To watch the full episode(s) of the Cedric Maxwell podcast with Isiah Thomas, click below: Part 1 - th-cam.com/video/u1ntMWqin40/w-d-xo.html Part 2 - th-cam.com/video/TBq7iScz_7U/w-d-xo.html
I grew up watching the 80's stars... I sure hated them pistons but I really enjoyed watching Isaiah play. He was a good team member and he took a lot of heat for other players. He took it with grace.... I sure hate that he didn't get to be a part of the Dream Team. I always felt he should have been there.
You might've "hated" a lot of players back then but they sure were "must see TV" . Nowadays if you see any old school NBA player; it's really a treat to talk to them
Great commentary. When Isiah talked about Bird's iconic steal, when I saw that for the first time years ago, I never thought, "Isiah screwed up." I saw it from the perspective of how crafty Bird was in setting that up. He planned that out perfectly. It's not a detraction from the greatness of Isiah but another clutch moment from Bird the crafty genius.
Isiah Thomas my hometown hero N does not get any credit for being a basketball 🏀 player in the 1⃣9⃣8⃣0⃣s. Everybody talks about Magic 🪄 Bird 🐦 & Michael but where is Isiah Thomas at. But it's okay 👍 cuz he beat Bird 🐦 Michael & Magic 🪄 to win his first NBA championship 🏆 Chitown Pride!!! I grew up ⬆ watching Isiah Thomas n his career. Thanks 🙏 Isiah for U being U.
This guy has a P.H.D. salute!!! He comes from poverty and Steph Curry comes from wealth yet he only ascertained a Bachelor’s after thirteen years in the league!!! I say that to say this, desire and determination has nothing to do with wealth!!!
As a kid growing up in Boston in the 80s I can say that I absolutely despised Isiah Thomas… I remember rooting for the Lakers that first year that Detroit beat us. Looking back on those battles what I realize now is that I didn’t actually despise him (certainly we are only talking about the player - we didn’t have the internet back then so we had no idea what he was actually like as a person) I was intimidated by him and maybe just a little bit jealous. Thomas was in that category of player like Magic, like MJ, like Sir Charles; he had the ability and the finesse to be able to make something positive happen for his team every single time he had the ball. I have enormous respect for him now. Same for John Salley. Same for Joe Dumars. Same for Dennis Rodman… Laimbeer - no - that guy should have walked on the court with Bobby “The Brain” Heenan every night! He added nothing to that team but his two hundred something pound, a-moral body.
@@NBAHistoryCLNS Cornbread, and Zeke for President! 2024. And I'm glad Isiah kept it a BUCK regarding Michael Jordan. Great interview. And Cedric Maxwell representing the QC Hard!!! (704) in the House!
Laimbeer was a big time shot maker. Hit a record tying (at the time) 5 3s in the finals against portland and followed that game up drawing 12 fouls the next game.
Bro I was exactly the same, grew up HATING Isaiah and the bad boys for beating the shit out of my bulls both literally and figuratively lol. Now though I respect him, and having lived long enough to make some fair size mistakes myself, I find Isaiah inspiring for always rising back up. Sorry for the novel.
I know it's been 30 plus years but the biggest travesty was Isiah being left off the 1992 Dream Team and in my opinion Isiah is the 2nd best PG ever behind Magic hands down and while I liked Stockton he was not Isiah.
Man I got to meet Maxwell at a Dallas Mavericks game while at the concession stand a few years ago. He's the coolest guy. He was shocked I recognized him and we chopped it up for a bit and took a pic. Then got t meet Parrish at my brothers graduation in Grand Prairie, TX. His grandson is my brother's friend and had no clue. Very cool and got a pic with him also.
As a 59 year old black man, I am thrilled about how articulate old school guys are. There are younger players too but it does not seem like as high a percentage of them are this articulate.
I’m from Indiana. Isiah was a celebrity and had major star status while in Bloomington at IU. Second only to Knight. No player at IU, not even Damon Bailey, has come close to Isiah in that department. Damon’s star faded quickly. Isiah’s never diminished. Knight said of Damon “I never got less out of a player than Bailey.”. Knight said of Isiah “If I ever had a player who came to win, it was Isiah.”. Speaks volumes
That was totally classy what Bill Russell did!! The Pistons weren't out of it at that point and yet Bill is helping him recover when Detroit still had a chance against Bill's old team!! That goes beyond sports.
U should be able to play competitively and still be friends. There's no way u should allow a GAME to destroy your relationship with friends or family. It's just a game that will leave you empty over time because the thrill of winning will eventually leave because there is no substance, and it does not replace human relationships.
I'm not from Detroit pistons I'm Seattle Supersonic fan I love ❤️ Isiah Thomas another of media kiss Michael Jordan ass but Celtics walk a way when they lost Detroit pistons and Isiah but when Detroit pistons walk a way Michael Jordan cry baby and the bulls media gives Isiah and Detroit
I wish the Detroit Pistons would swallow their pride and embrace Isiah again, he needs to coach the Pistons to get them back to the glory they once held.
I like Laimbeer’s game. But I don’t understand why he could not be more forgiving of Isiah of making that mistake in 1987 against Larry Bird. If anything Laimbeer should’ve have seen Larry Bird coming to him because he was supposed to receive the pass from Isiah. Laimbeer is basically the Sargent of Arms to Isiah being Captain on the Pistons and could’ve remind Isiah of how many timeouts the Pistons had
I really respect and like Zeke. I hated that shit back in the day growing up but he has seriously grown on me and earned my respect as honest and candid. I would love just go sit down with a beer and just listen. I will add, as much as I hated the pistons back in the day, Isiah was robbed of the dream team. The Bird comments probably harmed him but I sometimes wonder how much he was dragged into that. Maybe MJ was behind the block but without the Bird controversy, I wonder if Magic and Bird would have tried to help him.
You need to understand something Jordan was salty because team to team head up, the Pistons would be the Bulls evert season during the regular season so I think they played 6 times a year and Detroit would win 5 of them so Jordan is salty because Isiah always won when their teams played plus Detroit beat them on their way to 3 straight NBA ECFs and 3 straight NBA Finals appearances winning 2 of them so yeah Jordan should be salty. The other thing people do not know is that Isiah's family looked out for Jordan when he first came to Chicago and Jordan's brother and Isiah's sister were friends and hung out back then and the kicker is that Isiah's nephew back then lived with Jordan in the summer.
@Michael Alexander I mean I appreciate you quoting what he said on the interview he had a few weeks ago but salty is not the word I would say frustrated because he was losing but you do know every time the pistons won jordan shook all their hands but see they don't wanna talk about that soon as the bulls beat them they acted like a bunch of bitches and walked off early
@@supertaffiliate3667 Zeke still the only player from that era that beat Bird and the Celtics, Lakers and Magic and Jordan and the Bulls and he's the best PG ever after Magic hands down so f what you talking about.
I wonder what stops players from enforcing that no layups game plan. I know there’s harsh fines. I know there’s an aspect of not being the reason someone had to retire from basketball bc of an injury. But it doesn’t sit right with me to see little guys tap dancing into the lane with such little concern for their safety hahahaha. That wasn’t allowed before !
FROM OG, PLAYING TEAM BASKETBALL DOENT GIVE YOU RIGHT TO HURT PLAYERS TRYING SCORE POINTS TO WIN GAMES FOR TEAM THEIR PLAYING FOR ALSO PLAYERS BE TALKING ABOUT, UN PLAYING/WRITTEN RULES THAT SOME IGNORANCE PEOPLES MAKE UP, THATS NOT IN BASKETBALL RULE BOOKS AT ALL SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, THEY NEED BE THROWN OUT ANY BASKETBALL GAMES AND LEAGUE AS WELL TOO AM JUST SAYING DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM
I like the fact that zeke talks with anyone, but this Mike thing is something those two have to work out cause mentioning Mike on every interview makes it look like he's sour and can't move on.
@E DUB u see me as that.. yes, I am. The dude has been on a pity tour for decades about that man. Mike doesn't express it at all but only on the last dance series. Both guys are assholes but both have something in common, and that's the competitive drive. Those two hated losing to each other. Only they could solve this long-time issue and move on. I'm that Chicago kid that lived thru the series n want it squashed.
@@Westlyn80 Get over it and get a life. Who cares about either one of those jerks and how they feel about each other? As if you know them. Probably have their posters on your bedroom ceiling to this day. 🤭🤭
Isiah's really good at selling BS, and being personable, but most people know he's got that other side, and he does try to manipulate the narrative on things to get it in the direction he wants it to go.
To watch the full episode(s) of the Cedric Maxwell podcast with Isiah Thomas, click below:
Part 1 - th-cam.com/video/u1ntMWqin40/w-d-xo.html
Part 2 - th-cam.com/video/TBq7iScz_7U/w-d-xo.html
Isiah..always classy, always candid and full of remarkable insider stories. Max, this is a good podcast.
Please subscribe on Spotify or apple pod
Racist guy
Sorry Roger and dan
I can listen to kg and Isaiah Thomas tell NBA stories all day listening to this was classic can wait for next week.
I grew up in Boston and Zeke is my favorite player all time & Pistons is my team. Great podcast!
I grew up watching the 80's stars... I sure hated them pistons but I really enjoyed watching Isaiah play. He was a good team member and he took a lot of heat for other players. He took it with grace.... I sure hate that he didn't get to be a part of the Dream Team. I always felt he should have been there.
I loved the mention of Bill Cartwright by Isaiah, sharpest elbows in the game.
31:48 🎉🎉
Those big guys with elbows were the perfect height to do some real damage to the guards.
@@AbigailMcGarvey absolutely!
Isiah is always a pleasure 🙏 to listen
Born and raised Detroit Piston fan!!
Isiah is an impressive man.
No he not
Zeke equals click. Og godfather of the NBA.
You might've "hated" a lot of players back then but they sure were "must see TV" . Nowadays if you see any old school NBA player; it's really a treat to talk to them
So true.
I really like Cedric Maxell ..I love his personality...he seems like a person that is a straight shooter
Zeke is entertaining, great story teller
Great commentary. When Isiah talked about Bird's iconic steal, when I saw that for the first time years ago, I never thought, "Isiah screwed up." I saw it from the perspective of how crafty Bird was in setting that up. He planned that out perfectly. It's not a detraction from the greatness of Isiah but another clutch moment from Bird the crafty genius.
I don’t ever want to see that play again.
Detroit, born and raised!! #BadBoy!!!
@@mrflynn01 I feel your pain. If I were a Detroit fan and saw that game, I'd feel the same way.
You guys will love this: th-cam.com/video/fw83sBtE-SM/w-d-xo.html
somebody isnt from detroit lol
Bill Russell, what an incredible man
GOAT
Honorable Man The NBA Had to Offer !!
This story of NBA of Lore!!!
OMFG!!! The best times!!!!!
Isiah Thomas set a great example on and off the court. My mom made me watch his interviews and games because I wanted to be in the NBA.
Need a interview with Mark Aguirre or Terry Cummings
Isiah doesn’t age man! He looks like he can still play in the NBA.
Black folks don't age.
Indeed!
Outshoot any players in today's game
@@terrellhubbard definitely not picking his pocket with that dribble!
The original Babyfaced Assassin 💪🏾😎✌🏾
ISAIAH LORD THOMAS III THE LEGENDARY DETROIT PISTON WHAT MORE IS THERE TO SAY ? A GOLDSTANDARD SIMPLY THE BEST BETTER THAN ALL THE REST
One of the best and you don't have to YELL!
Isiah Thomas my hometown hero N does not get any credit for being a basketball 🏀 player in the 1⃣9⃣8⃣0⃣s. Everybody talks about Magic 🪄 Bird 🐦 & Michael but where is Isiah Thomas at. But it's okay 👍 cuz he beat Bird 🐦 Michael & Magic 🪄 to win his first NBA championship 🏆 Chitown Pride!!! I grew up ⬆ watching Isiah Thomas n his career. Thanks 🙏 Isiah for U being U.
Isiah was a great player at indiana and detroit , celtic fan
Chi-town westside here...Facts Facts don't enough Respect Period...👍👍👍👍👍👍
Fernwood and Roseland
This guy has a P.H.D. salute!!! He comes from poverty and Steph Curry comes from wealth yet he only ascertained a Bachelor’s after thirteen years in the league!!! I say that to say this, desire and determination has nothing to do with wealth!!!
Michael Jordan said he's the second best Point Guard in NBA history behind Magic.
"No matter how much I hate him ."
🎤 Drop.
Just Bill Russell being Bill Russell...
GOAT
This is great stuff, Bread! Blessings!
Great Interview I could listen to these guys all day!!!! Old school Celtic Fan
As a kid growing up in Boston in the 80s I can say that I absolutely despised Isiah Thomas… I remember rooting for the Lakers that first year that Detroit beat us. Looking back on those battles what I realize now is that I didn’t actually despise him (certainly we are only talking about the player - we didn’t have the internet back then so we had no idea what he was actually like as a person) I was intimidated by him and maybe just a little bit jealous.
Thomas was in that category of player like Magic, like MJ, like Sir Charles; he had the ability and the finesse to be able to make something positive happen for his team every single time he had the ball. I have enormous respect for him now. Same for John Salley. Same for Joe Dumars. Same for Dennis Rodman… Laimbeer - no - that guy should have walked on the court with Bobby “The Brain” Heenan every night! He added nothing to that team but his two hundred something pound, a-moral body.
So well said. I’m sending this to Isiah.
Laimbeer offered perimeter shooting, rebounding and interior defense with his love for physical play. Bill was a good passer too.
@@NBAHistoryCLNS Cornbread, and Zeke for President! 2024. And I'm glad Isiah kept it a BUCK regarding Michael Jordan. Great interview. And Cedric Maxwell representing the QC Hard!!! (704) in the House!
Laimbeer was a big time shot maker. Hit a record tying (at the time) 5 3s in the finals against portland and followed that game up drawing 12 fouls the next game.
Obviously, you have something against Laimbeer. He was a great defender and perimeter shooter. Great teammate as well
Great one Max! Looking forward to part 2.
He used to drill holes in Jordan. He's 6'1 and you have to be festy in the NBA at that size!
Bill Russell...a Great Nupe 👌🏾, Zeke a Great Chicago Legend
OMG - I can't wait for part 2 and I don't even LIKE Thomas. I may change my mind on that!
Bro I was exactly the same, grew up HATING Isaiah and the bad boys for beating the shit out of my bulls both literally and figuratively lol. Now though I respect him, and having lived long enough to make some fair size mistakes myself, I find Isaiah inspiring for always rising back up. Sorry for the novel.
Cedrick is a great interviewer.
Number 31!!!!!!! My dad loved you! Thank you for that Game 7!
I know it's been 30 plus years but the biggest travesty was Isiah being left off the 1992 Dream Team and in my opinion Isiah is the 2nd best PG ever behind Magic hands down and while I liked Stockton he was not Isiah.
Thank you for bring Mr. Isiah Thomas
Larry called him Cheese 😆
Awesome interview! Can't wait till next week!
Not only does Isiah not age, he always remembers the smallest details.
Small guards who set picks and came i to the lane aggressively are often called dirty players by the big guys. Interesting take
Go watch some John Stockton film and you’ll see why.
@@adgee5401Stockton was average, period.
One of my favorites
Man I got to meet Maxwell at a Dallas Mavericks game while at the concession stand a few years ago. He's the coolest guy. He was shocked I recognized him and we chopped it up for a bit and took a pic. Then got t meet Parrish at my brothers graduation in Grand Prairie, TX. His grandson is my brother's friend and had no clue. Very cool and got a pic with him also.
As a 59 year old black man, I am thrilled about how articulate old school guys are. There are younger players too but it does not seem like as high a percentage of them are this articulate.
C'mon man.
Best Maxwell podcast yet.
Who beat everyone on the dream team….#11🏀🐐
Great show as always!
When Zeke the he got a phone call, I thought it would be Chuck Daily calling to ask him “where the F are you?!!!”
I didn’t expect it would be Russell
Same
Exactly 😂
Great upload!
Thanks for the visit
I’m from Indiana. Isiah was a celebrity and had major star status while in Bloomington at IU. Second only to Knight. No player at IU, not even Damon Bailey, has come close to Isiah in that department. Damon’s star faded quickly. Isiah’s never diminished. Knight said of Damon “I never got less out of a player than Bailey.”. Knight said of Isiah “If I ever had a player who came to win, it was Isiah.”. Speaks volumes
Zeke is definitely one of my favorite players of all time! Imo hands down the best “pound for pound” player ever‼️ Sorry AI 🤷🏾♂️
Zeke the best!!
Shutup troll
Cmon Cornbread. You know the back door exists. It always has.
Good Sportsmanship should be important!!! Thank you!! Mic'2023
That was totally classy what Bill Russell did!! The Pistons weren't out of it at that point and yet Bill is helping him recover when Detroit still had a chance against Bill's old team!! That goes beyond sports.
Excellent Episode 👍
Lol Milwaukee
U should be able to play competitively and still be friends. There's no way u should allow a GAME to destroy your relationship with friends or family. It's just a game that will leave you empty over time because the thrill of winning will eventually leave because there is no substance, and it does not replace human relationships.
I like you guys show going back bringing back the pass it's really good to hear
Westside
Good job!
I'm not from Detroit pistons I'm Seattle Supersonic fan I love ❤️ Isiah Thomas another of media kiss Michael Jordan ass but Celtics walk a way when they lost Detroit pistons and Isiah but when Detroit pistons walk a way Michael Jordan cry baby and the bulls media gives Isiah and Detroit
mane eye ain’ kno cornbread had no podcast mane…shid, eye’ma B tunin’ n 4 deez junts ✌🏿
How you Detroit fans forgot About Bernard king and eliminate y'all
Yeah .....this dude was man before Jordan...
Isiah was the greatest. Only 6 foot and survived as one of the best.
Go cry MJ!
I think I went blind from the light of the Isaiah's smile.
The Both look great
20:40 that part was cold ❄️🥶 as hell 🚒🔥 and real a$$ f_ck. "James Worthy" freaking awesome man 👞, great job everyone involved
Listening to these old school vets is like a drug for me. I’m injecting all this into my brain
Whoa!
Thomas has a great eye for young talent
I wish the Detroit Pistons would swallow their pride and embrace Isiah again, he needs to coach the Pistons to get them back to the glory they once held.
Nobody wanted that Chief smoke😅😅😅😅😅😅
ICON ISAIAH THOMAS TY GUYS😊👍💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
Isiah thomas all time great point guard
I like Laimbeer’s game. But I don’t understand why he could not be more forgiving of Isiah of making that mistake in 1987 against Larry Bird.
If anything Laimbeer should’ve have seen Larry Bird coming to him because he was supposed to receive the pass from Isiah. Laimbeer is basically the Sargent of Arms to Isiah being Captain on the Pistons and could’ve remind Isiah of how many timeouts the Pistons had
So much greats!👍🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
detroit vs boston always fights bird vs laimbeer
👏🏾💯
His name is Cedric not cornbread
That's why Oakley doesn't like Zeke. The same reason he says Zeke doesn't like Jordan He took your city
Great Dialogue. Eddy Curry was not the answer in NY. they should have kept the other four former knicks who became champions with other teams.
I really respect and like Zeke. I hated that shit back in the day growing up but he has seriously grown on me and earned my respect as honest and candid. I would love just go sit down with a beer and just listen. I will add, as much as I hated the pistons back in the day, Isiah was robbed of the dream team. The Bird comments probably harmed him but I sometimes wonder how much he was dragged into that. Maybe MJ was behind the block but without the Bird controversy, I wonder if Magic and Bird would have tried to help him.
Isiah wasnt robbed of shit
get him confused with mad max
I S A I A H
Jordan said the same thing and ya mad about it😂😂😂😂😂
And now him & Magic have Homosexual sons, but that kiss on the cheek was suspect.
Y'all need to quit 😆!
big 4 teams in 80s bad boys detroit phila 76ers bird celtics magic lakers showtime
Well Chief said he hates you
Isiah is a year younger than me, he must of forgot when he came in the league how many players were drug addicts and criminals.
Jordan said the same thing Parrish said but he mad at mike... could it be jealousy? 🤔
No, it’s facts and people can’t stand to say MJ loses games!!
You need to understand something Jordan was salty because team to team head up, the Pistons would be the Bulls evert season during the regular season so I think they played 6 times a year and Detroit would win 5 of them so Jordan is salty because Isiah always won when their teams played plus Detroit beat them on their way to 3 straight NBA ECFs and 3 straight NBA Finals appearances winning 2 of them so yeah Jordan should be salty.
The other thing people do not know is that Isiah's family looked out for Jordan when he first came to Chicago and Jordan's brother and Isiah's sister were friends and hung out back then and the kicker is that Isiah's nephew back then lived with Jordan in the summer.
@Michael Alexander I mean I appreciate you quoting what he said on the interview he had a few weeks ago but salty is not the word I would say frustrated because he was losing but you do know every time the pistons won jordan shook all their hands but see they don't wanna talk about that soon as the bulls beat them they acted like a bunch of bitches and walked off early
@Michael Alexander you can jokingly say you hate a person you compete against but zeke is a hater that's why he still talking about it to this day
@@supertaffiliate3667 Zeke still the only player from that era that beat Bird and the Celtics, Lakers and Magic and Jordan and the Bulls and he's the best PG ever after Magic hands down so f what you talking about.
Isiah how you doing? "I'm here to hate and get paid"
I wonder what stops players from enforcing that no layups game plan. I know there’s harsh fines. I know there’s an aspect of not being the reason someone had to retire from basketball bc of an injury. But it doesn’t sit right with me to see little guys tap dancing into the lane with such little concern for their safety hahahaha. That wasn’t allowed before !
Isiah kind of missed an opportunity. yes Ja morant is out of control. but old heads from memphis arent gonna cure it. Ja needs his parents.
FROM OG, PLAYING TEAM BASKETBALL DOENT GIVE YOU RIGHT TO HURT PLAYERS TRYING SCORE POINTS TO WIN GAMES FOR TEAM THEIR PLAYING FOR ALSO PLAYERS BE TALKING ABOUT, UN PLAYING/WRITTEN RULES THAT SOME IGNORANCE PEOPLES MAKE UP, THATS NOT IN BASKETBALL RULE BOOKS AT ALL SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, THEY NEED BE THROWN OUT ANY BASKETBALL GAMES AND LEAGUE AS WELL TOO AM JUST SAYING DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM
Isiah play Jordan one on one now. You win. Period. Then that's it.
How you guys don't. Bernard king he bust y'all ass
Parish was DEAD wrong for what he did to Laimbeer
He should have done it long before you mean.
@@marykuettner752 ok
Most NBA fans loved it, players included
@@hairjordan2620 It STILL was WRONG so..
@@alanduff1054 maybe he deserved it?
2 grown men talking about jordan is crazy
Another cursing show
HATIN ASS ISIAH!!
I like the fact that zeke talks with anyone, but this Mike thing is something those two have to work out cause mentioning Mike on every interview makes it look like he's sour and can't move on.
A Psychologist are ya?
@E DUB u see me as that.. yes, I am. The dude has been on a pity tour for decades about that man. Mike doesn't express it at all but only on the last dance series. Both guys are assholes but both have something in common, and that's the competitive drive. Those two hated losing to each other.
Only they could solve this long-time issue and move on. I'm that Chicago kid that lived thru the series n want it squashed.
If he’s asked the question and doesn’t answer, we pissed. If he does answer, he’s “bitter,” we pissed lol. Isiah can’t win.
@@Westlyn80 Get over it and get a life. Who cares about either one of those jerks and how they feel about each other? As if you know them. Probably have their posters on your bedroom ceiling to this day. 🤭🤭
Tell Jordan not to mention Isiah then. This was dead until The Last Dance.
But Jordan is the goat 🐐 and always will be
Greatest of the 90s. He didn't play in every era so can't be "all time". He wasn't much in the 80s.
@@riffsthatkill2180 Jordan was pretty good in the 5 yrs he balled in the 1980’s.
How to say you didn’t watch the video without saying you didn’t watch the video 😂
@@riffsthatkill2180 Stop hijacking threads over who is the GOAT, Riffy! Jordan, is the GOAT if one knows anything about the game of basketball.
Not even close to it.
Isiah's really good at selling BS, and being personable, but most people know he's got that other side, and he does try to manipulate the narrative on things to get it in the direction he wants it to go.
Takes one to know one right?
HOW?
Isiah gave buckets TO EVERYBODY.