The Tragic Tale of Black Ops 4

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  • The Tragic Tale of Black Ops 4
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    This is my Bo4 zombies full retrospective going over the events that affected the Black Ops 4 campaign, the multiplayer, and Bo4 zombies as well. This will be a full Black Ops 4 retrospective and review ive been working on for a long time.
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  • @Ch0pper
    @Ch0pper  ปีที่แล้ว +196

    god listning back to this i sound so sinusy, I was recovering from mono when recording this, sorry if it sounds weird LMAO

    • @ThunderStruck115
      @ThunderStruck115 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, it's just you clearly have no idea what you're talking about in this video th-cam.com/video/TQc1Hzc4wTg/w-d-xo.html

    • @quintapion_
      @quintapion_ ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Fortnite movie

    • @MoistyRain
      @MoistyRain ปีที่แล้ว

      Sinussy

    • @maartenbondt9600
      @maartenbondt9600 ปีที่แล้ว

      22:05 “hey review the maps you dumb idiot”
      For real I would love to see it, these review/looking back videos are amazing! Keep it up man

    • @apexfenix9623
      @apexfenix9623 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey man just wanted to add my input. The interview audio is WAY more quiet then you.

  • @matthewkirk9695
    @matthewkirk9695 2 ปีที่แล้ว +380

    Part 1: The Campagin 4:03
    Part 2: The Multiplayer 8:42
    Part 3: Zombies 15:02
    Part 4: Black out 44:56

  • @TastySnackies
    @TastySnackies 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Vonderhar’s response to “What happened to BLOPS 4” is a non-answer that actually says “We don’t know, we didn’t have any direction, in the first place.”

  • @lsant1997
    @lsant1997 2 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    My biggest issue with BO 3 and 4 is that there is the weakest of links to BO 1&2. Like you can’t have a throwaway line mentioning Menendez and call it a sequel or have some tech billionaire with the last name Mason kinda be there and call it 3 and 4. It’s like they were to afraid to make an entirely new series but had the cover of the Black Ops name tag to bring people in based on how much fun the first 2 games were.

    • @TheFapFactory
      @TheFapFactory 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think what you mean to say is they are the weaker links*

    • @consolewarrior1337
      @consolewarrior1337 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The thing is Cod was always about mp, main community don’t even play campaign and bo3 and bo4 mp plays awesome, just like bo1 and bo2, the thing since bo3 they decided to give all accent to mp, all trailers was about it and blackout in bo4, I personally played all modes, main platform is PlayStation so got a couple platinum trophies, but main community always grind master prestiges and 100% completion

  • @ReallyJTT
    @ReallyJTT ปีที่แล้ว +224

    one thing i loved about BO4s multiplayer was the stims. no more sittin in a corner waiting for health, u get in a fight, win, click a button, heal, and back into a fight, it was a very rushy mp and i loved it, one of my favorite MPs

    • @williamknows3908
      @williamknows3908 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yess 100%

    • @JonBee99
      @JonBee99 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Exactly.

    • @Anonymous-nj9wh
      @Anonymous-nj9wh ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly dude !

    • @RTU130
      @RTU130 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hmmm

    • @keanuxu5435
      @keanuxu5435 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I haven't played COD in a long ass time, but I hope this feature returns in other COD games.

  • @MrNickster115
    @MrNickster115 2 ปีที่แล้ว +162

    I feel like with Vanguard Zombies being Vanguard Zombies it makes BO4 look significantly better than it ever has been. Even tho it had its issues it was still zombies at its core and still had its staples which is something Vanguard definitely can’t say

    • @chadgamer6942
      @chadgamer6942 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The new cods are a joke. Spawn in with my knife PACKAPUNCH MY KNIFE and i never need to hit the box or do any wall buys just such a joke

    • @jarrettgillmore467
      @jarrettgillmore467 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@chadgamer6942 you aren’t wrong, I just gave up on cod cause the new zombies are absolute dogshit. I still just go back & play bo3 or infinite warfare if I wanna play some actual zombies

    • @chadgamer6942
      @chadgamer6942 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jarrettgillmore467 those are fun but gobblegum and ff cards are soo p2w

    • @jarrettgillmore467
      @jarrettgillmore467 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@chadgamer6942 ff cards are definitely not pay to win imo. There’s genuinely not any good cards like bo3, the only one that’s a must have is scoped dollars and that’s base kit. I just hopped on there and looked through all the cards and the biggest one is packing heat( get a random weapon at pack a punch 2) but even then you can get that yourself every run if you know how.
      & I can see the argument for bo3 but like mainly the only super op ones are perkaholic, reign drops,and shopping free. Plus once you have one, you practically never need another one as long as you don’t fuck up and not close app before the games over

    • @chadgamer6942
      @chadgamer6942 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jarrettgillmore467 in infinite warfare theres one that doubles damage and one that makes u keep all ur perks when u go down also a few insta res cards that are str8 up broken.

  • @nadmeshds1975
    @nadmeshds1975 2 ปีที่แล้ว +789

    Seeing you review the game's different maps in detail would actually be nice

    • @Dad420
      @Dad420 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hinglemccringleberry9389 wow homophobic in 2022 crazy shit can’t blame you

    • @nadmeshds1975
      @nadmeshds1975 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@hinglemccringleberry9389 because I'd like to know why he thinks certain aspects are "terrible"

    • @Lustie
      @Lustie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@hinglemccringleberry9389 Watch other TH-cam’s do bo4 map reviews, sometimes the reviews go went into the 40 minute to hour range and are actually pretty insightful, even if the map itself isn’t great.
      Also saying not to do something because, “it’s gay,” isn’t an argument and it’s really childish.

    • @nikolaithemartian
      @nikolaithemartian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’d tune in

    • @davidsplooge14
      @davidsplooge14 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      should he though? Because most are just barely better and complex than ww2's bare bones three laners. I don't think there's much content to be had because 90% of the game is just seaside with different textures

  • @nonyabusiness6225
    @nonyabusiness6225 2 ปีที่แล้ว +394

    Without watching this I can tell you exactly why it “failed” it’s because they pushed the agenda of battle royal and cut other content that would of made this game even better because of the time they had. Honestly I love the game and the battle royal it has but I feel activision needs to let creators create

    • @gaming.golden
      @gaming.golden ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Classic case of listening to market researchers and trends instead of making your game the way people already like it.

    • @IGotRice
      @IGotRice ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You're right about that and I'm with you on this. I refuse to believe after making some of the best titles in the series with each iteration getting better each time that this was what they wanted the game and final product to be like. One can't ignore how popular BR's are and as much as I like them, it definitely has ruined multiplayer.

    • @archangelgabriel8493
      @archangelgabriel8493 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@IGotRice You can thank Fortnite for rounding up every kid on the face of the planet and making one horrible game mode that forever ruined gaming. By no means should a BR have taken priority over multiplayer or zombies, those two game modes is what the entire franchise was built off of and couldn't possibly be replaced by one shitty trend that went out in a couple years.

    • @connorosullivan3500
      @connorosullivan3500 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Money is the only thing that runs through activision’s head really though lol so I don’t see it being very likely

    • @cha0ss0ldier-4
      @cha0ss0ldier-4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@archangelgabriel8493 fortnite didn’t invent the BR genre. Fortnite just ripped off PUBG and PUBG was based off of an arma mod.
      Also BR eventually revived the franchise. It was dead in the water before Warzone.
      How can you say BRs are a trend that’s already dead when the biggest multiple games in 2022 are BR games. Apex, Warzone, Fortnite, even PUBg is still one of the most played games on steam.
      BRs aren’t a trend at this point, they are the standard for MP games. Arena shooters are dead.

  • @cheaterxhades
    @cheaterxhades ปีที่แล้ว +110

    I loved black ops 4 multiplayer especially the stim shot. Healing your self and moving around added a skill gap that you either got good at or didn’t. I’m a bo3 fan so this game was like a home away from home kinda feeling. Some of the same specialists features but also different maps and movements and guns. Overall wouldn’t put it high ranked but still one of my favorites

    • @thegoodlord9914
      @thegoodlord9914 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Insta healing was cheese wtf

    • @RJ_Cue
      @RJ_Cue 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      "Skill gap" meanwhile everyone has a super ability which guarantees cheesey ways to win. BO4 is a joke.

    • @cmadw3150
      @cmadw3150 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@thegoodlord9914skill issue

    • @cmadw3150
      @cmadw3150 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@RJ_Cueskill issue

    • @SAS97x
      @SAS97x 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RJ_Cueyes the specialist are way to overpower with just few exceptions. But at its core bo4 had a very high skill gab not just because of the healing but also because of the high ttk and the movement

  • @karolclark791
    @karolclark791 2 ปีที่แล้ว +690

    To me BO4 was so disappointed just because I set the bar extremely high
    When I got over the initial disappointment I really enjoyed it
    I'd grind out levels for all the guns and enjoyed high rounding
    It was by no means perfect but it wasn't as bad as some make it out to be

    • @makaveli3189
      @makaveli3189 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      It’s really trash compared to bo1

    • @Henry-iz7iv
      @Henry-iz7iv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@makaveli3189 How? In a lot of ways it’s better that Black Ops 1.

    • @makaveli3189
      @makaveli3189 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@Henry-iz7iv Story, multiplayer, zombies. All better in bo1 and bo2. Chronicles saved bo3 and there was nothing really intriguing about bo4. Nothing new to make it fun, which is why it’s not bragged about.

    • @chim8938
      @chim8938 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Bo4 was the last good CoD. People who are saying it’s trash are just nit picking every little thing.

    • @makaveli3189
      @makaveli3189 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@chim8938 Bo4 is unpopular, just a fact

  • @thenoobassassin
    @thenoobassassin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +212

    That’s what killed it for me the most, the zombie mechanics. Training forever changed after decades + of relying on your movement to allow you to survive. Now the zombies body check you worse than WAW. Overall, good game but not my favorite zombie experience. A lot of people in the comment section here seem to be fans of gaslighting you and others instead of listening to the criticisms. They’d rather say you “just hate new” or “nostalgia” like they are purposely playing dumb or are ignorant.

    • @GamerScoreInfinite
      @GamerScoreInfinite 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You are a narcissist and speak as if you are superior, and ironically, “gaslight” anyone who disagrees with you.
      My advice? “get good”. It’s fine to be different, yet the same, and hard isn’t bad. I’ve been playing since BO1 and while BO4 was hard it’s fantastic. You feign open mindedness, yet, you particularly attack and spite a certain mindset as if it were wrong. Fascinatingly ironic. A good segment for a study of the human condition. Blatant hypocrisy online, but for what; and why?

    • @ketamineheadyoda2248
      @ketamineheadyoda2248 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@GamerScoreInfinite bo4 wasnt hard

    • @williamkline6450
      @williamkline6450 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@GamerScoreInfinite bo4 zombies sucked

    • @williamkline6450
      @williamkline6450 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@GamerScoreInfinite one thing I absolutely fucking hate is when people leave comments on TH-cam as if they’re about to submit their English final. Might as well put it in MLA format, professor.

    • @GamerScoreInfinite
      @GamerScoreInfinite 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@williamkline6450 no wonder you hated BO4 zombies, even the way a stranger types bothers you 😂😂😂 Sorry, I’ve made it a habit to practice proper grammar. It almost becomes second nature, to where I do it without thinking. So it’s funny, I make a lot of sense, and so much so, I trigger a stranger on the internet for just typing like I type.
      Get a hobby, be less angry. Maybe you would’ve enjoyed BO4Zs, and maybe the way people type won’t upset you- you effin clown 😂😂

  • @SkyblueStarmoon
    @SkyblueStarmoon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I remember accidentally buying Black Ops 4 ( PS4 ) for $12 thinking it was Black Ops 3 because I never knew what the box art looked like. It was fun to try it out, but the lack of a fun single player experience ruined it for me. Plus, when I eventually got Black Ops 3 on PC, I couldn’t look back.

    • @yammietits5040
      @yammietits5040 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for that, now it makes sense. I hate BLOPS4, couldn’t get over the lack of the campaign, I thought I was just not finding it whilst looking for it.

    • @redeyejedi4400
      @redeyejedi4400 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bo3 was literally the worst one and had a really dull repetitive campaign

    • @tinggoat9841
      @tinggoat9841 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@redeyejedi4400at least bo3 had a story

    • @astilla4729
      @astilla4729 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@redeyejedi4400Better multiplayer and far better zombies. And also has a campaign.

    • @jayluis7701
      @jayluis7701 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@redeyejedi4400I agree with the campaign part that campaign was actually terrible, but I'm not just gonna let you slander bo3 zombies like that

  • @Nazrat84
    @Nazrat84 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "Aether should have been the focus of BO4 Zombies to finish the story!"
    *_Leaves out the part where Revelations was supposed to be the ending until the backlash was so big they had to return dig up it's grave when they were already working on Chaos as the hard reboot of the series_*

    • @ThunderStruck115
      @ThunderStruck115 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep. The amount he gets wrong in this video is staggering

  • @Legoman791
    @Legoman791 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    31:25 "you are actually crashing and running into errors the whole time but the dev tool that made every single one a bluescreen was left "on" for the full build of the game"
    Okay, as a programmer myself, this makes 0 sense. Either treyarch devs are completely incompetent and cannot make a game without errors, or this is a flat out LIE. Whoever you spoke to at Treyarch either didnt know what they were saying or he/she was told to lie to downplay the issue. Im 99% sure that bluescreens were not caused by "a dev tool which was left in the game by mistake". It was happening because the game was unfinished, untested and a buggy mess.

    • @davjags
      @davjags 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i thought the same thing. not only for the reason u mentioned, but wouldn’t it be super ez to fix that? it took WEEKS. ur telling me it took weeks to find that? i find that very hard to believe

  • @senit2374
    @senit2374 ปีที่แล้ว +289

    It seems like I'm the only one that loved both MP and Zombies in BO4. I think the specialists and the one-shot weapons were too much, but I liked pretty much everything else. The two mentioned before could ruin a game, however.

    • @orlandofurioso7329
      @orlandofurioso7329 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I like what bo4 tried, my issue is that the zombies AI relies too much on saving yourself with the specialist weapon, zombies are way too aggressive, if that makes sense lol, what i mean is when you search for parts you have to constantly run since you cannot get distant enough to have room to breathe.

    • @notaspider4084
      @notaspider4084 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah you are the only one, bo4 mp and zombies fuckin blew lmfao

    • @OrangeandGreenSoda
      @OrangeandGreenSoda ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I HATED the kill streaks.

    • @sogekingsimp2469
      @sogekingsimp2469 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I also really liked Bo4. Believe it or not, bo4 is my 2nd favorite cod, mainly because I didn't get to experience the prime of the older days and didn't catch MW2 until the end of its cycle

    • @pricefieldx
      @pricefieldx ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's literally half of the bo4 experience lol wdym just?💀

  • @Svabby
    @Svabby 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    BO4 muiltplayer was goated. I love the health and healing system you can out play players. Heist was also fun.

    • @WhiteVipor
      @WhiteVipor ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Love the heist game mode. Wish they brought it back

    • @Svabby
      @Svabby ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@WhiteVipor honestly such a fun game-mode

  • @kwdg3219
    @kwdg3219 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    my first week of playing bo4 zombies was literally just me complaining about how i was getting sideswiped by EVERYTHING- it felt like no matter which movements i made i was getting punished for it too which was very demotivating.

    • @BaldTorment
      @BaldTorment 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      the bo4 zombies have huge hitboxes and it's so annoying

  • @discoalice
    @discoalice 2 ปีที่แล้ว +155

    Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis The Wise? I thought not. It’s not a story the Jedi would tell you. It’s a Sith legend. Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith, so powerful and so wise he could use the Force to influence the midichlorians to create life… He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even keep the ones he cared about from dying. The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so powerful… the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice killed him in his sleep. Ironic. He could save others from death, but not himself

    • @commanderwolffe1475
      @commanderwolffe1475 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.

    • @ispepsiokay411
      @ispepsiokay411 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Is it possible to learn this power?

    • @UltimatelyProficient
      @UltimatelyProficient 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@ispepsiokay411 Not from a Jedi.

    • @joe9739
      @joe9739 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I thought these things smelled bad on the outside!!

    • @officialSTR1FE
      @officialSTR1FE ปีที่แล้ว

      I AM the Senate.

  • @truthzy1668
    @truthzy1668 2 ปีที่แล้ว +548

    It’s crazy how everyone sees stuff different. I think BO4 is incredible and it’s one of my most played CODs and I’ve been playing since 2007. Only time I’ve gotten Dark Matter, master prestige in Multiplayer and Zombies and loved blackout. It’s nostalgic for me. To each there own though!

    • @andreasottohansen7338
      @andreasottohansen7338 ปีที่แล้ว +93

      and on the other end of the spectrum, you got someone like me who has been playing since 2004, who will never play it, because no campaign is a dealbreaker for me, since that is what i play for.

    • @truthzy1668
      @truthzy1668 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@andreasottohansen7338 fair enough. Makes sense.

    • @tezmundoalvarezthe1st335
      @tezmundoalvarezthe1st335 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      You are a god bo4 I have played more zombies than any other zombies

    • @tezmundoalvarezthe1st335
      @tezmundoalvarezthe1st335 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I am just doing my camos again I reset my bo4 about 20 times all other cods after bo4 are crap

    • @morningivy9006
      @morningivy9006 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I love this game in spite of its flaws. But boy do I sure hate its flaws. I think I've officially played it as much as I've played Black Ops 2, although I still think I was better at Black Ops 2. There are a lot of features from BO2 that I miss and wish they had added to BO4.

  • @platinume2316
    @platinume2316 2 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    Absolutely LOVED the multiplayer, felt very unique and a ton of weapons were fun to use. For zombies I never really played zombies much during the game’s cycle, however now i have been coming back to grind out easter eggs and for the new weapons. Having a great time.

    • @masterzombie161
      @masterzombie161 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Heist mode is definitely the best mode in the game. I know hardcore players from Modern warfare 2 who refuse to play the new cods just for Heist mode.

    • @AB-rv2lj
      @AB-rv2lj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@masterzombie161 most def heist mode is carrying this game

    • @dracotoy
      @dracotoy ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I went crazy on the mp, and im not even a huge cod fan. Even got dark matter

    • @mikepatrona472
      @mikepatrona472 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The last great competitive competition year to watch b04 champs was so good to watch

    • @hulkster4374
      @hulkster4374 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The dlc guns ruined the game honestly

  • @Quad373
    @Quad373 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I miss when you’d go on a small quest to build your specialist weapon, and when you wanted more perks you could do something cool to earn more perk slots, I remember how awesome it felt to get Double Tap II from a reward chest in Origins as your 5th perk and then dig up more perks.

    • @davemac9563
      @davemac9563 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      But looking up a guide to get such weapons without letting the player intuitively figure it out, that’s just not good game design. Maybe if it was like DE where you look it up once but then you just know how to do it next time.

    • @VivaLaZach
      @VivaLaZach 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Zombies was dead before this game because of shit like this. Added to much bullshit. Make it like waw or black ops 1 enough with all this dumb shit

  • @Figgi
    @Figgi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    BO4 is so underrated! The Chaos zombies maps were some of the best maps ever made. The problem with BO4 zombies was the perk system and elixir system, But the maps were amazing!

    • @gurkensohn9401
      @gurkensohn9401 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Let's not forget, who wanted way less overpowered gums? Correct, the TH-camrs and the community who copied their opinions! Trasharch should have never listened to all of them at all.

  • @Auruchius
    @Auruchius 2 ปีที่แล้ว +251

    While I do share alot of your criticisms about this game ranging from all aspects of what it had to offer, zombies is something I still had a lot of fun with, despite its MANY shortcomings. It's still really sad they never were able to fully see it through the end though but its very insightful to know what and how things went wrong behind the scenes. Really appreciate this video.

    • @underscorejenko
      @underscorejenko 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Agreed

    • @legorockstar2000
      @legorockstar2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      nah for me BO4 zombies was shit. I had fun with AW's zombies but does that mean I consider it good or a "cod zombies"? No. I returned the game after 24 hours regarding BO4, the only "new" COD I play is MW and that's just MP not even the campaign nor Warzone.

    • @beefysupreme
      @beefysupreme 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      kruppz pfp

    • @matthewadkins4379
      @matthewadkins4379 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@legorockstar2000 how can you say a game is shit if you returned it after one day? I agree the launch was rough but it got way better as it when on

    • @legorockstar2000
      @legorockstar2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@matthewadkins4379 because I literally finished the entire campaign, played multiplayer for hours, then played zombies for hours. I had the weekend off and decided to spend an entire 24 hours completing the entire game. I don't need thousands of hours to know if I think the game is good or not xD

  • @Ponch126
    @Ponch126 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Honestly, the first strike against the game was the announcement that there was no campaign

  • @Whiteythereaper
    @Whiteythereaper ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Newton's Cookbook was an end-of-life addition to BO3, added after the end of the initial year of maps. BO4 went balls to the wall Microtransactions and so Elixirs had to be pushed hard with no alternative, and the Game Closing exploit to save Gobblegums was well known so they made sure to punish everyone instead.

  • @emmanuelmatos6368
    @emmanuelmatos6368 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    31:19 right after Chopper said "and this is what they had to say" and ad started playing and it said "this is robbery"
    I died 😂😂

  • @diogoloureiro4842
    @diogoloureiro4842 2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Bro I've been playing bo4 zombies and although its not great, I'm having a lot of fun. Bo4 could have been better than Bo3 but unfortunately we all know why it failed. IX is a great zombies map tho.

    • @RichtofenMinion
      @RichtofenMinion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Finally someone with some sense. If u enjoy it play it. If not, fuck it off. No one hasa gun to ya head

    • @Jjgardner0214
      @Jjgardner0214 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The fact that these TH-camrs had RECORD NUMBERS during the BO4 year yet seemingly over the past few months especially made it their MISSION to completely dismiss and shit on this game atALLLLLLLL COSTS!
      Was it perfect???? Nope! News flash tho.... NONE OF THEM ARE!! Even. BO3 for all the praise it gets (and deserve) there's PLENTY OF things BO3 can be shredded for... Yet are often overlooked just to further their own narratives of BO3 GOAT... BO4 AND ITS "REDDIIT FANS" ARE STUPID 🙄!
      I'mSOOOOOO SICK of seeing these straight hit pieces every day now if seems !

    • @mike18317
      @mike18317 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I really like the zombies I fully agree it’s not perfect but the amount of content is insane compared to some games

    • @yinlo5876
      @yinlo5876 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      BO4 is awesome, it has the most custom settings and even bots for replay . I mean not every game has to be grind this grind that, sometimes you just play the game and enjoy. Guess that's why it kind of
      "failed" in their terms , it didn't make as much money

    • @TheGreyShaman
      @TheGreyShaman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jjgardner0214 they started with shitting on it though, nobody liked black ops 4 because they took out the ability to buy maps piece for piece forcing us to get a season pass.
      There was the chaos storyline getting some hate but people would have given it a chance if we weren’t forced to get it in the season pass.
      Not to mention the lack of certain perks and how they tried to remedy the situation.

  • @iielysiumx5811
    @iielysiumx5811 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The thing that made me give up on BO4 zombies was the fact it was no longer possible to load into a map and just work things out and have fun with it. You need tutorials, TH-cam videos basically full FAQ pages to work out what the hell is actually going on and how to do stuff. I feel like BO2 struck a great balance between working stuff out and complexity especially on origins and MOD

  • @RaginCanadian-gx2zl
    @RaginCanadian-gx2zl ปีที่แล้ว +4

    when you talked about the perks ascension came to mind. with good positioning and teamwork you can abuse the monkeys to get the perkks you dont have for protecting the perks you do have. and it works as risk/reward cause the more perks you have the harder it is to spread out and cover them all.

  • @Xpertfusion
    @Xpertfusion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I love BO4 zombies for the most part. Don’t have too many problems with it aside from a few obvious flaws

    • @kouriier6112
      @kouriier6112 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The only thing i really didnt like was the change to the point system. But after all these years i finally got over it. I hope it returns in the next zombies game though

  • @goobiethegreat_2484
    @goobiethegreat_2484 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    I enjoyed Bo4’s multiplayer a lot more than Bo3’s. I found myself always having fun and getting hyped while playing multiplayer, and the OG maps from Bo1 that were remastered were a real fun way to feel nostalgia while still having a lot of fun. Zombies was honestly in my top 5 best zombies in my book, the uniqueness of this zombies made it so interesting to me, the complexity of some of the maps too was definitely a new fresh feeling with zombies since most of the maps I’ve played are relatively simple yet fun maps, Bo4 zombies IX is in my top 3 favorites just because of its theme, complexity, and most of all uniqueness, that’s all I gotta need for a map to be exciting to me

    • @victormartinezv2716
      @victormartinezv2716 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Same bro I thought bo4 was miles miles above bo3 I liked IW more than bo3 lol

    • @goobiethegreat_2484
      @goobiethegreat_2484 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@victormartinezv2716 IW is like one of my fav cod’s 😭 I love the zombies on IW, especially how each film (map) was set in a different era and how every film was unique compared to the other ones, the campaign was awesome too, but multiplayer kinda sucked balls, but bo4 was definitely a lot better than bo3 in my opinion, but at least bo3 had a campaign 💀

    • @truthzy1668
      @truthzy1668 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@goobiethegreat_2484 so many CODs are good and get push under the rug. No COD, even vanguard, is objectively bad imo. Just all personal preference. I’ve played since 2007 and don’t like MW2 and love AW and BO3

    • @justinlast2lastharder749
      @justinlast2lastharder749 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In your Top 5 Zombies? How does that mean anything when there are only 8 iterations of Zombies and Exo Zombies?

    • @justinlast2lastharder749
      @justinlast2lastharder749 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In your Top 5 Zombies? There aren't even 10 iterations of Zombies.

  • @CrammyCram
    @CrammyCram ปีที่แล้ว +2

    black ops 4 was the 4th call of duty I ever played, which I think is why it amazes me so much.
    I think people set the bar to high on CoD now because of how good the old games were.
    But from a new player, the games are still wonderful and lovely to play.
    Black ops 4 is one of my favorite call of duty games.
    The movement was fun, the maps were interesting and bright, and the zombies was simple and fun.
    The blackout mode was fantastic and multiplayer is great.

  • @LuvzToLol21
    @LuvzToLol21 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When BO4 was announced, BO3 was already 2 years old. Revelations had a bizarre ending that left us with more questions than answers. What the hell is going on? Why was Primis sent back in time? What is Richtofen's plan?
    And then we got 2 years straight of non-Treyarch zombies, first in IW then WWII. These zombies spinoffs were fine and the stories and characters were at the very least decent, but we knew that just like Extinction and Exo Zombies we weren't likely to ever see them again. But what we were all really waiting for was answers and a conclusion to the Treyarch zombies story we all knew and loved.
    You could feel the disappointment in the room when the Chaos story was introduced, yet another completely separate story with yet another new cast of characters, compared to the roar of the crowd when Blood of the Dead was shown.

  • @AbyssalWaste001
    @AbyssalWaste001 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    ive recently started playing bo3 zombies again and relearning all the easter egg steps and little things that make the game easier have been such an easier experience, that listening and watching this video explaining the steps in bo4 maps gave me an actual headache trying to keep up. i need to defuse with some origins

    • @ahkosorsomesaykosby9999
      @ahkosorsomesaykosby9999 ปีที่แล้ว

      What bro origins is more complicated than blood of the dead unless you want the hells redeemer and maybe the upgraded shield botd is simple as Alcatraz pocket dimension purgatory German trapping machine hell

    • @calebstevens9446
      @calebstevens9446 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ahkosorsomesaykosby9999 getting the staff you want is the most brainless shit lmao? And upgrading it wasn’t calculus either dawg, and the map had a flow as well, you didn’t usually run around from spot back to the other to go back to that same original spot like bo4, you’d go all around the map then look back or stay in one spot. Even digging up the ice staff had you going to different parts of the map, same for the wind staff, you had to go into all 3 robots, and pack a punch wasn’t a Easter egg in itself either which imo was one of the worst mistakes they ever made. Why would that b so hard to obtain when pack a punch weapons don’t make or break the game? Anyways, origins is easily one of the Simpler new gen zombies maps, as it should b since it was one of the first of its kind, and that’s recognizable but for some reason feels so much better than all the extra shit you have to do in bo3 and 4.

  • @DaveTheChronicler
    @DaveTheChronicler 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I never played Bo3 but got really into Bo4 Zombies. Fully acknowledging the ups and downs of this game since there was a lot of frustrations at the time, to me looking back the only thing that keeps me from playing those maps casually is how many parts and things you need to do. If they had an Easy mode for the Easter Egg and didn't require me to spend 50 minutes crafting my kit I would probably still play daily, I really liked everything else with it.

    • @blinkin78
      @blinkin78 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Well I would suggest you go play black ops 3 zombies right now. Zombies peaked then.

    • @AliChitax
      @AliChitax 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You've been into BO4 zombies ??? You'll love BO3 ten times more, as it has 14 maps (full dlc) and has tons of custom fan made maps which will blow your mind(which bo4 doesn't have)

    • @MisfitDKhead
      @MisfitDKhead 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yea go play BO3 you are in for a treat my friend

    • @mvrius.mvximus
      @mvrius.mvximus ปีที่แล้ว

      Im so jealous, I would love to experience bo3 for the first time again, ngl peak zombies

  • @jedirayden
    @jedirayden 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As someone who pretty much quit Zombies with Black Ops 4, I'd love to see your breakdown of all the maps

  • @justtyler5675
    @justtyler5675 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    i Just bought bo4 its honestly really fun especially zombies

  • @erick4845jr
    @erick4845jr ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The multiplayer honestly felt like an arcade shooter you find at a movie theater

  • @Sweatyhunk
    @Sweatyhunk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was my favorite black ops game alongside bo2 and I’ve played through them all

  • @glennmorton1067
    @glennmorton1067 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video, managed to sum up all of my thoughts to a tee. Subscribing in the hope that you eventually do a deep dive into all of the zombies maps!

  • @jamesjames7601
    @jamesjames7601 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    In my mind, I like to believe BO4 never happened and the other day when discussing COD with a friend, in my head I immediately thought of BO1, 2, 3, and Cold War. When my friend mentioned BO4 I really had to stop and remember that BO4 actually happened

    • @makaveli3189
      @makaveli3189 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Cold War shouldn’t be acknowledged either.

    • @jamesjames7601
      @jamesjames7601 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@makaveli3189 Then post your own comment about it lol

    • @makaveli3189
      @makaveli3189 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@jamesjames7601 Nah I’ll just post here to tell you how shit it is. Cause that’s what I feel like doing. Trash game. 🚮🚮

    • @jamesjames7601
      @jamesjames7601 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@makaveli3189 Maybe cry a bit more about it?

    • @makaveli3189
      @makaveli3189 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jamesjames7601 Cry about how trash Cold War is lol nobody even acknowledges it as a real zombies game. Only you dumb kids play it. 🚮🚮🚮

  • @KCDWolf
    @KCDWolf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    IX is one of my favorite maps ever.
    And the wolf perk was awesome!

  • @criptic453
    @criptic453 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hey Chop, great vid, you really go into detail on why bo4 was the way it was. im currently remaking botd on bo3 customs but adding/fixing parts of the map, gameplay mechanics and the ee, is there anything specific you would like to see? Would love to know what you would like to see.

  • @spa7us
    @spa7us 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I never thought id say it, but bo4 zombies has been my fav zombies experience. The perk system and complicated solo ees give it so much more replay value

    • @user-jy9ww8jz8b
      @user-jy9ww8jz8b 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Play bo3 bro bro

    • @spa7us
      @spa7us 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-jy9ww8jz8b I have

    • @WhiteVipor
      @WhiteVipor ปีที่แล้ว

      Agree with you 100% Honestly love the perk system and the easter eggs are much more fun to do than in BO3

  • @OzzersOz
    @OzzersOz ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Bo4 actually had my favourite MP of all time. I think the zombies have aged better over time as well, I don't think it was that bad.

  • @Elkatook666
    @Elkatook666 ปีที่แล้ว

    the last semblance of cooperative play was back in black ops 1 , once someone on the team got a VSAT , everyone managed to get their streaks !

  • @Alejandro_87
    @Alejandro_87 ปีที่แล้ว

    I regularly played with a group of my friends' work buddies and I had never met them in real life, just introduced over PSN. Blackout was beyond fun. It wasn't a perfect CoD but still one of the best experiences I've ever had in regards to gaming with friends.

  • @buttermanaws4693
    @buttermanaws4693 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I always say this but the main reason Bo4 killed my dedication for zombies was just how complicated things were you mentioned how many spots dead of the night has for stuff and look I will always be a zombies fan but doing any solo easter egg was just bs I did them all and it's impossible to do some of these on my own without a guide I never had this problem in Bo1 to (most) Bo3 it's just not fun having to spend 30 minutes doing what would probably be a easter egg in previous games just to get pack a punch
    All in all I have not any of the games since Bo4 and I do somewhat hope they do something to bring me back

    • @colinhunterbradley2467
      @colinhunterbradley2467 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Try Cold War zombies. They emphasized simplicity and gameplay over all the frustrating fetch quests. I’ve managed to do all Easter eggs. It’s the first time I’ve been able to do any, really.

    • @buttermanaws4693
      @buttermanaws4693 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@colinhunterbradley2467 I might one day if I ever find it on sale but for now I'll stay away from the series

    • @kodybauer9375
      @kodybauer9375 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Personally I like the complexity of it, I just dont like a ton of the steps themselves, lots of them are just annoying and tedious. Like having to hold interact on the kronorium run all the way down the tunnel, blast, run all the way to wherever the orb is and blast. Every. Round. Do you prefer simplicity?

    • @buttermanaws4693
      @buttermanaws4693 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kodybauer9375 @Kody Bauer im ok with complex stuff but when it's waiting 2-3 rounds, morse code, more than 3 locations for the needed item stuff like you mentioned that I just find them more annoying than challenging and since I usually play solo steps that take more than a few seconds that isn't just wait and defend are far harder to do

    • @kodybauer9375
      @kodybauer9375 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@buttermanaws4693 I get that, I think I prefer steps such as in Gorod Krovi, all the steps can be done with a team but the MK3s make up for being solo and for most of them make them super easy but then theres the bomb step which gets easier the less players there are time wise and the Mangler step which is annoying but it balances out how easy the other steps are with the MK3 if that makes sense

  • @el_bambino4804
    @el_bambino4804 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I actually enjoyed bo4 zombies it was fun and difficult but still had a lot of fun. Despite changed mechanics and builds that were brought I still enjoyed it. It does have one of my favorite maps of all time which is 9 or IX. Plus it made high round attempts so easy since the speacialist weapons are both op on both storylines. My only problem I had was t for the aether storyline. The maps were just remakes with a few changes and I really wished we got to fight in the Great War. Overall this zombies mode is one of my favorites just because of the difficulty

  • @Dopey_909
    @Dopey_909 ปีที่แล้ว

    BO4 multiplayer was so addicting. I remember getting to prestige 8 in about 2 weeks before I shipped out to navy boot camp lol. Don’t regret it one bit

  • @Kasey_Lloyd
    @Kasey_Lloyd 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    as someone with 1400 hours on ps4 Bo4, this was my highschool COD, only time i’ve gotten the mastery camo and learned zombies from it. Countless memories of speed running maps and doing easter eggs and hours of multiplayer when lobbies stayed together. Personally it’s a favorite cod for me but i’m glad to it brought me into the world of pre BO4 Zombies. Oh and black out was peak battle royal with friends

  • @tepidpit8737
    @tepidpit8737 2 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    I love these types of Videos! I know they take a lot longer than the average youtube video but I would debate have a better payoff. Keep up the good work!! 👍👍

  • @ragnarok935
    @ragnarok935 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bo4 may have been poorly received by the community but it's not as bad as vanguard. I would much rather play bo4 for the rest of my life than purchase vanguard

  • @bushitora
    @bushitora ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Video ! Imo black ops 2 was the pinnacle of zombies. I was in school at that time and everyone I knew played it and discussed it. what a time it was !

    • @ahkosorsomesaykosby9999
      @ahkosorsomesaykosby9999 ปีที่แล้ว

      No like personally the game was not the best the best is bo3 because chronicles and the fact that the only bad maps are in zombies chronicles I E moon or no bad maps if you like rng I E moon

  • @BobbJones
    @BobbJones 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the video I remember all of the b.s. surrounding bo4. Thats about the time zombies started going down hill.

  • @underscorejenko
    @underscorejenko 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    BO4 isn't perfect, but man I gotta say I loved all the different gamemodes such as Rush and all the Guantlets. Good vid 👌

    • @twu2293
      @twu2293 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Heist was my favorite game mode of all time

    • @underscorejenko
      @underscorejenko 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@twu2293 Yeah Heist was pretty hot

  • @beegee6559
    @beegee6559 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i thoroughly enjoyed this game. multiplayer was so much fun.

  • @rudydaberry122
    @rudydaberry122 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My 11-16 year old self was absolutely entranced with the cod zombies story line. Everything just kept building up over the years and I got more and more hype for zombies as each black ops iteration dropped. To this day I think bo3 zombies and bo3 as a whole is one of the best cods ever made and have so so so many memories that I cherish from
    This time I miss it so much. By the time bo3 was out I was so obsessed with the story and was sad when bo3 life cycles ended, but I knew there was going to more to come. When bo4 was announced and zombies was going to be back again I was so excited to see the culmination of all previous games to see how the story would be this time around. When blood of the dead was released and people played and did the Easter eggs I still was so happy and excited for the Easter eggs and story to be found, but eventually it all died down for me after the mid point of the bo4 life cycle. There were budget cuts and the zombies story was obviously getting rushed and it was so heartbreaking to me because it was something I had clinged onto from the years of 2010-2019. I was already 19 by the time the dlcs for bo4 were out and was so disappointed when zombies was going downhill and there was nothing I could do to stop it. I still payed attention to the story all the way up to tag der toten and had genuine tears from the ending cutscene, but after that I knew that it was over. It was done. Zombies had passed its crescendo long ago and nothing after it will ever be the same as it did from waw-bo3

  • @ToneZoneTC
    @ToneZoneTC ปีที่แล้ว

    Just came across your page like a couple weeks ago. Love your narrative style. Keep it up #respectthegrind

  • @shanematz4
    @shanematz4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Zombies on BO4 was the shit straight good

  • @MentalGunzRP
    @MentalGunzRP 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Its so disappointing to hear what kind of zombies experience we could have had. If they did year 1 aether, wrap it up nicely and properly before creating chaos for year 2 the game could have been amazing. I also never knew that BO4 had PaP levels. Im starting to feel like Cold War is a spiritual successor to BO4. It takes things BO4 tried and makes them better.

    • @kouriier6112
      @kouriier6112 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well they definitely didnt improve the story lol, alpha omega has better writing than the entirety of bocw

    • @MentalGunzRP
      @MentalGunzRP 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kouriier6112 Admittedly CWs story was so weak compared to previous games, same with the maps atmospheres.

    • @davemac9563
      @davemac9563 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We don’t know if any of the crap he says is true. For all we know this was the plan from the beginning. Maybe not the last two maps for zombies because they were suddenly pulled to make sledgehammers cod but aside from that, we don’t know what treyarch’s “original” plans were beyond what the game turned out to be. So don’t believe Chopper unless he has actual proof.

    • @MentalGunzRP
      @MentalGunzRP ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davemac9563 Have you not seen the leaked gameplay from the first build of the game? It backs up everything he says.

    • @davemac9563
      @davemac9563 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MentalGunzRP where is this footage then? If you have a link or any reference I’ll be happy to admit I fucked up. Besides zombie chronicles 2 rumors have been around for years, since 2017. So why should we suddenly believe it this time? Again, share a link or mention a source and then it’ll be valid.

  • @scottishboy112
    @scottishboy112 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    One thing about Easter eggs in Zombies.
    While they were disabled in Custom Mutations from the get go, they had at least side ones active in the normal game mode on the lowest difficulty then, sometime not too long after launch, even disabled that.
    Like, the main ones I fully understood… But side ones? Like the Samantha ‘HE SAID LEAVE HIM ALOOOONE!’ Door on classified? Seemed weird to randomly decide to disable things like that.

  • @yesman9792
    @yesman9792 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I loved Blackout. Ive played a lot of BRs but it struck such a good balance between being sweaty and casually playing after work. Warzone seems like its own animal entirely, like you cant have fun without being very good at it.

  • @Joe-hm1zk
    @Joe-hm1zk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    For some reason, BO4 was literally my favorite multiplayer experience of any COD. And I started playing in WaW.

  • @TheItalianoAssassino
    @TheItalianoAssassino ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not a big BR player, but I remember having fun in the Blackout Open Beta. The map design reminds me a bit of CSGO Danger Zone.

  • @Jotchuaa
    @Jotchuaa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Loves the gun play alot. Something about it satisfied me more than any other cod. Not my favorite cod but very satisfying the first months playing

  • @MrKakka666
    @MrKakka666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I loved Black Ops 3, easily a top 3 CoD for me, so when they announced the fourth one I pre-ordered it immidiately. After playing the Beta I cancelled my pre-order and haven’t touched the game since. Not even after it was free on PS Plus. Felt like they messed up all the thing that made BO3 great. Might have to go back and actually play the finished game one day tho

    • @Dendyaryadi
      @Dendyaryadi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ya don't fix something that is not broken
      treyach should put that on their office like they can just go make BO 3.5 AND it would still be great i dunno why they feel need to fix something that literally nobody complained

    • @matthewadkins4379
      @matthewadkins4379 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you like Easter eggs I would give it a shot there’s a lot of fun ones on bo4. If you just play for gameplay it’s probably not worth going back to

    • @gurkensohn9401
      @gurkensohn9401 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@matthewadkins4379 The gameplay is good. Just because TH-camrs tell you it's not doesn't make them be right.

    • @matthewadkins4379
      @matthewadkins4379 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gurkensohn9401 The early rounds are fine but I’m just not a fan of high rounds. I don’t like that the zombies are faster than you and how the best strategy is to camp. That’s just not as fun to me but the ee in bo4 are great

  • @mrsnovocaine3941
    @mrsnovocaine3941 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I honestly wish black ops 4 could still be worked on instead of making mid ass games like Cold War and vanguard :/

  • @spartanantonio437
    @spartanantonio437 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's funny cause if you jump on this game right now you can still find games instantly in all game modes but as someone who isn't even that much Cod I really like this game

  • @galaxy-eb9sp
    @galaxy-eb9sp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    personally, ive always felt BO4 is the ''new coke'' of black ops, it adds things that we dont want or care about when we already love the original and prefer it, then they tried to take it back with the later zombies map trying to capilitize on the original but the taste of ''new coke'' is still there

  • @williamjohnson8603
    @williamjohnson8603 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I had fun at zombies specially blood of the dead..i believe tryarch put all the budget of zombies at that map..it's was and still fun even with the new system but the later maps are the worst,blackout was a great idea and a lot of reference and feels like (even through the mode has been made for the new players)they made the content only for og players..multiplayer was better than BO3(for me) and a the characters feels a lot active during battles but OP guns ruined the experience a little.

    • @hellsredemption4914
      @hellsredemption4914 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Finally someone giving love to my boy blood of the dead

    • @BaldTorment
      @BaldTorment 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      botd was just recycling motd but making it way worse, it's still alright but if you have motd there's really no reason to play blood

    • @WhiteVipor
      @WhiteVipor ปีที่แล้ว

      Love blood but I don't think it beats IX or Ancient Evil. Those maps were incredible.

  • @bigbunn_
    @bigbunn_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I love bo4 honestly. Zombies especially is so good

    • @SnackPackaBowl
      @SnackPackaBowl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      For real people sleepin on bo4.

    • @hrithikmazumder7560
      @hrithikmazumder7560 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Bo4 underrated

    • @legorockstar2000
      @legorockstar2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      as an original zombies player, it was shit. WAW zombies is more fun than BO4 xD

    • @bigbunn_
      @bigbunn_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@legorockstar2000 as a bo1 player, it's a lot of fun other than AO which is poop.

    • @legorockstar2000
      @legorockstar2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bigbunn_you started at a different cod and that's okay but as an original zombies player, BO4 was the shittiest zombie game mode of them all, AW included.

  • @jamesnicks5367
    @jamesnicks5367 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A lot of this I didnt know about… and it just makes me so sad, going full Aether Year 1 with Chaos in year 2 ending with ZC2 would have genuinely been amazing… and I wish Treyarch and Blundell got full control of their own game… damn.
    This new 2 year cycle for COD should have come in earlier and this video just makes me love that choice more and more

  • @wshype2632
    @wshype2632 ปีที่แล้ว

    I level 1000ed multiplayer on Xbox within the first 1000 players on cod tracker. Afterwards I didn’t really have any point to play the game anymore. One thing I loved was that your level actually showed something unlike the new cods. Kinda intimidating when a level 1000 joins the lobby of an S&D game.

  • @godawgs123
    @godawgs123 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Lmao a couple months ago I bought bo4 for zombies (didnt really come back to cod from one of the super boosters till Cold War) and your explanation on how complex loading up a game was literally me. I ended up booting up a game of blood with some bots(cuz that’s new) and they ruined my game. When I got back to the menu I looked for a second and was like nah I’m good 😂

  • @evanguideyt
    @evanguideyt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great video really enjoyed it, personally I never hated Bo4 always thought even tho it was far from perfect it was a fun zombies experience overall, sucks that we didn't get anything after tag because I heard that we were supposed to get ZC 2 and 2 more chaos and aether maps which I would have loved to see, but I think why alot of people are or were disappointed with Bo4 was because of how big of a bar it had to follow up to Bo3 which was an awesome zombies experience maybe even the best in terms of hype for zombies, they spent too much time on trying to compete with other games and put most time into blackout etc and Activision made Treyarch put out Bo4 a month earlier or something to go up against red dead redemption 2 and fortnite at the time which were at their peak in terms of hype so the game came out not ready which led it to be unplayable kinda sad to see but yeah personally I think Bo4 has gotten better with the release of cw and vanguard but that's my opinion personally, I think we can all agree vanguard is the worst zombies game we have gotten, I remember when everyone thought Bo4 was the worst they could do😂 how that aged badly

  • @angrynooblets34
    @angrynooblets34 ปีที่แล้ว

    I loved this game, played it a lot. Mp, zombies and blackout, all of it was lit. This actually might be my favorite cod after mw3 maybe.

  • @Dysmorphyx_
    @Dysmorphyx_ ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly I liked aloha omega and I knee something felt off but after finding out that the main team was pulled to work in Cold War so early that gives me a new perspective on bo4 and cold war

  • @leemoonaide
    @leemoonaide 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Shockingly while u at first hated this game, it's one of the most fun I've had playing with friends on zombies and it's also a game where we did all the ees (besides classified)

  • @0v3rd0s
    @0v3rd0s 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I honestly really liked BlackOps4. It's multiplayer was really smooth, balanced and the heroes were really neat.

  • @kaylo1680
    @kaylo1680 ปีที่แล้ว

    I unironically loved black ops 4 multiplayer (with the exception of prophet and zero, because they were both busted as hell). The gunplay was great and rewarded players that could sustain accuracy on a target rather than the first person who got the drop on the other. The zombies was take it or leave it on my part, I hadn't really enjoyed it since BO2 (I never could get into BO3s zombies despite all the good things said about it).

  • @SethizFTW
    @SethizFTW 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel like the progression is pretty nice in cold war, at least everything but the weapon kit upgrades right off the bat. I think salvage should of been implemented in a way where you have to craft a weapon.

  • @jonathanidrovo6957
    @jonathanidrovo6957 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    BO4 will always be an anomaly in my eyes, considering just how many things went wrong with Zombies. I’m glad it exists but MAN…
    P.S. I love the P5 Royal background music choice for the vid 😎

  • @TheExceptionalGamer
    @TheExceptionalGamer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I feel as though Treyarch and the community both set their standards incredibly high. The game was such a mixed bag with many ups and downs but overall it just missed the mark and I do think that this game can be enjoyed, but only in small doses due to all of its strange changes and alienating design choices. I get what Treyarch were going for, but it didn't quite make it.
    Well done Ch0p, you absolutely killed it with this video!

    • @gurkensohn9401
      @gurkensohn9401 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, you can actually enjoy it if you ignore the TH-camrs crying and complaining.

    • @calebstevens9446
      @calebstevens9446 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gurkensohn9401 or maybe just maybe, the other zombies experiences are simply better. From their spawn points on their respective maps, to the perk system bo4 (perks are worse in every way to the OGs from bo2 or b4) and the complexity of the maps. I mean there’s a reason mob buried and origins are in the top 10 maps indisputably and arguably top 5. They were innovative which is why they keep coming back to those first 3 games to pull stuff from for bo3, 4 and Cold War. You don’t get whole revamps (the giant, moon, and mob) by being ass. I’m surprised they didn’t redo buried but they really couldn’t and implement it into a story seamlessly as they did those.

  • @mrilycytdacr33pah8
    @mrilycytdacr33pah8 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know the word "rumor" isn't that great to use but what I heard years ago is that the developers created zombies (yes from the materials of world at war) but from what I was aware of was that it was created as something for them to keep busy with. Not purposefully but that's how it ended up. They finished the game and their boss thought it'd be good to throw in. Like a game part by gamers for gamers.

  • @AMan_629
    @AMan_629 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If they made bo4 and chaos it’s own game while continuing the aether storyline on bo3, it would’ve been so much better. Bo4’s new systems made it feel like a truly new zombies experience and it felt right for the chaos story but it severely hurt the aether storyline and how that experience felt throughout its decade long history. Bo3’s systems and mechanics are a lot better and suited aether so much more imo.

  • @LarryBaller
    @LarryBaller 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    While I agree with most of what you said in this, I did thoroughly enjoy BO4 MP and it was the first time I took the time to unlock all mastery camos. Zombies was fun but far from perfect, still put a lot of time in it. Great video though, keep it up Chop

    • @hinglemccringleberry9389
      @hinglemccringleberry9389 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah dude. I respect your opinion though.
      Even though I think the exact opposite

    • @LarryBaller
      @LarryBaller 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hinglemccringleberry9389 don't get me wrong, BO4 is far from my favorite cod mp, but I enjoyed it for what it was

    • @Halledoo
      @Halledoo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here. Me and my friends loved bo4 mp. It’s also the only mp I’ve gotten all the camos and hit max prestige

  • @Rakebab1
    @Rakebab1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Here faster than a jet for our guy Ch0pper

  • @callumjones9664
    @callumjones9664 ปีที่แล้ว

    One thing I’ve never seen mentioned that classified was locked behind the purchase of the season pass, which when we got it on the family ps4, we never bought it so we had blood of the dead and the 2 chaos maps

  • @deonisveryrare
    @deonisveryrare ปีที่แล้ว

    BO2 and Bo4 were the only times I’ve ever bought a
    Special edition for a game. Black ops 4 multiplayer is in my top best gaming experience but the zombies was a lil lack luster and I didn’t even bother completing a single Easter egg bc the zombies wasn’t compelling

  • @Jeffardy24
    @Jeffardy24 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You’re amazing at making informative videos like this. I’d like to add that I believe that bo4 would’ve been a lot better if it had its 2 year life cycle. A year of Aether with the Great War map and then a year with chaos. The multiplayer and campaign changes they wanted to make to break the cod cycle would have been great if they weren’t tied to cod. A game like that sounds amazing to me if done correctly and they wouldn’t have been able to do it because Activision wouldn’t fully support something so different

    • @gurkensohn9401
      @gurkensohn9401 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It would have been perfect if the Aether maps were no remakes and if our dear TH-camrs weren't complaining all the time and crying like kids.

    • @Jeffardy24
      @Jeffardy24 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gurkensohn9401 the format of bo4 was horrible, as well as the system in place. Their original intention seems like it would’ve been an incredible iteration of zombies. But fell flat unfortunately

  • @SinisterJester
    @SinisterJester 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Damn guess am the only one who loves COD IV. it has tons of cosmetics

  • @itsnotjinxx
    @itsnotjinxx ปีที่แล้ว

    I honestly loved the bo4 zombies, the perk system was refreshing, the guns having operator mods, specialist as soon as you spawn in. It was just a fun mode to play, different from normal zombies but in a good way, I enjoyed it, the mob of the dead remake was pretty cool as well

  • @thatbirdguy1345
    @thatbirdguy1345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seeing the primis crew standing in mob of the dead was on of the most exciting things ever for me and made me really excited for the map, it is now my least favourite map of all time

  • @ryanbollinger1759
    @ryanbollinger1759 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Bo4 was actually really great and I liked all of the maps except for Alpha Omega.
    I think IX, Ancient Evil, and Dead of the Night are phenomenal 10/10 maps.
    Chop, I like your content but sometimes you do this game so dirty, especially Dead of the Night man.
    Bo4 deserves so much more respect, it’s truly an underrated gem and it’s the second best game for zombies Imo.

  • @callumcranstoun9067
    @callumcranstoun9067 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I think I speak for everyone when I say we’d be more than happy to watch you break every map down in detail!

    • @gurkensohn9401
      @gurkensohn9401 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      More like hate on most things in BO4 zombies.

  • @kobagames420
    @kobagames420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    having to heal adds depth of realisium i honestly think this was a good idea it just annoying when u go to another cod game and u start trying to heal when ya dont need to

  • @godimready2go
    @godimready2go 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Simple, it didn’t have the jetpacks that made bo3 so good which alienated the fans of that style. While still having a futuristic feel which OG players also didn’t like.

  • @huntergoodon1839
    @huntergoodon1839 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I was genuinely mad that there was no campaign but after a while i grew to accept it because i thought that zombies was really good

  • @maazamin7884
    @maazamin7884 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I do disagree on a few things
    The tediousness of BO4 is overexaggurated
    Elixers are more balanced than gobblegums
    Specialist weapons would be fine if they didn't kill on activation

    • @callofdutymasterlive6135
      @callofdutymasterlive6135 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      fair they r just the same

    • @themonoloco8245
      @themonoloco8245 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @GSG After Dark whos was complaining for this nerf tho the zombies? U?

    • @ketamineheadyoda2248
      @ketamineheadyoda2248 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @GSG After Dark hey, fire sale was damn useful. Bo1 could have some usage for it with its easter eggs.

    • @gurkensohn9401
      @gurkensohn9401 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The TH-camrs and community whk copied TH-camrs opinions always complained to Treyarch that gums were too overpowered. They are the reason we got that.