Gwent was so generous with resources, I am just glad it held on as long as it did. I am also enjoying snap but with 1 card being released a week it means you can never actually catch up so you will always have a carrot dangled in front of you. I really hope they refine their model in the future. Also top tier graph, I know that must have taken a lot of time.
yeah im at cl 3560 and have all pool 3 cards the difference of card aquisition between the beginning and now is honestly very predatory. The only way to feel progression is to spend money to obtain quadruple the amount of credits you needed to even have a chance of getting a single card a day after cl 1000. Massive respect for the time you took to make this video. This is spot on. Sadly the game is so much fun XD
I am a casual player that just hit pool 3. Honestly I already have so much options to play different decks that I don't mind not unlocking new cards, I have several already that I am not using :D
I like snap but the onboarding is insidious. Feeding you constant unlocks and easy bot wins to hook you, stringing you out at CL500 where you are dropped into the Wild West against beta players will full collections, giving you hope again with the token shop at CL 1000 then starving you for collectors tokens after that so your mind wanders far past the reasonable season pass to the kraken food bundles just so you can keep the dopamine hits coming. Lol. Don’t buy those variants …even sexy white queen…save that gold for a bundle with collector tokens.
I loved watching you in tournaments back in the early days of Gwent. I am so glad that you are making some Marvel Snap content. I think Snap has a Lot of potential!
I love the gameplay of Marvel Snap but I will never give into these predatory prices, the only thing I'll pay for is the Battle Pass (doesn't seem like a lot per month). I'll never understand the mentality that you need everything all at once. I'll just keep playing and when I unlock something I unlock it, until then I'll just use the cards I have and do the best I can with them. Also, I can't believe how much gold costs and the transaction of gold to card variants, essentially paying $14-$28 CAD for a variant of a card you don't physically own is insane to me.
The amount of time needed to go from pool 2 complete to pool 3 complete is ridiculously long. After completing pool 2 I have so far spent over $250 and I'm only at 1707 collection level. And yes I already know that completing missions and refreshing missions is one of the best ways to spend your gold and yes I bought the two most recent battle passes (Black Panther and Silver Surfer). I believe you don't become pool 3 complete until you're nearly at 3000 collection level. So I've spent well over $200 and it barely put me above the half-way mark to completing my pool 3 collection. I think that's insane. Fun game but card acquisition needs to be improved in my opinion.
I think the most worrying thing about Snap (that I'm surprised the EU didn't pick up on) is the gambling aspect. The game uses loot boxes and gambling mechanics to addict players. I personally am fine with expensive prices, that is upfront and the value of cards is subjective. But EA was fined heavily for loot boxes and I fail to see how this is any different in Snap. There is a small percentage change of opening rare cards in the loot boxes, but then again... you might just get a title lol so you keep playing and spending credits hoping that you get lucky and get the cards you want. This is far more dangerous and predatory than a season pass.
I found it no more evil than hearthstone - hearthstone has loot boxes which is worse, but you can craft any card with dust which it's better, overall I'd say it's equally not evil. Both are less evil than 90% of the mobile games.
It's fine tbh. I'm not a hardcore gamer and I'm not that impatient that I'd whine just because I can't get the cards I want as fast as games like Gwent/LoR. Making do with what I have was a little bit fun as I progressed through Series 3. I actually only spent money after I finished Series 3, I thought that the game has given me enough fun to make me spend a little.
I understand the battle pass needs a card to be the face of each season. But that is pretty "pay-to-win" especially when the card is crucial for a deck and there is no guaranteed way to get that card later.
I agree but I think the gambling aspect is worse. You can see how much the season pass is and decide if you think £120 a year is worth it. But the card opening system is just gambling and could be age restricted.
So very true, this game although very fun is one of the worst offenders for predatory practices. Some of my favourite Former Gwent streamers during beta tried to spin this game as totally not pay 2 win. I understand they need support from the developers and perks of being on their good lists, but even in beta this game was far from generous. Games like Gwent and Legends of Runeterra have given a excellent perceived value and most of the times LOR has so many options to gain chests unlocking cards in your chosen region or in Gwents case chosen faction. Lor has even a Free Rouge mage like game that also builds towards your card acquisition. The best part of these 2 games is the ability to craft the exact cards you want or need to be competitive easily.
I think you're over estimating the offense by quite a bit. Yes, everything you say is true, but the line between honest advertising and predatory is not so black and white. Some things in this game certainly are predatory, but others are not. I think Gwent's generosity was a big part of its failure and many of these more questionable practices might be necessary to get the income needed to survive.
You think this is necessary for them to survive? This is one of the most profitable card games ever created. Unless by necessary you mean that the shareholder bonuses wont be large enough. This is greed. Just look at the shop prices. And I really disagree that Gwent failed due to the economy. Gwent failed due to developer decisions and lack of experience developing a complex card game that didn't use the skills they had, i.e., making single player games.
@@trevorjames123 to reiterate, some of what they do is manipulative and some is honest marketing. Some of what they do is necessary and some is not. As for Gwent, yeah, that was a big problem. I left the game several years ago so maybe I shouldn't speak to what caused its downfall, but when I was around it had plenty of player base despite many complaints on the professional scene. It was more than enough players to keep the game alive provided players were incentivized to spend a modest amount of money.
@Dr James well it is a free to play game if people don't spend money on it they have to shut it down so they have to sell people something you're not just going to make something free i with no way to get money. Console games get their money by charging 70 bucks a game free to play games have to milk people with Micro transactions because free to play
@@dgthunderer actually Gwent and LoR is not so profitable bc you unlock card so easily and drowned with dust to craft anything you want. No point for people to buy anything (even cosmetics) that's why they're dying
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Gwent was so generous with resources, I am just glad it held on as long as it did. I am also enjoying snap but with 1 card being released a week it means you can never actually catch up so you will always have a carrot dangled in front of you. I really hope they refine their model in the future. Also top tier graph, I know that must have taken a lot of time.
yeah im at cl 3560 and have all pool 3 cards the difference of card aquisition between the beginning and now is honestly very predatory. The only way to feel progression is to spend money to obtain quadruple the amount of credits you needed to even have a chance of getting a single card a day after cl 1000. Massive respect for the time you took to make this video. This is spot on. Sadly the game is so much fun XD
I am a casual player that just hit pool 3. Honestly I already have so much options to play different decks that I don't mind not unlocking new cards, I have several already that I am not using :D
Freddy snap content popping offn
Freddy back on TH-cam, you love to see it
I like snap but the onboarding is insidious. Feeding you constant unlocks and easy bot wins to hook you, stringing you out at CL500 where you are dropped into the Wild West against beta players will full collections, giving you hope again with the token shop at CL 1000 then starving you for collectors tokens after that so your mind wanders far past the reasonable season pass to the kraken food bundles just so you can keep the dopamine hits coming. Lol. Don’t buy those variants …even sexy white queen…save that gold for a bundle with collector tokens.
Great Video! Thanks for spending the time on this.
I can't help but feel that snap is the least predatory mobile game I've ever played
Thank you Freddy. I uninstalled the game for the 3rd time. This time it is for good
Ohhhhhkaayyy there buddy 😂
I keep thinking about uninstalling it, but never pull the trigger... the struggle is real.
I loved watching you in tournaments back in the early days of Gwent. I am so glad that you are making some Marvel Snap content. I think Snap has a Lot of potential!
Great vid man explaining how the system works. Glad to see you again. Been following you since Gwent. Cheers Freddy. Happy new year. 🍻
I played Gwent for three years.. Now I started about a month ago playing Marvel Snap It's a very cool and fun game
I didn’t expect a thorough analysis of p2p model, well done, was interesting to watch and I never even played the game. Keep it up Freddy.
I love the gameplay of Marvel Snap but I will never give into these predatory prices, the only thing I'll pay for is the Battle Pass (doesn't seem like a lot per month). I'll never understand the mentality that you need everything all at once. I'll just keep playing and when I unlock something I unlock it, until then I'll just use the cards I have and do the best I can with them. Also, I can't believe how much gold costs and the transaction of gold to card variants, essentially paying $14-$28 CAD for a variant of a card you don't physically own is insane to me.
The amount of time needed to go from pool 2 complete to pool 3 complete is ridiculously long. After completing pool 2 I have so far spent over $250 and I'm only at 1707 collection level. And yes I already know that completing missions and refreshing missions is one of the best ways to spend your gold and yes I bought the two most recent battle passes (Black Panther and Silver Surfer).
I believe you don't become pool 3 complete until you're nearly at 3000 collection level. So I've spent well over $200 and it barely put me above the half-way mark to completing my pool 3 collection. I think that's insane. Fun game but card acquisition needs to be improved in my opinion.
I think the most worrying thing about Snap (that I'm surprised the EU didn't pick up on) is the gambling aspect. The game uses loot boxes and gambling mechanics to addict players. I personally am fine with expensive prices, that is upfront and the value of cards is subjective. But EA was fined heavily for loot boxes and I fail to see how this is any different in Snap. There is a small percentage change of opening rare cards in the loot boxes, but then again... you might just get a title lol so you keep playing and spending credits hoping that you get lucky and get the cards you want. This is far more dangerous and predatory than a season pass.
Crimson Company is quite close to old Gwent too btw (with way less RNG though).
Your future self from 5 months from now sent me. You’re not completely wrong ^^”
Spot on Freddy, it's actually good to sit and reflect on these kind of practices. Helps you distance yourself from the game (in a healthy way).
Thank you for this honest and detailed video, Freddy! :)
The battle pass card is always way over tuned on top of everything!
I found it no more evil than hearthstone - hearthstone has loot boxes which is worse, but you can craft any card with dust which it's better, overall I'd say it's equally not evil. Both are less evil than 90% of the mobile games.
Gwent it still better
Best card game ever
@@GamingGenius247 sadly Gwent is dead, put on life support next year
I used to play Hearthstone and Shadowverse and then switch to Gwent and Runterra acquiring cards in this games is much better and they are not p2w.
Star Wars Force Arena still the best mobile game for me. Sadly when I think I only played it a few months before whales killed it.
It's fine tbh. I'm not a hardcore gamer and I'm not that impatient that I'd whine just because I can't get the cards I want as fast as games like Gwent/LoR. Making do with what I have was a little bit fun as I progressed through Series 3.
I actually only spent money after I finished Series 3, I thought that the game has given me enough fun to make me spend a little.
How long did it take you to get from pool 2 to pool 3 complete?
@@LetoAtreides82 about 2-4 months depending how much you play. It's quite reasonable, and not for the impatient
The prices are just to crazy for almost 0 value!
I mean its not as bad as other games like super cell games so I'm happy
I understand the battle pass needs a card to be the face of each season. But that is pretty "pay-to-win" especially when the card is crucial for a deck and there is no guaranteed way to get that card later.
I agree but I think the gambling aspect is worse. You can see how much the season pass is and decide if you think £120 a year is worth it. But the card opening system is just gambling and could be age restricted.
I've been playing for about 3 months now and I haven't spent a single penny on it.
For real they are evil geniuses for that, which i respect
So very true, this game although very fun is one of the worst offenders for predatory practices. Some of my favourite Former Gwent streamers during beta tried to spin this game as totally not pay 2 win. I understand they need support from the developers and perks of being on their good lists, but even in beta this game was far from generous.
Games like Gwent and Legends of Runeterra have given a excellent perceived value and most of the times LOR has so many options to gain chests unlocking cards in your chosen region or in Gwents case chosen faction. Lor has even a Free Rouge mage like game that also builds towards your card acquisition. The best part of these 2 games is the ability to craft the exact cards you want or need to be competitive easily.
Whait it's literally Ben Brode's game? :D
this game is really evil in EVERY way :D
glad i avoided this cash grab. mobile gaming has ruined gaming.
This game feels like a real rip-off.
I think you're over estimating the offense by quite a bit. Yes, everything you say is true, but the line between honest advertising and predatory is not so black and white. Some things in this game certainly are predatory, but others are not. I think Gwent's generosity was a big part of its failure and many of these more questionable practices might be necessary to get the income needed to survive.
I agree, and say so in the video ;)
You think this is necessary for them to survive? This is one of the most profitable card games ever created. Unless by necessary you mean that the shareholder bonuses wont be large enough. This is greed. Just look at the shop prices. And I really disagree that Gwent failed due to the economy. Gwent failed due to developer decisions and lack of experience developing a complex card game that didn't use the skills they had, i.e., making single player games.
@@trevorjames123 to reiterate, some of what they do is manipulative and some is honest marketing. Some of what they do is necessary and some is not.
As for Gwent, yeah, that was a big problem. I left the game several years ago so maybe I shouldn't speak to what caused its downfall, but when I was around it had plenty of player base despite many complaints on the professional scene. It was more than enough players to keep the game alive provided players were incentivized to spend a modest amount of money.
@Dr James well it is a free to play game if people don't spend money on it they have to shut it down so they have to sell people something you're not just going to make something free i with no way to get money. Console games get their money by charging 70 bucks a game free to play games have to milk people with Micro transactions because free to play
@@dgthunderer actually Gwent and LoR is not so profitable bc you unlock card so easily and drowned with dust to craft anything you want. No point for people to buy anything (even cosmetics) that's why they're dying
Streams have been great recently 🫰