@@liamconlan5015 don't worry most low IQ individuals would have gone there. Chelsea will have to show a loss of almost 60m if they terminate Mudryk's contract. for PSR reasons Chelsea would rather keep him and pay him rather than terminate his contract.
I'm not a Man Utd fan, but just to clarify & sprinkle a dose of reality onto the "debate". Rio Ferdinand swerved a drug test, but couldn't swerve the 9 month BAN.
Who says the clubs aren't in on it? In the 90's some Italian teams had systematic doping programs. Its naïve to think there is no doping in football due to the money involved.
In Australia supplements that contain substances banned by WADA or ASADA are usually labelled clearly not suitable for tested athletes. That being said I've only ever seen that label on pre-workout and gym supplements you can only buy online.
Players in UK have a list of banned items, it is also provided at there contract agreement. Every year this process is repeated, club doctors also have the list. If your a professional footballer buying "supplements" online - externally to your club - it brings the question what are you doing.
I knew it was only a matter of time before Simon dragged Eddie Hearn/Conor Benn into this argument despite this being a completely different sport - RentFree
22 yr old 'kid'.. 23 yr old 'kid'.. i find the term 'kid' challenging when EVERY kid coming into the system is briefed extensively from the time they are FAR younger about their responsibilites around this. They can vote.. they can become fathers.. they can drive a car.. they are responsible as adults for everything they do as is everyone else in the world and they have far more education and opportunity to access support around nutrition and supplements from professionals!!! It is the basis of the profession they are paid MILLIONS of dollars to perform. Kicking a ball into a net. Sorry, no sympathy. Go spend a year or two, while you are banned, in a resort with around the clock training facilites.. as your wealth lets you do... and come back and try again. Merry Xmas!!
From what i've heard there's a 'nod and wink' culture between clubs and testers where the testing is not random at all. Certain players in squads are tested in-house to be sure they are clean and they are offered up to the external testing regime.This is why i imagine Mudryk's failed test is genuinely inadvertent. Remember, there is the three strikes rule that can be exploited if there's anydoubt that a player's system contains detectable banned substances. Mudryk would have been made unavailable (strike one).
Athletes tested and chosen at random, not “offered” by the club. Otherwise Maradona would not have been offered up to be caught! In track & field, tennis, boxing, etc they’re regularly tested on a regimen. And the protocol is strict. Get it?
It does not matter what the substance is or how it got into your body, you are responsible for the fact it is in your body. Having worked as staff at pro football clubs, the players are provided with a list of all banned substances along with a list of all over the counter medicines and supplements to avoid. Infact the clubs I worked for the players where told "DO NOT TAKE ANYTHING UNLESS IT IS CLEARED BY MEDICAL STAFF FIRST"!
@@aliverbirduponmychest3055 so your saying if I go to a restaurant and have a steak and eat it and they use some kind of chemical to grow the cow or whatever. I fully known I had that chemical inside my body, that make so sense buddy
@@aliverbirduponmychest3055 going back to the Mendy one right he took some pain pills that his wife had because he had a serious case of migraines not knowing there was drug tha FA banned on right, so you saying he knew that was in it and took it anyways
There has to be zero tolerance approach. As soon as they start blurring lines, it becomes a huge legal battle. Still, I can't imagine how sports people cope with eating out, buying products off shelves etc. Seems like it would be fairly easy to dope someone without their knowledge. Although that's an aside......
he may be a herrrrrbert but at least simon backs the courage of his convictions despite being in such an invidious position. enough squaring the circle, the guys a berk and a herbert.
What you 🤡 don't realise is he is only 23 and a 4 year ban , he comes back in 4 years at a good age, so he still has years ahead of him to play again. So it's not lost.... what he trying to do now is play victim nor to put off potential suitors as he will say as he says I'm innocent. Know the facts ....
@@jahmalwilliam6049 Grow up. Four years outside the game means he won't return to where he is now. Do you seriously think he'd be able to retain the same fitness levels for four years? Do me a favor!
Mudryk needs to become a registered asthmatic so he can use inhalers containing steroids. Most Liverpool FC players are this, which is a statistical anomoly in of itself.
Part of it is that the testing picks up anything. So it could’ve been a picogram which is a fraction of a single piece of sand that could come from anything and your career is ruined.
Hayyy mate I wouldn't take it there cause Martinelli has had the same impact as mudryk before and after him being banned or atleast will have that impact after mudryk is banned
@@arnoldsaunders6073 Yes, the fee has already been reflected in the accounts and amortised over the life of the contract. The wages, if the contract is terminated, could come off and be freed up for further spending. This could indeed be a way to get rid of a dud player (and there have been allegations in the distant past that clubs have tried this), but there are a few issues with that. Firstly, he's not enough of a dud that he couldn't be sold, especially given that he's on relatively low wages. Secondly, there is a lot of uncertainty about what would happen to Chelsea's PSR if the contract were to be terminated - they were able to significantly lower the impact of this signing by amortising over the 8 years of his contract. Could they still rely on that if the contract is no longer valid, or do they have to book it, say, as a one-time charge when they terminate? This doesn't look, on the face of it, to be the sort of thing Chelsea would want to do. They've had a history of selling their duds to SA and other related parties, it would seem a likelier, much more financially favourable and less risky route if they wanted rid.
MUDryk , the one thing ASSeNIL got right, not buying him!. Hopefully we can tear up his multi-millions contract, it's not like various managers haven't given him chances 😢.
high profile drug cheat, don’t think it’s crazy to mention him, Armstrong got mentioned when a UFC fighter popped for the same thing so not sure what your point is?!
@JCRule69 known drug cheat gets mentioned in a conversation about a potential drug cheat. Yeah there's definitely an agenda. Maybe Henn should come out and prove his two failed drug tests were false
CONSPIRACY THEORY: Chelsea FC spiked Mudryk to test positive and thus can cancel his ridiculously long contract without fear of a payout because they realised he isn't any good and want rid of him....... Thoughts?
They've paid and booked the transfer fee, so they're not getting out of that. He's reportedly on 100k pw, which isn't that much by PL standards. He's not been bad enough that they couldn't sell him at a loss, especially given they've got some related parties who've picked up their other duds previously. Doesn't seem likely they'd do this when they can likely sell him for 20-30m, his wages as a liability isn't higher than that, so they could even afford to subsidise them partially to faciliate a move. There's also the issue of PSR. Chelsea amortised his transfer fee over the 8 years of his contract. What happens if it's terminated, do they have to book the remainder in the fiscal year they terminate? Could be a problem, or at least risk/uncertainty, and one they couldn't resolve ahead of time - they'd have to ask the PL how they would treat such an event for PSR purposes (as there isn't a precedent), and they'd have to ask before spiking him, which would come out and look terribly suspicious. I just don't see it
If you believe this strongly, please go to the papers, accuse him of the crime then make sure you leave your full name address and contact number in case his lawyers need to reach you for you to convince them to either drop him as a client or have your day in court. You may potentially wind up as the defendant but you need to rise up!
We can’t say anything till we get numbers of the test. Was he over by .01 or was it a huge number. This “drug” can be found in Eastern Europe with milk, water, and chicken.
Pogba’s American supplement argument was total BS. The labels are VERY CLEAR on what’s inside them. I bet they ordered a bottle of the supplement then laughed when it came in the mail.
Why are the clubs not supplying the supplements? If Ur paying someone millions to be at the peak of his fitness why are they trusting him to use his own bought supplements.
Simon can not help himself, has to mention Benn. What happens if the supplement he took had one batch which was contaminated with there usual batches ok to use, that would be the companies issue and nothing he could do
If what we saw of him was with drugs, imagine how he'd be without them
He isn't a bad player - he's just not good enough for Chelsea
He’d probably be better. Right now he’s tweaking.
These aren't drugs mate.
If you really believe dope is the same as cocaine or whatever...
You won't have a happy life
@ brother they are are all drugs. Live a clean life and you will see clear. I pray for you at this holy but uncertain time.
His issue is ball IQ, not his skills
Even now using the “up to £89m” 😂😂😂😂😂 this media
What ever will we do without our 4th choice LW ?!!!
How much did you spend on mudryk?
Chelsea signed him on a 20 year contract didn’t they?😂
@@ps7711 less than utd spent on antony
Who gonna be our 4th choice...its gonna be end of the world.... Noooooooooo.... Sykes i switch it🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@cebu7743can they not rip up his contract now?
Not even a Chelsea fan but the way Jim gets so excited over any negativity in sport is pathetic 🙄
Negativity sells unfortunately.
He's definitely got a stiffy under the desk
What a Karen you are, man’s doing his job that’s a complete assumption with no substance to it
This is modern life now. Sensation sells. Castigating jim for it is far too late.
That's UK media for you in a nutshell. If it's possible for them, they will want a negative news every seconds
Done for taking performance decreasing drugs
this comment is underrated
😂😂😂😂
Lmfao, haven’t used that in a while, well done sir Gaz
😂😂😂
I wonder if Chelsea had seen enough and "dosed him up" so they could terminate his 8 year contract 😂😂
I just said this 😂
100%, first place my brain went.
@@liamconlan5015 don't worry most low IQ individuals would have gone there. Chelsea will have to show a loss of almost 60m if they terminate Mudryk's contract. for PSR reasons Chelsea would rather keep him and pay him rather than terminate his contract.
@@liamconlan5015You've got a warped brain 😂
They probably grassed him up as well 😂
so Mykhailo mudryk was abusing drugs for just 5 league goals in 3 seasons??
Imagine if he was sober....
Literally came in 2023 and we’re in 2024 somehow 3 seasons lol
@@tawedzerwazhou9951He’s played in 3 separate seasons. Not 3 full seasons. 22/23, 23/24, 24/25
@tawedzerwazhou9951 It's his third season at Chelsea, can you count with fingers you mug?
Are you illiterate?@leedots3205
A routine urine test? That's just taking the piss...
Well done Sir! 😂 LMAO
Leave it
Waiting for the news when they blame Putin..
Yeah his name is splashed all over the papers
Get your coat 😂
His dealer said he was clean
Strict liability is Simon’s favourite phrase
ask Rio Ferdinand, he knows all about avoiding drug charges.
How so when he was banned
The fact he claims he is innocent is bizarre, he avoided consecutive tests for a reason
He got banned for 9 months. He didn’t avoid anything
I'm not a Man Utd fan, but just to clarify & sprinkle a dose of reality onto the "debate". Rio Ferdinand swerved a drug test, but couldn't swerve the 9 month BAN.
Its was not only Rio at The time Roy Keane Giggs and Verron were cought at The time taken drugs but united paid alot of money to FA and uefa
Everyone is on steroids ..- Nate Diaz
Remember Adrian Mutu?
He took cocaine, a recreational drug. Mudryk has been caught with performance-enhancing substances
That was coke
The way he was treated was a joke really. I’m not justifying recreational drugs but if he’d been playing well Chelsea would have stuck by him.
Strong possibility that Mudryk has his contract terminated by Chelsea too.
@@capio78chelsea would probably be happy with this as they can now sue him, they done the same with mutu
very unfortunate for such a hard working lad... hope it works out in his favor.
you would think the club would provide ALL supplements and medications to the players.
Who says the clubs aren't in on it? In the 90's some Italian teams had systematic doping programs. Its naïve to think there is no doping in football due to the money involved.
well the test was back in October during international break. so it would have to be something from Ukraine or eastern europe
I could see how contaminated drugs supplements could easily be taken , I hope he has a chance to prove himself
It happened after the international break. He was tested in October and was clean
It's strange, they come down on players and small clubs very hard but City get away with 115 charges like it didn't exist....
City didn't take drugs
130 chargers now
City are a small club lmao 😂😂
In Australia supplements that contain substances banned by WADA or ASADA are usually labelled clearly not suitable for tested athletes. That being said I've only ever seen that label on pre-workout and gym supplements you can only buy online.
Players in UK have a list of banned items, it is also provided at there contract agreement. Every year this process is repeated, club doctors also have the list. If your a professional footballer buying "supplements" online - externally to your club - it brings the question what are you doing.
Sir Elite Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts
Oh well...I guess we'll have to use Sancho or Felix on the left...so sad...
Applying strict liability to this sort of issue is so stupid.
I think it's fair as long as the athlete is still benefitting from the doping.
With you Misha💙
So...Even if someone spikes you with something and ypu can prove it you still get banned?
He can go fight for his country now
Sensational Jim at it again
That 8 year contract is looking good value 👀😂😂
Perhaps the club can cancel the contract without liability if the ban is upheld. Morality clause could've been inserted
I liked Mudrky i hoped he would do better at Chelsea, hopefully this isnt true and he can get back to football.
Imagine a day every premier league player gets tested on the same day 😳
feel bad for mudryk nothings gone well for him since he joined chelsea
Yeah you’re right. 8 year deal, 80k a week. Tough luck.
@@alexlanemusic of course yeah money = happiness
He can go back to what he’s actually good at, shilling for Zelenskyy and Greater Israel
woke ukie buy
Yeah I feel the same. And maybe he turned to PED’s in desperation to save his career.
I knew it was only a matter of time before Simon dragged Eddie Hearn/Conor Benn into this argument despite this being a completely different sport - RentFree
Shouldn’t be an issue to be fair as he’s on a 27 year contract
22 yr old 'kid'.. 23 yr old 'kid'.. i find the term 'kid' challenging when EVERY kid coming into the system is briefed extensively from the time they are FAR younger about their responsibilites around this. They can vote.. they can become fathers.. they can drive a car.. they are responsible as adults for everything they do as is everyone else in the world and they have far more education and opportunity to access support around nutrition and supplements from professionals!!! It is the basis of the profession they are paid MILLIONS of dollars to perform. Kicking a ball into a net. Sorry, no sympathy. Go spend a year or two, while you are banned, in a resort with around the clock training facilites.. as your wealth lets you do... and come back and try again. Merry Xmas!!
Players are being asked to play more and more games at the highest level and intensity, this will be a regular occurrence to help them recover
Think that is also the same substance Povetkin (Boxing) popped for
"I didn't knowingly take a banned substance," or "I look forward to my day in court to clear myself of these charges,"...they all say the same thing.
From what i've heard there's a 'nod and wink' culture between clubs and testers where the testing is not random at all. Certain players in squads are tested in-house to be sure they are clean and they are offered up to the external testing regime.This is why i imagine Mudryk's failed test is genuinely inadvertent. Remember, there is the three strikes rule that can be exploited if there's anydoubt that a player's system contains detectable banned substances. Mudryk would have been made unavailable (strike one).
Athletes tested and chosen at random, not “offered” by the club. Otherwise Maradona would not have been offered up to be caught! In track & field, tennis, boxing, etc they’re regularly tested on a regimen. And the protocol is strict. Get it?
It does not matter what the substance is or how it got into your body, you are responsible for the fact it is in your body. Having worked as staff at pro football clubs, the players are provided with a list of all banned substances along with a list of all over the counter medicines and supplements to avoid. Infact the clubs I worked for the players where told "DO NOT TAKE ANYTHING UNLESS IT IS CLEARED BY MEDICAL STAFF FIRST"!
@@aliverbirduponmychest3055 so your saying if I go to a restaurant and have a steak and eat it and they use some kind of chemical to grow the cow or whatever. I fully known I had that chemical inside my body, that make so sense buddy
@@aliverbirduponmychest3055 going back to the Mendy one right he took some pain pills that his wife had because he had a serious case of migraines not knowing there was drug tha FA banned on right, so you saying he knew that was in it and took it anyways
There has to be zero tolerance approach. As soon as they start blurring lines, it becomes a huge legal battle. Still, I can't imagine how sports people cope with eating out, buying products off shelves etc. Seems like it would be fairly easy to dope someone without their knowledge. Although that's an aside......
@ I understand but remember football player still have personal life don’t forget there are family gatherings family outings family dinners
@ say football player spend 80 at the club cause it still classify as a job but that 20 percent is spend with the own family
As an Arsenal fan - my word we dodged a bullet there!
Shocking 😲
he may be a herrrrrbert but at least simon backs the courage of his convictions despite being in such an invidious position. enough squaring the circle, the guys a berk and a herbert.
This is when an 8 year contract comes in handy
That contract will be ripped up mate if he’s found guilty. Mudryk has thrown away life changing money here.
You think there are no clauses in the contract about failing drug tests?
What you 🤡 don't realise is he is only 23 and a 4 year ban , he comes back in 4 years at a good age, so he still has years ahead of him to play again. So it's not lost.... what he trying to do now is play victim nor to put off potential suitors as he will say as he says I'm innocent. Know the facts ....
@Insertnamehere287 also life changing money to who ? He only 23 and can always make that money back..... simple....
@@jahmalwilliam6049 Grow up. Four years outside the game means he won't return to where he is now. Do you seriously think he'd be able to retain the same fitness levels for four years? Do me a favor!
Key word 'knowingly'. Good lawyer talk right there
Well it,s not performance enhancing that,s for sure
Mudryk needs to become a registered asthmatic so he can use inhalers containing steroids. Most Liverpool FC players are this, which is a statistical anomoly in of itself.
Only Liverpool? Hahah
Presumably these were not performance enhancing drugs....
Part of it is that the testing picks up anything. So it could’ve been a picogram which is a fraction of a single piece of sand that could come from anything and your career is ruined.
Lmao Jon jones lore
8.5 year deal? Madness
Which will be ripped up if he’s guilty of this, what an L from Mudryk.
What's the band substance? There are a lot of products out there now.
This is tragic.
First player to take performance reducing drugs hahahah
Chelsea snatched him under arsenal noses, dodged a bullet there
Hayyy mate I wouldn't take it there cause Martinelli has had the same impact as mudryk before and after him being banned or atleast will have that impact after mudryk is banned
Yep, but we got money back for Mount. So Mudryk may be a bust, but Utd got done.
And Arsenal signed havertz and sterling instead… great business 😂😂
@Mchelsea2924 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Don't forget the "experience" to help them win the league in Jorginho
You took other bullets from Chelsea.
Willian
Jorginho
Havertz
Sterling
Cech
All busted flash when we handed them over to you.
I hope he comes bck stronger. I liked him and thought he could be an amazing player for us ;)
Thats one way for Chelsea to get him of the books. More spending power now
Nope. The fee payed is still on the books.
Still lose the 100m you spent on him 😂
@james505ism 62 million initially. 60 million for Mount. If he gets a ban, no wages.
@@arnoldsaunders6073you’re right, it’s a bloody bargain
@@arnoldsaunders6073 Yes, the fee has already been reflected in the accounts and amortised over the life of the contract. The wages, if the contract is terminated, could come off and be freed up for further spending. This could indeed be a way to get rid of a dud player (and there have been allegations in the distant past that clubs have tried this), but there are a few issues with that. Firstly, he's not enough of a dud that he couldn't be sold, especially given that he's on relatively low wages. Secondly, there is a lot of uncertainty about what would happen to Chelsea's PSR if the contract were to be terminated - they were able to significantly lower the impact of this signing by amortising over the 8 years of his contract. Could they still rely on that if the contract is no longer valid, or do they have to book it, say, as a one-time charge when they terminate? This doesn't look, on the face of it, to be the sort of thing Chelsea would want to do. They've had a history of selling their duds to SA and other related parties, it would seem a likelier, much more financially favourable and less risky route if they wanted rid.
MUDryk , the one thing ASSeNIL got right, not buying him!. Hopefully we can tear up his multi-millions contract, it's not like various managers haven't given him chances 😢.
So a footballer failed a test and Simon finds a way to pull Benn’s name into the conversation.
high profile drug cheat, don’t think it’s crazy to mention him, Armstrong got mentioned when a UFC fighter popped for the same thing so not sure what your point is?!
@ think a little harder, you can work out what my point is.
Simon has an agenda and he will not let go of it.
@@JCRule69Conor should come out and explain how the PEDS got in his system then.
@JCRule69 known drug cheat gets mentioned in a conversation about a potential drug cheat. Yeah there's definitely an agenda. Maybe Henn should come out and prove his two failed drug tests were false
@@JCRule69 agenda for cheats and also fact the WADA isn't fit for purpose
Who said our season wasn't going to go without a bit of Drama.?
We don't need any distractions right now in the club! But feel bad for him.
Boehly is a smart man
Chelsea are trying to get rid of the boy since he isn’t delivering. Maybe an Add-On is almost due
Those add-ons are for winning the balon d'or, the league, the champions league etc
I'd be asking for a refund.
CONSPIRACY THEORY: Chelsea FC spiked Mudryk to test positive and thus can cancel his ridiculously long contract without fear of a payout because they realised he isn't any good and want rid of him....... Thoughts?
They've paid and booked the transfer fee, so they're not getting out of that. He's reportedly on 100k pw, which isn't that much by PL standards. He's not been bad enough that they couldn't sell him at a loss, especially given they've got some related parties who've picked up their other duds previously. Doesn't seem likely they'd do this when they can likely sell him for 20-30m, his wages as a liability isn't higher than that, so they could even afford to subsidise them partially to faciliate a move. There's also the issue of PSR. Chelsea amortised his transfer fee over the 8 years of his contract. What happens if it's terminated, do they have to book the remainder in the fiscal year they terminate? Could be a problem, or at least risk/uncertainty, and one they couldn't resolve ahead of time - they'd have to ask the PL how they would treat such an event for PSR purposes (as there isn't a precedent), and they'd have to ask before spiking him, which would come out and look terribly suspicious. I just don't see it
Could it be Chelsea, get him out an 8 year deal?
He had a Red Bull
Ban him for life and ban Chelsea for life too while you’re at it 😂
Handwork of Arsenal fans😂
It makes sense why he was mysteriously dropped for all of since the start of the month
What about 130 charges
Knowingly???
Destroying my boy over magnesium tablets 😅😮
Why do these players always lie 😂😂😂 just be open from the start instead of having to apologise later when it’s undeniable.
Mudryk for balandor 2026❤
AFC dodged a bullet there
He should get a refund and compensation from his dealer 😂
thomas partey the actual criminal still walking free among us. it’s a scary thought
If you believe this strongly, please go to the papers, accuse him of the crime then make sure you leave your full name address and contact number in case his lawyers need to reach you for you to convince them to either drop him as a client or have your day in court. You may potentially wind up as the defendant but you need to rise up!
Be careful of libel!
hardly a performance enhancer... look at him...
Quick to ban Pogba. But because he's Ukrainian and a clear complexion. We'll just fine him and accept his apologies.
Relax , it's not concluded. Typical to throw the race card 🙄
@jahmalwilliam6049 Facts
We can’t say anything till we get numbers of the test. Was he over by .01 or was it a huge number. This “drug” can be found in Eastern Europe with milk, water, and chicken.
Christmas comes early for Jim. Just the drama he needs to get his rocks off
Time to test the rest of the Chelsea squad then isn't it lads.
Pogba’s American supplement argument was total BS. The labels are VERY CLEAR on what’s inside them. I bet they ordered a bottle of the supplement then laughed when it came in the mail.
Then he tried to play football, and everyone else laughed.
Meldonium doesn’t get in your system by accident.
"led to bans"
I thought UK is standing with Ukraine 😂😂😂😂
I’m surprises starmer hasn’t give him 50 million to help him out
@@Wayne-R-he's not the right hue or religion to receive a handout from two tier
they have, he has had preferential treatment and been favoured so far, let's see what levers can be used.
He won't be missed. A truly awful signing by Chelsea. Arsenal dodged a bullet by failing to land him.
Whatever he's taking isn't working 😂
What about the C sample?
I think Mudryk got so frustrated and depressed and looked for the easiest way out.
He needs advice from Connor "Eggs" Benn who can show him how to avoid strict liability and make a complete joke drug testing 😂😂😂
Now we are fu.... without mudryk lol.
Why are the clubs not supplying the supplements? If Ur paying someone millions to be at the peak of his fitness why are they trusting him to use his own bought supplements.
Must have been a sedative!.
here's to free salary for the next few years!
Too much money in football for there NOT to be people doping!
Imagine how bad he would of been if he wasn't doping lol
Well it didn't make him any better did it?
Chelsea ruined this lads confidence
Chelsea stronger without the sub for the Z team reserves
They're all on something
Simon can not help himself, has to mention Benn. What happens if the supplement he took had one batch which was contaminated with there usual batches ok to use, that would be the companies issue and nothing he could do
At least Simon has the bottle to call Henn out for what he is. He's one of the only pundits not treading on eggshells over the situation.
I knew there was something in the tea at Chelsea
Chelsea are a one man team. Providing no ill befalls Cole Palmer, they'll be quite alright
Chelsea have had, thus far, TEN different goalscorers. Hardly a one man team.
Chelsea literally score more goals then anyone else this season lol