It's brilliant how he is awkward and a bit creepy all the way through the film until he decides to pick up his first victim, then he smiles at that guy with a completely normal charming smile.
I know, I just like how the director/writer brought it out. There was a French film about the "vampire of Dusseldorf" serial killer, which played it from the opposite side showing the killer as this really charming friendly guy until he would suddenly turn into the terrifying monster when the bloodlust struck. And it was done with just his expression, no makeup or trick lighting.
If this is based on a true story and that guy has a video camera then that must mean that they caught this on video oh man if they have uploaded this to TH-cam this would have got 2 billion views
Fun fact; in real life, Backderf did not laugh along with his friends. What he saw Dahmer do on the way to the mall creeped him out. It was a ten minute drive to the mall, Dahmer was sitting in the backseat of Backderf's car. Jeffrey downed an entire six back of beer, drinking one can after the other. Backderf saw this, and realized that something was really wrong with him.
@FollowerOfJesus 101 And it was from there that Backderf decided to cut ties with Jeff, out of fear that something bad might happen to him if he remained with him.
Having real friends would not have made any difference. Jeffrey even said in his interview with Stone Phillips that he didn’t believe anything could have prevented him from going down the path that he did.
Not really... Having true friends that care about you will surely help you and do everything to make you feel better. Our environment can have a huge impact on the mental health of someone.
OhtheSuffering Ik, but they were uptight and overtly sensitive... it's like, this wasn't even Glorifying nor getting anyone to forget about his crimes, it was shining a light on who he was before he became infamous.
@@isabelhaupenthal9417 don't be a uptight fidget spinner. He didn't carve your Son/Brother/Father/or Uncle, not saying that your opinion is crap, but really open your eyes. If he sent a chill down your spine or made you uneasy, then that's an Academy Award Winner.
@@av9638 yeah but if he wasn't a bully and just being humiliated and was actually getting help and his parents checking in on him more often then not he probably would of changed.
@@av9638 really what this all comes down to is lack of attention from his parents I mean look at his mom, jeff empathized for his mother, but she still neglected him, and his brother got more of her attention. The dad did his best, but the mom wasn't helping so it was hard for him to raise him, not only when he was a teenager, but as a minor at the age of 10. I wouldn't be shocked, his mother was just as much as mean bully as the people in this video. I mean look at it this way hes a teenager, so still a minor obviously...He obviously got signs of behavior that typically is found in mental illnesses or what not. I don't think what he did was right, but the amount of guidance that he got as a kid was very little, and as a teenager it's very confusing for people, so if people don't play a role and tell him it's wrong or help him, that could make him think it's okay and his gory behavior on his victims to be just as okay.
@@av9638 You need understand these people start out as a minor with substance abuse and or mental abuse by someone in their life, trauma, or physical abuse, neglect by whomever is supposed to be their mother or father. This can affect a person's life in a negative and or positive manner, unfortunately for jeff here he just didn't get that moral support, so yes empathizing for his victims is good, but jeff was just as much as a victim emotionally speaking, and that lead to physical harm to others. My point to conclude these people aren't just like this, now some things may just naturally run through the family, but very rarely it's that, these peoples childhood were treated negatively with passion by some of their..... "parents"
If by "other monsters" you mean his parents then I have to agree with you Hillary. From what I've read about Dahmer, his mother was mentally unstable and his father had very little if any connection with him. Eventually, his father and mother abandoned him completely. Both parents can be credited with his gradual descent into darkness.
I just thought to myself when Dahmer was pretending to have a seizure, and no one came up to him to make sure he was okay, if he was actually having a seizure, what would they do?
Maybe he was testing them to see if they were his real friends? Man, I hate jeffery’s actions, but I also hate people who take advantage of people with mental illnesses for their own entertainment smh.
he had already faked a seizure before in front of his friends and the people at the mall had already seen him acting out, so obviously they didn't think it was real.
People in the comments sympathizing over this monster. Yeah he was abused, and made fun of, and yeah it sucks, but at the end of the day what he did to those men was his choice.
Blade Runner Are you defending him? He still killed those people, and his mental illnesses don't justify that. I am not going to be like "Oh he just killed a bunch of people, but it's forgiveable because he had a rough childhood".
Westdog 01 I’m not justifying anything, I’m just saying I understand why people kill, and I understand why people commit suicide. No justification but it will always happen when life is that hopeless and miserable.
If there was a kid actually recording this i wonder if they still have it. Im so interested in watching the real clip.His whole story is just so fascinating and sad
i wanna know too, not with intention to make fun of him or anything but just to see if in the actual real video, were there any red flags to him becoming a serial killer. Its fascinating how people don’t see the immediate signs to how the person is or will become
@@melanie.vallejo they did see but they didnt care enough to do anything. Everyone turned their backs on him. Especially that doctor that checked Jeffrey and realized hes gay, he left Jeffrey and make him feel so bad for it.
@@Xoxo-se3pt to be fair, that would be an extremely uncomfortable position to be in, especially with a minor and this was in the 70s. What could he have said... I'm not interested but it's okay bud, talk to your dad... whom I sure would have freaked out and made him go to church and I doubt that would have stopped his urges and compulsions.
@@OAwesomeO yeah but he wasnt just a random person he was a doctor and seemed like a smart friendly guy. And yeah jeff was a minor one more reason he shouldve helped, for starters he should’ve controlled his face expression like jeff did smth horrible because he didnt, and no im not saying he should’ve dated jeff lmao just tell him that its okay and theres nothing wrong with it. Im sure he was educated and smart enough to know that its okay. Maybe they wouldn’t be able to cure jeff even if they noticed but they could prevent him from taking lives.
@@Xoxo-se3pt Well this wasn't a real scenario to begin with but if it was I doubt any straight/religious guy in the 70s would have thought it was okay...
Something about the way he said "here I am" made me tear up a bit. It sounded so miserably genuine even though it was supposedly just apart of the act for his quote on quote "comedy routine."
Ms.Milkies Yes. I feel my original comment applies more so to the killer Aileen Wuornos. They call her monster. But i definitely think she was a product of society. Society definitely failed her early in life. She wouldn't apologize for what she did. Almost like it was revenge or pay-back. Society hurt and failed her, so she hurt and failed society right back.
Cherry Cola You dont think society fails some children ? Neglected children with heroin addicts for parents should always be ignored by civilized society ? Just let the baby starve to death when the parents are shooting up all day and night ? Social services and child protection services should not exist or do the jobs properly that they are paid to do ? Beaten kids, and mentally and sexually abused children should be ignored by society and just left in a shitty environment ?
All monsters were once children, most of them hurt and abused terribly. I don't sympathize at all with Dahmer after he decided to hurt people, but the neglected boy he was before will always have my sympathy. I wish just one person could have been there to accept and help him, although in the end, all the love in the world may not have been enough. What a waste.
All of these theories on how if “people actually spent real time” with Jeff, they would have “possibly cure his sickness”. I think because it was the way he was, which made him mostly a very lonely person, placed him in a very vulnerable mental status. Surely he already had compulsive images of murder, but additional intoxicants allowed for him to reserve no emotion at all while he killed. Essentially; a twisted mind turned lonely through ongoing abuse.
Zack Rose he said in a interview that he had sexual/murder fantasoes since he was passing to puberty and found out he was gay. Hes also according to hif father disected and was fascinated with the inside of dead animals.and at that time he was young lik 7 or 8 and he did have friends and was social. He was just mentally ill having friends or not would not jave change him
But if his teachers or parents had paid attention to the fact that he was a kid who spent 24-7 steaming drunk, they might've been able to get him mental help. Sure he might've never really been happy but they might've been able to stop him from killing anyone if they'd done their jobs and picked up on obvious warning signs in their own son and the teacher's their own student
Mason Mcleod It is impossible to help someone who does not want help. Jeff masked his demonic sickness too well, and people still get chills comprehending how a face like his, could be capable of such terrible things. Jeff was lost in a world of which he saw it being against him completely. His drinking was under the radar when it came to him being with his parents. Plus back then, it certainly was less regulated like today’s standards, so even his parents thought it to be a teenage phase. He hid everything for a reason; he wanted to be his truest self, he wanted to repay the world with his evilness because a part of Jeffery wanted to expose his bad side. Him deceiving everyone he knew was done for the reason being; because he wanted kill, deceive, and kill some more. There was no helping him. His actions and personality pinpointed him towards an impulsive “class clown,” in school, but nothing demonic truly presented itself. Teachers did mention things to Jeffery’s parents. But it was more like one of those sit-down conversations•your son is being disruptive•smack on the hand•onwards you go. There was absolutely no helping this genuine monster. Not whatsoever. Look at him now.
1. You know that people are born gay right? Its in the genetics. It is not because of the environment. 2. Same as this. People are born psychopath. It is not because of their friends or the environement. You moral code should be consistent. Dont be double standards. Im not saying both of the above statement are my views. But i just wanted to make all of you think.
I honestly hate myself cause I have a crush on Ross Lynch and watching this movie was like ‘Oh damn bitch he’s fine..wait he is meant to be Jeffery Dahmer.’
He was always going to be a killer. For him it was nature. There was something seriously wrong with him. Something incurable. Good friends couldn’t have prevented the inevitable
if i remember correctly he’d been having necrophilia fantasies since puberty... i don’t think having more genuine friends would’ve saved him. he already considered his time with his friends the best time of his life
He did those stupid things because he knew those "friends" would leave him behind no matter how hard he tried. He was also mimicking his depressed mother. He believed that no one stays with him and the only way to make people stay with him, is by killing them
I felt sorry for Jeff here,used by his so called mates,the book is more Graphic describing this scene,Derf could'nt ditch him fast enough afterwards......Some friend !,even if Jeff was a mascot....rather than a pal,so he writes !
This scene breaks my heart. The guy just wanted some fucking friends and to not feel so alone. Because of the way things happened, he ended up becoming a monster. Makes me wish things had turned out differently and no one would've died and who knows maybe he could've been a good person
Its more than just wanting friends, his family was disfuntional his hobbies were surreal from a young age. I feel for him too after this movie though. Poor fucker
He was a psychopath. Psychopaths cannot be treated. They are born this way. Sure, it does not necessarily mean you become a serial killer, but it puts you at risk.
Charlotte Casey psychopaths aren’t born that way, they’re made. With the help of others anyone can get better. Haven’t you seen the improvement of a little girl who was diagnosed as a psychopath? I forgot her name but google it
He was a lonely guy, he kept to himself a lot. Doing dissection on road kill that mix with the realization of being gay. Drinking constantly, no wonder he went crazy.
I can't imagine having to be one of those people who went to high school with him, let alone actually knew who he was, hanged out with him, to find out years later who he would become.
They actually had a scene like that in the graphic novel when Derf hears the news. The funny thing is that Dahmer wasn't even the first person to come to mind...
I actually felt bad for him for a few minutes but then I remembered how many innocent people he killed and how he would treat his victims, snapped out it rq
i think the baby boomer generation is one of the most violent generations.. Dahmer is a boomer, Ted Bundy was a boomer, Stephen Paddock was a boomer (las vegas hotel killer), etc..
@@yoleeisbored Jeffrey Dahmer was born in 1960. I think boomers were born post WW2 1945 so called because the men returned from the war resulting in high numbers of birth. His father Lionel 1940.
Everyone has different psychological and cognitive makeup. Some people are predisposed to certain things. Some people could live the life Dahmer have and be perfectly happy, some people could become depressed and suicidal, and some people could develop sociopathic tendencies.
War Fox i see your point with all that he was going through, but there are probably a lot of people who have gone through the same number of things or maybe other traumas, that’s are still completely sane! yes, what you experience could impact the factors of mental illnesses or insanity but not always!
@Warfox this stuff happens, lot of people go through some of the toughest shit, it only adds like a gallon of alcohol with a match tossed in on the wound, especially on people who are already mentally sick or have sick urges like dahmer did. he admitted too that he saw people and animals as objects and treated them as if they were nothing
This movie isn't a cinematic masterpiece or anything (far from it), but this is possibly the best scene and moment in the movie, which encapsulates the key themes and makes for a great climax. It shows the breaking point of a troubled soul, but rather than a large display like others do in a midlife crisis, dahmer gets increasingly more tame subverting the narrative. The shots and cinematography show how life is passing him by slowly as they stop noticing his existence and he is left to his own thoughts. The alcohol numbed this feeling for a while, but it finally comes out in his command performance when he realizes this truth of the world and falls into darkness. One of the saddest scenes I have scene in while, and both the bullies and the future murderer horrify my about the existence of the human race. Wish we had more scenes like this in movies, and wish this movie was better so we could get it some recognition for a great scene like this.
I'd say that if this movie was told from Backderf's perspective and included an aftermath interview of the real Backderf, then perhaps this movie would've had a better chance of being nominated. After all, the film is titled "My Friend Dahmer," which is based on a graphic novel written by Backderf.
What’s crazy is that this might not have even happened to him if he had a family who loved him. They all left him at a young age. He came home from school one day to an empty house and had to finish high school on his own. Literally.
TigerLily Not true. Dahmer had surgery at the age of four for a hernia and after that he was distant and withdrawn. Before that he was described as an energetic, normal kid. Yes, his upbringing and shitty homelife played a part in molding him but that surgery is something that is always overlooked.
grace crxmb really? Wow! That’s very true. I just think that it wasn’t just something like his mental health that caused him to torture and kill. I personally believe that a lot of this had to do with his mentality and external forces molding him into the killer he was destined to be.
TigerLily Yeah! I definitely agree with you. Our surroundings and upbringing have a huge affect on who we become. I'm pretty sure if Jeffrey didn't undergo the surgery he just might have turned out differently. I think it had a big impact on his brain, for whatever reason
I feel sympathetic to anyone, up until they make the decision to commit a heinous act. I feel bad for the young Dahmer who needed help. I feel bad for him in this scene. Everything before, is sad. After that, the part of him that could have been a healthy adult is gone, and the boy is dead. He's just a monster now.
me as well. i feel this way with my abusive father. i feel horrible for the absolute horrors his child self went through, but the second he decided to do the exact same thing to me, i felt little to no guilt. i only feel guilty because he is a sad, sad human being ans can never take back what he did. a shame, really.
Grandiosa escena, me saco alguna sonrisa pero también me hizo reflexionar que en vez de ayudarlo a superar sus problemas emocionales, su familia y amigos lo empujaron a terminar siendo un psicópata.😥😥😥
Its just sad to know that people need help, they literally begged for it once. And then they let go. It's not like Jeffrey didn't try to be normal, or to fit in, it's just that he didn't have a place in the horrible small town he was in. If he held on a little longer, he would have been a motivational speaker, or a success story that people tell kids in high school auditoriums. But he couldn't. And people will never know him as a human, much less one who just needed help. A shoulder to cry on, or even just a boyfriend who wasn't ashamed of him. He's nothing but a maniac
A couple summers ago, I saw something outside that looked like that bench he jumped on. I told my friend that it looked like something Jeff would spazz on. This was before I ever saw the movie or comic book.
mike kukral said in a podcast that Jeff dahmer did this all by himself others words...He came up with this idea. so he could get some money for booze . It wasn't like this. They didnt make him do it.
I actually read the comic recently. Its sad and realistic. It may seem easy to have be sympathetic to terrible upbringings, as with many similar killers. However, some of these people lack a concious. I think before this he attempted to kill someone prior. Alot of people have bad upbringings, but its no excuse to be a monster.
Parents are a big role in this, if his parents stayed together and not leave him the house by himself during his graduation he would have gone to college and not disappear killing people because he was lonely.
I sincerely like see this type of movies, documentaries and others to "understand" the mind of psycho people. In most cases I discover that what leads a person qualified as "normal" to become this, is society, among others factors. This is really insane, we're more concerned with trying to eliminate these persons than with knowing why this happens. Maybe Jeffrey just a curious guy that let himself be carried away by his impulses, it doesn't justify it, at all but we should be more human with this kind of situations, since normal people can transform into psycho just for feeling lonely (REPEAT THAT I DON'T TRY TO JUSTIFY HIM). Although I like to think that If he had some support, he might not have twistew his way. Because this scene, reminds me how all of us are fuck up, look him in this part (I know that is a movie) and then tell me what you see. At the end my existential question about this is, the psycho born or is it made?
Je trouve que c'est une illustration parfaite de la façon dont est considérée la maladie mentale à cette époque, on en riait plus qu'on s'en souciait, que ce soient avec des symptômes physiques apparents comme M.Burlmann ou mentaux parfois invisibles comme Jeffrey... C'est vraiment une scène très triste et une prise de conscience de Jeffrey du gouffre qui le sépare des autres et le fait qu'il n'était pas considéré comme un véritable ami à leurs yeux...😔
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It's brilliant how he is awkward and a bit creepy all the way through the film until he decides to pick up his first victim, then he smiles at that guy with a completely normal charming smile.
crowe bobby right, but they say it was part of his charm
I know, I just like how the director/writer brought it out. There was a French film about the "vampire of Dusseldorf" serial killer, which played it from the opposite side showing the killer as this really charming friendly guy until he would suddenly turn into the terrifying monster when the bloodlust struck. And it was done with just his expression, no makeup or trick lighting.
crowe bobby i love when a directors and actors are able to do that , it's so rare now days
DEADASS THOO
If this is based on a true story and that guy has a video camera then that must mean that they caught this on video oh man if they have uploaded this to TH-cam this would have got 2 billion views
Notice Derf's facial expression after Dahmer continues to behave like a buffoon. At some point he realized they took it too far with him.
Fun fact; in real life, Backderf did not laugh along with his friends. What he saw Dahmer do on the way to the mall creeped him out. It was a ten minute drive to the mall, Dahmer was sitting in the backseat of Backderf's car. Jeffrey downed an entire six back of beer, drinking one can after the other. Backderf saw this, and realized that something was really wrong with him.
@FollowerOfJesus 101 And it was from there that Backderf decided to cut ties with Jeff, out of fear that something bad might happen to him if he remained with him.
Yeah, its not particularly subtle with the sad piano music cues to help if you didn't notice.
@@danieloneill9560 I did notice that Daniel.
Lol
Having real friends would not have made any difference. Jeffrey even said in his interview with Stone Phillips that he didn’t believe anything could have prevented him from going down the path that he did.
Yeah, exactly!
I respectfully disagree. If Dahmer has talked to someone about his problems I think he could’ve gone down a slightly different path
I don't know about that, I think if they were more sensitive about Dahmer instead making him look like a class fool.
Not really... Having true friends that care about you will surely help you and do everything to make you feel better. Our environment can have a huge impact on the mental health of someone.
@@sweetsoul3169 you can't change a psychopath.
Heartbreaking scene. And it's such a waste that this film and Ross Lynch's performance were utterly shunned by the Academy.
OhtheSuffering sorry but that was clearly not acadamy worthy...
Isabel Marie yes it was he did amazing
Isabel Marie Yes it was he was amazing
OhtheSuffering Ik, but they were uptight and overtly sensitive... it's like, this wasn't even Glorifying nor getting anyone to forget about his crimes, it was shining a light on who he was before he became infamous.
@@isabelhaupenthal9417 don't be a uptight fidget spinner. He didn't carve your Son/Brother/Father/or Uncle, not saying that your opinion is crap, but really open your eyes. If he sent a chill down your spine or made you uneasy, then that's an Academy Award Winner.
No excuse for what Jeff dahmer did to people in his life. And no excuse for what people did to Jeff dahmer in his life.
Best comment.
what jeff did was SO much more wrong
@@av9638 yeah but if he wasn't a bully and just being humiliated and was actually getting help and his parents checking in on him more often then not he probably would of changed.
@@av9638 really what this all comes down to is lack of attention from his parents I mean look at his mom, jeff empathized for his mother, but she still neglected him, and his brother got more of her attention. The dad did his best, but the mom wasn't helping so it was hard for him to raise him, not only when he was a teenager, but as a minor at the age of 10. I wouldn't be shocked, his mother was just as much as mean bully as the people in this video. I mean look at it this way hes a teenager, so still a minor obviously...He obviously got signs of behavior that typically is found in mental illnesses or what not. I don't think what he did was right, but the amount of guidance that he got as a kid was very little, and as a teenager it's very confusing for people, so if people don't play a role and tell him it's wrong or help him, that could make him think it's okay and his gory behavior on his victims to be just as okay.
@@av9638 You need understand these people start out as a minor with substance abuse and or mental abuse by someone in their life, trauma, or physical abuse, neglect by whomever is supposed to be their mother or father. This can affect a person's life in a negative and or positive manner, unfortunately for jeff here he just didn't get that moral support, so yes empathizing for his victims is good, but jeff was just as much as a victim emotionally speaking, and that lead to physical harm to others. My point to conclude these people aren't just like this, now some things may just naturally run through the family, but very rarely it's that, these peoples childhood were treated negatively with passion by some of their..... "parents"
so.. the monster was surrounded by other monsters
Alucard SC na the monster was surrounded by childish idiots they werent monsters
Alucard SC that’s what they want you to think to justify it a little
There’s a difference between someone who kills and eats people and immaturity
No... the monster was "created" by other monsters.
If by "other monsters" you mean his parents then I have to agree with you Hillary. From what I've read about Dahmer, his mother was mentally unstable and his father had very little if any connection with him. Eventually, his father and mother abandoned him completely. Both parents can be credited with his gradual descent into darkness.
You know the writers and director did a good job, if they were able to manipulate you into sympathizing for the future serial killer..l
Kbear2097 and actors
Sash a, forgot to include them, you're right.
Just cause the music is sad does not mean that’s what the director and writer were trying to portray.
Kbear2097 did u know this is a true story
I don't know did he?
The exact moment that Dahmer, and us, realize that he will never have a normal life. That is the saddest part.
I’m really impressed of how well Ross portrayed Dahmer. Watching this you would have never known he was on Disney channel
Wtf? Who he was playing?
@@Spectresss He played Austin from a Disney show called Austin and Ally and was in A Disney movie called Teen beach movie 1 and 2
I just thought to myself when Dahmer was pretending to have a seizure, and no one came up to him to make sure he was okay, if he was actually having a seizure, what would they do?
Maybe he was testing them to see if they were his real friends? Man, I hate jeffery’s actions, but I also hate people who take advantage of people with mental illnesses for their own entertainment smh.
he had already faked a seizure before in front of his friends and the people at the mall had already seen him acting out, so obviously they didn't think it was real.
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They knew he was doing a bit. He’d been at this shit for nearly an hour
@@standman6832 yes but what would they do if he had a real seizure
People in the comments sympathizing over this monster. Yeah he was abused, and made fun of, and yeah it sucks, but at the end of the day what he did to those men was his choice.
Westdog 01 If I was as hopeless as his life was, I’d kill people too.
Blade Runner Are you defending him? He still killed those people, and his mental illnesses don't justify that. I am not going to be like "Oh he just killed a bunch of people, but it's forgiveable because he had a rough childhood".
Westdog 01 I’m not justifying anything, I’m just saying I understand why people kill, and I understand why people commit suicide. No justification but it will always happen when life is that hopeless and miserable.
Westdog 01 yes but he was also a child once like everyone else
Blade Runner uh he was a psychopath before he was bullied he was gonna be a murder whether he was bullied or not he said it himself
If there was a kid actually recording this i wonder if they still have it. Im so interested in watching the real clip.His whole story is just so fascinating and sad
i wanna know too, not with intention to make fun of him or anything but just to see if in the actual real video, were there any red flags to him becoming a serial killer. Its fascinating how people don’t see the immediate signs to how the person is or will become
@@melanie.vallejo they did see but they didnt care enough to do anything. Everyone turned their backs on him. Especially that doctor that checked Jeffrey and realized hes gay, he left Jeffrey and make him feel so bad for it.
@@Xoxo-se3pt to be fair, that would be an extremely uncomfortable position to be in, especially with a minor and this was in the 70s. What could he have said... I'm not interested but it's okay bud, talk to your dad... whom I sure would have freaked out and made him go to church and I doubt that would have stopped his urges and compulsions.
@@OAwesomeO yeah but he wasnt just a random person he was a doctor and seemed like a smart friendly guy. And yeah jeff was a minor one more reason he shouldve helped, for starters he should’ve controlled his face expression like jeff did smth horrible because he didnt, and no im not saying he should’ve dated jeff lmao just tell him that its okay and theres nothing wrong with it. Im sure he was educated and smart enough to know that its okay. Maybe they wouldn’t be able to cure jeff even if they noticed but they could prevent him from taking lives.
@@Xoxo-se3pt Well this wasn't a real scenario to begin with but if it was I doubt any straight/religious guy in the 70s would have thought it was okay...
Something about the way he said "here I am" made me tear up a bit. It sounded so miserably genuine even though it was supposedly just apart of the act for his quote on quote "comedy routine."
Society helped shape and create the monster.
AESCULAPTORmark3 he himself said society isn't to blame
Ms.Milkies
Yes.
I feel my original comment applies more so to the killer Aileen Wuornos. They call her monster. But i definitely think she was a product of society. Society definitely failed her early in life.
She wouldn't apologize for what she did. Almost like it was revenge or pay-back. Society hurt and failed her, so she hurt and failed society right back.
Spyrim.
Its like the line from Scarface. "You need people like me so you can point your fingers and say, thats the bad guy."
AESCULAPTORmark3 nope
Cherry Cola
You dont think society fails some children ? Neglected children with heroin addicts for parents should always be ignored by civilized society ? Just let the baby starve to death when the parents are shooting up all day and night ? Social services and child protection services should not exist or do the jobs properly that they are paid to do ? Beaten kids, and mentally and sexually abused children should be ignored by society and just left in a shitty environment ?
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always makes me laugh
Me too haha
Lord Sasquatch same lmao 😂
Lord Sasquatch lol
Lmaooo
It creeped the fuck out of me
Low key me when im at the mall.
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Low key?
DJ DARIANA me when a women Rejects me.
Same
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All monsters were once children, most of them hurt and abused terribly. I don't sympathize at all with Dahmer after he decided to hurt people, but the neglected boy he was before will always have my sympathy. I wish just one person could have been there to accept and help him, although in the end, all the love in the world may not have been enough. What a waste.
All of these theories on how if “people actually spent real time” with Jeff, they would have “possibly cure his sickness”. I think because it was the way he was, which made him mostly a very lonely person, placed him in a very vulnerable mental status. Surely he already had compulsive images of murder, but additional intoxicants allowed for him to reserve no emotion at all while he killed. Essentially; a twisted mind turned lonely through ongoing abuse.
Zack Rose he said in a interview that he had sexual/murder fantasoes since he was passing to puberty and found out he was gay. Hes also according to hif father disected and was fascinated with the inside of dead animals.and at that time he was young lik 7 or 8 and he did have friends and was social. He was just mentally ill having friends or not would not jave change him
- XXXUchihacion - yes, that was my overall point. Thank you for elaborating.
But if his teachers or parents had paid attention to the fact that he was a kid who spent 24-7 steaming drunk, they might've been able to get him mental help. Sure he might've never really been happy but they might've been able to stop him from killing anyone if they'd done their jobs and picked up on obvious warning signs in their own son and the teacher's their own student
Mason Mcleod It is impossible to help someone who does not want help. Jeff masked his demonic sickness too well, and people still get chills comprehending how a face like his, could be capable of such terrible things. Jeff was lost in a world of which he saw it being against him completely. His drinking was under the radar when it came to him being with his parents. Plus back then, it certainly was less regulated like today’s standards, so even his parents thought it to be a teenage phase. He hid everything for a reason; he wanted to be his truest self, he wanted to repay the world with his evilness because a part of Jeffery wanted to expose his bad side. Him deceiving everyone he knew was done for the reason being; because he wanted kill, deceive, and kill some more. There was no helping him. His actions and personality pinpointed him towards an impulsive “class clown,” in school, but nothing demonic truly presented itself. Teachers did mention things to Jeffery’s parents. But it was more like one of those sit-down conversations•your son is being disruptive•smack on the hand•onwards you go. There was absolutely no helping this genuine monster. Not whatsoever. Look at him now.
1. You know that people are born gay right? Its in the genetics. It is not because of the environment.
2. Same as this. People are born psychopath. It is not because of their friends or the environement.
You moral code should be consistent. Dont be double standards.
Im not saying both of the above statement are my views. But i just wanted to make all of you think.
This honestly makes me sad for him. He just wanted some friends at that point. It’s sad he turned into something he wasn’t alwayd
Or be put into a mental institution for life.
I honestly hate myself cause I have a crush on Ross Lynch and watching this movie was like ‘Oh damn bitch he’s fine..wait he is meant to be Jeffery Dahmer.’
He was always going to be a killer. For him it was nature. There was something seriously wrong with him. Something incurable. Good friends couldn’t have prevented the inevitable
Vghtp1234 he raped and killed men and children...
if i remember correctly he’d been having necrophilia fantasies since puberty... i don’t think having more genuine friends would’ve saved him. he already considered his time with his friends the best time of his life
People don’t know how luck they are to be normal
Do you think dahmer is a normal person?
@@Alex-gm6yv no
dude he was doing this on purpose
@@koostattoos-8859 he was basically making fun of his mom I guess
i feel bad for laughing....
Devon Sterling I don't
I thought it was funny the first couple seconds then it just made me sad
Devon Sterling I don’t It was a good laugh
Devon Sterling that’s like saying you feel bad for hitler because of his failed art career
Dahmer acted like that to make people laugh or to gain attention
When this scene came on at the theater I started tearing up.
Ross Lynch is so incredibly talented this deserves so much more recognition
He did those stupid things because he knew those "friends" would leave him behind no matter how hard he tried. He was also mimicking his depressed mother. He believed that no one stays with him and the only way to make people stay with him, is by killing them
C'est un constat douleureux...😔🥺
I felt sorry for Jeff here,used by his so called mates,the book is more Graphic describing this scene,Derf could'nt ditch him fast enough afterwards......Some friend !,even if Jeff was a mascot....rather than a pal,so he writes !
Ian J Whyte feel bad for the people he murdered and tortured
With respect i do,but Jeff didn't kill anyone in the mall that day..
What was the name of the book?
My Friend Dahmer
I would’ve felt sorry in some way if it wasn’t for his future
This scene breaks my heart. The guy just wanted some fucking friends and to not feel so alone. Because of the way things happened, he ended up becoming a monster. Makes me wish things had turned out differently and no one would've died and who knows maybe he could've been a good person
Its more than just wanting friends, his family was disfuntional his hobbies were surreal from a young age. I feel for him too after this movie though. Poor fucker
But dahmer got killed in jail
He was a psychopath. Psychopaths cannot be treated. They are born this way. Sure, it does not necessarily mean you become a serial killer, but it puts you at risk.
Mason Mcleod I partially agree, only because he was a RAPIST and MURDERER.
Charlotte Casey psychopaths aren’t born that way, they’re made. With the help of others anyone can get better. Haven’t you seen the improvement of a little girl who was diagnosed as a psychopath? I forgot her name but google it
It makes me feel sad when he says BACKDERF here I am!!! He sounds used
Im pretty sure he said "FANCLUB" instead of "BACKDERF"
He was a lonely guy, he kept to himself a lot. Doing dissection on road kill that mix with the realization of being gay. Drinking constantly, no wonder he went crazy.
Filthy Frank
Venom MokoAutist deadass what I thought when he was on the floor
Venom MokoAutist finally someone said it
Filthy Jeff
Hamburger plz
I can't imagine having to be one of those people who went to high school with him, let alone actually knew who he was, hanged out with him, to find out years later who he would become.
They actually had a scene like that in the graphic novel when Derf hears the news. The funny thing is that Dahmer wasn't even the first person to come to mind...
Nowadays if you did this you would be arrested
And on worldstar
Yes you would.
Have you not heard of TH-cam prank videos?
Lol
True even if your a kid
You can really see in his eyes how unhappy he is. It's sad.
I actually felt bad for him for a few minutes but then I remembered how many innocent people he killed and how he would treat his victims, snapped out it rq
Same here. I feel bad for feeling any sympathy for him. :/
He is so great at portraying his character, i got chills😨
Past generations: you kidz are the worst
Meanwhile past generations:
i think the baby boomer generation is one of the most violent generations.. Dahmer is a boomer, Ted Bundy was a boomer, Stephen Paddock was a boomer (las vegas hotel killer), etc..
Ringo Not to mention that they were raised by WW2 veterans
@@yoleeisbored Jeffrey Dahmer was born in 1960. I think boomers were born post WW2 1945 so called because the men returned from the war resulting in high numbers of birth. His father Lionel 1940.
I really enjoyed this movie. The scene at the end where his friend gives him a ride home was creepy af.
Jack Kelly I really enjoyed this movie too Ross Lynch played Jeffrey Dahmer very well almost as good as Jeremy Renner did in the 2002 movie Dahmer
Is the movie scary at all??
Melissa Chavez no jump scares or anything. Just an insight into a serial killers mind. It’s a great flick.
the scence at the end was his first victum. He's a serial killer
Aerolitical I wasn’t referring to the last scene of the movie. I was talking about the scene with his friend from school.
He didn’t kill because he needs friends....a lot of people get bullied and don’t have friends. We don’t all turn into killers
Hollywood indoctrination. It's sad that people believe exactly what the movie leads them to believe.
Everyone has different psychological and cognitive makeup. Some people are predisposed to certain things. Some people could live the life Dahmer have and be perfectly happy, some people could become depressed and suicidal, and some people could develop sociopathic tendencies.
War Fox i see your point with all that he was going through, but there are probably a lot of people who have gone through the same number of things or maybe other traumas, that’s are still completely sane! yes, what you experience could impact the factors of mental illnesses or insanity but not always!
lmaoo shut up marissa
@Warfox this stuff happens, lot of people go through some of the toughest shit, it only adds like a gallon of alcohol with a match tossed in on the wound, especially on people who are already mentally sick or have sick urges like dahmer did. he admitted too that he saw people and animals as objects and treated them as if they were nothing
The movie did a good job of making it feel like the seventies but at the same time, it felt natural and just like it was "modern day" for the time
That's a spot on remark!
This movie isn't a cinematic masterpiece or anything (far from it), but this is possibly the best scene and moment in the movie, which encapsulates the key themes and makes for a great climax. It shows the breaking point of a troubled soul, but rather than a large display like others do in a midlife crisis, dahmer gets increasingly more tame subverting the narrative. The shots and cinematography show how life is passing him by slowly as they stop noticing his existence and he is left to his own thoughts. The alcohol numbed this feeling for a while, but it finally comes out in his command performance when he realizes this truth of the world and falls into darkness. One of the saddest scenes I have scene in while, and both the bullies and the future murderer horrify my about the existence of the human race. Wish we had more scenes like this in movies, and wish this movie was better so we could get it some recognition for a great scene like this.
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Good analysis. This scene almost brought me to tears.
I'd say that if this movie was told from Backderf's perspective and included an aftermath interview of the real Backderf, then perhaps this movie would've had a better chance of being nominated. After all, the film is titled "My Friend Dahmer," which is based on a graphic novel written by Backderf.
This is just so unsettling to me but I feel like without context and with different music I’d be hysterically laughing right now
0:42 Me walking back to class after going to the restroom
Lmao
0:49
march to the beat.. march to the beat gonna do my thang
Flea Bee 😂😂😂😂
0:45 Dahmer doing the McGregor walk
Oh so you're a wrestler now dead asf 😂😂
more like Liam Gallagher tho
💀😂😂
What’s crazy is that this might not have even happened to him if he had a family who loved him. They all left him at a young age. He came home from school one day to an empty house and had to finish high school on his own. Literally.
TigerLily Not true. Dahmer had surgery at the age of four for a hernia and after that he was distant and withdrawn. Before that he was described as an energetic, normal kid. Yes, his upbringing and shitty homelife played a part in molding him but that surgery is something that is always overlooked.
grace crxmb really? Wow! That’s very true. I just think that it wasn’t just something like his mental health that caused him to torture and kill. I personally believe that a lot of this had to do with his mentality and external forces molding him into the killer he was destined to be.
TigerLily Yeah! I definitely agree with you. Our surroundings and upbringing have a huge affect on who we become. I'm pretty sure if Jeffrey didn't undergo the surgery he just might have turned out differently. I think it had a big impact on his brain, for whatever reason
grace crxmb oh, absolutely!
You both realize you two said he had a horrible upbringing yet one said the other was untrue when it was not right?
This scene broke my heart
it really did
this performance is better than the 2002 dahmer film
Yes
When your crush asks you to meet her at the apartment later and you walk back to your friends like:
0:43
Lmao 😂
He was definitely the funniest serial killer ever
Yeah
This is one of my favorite scenes.
Ross lynch did really well for this scene you can tell he’s pretending to spazz and see he’s drunk at the same time.
I sorry but at 0:49 when he crouched on the floor I just lost it💀
Same
ok.. so it was funny at first.. until i kinda realized.. something was actually wrong with his brain.. at that moment 1:31
no, he was mocking his mother's seizures.
ohhh... makes sense
strawbearii slimes yeah but you can see he's hurting and sad as well
I feel sympathetic to anyone, up until they make the decision to commit a heinous act. I feel bad for the young Dahmer who needed help. I feel bad for him in this scene. Everything before, is sad. After that, the part of him that could have been a healthy adult is gone, and the boy is dead. He's just a monster now.
me as well. i feel this way with my abusive father. i feel horrible for the absolute horrors his child self went through, but the second he decided to do the exact same thing to me, i felt little to no guilt. i only feel guilty because he is a sad, sad human being ans can never take back what he did. a shame, really.
I love that he’s literally just filthy frank
I feel like ross was having the time of his life doing this
I wish Ross lynch did the dahmer series on Netflix but the guy who played him did well but I think he could have given us a great performance as well
If only TH-cam was a thing back then he would have been a Internet celebrity.
Definitely 😸
😢
i don’t remember this scene from austin and ally?
This clip evokes such emotion in the viewer. You feel as if you are actually seeing this in public.
I love how the scene goes from odd to creepy and then to just downright sad.
Is this Jake Paul?
Kristopher.Stull yes
No it’s Timothy treadwell the grizzly man.
no holy crap no
I guess I'm a terrible person because I laughed my ass off at these scenes. I wish I had the balls to do something over-the-top like that.
Grandiosa escena, me saco alguna sonrisa pero también me hizo reflexionar que en vez de ayudarlo a superar sus problemas emocionales, su familia y amigos lo empujaron a terminar siendo un psicópata.😥😥😥
God damn this shits hilarious especially 0:49
R.I.P J.Dahmer
This is actually me when go to the mall alone tho
Excellent acting!!
reminds me of pinkguy
this film was so snubbed.
i feel bad for laughing, but when he mimicks the little girl i have to laugh
It was kind of funny for the first few moments, until the music kicked in, I then began to feel guilty
idk why but i started crying .
Its just sad to know that people need help, they literally begged for it once. And then they let go.
It's not like Jeffrey didn't try to be normal, or to fit in, it's just that he didn't have a place in the horrible small town he was in. If he held on a little longer, he would have been a motivational speaker, or a success story that people tell kids in high school auditoriums.
But he couldn't.
And people will never know him as a human, much less one who just needed help. A shoulder to cry on, or even just a boyfriend who wasn't ashamed of him.
He's nothing but a maniac
Dhamer had big anxiety... You could tell he was irritated by what... We don't know. He was frustrated with his mind. This was such a sad scene.
I see Peter at HEREDITARY
A couple summers ago, I saw something outside that looked like that bench he jumped on. I told my friend that it looked like something Jeff would spazz on. This was before I ever saw the movie or comic book.
Hard to imagine this actually going on for 2 fucking hours lol
If this actually happened I feel bad
It did
It did
mike kukral said in a podcast that Jeff dahmer did this all by himself others words...He came up with this idea. so he could get some money for booze . It wasn't like this. They didnt make him do it.
Todd Lynch bruh Jeffrey Dahmer was hated when he was alive not dead
@@ladybhive1210 they didn’t make him do it either way, they still offered him money to and made him the laughing stock
When the US president talks about a reporter with cerebral palsy.
I actually read the comic recently. Its sad and realistic. It may seem easy to have be sympathetic to terrible upbringings, as with many similar killers. However, some of these people lack a concious. I think before this he attempted to kill someone prior. Alot of people have bad upbringings, but its no excuse to be a monster.
I wanna see the actual video for this.
0:38 me faking to not go school
This scene really hit me sometimes I feel I'm just playing a part
0:43 the walk.... I wanna do it so badly 😢
Gracias, me diste la idea de intentarlo y es es uff otra ondaa
That's me in public
0:48 When u trying to be quite walking around the house
Lmao
What is the name of the music track starting from 0:50?
I couldn't help but chuckle at the performance Ross did of Jeffrey Dalhmer, but also felt creeped out.
If they were to do another Dahmer movie this time focusing on the murder years, Ross Lynch should play Dahmer again.
I did that @0:49 at a Mall and someone said "Where's your Mommy, Sweetie?" Then I stood up and they walked away.
Lmao
I havent seen this yet but already i wamt part 2 to watch after.
This man is frighteningly good actor
Parents are a big role in this, if his parents stayed together and not leave him the house by himself during his graduation he would have gone to college and not disappear killing people because he was lonely.
Ikr. What kind of parents leave a 17-yr old boy alone to fend for himself??
0:48 cracked me up XD
what is the song before this scene?, the scene of the car where dahmer drinks beer.
I just realized that this could be one of the many “prank“ contents you see every other day on youtube these days
Wow I wanna see this movie so bad. It looks so interesting.
And Ross Lynch did a really good job by playing Jeffrey Dahmer
I sincerely like see this type of movies, documentaries and others to "understand" the mind of psycho people.
In most cases I discover that what leads a person qualified as "normal" to become this, is society, among others factors.
This is really insane, we're more concerned with trying to eliminate these persons than with knowing why this happens. Maybe Jeffrey just a curious guy that let himself be carried away by his impulses, it doesn't justify it, at all but we should be more human with this kind of situations, since normal people can transform into psycho just for feeling lonely (REPEAT THAT I DON'T TRY TO JUSTIFY HIM).
Although I like to think that If he had some support, he might not have twistew his way.
Because this scene, reminds me how all of us are fuck up, look him in this part (I know that is a movie) and then tell me what you see.
At the end my existential question about this is, the psycho born or is it made?
I think they are born. However, l read that not all psychopaths become serial killers.
Je trouve que c'est une illustration parfaite de la façon dont est considérée la maladie mentale à cette époque, on en riait plus qu'on s'en souciait, que ce soient avec des symptômes physiques apparents comme M.Burlmann ou mentaux parfois invisibles comme Jeffrey...
C'est vraiment une scène très triste et une prise de conscience de Jeffrey du gouffre qui le sépare des autres et le fait qu'il n'était pas considéré comme un véritable ami à leurs yeux...😔
Was this shot on site? I drove past his house on my way home from Akron and it was nearly identical.