650cc Motorcycles Tier List! What Do I think is Best?
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Yam: I have a Trident 660 on pre-order
Me: Of course you do
Yam: that I’m probably gonna be doing as a giveaway bike
Me: *spills soda all over myself*
Can I enter if I'm in Sydney Australia?
Yo papa yam do you prefer the busa naked to full faired version? Should do a vid of pros an cons of it
LIKE YAMMIE PUBE SAID IN HIS OPINION.
THE HONDA CB 650R & CBR 650R IS BETTER THEN THE REST THIS IS WHY.
THE HONDA HAS GREAT STOCK BRAKES EXCELLENT STOCK SUSPENSION PLUS ITS A HONDA INLINE 4 YOUR CAN'T KILL A HONDA.
THE APRILIA RS660 HAS ISSUES LIKE ALL APRILIA'S DO THE TRIUMPH TRIDENT DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH BALLS.
AND TALKING ABOUT NOT HAVING ENOUGH BALLS OH MY GOSH STAY AWAY FROM THE Z650 BECAUSE IT HAS NO BALL BECAUSE THE MANSCAPED LAWN MOWER 1.0 LOPPED THEM OFF BECAUSE IT DIDN'T HAVE A NICK GUARD LIKE THE NEW AND IMPROVED LAWN MOWER 4.0 SO GO GET YOUR LAWN MOWER NOW BECAUSE NO GIRL LIKES NEANDERTHAL BALL.
YOUR OK WITH THE NINJA 650 BUY IT NEEDS A EXHAUST KN AIR FILTER AND A RACE ECU TUNE TO BE VERY GOOD FOR THE STREET.
THE MT-07 IS WAY TO WHEELIE HAPPY THAT THING CAN PULL A DANK NOONER IN 3RD GEAR DONT ASK ME HOW I KNOW SO NOT THE GREATEST FOR THE STREET PLUS IT HAS SUCH A CRAPPY SUSPENSION.
The best 650CC motorcycle is a Turbo Busa with 2 bad cylinders.
Busa is a shit motorcycle
@@markusionescu3957 r/woosh
That made me chuckle
@@toxicwaste1581 haha. He must be new here.
hahahaha
Of course Yammie would complain the cbr650r is too expensive and sucks because it's fully faired, and then put the most expensive faired bike in the class at the top of the list.
I was about to point this out but fortunately you did it sooner so thanx :D
I SOMETIMES can't seriously understand yammi's logic in comparing bikes...and regarding the subject of putting most [NOT all] hondas in the lower ranks in many of his videos, I have to say although I like the guy but I've seen MANY [again not all] Yamaha fans [mostly Americans] hating on hondas...I donno why they have this sense of hatred or whatever you wanna call it deep in them
I'm a Honda fanboy myself a bit but I've always had HUGE respect for EVERY other Japanese and MOST Euro brands and I know every manufacturer has good and bad products
On the other hand, its only a couple $100 less than the Kawasaki zx6r with better brakes, suspension and more power.
That's the difficult part of the cbr650, it's a small step above the 650twins and a small step below the 600 i4 supersports
He does have a habit of contradicting himself
Because the most expensive is the only one with complete electronics, quickshifter etc..., with brembo brakes (honda infamously kept using rubber lines even on the 1000 leaderbike until the latest models). Because it’s the lightest of the bunch, and with the best suspension etc... the problem with Honda is that makes you pay a lot of money for a not so worthy bike. If the cbr costed 2 grand less I bet it would have been in the top 4 at least.
Plus the fact that any slightly conservative motorcyclist would hesitate to plunk down their hard earned cash on a release year Italian design. Like so many motorcycle pundits, Yammy seems to put almost no weight at all into the category of reliability. Cost matters, but not the service costs? What is the value of not breaking down on the side of the road? Granted the CBR650R is pretty expensive for what you get, it's like $300 less than a ZX6. But as cool as that Aprillia is, there is no way I would consider owning one until they have been around a few years, go through the recall cycle, get revised, and then if that all goes really well, maybe I buy one used in like 6 years. You could trust the Honda today.
I don't necessarily think the CBR650R is better than the Aprilia, the Italian bike is very 'cool' and does make the Honda look and feel a little boring in comparison. But having them at opposite ends of the chart is pretty comical. I also wonder a bit about the Trident in #2. If they are reliable out of the box that is probably a fair ranking. If not... it's not.
You didn't take a sip of whatever you are holding there that made me laugh 😂😂😂
It's because the cup is empty 😂
I'm impressed that he didn't spill a drop 😁
There was a ton of cuts, just well edited, he probably has water like most public speakers have.
@@16driver16 ^^ My editor cut the sips lol, it’s black coffee
Strangely enough I noticed that too :-)
Some B roll footage of each motorcycle would've been nice.
So basically only Honda, Suzuki and Kawasaki have 650cc engines in the "650cc class"
Versys. Vstrom. INT 650. Svartpilen. Vulcan S. Should have been the top 13 I guess.
I do find it odd how he put the cb650r all the way down the list because of its price....put the cbr650r at the bottom because it's a fully faired bike, then said that the kawasaki had a boring parallel twin..... Then put a 11,000 dollar, fully faired, parallel twin at the top of the list
Yam got no problem spending a lil extra change for a Triumph or Duck but shit if Honda makes a bike he ain't having it.
So the MT07 is still number 1, technically. Got it!
Exactly
For the same money the Trident offers more
I think the point is that #1 and #2 aren’t even out yet
So the big dig on the MT-07 is suspension. I put Ohlins on the rear, and rebuilt the front with progressive springs, new shims, heavier oil, and preload adjusters.
I'd put it up against the Trident. :-D
@@jeffk1485 Cool! I'd love to see how the bike looks like.
Fascinating, Criteria based objectively on value for money with by far the most expensive winning. Oh, did I mention? The top two also based on little piccy-wiccys and spec sheets. What could be more interesting?
Where would the Husqvarna Vitpilen/Svartpilen 701 sit on this list? Seems like these bikes get over looked.
At the top. Where it belongs.
Agreed. But if you have one, then that could be a good thing
Too expensive for what it offers. If the CBR scored low for price, the Huskie wouldn't even place.
is made in China
Aren't they only 1 cylinder and have husky problems?
Can’t wait to see where my CB650R fits into this list! It rocks!! 👍
Edit: Dang it.
You're on a winner marra
The cb650r and cbr650 just seem to be stunning bikes for the money, had to be biased I supposed
Yeah his only reason for not putting it higher is the price. Well, stop being poor 🤷🏻♂️ I don't mind paying for the reliability and let's be honest prettiest bike on the list (not to mention 94hp 4 cylinders engine)
The CB650R is overpriced in the US, but it is in the sweet spot in other countries.
I have the cb650f. I love it. Sometimes I wish it had a bit more power but its a keeper. Still more than enough to make me smile and to get into trouble. Oh and at 6' 2" its also pretty comfy for taller people. That was the selling point for me and those beautiful golden header pipes. Mmmhmmm
@@Guiguilalicorne The engine makes even more with a powercommander its able to gain above 110 hp
I love how yammie just held the cup of coffee the whole video!
The Trident looks great! I’d agree on it and the Aprilia, they look amazing.
Thanks Yam
Totally agree with your Top 2. Love the Aprilia. Such an amazing looking bike with an awesome package. Be interesting to see what you think when the order arrives!
I've ridden a RSV4RR and it was terrific, if the 660 can feel like it but with power you can actually put down on the street, it will be an absolute blast and a dream to ride. Also, I was in Austin and wanted to come see the yammie sanctum
Can't wait to see your review of the Triumph Trident 660!
You made a video about what I'm looking for ty buddy!
Great list and I totally agree Yammie's top 2. I'm torn between the beautiful Aprilia RS660 and the new Trident, which also looks great. It would be good if Yammie could do a side by side comparison of these two bikes as most reviewers are only going to do comparisons with the direct competitors for each bike.
Finally! Papa yam bless me with some wisdom!!!
As an old rider with 50 years on English and German bikes I am very interested in the stability and manners I am sure the Trident will have ..Clean throttle response and a stellar balanced drive train to the back wheel . All the things that make a planted inspiring ride and at an excisable price ..Very exciting ; and a game changer in the market ... What a time to be riding ...
I feel you Yams. I knew you were going to out those two as number 1 and number 2, but I definitely feel you.
I really like the look of the new Triumph. That's the one I'm hoping to get my hands on
I really wish Yamaha would put the MT07/09 platform into sport fairings to compete with the RS660, I think that would be an awesome road bike to get instead of the discontinued R6
I think the power of the RS660 will make it feel more like a 600 class bike. Great for the track and more in line with the price.
Can't wait to take a look at the Trident in person. Currently on a GSXS125 but got my direct access mod 2 test next friday. Looking at the trident for first proper bike
I got to say for experienced riders many may like the extra power of the Aprilia best. But older and new riders may choose the Trident with its easy set up, Good handling from what I've seen and its simple 2 rider modes.
So basically it’s the MT07 until next year? Cool I’m still loving my 2015 model - after 40years of riding I still love this bike - rate it amongst the best of them for grins.
For me it’s the triumph trident, love triples. I had a 1975 T150V and it was the best engine I had ever experienced, beautiful bike to ride
The Kaw Z900 costs less than both the Honda's and out-classes every other bike on this list. When Aprilia's dealer network grows up they might be a real contender...for rich kids with daddy's platinum card.
Like other who have commented here reliability has its price and that’s what Honda delivers. Also he’s does say that it’s his opinion and not a started fact. With that being said I put zero stock in his opinion on the Triumph and the Aprilla. Both of these manufacturers have been know to have issues. For me reliability means a lot more than an opinion about a bike that you have never ridden. To put that in perspective it’s like saying well Toyota makes great cars so of course their next car will be great as well. My recommendation would be to make these types of videos based on actual experience and not marketing.
In his video about the most reliable brands honda isnt even #1 lol. Tied with suzuki behind yamaha. Also his videos about the cbr500r were actually... a bit biased. Somehow the dude got a hate boner for honda.
It's crazy what one little bike like the Aprilia can do to an entire segment. Wonder how soon the other brands will jump onto that high-spec middleweight class. It's probably the best replacement for the gap that the 600 bikes left behind. Imagine if Honda re-imagined the F4i as a +2021 bike, that'd be pretty sweet
12k for a 650 is retarded.
@@GuidedByMonkeys It's much closer to 11 than 12 mate, be careful with using the word retarded lol
Nice can't wait to see the Trident and the rs660!
Can't wait to ride an Aprilia 660!!
I love it. It's so great.
Boi if i don’t see the New Aprilia today...
Getting that one in 3 days 😍
@@ON-O I’ll stick with my trusted shiver 750 until I can afford a Tuono v4. That will take quite some time.
Royal Enfield Interceptor/Continental GT. Just buy it.
That is what you end up with when you have a noob rating motorcycles.
Seriously, 650 V-Strom should have made this list.
Really makes me mad how much people overlook that amazing bike.
*cries in Vulcan S
...again
It's the real winner... on the inside.
Seriously Yamaha, we need an MT-07 SP
Todays 600 class are excellent and in some cases a much betterbike than the bigger bikes. I have an SV650 S with a half/bikini fairing. What a great bike
Trident vs CB650r vs mt07 video needed.
Alternative title: "650cc Motorcycles: The Europeans Strike Back".
Numbers 1&2 are BOLD picks.
Mr. Yammienoob, can non US residents apply for the giveaway bikes?
No
He’s addressed this before. Unfortunately only open to US residents.
@@JKA-TML guessed not but worth an ask.
"Fully faired" is great if you live where they have a cold season, or cold nights.
Ain’t no Yam, like a Candy Yam.
Would have loved a pic of each bike although I do know what they look like anyway XD
I've a triumph garage less than a mile from me, I'll be test riding it for sure!
Yammie if you rank these based on price values it takes away the mechanical and quality aspect of the bike. Your best advice is to buy used so with a great deal on a previous year model the CB650R is the best 650cc class motorcycle in my opinion. Ride quality, power, looks (CBR), reliability, touring capabilities, comfort, entry 4 cylinder fun.
The z650 with the trident engine would be my ideal bike.
Long time viewer, love ur content! Central TX represented, I lived in Austin for several years, now a little further down I35. Had question about Hyosung, and that uve never mentioned them. The only people that seem to even know what they are from overseas.
What's ur thoughts on the gt650 sport bike or the gv650 cruiser?
In my country the CB650R is only $500 more than a Z650. Which would you pick in this case?
It's amazing how entertaining you cats are with just pure motorcycle bullshit ! Keep up the great work, love it.
Can’t wait for you to review the Triumph Trident 660. Do you have an ETA for your order?
Ues, you got it right finally!!! RS660 FTW!!! Can’t wait for your review!!
I like faired bikes because you don’t get so cold in the winter! Fewer bug hits too…
God I just want yammie to whisper in my ear all the specs on my bike while he tells me to upgrade to a turbo busa when I'm ready
Question Papa @Yammie Noob, Hypothetically, if the CB650R was priced the same as the Trident 660, how would it have fared in this list?
You split up CBR650R/CB650R and SV650X/SV650 but not MT07/XSR700?
I do like the Ninja 650z....but I also love my ZX10R too!
Wait he mentioned ninja 650?
@@nishadapte3571 he mentioned the 650z but not the Ninja 650r.
@@mmarr6580 corrected
I assume he would rate the N8nja 650 worse than the Z650. since it is more expensive and fully faired, which Yammie doesn't like. Other than that, pretty much the same bike.
But, since I own a 2020 Ninja 650, and love it, I don't really care what Papa Yams thinks of it.
You should Check out the Svartpilen 701. It's the 401s big brother. You'd like it. I love mine.
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You pick the white trident 660. What a good taste. At first glance everyone prefer the grey/red one. As time goes by, the white trident grow on me. Plus you can save $120.
What about the Suzuki Vstrom 650? How does it hold up in relation to these bikes.
(Though I am VERY tempted to get a trident, it is gorgeous!)
I have a '19 650xt V-Strom. Amaaaaaazing bike. Very highly underrated. Good price. Not too bad on maintenance costs. Not pretty, but I would pick it over any of the bikes mentioned in the video, in a heartbeat.
Traction control, ABS, nice dash.
It's a little meaty (wide and long), but that's the way, uh uh, I like it, uh uh.
The clutch is featherweight and the brakes are probably some of the best in it's price range.
I like the suspension, although most people end up upgrading it. I don't really care, feels good to me.
It's really torqey at low RPMs too, which I prefer over torque at high RPMs. I don't really get a chance to get up to siper high RPMs on the street anyway.
Having that low end torque can really pull you out of crappy situations real quick.
It'a not particularly good looking... at first. Over the last few months though, I kinda love the ugly duckling look. It's just super unique-looking, and looks best from the side.
Factory tires are pretty nice, but don't expect to go offroad without guardrails and a skidplate.
Also, at under $10k, it beats the shit out of all the bikes in this video.
And spare parts/maintenance is reasonable.
Dude... You can't put those #1 & #2 on your list.. honorable mentions at the most. I know what your said but it doesn't matter until you ride it. Also... You complain about the price on the Honda's 650 but more than $11K for your #1!? Ok... Sure..
I can and I did. Cry more
Honda is too expensive, but this Aprilia that's almost a 600cc class bike is #1? It's an Italian cbr650r...
Features, tech, suspension. Cmon y’all can’t be this dumb right? Lol
@@yammienoob Aww he's in love with the Italians
But Yam, your number 2 was the trident, a bike that actually sticks to segment a lot better. The Aprilia is this in between of a supersport and 650cc. Bikes like this and cbr650r are probably why the r6 is getting canceled.
@@trevormartin8497 Dude, the reason why the R6 got cancelled is because it's a track bike disguised as a street bike. Not to mention, it's stiff on corners, average handling, possesses limited electronics and it is uncomfortable as fuck. The RS 660 is hybrid model but guess what? It has useable power, loads of electronics (five riding modes and adjustable suspension), far superior handling, and has much more comfortable ergonomics. Aprilia made a masterpiece.
i know you arent a big cruiser guy but was wondering if you guys were planning on doing a video on the Yamaha Bolt.
Its interesting how here in Denmark the Trident and CB650R is pretty much the same price with the Trident being a tiny bit more expensive
Dont you know ? US people always think they are the most important. I bet its half of his viewers ot even less thats from the US.
@@fidjdbdjficbfk7944 Yammie is from the US so ofc is the US his reference. I just thought that it was interesting how different the prices on bikes are inbetween each other
I'd like to know where the vulcan s stands in your opinion. 9 or lover and why? i haven't tried it but image vise it looks ice to me, but we know looking good or bad isn't as important as running or not. so your thoughts?
I wish you had photos of the bikes on the screen as you were talking about them
You are the chael sonnen of the motorbike world(that is a compliment)😀
Z650 is my first bike, and I don’t think it’s that bad. Might switch up next year but for now, I love it
How’s she going so far? Hopefully you still have her
But which bike would you choose between cb650r and triumph, if you could get them for the same price?
I am in the market for a second bike. Nudie bike for an occasional track day, handling and low cost of ownership is critical. I am leaning towards a cb650r. Any better ideas?
yammie the fisherman throw that bait out lol
The Aprilias high price really rules it out of the 650 budget class. last weeks tests of the the Trident in Tenerife had all the testers saying the Triumph is easily the top bike in its class.
I'm more hyped about the Tuono 660, if it features the same electronics and Sport Bike looks, but Naked Bike seating position. Given that its a naked bike it will probably a bit cheaper.
My INT650 Royal Enfield may be #10, but it should make the list.
If you do another one of these, you should include the BMW 650s
I have a 2019 SV650. What would you do to it if it were yours as mentioned in this video?
+1
Your list makes a lot of sense... the only drawback is the Aprilia dealer network sucks in most of the country... I have to go 500 miles to get my Futura serviced by a dealer..
Have you had any experience with the Kawasaki Vulcan S? Same engine as the Ninja 650/Z650. I feel like it would be great for your beginner bike giveaway series at some point. Especially for those that are stuck between a naked bike or a cruiser.
What about the royal Enfield 650 twins?
They aren't even playing the same sport. The Interceptor is a true retro bike, and as such, it has performance about on par with a bike from 50 years ago.
Yam always simping for Triumph, love it.
Pls make the older style videos with the memes & all
Who’s here after the aprillia engine failure recall and after yammie said he still likes the mt07 better?
Trident got an usable power low and midrange, thatz what we need in streets...parallel twins and triples are more enjoyable on roads..I think
Yam how would you compare the Monster 797 to these bikes?
Can’t wait until the RS660’s come to my job/dealership😈, probably gonna trade in the old 03’ Aprilia RSV Mille
Anyone ever dropped a ridge wallet on hard floor? That’s how you start an active shooter police call... From experience
Sounds like a story worth telling...
@@joey_mck we are still waiting Mr. R1.
Would love to see a review on a GSXS750
So the sv650 gets 2 places because they changed the bars but the xsr700 doesn't get a separate place from the mt07?
I think the price on the Aprilia deranks it a few pegs. Ok, Triumph puts all the extras outside so kitting it to the point you would buy it prices it squarely with the Honda so its price tag is a bit of a trick.
Man, that coffee mug didn’t move one inch the whole video
The Versys 650 is on the top of Zack's Daily Rider list on Revzilla. Maybe it should be on this list. Maybe the Vstrom 650 should count too?
Honda at the bottom? Imagine that. Its a 4 cylinder though. The Z650 is parallel twin
Yam you can talk up triumph build quality all you want but everyone I personally know that’s owned one has said they were dumpster fires of issues “3 bikes to be specific, but all 3 out of 3”
Really. I have owned 3 Triumphs over the last 7 years and had one slight problem. But i guess its how you look after them and the abuse you give them. I know Triumph owners like myself who love there Triumph and dont have issues coming out there ass. Very strange.
@@seeker1432 it’s happened to them 🤷♂️ I’m sure the can’t all be that way but still. About two months ago I was at a dealer not to far from me. He had a fairly new Daytona. I asked him what they wanted for it and he said he wouldn’t sell it to me. The wiring harness decided to melt itself. And the cost of the repairs for the damage it caused wasn’t worth fixing. He said he’s keeping it as a paperweight and a reason to tell people not buy triumph. Apparently they have had issues with them in the past as well
Imagine thinking personal anecdotes speaks for a brand’s reliability
@@yammienoob like I said. I’m sure there not all bad. But I’ve seen enough to make me steer clear of them. Don’t believe me? Call freedom powersports in Fayetteville Arkansas. Ask them about it to. They said they won’t buy them anymore
@@yammienoob on second thought I recall a video you posted about “least reliable motorcycles” about a year ago” and triumph tied with Ducati for least reliability.... forget your own video???
I do think the Trident is going to be the best in class. I also predict it eventually dethrones the Versys on Daily Driver. And I actually love the Versys. For what it is.
Maybe, but Zach Courts has a bit of a weird crush on that Versys. Perhaps because he is tall, and the Versys is very comfortable for a tall person. In truth it's just very very comfortable all around. I've ridden one. I could easily see Zach down rating the Triumph for the lack of wind protection and less comfy ergos. -- It will destroy the big Kawi on the coolness chart though.
@@kleinbottled79 Good points sir. I'm tall too and have ridden a Versys I'd be torn after I rode a trident. The reviews I've seen have been pretty great.
@@Hoodilydaddle Yeah the Trident is on my short list for sure. Great looks, great sound, fun power level, good price. All it needs to do is prove reliable and it'll be hard to resist.
Thank you motorcycle idubbz
Hahahaha fuck that’s a good one 😂
yo come on dude . Vitpilen 701 !!?