The WEIRDEST Episode of Game of Thrones
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ส.ค. 2024
- In this video essay on Game of Thrones, in anticipation for season two of House of the Dragon, I discuss the weirdest episode of the tv series.
This episode is "A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms," season 8 episode 2. The episode, set entirely in Winterfell, follows our central characters- Jon, Daenerys, Jaime, Tyrion, et al. as they essentially prepare to die before the long-awaited Battle of Ice and Fire between the alliance of the living armies and the army of the dead. This Game of Thrones video essay, or commentary, or analysis, argues that “A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms” is the strangest game of thrones episode, because it doesn’t act like a Game of Thrones episode.
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What is the most underrated episode of Thrones?
Mother's Mercy, season 5 episode 10. Pure terror. The stakes were never higher. The wait between this episode and season 6 waiting to find out if Jon was dead or alive. And they made us wait until episode 2 of the next season to find out. Honestly that finale for season 5 and the first 3 episodes of season 6 were the some of the most memorable moments of any television I've ever watched, but mostly because of the agonizing wait between the 2 seasons to find out all of our favorites fate. Sansa jumping off the wall, escaping with Theon.... Arya becoming blind.... Jon getting betrayed..
Stannis dead (or maybe he somehow survived we didn't actually see Brienne cut his head off) there was so much Stannis cope between the two seasons. I was one of those people wanting the Mannis to still be alive somehow.... But yeah S05E10 very underrated
Edit: Forgot to mention this episode was the introduction of the zombie fricken Mountain!
The Watchers on the Wall. It's the best episode.
fire and blood and it's not even close
The very first episode…..
@@AGuyCalledHarry How can it be underrated when everyone meat rides the shit out of it
This video opens up old wounds. I’m still not over how Weiss and Benieof butchered the greatest series in television history. Season 8 was criminal.
I had an ex girlfriend with Lupus on dialysis. She threw a game of thrones party for the finale of season 7. It was a great party with all of her friends. Little Finger died and she was so pleased. The wall fell down and the Ice dragon arose with such mystery. A few days later she died (probably stopped doing her dialysis. We realized the party she threw was actually her going away party. After season 8, I was happy she went out on season 7.
It started to lose its way long before season 8. After rewatching the show, all of it again. Season 5 is where it started to go off track.
@@JoeyXSmith Season 6 had some gems - Battle of Bastards, The Door, Oathbreaker…Season 7 was where it really got egregious for me. Regardless, I think I would’ve been able to forgive and forget all that had they just nailed the landing. Nothing that they had been building towards for 8 years ended up mattering. The Night King, Bran, Jon Snow’s lineage…none of it 🤬
They did this abomination against everyone's wishes including HBO who was prepared to pay for 8 more seasons.
But they wanted that Disney star wars money so they set it on fire to get onto that.
I'm glad we made their names into poison for anything else they attempted in the future. Their star wars opportunity got quickly canceled afterwards.
F them
So was season 7.
My sixth grade students asked me “Why are you in such a good mood today?”
“Last night’s ’Game of Thrones’ episode was beautiful. I feel like I just said ‘goodbye’ to so many of my favorite characters that I’ve spent the past seven years falling in love with.”
The next Monday…
”Why are you in a bad mood?”
“Because none of my favorite characters died.”
I was expecting several of the main characters to die. It was a total let down in a series that previously defied convention in that nobody had plot armor.
Why are you talking to your students about your emotional reaction to a tv show? Your job is to teach.
@@Tyrod-Lannister 1) Having at least some personal connection helps students engage in academic content. 2) Sharing emotional connection with literary content and entertainment to preteens hopefully encourages them to willingly pursue content with which they can connect. 3) They noticed something about me and asked. I responded honestly, and it took no more than three total minutes. 4) While writing, it is important to understand how to properly develop a plot. Since GOT has several interwoven plots, it can be studied regarding the intricacies of several stories that all lead to a similar destination. 5) There’s also a lesson to study regarding imagery and foreshadowing, and how both of those (among other elements) can increase a story’s effectiveness, or in this case tarnish an otherwise solid story. 6) What’s your job? Do you only talk about your job from clock in to clock out with not even the meekest reference to life outside of work?
The first three episodes of season eight should have been the last three episodes of season seven. I will never change my mind.
that's a great take ngl.
Yeah, they wanted to fuck with us for another year or two
As you shouldn't.
Pretty much, although with the exception being that Jaime should have died and someone else should have killed the night king.
I agree Season 7 & 8 should have both been 10 episodes. But I would have had Season 7 end with Dany taking King's landing after Arya sneaks in and kills Cersei. (She decides to go to King's landing instead of winterfell). Season 8 would then be all about the Army of the Dead invading Westeros. Have the north lose the battle of Winterfell and suffer severe casualties, but have some main characters retreat south. Danys army marches north to meet them at the twins or the eerie where we get a second battle and Jon defeats the Night King at the cost of his own life. We can then have another great council meeting, only this time Dany decides to make all seven kingdoms independent so that each can repair the damage the Night King's invasion & The War of Five Kings has caused. Dany gives up the crown and returns to the east.
This episode was a great show of wrapping everything up and giving everyone a better send off than the actual series finale
Exactly
I think this episode is so annoying as it feels like it was thrown away in the next. Why have all these beautiful and emotional last moments together when almost none of the characters actually die in the next episode?
I mean, yea. The next episode ruins things for sure.
The point was that the emotional moments were heartfelt as none of them truly expected to survive the battle. I think it was the extensive plot armor that ruined the next episode.
The show wasn't an exercise in nihilism or cynicism, but a triumph of the human spirit. Having most characters survive was a boss move, and every single one of the surviving characters, especially Sam you all love to hate, had a role in either the upcoming story or in the rebuilding of the realm.
@@SerbAtheistthat’s not have good story telling works. If you want characters to survive in a well told story you don’t put them in position where they have no chance at survival then cut away only to show later that they survived with no explanation.
@@amateuroverlord8007 So essentially every single zombie movie out there, for example, is 'bad storytelling.' Or most action movies... put their protagonist in peril and have them rescue themselves through ridiculously contrived circumstances. But somehow, only Game of Thrones, the show that moved away most from this, is being pilloried.
There was plenty of plot armor in the early seasons as well. Tyrion should have been killed by that axe blow... no one questions why his would didn't get infected, or Jaime's hand... but for some reason in the later seasons everything is put to question... like Arya's stabbing.
I wonder why. Could it be that the show stopped giving you what you wanted? I'm pretty sure no one would have given two sh*ts about who survived has Jon had his 'epic battle' with the NK.
It’s no surprising that this is the best ep of season 8 considering it wasn’t even written by D&D
I didn't know this but it makes perfect sense. Zero chance D&D at this point based on what seemed like straight impatience with the series could drop Jenny's song in that moment.
Episode 2/ Season 8 is actually the last good episode of GOT. Here’s a fun fact - Episodes 1 and 2 were not written by D&D and they were so much better than Episodes 3-6 which were all written by D and D. I firmly believed that D and D just QUIT. This is the last episode that they didn’t write.
Interesting
Uh….8-3 is a damned movie!!
Better than most in theaters…..🎭
@@BobG-pi8bb Depends what you mean by good. It was an ok episode in my mind. I think either 7-7 was the last good episode, although even that wasn't without fault.
@@StONed-yx5qq 8x3 is an awful episode
@@lewis0705 it’s as long as any movie!
To not like it befuddles the dragons….🐉
What is t0 not like ?
I didn't even hate the ending
I hate how they did it.
Exactly this. I said this and my wife and friends thought I was crazy. The actual ending paid off a lot of character development for Dani, Arya, Sansa and Tyrion, and even Jon a little though he should’ve been the one to kill the night king. It all made sense except Bran. It just needed more episodes to build towards it. Absolutely too rushed.
Totally agree if you want someone to become a villain in show you need to show not tell the amount of rush was so evident in the last season.
@@jag9872they could’ve fixed it so easily. Make Rhagal die during the attack on kings landing and then she spirals…
Or even better… strategically place scorpions INSIDE the city so she is kinda forced to fire 🔥 on the innocent to take them out. Some simple fixes would’ve made it make more sense.
@@Orion33759 I still think in the books its possible kings landing will blow up wildfire but not intentionally maybe Daeny will torch the castle and unknowingly set off all the wildfire that hasn’t been accounted for.
@@jag9872 I kinda hope Cersei goes mad queen and Jaime has to fulfill the prophecy (killed by her valonqar)the rumor is Cersei came first, making Jaime her little brother
I remember loving this episode when it released. The satisfaction of all of the plots having finally converged to one location really worked for me, and the Jenny of Oldstones song just had me so nostalgic and emotional. I really thought things had slowed down to prepare us for peak GoT… man.
I remember watching season 8 for the first time getting to episode 2, and being like “how could anyone hate this season this is amazing so far” just to have my hope and dreams get crushed as soon as I watched the rest of the season
I liked that they covered the night before a big battle. Instead of the big game or the big meeting it’s a big battle. Can you sleep? Do you try to sleep? The nerves…
Agreed
I really liked this episode and I dare say it was the last good episode before a giant load of shit with everything that followed.
Yup
The episode holds up because Ryan Condal, co-creator of HotD wrote it imo
Game of Thrones should have gone down as unequivocally the greatest television show of all time. Two or three more seasons and some new writers who didn’t just want to wrap it up because they were tired of the show or whatever, and we have it.
Season 8 wasn't the beginning of the end, GoT was on a downwards spiral from season 5 on. They would have needed to start making changes far earlier for them to be considered the greatest show ever.
I thought it was a great episode.... Brie getting knighted was a highlight of the series
Of the series?!
@cromcccxvi3787 I suppose it was one of the more meaningful parts of the series, considering how things ended up. I thought her sitting on the small council and writing her tribute to Jamie and ensuring he was remembered was a nice touch.
Prob the best episode in the season 7-8 run
The best of season 8 for sure for me, and still not a very good one overall.
Everyone talks about setup and payoff in terms of building up tension, plot twists, battles, and character deaths, but the emotional moments and enjoyment in an episode like this are only possible as payoff because so much work and character building was done in the previous 7 seasons to make us care about the characters and their journeys. Like, think about how much less impact Brienne’s knighting would have had if Renly had knighted her in S02E01 right after naming her to his kingsguard…
you know what, you've sold me on this episode - if most of the characters died during the long night maybe I would have felt so much more during the rest of season 8. After watching this - I wish Jamie, Tormund, Greyworm, Missande and more had died right after. Would have solidified so much more of the anger resulting afterwards.
Any discussion of this episode should mention the wonderful song, "Jenny of Oldstones," with perfect performance by Podrick, a young man of multiple hidden talents :-). Ramin Djawadi captures the mood of the episode perfectly. This song and "Rains of Castamere" were the musical highlights of the series.
Great sequence!
Just found out DnD didn't write this and it makes total sense. They didn't have the ability to pull Jenny's song. This was the last moment of actually caring about this source material.
Dying at how this is my favorite episode of season 8 😭😂
This episode had given me hope that season 8 might stick the landing. Unfortunately, those hopes were soon to be crushed. I loved the character moments in this episode though, and the buildup towards what was coming.
Seriously? lol It's nothing like GOT
This was the last moment I had hope and excitement for something good and interesting coming up, something that could redeem everything since season 7. Probably because not much was happening in this episode. "You can't ruin something if you don't do anything." Seriously, one of the reasons this episode seemed a good one compared to others in this season, because we had this feeling of anticipation.
This was the last great episode of Game of Thrones, and the only episode of season 8 that I liked without reservation. The rest were all a very, very mixed bag at best.
the fact most of the characters didn't end up dying but the writers found a way to still take away another person Sansa trusted and could relate to in her trauma/experience... like finally give Theon and Sansa each other, only for her to lose him
This episode is great, but it would have been great to see Jon ask Jaime something about Rhaegar. That whole backdrop, what the North still thinks of him, what that clash and dynamic must mean to Jon, and here's one of the only people left that actually knew him.
Like so much by the end of this series, what a waste of an incredible story.
I don't even remember anything from Season 8. Saw it once and just never touch that things again. I might create a TH-cam video reacting to it a few years from now haha
thank you!! I just recently finished the show myself while season 8 definitely wasn't good I found that me and my girlfriend felt this was a very good episode
My favorite episode of the season. It was so good I was surprised when i saw people didn't like it
this stands head and shoulders above every single other episode of season 8
I loved this episode. It set up allllllll the chills and feels for the white walkers coming. One of my favorite episodes ❤️
I would think that a night before a great battle would be much like this episode.
It’s the best episode of the season and a call back to the first season
You mean the finale where Bran the cripple becomes King and Jon (Aegon Targaryen) becomes a nobody?
Sent back to the Wall *again* - he can't even DIE his way out of that prison!!
I think it's a subversive episode only in the sense it's different to all other GoT, but by general TV standards, I think it's very generic and ordinary. Part of what was special about the show was how abnormal the rest of it felt. I can't say I dislike the episode either. There is an undeniable pleasure to seeing the characters you've grown to love, get to just interact in an ordinary, slightly sentimental setting. It's got the appeal of a fanfic, but I wouldn't say that makes it good, or that there's anything challenging about the episode. Enjoyed this discussion a lot though!
This was a good episode; a rarity in season 8.
It was the only good episode of season 8 and - no coincidence - it’s one of the two in season 8 not written by D&D. In other words, it’s not written by someone who quit.
Excellent point and observation.
Why thank you
It tells you a lot, when filler episode was without a doubt the best episode in the entire season :(
I always think I hate this episode but I really just get mad because they set up a lot of solid stuff here and then just trashed it in the next episodes.
I can't believe you didn't mention Pod's singing or the song he chose :le sigh:
Thanks for introducing me to the term bottle episode. Ironically just the night before last I I recapped and partially reenacted my favorite sopranos episode for a friend, sopranos home movies which in fact is a bottle episode which is what I really loved about it. The first episode of the last season at excellently sets up the focus it wasn't until years later that I realized the importance I'm properly understanding how the show ended.
I find everything in season 7 and 8 totally uninteresting.
"The Spoils of War" is awesome, but yea-- comparatively I agree.
Randy LOVES your videos brother
Thanks 😽
Release the deleted tapes Randy
the show was ruined before this episode, but it could be saved, the third of S8 should have been the last.
Does this include the long night?
Ahhh, just thinking about 7&8 makes me so sad til this day
It’s wild you didn’t even mention the Jenny of Oldstones moment
The real problem with season 8 is it's back to front. If King's Landing was burned in the first half and the siege of the dead wasn't Winterfell but the ashes of King's Landing. And you could see what was going on I think it would have worked.
This episode gave ma lot of hope for the last season, making the actual resolution even more devastating. This was the last time GoT was close to it's best.
I hate the end of Game of Thrones :( lol I hope George finishes the books someday so we can have a real ending. She called. He yelled
"Cartwright". I missed her.
Good work. Cheers ✌🏼🌻
Preciate it
The show should’ve gone the way the books seem to be heading with the WW being the major threat, not the battle for the IT. Cersei will flee KL in the books when (F)Aegon takes the city. I agree Bran is meant to be king in the books but I always had hoped that Dany would defeat (F)Aegon in a mini Dance of the Dragons, then Jon claims a dragon, they fight the WW with Bran helping in some major way. Also, Dany gets pregnant by Jon and ends up having twins but dying in childbirth. Also, Jon dies killing the NK in some epic fashion after Bran does something amazing and tells Jon he must bring the dawn. The twins (Boy and Girl) are left to be raised by Tyrion, Bran, and all those that loved Dany/Jon that stayed at court while Tyrion ruled as Regent and Davos as his hand. Bittersweet with Jon/Dany dying and their dragons, although one of the dragons laid eggs before the fight with the WW and two eggs are placed in Jon/Danys twins cradles perhaps to one day hatch. Probably not bitter enough for GRRM but that was my preferred ending!
Nonono, the ninja girl killing the zombie hive king with a school trick, that's how you do it.
I have always loved this episode, and like you, despise the rest of S8. The pacing of this one also feels slower and patient; deeper than it is wide in a way that reminds me of the early seasons. Some of those Hound/Arya Road Movie Episodes were so slow and deliberate.
The latter 4 seasons didnt feel like GOT
I knew EXACTLY which episode this was going to be before I even clicked on the video lol This episode felt like a completely different tv show. The writing... ugh. Watching an episode from the early seasons & then watching this episode (or any S8 ep).. the difference is very noticeable.
Impressive. Threw in Tyrion from another episode to throw people off.
A "bottle episode" in an already very short final season...
This episode was the episode that finally gave me some bit of hope for season 8. Then all of it got shattered by the remaining episodes
This was the best episode of this season.
Totally
I like this episode, it doesn’t feel weird to me. What one feels weird is 8x04, it’s has this really weird energy the whole way through
Did not know I needed this show in 4:3
Oh man , just the mention of Jamie knighting Brienne just about brought tears to my eyes. 🥹
I never wanted to see Maisie Williams topless that was so uncomfortable to me
I never watched 7 and 8 because I had waited a few months after premiere to watch 7, and a friend told me it had gone bad and to stop at 6 so I remember it during better times 😭🤣🤣 because of them I never finished the last two seasons.
The Tormund part of the Fireplace party wasn't to be different. It was their version of Thor drinking almost all the water in the sea from Norse Mythology. It's within the tale of Thor vs. The Giant, Utgard-Loki. (Not regular Loki, who was with him, too, on the same excursion). In the same adventure, he drinks from a Giants drinking horn and to him, he seems to barely make a dent in the mead cup. But in reality, he almost drains the sea.
He lifts what he thinks is a giant cat, but is really Jormungand, and does other things that seem to be one thing, and turn out to be something else entirely, in reality. The other end of the drinking horn from the feasting contest was connected to the sea, and Thor drank a good half of it before setting the horn down greatly scaring the giants that he would drain it whole. Even the cat was no ordinary pet but the World Serpent in disguise, and Thor still managed to lift part of it in the sky over the already depleted sea.
Utgard-Loki, might be the inspiration for Jon. A Targ, that everyone thought was a Stark. A Crow that befriended the Wildlings. Giants that are probably related to, or parallel with, the Frost Giants, the Others. GRRM wasn't writing for the show anymore. But his inspiration source material is spelled out in the Eddas for anyone to read.
It's a cautionary tale about the limits of humanity, surely, but the story also emphasizes the importance of perseverance and courage in the face of adversity. Despite their defeat, Thor and his companions did not give up, but instead continued on their journey, determined to face whatever challenges lay ahead.
And ultimately, that's exactly what our heroes did, too.
It doesn't fit at all with the show.
@sproductionsinc It kinda does, though, seeing how the whole thing was based on Ragnarok. This was just a snapshot in one scene, based on a snapshot of one scene in Norse Mythology.
Season 8 was an aberration period
2:38 not as cost saving as only having 8 episodes instead of 10
Tbh I think this episode was great the last good episode of the series. “The long night” was great too up until the night king was killed. I think we all expected him to win and that the final stand would be in kings landing. I hope 20 years from now this show gets remade and it’s not rushed and gets the 15 seasons it deserved yes it should still be on today. But hey atleast we have the amazing house of the dragon right?
The legacy will suffer if George doesn't finish the books.
This episode also showed Danerys that she would always be an outsider. That got worse and worse til she burnt it all down. Even enemies became friends in this episode, bonding not only over the will to live, but also wanting the best for the realm.
That’s ridiculous. She just got to Westhoros. The fact that she wasn’t accepted immediately doesn’t mean she would always be an outsider.
@@amateuroverlord8007You don’t understand the show do you?
@@09hicktown yes I do. I understand the show and the books. If you have a point you’d like to make go for it.
The earlier plan for season 8 itself was for wildfire to be wrecked. The burn it all down was an extra layer of character assassination D and D put in for shock value and possibly because they realized Jon wouldn't agree to an assassination attempt over something season 8 Dany never wanted to happen.
@@amateuroverlord8007 You don’t understand the show do you?
Too bad this was followed by an almost surgical destruction of everything that made the show great culminating in the WORST ending of any show in the history of TV IMO.
I might be able to agree with you, if I could freaking SEE anything! This episode (hell, a lot of s7/8) looks like the showrunners manage to forget how lighting works?!
awesome i really enjoyed this
So for book fans Brienne of Tarth is suggested to be a descendant of Ser Duncan the Tall, lord Commander of the the Kings Guard for Aegon the Unlikely. Dunk the Lunk, thick as a castle wall who thought he could be a night. It was gratifying to see her knighted by the Lord Comander. I believe Dunk came clean to Aegon at some point and he knighted him in secret to redeem the lie. But almost everything season 5 and on was just offensive. I haven't rewatched the series since because of how upset I still am, as a long time book fan. I'll just keep rereading the in world content over and over. With any luck we will get WOW before George dies. I'm not in a rush, I know it will be good but... Valar Morgulis, ya know?
This was my favorite of the season.
The weirdest episode of Game Of Thrones is also - in my opinion - the best episode of season 8... very fitting
I have a problem with season right haters. Big events cause big change; in fact the story is full of big changes, and climax changes in real life always seem rushed. This is something you learn by experiencing life. I’m 67 and I’ve noticed that most of the seasons haters are young and life is something they look forward to rather than look back on. Life doesn’t always move at a steady pace. I can’t speak tho the motivation of the writers, but this was more believable, character and storywise than if the haters had got what they wanted. Fairy tale endings in life are quite rare if ever.
The problem for me was that everything was just extremely simplified, inconsistent and stupid, boring, and dumbed down to Roland Emmerich levels of shit and schlock. Plenty of other shows out there which did much better. It's like Beethoven wrote an 11th symphony: The Poo Poo Song For Children.
Once it was an intriguing, smart, rich story, also full of lore, and all that was thrown out of the window to make a dumb, lurid circus spectacle. All the built up mysteries and complex relations utterly forgotten.
People don't start teleporting, breaking 4th walls, forgetting about ship armadas and dragons, or getting invulnerable just because big changes are happening, can't agree.
And most of all, it's a show, not real life, if I wanted to spend an average day in office, matching the excitement and cleverness of season 8, I could have just worked instead and I would even have gotten money for it.
It's the usual strawman argument to say "haters" are only complaining, because they didn't get what they wanted. 99% of the haters miss in episode 8 the richness, the complexities, the mysteries and thought-out coherence. That's all. It's not about not having had the ability to predict what will happen. People in fact are always excited for things they don't expect, but not in an incoherent, dumb way. A UFO could have landed in Westeros shooting lasers, which would have been perfectly unpredictable. But would it have been a good story, a good ending? No.
I'm 40+.
I loved this episode.
The last moment of hope. 😢
Every single thing of season 8 👀
This was the best episode of season 8, in my opinion. I recently binged the whole series for the 3rd time, and I was not looking forward to the final season. This episode was the one shining moment of an otherwise dreadful season.
Lol let’s just say half of them are lucky Ned Stark or Stannis wasn’t in Winterfell😂😂😂Them boys don’t let nothing slide
The only episode of Season 8 that I like and would possibly watch again. I particularly dislike episode one, so this gave me hope...😂
I actually liked this episode, could be my favorite one of the 8th season, it showed the connections between characters and the desperation they’re feeling, along with everything they’re losing for this fight, it truly made them look like a family
Of course all that went to garbage the episode after
Your voiceover audio is half as loud as the clips you play. Jarring to say the least.
Which spots specifically I can’t really tell
Basically every time it cuts to a clip from the show. 1:41 when your voice stops and Sandor's starts, he's twice as loud as you. At least on my phone anyway. Not having issues on any other videos, so I thought I'd try and help and let you know.
@@metallicoustic6733 you're right. Will fix this moving forward.
@@ComeWatchTV sweet! Can't wait for more content, keep it up!
Awesome video!
Thank you 🙏
Nah, for me this episode wasn't all that bad. Was it a little bit drawn out given what we know happens in the next episode? - sure. But I think the poignancy of the episode is what makes it memorable. Bringing all these characters together, characters who throughout the books and series have been enemies of one another at some point and have them all put differences aside and form those bonds that we wouldn't have otherwise seen or expected. And actually, I remember watching this episode and truly having so many thoughts in my mind of who we were going to see die in the next episode. Of course, there was some disappointment around the build up and then actual outcome, no denying. But to say this was a weird episode or one of the worst just isn't the case imo.
My argument was that it was weird BUT good. I didn’t ever say it was bad
@@ComeWatchTV apologies, wasn’t necessarily saying you’d said it was bad. I was just providing my opinion to the rest of the comments and the discussion for those who have said it was bad or didn’t work etc… should have made that clearer
This was the last great episode of the show and on my next re-run I may just stop here tbh. The last 3 episodes don't exist in my mind
This is my favorite episode of the final seasons.
This and “Spoils of War” for me
This episode was the one that made me think that things are going to be amazing.. But this episode is all setup for deaths/people to do amazing things and finish their arcs being heroes.. Yet there's little to no payoff in the next episode. It's still a great episode on its own.. But I think season 8 should of been entirely running/battles with the Wight Walkers.
The Tormund milk chugging was unnecessary and actually a little annoying.
oh, 100%. It was unnecessary and annoying, but it's randomness made it appealing to me. It feels like a risk for Thrones.
@@ComeWatchTV - I laughed the first time I watched it. It just got progressively more annoying on subsequent viewings. 🤣
Tormund in general was so overdone by the end
that’s the point. the show runners are trolling you.
It was a tale from Norse Mythology. Thor vs Utgard Loki. (Not Regular Loki, though he is also in the tale.)
There's something I never thought I would see about GOT! Haha.
Did you manage to finish the series or not? 👀
I did eventually. Accepted that it couldn’t be THAT bad, and I guess it wasn’t
since its always about money, no expense shouldve been spared for the fnal season. we got robbed.
(3:01) The whole show is people talking.🤭
I originally loved this episode because of where I thought the show was going. 1 last time to spend with characters we loved before all hell broke loose. I thought the majority of the cast would die in Winterfell including Daenerys. I thought Arya and Bran would escape. Jon would escape on Daenery Dragon and retreat to King's Landing. I thought King's Landing would be the final battle against the White Walkers and the dead. We were already in time travel mode so no issue about that. lol
felt like the show was done like 4 times
Dumb and dumber decided to cut the 2 last seasons up to 8 episodes each, this also is one of the reasons why the last season was a shit show overall
8-3 is a damn badass movie!!!!!
I do have a criticism or 2 about this episode. Early on it jumps in to the character assassination of season 8 Dany. Rather than calling for a trial for Jamie Dany should, while not liking him, be curious about where the rest of his army is-which was promised. Cersei was offered a truce. Jamie shows up as being the only 1 to honor that. Even if she didn't like that he killed the Mad King (something the actual Daenerys got over long ago) she would know now is not the time (it would be violating the truce she sacrificed a lot to offer in the 1st place to 1 of the few to honor it and potentially sacrifice himself in return).
Also the trial was done to make Sansafinger (called that because she is arguably not the Sansa character of early seasons of proper GoT but actually a developing Cersei 2.0) and Bran look better. However it is arguably a bit of evidence for "evil Bran theory" that Bran planned the burning of King's Landing to get both Jon and Dany out of his way. This part is if Jamie dies in Winterfell for trying to kill a Stark (long ago but still, this is attempted murder of a Stark) then Tyrion cannot blame Dany as much for that. But if Jamie dies in King's Landing it motivates Tyrion to turn on season 8 Dany. Now even with "evil Bran theory" season 8 is an illogical mess but it still makes more sense than it would otherwise.
One my favorite episodes.
Weirdly I find that game of thrones is at it's worst in quality when they focus on action (specifically in the back half of the show)
Imagine how great this episode could have been with competent show runners and writers.. Sadge.. I still did enjoy this episode but I don't think I'm alone in saying the quality of the show was absolute dog shit at this point.
"Needed to slow down, it was rushed" is what I'm hearing. Fair enough. The author felt the same way, he wanted it stretched over more episodes. Nothing wrong with that. I enjoyed S8 and stand by it. I can't stand the whining from people who didn't like the twists and turns the story ultimately took. THATS THE ENDING OF THE STORY. Would you take a physical book back to the shop because you didnt like the end? No. That's the end of the story. Maybe it could have been stretched out longer over more episodes, that's the only thing I will concede was wrong. But hey at this point it had been on our screens for like 10 years nearly so we all knew the show well enough to round it off at this point in our minds and had a desire to just know how it all ends. (And please dont pour hate on me just because I liked it.)
Nah... saying 'it was rushed' is a form of cope. There's very little that could be added that wouldn't simply be extra padding. Moreover, the fast pace is the point. It shows us that events are spiraling away from Dany. It also shows us the urgency of making the morally right choices. Jon has perhaps that one chance where Dany has her guard down, celebrating alone in her victory, before she consolidates her power or starts viewing even him with the same mistrust she had for Tyrion and Varys.
'No, [Sansa and Arya don't have a choice], but you do, and you have to chose now!'
@@SerbAtheist Yeah the decisions that had to be made in the story was great to put to viewers and almost make them also decide so quickly what was the right thing to do in the circumstances. I think thats why people feel alot of division about the season, some people would have made different choices if they were in the story, and thats fine too. People are ungrateful and forget sometimes they were treated to many seasons of superb story, effects and acting and are so quick to throw things away when it doesnt suit them anymore.
@@oldcaptainjack "THATS THE ENDING OF THE STORY." Not really. Its ignoring paths the story opened up plus its own characters and logic in general to slack on an ending that may belong to a different story. The earlier plan for season 8 itself was for wildfire to wreck King's Landing and that was changed as season 8 was being made. That means the show writers were just playing around with stuff at the last minute rather than thinking about the story that had actually been made that viewers were waiting to see a conclusion to.
@@pplr1 First I've heard of it. It's impossible trying to negotiate with people who hated the ending, no matter what you say you just get told you're wrong. It pains me the way the show is dissed because I loved the whole thing and wanted it to go down, as it should, as one of the best shows ever made. Breaks my heart that people are so quick to drag it through the mud now.
I LOVED this episode, but I also loved Beyond The Wall… and thoroughly enjoyed s7 & s8! I get that they rushed, but it still told the necessary story! 🤷🏻♂️ I’m happy to die on this hill.