Southern University vs Talladega College @ Bacchus Parade 2014
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- Only one word to describe this battle. EPIC! I took my time with this video for a reason.I hope you all enjoy this moment in history.
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Said they sound like a high school then proceed to play some high school s**t lmfao
Southern took this win. TC sound good but I expect that since their Director is a SU man himself and you can hear SU style in all their songs. Southern is the ultimate marching band. Trust me, when you put that SU uniform on your body the feeling is indescribable. You just know you are marching with the #1 ranked hbcu band on this planet. No other band can or will attempt to go out and drill the games halftime score. Southern is the only band who can successfully succeed drilling scores. That's a unique trademark of The Human Jukebox marching band.
Man SU trumpets just unreal in that 1st song!😲🎺🔥⬆⬆🔊💪
what fuckin octave is that and who kno the name of that song?
The song is I remember.. Them boys mashed a few super Cs....
Dayvon Savage do you know the second song southern played
It's levels to this shit SU ALL DAY!!!
Say wha u want but aint many bands if any outside the SWAC that could have stood there face 2 face wit da U for 45 mins #IMJUSTSAYIN
TC's baritones are illegal
0:30 is illegal
The fact that SU decided to chant that TC sounds like "a high school band" is a very high schoolish act in itself. Ijs
SU got slapped right in the mug in round one. They thought it was going to be an open and shut win for them, but we all saw that it came down to the wire instead. Whether the diehard SU fans admit it or not, this match-up is debatable in favor of either band.
So nobody else recognized one of SU's directors cussing somebody out at 4:40?
BigMacWitCheez I did and I’m guessing he was trying to throw hands
Both bands did a dam good good job little scratchy at the beginning s u trumpets but good job overall hope I can see you guys battle again with all of your soldiers next time no excuses
I enjoyed this better than the last 10 years of the BOTB in New Orleans.
We should start a petition to get TC in the SWAC thit will stop all the nonesense. parade season is cool don't get me wrong but you don't see a band at its peak unless its football season!
you should start a petition to get TC a football team then, right?
Damn I thought they we're working on that
Not only a football team, people have to realize it costs money to have athletic programs. They would have to meet all sorts of standards for others sports as well to play in the NCAA.
Southern's band director be bucking every time they perform. You can tell that he is really dedicated and he breath and lives this shit. Great job sir
504 Chill , Southern is a beast, in beast mode. Real Shit "..
Classic! But, I give it to Southern! Can't beat the U, baby!
Southern is more cleaner and Southern be killing those runs!!!!! I don't know why when people see a band leave they just automatically assume they are running from a match or they got blew out but that's not true. Southern knew that they gave them enough just what the deal was!!!!! Being a fellow B-tone Player, Talladega Baritones was Blowing though!!!
Stop it Su took a hit yesterday with TC. they opened their eyes to the fact TC man be a factor in the band world. A new comer shouldn't get that close to a tie or su up by 1 point. if this was the fall band we wouldn't be talking at all
Well said, sir. Well said!
Talladega College has stagger breathing on lock. I swear they never stop playing. Southern Took a L on this one. Yeah someone has came up from behind and spanked you SORRY Southern but you LOST
Talladega Band director is a juke.
Talladega blew Southern away with Holy Grail, but Talladega took a W!!!!
And Southern leave Feds Watching to NCAT and Savannah State 😂
SU lost an entire round due to the horrible ending of I need a doctor! I also feel like most people who attend or attended most bands are biased as hell. I've attended neither school.
Epic battle. And it doesn't matter if SU has their entire band or not. That's called an excuse people.
jacobie banks su go to war with half of there band missing and still as powerful and way cleaner than copydega ass
Southern Talladega was on you guys ass! Wow good job TC.
Instead of Cookman I Choose TC we are going to grow this year they have beat Alcorn State and they most defiantly won This BATTLE HANDS DOWN. I wanna help TC band grow if y'all haven't herd a new BEAST has been BORN.
that fool for Talladega in the crowd really has an angel on his side. people get their asses kicked in the N.O. for less!
this battle got boring after SU played better believe it. There was a reason SU said aye Talladega you sound like a high school band and SU got real basic afterwards. Beyond was a test to see if dega had anything to match. And they did not. Both bands were good I personally enjoyed Southern trust me there will be another battle and it's gonna be the better than this one you know talladega gotta prove a point. The only band that can go toe to toe with SU is JSU
***** open up yo ears bruh Tc playing high school songs lol and blowing it as loud as possible they ain't on college level they just big, loud and blowing Easy ass music!
SU' only match is JSU Talladega not bad at all tho just my opinion give em a few more years they will be
su tuba line killed every song lol
I'm a fan of SU and TC but I have to give it to SU why because a real battle is not bout how loud you can be if you don't have dynamics range volume and variety you'll sound like a high school band and Beyond is one of those songs that has all that in one now TC had thuggish thuggish but I was there in person it was kinda sloppy but SU won this one
If you feel Talladega is better than Southern University then you go there and best of luck to you. The first prerequisite to being a member of Jukebox 1. You must be able play. 2 must be able hear and to thirdly be able to march and play .
SU played all that old shit. I was waiting for that "Type of Way". Good job TC for taking them out though. I'm not saying it was a blowout but TC definitely copped the W.
NOW THIS IS WHAT I CALL A BATTLE
That's 60% of SU Band and yall saying its close or a tied Southern Automatically Take The W but if we going by Whats out there Talladega Won Bachuss Classic But SU I Think They Won Still
'To close this whole mess SU won this battle if any of yall pay attention SU didnt bring they whole band but TC band did, just think if SU brought the whole band for example SU have 20 tubas but its only like 10 there same for all the other sections... SU untouchable
So when SU takes an L to Famu they say "we had more power and they sounded weak for their size" and when they take an L to TC they say "they were just loud and sloppy"!
Y'all are kicks. TC actually had way less hangovers and sounded more crisp and full. Although SU has over all better arrangements. TC defeated SU 6 rounds to 4. The last round was a tie.
Tc btones..
Su trumpets ain't no joke!!
@J Harris
Not saying SU took an L, but I will point out flaws of both bands.
SU
TUBAS are not in sync. Different articulations and mismatched timing while playing their parts. When they take things up an octave it sounds God awful. They should stop doing that...forever.
TRUMPETS are always more focused on playing Fortissimo than actually playing together as a unit. Constant missed pitches, attempts at playing higher notes fall short (usually flat or a wrong pitch altogether) for the majority of those attempting. Runs are hardly ever cleanly articulated with every note heard clearly. Runs end up sounding like flutters for lack of a better term...
If balance among the entire band was an issue I might have more volume from Trombones and French Horns. They sound good enough to me it's just the Tyrannosaurus Baritones, off rhythm tubas, and God awful trumpets cover other sections up at times. This may not be factual. I'm making this judgement from the videos audio which might not accurately give us a good sense of volume for each instrument group. This is dependent on the mic used, number of mics used, placement of mic(s), and mixing and mastering of the videos audio if any was done...but you all don't care about that so I'll move on.
TC
FRENCH HORNS have potential. You can definitely hear them sounding great on some song selections. Unfortunately, you hear them extremely flat on other song selections and as the song continues they never seem to get back in tune or hit pitches spot on like I know they can. They are capable of doing so, but they need to be more consistent. Their range is great, hitting notes in upper registers like SU can. If I were to judge based off the video, I would say SU is more consistent in hitting higher pitches at the moment. SU French horns also stay in tune slightly more as a section giving them another edge over TC. BUT...for all you volume fanatics, TC was "louder".
CONCLUSION
The rest of TC brass section is cleaner than SU. Some argue that TC arrangements are a factor. That to me is just an excuse. SU does have more complex and musical arrangements, but (in concert terms) what good is a band playing a level 6 piece and not executing it properly? I'd take a band playing a level 4 piece and playing it well over a band messing up a beautiful level 6 arrangement.
Lastly, people argue that SU did not have their full band. Excuses are tools of incompetence. Based on the various video recording of this battle, TC seems more powerful.
Take a look at SU, they have 15 Tubas and they are legendary as this nearly untouchable SWAC band. TC has 17 Tubas (Very clean and cohesive tubas I might add). Does 2 tubas really make that much of a volume difference against the almighty SU? Because other than the tuba sections, both bands have a near even number of brass. I rest my case...
And for anyone who cares I have a BA in Music Technology with 4 years of Music Theory. I'm currently receiving a MFA in Sound Design. I have 13 years of experience in symphonic, jazz, and marching bands ranging from middle school to collegiate level. IM NO EXPERT, but I know a thing or two.
Totally Agree With You!
Let me educate both of you. One i agree about Southern tubas they need to play together more but if you have nothing to say about TC baritone or about the trumpets getting covered then your band must have been ass. I also noticed that you said tc was louder. 1st off revisit the video and observe how many people were in front of Southern then look at TC. People take up sound so you would never know how loud Southern was, also TC's baritone ever slightly above the band. Does this matter yes it does with 13 years of experience I shouldn't have to tell you why this fact is important nor should I have to say anything about the cleanliness of either band. Yes Southern was sloppy but TC was also trumpets with both bands were hitting and missing but with 13 years of experience you should know that EVERYTHING trumpet player misses that's just trumpets their ignorant and mess up great tunes. And if you have nothing to say about TC not having control then you have definitely wasted 13 years of your life. And in closing if you were to ever go to LMEA please do me a favor and bring a college band (because last i checked these are both college bands) and play a Grade 3 piece of music and please let me see the score sheet.
Brandon Diggs
How's it going Brandon?
I'm going to ignore your blatant disrespect in your comments and focus on your arguments only.
Neither band is perfect sir and I stated that. We all appreciate your opinions and critiques of TC.
I agree that a group of people, or any objects in front of a source of sound, will block or absorb some level of volume. If you are standing behind all these people, your ears are not hearing the full volume of the band you are trying to listen to.
However sir, take a look at 2:36 on the video and pause it. Our camera men at this event had the right idea. All the cameras are raised several feet above the heads of the people in the "crowd." I Don't think your argument is valid several feet above everyone's head, but at ground level yes it would be valid.
Next, the camera man for this video is obviously several feet closer to SU than he is TC. This means there were less people in front of this camera man on this video and there would have been less of a blocked sound for SU. My argument still stands based on the camera audio and distance from the camera to each band that TC had more volume. As you said, they had more people in front soaking up sound right? Oh, and they're further away from the camera.
I love SU Band's sound. Had not heard TC until now and I must say they are no chumps in the Battle. They deserve respect. Both bands repped hard for HBCUs.
Very impressed with Talladega. Nice sound. But SU is SU. Look forward to hearing more of Talladega in the future...
If SU took an L...then name 3 things "specific" things that TC did better than SU in this battle.
Antoine Dedmond
Thanks, I know who Miguel is as I'm from New Orleans, played at SU, and wrote music for different bands over the years. instagram.com/p/lM6mQBuWwC/
J Harris
yo J, I glanced at your instagram and noticed " The Roof and Spend some time" man those are great songs. I Marched for Miguel at Fortier in 98 before Brimmer returned. He is intense about taking it up an octave which sometimes left us sounding pretty bad, but overall I liked Bonds, He never ran from a battle and It made it exciting as a young band member. As an adult I got more into the overall essence of written music and the dynamics of each instrument. SU has Masterful writers, as well as tremendous Student arrangers. I honestly feel like SU has the best book of all HBCUs. Stll impressed at what Bonds is building at Talladega. Once he gets them use to more complex arrangements then an argument could be had on where they stand. I'm not going to jump to conclusions and say that Dega will be a top band cause I said that about TXSU and then they declined to almost irrelevancy. But Good luck to Dega. SU will never be duplicated tho.
mikedaflexta Thx, I did a ton tunes for different bands. dancing to the rhythm, Moving On, Sade by R Kelly, and more that all got a lot of love. Im grateful for being able to make folks happy. You can find NCAT, Kennedy, and Carver playing "Is It A Crime" on youtube. I still get tune requests for lots of directors but I'm done. Sorta lost the love and also had little time to focus on doing arrangements.
Anyway,
Nothing wrong with Miguel building a program. He seems to be a good motivator. Just wish TC had their own identity as that would have made it pretty special. I heard them last year and thought they had a very nice sound. Then I remembered my boy Eric French telling about something about them when I passed thru Alabama a while back. Heard them at the Baachus recently and they still had a nice sound. Peeped the SU battle on youtube and it seemed like they were trying to do to much.
As for as 8va's, I love em when they are played with control but you still need the support of the original pitches(as written). Most don't realize the simple physics(for lack of a better explanation)...as the pitch gets higher the tone pretty much gets thinner. Audible but may lack power. Give me a full and powerful band any day over a loud and empty one. It bugged me out to here my own arrangements where bands didnt play all the parts(chords and harmonies). That just took away from the sound of the arrangement. Don't get me started on Tubas and F-horns playing 8va's..smh. kills me for the most part...lol.
But hey it is what it is. New school bandhead stuff.
The fall band unit performed well played music as written. eight or nine btones are not going match 15 or 14 b tones blastin whole notes. I hope they could meet @ a battle of the bands during the football season find some sponsors to sponsor it Like Coca Cola and others -hold it in a Stadium Setting invite some high school bands maybe a swac band or another college band
I'll await with you bro on those responses. Ijs....
Southern WON this battle. Arrangements and song selections are key and TC doesn't have enough good songs. TC first song was strong and on point but then they started to go down hill after about 20 minutes. No one wants to hear George Michael or Billy Ocean. TC need better arrangements to outshine the mighty Human Jukebox. Southern made their point and exited. Every bandhead knows SU has an extensive book of songs and could have played all night. TC has a good band. They just need to invent their own identity and stop trying to copy Southerns. They will never become Southern. There will be only 1 Southern. If they wish to stop hearing the SU stigma, they need to stop writing arrangements on the SU style and using SU drills. If not, then they will remain in Southerns shadows forever and that would be sad. Just keeping it real TC and good luck to you guys.
I got 5 on sounds familiar! #BOOM
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You gotta give credit where credit is due. Southern is a world known power house. So for Talladega to be able to go toe to toe after being a program for only a matter of a few years..... THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES. They even have a catalog already and the band as a whole is disciplined which means they're hungry and eager to learn. They may sound like a "high school" now, but I give them a few years and they gonna be a force to be reckoned with. Ya'll better not sleep on Dega! But good battle overall!
Lillian Boden A few years has passed and now they're even worse!
As much as I want to be biased, TC musicality overall is better. Ofcourse Southern is the human jukebox for a reason. I was surprised
at some of those notes.
Yo band world TC got a after the battle commentary with fans and band alumni and it's looking like TC actually got that W. Go watch the link
Man DEGA over there crunk on SU i watch this video alot lol just to make sure I ain't trippin lol
su got the best band in the world
su feds watching go listen to the tubas at the break while they playing their low notes ... I heard Jr.high Nd high schools play their low way louder I was a freshman then Nd I could smack the shit out of those low C's Nd it sad cause these fools in college Nd they using small tuba mouthpieces juss to play high notes lol
A&T would take either sound quality wise
Not even on ya'll best day
Lmfao...
Yes U should be laughing
Lmao funniest comment
DSNCB919 thanks for the laugh because clearly you are delusional
Southern crank it up on dem boys there's where I'm a go for college after btw
I wish I could see this in person. Camera microphone can't handle how loud it is
TC IS HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A loud band does not make you a good band TC was very sloppy. SU won that one but JSU would have tore their ass up to. That's from a juke
I've been saying that all along....LOUD DOES NOT EQUAL GOOD.
And Su left because they had to start the parade
Talladega also went hard on "Get on My Level" but SU always my #1
TC was good but as the battle went on they sounded winded!!! They fought the good fight though to last that long with the Human Jukebox #levelstothisshit #getofftheporchTC
+1 on the hash tags
Yup....Surprisingly enough but, Southern, Talladega got yall on this one....Can't win em all.......They had more intensity and more clarity in there playing.....Which is normally the comment I would make for Southern! AWESOME job TC!!!
SOUTHERN !!!! Talladega looks like they pulled something from various SWAC bands. They don't appear to have an identity yet. I'm sure Dr. Jackson was flattered by their imitation. I remember Albany St. thought they were ready for Southern at one time. OFTEN IMITATED,but trust me, NEVER DUPLICATED !!!
s/o to tc!! i get goosebumps everytime i listen to happy...
I will say TC better get its book up if they want to challenge for supremacy. It's not all about blowing high F's and Ab's on every other song which were mostly rap tunes by the way. SU was killin them with those Mello runs. SU had me on their 2nd song.
how when on the 2nd song after the break the tempo was off ?
Maybe it did get off-tempo somewhere.....but I didn't hear TC play any runs like that
Yall ppl refuse to give another band credit . If another band going up against SU . Its always something that yall can find that makes SU better. A band could have just as many or more runs but the complaint will be that they weren't louder than SU or in this case . TC had sound but they arrangements were easy . If that's the case . Put SU on the field against some show bands . They will get ate up !
this one goes to SU. i am sorry. 'dega put up a good fight, but good arrangements will when every time. 'dega only got SU on "Happy" after that SU crushed their hopes after playing Daft Punks "Beyond". IT'S A WRAP...lol. many of 'dega selections was hard to decipher and too much overblowing to try to overpower SU. they lucky SU didn't bring their entire band. very high schoolish...get better 'dega.
TC!!!!!!!!
can someone give me the contact info for SU music dept. im fuxin suing, they done broke my Earforce PX21 TrutleBeach earphones wid this shyt. And they didn't put up a disclamer that they not responsibe for any damage to my shyt. Toooo Powerful
SU got slap in the beginning, but it took the same songs they been playing for da last couple of years to pull through. Talladega was lacking Mello's and Tubas an still held up pretty good though. I heard Talladega whole band didn't march. They sound got kind of weak on certain songs. I think the next time dis happen SU better take cover. Overall great battle!
I've watched this darn thing 4 times now. Each time SU wins by a wider margin. TC can play the hell out of some open whole notes. But these arrangements and that musicianship at TC just really cannot come close to the Jukebox. Real talk, everyone is all excited about TC because they are the new girl at the school. They cannot come close to any of the powers in the band world. That will take a long time. Marching bands are more than just playing. SU can do it all and that is what makes them #1 year in and year out. Can TC put on a great halftime show? No one knows... but I bet they would try to copy SU like they do for everything else.
I bet TC thought they won. I give much respect to them for bringing energy, but SU showed them what a college band should sound like clearly. I'm M4 till I die so no favoritism. TC is growing and getting better clearly. Overall good battle both. If I had to pick since nowadays ppl seem to have to have a winner. Then SU clearly.
SU HANDS DOWN.. Maybe in another 10 years,TC..Clean ya'll sound up and try again next Bacchus parade..
tc is not a match for southern full band wasn't even their go see port city botb then you will see the whole band vs tc
su feds watching go listen to the tubas at the break while they playing their low notes ... I heard Jr.high Nd high schools play their low way louder I was a freshman then Nd I could smack the shit out of those low C's Nd it sad cause these fools in college Nd they using small tuba mouthpieces juss to play high notes lol
Talladega went IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's funny how people say dega was loud , sloppy, and has easy arrangements from juke fans but this is basically dega using yal own style against yal... So wouldn't southern be insulting it's own style since miguel graduated from southern? Lol
Man i miss these days!
One of su band director was cussing somebody out ready to fight su was louder and better than this tc band
SU came out with some scars, but once again The Jukebox prevails.... SU BABY!!!
They did not beat Southern, but i can say they out southern Southern. 2016 they might have what it takes. TC don't have history so they play like they still in high school. but with some fine tuning and some more pieces they can be in my top 2
TC showed their ass and you southern fans need to realize that southern isn't what it used to be!!!! TC got in their ass plain and simple!!! And if you still believe southern is so powerful then why is it that such a weaker opponent push them too their limit in this battle??? Southern is so predictable nowadays that you know the songs their gonna play now!! When they can't play anything else they play "neck" as a last result just to get a crowd behind them and after that they're dead in the water!!!
tc b-tones did work 😳 but im a southern fan so i roll with them through whatever💯
Talladega is really kinda like a copy cat off of SU I really don't know why the battling each other but SU is better btw Tallageda killed it on that Happy song
southern win this wasn't even close the sound like swac better yall got to get yall feet wet talladega quit blasting southern only brought 150 they bigger plus botb they smashed yall
I've always been a southern fan and a fan talladega since there arrival but talladega did not win because there book is all rap songs and you really have to consider the consistency that will forever be in southern and hat talladega is still learning to what that really is but will never know until they fest have a season!!!!!!!!!
I DONT CARE WAT NOBODY SAY TC KILLED THESE DUDES WITH HOLY GRAIL BARITONES WERE FUCKIN AMAZING THIS IS COMING FROM A TUBA PLAYER TC ARTICULATION WAS WAYYYY BETTER POINT BLANK
First song SU played please? Band director be getting crunk. Lol. what is that song
Lol Su said they sound like a high school band then went from a college level band and Starr blowing high school music at tc with only half of the band
IDont Feel As If Either Side Lost. . .Due To The Fact That They Are Even Matched.
Su got in that ass with a half of band not taking anything away from TC but you get no pass thinking you did damage cause they half of there band.
I think SU win better overall sound but TC is on they ass to say only there second year men they are good but SU got this
what southern band teacher doing that stuff look like he doing a Micheal Jackson move
All i can say is nobody won but tc showed that they can go head to head with su
They can go head to head with HALF of THE JUKEBOX!!! Not the entire.
@SirGeekz I am not on SU bandwagon....not by a long shot. My original comment was to encourage TC to get better. Just because they gave SU a black eye doesn't mean they can just kick SU's tail any day. . It takes a little more than just being loud to Challenge for supremacy. You need volume, technicality, dynamics, and a book. I like TC and I think SU slept on them and got sucker punched. Kinda like what happened in 2000 when we (MBC) went to Baton Rouge.
TC clearly blew SU out sorry its a new band in town and blowing out almost every band out
I'm outside the lines of being bias for neither school. TC's issue is the tubas, the arrangements and the lack of technique. Sound and volume wise they are the exact twin to SU. Now if TC can play STEVIE WONDER's contusion like SU can, then I'll be totally convinced. But at this moment SU takes the W. TC, play more than just whole, half and quarter notes loud as hell and plays runs,8th and16th notes more often. Key word, technique. Sorry if it hurt and TC bias fans out there but I'm for neither side like I said. I'm all bout the sound I hear tight'n up TC.
I agree SU was killing those runs how many did you hear TC play they equally matched in Sound JSU is the Only School that can go Toe to Toe with SU.
Southern doesn’t bring the entire band during parade season but dam they hold their own outgunned and all
Not even Su whole band lol and they still blowing them mellos tho
lies told on youtube
all the excessive hangovers they have no control they letting them horns play them they not playing the horns
SU all day baby!!!! Lol SU said they sound like a high school band!!!
Su band director getting real with a nigga in the crowd while they were playing Beyond
Yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssssssssssss this is what im talkin bout baby
why nobody not saying that TC band director is a product of SU
Damn how far up is tc going to put there b-tones that's why they so loud
This is coming from the Bethune Cookman marching band fan good job Talladega college southen finally got what they been looking for
Southern wins. But Good battle tho!!
...........was waiting for "I gave it up" or Skin I'm In
what is the name of the first song southern played
SU !!!!!!!!! Yess Sir
Tc b tones rapped the while video they was eating
I like the song beyond after that annoying happy