A Little Overkill On The Baler
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ค. 2023
- Way to much tractor for the job as far as power but the T does control the baler more comfortably on the hills. Also did some more looking and found a few more tire options for a 10R 22.5 so the quest continues.
Good fix on the baler. They can either be fun to run when they work correctly or frustrating when they miss knots or lose a bearing somewhere. I used to like working on them. I miss that. Figuring out what a problem is on a baler takes some time, but getting it to bale a days worth of hay without a hang-up or a missed knot is a good day.
It’s a good feeling. Hopefully the problem is actually solved.
You really shouldn't apologize for explaining the way you did. It's through you explaining that we get a chance to learn more about things. I found it very interesting and helpful. I thank you for taking the time to share stuff with us, no matter what subject it is. That's one of the reasons I watch your channel. I really enjoyed seeing the baler at work and doing so much better. I'm glad you were able to finally get it figured out. It sure had me stumped. Like you, I was thinking how nice it would have been to have a few more acres to bale just because it was working well. See you soon.
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I do like videos where someone has a problem with something as you had with the baler, and they take the time to explain and show you the solution to remedy that problem is very satisfying. There may be 100 others watching with that same troubling problem. Thanks.
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You remind me of my experiences in the late 1950's and early 1960's on our dairy farm in the N/W Ala. We had a S-55 gasser that was used extensively bailing hay and cutting silage. Oliver has the finest in farm machinery. I enjoy using my restored 550 diesel that I bought in 2007 in memory of my growing up on Olivers.
Id like to find a 550 diesel to match.
Sorry.... Apologies not needed. Your knowledge and expertise with mechanical issues is well worth the watch. Thanks for taking the time. Take care. Fred.
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There never overkill with old equipment, it ain’t much but it’s honest work, I run my Uncles 1955 on our baler it works pretty good. Hope this years beans and Corn go well for you Ethan best of luck and keep on farming
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I know my dad and I have been converting the rear rims on our C70 over to the semi because nobody around us will fix a split rim anymore. But know we have out the semi rims on the back and they are fine. One truck that doesn’t go any further than out to the field and back still has old ones on one side and the semi rims on the other. If you would like I can take pictures and send them to you so you can have a look.
I just know that the tire shops here are carrying the change over rims for everyone to change over and it doesn’t seem to expensive.
Thanks for another great video, those bales certainly look better than they did before. Those old trucks are getting to be pain here in Canada with replacing old tires and certain rims. There is a company in Ontario called Military tires has a comprehensive web site might help you figure out tires and rims that are available from surplus. I can't remember it was a while ago i looked on forums, but some newer school bus tires might be smaller sized 22.5's that could fit other rims, so might be worth seeing about that if you know anybody involved with busses . I know our Ford Louisville was on 900x20's on Daytons, when they tossed their cookies we got lucky and found a set of 900x20 radials for the back of it that were on the correct rims. Now they are getting bad the 22.5 dayton rims turn up at the dump where guys changed to new style lug hubs and rims, so I grabbed 8 of them and still have 4 spare with good tires, you can't beat free. it just makes mom mad when I bring home more to put behind the workshop than I take somedays L.O.L . Take care
It’s getting a little harder to run these old trucks in general. Tires and brake parts just keep becoming more scarce.
Ran an 1850 and 620 baler for many years...memories!
I drove by your hay field yesterday and noticed it was done. Was hoping all went well for you. And, it was a nice rain today.
Those are some nice looking bales. My NH baler does a pretty good job of not missing bales, but I think I’m going to try to find that video to tune it up even better. I was always told to feed the baler as much as you can. It seems to thrive on big windrows or faster speeds. I try to tell my wife to drive as fast as I’m able to keep up on the wagon.
In full windrows speed doesn’t matter as much. In light windrows you have to run fast enough to keep the bale chamber full or it will load one side heavy and start making banana bales. The older New Holland’s with the feed forks on the heavy roller chain are the worst for it.
Olivers awesome,video great. Thanks Ethan👍👍
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Nice looking bales of hay Ethan. I can just smell the hay as you were baling. And, as I have mentioned before , I sure like listening to the 1950 T work
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Field looks great Ethan
Knotters can be frustrating! Glad you got it figured out. I will have to look for that video- sounds like it was really informative.
It was. I couldn’t find it again naturally
A half ton of quality hay, is still a half ton of quality hay. Better part of a month's worth of feed for a cow. Good to see YT videos doing what their original intent was (sharing information) Glad you got a welcome surprise too. LOL
Hopefully it actually fixed the problem
your vids and explainations are really great and your camera angles are very good! i worked in agric here in uk and di a great deal with new holland equip. brings back great memories,thank you
Thanks for watching
Looks like mowing machine and baler figured out.Looks like it cut nice and bales look good.
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Your bales are very nice just like bricks! I have new Holland now for second crop Pryor years with Oliver 720 great balers and you are very correct they have the same knotters. Very interesting on the bill hooks sure makes sense. Good job!! Thanks for your time and video.
720s are hogs but they don’t like light hay. Can’t keep them full enough.
Ethan that's awesome news you got the baler operating like it should. If you find that video that shows you how to set up the baler you should put it in the description or pinned comment that could be very helpful for some one. Thanks Michael
I tried to find it again but couldn’t
That little piece produced some nice hay, quite impressive by being seeded with a broadcast spreader, good job
Ya done good young man, those are some nice bales👍🏻keep em comin OFB, enjoy the vids🇺🇸
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Good fix Ethan, sometimes with a problem you hit the problem and it is fixed. Your old equipment has lots of years left.
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You may be able to check and see if it’s possible to swap hubs to the Dayton spoke wheels or the new style hub pilot 11r-22.5’s like semis run now. I’m swapping a international to the newer hub pilot and found the hubs and lug nuts at a truck salvage yard for $250/each
Good job on your baler Ethan
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Ethan 11R22.5's are the direct upgrade for 10.00-20's. They're almost exactly the same size, so that option would work. I hate the thought of giving money to China also, but they're also a good option for you. I have been around them on semis. They don't wear like they should for the money, but yours would age out before wearing out. Unfortunately there is no reasonably priced heavy truck tire nowadays. I don't like the idea of adapters, because I've seen too many guys with 1 tons on the side of the road missing wheels because of them. You could try to find one of those trucks in a junk yard with Dayton style hubs and change it over. Then you can just buy 22.5 Dayton rims and throw them on. Those rims are pretty cheap usually.
I’d never run adapters. To much liability.
My dad's uncle had an Oliver baler and we did to and we baled a lot of hay with ours
Takes me back watching my uncle John turning the rows using a petrol Ferguson and then his brother in law Jim baling with a New Holland pulled with I think! an old Davy Brown. And the smell of the hay!
The smell is always the best part.
A couple yrs ago I bought an old baler. When I made comment to a man about buying this baler , told him I could put it.back together. His comment you are a better them I am. He told me the name of a man that was good on new Holland knotters. I told him round balers do not have knotters!
Lol
You need a 207 Rake, they are awesome!
I went from 9.00x20s to 11r25 duals on my c60 and it works fine. I do have Dayton rims though, so finding rear rims was easy.
Yea those are a lot easier to find parts for.
Those 60-ts would make some bricks just like a new Holland
Yep
Thanks for that explanation. Bailed lots of small squares. But older guys did adjusting. I was labor! Lol.
Knotters are magic. That’s the moral of the story.
Are 60t I half to Emory paper the bill hooks every year after it sits , it has the Gauge wheel on the pick up there great bailers it been here on the farm as long as I have even have a parts bailer I got for cheap was gonna get scraped nope not today I said. Hay looks very good we both need some rain 🌧 From turkey creek farms be safe n thankful
I’ve got a parts baler coming.
Congratulations on winning the knotter battle. That can be a cuss-fest when you've got a bunch to bale and have nothing but knotter issues. When we were making small squares, seemed like dusty dry straw was more inclined to cause problems than hay. Straw seem less problematic with a little dew or a light sprinkle. Tires are another whole issue. Seems like used15 inch passenger/pickup tires are getting scarce when you don't need pricey implement tires for light duty.
I’m not going to count my chickens yet. It still only made 22 bales.
If it for some reason continues to be a problem try and go with a thicker twine, I had same problem this year after the old 8200 twine that came with my NH 315 bailer when I bought it ran out. I mean this twine was old, lincoln brand i beleive whos still in business and sold at farm and fleet or fleet farm up here in wisconsin. I looked everywhere for 8200, no dice so I went with 9000. Every 6-10 bales a knot would pop on me. Found online alot of old timers say to try thicker b4 adjusting and possibly messing up knotter worse. I put a few balls of 7200 in there and I haven't had a missed knot since then 185 bails later now.
I only use 7200.
Could have a machine shop make you a set of adapters to go from your lug pattern to a ten lug semi pattern. Then if you ever ruined a rim it’s no big deal plus could run aluminum wheels. A quality adapter should be plenty strong
Nothing says increased personal liability like a homemade wheel adapter.
@@Oliver66FarmBoy that’s why a machine shop does it or there’s company’s that specialize in it
Extra shear bolts in the toolbox!
Have you checked Specialty Tires of America (STA)? Super Transport and Super Traxion are made in America, Shows they have 10.00-20 but they are special order. They may have limited runs of them if you got on a list.
Oliver Baylor works great
Overkill R best kill...
Or..
Overkill is only the beginning!
Take your pick lol
Great job on the baler adjustments Ethan! Do you have a link for the video?
Couldn’t find it again.
A 11R 22.5 and 10.00 R20 is real close to the same demention
Go to a junk yard . Ask to see Budd Standard rims(not metric) from a school bus. The White Deer Fire Dept. gave $45 a piece for school bus rims.
I’d definitely rather have overkill on a baler than barely enough. Was just baling straw the other day with our NH 316 and 4020 and was punching out 6-7 flake bales 32-34” long at around 2-3mph. That sure worked both the baler and the tractor pretty good. Don’t know about Oliver balers but it seems New Holland balers are at their best when they’re kept full. Is that Oliver baler more 273/310/311 size?
Same size as a 66 hay liner.
Is the super 55 on the docket to get fixed this winter? Would love to see that project.
I don’t plan that far ahead. Important stuff gets money first.
How about super singles? Are rims and tires outrageous? I know cost can get CRAZY!
Can you give us a link to that video you talked about with the knotters
That super 55 starts real easy for it being a diesel
Yep
I wonder how close a 19.5 off like a f550 would be for boot and hub dimensions
Way to small.
Regarding the rims for the truck.
Could it be possible to have plates laser cut with the correct holes. Then make a jig to cut the center circle out of a standard semi rim.
The weld in the correct hole pattern to the rims.
I have seen it done to big tractor rims and You seem to have the setup and skills to do it precisely enough for high speed
Tractor rims don’t run 55 down the highway carrying 7-8 tons of grain.
Great phrase - She is a good girl. She is as ugly as hell, but she is loyal!
It’s the truth.
Is that oliver a 550 model what motor does it have
We had 550 with a waukeasaw motor
Super 55 144ci diesel.
The tales tell the tale. Lol
Yep
Holy crap pricey rims not to crazy on the China tire either.
Yea. It’s a fun problem
You may explain it later..
String is rated as either average strength or minimum strength depending on the brand.. we've have had to pull out string to get to a place where we could make more than a 20 pound bale before
Also coming from 14t John deere technology bale tension needs to be adjusted from feild to feild not just crop to crop..
My dad would always assume it was the baler not the operator..
He was baffled when we could adjust it so we could bale at 5mph and not miss a knot and he was breaking them at 2.2
Watched till end..
Stuff easy to find but I can attest to..
Good to let new seeding go to flower/head so that it puts nutrients back into the root..
2nd or third cut are better for quality of hay.
Unless you're a dairy farm and you need 22% protein.
Actually it’s not overkill I remember using a 2150 and 2255 on a new Holland baler back in the 80s worked perfectly sure, you miss it though
Is a little overkill for a baler I’ve comfortably ran with my 66.
The newer machines are even worse.Keep the older ones and try to keep them running!!!
Yep
Thought it was claas actually
They have a bill hook patent. It was used on a binder not a baler.
@@Oliver66FarmBoy oh thats right thank you
Well people have no problem eating Chinese food I don't know why they wouldn't put Chinese tires on your vehicle I'm sure they make them out of rubber
American Chinese food is more American than Chinese. But I would expect that attitude out of a lib.
You might as well put China tires on it. 99% of the tire companies are owned to buy the Chinese.
I’d expect that attitude from a lib. You generation is the one that sold this country off to foreign countries to the highest bidder anyhow so thanks for that.