed negligent homicide on your friend, AFTER the entire industry told Rush he was going to end up killing people.
Lochridge would have well been within his rights to lay Rush out once they got back on the ship. What a punk Rush was. I am amazed there’s been no mention of what the 2 clients experienced in the press. Maybe I just haven’t come across it yet, but I’d also bet Rush would try to sue those clients into the ground based on the wording in his contract forms if they did blow the whistle. Rush had so much money queued up to defend himself in court. Guess he should have been smarter and spent that money engineering a better, safer submersible.
It’s amazing how people in vaunted positions like his get passes because they have “CEO” next to their name, but are so bad at business and running a company at the most basic level. As a society we need to stop lionizing and giving our benefit of the doubt to these people, who clearly have zero regard for the lives of those actually earning them their money.
Sorry if I am a billionaire Im not going in a tim contraption that operates with a game controller and bring my son too!!! Stockton was a NUT but why did these others go????
That to me is one of the craziest things. Rush had zero real facilities for anything in that carbon fiber sausage. A small curtain if someone needs a bio break? The submersible basically being an empty tube with 1 window? The billionaire was out to lunch upstairs. I’d love to know what made an ostensibly uber-smart person (so we’re always led to assume) lose all sense and awareness of the bugger picture that was happening.
I'm watching the day 6 hearing with Karl Stanley, and he said Stockton Rush insisted the Titan was safe and had been tested thoroughly, and Stanley believed him at first. So it was deception by Stockton Rush, plain and simple. People trusted his safety pitch, and I don't think that's extraordinary in any way. All this behind-the-scenes drama and incompetence we are hearing about now would have been unknown to customers at the time.
@@Sokara468 Which is why all the “they knew what they were getting into” types are making apologies for Rush’s lethal defiance and grandstanding. It’s now beyond obvious that he was only “innovating” - as he refers to it - to find the absolute ramshackle cheapest way possible to manufacture his bush league sub, run his company, and be able to say he got down to 4000m. But cheaping out on materials and design, tossing safety in the trash, hiring less educated, less experienced, more impressionable young engineers, and basically hiding by every means possible how fraudulent and amateurish his entire operation was isn’t new, because everyone of us deals with companies like that quite often, and few talk about how that’s a sign of their innovative mindset.
This Stockton guy is the boss from hell, and of course he was an MBA too. Surprised Lochridge didnt quit right after this experience, your dumb boss is literally trying to kill you out of ego.
The CEO was way too focus, I might say even obsessed to become a pioneer with those deep diving trips to Titanic and get the recognition among the community for it while making millions from it!
David Lochridge
I have no doubt that this Princeton-educated engineer was indeed intelligent but what ultimately💀him & 4 other was his ego & arrogance in thinking that he was somehow exempt from the laws of physics.
It's as if Stockton Rush was obsessed with the outcome rather than the process. That's not how responsible science/engineering works.
doing it properly was out of reach for stockton rush financially, so he decided if he is going to cut corners he may as well cut all corners to achieve his desired result, he could not be to smart, even i know carbon fiber is a stupid choice, at that pressure every dive would create micro cracks and tears in the carbon fiber that would enlarge and spread and eventually at that massive pressure and it would eventually give way, weather it was the 5th dive or the 20th dive the carbon fiber would %100 eventually give way and i am not an engineer !!!
Wow...
Stockton Rush had help killing these customers! Arrest that board of directors today.
He probably got them killed showing off and damaged titan whilst diving and wasn't something wrong with the sub itself
I want to hear from the other witness who went on the dive to the Andrea Doria that David Lochridge is describing. I think Lochridge is heavily exaggerating this story. Every word out of his mouth is about how every single decision by Rush (even minor ones) were super dangerous but thankfully he was there to heroically save the day. Lochridge makes it sound like Rush got them in a really dangerous situation with the customer crying and the Cyclops submersible damaged underwater, but then says once he got the controller from Rush he easily had them out at the surface in 15 minutes.
Bottom line: Lochridge and Stockton Rush didn’t care for each other. Lochridge and his constant arguments in the early years were preventing Rush from achieving his lifelong dream to explore the ocean - and now Rush is DEAD and he isn’t here to defend himself. Lochridge is a narcissist and jumps on the opportunity to pain himself like a hero. He’s probably after a book or movie deal. I’m not saying this story didn’t happen - just saying I think it’s heavily exaggerated.
To prove my point, drop any personal feelings about the implosion and just IMAGINE that YOU were the OWNER of Ocean Gate, a pioneering undersea exploration company YOU proudly created yourself, and an EMPLOYEE you frequently disagree with scolds YOU THE OWNER for hours IN FRONT OF 2 WEATHY CUSTOMERS about EVERY move you made while you pilot a Submersible, all while the 4 of you are sealed together underwater in a very confined space. I just don’t think it happened the way he testified under oath! Nor do I believe that Stockton said at the end of that underwater trip (after all that constant scolding & drama) “good job David. David saved the day.”
So why isn't Stockton here to defend himself?
"Pioneering undersea exploration company" Pioneering how?
They bought old subs other people made and ran dives , when they finally made their own sub it turned the passengers into the most expensive soup ever made.
If only Stocton was here to give his- - wait.
@@hherpdderpsoup? More like mush.
This is such an L take.
@michaeldonnelly2977 I'll elaborate more on why this is an L take.
You only have to look at how Stockton dealt with people who told him his sub was dangerous.
He didn't want "50 Year Old White Guys" who actually knew what they were doing, and instead went for young people who were "innovative", he wanted Yes men/women, probably due to this incident and other people's complaints.
Lochridge GAVE A NAME of one of the other passengers on board (Renata). If he was trying to exaggerate, why would he give names, knowing they're on the list to testify?
Stockton wanted to get to where he wanted to go as quickly as possible and as cheaply as possible. He was, for all intents and purposes, an intelligent fool.
Oh my lord he should been jailed for this first mishap could killed everyone
Not sure it could've happened. The female passenger in Lochridge's story testified and denied the whole account of Rush's childish meltdown. Like many narcissists, Rush was surrounded by apologists, who knows what could've legally been done.