TOTALLY TRUE MAN!! There's a F*tty in the community making videos defending every wrong decision that jagex makes and it's so hypocrite. Respect for the true players and content creators as Protoxx
Surveys raising membership prices to offset removing treasure hunter Raises membership prices Has 4 FOMO items scattered across a single Christmas-themed Treasure Hunter promo
Crazy to think it was a couple months ago we were talking about removing MTX forever and now MTX go BRRRRRRRR. If we wanted to cope we could see this as Jagex last hurrah of cashing out on the player base before they DO remove MTX and just increase membership again.
That was never ever said. Why would a company remove MTX and crater there profits. They've been "cashing out" according to players for many many years lol.
Instead of telling you to grow up and not care about MTX, I'll be that one comment to say that we appreciate the concern you have for the community. Happy holidays my guy
Respect for actually speaking up on this. Apathy to MTX is what is allowing it to happen, the few of us that are vocal get called toxic, and to Jagex, someone apathetic to MTX is the same as someone actively enjoying it and wanting it in the game. It's not just the big things we need to speak up on, it's small things like this, they're conscious decisions made by jagex to benefit them and screw over the player, that's just a fact, why do people want to bend over and allow it?
No, what’s allowing it to happen is people engaging with TH. Stop using it. “But it’s just two daily keys. What’s the harm?” This shit. Cause from the very beginning jagex’s argument is “people engage with the content so they must like it.” Don’t engage with TH at all, whatsoever.
The problem is the amount of ppl who don't want it is small in comparison to the amount of people who engage with this fuckery. It's unfortunate but true.
I'm always unsure if it's the people engaging with TH at all because of the keys you can get and use without spending irl $ (like daily keys and using oddments), or if it's the people that will spend the irl $ cause they really want to try to get a specific prize or just more xp from lamps
@@Dcaulder Uhh im pretty sure it still has to correlate to increase in revenue...if everyone engaged in TH and no one purchased it with cash...why would Jagex push it? For obvious reasons, some people are buying with irl cash like dogcoin, if TH wasnt profitable Jagex wouldnt push it. Clearly the market speaks for itself, and people who call it "toxic" may be closeted TH supporters.
I honestly don't understand the loot beam in that big present. Maybe it's on me for hyping it up but it was a real let down. I think this could have been handled better by putting the loot beam in the advent calendar and the black scythe in the big present.
@ Oh I agree. I just think it was a mistake putting it as a reward from the BIG Christmas present. People (myself included) were going to hype it up, as it's a Christmas Day present. Like when they shot themselves in the foot hyping the Hero pass up.
3:44 No player should get free standard/premium membership no matter what rank they are. Jagex is ridiculous. They know that they can make a load of money from seasonal events like Christmas by adding a few new rare items into the treasure hunter that's related to the event like the ASH. It's a great way to steal their customer's money from the treasure hunter and investing players to buy bonds for 12 daily keys and so on. Because that's when most players tend to play the treasure hunter during seasonal events.
I think this is why they never allow in-game methods for skilling to be too good. It would ruin their profit margins for TH. Perfect example was the recent fletch nerf....and now just selling valuable in game items again....
Last years big present was such an amazing one, and this year you get a lootbeam that may or may not show up depending on your settings. My disappointment comes from the lame gift, not from that it wasn't the aurora thing people were speculating about.
I've played RuneScape on and off for years and I always, always come back for December to play through the holidays. I did not come back this year due to how bad this has gotten
I've played 24 years. I can honestly say, this games hit an all-time low. I can barely bring myself to even log on anymore. I only play a little on holidays to snag what little crumbs I can. Jagex severly lacks any kind of creativity. All we get is reskinned cosmetics. I miss the days when the Gowers were running the show. At least they weren't money motivated. Anyways, thanks for the vid! Hope you and the fam had a Merry Christmas! Have a happy and safe New Years!
brighter shores my friend, a game where the gowers are now running the show. Its pretty bareboned in early access but its still fun and a great foundation is there.
@@appie7071 And how many years later did that happen? It didn't start out that way. And even so, they were NO WHERE near as preadatory as the owners are now.
As much as I dislike mtx, I'm honestly done with grinding events from rs3 simply for the obscene rarity of the uber rare drops. In my over 5000 hours of playing I have never received a dye, mask, hat, or token similar to assassins walk in any event. I turned in hundreds of thousands of paper this year as well with no luck while my friend received two pink santa hats. I know it will piss off the ultra rare elitists, but these events need to be full rng with a real bad luck mitigator or I am just done as I'm sure many others are. I know that the other half of the community would say the opposite though.
Unfortunately, if they do that, we're just going to have another gold party hat on our hands. That thing's price crashed on release because everyone could get it and it's not seen as valuable anymore. I get it, seeing a 1/10,000 drop chance for a pink santa hat is absurd. You have a better chance of getting struck by lightning or injured by a toilet. I've never gotten a valuable rare either and I know I probably never will. That's how statistics works. I played the holiday event for the atmosphere and to get rewards from the store because that was all stuff I knew I could get. (Granted, the rewards shop this time around was ass but that's beside the point)
Love the way your being so honest with the way this game is going. I for one am just going on to skill, try out some of the new content, work through quests "which I actually despise doing", and try out bossing which I've never done in the 16 years I've started playing this game. Hope you had a wonderful Christmas with your family and friends.
I really dislike how Runescape's community is so bitter towards everyone who talks about the MTX and its negative presence. People saying "why are you complaining? Jagex won't change. MTX don't affect you, why do you care?" - you people are the exact reason why Jagex keeps shoving these down our throats. Disregarding the issue because you're "not affected" does NOT help the issue in the first place!
Obviously the giant present wouldn't contain anything too exciting. Last year is was a single-slot cosmetic override, you really think they'd put another super-rare multi-billion gp party hat in something everyone would get? Unless the aurora party hat was a cosmetic, it wouldn't be in the box.
I'd rather have them make a cheaper membership version(like 45€/$ a year), without keys, without premier artefact, without a vault monthly gift, without all the shnik shnak, just plain old membership for less then a tripple a game a year. Crazy that this will never be a thing, rs3 could be so popular without all the corporate greed, but to each their own I guess.
I wonder if there are any streamers who live stream Treasure Hunter. People Live stream scratch cards all the time showing how awful the odds are; I wonder if someone would be bold enough to consistently live stream TH to prove (or disprove) the written odds...
I understand at this specific moment its holiday break so most of the staff is off, but if they don't address the MTX survey and going forward when they return, the playerbase needs to hold their feet to the fire. This is the same shit they did at the start of last year where they didn't have a roadmap for the first quarter of the year.
Dang bro its almost next year again. It feels like that controversy happened 4 months ago. Here it is they still have no roadmap for next year again facts.
MTX, cosmetics, and UI complexity is a big reason why OSRS is 2x+ more popular than RS3. OSRS survives without it all. Bonds are only thing that's somewhat fine
Came back because of the new total level cap (near 3060 currently), got the new hatchet and everything.. I've just lost the enjoyment, I think. May sound pretentious but skilling in RS3 feels less rewarding when players can just use MTX to boost their experience immediately. It is their right to transact, though. So I've switched over to OSRS and created a skiller for a fairer playing ground.
This is what happens when they decide to only have closed door discussions and surveys with MTX whales, rather than the bulk of the player base. I cancelled my sub when they increased the prices, because the game gets too expensive for me to afford, but there isn't even a trade off until that sub ends in July, because from the increase in membership, with it has come more MTX than ever before, not less. Jagex still proving they only do surveys for image, they do not give two shits about their player base, they still don't listen to them, it's all about portraying an image that they care while hiding the fact that if you don't have a gambling addiction that they can predate upon, they aren't interested in you.
Haven't logged in in years, but was recommended this video. Missed your voice and Tea recommendation haha. Im never coming back but genuinely hope the best for all you stalwart supporters. ❤
The giant present was a joke. The event is a joke. Moderators are overreaching for simple infractions. The game is going to the shitter. There's nothing they're celebrating but numbers and quarterly gains that's all they care about and its evident.
*DOESN'T THIS VIOLATE JAGEX'S SETTLEMENT TERMS WITH THE U.K. GOVERNMENT AFTER THEY SMACKED JAGEX DOWN A COUPLE YEARS AGO FOR ILLEGAL GAMBLING?? I'M PRETTY SURE IT DOES.*
I am just as mad as you to be seeing the MTX pushed on us. I hate the holiday events because they are grindy and boring. I still love the bossing aspect of the game and will continue to play for that. I’ve switched to osrs for leagues and might not go back for rs3. But I will for sure try out bosses every now and then
i've been on 3 different accounts , multiple hours a day , every single day of the event so far . i've done every daily for the extra keys and even spent oddments on extra keys . i have double wrappers all wrappers bonuses etc. , and i still haven't even won a pink santa hat let alone a rare from treasure hunter . just candy canes , oddments , and lamps . i can't even imagine how upset i would be if i actually had something else to do on the Holidays but i sacrificed my time nonetheless . if Jagex thinks i'm going to spend cash on keys then they are mentally ill . rares should be rewarded for the grind , to players that put in their time and effort . rng is so wack it doesn't even make sense as a concept .
@MrInternetMan i disagree . i think most players aren't willing to or able to grind if it was something like you have to have 3 entries every day for the whole entire event for a guaranteed santa hat then that plus maxed spirit and everything in spirit shop bought , xmas quests done all activities grinded to a certain xp etc should guarantee a rare or at least unlock a buyable santa present in the spirit shop or something . mtx isn't what makes rares rares . look at the old rares that didn't come from treasure hunter that are still very rare items . i think your logic is flawed here .
at this point they may as well bring back the sand casino haha jks i have 10+ 120s and finally maxed just b4 christmas using double keys and present lamps to do 70 - 99 necro and invention now im maxed i have no real motivation to grind when u could just buy some keys haha onto the 200m agility grind on osrs 47m atm, happy holidays proooo
I'm outraged how Jagex turned RuneScape into a full pve "thesims"... For a long time I criticized Albion for copying Rune, but seeing today they were right, RuneScape is in a deplorable state to see.... it could be worse indeed, but still, it's sad especially for a PvP player... but anyway
i was disappointed HIGHLY that there was no ice floor maze like something like halloween or what was it 2010 or 11.. maybe 09? one of those had a floor maze! and it was awesome
jagex is greedy. other news: water is wet. they’ve already increased the price of monthly osrs membership to $15 a month. you can have one osrs character or unlimited wow characters for the same price. i love runescape and osrs but yes jagex is extremely greedy
I've been playing osrs and rs3 for a few years now. I'm currently doing a GIM account with a couple friends. Cause I like playing with my friends. But there is a very high chance that I'm not returning next year after this membership runs out. There are so many games coming out that I know won't shove a ton of microtransaction and ads in my face. That $100 would be spent on 3-4 other games. Instead of just the 1 that right now all I do is sign in just to do dailies and go back to playing poe2.
i would think that the comunity manager mod will try to push for a aurora party hat next year, and if it looks anything like the santa hat in colloring it will look amazing! (and yes i have seen the santa hat and i think it looks great)
jup, 600m wasten voor 4 bonds om een paar extra keys te krijgen is het 100% waard! X'D vooral wanneer je main account luck er voor zorgt dat het nooit te compenseren valt :3.
I have stopped playing RS3 entirely at this point. I used to play daily, then I was logging in for weeklies and keys, then it was just monthlies. Now it's been probably 6-8 months since I have logged in to the RS3 servers. The combination of dailies, log in stuff, MTX, and just lack of new content has ruined my interest in RS3. I barely even watch news for it anymore other than highlights. Going back to OSRS after being a RS3 player for so long has really ruined RS3 for me. It reminded me of what the game used to be before the budget and MTX really ate into the game. Plus, the RS3 team actively uses feedback against the players unlike the OSRS team. Although they do have their moments with trying to shoehorn certain updates into the game, like a lot of the "integrity" updates especially those based on PvP. Sure OSRS still has bonds, but bonds vs treasure hunter, buyable in-game content, and cosmetics is a lot more acceptable to me. I used to be the just don't buy it crowd, but IDK years of just having it shoved in my face made me realize how I dislike it. If you still enjoy RS3, good for you, but I feel like it is a truly dying game on life support kept alive by the whales or people who forget about their membership. And the saddest part is every year it's just a recolored cosmetic that a whale is going to buy because they have to own it. It's so low effort that I'm not even sure what they are going to do in like 3-4 years when they run out of colors to sell if the game is still alive lol.
Yea i logged in for like 3 days on rs3 after over half a year of not playing and saw mtx offers every day. Saw it even on my alt GiM, and haven't logged back in since.
Premier should be buffed. I've had it since it came out and it doesn't seem as worth as it was for a long, long time. The 2x keys was something I barely recognized. I love the hypotheticals in MTX related videos "What if they do this or that exaggerated thing" but it never happens.
Ive played RuneScape for over 20 years, many times off and on. The nostalgia always brings me back. Its a wonderful game. But it sad how OSRS has so many players as opposed to RS3, and yet RS3 is what keeps their money flow going (i could be wrong, but with the amount of mtx, im sur ethe player to revenue ratio is much better on RS3). We are just a joke to them.
For anyone who would say "who cares" obviously doesn't value the game as a whole. I'm not sure how long you (Protoxx) has played or anyone else In this comment section but I've played since April 2001. I remember when RuneScape was never Influenced by how much money you had In real life. Andrew and the others even stated that they never wanted someone who was rich In real life to have an advantage over someone who was poor. I say all of that to say this... That's exactly what RuneScape has turned Into It... The sad fact Is that a very small amount of people (whales) Is what keeps TH alive. They can afford to drop thousands on keys or bonds but the pathetic part Is how Jagex preys on players. They always tend to screw up an event by putting a "rare" Item like the Aurora Santa Hat In this case Into th and the average player will buy keys and never win anything other than the normal loot. Personally I've never bought keys and never will. My account Isn't an Iron Man or HCIM but I still play like It Is lol. Sorry for the long rant. I hope you had a great Christmas Protoxx. I'm finally playing again and just got my first Telos kill at 0% and then 100% enrage last night while watching your Telos guide.
Lost interest when bond prices rose above my wanted price on OSRS. It was easy to maintain 20 bonds a year on OSRS playing here and there (never actually paying a penny), but I've locked myself off of playing ever again intentionally, by giving away I had the only bond ready along with my bank of 300m~ on OSRS.
Don't worry, when you unsub it directs you to the forums as i found out when i cancelled my prem sub. I won't be renewing, I love the game and have played iron for years at this point but they are making a concerted effort to run what little of the playerbase remains away from the game.
@@zeldapro18 aurora and soul dye are greate examples, instead of putting them behind a paywall they could have been rewards from clues during their respective holidays. Every single cosmetic item from TH during events used to be free back in the day. You would do one small quest and get the rewards, now you have to spend money to get them.
@@uberhaxornovanongalaktiksk9798 don't have to spend money. buy bonds with gold and use bonds on keys. You can still grind out the items it is just a much longer grind. don't act like there is no way to get these items without paying at all.
MTX has completely ruined RuneScape 3. The core experience of earning achievements like 99s or 120s through effort and dedication has been destroyed by Treasure Hunter and other MTX systems. Players are bankstanding, using proteans, and essentially skipping the actual gameplay to level up. It’s made the game feel hollow and lifeless compared to what it used to be. These surveys they send out asking how we feel about MTX are pointless. Let’s be real-they’re never going to remove it. They’ll just spin the results to claim that 'a lot of players love MTX,' but they never show actual numbers to back it up. It’s clear the majority of the community despises it. They’re not listening to players-they care more about squeezing out money than delivering a meaningful game experience. For those who defend MTX by saying, 'You can just play Ironman mode,' that doesn’t solve the problem. Ironman is great for avoiding MTX, but it doesn’t justify its existence. MTX has stripped RS3 of its heart, and it’s sad to see such a beloved game go downhill. When you compare RS3 to OSRS, it’s like night and day. OSRS feels community-driven and focused on the players, while RS3 feels like it’s run by people out of touch with the game's roots. It’s painful to watch the game we once loved turn into this. RS3 needs to reconnect with its player base, but as long as MTX is their main focus, that won’t happen.
Hey! I’m a huge fan always watch your vids but I totally agree with you I have prem mem on my main and I feel like they keep taking away benefits every year and just increasing the price. I have totally stepped away from my maxed comp main and gone to Ironman because I feel like all the years I grinded for my stats are just not meaningful at all anymore because people just buy it now. MTX has seriously hurt this games numbers and is a huge factor people stay on osrs
I've long since come to hate treasure hunter. the popups when logging into my normal character are obnoxious, and the flood of exp items from it fundamentally bypass a game you're already paying a lot to access.
Explain how youre paying to access a f2p game? I have not paid for membership in many years (until recently) and have enjoyed the gsme because i understand how the game is supposed to be played. No is making anyone buy keys. If you do then you do. People have really lost their mind here... gaming really does rot peoples mind.
@@dreamboundrsps1111 You do realize someone paid for those bonds? there is nothing free to play about that. the membership value is even more expensive under those circumstances. Just because you can devote endless gp to funding your membership via bonds does not make it free. Someone paid for it. The membership credit didn't spawn magically from nothing. Yes, there is a free to play version of the game available and it has always been a trial. access to members features has ALWAYS required payment. Frankly, the free keys from just logging in and questing already provide that flood of experience items. It's been sufficient that it has largely replaced normal skilling for a large number of players. problematically they also bait the casino. The whole scheme is designed to get people to spend money. You and I can resist, but there are a lot of documented cased of people spending way more than they can afford on that sort of model. It is fundamentally predatory.
They added cute pajamas overrides. It didnt appear as an item in the inventory, check your customizations for them maybe? Happy Holidays :) (At the very least, a lot of the non predatory mtx related stuff they added to the game with the event was pretty dang cool looking)
Been playing on / off since 04. Runescape was the first game i ever really played i started at a very young age, it finally hit me last month and i finally quit and got rid of my premier membership, it expires in january and ive tried to see if i have any interest and i simply dont
I didnt get the damn cap and that party hat and i have the teir 95 weapons from the devourer, selling the pink party hat, the bag from the gate and cyan tokens and its still in the fucking GE.
your content is turning depressing, which in turn makes me depressed every time a new post shows up, so i will unsub because all you bring is negativity about the game. Perhaps you need to look for a different game to make content about and move on yourself as well.
Still wondering when additional bank spaces and more will be free for members as Jagex has CONSTANLY been adding in more items and new content which requires older items into the game. Though, it is a good way to gate keep myself from playing the game as I am hit with a brick as soon as I open my bank reminding me to not play. I want to quit this game already, I'm tired of getting a turd on a plate and eating it out of hopes of getting something other than turd.
And this is why you're not a P-Mod yet, and we love you for it :) , you're the only one that speaks out on the BS of Jagex
They'd prob make him sign a contract so he can't make these type of contents. Rsguy being a prime example eww
Ya feels like once you signed u’re being neutered 😂
The whole idea of Pmods is kinda shit to begin with anyways
I lost tons of respect for jagex over the past few years especially for them hiring new staff members who harass people its messed up
TOTALLY TRUE MAN!! There's a F*tty in the community making videos defending every wrong decision that jagex makes and it's so hypocrite. Respect for the true players and content creators as Protoxx
Surveys raising membership prices to offset removing treasure hunter
Raises membership prices
Has 4 FOMO items scattered across a single Christmas-themed Treasure Hunter promo
I want you to know this video was pre rolled with a Tea ad. that is all.
Target audience 😂
Crazy to think it was a couple months ago we were talking about removing MTX forever and now MTX go BRRRRRRRR. If we wanted to cope we could see this as Jagex last hurrah of cashing out on the player base before they DO remove MTX and just increase membership again.
That was never ever said. Why would a company remove MTX and crater there profits. They've been "cashing out" according to players for many many years lol.
@@zeldapro18are you going to every comment defending mtx?? Lmao what a shill get a life
They literally talked about MTX removal from their last couple of surveys...@@zeldapro18
It's Christmas they won't pass up the opp to cash in on the whales during this time of year especially.
@@zeldapro18 they did a survey about it
Instead of telling you to grow up and not care about MTX, I'll be that one comment to say that we appreciate the concern you have for the community. Happy holidays my guy
Respect for actually speaking up on this. Apathy to MTX is what is allowing it to happen, the few of us that are vocal get called toxic, and to Jagex, someone apathetic to MTX is the same as someone actively enjoying it and wanting it in the game. It's not just the big things we need to speak up on, it's small things like this, they're conscious decisions made by jagex to benefit them and screw over the player, that's just a fact, why do people want to bend over and allow it?
No, what’s allowing it to happen is people engaging with TH. Stop using it. “But it’s just two daily keys. What’s the harm?” This shit. Cause from the very beginning jagex’s argument is “people engage with the content so they must like it.” Don’t engage with TH at all, whatsoever.
The problem is the amount of ppl who don't want it is small in comparison to the amount of people who engage with this fuckery. It's unfortunate but true.
I'm always unsure if it's the people engaging with TH at all because of the keys you can get and use without spending irl $ (like daily keys and using oddments), or if it's the people that will spend the irl $ cause they really want to try to get a specific prize or just more xp from lamps
@@Dcaulder Uhh im pretty sure it still has to correlate to increase in revenue...if everyone engaged in TH and no one purchased it with cash...why would Jagex push it? For obvious reasons, some people are buying with irl cash like dogcoin, if TH wasnt profitable Jagex wouldnt push it. Clearly the market speaks for itself, and people who call it "toxic" may be closeted TH supporters.
They did this last year with the keys toward the end of the event to get more money.
MTX worse as ever and membership still went up in price. What the fuck was the survey for?!
So they can ignore your decision with the illusion you had a choice to begin with
I honestly don't understand the loot beam in that big present. Maybe it's on me for hyping it up but it was a real let down.
I think this could have been handled better by putting the loot beam in the advent calendar and the black scythe in the big present.
The aurora skybox on 25th too … like, oh thanks… i guess 🙄
haha I got the lootbeam too, not really happy about.
I think the loot beam is pretty cute tbh
@ Oh I agree. I just think it was a mistake putting it as a reward from the BIG Christmas present. People (myself included) were going to hype it up, as it's a Christmas Day present.
Like when they shot themselves in the foot hyping the Hero pass up.
that was better than last years giant present gift we got
3:44 No player should get free standard/premium membership no matter what rank they are.
Jagex is ridiculous. They know that they can make a load of money from seasonal events like Christmas by adding a few new rare items into the treasure hunter that's related to the event like the ASH. It's a great way to steal their customer's money from the treasure hunter and investing players to buy bonds for 12 daily keys and so on. Because that's when most players tend to play the treasure hunter during seasonal events.
Protoxx: 3:53
Jagex: quick! Write that down!
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I think this is why they never allow in-game methods for skilling to be too good. It would ruin their profit margins for TH. Perfect example was the recent fletch nerf....and now just selling valuable in game items again....
Last years big present was such an amazing one, and this year you get a lootbeam that may or may not show up depending on your settings. My disappointment comes from the lame gift, not from that it wasn't the aurora thing people were speculating about.
I've played RuneScape on and off for years and I always, always come back for December to play through the holidays. I did not come back this year due to how bad this has gotten
I've played 24 years. I can honestly say, this games hit an all-time low. I can barely bring myself to even log on anymore. I only play a little on holidays to snag what little crumbs I can. Jagex severly lacks any kind of creativity. All we get is reskinned cosmetics. I miss the days when the Gowers were running the show. At least they weren't money motivated. Anyways, thanks for the vid! Hope you and the fam had a Merry Christmas! Have a happy and safe New Years!
brighter shores my friend, a game where the gowers are now running the show. Its pretty bareboned in early access but its still fun and a great foundation is there.
They were money motivated or else they would not have sold jagex
@@appie7071 And how many years later did that happen? It didn't start out that way. And even so, they were NO WHERE near as preadatory as the owners are now.
@@BowdenDynasty Thanks for the reminder! I've been meaning to try that game out! No better time then now!
As much as I dislike mtx, I'm honestly done with grinding events from rs3 simply for the obscene rarity of the uber rare drops. In my over 5000 hours of playing I have never received a dye, mask, hat, or token similar to assassins walk in any event. I turned in hundreds of thousands of paper this year as well with no luck while my friend received two pink santa hats. I know it will piss off the ultra rare elitists, but these events need to be full rng with a real bad luck mitigator or I am just done as I'm sure many others are. I know that the other half of the community would say the opposite though.
Unfortunately, if they do that, we're just going to have another gold party hat on our hands. That thing's price crashed on release because everyone could get it and it's not seen as valuable anymore.
I get it, seeing a 1/10,000 drop chance for a pink santa hat is absurd. You have a better chance of getting struck by lightning or injured by a toilet. I've never gotten a valuable rare either and I know I probably never will. That's how statistics works. I played the holiday event for the atmosphere and to get rewards from the store because that was all stuff I knew I could get.
(Granted, the rewards shop this time around was ass but that's beside the point)
“It’s because of inflation everyone” inflation started 3 years ago and it just now is affecting them???
Love the way your being so honest with the way this game is going. I for one am just going on to skill, try out some of the new content, work through quests "which I actually despise doing", and try out bossing which I've never done in the 16 years I've started playing this game. Hope you had a wonderful Christmas with your family and friends.
I really dislike how Runescape's community is so bitter towards everyone who talks about the MTX and its negative presence. People saying "why are you complaining? Jagex won't change. MTX don't affect you, why do you care?" - you people are the exact reason why Jagex keeps shoving these down our throats. Disregarding the issue because you're "not affected" does NOT help the issue in the first place!
people put their heads in the sands, they do that in real life, they do that in game, especially these last few years.
Rip party hat.
They misspoke, sure. But now they've seen how hype people are for the Aurora partyhat. Which means they can MTX it into oblivion next year.
Gosh I hope not hahaha
Obviously the giant present wouldn't contain anything too exciting. Last year is was a single-slot cosmetic override, you really think they'd put another super-rare multi-billion gp party hat in something everyone would get? Unless the aurora party hat was a cosmetic, it wouldn't be in the box.
I'd rather have them make a cheaper membership version(like 45€/$ a year), without keys, without premier artefact, without a vault monthly gift, without all the shnik shnak, just plain old membership for less then a tripple a game a year. Crazy that this will never be a thing, rs3 could be so popular without all the corporate greed, but to each their own I guess.
Hope you had a nice christmas!
😊 definitely
"It's not gambling" - JaGeX xD they don't force us to buy MTX, wdym???? xD
With all the new skill updates, will we be getting new/updated skilling guides?
I wonder if there are any streamers who live stream Treasure Hunter. People Live stream scratch cards all the time showing how awful the odds are; I wonder if someone would be bold enough to consistently live stream TH to prove (or disprove) the written odds...
dw tho, The aurora phat will come in game
We appreciate your candor! Happy Holidays! 🎄🎁
I understand theres some members of Jagex who want change in the company but wow these MTX has destroyed everything.
I understand at this specific moment its holiday break so most of the staff is off, but if they don't address the MTX survey and going forward when they return, the playerbase needs to hold their feet to the fire. This is the same shit they did at the start of last year where they didn't have a roadmap for the first quarter of the year.
Dang bro its almost next year again. It feels like that controversy happened 4 months ago. Here it is they still have no roadmap for next year again facts.
They’ve been doing this for years, the dipshit whales keep throwing money at them, cycle repeats.
Just FYI. Buy X get Y for "free" is illegal as false advertisement in a couple of european countries. "Free" being interpreted as with no cost.
MTX, cosmetics, and UI complexity is a big reason why OSRS is 2x+ more popular than RS3. OSRS survives without it all. Bonds are only thing that's somewhat fine
I feel like double daily keys wouldn't have even mattered that much, unless Jagex is reallllllllly struggling with rs3...
I never get these banner ads upon log in. Not too sure why.
Came back because of the new total level cap (near 3060 currently), got the new hatchet and everything.. I've just lost the enjoyment, I think. May sound pretentious but skilling in RS3 feels less rewarding when players can just use MTX to boost their experience immediately. It is their right to transact, though. So I've switched over to OSRS and created a skiller for a fairer playing ground.
Appreciate you speaking up in these topics, even though jagex is not going to listen
This is what happens when they decide to only have closed door discussions and surveys with MTX whales, rather than the bulk of the player base. I cancelled my sub when they increased the prices, because the game gets too expensive for me to afford, but there isn't even a trade off until that sub ends in July, because from the increase in membership, with it has come more MTX than ever before, not less. Jagex still proving they only do surveys for image, they do not give two shits about their player base, they still don't listen to them, it's all about portraying an image that they care while hiding the fact that if you don't have a gambling addiction that they can predate upon, they aren't interested in you.
I wish Aurora stuff being Treasure Hunter locked was the worst part of my holidays, but I got the Flu :(
Haven't logged in in years, but was recommended this video. Missed your voice and Tea recommendation haha. Im never coming back but genuinely hope the best for all you stalwart supporters. ❤
@@oots4790 Thanks for passing by :)
Take care
@ProtoxxGaming Absolutely man. Keep fighting the good fight against the corpo greed.
The giant present was a joke. The event is a joke. Moderators are overreaching for simple infractions. The game is going to the shitter. There's nothing they're celebrating but numbers and quarterly gains that's all they care about and its evident.
1350 keys and 300k+ wrapping paper and still haven’t seen a pink Santa hat, aurora hat. My god…
juste got one after 80k wrapping paper
@ lucky you lol
They will keep getting away with it, until bad consequences happen
Which is likely never
*DOESN'T THIS VIOLATE JAGEX'S SETTLEMENT TERMS WITH THE U.K. GOVERNMENT AFTER THEY SMACKED JAGEX DOWN A COUPLE YEARS AGO FOR ILLEGAL GAMBLING?? I'M PRETTY SURE IT DOES.*
Vrolijk Kerstfeest Protoxx! 🎅🎄
How was your holiday?
I'm still in the middle of my xmas holiday :)
Vrolijk kerstfeest!
runescape isn't the game we grew up with, it's the dead shell off it with a puppeteer jangling the corpse around for coins via mtx.
When my mems runs out, I won't be buying more unless it goes back to a reasonable £50 a year. I simply refuse to pay more than that.
The only way this stops is if people stop buying keys. I know it won't happen but a guy can dream.
I am just as mad as you to be seeing the MTX pushed on us. I hate the holiday events because they are grindy and boring. I still love the bossing aspect of the game and will continue to play for that. I’ve switched to osrs for leagues and might not go back for rs3. But I will for sure try out bosses every now and then
i've been on 3 different accounts , multiple hours a day , every single day of the event so far . i've done every daily for the extra keys and even spent oddments on extra keys . i have double wrappers all wrappers bonuses etc. , and i still haven't even won a pink santa hat let alone a rare from treasure hunter . just candy canes , oddments , and lamps . i can't even imagine how upset i would be if i actually had something else to do on the Holidays but i sacrificed my time nonetheless . if Jagex thinks i'm going to spend cash on keys then they are mentally ill . rares should be rewarded for the grind , to players that put in their time and effort . rng is so wack it doesn't even make sense as a concept .
They wouldn't be rare if you could just earn them through hard work.
@MrInternetMan i disagree . i think most players aren't willing to or able to grind if it was something like you have to have 3 entries every day for the whole entire event for a guaranteed santa hat then that plus maxed spirit and everything in spirit shop bought , xmas quests done all activities grinded to a certain xp etc should guarantee a rare or at least unlock a buyable santa present in the spirit shop or something . mtx isn't what makes rares rares . look at the old rares that didn't come from treasure hunter that are still very rare items . i think your logic is flawed here .
this is why rs3 numbers are so bad vs osrs ... mtx is ruining this game milking it at this point
I memed a 120 agility with daily keys, i stopped playing but if i remember correctly it is the account named : DaDavinci, you can check the hiscores
Am I celebrating right protoxx? I made a bunch of elder frames and haven't brought MTX
at this point they may as well bring back the sand casino haha jks i have 10+ 120s and finally maxed just b4 christmas using double keys and present lamps to do 70 - 99 necro and invention now im maxed i have no real motivation to grind when u could just buy some keys haha onto the 200m agility grind on osrs 47m atm, happy holidays proooo
If you have to click mtx windows (even to close them) to play the game, mtx affects you. Mtx affects everyone.
Didn't they just make a survey to change mtx and increase the membership instead? (Wich they did already)
Yes...yes that happened this year too
I have been ANTICIPATING this video.
3:54 Don't you dare suggest removing premier tokens!!!
Honestly if they do, I actually have no reasons to get premier.
Found the cosmetic collector 👀
RS3 dev team REALLY workin hard on being entirely blind to the community probably intentionally
I'm outraged how Jagex turned RuneScape into a full pve "thesims"... For a long time I criticized Albion for copying Rune, but seeing today they were right, RuneScape is in a deplorable state to see.... it could be worse indeed, but still, it's sad especially for a PvP player... but anyway
There is a plan to increase the premier membership price to a high amount
i was disappointed HIGHLY that there was no ice floor maze like something like halloween or what was it 2010 or 11.. maybe 09? one of those had a floor maze! and it was awesome
jagex is greedy. other news: water is wet. they’ve already increased the price of monthly osrs membership to $15 a month. you can have one osrs character or unlimited wow characters for the same price. i love runescape and osrs but yes jagex is extremely greedy
I've been playing osrs and rs3 for a few years now. I'm currently doing a GIM account with a couple friends. Cause I like playing with my friends. But there is a very high chance that I'm not returning next year after this membership runs out. There are so many games coming out that I know won't shove a ton of microtransaction and ads in my face. That $100 would be spent on 3-4 other games. Instead of just the 1 that right now all I do is sign in just to do dailies and go back to playing poe2.
the MTX is what is killing this game for me, I find it more difficult to play every passing month
i would think that the comunity manager mod will try to push for a aurora party hat next year, and if it looks anything like the santa hat in colloring it will look amazing! (and yes i have seen the santa hat and i think it looks great)
Thank you for the work boss!
In League of legends they went from their most expensive skin costing 30$ to now 300$ the weird thing is you can buy physical statues for less
jup, 600m wasten voor 4 bonds om een paar extra keys te krijgen is het 100% waard! X'D
vooral wanneer je main account luck er voor zorgt dat het nooit te compenseren valt :3.
Main rng is altijd slecht :(
I have stopped playing RS3 entirely at this point. I used to play daily, then I was logging in for weeklies and keys, then it was just monthlies. Now it's been probably 6-8 months since I have logged in to the RS3 servers. The combination of dailies, log in stuff, MTX, and just lack of new content has ruined my interest in RS3. I barely even watch news for it anymore other than highlights. Going back to OSRS after being a RS3 player for so long has really ruined RS3 for me. It reminded me of what the game used to be before the budget and MTX really ate into the game. Plus, the RS3 team actively uses feedback against the players unlike the OSRS team. Although they do have their moments with trying to shoehorn certain updates into the game, like a lot of the "integrity" updates especially those based on PvP. Sure OSRS still has bonds, but bonds vs treasure hunter, buyable in-game content, and cosmetics is a lot more acceptable to me. I used to be the just don't buy it crowd, but IDK years of just having it shoved in my face made me realize how I dislike it.
If you still enjoy RS3, good for you, but I feel like it is a truly dying game on life support kept alive by the whales or people who forget about their membership. And the saddest part is every year it's just a recolored cosmetic that a whale is going to buy because they have to own it. It's so low effort that I'm not even sure what they are going to do in like 3-4 years when they run out of colors to sell if the game is still alive lol.
Yea i logged in for like 3 days on rs3 after over half a year of not playing and saw mtx offers every day. Saw it even on my alt GiM, and haven't logged back in since.
Premier should be buffed. I've had it since it came out and it doesn't seem as worth as it was for a long, long time. The 2x keys was something I barely recognized. I love the hypotheticals in MTX related videos "What if they do this or that exaggerated thing" but it never happens.
I love how jagex is against gambling (duel arena, flower game, dice, etc.), unless they are the ones profiting from it...th
Yea .. this event is MTX laced everywhere
Ive played RuneScape for over 20 years, many times off and on. The nostalgia always brings me back. Its a wonderful game. But it sad how OSRS has so many players as opposed to RS3, and yet RS3 is what keeps their money flow going (i could be wrong, but with the amount of mtx, im sur ethe player to revenue ratio is much better on RS3). We are just a joke to them.
For anyone who would say "who cares" obviously doesn't value the game as a whole. I'm not sure how long you (Protoxx) has played or anyone else In this comment section but I've played since April 2001. I remember when RuneScape was never Influenced by how much money you had In real life. Andrew and the others even stated that they never wanted someone who was rich In real life to have an advantage over someone who was poor. I say all of that to say this... That's exactly what RuneScape has turned Into It... The sad fact Is that a very small amount of people (whales) Is what keeps TH alive. They can afford to drop thousands on keys or bonds but the pathetic part Is how Jagex preys on players. They always tend to screw up an event by putting a "rare" Item like the Aurora Santa Hat In this case Into th and the average player will buy keys and never win anything other than the normal loot. Personally I've never bought keys and never will. My account Isn't an Iron Man or HCIM but I still play like It Is lol. Sorry for the long rant. I hope you had a great Christmas Protoxx. I'm finally playing again and just got my first Telos kill at 0% and then 100% enrage last night while watching your Telos guide.
This IS how you celebrate, if you're a paying member of the game RuneScape in all of its itterations.
Lost interest when bond prices rose above my wanted price on OSRS.
It was easy to maintain 20 bonds a year on OSRS playing here and there (never actually paying a penny),
but I've locked myself off of playing ever again intentionally, by giving away I had the only bond ready along with my bank of 300m~ on OSRS.
Don't worry, when you unsub it directs you to the forums as i found out when i cancelled my prem sub. I won't be renewing, I love the game and have played iron for years at this point but they are making a concerted effort to run what little of the playerbase remains away from the game.
I TOTALLY FORGOT ABOUT THE BIG BOX IN THE SANTAS PLACE
Which is why I wanted to remind you, enjoy :)
I know if its in treasure hunter ill never get a chance to own it. Sucks too, i really wanted that new santa hat
I wasn’t mad until they released necro skill outfit, now it all makes me angry
Mtx is ruining the game, more features that were originally obtained ingame through gameplay is being put behind a paywall. Mtx affects everyone.
What features are you talking about?
@@zeldapro18 aurora and soul dye are greate examples, instead of putting them behind a paywall they could have been rewards from clues during their respective holidays. Every single cosmetic item from TH during events used to be free back in the day. You would do one small quest and get the rewards, now you have to spend money to get them.
@@uberhaxornovanongalaktiksk9798 don't have to spend money. buy bonds with gold and use bonds on keys. You can still grind out the items it is just a much longer grind. don't act like there is no way to get these items without paying at all.
How does that affect everyone? It doesnt affect me at all and i play rs3
@@dreamboundrsps1111 Because the overall quality of the game is suffering from jagex focusing on mtx over actual game updates.
I love how you care about us! tyvm
MTX has completely ruined RuneScape 3. The core experience of earning achievements like 99s or 120s through effort and dedication has been destroyed by Treasure Hunter and other MTX systems. Players are bankstanding, using proteans, and essentially skipping the actual gameplay to level up. It’s made the game feel hollow and lifeless compared to what it used to be.
These surveys they send out asking how we feel about MTX are pointless. Let’s be real-they’re never going to remove it. They’ll just spin the results to claim that 'a lot of players love MTX,' but they never show actual numbers to back it up. It’s clear the majority of the community despises it. They’re not listening to players-they care more about squeezing out money than delivering a meaningful game experience.
For those who defend MTX by saying, 'You can just play Ironman mode,' that doesn’t solve the problem. Ironman is great for avoiding MTX, but it doesn’t justify its existence. MTX has stripped RS3 of its heart, and it’s sad to see such a beloved game go downhill.
When you compare RS3 to OSRS, it’s like night and day. OSRS feels community-driven and focused on the players, while RS3 feels like it’s run by people out of touch with the game's roots. It’s painful to watch the game we once loved turn into this. RS3 needs to reconnect with its player base, but as long as MTX is their main focus, that won’t happen.
Videos like this reminded me why I decided to play much less and go f2p.
Hey! I’m a huge fan always watch your vids but I totally agree with you I have prem mem on my main and I feel like they keep taking away benefits every year and just increasing the price. I have totally stepped away from my maxed comp main and gone to Ironman because I feel like all the years I grinded for my stats are just not meaningful at all anymore because people just buy it now. MTX has seriously hurt this games numbers and is a huge factor people stay on osrs
I still keep up with the news of this game through you but good lord am I glad I was able to free myself from its hold.
andddddd play ironman, problem solved. Great video though
I've long since come to hate treasure hunter. the popups when logging into my normal character are obnoxious, and the flood of exp items from it fundamentally bypass a game you're already paying a lot to access.
Explain how youre paying to access a f2p game? I have not paid for membership in many years (until recently) and have enjoyed the gsme because i understand how the game is supposed to be played. No is making anyone buy keys. If you do then you do. People have really lost their mind here... gaming really does rot peoples mind.
@@dreamboundrsps1111 You do realize someone paid for those bonds? there is nothing free to play about that. the membership value is even more expensive under those circumstances. Just because you can devote endless gp to funding your membership via bonds does not make it free. Someone paid for it. The membership credit didn't spawn magically from nothing.
Yes, there is a free to play version of the game available and it has always been a trial. access to members features has ALWAYS required payment.
Frankly, the free keys from just logging in and questing already provide that flood of experience items. It's been sufficient that it has largely replaced normal skilling for a large number of players. problematically they also bait the casino. The whole scheme is designed to get people to spend money. You and I can resist, but there are a lot of documented cased of people spending way more than they can afford on that sort of model. It is fundamentally predatory.
This year christmas felt unrewarding due them recycling last years rewards from nice list entries without adding any new ones
They added cute pajamas overrides. It didnt appear as an item in the inventory, check your customizations for them maybe? Happy Holidays :) (At the very least, a lot of the non predatory mtx related stuff they added to the game with the event was pretty dang cool looking)
Protoxx is the true rs king.
I'm just another player 🤝🏻😅
the rune metrics has rubbed me the wrong way for years as a paying member.
Been playing on / off since 04. Runescape was the first game i ever really played i started at a very young age, it finally hit me last month and i finally quit and got rid of my premier membership, it expires in january and ive tried to see if i have any interest and i simply dont
Gets free premiere membership, Slams jagex for it. JK, but a bit ironic.
Thats why you play Ironman, things actually have value and pride.
stupid loot beam ill never use for xmas thanks
I didnt get the damn cap and that party hat and i have the teir 95 weapons from the devourer, selling the pink party hat, the bag from the gate and cyan tokens and its still in the fucking GE.
your content is turning depressing, which in turn makes me depressed every time a new post shows up, so i will unsub because all you bring is negativity about the game.
Perhaps you need to look for a different game to make content about and move on yourself as well.
I praise the game when it does good and I critique/give feedback when it doesn't. I'm just another player. Its not that deep.
Starting to get where only the rich can play games and actually be able to enjoy them.
Still wondering when additional bank spaces and more will be free for members as Jagex has CONSTANLY been adding in more items and new content which requires older items into the game.
Though, it is a good way to gate keep myself from playing the game as I am hit with a brick as soon as I open my bank reminding me to not play.
I want to quit this game already, I'm tired of getting a turd on a plate and eating it out of hopes of getting something other than turd.