Spider-Man was legal in Revenge of Shinobi as Sega held a licence for the character at the time. Also it's an excellent game the music is done by Yuzo Koshiro too. Maybe worth playing again.
Toejam and Earl should ABSOLUTELY be in the Top 5 1991, Split Scren Co Op, Rogue Like. Low replay value? The game has UNLIMITED replay value. Its a freeking masterpiece.
they dont think so, they find it tedious and the randomizer feature being a bigger exercise in tedium, honestly i think these guys have been spoiled by modern innovation too much.
Some classics really get shredded here. I think this is the first time I've heard that Revenge of Shinobi, one of my favorites of the generation, was a horrible game.
And Streets of Rage 2 doesn't make the top ten but Mega Man: The Wily Wars which is generally agreed to be a disappointing remake of the NES originals is way the fuck up there at #6 just because it's Mega Man. It couldn't be any more obvious this guy doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about and that he's a Nintendo fanboy who has never touched a goddamn Mega Drive in his life before making this video and gave each game maybe 3 minutes of dicking around before forming a half baked opinion on them because there's deadlines to meet after all. Seriously this is a British gaming channel and they couldn't find someone who knows anything about the Mega Drive? Shameful and embarrassing.
Right off the bat I knew I wasn’t going to agree with this list as he put Sonic Spinball second last. I frickin love this game. The game is fantastic and Sonic as a pinball is a perfect spinoff title. I get that not everyone loves it, but c’mon!
It's insanely overly frustrating and difficult, but fighting a Robotnik Scorpion to some dank beats is somehow satisfying. The intro almost makes it seem like the story is more interesting than any other Sonics.
Sonic Spinball is lot of fun.. I beat it a couple years ago on my modded wii with save states.. Lol.. Primarly used to save states on the last level when you gotta get all the way up there on the right....
Opinions are subjective... BUT Phantasy Star IV is still one of my favourite/best RPGs I've ever played and still beat it once in a while. The story is actually really good and the art style holds up, cut scenes are gorgeous and it has genuinely impactful moments. Finally I'll say the music is REALLY good from top to bottom.
Yeah, but suddenly and abruptly killing a party member permanently wouldn't be cool until years later when it was a much more boring party member and much worse polygonal graphics...
@Tom Ffrench don't get me wrong the snes had far better selection of quality rpg games over the genesis. It's not even a debate but it had a few gems and phantasy star IV was at the top of the list in my opinion.
I really like this channel & the videos on here but much of the time this guy doesn't know what he's talking about.. He said there was one side quest in the game.. There was a hunters guild with multiple side quests.. Smh..
Eternal Champions was one of my favourite games on the system back when I was a teen. The characters were great, the fighting fun, and it had a decent story (that the Mega CD version expanded on).
I love this game as well and the 2 player elimination mode was so much fun. though they were playing it with three button controllers that does not do it any favors
I like TripleJump but I really think they aren't the target audience for the Genesis Mini. How Phantasy Star IV got a lower rank than Virtua Fighter 2 Genesis speaks for itself. "Treasure can do no wrong." *literally says Light Crusader is a bad game minutes ago* And, Monster World IV also came out on the Xbox 360 in the West as well and there is a Streets of Rage 4 coming. Yup, not the target audience.
Primetime Eric Prime agrees...virtual fighter 2 is the worst game on the western mini easily, revenge of shinobi very low, toe jam and earl even lower...I stopped watching after those.
I honestly don’t get why Virtua Fighter wasn’t at the very bottom. The game is basically unplayable on Genesis. Even the likes of Kid Kamelion and Alex Kidd are at least perfectly playable irreguardless of how how one feels about them smh
VF2 for the Mega Drive is not that bad. I'm glad they chose to do something completely different instead of making a futile attempt to do a straight port. As a fighting game fan, I find it average.
You seriously ranked _Phantasy Star IV_ lower than _Alex Kidd, Virtua Fighter 2,_ and this barebones version of _Tetris_ that we all got. Even as someone who didn't grow up with this game, this is laughable. "Only twenty hours" of content? Not only are you prioritizing quantity over quality, but you're also harshly judging the game by modern standards. There were hardly any JRPGs in that era that were forty hours or more. "Exactly one" sidequest, huh? Well, fuck all of those Hunter's Guild missions that you can take, because those apparently don't count. I'll give you that the plot isn't especially stellar, but what *is* there is well-paced, with most every story beat being relevant to the overarching narrative. The only other game of the era that I can think of that matches its tightness is _Chrono Trigger,_ and that's a pretty high bar. This isn't even factoring in the multiple references to the previous games, of which you need to know precisely none of to enjoy the game. If you're playing the game in a bubble, you can just think, "Oh hey, that's some nice lore;" if you're familiar with the series as a whole, then it serves as a very nice shout out that fits in with the game being a celebration and the climax of the original series. And this isn't even talking about all of the good points that you ignored: the fantastic graphics; the numerous animations, which were quite the rarity even in late-era SNES games; the fact that the sound designers actually knew how to use the Mega Drive's sound card; the magic systems, which even include team attacks (not as good as _Chrono Trigger_ due to the way they're implemented, but still solid for what they are); the macro function… Hell, I'm sure there are more that I'm neglecting to mention. But hey, this is still ultimately your opinion, even if I feel that multiple aspects of it are suspect and flat-out incorrect. Do what you will.
I fully disagree as well they don’t have a clue what they are on about it’s like they just looked at the list of games. And googled the names to find info on them
12:50 the Spiderman cameo was actually licenced at one point on the original hardware due to them having the rights for him at that time (they even added the copyright info for him in the boot credit screen and changed the sprites to be _more_ like the character), but in all rereleases of the game, the IP was lost and they had to make the sprites and such more like a parody of Spiderman
Yeah, you're correct. But I doubt the creators were even old enough/born yet when this game got released. So don't blame them for being ignorant about that fact.
I absolutely do not agree with the majority of this list. I love these longer lists from you guys, but I miss the ones actually written by Peter and Ben. Still enjoyed this immensely though!
I don’t understand why people like you have to make it known that you disagree. Of course you’re going to disagree, this isn’t an objective fact list. It’s his opinion, almost everyone’s list will be different. Not everyone enjoys the same video games, you dunce.
TBF, I think it should be titled "Every game on Sega Mini, ranked from worst to best". I thought the same thing, and it didn't help Spinball was first.
You got the sentiment towards alex the kid wrong - one of the Alez Kidd games (Alex the Kid in Miracle World) was a fun game, and it was the built-in game for MSXII, so about 20 million people have strong nostalgic feelings towards it.
Me too! It showed the world how much better the Genesis was comparing to whatever was out there at the time of launch. I still play it today, more than 30 years later.
There's a MegaMan Maker project where people make an engine and level maker for MegaMan. People publish and play levels. I'm proud to say my youngest son absolutely loves MegaMan games.
I'm guessing somebody else has already made this comment but, aren't you aware that by changing the language of the medga drive mini to Japanese, Meanbean Machine becomes Puyo Puyo?
Since when does Phantasy Star IV have one sidequest? Did you miss the, oh, entire list of them in the Hunters’ Guild? And the story’s still pretty good. Definitely structured and detailed for its day, and while it’s not exactly as fleshed out as your average contemporary RPG, and a remake would no doubt get meatier in a hypothetical modern remake, it’s aged far better than many of its contemporaries. As for the translation, I lived through the 90s era of not caring, and PSIV aas much better translated than many games of that day-even better than other games in its own series. It even bothers to rationalize a translation flub in the previous games. I certainly don’t mean to come off as a fangirl, but it demonstrably doesn’t have the flaws you say it does, or at least not to the extent you say it does.
These are the same people who laughed off some quality NES games on a NES knock-off console. They literally can't tell the difference between Action 52 and Little Nemo. They also generally get one or two obvious things wrong per list. Like when they forgot how many buttons the GBA has.
I loved it, I think it held up against the squaresoft SNES rpg's really well, a geand scope with an epic pacing, and memorable characters. Probably my personal favourite rpg from the 16 bit era.
Landstalker deserves so much higher. The controls are weird but the game eases you in so gently that by the time you have to do the really tricky jumps the review complains about you should have little trouble. And complaining about the censorship is weird considering it amounts to one 30 second scene being cut. The combat isn't the best but if anything it's too forgiving.
I am the one person on the Earth who loves Altered Beast! ^^ Probably one of the best bland mediocre games of that time. :D Still very playable, despite being short and so formulaic. And I gotta say, I don't agree at all with the order of the list! Very entertaining nonetheless ^^
@@chazdejesus2960 it was my first Mega Drive game, along with Moonwalker. So many memories... :D But to be fair, it's a very outdated game, there's games from that time that aged better. It's still good popcorn fun, though ^^
I absolutely LOVE Kid Chameleon, and I'm upset that it didn't make it higher. It is not only one of my favorite platformers on the Genesis but one of my favorite platformers of all time. I've had it in emulation form on just about every computer I've ever had, and in fact, have it on my mobile phone right now! The masks let you do far more than just shoot projectiles. One let you climb up a wall, turn into a tank, fly like a tornado, turn into a fly and fly, and (i believe) stick to things, shoot sound waves, and so many other things. The moving, wall of death, levels were hard as hell, the backgrounds and diverse levels were gorgeous, and it all still holds up fairly well today. This sounds like you guys simply played the first couple of levels and just gave up on it. Because the farther you go the better it gets. The ONLY thing I really ever had a problem with was that with 100 levels it didn't have a save mechanism. Not even a code to put in. So, if you died... and you would die... you had to start all over again. I've never beaten it to this day. I can't get past the windy city level.
One of the best things about this channel is that you folks pay attention to a games sound, so many others do not. I think it's a very important part of a game that is so often ignored.
I can forgive Shining Force being so low on the list (even though the Camelot-era games are my favourites of all time), but I can't forgive the awful new 'Shining' games being referred to as good news for fans of the series! I do love these really long form lists tho - awesome job! :)
It was really nice that the only thing wrong with my number one game, “Comix Zone” was that they didn’t make more of them! At least it makes it that much cooooooooler 🥴 that Sketch Turner was my pony tail hero 🦸♂️
Revenge of Shinobi at 54! Smh, you’ve got to be kidding me. Earthworm Jim in the 40s: BS. It feels like anyone at triple jump old enough to have played these games when they came out must have had Super Nintendo’s. Absolutely appalling.
Sword of Vermilion got pretty good reviews at the time of its release in Magazines. Very good game in my opinion and a good alternative to Phantasy Star II.
Not gonna lie, I love Shining Force. Me and some buddies used to bunk off college, partake of the devils leaf and play Shining Force for hours on end. I'm not saying you're wrong having it so low down, just an observation of how rose tinted our nostalgia glasses can be.
No they're were wrong. Also a lot of entries would have been higher, if they actually played the games when they originally got released. I suspect they were born after the Megadrive/Genesis craze...
Seriously? There is nobody here to break a spear in the defence of Altered Beasts? I only played the arcade game but it was awesome, very interesting fantasy setting for a video game.
I always like Altered Beast ancient Greek aesthetics. At the time I remembered that I thought it was cool the controls had a dedicated buttons for punching and kicking. While I don't the game is great, I don't want to live in a world where Altered Beast isn't on the Sega Genesis Mini. If you ever want to see a good video game review of Altered Beast check out "Peter Reviews" on Mr Baffacake's channel.
You can play Puyo Puyo here in the west as well !! All you have to do is change the language to Japanese in the settings menu of the SEGA GENESIS Mini. Do that will make ALL games on the mini turn into the Japanese version !!
I think you were a little harsh on Vectorman since I'd say it's still a fun game to play. But I do agree it's practically criminal that Alien Storm, MUSHA and Sonic 3 & Knuckles are either foreign exclusives or missing entirely. Those are three of my favorites
Thank you for introducing me to Yu Yu Hakusho Makyou Toitsusen. I'm a long time fan of the show and yet I did not know about this game (along with most of these unlocalized games), what a treat!
Monster World IV was also released on the 360 as part of the SVC Monster World Collection and on PS3 at the same time it was was released on the Wii's VC..
yeah after they mentioned "Eternal Champions" I knew this was gonna be a shitty list. I also knew, they just google the names, because it was quite clear they never played the originals. Hell I even doubt they're old enough to even play some of the games they mention, hell even remember the console.
OK, I almost stopped watching after they mentioned "Eternal Champions". smh. And yet, it's highly ranked on so many "hidden gems" lists. Also I highly doubt you two actually played this when it got released. Otherwise you would talk and think differently. Actually I preffered this game over Street Fighter 2. Also a lot of other entries you mentioned I merely could roll my eyes.
Madou Monogatari is only the remake of the first PC98 game, 1. 2 and 3 were remade for the Game Gear and that was it, it's primarily a Japanese PC series. Pretty good game, with a few different endings, depending on the number of points you gather. Lord Monarch has a fun story mode, also, I quite liked it - it's funny and pleasant to play through, not 'too' hard either.
To answer your question Peter, Sonic 2 Edit: Have to say I'm a bit annoyed about how low Toejam & Earl is on the list, although I only ever owned the second one and I was obsessed with it. So for all I know the first blew Donkey's Kong.
SEGA Channel? "Crap"?? i cant believe how some of the BEST games on the Genesis ended up on the low end of this list, yet the more generic games ended up on top. Streets of Rage 2 at 10-15th place?? you're taking the literal piss with this list and while i kept my keys of my keyboard unclacked for most of this video, these two segments are the straw that broke the camel's back, this is a horrid list and for the most part i dont get how you guys personally scored each of these games, cause their review scores seemingly had nothing to do with this list and that is an utter shame. and for the record i LOVE Light Crusader, you MUPPET!
It's a small thing, but on the style of Comix Zone, I would say, Viewtiful Joe in a way was inspired by it at least with some it's art style and how the game plays out. Would be interested to know if the makers of Joe were inspired by Comix Zone at all for real or if I'm just grasping at straws.. but on the surface it does seem like it.
Most of the video is "It's not a bad game but ***destroying the game***", at some point you should just name your videos "Here is a list of things somewhat ranked that we hate and here are the reasons why".
you are absolutely funny and I enjoyed watching your video. But, if I have to seriously look at the content, finding Virtua Fighter 2 head of Phantasy Star 4, Light Crusader and Eternal Champions makes no sense at all.
I am totally an apologetic fan of TJE. It was big dumb coop fun. A few tweaks and the randomly generated levels and exploration coupled with silliness and soundtrack can really work.. oh and you can make your own beats. Wheeeeeee!
There is technically a Dragon Slayer game releasing in the West this month. Trails of Cold Steel 3 is a subseries within a subseries within the Dragon Slayer series although Falcom doesn't refer to it as Dragon Slayer. The full title of the upcoming game should be Dragon Slayer 6: Legend of Heroes 13: Trails of Cold Steel 3 which not merely rolls from the tongue but rather stampedes over the edge of the tongue.
Garbage vid. Alex Kidd over Phantasy Star 4? Really? Also, you showed the wrong game videos for several games like footage of Super Ghouls and Ghosts instead of the genesis version which are completely different games. Pretty bad vid overall.
I'm looking to get this and a SNES. I'm not a gamer these days but I've fond memories of owning those two consoles when I was a kid. Sad to see Altered Beast being brutalised here, I remember loving it. It'll be interesting to see what it's like now.
I wish someone takes the concept and makes a new game with it. Being a man (or woman) that can get orbs to change into various mythical creatures and fighting through ancient and strange environments.
What would you have put at number one? What other enormous ranked lists would you like to see from us? Let us know!
Every Star Wars Game, Peter!
Every game ever made ever
@Windy Du bist gross Peter
Stick to your bread and butter: games made *after* 2000.
Spider-Man was legal in Revenge of Shinobi as Sega held a licence for the character at the time. Also it's an excellent game the music is done by Yuzo Koshiro too. Maybe worth playing again.
ToeJam and Earl let you choose between randomized and set locations. It gives you the option on the title screen.
I was confused by too
@Joe Baller maybe some of them
Hello you
@QUAD_RETURNS yeah. He’s the worst isn’t he.
@@iwanttocomplain Lol why
You should be jailed for your placement of Phantasy Star 4.
veggieh8r plus it has loads of side quests
Rough punishment, but it fits the crime.
PS4 is one of 3 Mega Drive games I still own and the only one with package and manuel
It's crap. 3 is much better.
@matt fahringer that may well be the case. But PS4 is sh*t.
Toejam and Earl should ABSOLUTELY be in the Top 5
1991, Split Scren Co Op, Rogue Like.
Low replay value?
The game has UNLIMITED replay value.
Its a freeking masterpiece.
they dont think so, they find it tedious and the randomizer feature being a bigger exercise in tedium, honestly i think these guys have been spoiled by modern innovation too much.
I doubt they play most of these games when they got released.
It sucks
@@Rountree1985 Not as much as That 70's Show.
@@kingboobs20 tell me you’re 16 without telling me how old you are
Some classics really get shredded here. I think this is the first time I've heard that Revenge of Shinobi, one of my favorites of the generation, was a horrible game.
agreed, while i DO like Shinobi 3 a hell of a lot more than Revenge, i sure dont think it's "horrible".
I know man and why did they put sonic 1 so high revenge of Shinobi is way better.
Contra hard corps on the genesis is also way better then sonic 1 so I'd strider.
And phantasy star IV
And Streets of Rage 2 doesn't make the top ten but Mega Man: The Wily Wars which is generally agreed to be a disappointing remake of the NES originals is way the fuck up there at #6 just because it's Mega Man.
It couldn't be any more obvious this guy doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about and that he's a Nintendo fanboy who has never touched a goddamn Mega Drive in his life before making this video and gave each game maybe 3 minutes of dicking around before forming a half baked opinion on them because there's deadlines to meet after all.
Seriously this is a British gaming channel and they couldn't find someone who knows anything about the Mega Drive? Shameful and embarrassing.
Nice list, but Phantasy Star IV deserves to be in the top 10 and Shining Force should be ranked higher too.
So does Wonderboy in Monster World - that was the first RPG-ish game I had as a kid and I still love it.
Alex Kidd over Phantasy Star IV guys? Love you but come on!
PS4 is criminally underrated all over :( It's my all time favorite JRPG and I hardly ever see it mentioned
Stop, don't act like either of those games were actually good.
Right off the bat I knew I wasn’t going to agree with this list as he put Sonic Spinball second last. I frickin love this game. The game is fantastic and Sonic as a pinball is a perfect spinoff title. I get that not everyone loves it, but c’mon!
It's insanely overly frustrating and difficult, but fighting a Robotnik Scorpion to some dank beats is somehow satisfying. The intro almost makes it seem like the story is more interesting than any other Sonics.
Sonic Spinball is lot of fun.. I beat it a couple years ago on my modded wii with save states.. Lol.. Primarly used to save states on the last level when you gotta get all the way up there on the right....
I keep trying it on switch but I have no idea where to go or what to do lol
Opinions are subjective... BUT Phantasy Star IV is still one of my favourite/best RPGs I've ever played and still beat it once in a while. The story is actually really good and the art style holds up, cut scenes are gorgeous and it has genuinely impactful moments. Finally I'll say the music is REALLY good from top to bottom.
Yeah, but suddenly and abruptly killing a party member permanently wouldn't be cool until years later when it was a much more boring party member and much worse polygonal graphics...
It’s criminal where Phantasy Star IV is placed on this list.
Same with Shining Force and Shining Force II
I quiet liked Altered Beasts. Why was it the worst West game?
Agreed and Like Zach said, Shining Force games.
Makes me question the tastes of this channel. I don't think I can take him seriously anymore.
I know right? It should have been last. What a shit game.
Toe Jam and Earl at 55....what? I loved that game.
they're so spoiled by modern gaming that they think it's tedious...
Game is very sui generis, not suited for everyone.
I like to play it randomly to spend some time and relax. And it does it with style.
It's a very love it or hate it type of game.. I never got into them but have friends who adore them
How the hell is Alex Kidd above Vectorman?
Edit: And the Revenge of Shinobi? What the hell is wrong with you?
Because he likes Alex Kidd more than vectorman. Simple fucking explain.
Because it's his fucking opinion.
@@fandangobrandango7864 His opinions are bad and he should feel bad.
I was done after I saw Phantasy Star IV (the game that forever changed my previously icy cold reception toward JRPGs) at #52.
Yeah idk what they were Smoking sonic 1 is top 10 and phantasy star IV isn't even top 50 wtf.
@matt alan exactly sonic 1 is the weakest of that era. I prefer sonic 3 or sonic cd.
Phantasy Star 4 is one of all time favorite games along with the original master system game..
@Tom Ffrench don't get me wrong the snes had far better selection of quality rpg games over the genesis. It's not even a debate but it had a few gems and phantasy star IV was at the top of the list in my opinion.
I really like this channel & the videos on here but much of the time this guy doesn't know what he's talking about.. He said there was one side quest in the game.. There was a hunters guild with multiple side quests.. Smh..
You don't like The Revenge of Shinobi? *Shocked*
I used to love it. But I've just gone off it largely, last time I gave it a go I couldn't be bothered to play past the first level.
@@Xegethra Agrreed did not take into account nestalgia for ow or how good it was overall. A top 5 megadrive game
Eternal Champions was one of my favourite games on the system back when I was a teen. The characters were great, the fighting fun, and it had a decent story (that the Mega CD version expanded on).
and i thought eternal champions came out before mortal kombat
I LOVED IT.
I got the UK comics and LOVED characters
Same here, I also suspect the writers weren't old enough to play it/or even born yet early nineties when it originally got released.
I love this game as well and the 2 player elimination mode was so much fun. though they were playing it with three button controllers that does not do it any favors
@@tteft Yeah; it really needs to be played on a six-button controller.
Gunstar Heros was my FAVORITE game on the Genesis. It just was so much fun and great to play with other people.
How is Vectorman not higher up? Its visually beautiful and outstanding.
I like TripleJump but I really think they aren't the target audience for the Genesis Mini. How Phantasy Star IV got a lower rank than Virtua Fighter 2 Genesis speaks for itself.
"Treasure can do no wrong."
*literally says Light Crusader is a bad game minutes ago*
And, Monster World IV also came out on the Xbox 360 in the West as well and there is a Streets of Rage 4 coming. Yup, not the target audience.
Primetime Eric Prime agrees...virtual fighter 2 is the worst game on the western mini easily, revenge of shinobi very low, toe jam and earl even lower...I stopped watching after those.
I honestly don’t get why Virtua Fighter wasn’t at the very bottom. The game is basically unplayable on Genesis. Even the likes of Kid Kamelion and Alex Kidd are at least perfectly playable irreguardless of how how one feels about them smh
were they even born when the mega drive/genesis was still in stores?
VF2 for the Mega Drive is not that bad. I'm glad they chose to do something completely different instead of making a futile attempt to do a straight port. As a fighting game fan, I find it average.
You seriously ranked _Phantasy Star IV_ lower than _Alex Kidd, Virtua Fighter 2,_ and this barebones version of _Tetris_ that we all got. Even as someone who didn't grow up with this game, this is laughable.
"Only twenty hours" of content? Not only are you prioritizing quantity over quality, but you're also harshly judging the game by modern standards. There were hardly any JRPGs in that era that were forty hours or more.
"Exactly one" sidequest, huh? Well, fuck all of those Hunter's Guild missions that you can take, because those apparently don't count.
I'll give you that the plot isn't especially stellar, but what *is* there is well-paced, with most every story beat being relevant to the overarching narrative. The only other game of the era that I can think of that matches its tightness is _Chrono Trigger,_ and that's a pretty high bar. This isn't even factoring in the multiple references to the previous games, of which you need to know precisely none of to enjoy the game. If you're playing the game in a bubble, you can just think, "Oh hey, that's some nice lore;" if you're familiar with the series as a whole, then it serves as a very nice shout out that fits in with the game being a celebration and the climax of the original series.
And this isn't even talking about all of the good points that you ignored: the fantastic graphics; the numerous animations, which were quite the rarity even in late-era SNES games; the fact that the sound designers actually knew how to use the Mega Drive's sound card; the magic systems, which even include team attacks (not as good as _Chrono Trigger_ due to the way they're implemented, but still solid for what they are); the macro function… Hell, I'm sure there are more that I'm neglecting to mention.
But hey, this is still ultimately your opinion, even if I feel that multiple aspects of it are suspect and flat-out incorrect. Do what you will.
I fully disagree as well they don’t have a clue what they are on about it’s like they just looked at the list of games. And googled the names to find info on them
Oh come on Alex Kidd isn't that bad, sure he's not as good as Mario but he was a big part of Sega's history and does deserve to be on the mini.
Ranking Columns better than Revenge of Shinobi hurts.
How was QuackShot not included on the mini. What a game that was.
Revenge of Shinobi was amazing
It still is!
12:50 the Spiderman cameo was actually licenced at one point on the original hardware due to them having the rights for him at that time (they even added the copyright info for him in the boot credit screen and changed the sprites to be _more_ like the character), but in all rereleases of the game, the IP was lost and they had to make the sprites and such more like a parody of Spiderman
Yeah, you're correct. But I doubt the creators were even old enough/born yet when this game got released. So don't blame them for being ignorant about that fact.
I absolutely do not agree with the majority of this list. I love these longer lists from you guys, but I miss the ones actually written by Peter and Ben. Still enjoyed this immensely though!
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I don’t understand why people like you have to make it known that you disagree. Of course you’re going to disagree, this isn’t an objective fact list. It’s his opinion, almost everyone’s list will be different. Not everyone enjoys the same video games, you dunce.
i had to read the title twice
"The Mega Drive had mini games? Oh, he's talking about the Mega Drive Mini...
I'm such an idiot
TBF, I think it should be titled "Every game on Sega Mini, ranked from worst to best". I thought the same thing, and it didn't help Spinball was first.
You got the sentiment towards alex the kid wrong - one of the Alez Kidd games (Alex the Kid in Miracle World) was a fun game, and it was the built-in game for MSXII, so about 20 million people have strong nostalgic feelings towards it.
The Master System 2 not the MSX2.
meh, I disagree with a lot of this.
That’s the point of opinions. Most people have different ones.
Cry for love
I still wish Shining Force II was released over the original. It’s so much better
Note: I’m in the West, it’s not on my mini.
Agreed as it's such an awesome game! Was disappointed with how the ending played out though tbh
Altered Beast is one of my favorite games of all time I still have my original cartridge
Me too! It showed the world how much better the Genesis was comparing to whatever was out there at the time of launch. I still play it today, more than 30 years later.
What you put above it?
Apparently, I am not in my right mind as I would put light crusader at top 20
There's a MegaMan Maker project where people make an engine and level maker for MegaMan. People publish and play levels. I'm proud to say my youngest son absolutely loves MegaMan games.
I'm glad to see a fellow Mega Man Maker player.
Vectorman was a masterpiece.
was
@@calmarsh9363 Sorry. It still mostly is.
@@Nathan-rb3qp that doesn't make sense, something can't be mostly a masterpiece. It either is or isn't.
@@calmarsh9363 I worded it wrong in the first place by accident.
@@Nathan-rb3qp I'm aware
Holy shmuk, Triple Jump quality content as fudge! Want more! Peter: every Star Wars Game!
I'm guessing somebody else has already made this comment but, aren't you aware that by changing the language of the medga drive mini to Japanese, Meanbean Machine becomes Puyo Puyo?
Since when does Phantasy Star IV have one sidequest? Did you miss the, oh, entire list of them in the Hunters’ Guild? And the story’s still pretty good. Definitely structured and detailed for its day, and while it’s not exactly as fleshed out as your average contemporary RPG, and a remake would no doubt get meatier in a hypothetical modern remake, it’s aged far better than many of its contemporaries. As for the translation, I lived through the 90s era of not caring, and PSIV aas much better translated than many games of that day-even better than other games in its own series. It even bothers to rationalize a translation flub in the previous games. I certainly don’t mean to come off as a fangirl, but it demonstrably doesn’t have the flaws you say it does, or at least not to the extent you say it does.
These are the same people who laughed off some quality NES games on a NES knock-off console. They literally can't tell the difference between Action 52 and Little Nemo.
They also generally get one or two obvious things wrong per list. Like when they forgot how many buttons the GBA has.
@@juststatedtheobvious9633 The research on these videos is so piss poor it doesn't even reach WatchMojo quality.
I loved it, I think it held up against the squaresoft SNES rpg's really well, a geand scope with an epic pacing, and memorable characters. Probably my personal favourite rpg from the 16 bit era.
I love these long lists but I do think they’d be more fun if Ben and Peter did them together. Keep up the good work boys! :)
Streets of Rage not in the top 10? Heresy
Landstalker deserves so much higher. The controls are weird but the game eases you in so gently that by the time you have to do the really tricky jumps the review complains about you should have little trouble. And complaining about the censorship is weird considering it amounts to one 30 second scene being cut. The combat isn't the best but if anything it's too forgiving.
Landstalker is a masterpiece in my opinion.
What are you talking about? Columns is ALWAYS the first thing I look for when I see a Mega Drive
I just posted a comment saying I like Columns. It's a good game.
@@jaysmith2858 in my humble opinion Columns is the 2nd best puzzle game next to Puzzle Bobble.
@@WhereThereDude That's also a good game. In my opinion Tetris is still 'The daddy' of puzzle games.
Honestly while the Mega Drive port of Virtua Fighter 2 isn’t that good, it’s super fascinating to me and I love the way the game looks.
I really enjoy these long lists. You guys make them so worth watching regardless of the topic. Can't wait to see more of these lists!
Thank you for this video. Because of it I'm going to buy all 3 versions of the Sega Mega Drive Mini. Again thank you TripleJump. You're the best.
I am the one person on the Earth who loves Altered Beast! ^^ Probably one of the best bland mediocre games of that time. :D Still very playable, despite being short and so formulaic.
And I gotta say, I don't agree at all with the order of the list! Very entertaining nonetheless ^^
Altered beast was amazing
@@chazdejesus2960 it was my first Mega Drive game, along with Moonwalker. So many memories... :D But to be fair, it's a very outdated game, there's games from that time that aged better. It's still good popcorn fun, though ^^
Have to agree, had it on the 360 collection and found it pretty good!
while not a good game it goes in to the I have 15 minutes to kill category of games.
@@topdamagewizard Dude you nailed it.
Well WE got Streets Of Rage 4, wonders never cease. Here' s to a return of Strider.
I absolutely LOVE Kid Chameleon, and I'm upset that it didn't make it higher. It is not only one of my favorite platformers on the Genesis but one of my favorite platformers of all time. I've had it in emulation form on just about every computer I've ever had, and in fact, have it on my mobile phone right now! The masks let you do far more than just shoot projectiles. One let you climb up a wall, turn into a tank, fly like a tornado, turn into a fly and fly, and (i believe) stick to things, shoot sound waves, and so many other things. The moving, wall of death, levels were hard as hell, the backgrounds and diverse levels were gorgeous, and it all still holds up fairly well today.
This sounds like you guys simply played the first couple of levels and just gave up on it. Because the farther you go the better it gets. The ONLY thing I really ever had a problem with was that with 100 levels it didn't have a save mechanism. Not even a code to put in. So, if you died... and you would die... you had to start all over again. I've never beaten it to this day. I can't get past the windy city level.
I'm personally not a fan of it but I know people who played it back in the day and really love it so you're not alone.
"Gunstar Heroes is Treasures greatest achievement"
*Ikaruga: Am i a joke to you*
20 minutes is enough of that game. Forever. Blue and red and nothing else as a colour scheme is super dull as this game is pretty darn repetitive.
@matt Hey. I play Toaplan games,
One of the best things about this channel is that you folks pay attention to a games sound, so many others do not. I think it's a very important part of a game that is so often ignored.
I can forgive Shining Force being so low on the list (even though the Camelot-era games are my favourites of all time), but I can't forgive the awful new 'Shining' games being referred to as good news for fans of the series! I do love these really long form lists tho - awesome job! :)
I've been collecting all the games complete in box for the Sega! so i am hyped for this video!
1:01:29 Sega Channel was NOT a dial-up service; the service was broadcasted by a local cable TV company.
I loved Strider! My friend had it on the SNES and we'd spend whole weekends trying to beat it, ugh the nostalgia
Can I also say, the background music, which is used in majority of the lists, is amazing!
Revenge of Shinobi was great.
It was really nice that the only thing wrong with my number one game, “Comix Zone” was that they didn’t make more of them! At least it makes it that much cooooooooler 🥴 that Sketch Turner was my pony tail hero 🦸♂️
I'd like more of them myself. Could you imagine how tightly controlled and spectacular it would be if the SoR4 people made a new one?
Revenge of Shinobi at 54! Smh, you’ve got to be kidding me. Earthworm Jim in the 40s: BS. It feels like anyone at triple jump old enough to have played these games when they came out must have had Super Nintendo’s. Absolutely appalling.
He opens with “the concept of a mini console is fantastic... done right * shows SNES classic *. Implication Genesis mini = shit.
Sword of Vermilion got pretty good reviews at the time of its release in Magazines. Very good game in my opinion and a good alternative to Phantasy Star II.
Toejam & Earl at 55 makes this list instantly irrelevant
Not gonna lie, I love Shining Force. Me and some buddies used to bunk off college, partake of the devils leaf and play Shining Force for hours on end. I'm not saying you're wrong having it so low down, just an observation of how rose tinted our nostalgia glasses can be.
No they're were wrong. Also a lot of entries would have been higher, if they actually played the games when they originally got released. I suspect they were born after the Megadrive/Genesis craze...
@@wh-wjsboka7847 Yeah they were, PS1 generation.
No he is definitely wrong, about damn near everything in fact.
Seriously? There is nobody here to break a spear in the defence of Altered Beasts? I only played the arcade game but it was awesome, very interesting fantasy setting for a video game.
I always like Altered Beast ancient Greek aesthetics. At the time I remembered that I thought it was cool the controls had a dedicated buttons for punching and kicking.
While I don't the game is great, I don't want to live in a world where Altered Beast isn't on the Sega Genesis Mini.
If you ever want to see a good video game review of Altered Beast check out "Peter Reviews" on Mr Baffacake's channel.
I feel like you’ve done “shocking” placement so we type and the video gets a push
Well played
I like this list a whole lot despite not agreeing with pretty much anything.
Shining force 2 is one of the best games ever
Love the big lists boys! Keep up the great work all around!!
Ohhhh boy your placement of Shining Force makes me want to call you more names...AND YOU SAY THE BROKEN GBA REMAKE IS BETTER????
I think there's a place in Hell for people speaking poorly of Revenge of Shinobi, which is one of the greatest action-patformer of the 16-bits era.
Sonic spinball was one of the hardest games I've ever played but I remember really loving it as a kid.
Yeah
Yo, make a list for the Sega Genesis Mini 2 now!
You can play Puyo Puyo here in the west as well !! All you have to do is change the language to Japanese in the settings menu of the SEGA GENESIS Mini. Do that will make ALL games on the mini turn into the Japanese version !!
Just going to say that you saved me a job
Sounds like it was written by someone who wasn't old enough to have a Megadrive in 1989.
Or a SNES fanboy, who only played less then ten games on the Genesis
The lack of Shining Force II on the Western release was one of my primary deciders against getting one. Really enjoyed that series.
Shinobi and Phantasy star so low on the list? like worse than columns and wrestleball? worse than fucking tetris? this must be a joke.
I think you were a little harsh on Vectorman since I'd say it's still a fun game to play. But I do agree it's practically criminal that Alien Storm, MUSHA and Sonic 3 & Knuckles are either foreign exclusives or missing entirely. Those are three of my favorites
Thank you for introducing me to Yu Yu Hakusho Makyou Toitsusen. I'm a long time fan of the show and yet I did not know about this game (along with most of these unlocalized games), what a treat!
Did you seriously put Wrestleball, whatever that is, above Vectorman, ToeJam and Earl, and Phantasy Star IV????
Monster World IV was also released on the 360 as part of the SVC Monster World Collection and on PS3 at the same time it was was released on the Wii's VC..
this list is absurd, Phantasy Star 4 is a top 3 genesis game just behind Comix Zone and Mutant League Football
I agree, putting Phantasy Star 4 so far down on the list instantly kills the credibility of the entire list :\
Not to mention he threw Altered Beast under the bus within the first four games..? Like.. what?
yeah after they mentioned "Eternal Champions" I knew this was gonna be a shitty list. I also knew, they just google the names, because it was quite clear they never played the originals. Hell I even doubt they're old enough to even play some of the games they mention, hell even remember the console.
OK, I almost stopped watching after they mentioned "Eternal Champions". smh.
And yet, it's highly ranked on so many "hidden gems" lists. Also I highly doubt you two actually played this when it got released.
Otherwise you would talk and think differently. Actually I preffered this game over Street Fighter 2.
Also a lot of other entries you mentioned I merely could roll my eyes.
Really liked when he said "Oh the characters, the setting and the fatalities are good. But the game is bad." lol wut?
Madou Monogatari is only the remake of the first PC98 game, 1. 2 and 3 were remade for the Game Gear and that was it, it's primarily a Japanese PC series. Pretty good game, with a few different endings, depending on the number of points you gather. Lord Monarch has a fun story mode, also, I quite liked it - it's funny and pleasant to play through, not 'too' hard either.
To answer your question Peter, Sonic 2
Edit: Have to say I'm a bit annoyed about how low Toejam & Earl is on the list, although I only ever owned the second one and I was obsessed with it. So for all I know the first blew Donkey's Kong.
SEGA Channel? "Crap"?? i cant believe how some of the BEST games on the Genesis ended up on the low end of this list, yet the more generic games ended up on top.
Streets of Rage 2 at 10-15th place?? you're taking the literal piss with this list and while i kept my keys of my keyboard unclacked for most of this video, these two segments are the straw that broke the camel's back, this is a horrid list and for the most part i dont get how you guys personally scored each of these games, cause their review scores seemingly had nothing to do with this list and that is an utter shame.
and for the record i LOVE Light Crusader, you MUPPET!
It's a small thing, but on the style of Comix Zone, I would say, Viewtiful Joe in a way was inspired by it at least with some it's art style and how the game plays out. Would be interested to know if the makers of Joe were inspired by Comix Zone at all for real or if I'm just grasping at straws.. but on the surface it does seem like it.
Good point
Ehh partway through I really started to disagree with your list.
*"SLAP-FIGHT"* sounds more akin to a game *a group of friends play whilst at a Convention,* rather than an actual name of a *Shoot-Em-Up!!*
Agreed
Looks like you guys have put a lot of time and effort into this. Good list well done!
A lot of time and effort into having every shit take possible.
Am i the only one who thinks Vectorman should have been placed higher?
Nah, I agree with you. It looks so beautiful in the visual aspect of it. It might have bad controls, but I never played it before.
At first I thought this was going to include things like the sonic special stages hence “every sega genesis mini game ranked”
Most of the video is "It's not a bad game but ***destroying the game***", at some point you should just name your videos "Here is a list of things somewhat ranked that we hate and here are the reasons why".
Wikipedia disagrees with you about Sword of Vermillion
you are absolutely funny and I enjoyed watching your video. But, if I have to seriously look at the content, finding Virtua Fighter 2 head of Phantasy Star 4, Light Crusader and Eternal Champions makes no sense at all.
Vector man 2 was sick
8:42 RE: *"ETERNAL CHAMPIONS"*
- WOAH! WAIT A MINUTE!!✋ is that *_..."Inspector Gadget"????????????????_*
*MIND =* 💥
I am totally an apologetic fan of TJE. It was big dumb coop fun. A few tweaks and the randomly generated levels and exploration coupled with silliness and soundtrack can really work.. oh and you can make your own beats. Wheeeeeee!
I bet that it’ll be fun when you review the SEGA Mega Drive II!
(And yes, there’s 2 versions, one for Japan, the other for America and PAL regions)
There is technically a Dragon Slayer game releasing in the West this month. Trails of Cold Steel 3 is a subseries within a subseries within the Dragon Slayer series although Falcom doesn't refer to it as Dragon Slayer. The full title of the upcoming game should be Dragon Slayer 6: Legend of Heroes 13: Trails of Cold Steel 3 which not merely rolls from the tongue but rather stampedes over the edge of the tongue.
Garbage vid. Alex Kidd over Phantasy Star 4? Really? Also, you showed the wrong game videos for several games like footage of Super Ghouls and Ghosts instead of the genesis version which are completely different games. Pretty bad vid overall.
It's criminal that you didn't once mention the incredible soundtrack on display in Thunder Force III
I'm looking to get this and a SNES. I'm not a gamer these days but I've fond memories of owning those two consoles when I was a kid. Sad to see Altered Beast being brutalised here, I remember loving it. It'll be interesting to see what it's like now.
Anyone else think they were listening to the last podcast on the left for a second during altered beast?
I like Altered Beast! Bit harsh there Peter...
I wish someone takes the concept and makes a new game with it. Being a man (or woman) that can get orbs to change into various mythical creatures and fighting through ancient and strange environments.
@@AlmightyPolarBear Yeah, the concept is ridiculous and I love it and I want more of it. Keep it as a side scroller though!!