00:01 Loudmouth 2:15 53 & 3rd 4:30 I wanna be your boyfriend 6:15 I dont care 8:10 Chainsaw 10:05 You should never have open that door 11:48 I cant be 13:44 Now i wanna sniff some glue 15:26 I dont wanna be learned/tammed 16:27 Whats your game 19:17 Yore gonna kill that girl 22:05 I dont wanna walk around with you 23:55 Today your love, tomorrow the wolrd
00:00 Loudmouth 02:14 53rd ' 3rd 04:36 I wanna be your boyfriend 06:18 I don't care 08:10 Texas chainaw massacre 10:07 You should have never opened that door 11:48 I can't be 13:44 Now i wanna sniff some glue 15:24 I don' wanna be tamed 16:27 What's your game? 19:19 You're gonna kill that girl 22:04 I don't wanna walk around with you 23:55 Today your love, tomorrow the world
☆Chainsaw... made me miss Joey really badly, i feel tears welling up. Such a purity in his delivery. Thanks for sharing this. I got to see 'em at the Palladium twice. It was such a great time for everyone. Greatest band/ performers ever♡♡♡♡☆
About 20 years ago I was the vocalist in a band named The Ramjets, we were supposed to record a bunch of less known Ramones songs, those plans fell through but it was fun rehearsing and making a demo anyway. "I can`t be" and "I don`t wanna be tamed" were among those songs. Great times, thanks for taking me back to them!
Ramones is the only band that make me want to grab my guitar and play all this songs again and again. This sound so pure, so raw and i never listened this demo so its like a new release for me, love it. Aguante Los Ramones, los más grandes de la historia
I’ve had a rough cassette of some of this since ‘75. I was a radio DJ and my then-GF went to hand out at the Sire Sudios for the weekend, to watch our friends, the Stanky Brown Band, recording their second Sire LP. They were in one studio and the Ramones were in the other down the hall. She came back Monday with a cassette she recorded of “the band down the hall, that all looked the same in leather biker jackets and torn jeans and they all had the same name.”
I've been listening to the Ramones since 1984, when I signed out and taped their 1st two albums from, yes, the Edmonton Public Library! Remember the library??? Still not bored with Ramones!
Loudmouth 53rd & 3rd I Wanna Be Your Boyfriend I Don’t Care Chain Saw You Should Never Have Opened That Door It Can’t Be Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue I Don’t Wanna Be Learned - I Don’t Wanna Be Tamed What’s Your Name You’re Gonna Kill That Girl I Don’t Wanna Walk Around with You Today Your Love, Tomorrow the World
by far the best sounding of all other recordings more raw slightly slowed down Joeys voice is fantastic seen them twice in LA back in the early Punk days...but this is what imagine them sounding at CBGBs......raw n with mistakes
To some people complaining about the speed: Tommy has stated in the past that a lot of these tracks (most of them) were purposedly mixed/mastered half a key step down (which also slightly took down the tempo) cause they didn't think record companies would bite if the songs were too fast.
I think you have it a little backwards. Tuning a half step down adds heaviness and also allows them to speed the tape slightly to sound tighter. Vocals have to be added later, otherwise they will sound artificially high pitched.
@@CharlieMoney777 Apologies.... I just didn't explain it correctly. lol. I'm referring to the final tape. The band would've played in the same key and at the same tempo as they always did. But they sound slower (and in another key) cause the final tapes were slowed down. Example: 53rd and 3rd (a song played in open E), sounds here like it's in D#. Or Loudmouth (played in the fret of A), now sounds like it's played in the fret of G#. EDIT: Wait a second.... i think i'm wrong about the half-key. Listening closer now: the slowed down tape led inn many cases to the songs brought down an ENTIRE key. Here, 53rd and 3rd is D (instead of E) and Loudmouth is in G (instead of A). Etc etc. But yeah - point being, Tommy stated in the past; the demo was slowed down on purpose before they were mailed out to labels.
i saw them live 9 times. once in New Haven CT the rest in NYC.....my go to LP is the live LP when you are felling down or depresses after an hour of the Ramones you will feel much better ready to face the world again......trust me
@@MarceloRomero360 I was living in Florida at that time. I saw the Ramones in Atlanta in 1976 (two nights of a four night gig, two shows each night), in Orlando in 1978, and in Gainesville in 1980. I moved to NYC in 1981 but I never saw the Ramones again.
I just can't listen the estudio recording albums after this anymore... man, it's sounds so so much better! The first formation of the Ramones is perfect.
@worklikekirkeovulcano6042 Demos and live are always my favorites, especially with punk rock. In particular Ramones were so much better with no studio production!!
The genius of the Ramones is their consiseness the simple chord progression the melody and the lyrics effectively conveyed a thought or emotion in a way that people actually talk....we need a new Ramones
Completely agree on their conciseness. I Wanna Be Your Boyfriend makes every other teenage boy in love song completely redundant by stripping out everything superfluous. It can't be topped. Another one I love is this bit in I Can't Be - 12:25 - literally told my life story in a handful of words!
@@chrispayne1824 cool dude....yeah and this came out we band like Yes and ELO and all these band that had 15 instruments and over produced with 15min solos this cut right through all the pretentiousness put this showed us we could start a band even if we were lame.....
Gracias ❤ Ramones , Un puñetazo en el estómago , tenian una imagen impactante y de banda , tenian buen sonido ,buenas letras y mejor show , Leyendas de este Planeta 🌏 Punk!
En 1994 tenia 16 años y los Ramones vinieron a mi ciudad natal Bahia Blanca..tocaron para 500 personas nada mas ..fué el mejor recital de mi vida..gracias Ramones!!
Was it a tad bit higher pitched than here? People are complaining that it sounds slower than they remember. I figured they all listened to a bootleg cassette back in the day. The other version of these demos that I’ve ripped was a bootleg LP sourced from a bootleg cassette and that was higher pitched than here.
The guitar sound alone was so much thicker and harder than the proto-punk acts that influenced them: MC5, Stooges, Dolls. I don't care what anyone says: the guitar sound that Johnny Ramone first put on tape is the true starting point of punk rock.
@@christianlewis6252 Fear??? Fear formed 3 bloody years AFTER the Ramones. Fear formed AFTER the Damned, the Dead Boys, The Clash, the Sex Pistols so how can Fear be the initial spark igniting punk rock? Also, you do realize that Lee Ving was a blues and country musician who started Fear as a SATIRE of punk rock right? Do you know what a satire is? He formed Fear to make fun of punk rock and cash in on it's popularity. And as long as he can make cash from it he's kept it going.
That' s very very loco, i can't believe, i feel so power when i listen to Ramones. Saludos desde Argentina 🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷, por siempre en nuestros corazones⛓️ 🤍⛓️
Ese sonido, en ese momento, debió haberle volado el sombrero a más de uno! Revolucionario... The Stooges, Mc5, Alice, NY Dolls, etc. eran el caldo de cultivo, pero esta banda además, era POP!
Ciertamente eran 'pop' y es una pena que la mayoría de la gente solo escuche un sonido monótono, aburrido y repetitivo. Ciertamente estaban influenciadas por esos grupos de chicas de principios de los 60. Su música es dura, sublime, ingeniosa, divertida, irreverente y, sobre todo, genial. Sus simples iconos
Olvidando a The Ramones por un momento, es simplemente "oh-tan-hip" nombrar a esas otras bandas que simplemente fueron ignoradas fuera de sus propias pequeñas burbujas en ese momento. Sus discos fueron borrados tan pronto como se imprimieron por falta de ventas, así de populares eran entre el público en ese entonces. Si el punk nunca existiera, seguirían siendo solo notas a pie de página olvidadas en la música moderna en lugar de venerados "héroes de la revolución"
Yea-- there is an old TapeOp interview of Tommy Ramone complaining about the drum sound on the final record-- basically they gated everything and killed the natural drum sound
26 minutes? Is this the Ramones entire catalog? Lol. Pure rock and roll from the first note. They did however slightly resemble their NYC contemporaries here. But only just.
00:00 Loudmouth 02:14 53rd ' 3rd 04:36 I wanna be your boyfriend 06:18 I don't care 08:10 Texas chainaw massacre 10:07 You should have never opened that door 11:48 I can't be 13:44 Now i wanna sniff some glue 15:24 I don' wanna be tamed 16:27 What's your game? 19:19 You're gonna kill that girl 22:04 I don't wanna walk around with you 23:55 Today your love, tomorrow the world
exactly. this is where it all began. i've heard songs before the Ramones that could be considered punk (stooges, mc5, etc), but in terms of where the blueprint lies, this is it.
00:01 Loudmouth
2:15 53 & 3rd
4:30 I wanna be your boyfriend
6:15 I dont care
8:10 Chainsaw
10:05 You should never have open that door
11:48 I cant be
13:44 Now i wanna sniff some glue
15:26 I dont wanna be learned/tammed
16:27 Whats your game
19:17 Yore gonna kill that girl
22:05 I dont wanna walk around with you
23:55 Today your love, tomorrow the wolrd
OP copy pasta into the description box! This guy is an Internet hero 🎉
23:55… Placing yourself in it is cool. Love punk.
00:00 Loudmouth
02:14 53rd ' 3rd
04:36 I wanna be your boyfriend
06:18 I don't care
08:10 Texas chainaw massacre
10:07 You should have never opened that door
11:48 I can't be
13:44 Now i wanna sniff some glue
15:24 I don' wanna be tamed
16:27 What's your game?
19:19 You're gonna kill that girl
22:04 I don't wanna walk around with you
23:55 Today your love, tomorrow the world
Thanks
@@LeahDyson-kq4bd any time
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☆Chainsaw... made me miss Joey really badly, i feel tears welling up. Such a purity in his delivery. Thanks for sharing this. I got to see 'em at the Palladium twice. It was such a great time for everyone. Greatest band/ performers ever♡♡♡♡☆
A mí también. Se lo extraña mucho 😢
I’ve been a Ramones fan my whole life and this is the first time I’ve ever heard this. This is amazing.
The best modern doo-wop group that never was. Saw them three times in the 1980's. Very LOUD! Miss them all dearly.
Greatest Rock N Roll Band Of All Time
Nie bylo Ramones przed Ramones
agree!
My wife and I were lucky enough to sang this on record store day. I'm glad someone uploaded it so everyone gets to at least hear it.
Damn. I shoulda bought it. I mean should buy it. Sounds good. Thought it was going to be like a bad bootleg. Shoulda known. Tnx for this.
About 20 years ago I was the vocalist in a band named The Ramjets, we were supposed to record a bunch of less known Ramones songs, those plans fell through but it was fun rehearsing and making a demo anyway. "I can`t be" and "I don`t wanna be tamed" were among those songs. Great times, thanks for taking me back to them!
Ramones is the only band that make me want to grab my guitar and play all this songs again and again. This sound so pure, so raw and i never listened this demo so its like a new release for me, love it. Aguante Los Ramones, los más grandes de la historia
Mind Blown... the demos are sweeter than the studio album versions.
This is outstanding, thanks so much for posting this treasure find..
In many ways, better than the finished article. 😮❤❤❤
One of my all time favorite records!!! 2024 and beyond !!!!
cant believe i never heard this before. this is GOLD!!!!
I'm blessed.to have seen them.
'92
Baltimore , MD .❤❤❤🤗💛😎😉👏👌😁😍✨✨✨✨
Demos???? they sound really great! 10/10
I’ve had a rough cassette of some of this since ‘75. I was a radio DJ and my then-GF went to hand out at the Sire Sudios for the weekend, to watch our friends, the Stanky Brown Band, recording their second Sire LP. They were in one studio and the Ramones were in the other down the hall. She came back Monday with a cassette she recorded of “the band down the hall, that all looked the same in leather biker jackets and torn jeans and they all had the same name.”
The bass sound is amazing! Pure and genuine...
I've been listening to the Ramones since 1984, when I signed out and taped their 1st two albums from, yes, the Edmonton Public Library! Remember the library??? Still not bored with Ramones!
I once had some paco Ramones copyright albums
Loudmouth
53rd & 3rd
I Wanna Be Your Boyfriend
I Don’t Care
Chain Saw
You Should Never Have Opened That Door
It Can’t Be
Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue
I Don’t Wanna Be Learned - I Don’t Wanna Be Tamed
What’s Your Name
You’re Gonna Kill That Girl
I Don’t Wanna Walk Around with You
Today Your Love, Tomorrow the World
thats great, never tought about hearing ramones that way, thanks for the upload.
Today Your Love, Tomorrow Your World ... awesome
I'm being transported back to the late 70's when I first heard these songs, wonderful.
Solid fucking unit, 4 parts that function perfectly together, smooth gears perfectly turned, no reason to add or subtract anything.
Love the bass
by far the best sounding of all other recordings more raw slightly slowed down Joeys voice is fantastic seen them twice in LA back in the early Punk days...but this is what imagine them sounding at CBGBs......raw n with mistakes
To some people complaining about the speed: Tommy has stated in the past that a lot of these tracks (most of them) were purposedly mixed/mastered half a key step down (which also slightly took down the tempo) cause they didn't think record companies would bite if the songs were too fast.
I think you have it a little backwards. Tuning a half step down adds heaviness and also allows them to speed the tape slightly to sound tighter. Vocals have to be added later, otherwise they will sound artificially high pitched.
@@CharlieMoney777 Apologies.... I just didn't explain it correctly. lol. I'm referring to the final tape. The band would've played in the same key and at the same tempo as they always did. But they sound slower (and in another key) cause the final tapes were slowed down.
Example: 53rd and 3rd (a song played in open E), sounds here like it's in D#. Or Loudmouth (played in the fret of A), now sounds like it's played in the fret of G#.
EDIT: Wait a second.... i think i'm wrong about the half-key. Listening closer now: the slowed down tape led inn many cases to the songs brought down an ENTIRE key. Here, 53rd and 3rd is D (instead of E) and Loudmouth is in G (instead of A). Etc etc.
But yeah - point being, Tommy stated in the past; the demo was slowed down on purpose before they were mailed out to labels.
@@LongGone77 thank you for your further explanation.
@@CharlieMoney777 Ramones fans are the best music fans in the world.
@@LongGone77 quick math says this would be "original" at 1.12x speed. listening at 1.15x it sounds pretty good/accurate to this guy
That picture of them on the Subway 🚇 was hanging upstairs at Max's Kansas City..
Johnnys guitar style was absolute unique and straight ahead using only downstrokes on his Mosrite. Absolutely love it!!
i saw them live 9 times. once in New Haven CT the rest in NYC.....my go to LP is the live LP when you are felling down or depresses after an hour of the Ramones you will feel much better ready to face the world again......trust me
Did you see the Ramones play at toads place in New Haven?
@@kckstnd8 yes. i was working at WTNH tv and after work went there sat in the balcony with a Michael Jackson type vinyl jacket.
@@aNYCdjyes channel 8. What a great time to be in New Haven
I remember seeing this picture of the them on the subway (and others) in ROCK SCENE MAGAZINE in 1975.
I grew up on 72nd street, N.Y.C. ROCK SCENE magazine was my bible!!! All the cool shit happening downtown.
@@MarceloRomero360 I was living in Florida at that time. I saw the Ramones in Atlanta in 1976 (two nights of a four night gig, two shows each night), in Orlando in 1978, and in Gainesville in 1980. I moved to NYC in 1981 but I never saw the Ramones again.
Ein wunderbares Demo. Erinnert mich an die Anfänge und das Gefühl, das erste Mal Ramones zu hören. Mit diesen Demos ist das Gefühl sofort wieder da.
Thanks for posting! Always loved the song “I Can’t Be” which I have on a Ramones demo CD (same recording here)
Ramones the first and original punk rock band 1974 and beyond , Legendados never forgotten
I just can't listen the estudio recording albums after this anymore... man, it's sounds so so much better! The first formation of the Ramones is perfect.
Dee Dee Punk Roots
@worklikekirkeovulcano6042 Demos and live are always my favorites, especially with punk rock.
In particular Ramones were so much better with no studio production!!
Let's go!!!!
The genius of the Ramones is their consiseness the simple chord progression the melody and the lyrics effectively conveyed a thought or emotion in a way that people actually talk....we need a new Ramones
Completely agree on their conciseness. I Wanna Be Your Boyfriend makes every other teenage boy in love song completely redundant by stripping out everything superfluous. It can't be topped. Another one I love is this bit in I Can't Be - 12:25 - literally told my life story in a handful of words!
@@chrispayne1824 cool dude....yeah and this came out we band like Yes and ELO and all these band that had 15 instruments and over produced with 15min solos this cut right through all the pretentiousness put this showed us we could start a band even if we were lame.....
Mickey Leigh, Marky Ramone, Richie Ramone and C.J. Ramone would be a nice SUBSITUTE (pun intended). And Mickey even sounds like his brother, Joey.
@@chrispayne1824I agree I wanna be your boyfriend is my favorite song
First time hearing these recordings, makes me appreciate and love the first record more, so tight so fast. Ramones fur immer.
Gracias ❤
Ramones , Un puñetazo en el estómago , tenian una imagen impactante y de banda , tenian buen sonido ,buenas letras y mejor show , Leyendas de este Planeta 🌏 Punk!
En 1994 tenia 16 años y los Ramones vinieron a mi ciudad natal Bahia Blanca..tocaron para 500 personas nada mas
..fué el mejor recital de mi vida..gracias Ramones!!
Yo los escuché por primera vez cuando fui a un local de videos juegos. Un pibe puso en la rocola un tema y desde ahí no pare , tenía 17 años hoy 47
Yo tenia 14 años, me compre en una disqueria el cassette del primer disco y de ahi hasta el dia de hoy lo tengo y lo escucho.
This is amazing !!! Sounds so sick !!!
I had this on a bootleg cassette back in the early 90’s. PHENOMENAL! Thanks for loading this up for easy listening!
Was it a tad bit higher pitched than here? People are complaining that it sounds slower than they remember. I figured they all listened to a bootleg cassette back in the day. The other version of these demos that I’ve ripped was a bootleg LP sourced from a bootleg cassette and that was higher pitched than here.
@@dipadyck no, it’s def the same pitch, but overall, your copy sounds better for sure.
I enjoy easy listening music.
This album rocks - pay homage to the gods of punk.
I met The Ramones at a record store signing. Joey was very nice, slow talking, and quiet.
Saw them in 1983 in Levittown 🎉. It was a blast 🎉❤🎉❤🎉.
The guitar sound alone was so much thicker and harder than the proto-punk acts that influenced them: MC5, Stooges, Dolls. I don't care what anyone says: the guitar sound that Johnny Ramone first put on tape is the true starting point of punk rock.
💯
Facts. This is the first punk music
Except FEAR
Agree with you 100%
@@christianlewis6252 Fear??? Fear formed 3 bloody years AFTER the Ramones. Fear formed AFTER the Damned, the Dead Boys, The Clash, the Sex Pistols so how can Fear be the initial spark igniting punk rock? Also, you do realize that Lee Ving was a blues and country musician who started Fear as a SATIRE of punk rock right? Do you know what a satire is? He formed Fear to make fun of punk rock and cash in on it's popularity. And as long as he can make cash from it he's kept it going.
Ramones jamais morrerá!
That' s very very loco, i can't believe, i feel so power when i listen to Ramones. Saludos desde Argentina 🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷, por siempre en nuestros corazones⛓️ 🤍⛓️
I'm from New Zealand fan for life RAMONES RULE
Love the Ramones.
Sounds awesome.
Good for being just demos.
Cheers!
That album cover... the Ramones in their natural habitat. :0)
It's a Bob Gruen shot! The back cover was Chris Steine.
Ese sonido, en ese momento, debió haberle volado el sombrero a más de uno! Revolucionario...
The Stooges, Mc5, Alice, NY Dolls, etc. eran el caldo de cultivo, pero esta banda además, era POP!
Ciertamente eran 'pop' y es una pena que la mayoría de la gente solo escuche un sonido monótono, aburrido y repetitivo. Ciertamente estaban influenciadas por esos grupos de chicas de principios de los 60. Su música es dura, sublime, ingeniosa, divertida, irreverente y, sobre todo, genial. Sus simples iconos
Al dueño del cbgb😂
Olvidando a The Ramones por un momento, es simplemente "oh-tan-hip" nombrar a esas otras bandas que simplemente fueron ignoradas fuera de sus propias pequeñas burbujas en ese momento. Sus discos fueron borrados tan pronto como se imprimieron por falta de ventas, así de populares eran entre el público en ese entonces. Si el punk nunca existiera, seguirían siendo solo notas a pie de página olvidadas en la música moderna en lugar de venerados "héroes de la revolución"
These recordings should have been the first album. They sound amazing
Friggin awesome!! Made my day !!
Ramonemania !...I f*ckin' love these guys.
they were playing in this style in 1974, same with the Saints
Desde chile , gracias ramones por darnos tanto rock " and roll ", punks no mueren
So glad I picked this up last weekend.
From where please ?
@@MultiScone Record Store Day in Clearwater FL
Gracias por subirlo Para todos Los que no pudieron.comprar El disco de vinyl commemorativo.del dia del disco.Rhino se pulio.editando esta Joya Demo 😊❤
This is amongst the best of course!
These are demos from 50 years ago, why are people complaining?
Cause they’re picky fucks
@@dipadyck
Band name: The Picky Fucks
A raw cool direct Ramones blast, it's good since their debut thanks Rockers
Sounds slower,but more raw then the album. I love it
Que grande los Ramones y Estela de Carlotto en el subte
Dee Dee's voice sounds great on 53rd and 3rd
Joey's voice sounds even better on the demos.
I agree
Great demos
Punk legends!!!
One of the urban classics of ALL times. 🎉
today your love ,tomorrow the world , forever Ramones...
RAW&ROCK, My very favouriteBand of the 70's & 80's! T.,East Germany!
Thank you so much. Gabba Gabba hey
Que bien esto! Una reliquia
que recuerdos copado al escuchar de nuevo este casete ,forever ramonero!!!
Your picture is cute! I love it
Just love it! The pregnancy days of Punk, and a cover photo is perfect, plastic bag, subway, ordinary people.
Saw them in '80 or '81 in Brussels AB with The Dickies as support act : ..1234.. the roof went Off
Bad choice of support
Awesome. Thanks! Greetings from Canada 🇨🇦
Music forever
superb, thanks for sharing!
shatchoo corny a$$
These songs take me instantly to that space. So good that they shouldn't exist. You chew?
The un cropped pic looks brilliant!
This is a different frame than the better known shot, which was taken more directly in front of them.
Me emocioné hasta las lagrimas.
Me emociono com você, ramones sempre
This sounds GREAT! Awesome songs!
The instruments sound much better than the final record. Specially the drums.
I agree
Yea-- there is an old TapeOp interview of Tommy Ramone complaining about the drum sound on the final record-- basically they gated everything and killed the natural drum sound
all the best tracks on here
26 minutes? Is this the Ramones entire catalog? Lol. Pure rock and roll from the first note. They did however slightly resemble their NYC contemporaries here. But only just.
Thank you so much for sharing this
Cheers from Argentina Ramone
Great álbum!!!!!
Ramones eternamente em nossos corações ❤❤❤❤❤
Pure gold
It's British Invasion meets the New York Dolls. It's so great to hear the songs at this point in their evolution.
I can't be and I don't wanna be learned are bangers. I bought this record the day it came out
I'm actually here because I saw your IG post and thought "huh idk if i heard those ramones sessions"
@@Iliekchoocolatye By far the best songs I've ever heard from them besides the Pleasant Dreams album!
To this day, I have no idea what the lyrics are to most of these songs. These demos are definitely easier to understand than the record.
Crucial album for 1975!!! Even tho Iggy and Stooges was late 60’s! Love this so raw …. Thanks
cuz the stooges and the ramones were so similar 'n stuff
They're both so great, I'm pissed at the moment
@@markjeffery1697 weird doesn't = punk
Literally play this demo in x1.25-2 and it sounds like it’s evolving into 80s hardcore. Mind blowing how palatable punk was and STILL is to this day.
Analogue is all that's going forward!
The original misfits demos are fucking bad ass also
Long-live the Ramones
Wicked.takes me back.got no words to describe .memeris.
Obrigada, por essa obra de arte do punk Rock!
00:00 Loudmouth
02:14 53rd ' 3rd
04:36 I wanna be your boyfriend
06:18 I don't care
08:10 Texas chainaw massacre
10:07 You should have never opened that door
11:48 I can't be
13:44 Now i wanna sniff some glue
15:24 I don' wanna be tamed
16:27 What's your game?
19:19 You're gonna kill that girl
22:04 I don't wanna walk around with you
23:55 Today your love, tomorrow the world
Thanks, this is now a go-to for booze night
Thank you for taking the time to post this
You rock thanks for putting up the stamps!
Ramones eagle tattoo on my arm for ever ! 🦅
Sick!
this isn't "proto punk". This is the real thing
exactly. this is where it all began. i've heard songs before the Ramones that could be considered punk (stooges, mc5, etc), but in terms of where the blueprint lies, this is it.