'Mad' Teddy Smith worked for British intelligence and was spying on the twins. They never killed him; he emigrated to Australia. How come I know that and this so-called Kray driver doesn't?
Outside London the Richardsons were unheard of. The Krays would of been also except for famous portraits of them by David Bailey. It was Bailey who made the Krays.
@@billyandrew of course they would have been known to other villain who occasionally done business with them but that's not being famous I agree with the guy about David Bailey making them famous. He was the world's top fashion photographer at the time he photographed tock rock stars and super model's and royalty any one photographed by him would end up getting their name in the paper
So this guy lost respect for the krays when they stabbed Mickey Morris, but when they were bumming young boys he just turned a blind eye and didn't lose respect for them?
Wasn't old Frosty supposed to have been done in by the Krays in the 1960s according to police informants - the Teale brothers? He looks well....considering. I think he actually finally passed away in 2016. RIP Frosty. So much for the Teales' evidence.
@@Ironz89 I think the Teales wrote their books just to justify their grassing and to help them get over the fact that Ronnie bummed two of them not to mention getting a few quid
@mugwump you're right the whole true crime thing is an industry these days old villains writing about and making documentaries. I can't blame them for making a few quid without putting themselves on offer but like you say you have to take what they say with a big piece of salt
He was on iffy ground from the off. Says the other two guys, with Mickey and his mate, had the cash from the tickle and, because the guys didn't look after their wives, the twins got involved. Who wasn't looking after their wives...Mickey and his pal or the other two guys? And it was defo the Beggar! Proper 2 & 8, that story. Smh.
I didn't notice him say Ronnie shot Cornell in the grave maurice he stalks about meeting Reg in they used the GM much more than the Beggars but it's pretty common knowledge that the shooting happened in the BB
Verry strange every time we hear about the Cornell murder its a different version scotch jack Dickson was ronnies driver that night and they wer in the Merry Widows pub not the green dragon as billy says
@@Third_I_1878 yes and he says so.they were in the grave maurice there pub someone said cornells in the beggar two hundred yards away. ronnie jack driving and barrie went past the pub recognised his car and went and picked up the shooters from the widows when they had hidden them in case they got spun over the mr smiths fight they went to the beggar ronnie and barrie went in barrie fired a shot in the air ronnie killed cornell
Makes no sense. Mickey and his pal lose out on the cash, the other two guys get caught and, because the other two didn't give their wives anything, Mickey and his pal become targets of the twins? Ffs, I've heard it all. Smh. That aside, the guy made valid points and I'd have liked to have heard more from him.
MICK MC It wasn't the merry widows the window's was the nickname of one of their regular pubs because the landlady was a widow who took over the running of the pub after her husband died it could have been the green dragon lots a pubs in those days were known locally by the name of the person that owned or ran it
Like the man said, he doubts if they'd have been as successful, if they were born in modern times. Too many guns available to too many folk willing to use them, nowadays.
@@billyandrew m8 your having a laugh & dont know what tge fuck your talkung about .Everybody had guns in the 60s they was everywhere .every other house had a shotgun .Also slashings with razors was the norm .your talking complete shit how old are you 20s???
@Billy Andrews you're right there were plenty of guns about in the years after the war but they weren't often used. Whenever they were it made the front pages: Ginger Marks Cornell,Harry Roberts etc. The scenes in Rise of the Krays showing the twins regularly carrying guns in shoulder holsters are nonsense they weren't stupid they knew they were under constant surveillance and old bill would have loved to catch them in possession the same in the first film "the Krays" where they shoot up a pub with machine guns total bollocks. They had access to all sorts but they didn't routinely carry guns like some characters in an American TV series
People didn't say anything to the twins when they were alive just like Hitler and stalin people didn't say much to them when they also were alive could it be the latter were two nice decent guys as well as the krays.
Absolutely love old school villains.... Such a shame things changed and we know longer have them in society anymore. The world was a safer place it seems.
any videos that contribute money to the Kray family firm i will not subscribe to , i appreciate the stories and as one person described the Krays they were certainly not the captain of their ship...they did not take care of those who did the killings or beatings for them so they wouldnt go to jail. a real gangster took care of their own...so i didnt consider them gangsters...just wannabes . but for any person that had to work hard for little money and little recognition i will subscribe to, but not to any Kray families. please let me know who you are that got the short end of the stick from these guys called the krays.
They loved the notoriety, and mixed in show-biz and Toff circles a bit too much to be taken seriously, after a while they felt that they had to live up to their own image, they had created a monster that they couldn`t control. They were pathetic really. I feel sorry for the many victims who were working hard to provide for their families, building a future through brains and sheer hard graft only to find these clowns demanding their cut, or else.
@@Parseenfroo In my opinion the government are the bigger villains, they're really not much different to the twins, they have all the instruments of the state at their disposal to make sure they always get their cut
You can tell in Billy's face that he was making up most of this interview. He says twice that he lost a lot of respect for the krays but lived with Ronnie for 4 months just after Ron killed George Cornell
I know I'm only fawty, but I remember when I was in the firm,me and reg got up to aw sawts I can tell ya we use uset to go fa cockaws and mussaws and jellied iws dahn the docks.fackin marvlass tiam. we got up to sum riat caypas I can tell ya.
Kevin Carpenter ... wotcha!! Well me mavvas in a right 2 n 8 as it goes sanshine, er strawberrys givin er jip! As fa me , I ain't so little no mowa u fackin toby, wen I c u next daan the battlecruiser I'm gonna give your boat a slap!
Terry Dacktill ark at it.aaah dare ya.ya gobby little toe rag.if yaw grandad could ear you talk liak that he'd turn in his grave gawd rest his soul.nah,keep yer norf shut and learn sum fackin mannas.
today is a different era. there is dna testing...tiny cameras and small voice devices. you cant compare to then and now., if some local dude was put back then he would not be able to win at a brawl fight. those men/boys back then were so street smart over half of them didnt need weapons,...just their fists. so your comment doesnt make sense,. with all due respect, remember, 90 percent if the boys back then took boxing, not sit on couch playing video games.
You can say hello to ask schizophrenic and get killed when their off meds never mind calling him a fat puff still too many lives lost and this still goes on today and always will unfortunately
say what you like about them they never hurt women and children and most of the time they stuck to there own the criminals to day dont care who they hurt rip ron and reg
Ralda-May Marshall yep Ave also heard something similar aswel what a herd was reg had knifed and apparently killed ronnies boyfriend and for that years later Ronnie retaliated by doing Francis with gear, but who no's what's true and what's pork pies
Billy keeps it 💯. Respect bill stay safe
'Mad' Teddy Smith worked for British intelligence and was spying on the twins. They never killed him; he emigrated to Australia. How come I know that and this so-called Kray driver doesn't?
You know it because you read it in a book
met this guy in the carpenters arms cheshire st... sounded good to me very likable guy
david dickinson ffs
david dickinson aye I agree with that,but not yer team,A,deen,
A likeable thug what a twisted world you live in
Stephen Mcphail
STAND FREE
Bloke, not guy.
Outside London the Richardsons were unheard of. The Krays would of been also except for famous portraits of them by David Bailey. It was Bailey who made the Krays.
They were known in Glasgow, through Arthur Thompson, who did business with them.
@@billyandrew of course they would have been known to other villain who occasionally done business with them but that's not being famous I agree with the guy about David Bailey making them famous. He was the world's top fashion photographer at the time he photographed tock rock stars and super model's and royalty any one photographed by him would end up getting their name in the paper
Being unheard of is the goal id have thought
'Would OF been....'!!??? How about 'Would'VE been.........'. We're not talking about a MENSA candidate here.
So this guy lost respect for the krays when they stabbed Mickey Morris, but when they were bumming young boys he just turned a blind eye and didn't lose respect for them?
Yes
Either very confused or let's say spinning the story, Ron killed Cornell because Cornell beat the fuck out of Ron a few weeks earlier in a fist fight,
That's what I heard
Which only came out 20 years after the Krays were dead??
Reggie was the most violent?
Wasn't old Frosty supposed to have been done in by the Krays in the 1960s according to police informants - the Teale brothers? He looks well....considering. I think he actually finally passed away in 2016. RIP Frosty. So much for the Teales' evidence.
Teale brothers are full of shit they only started speaking about the twins once they’d been dead 15 years
@@Ironz89 q
@@Ironz89
I think the Teales wrote their books just to justify their grassing and to help them get over the fact that Ronnie bummed two of them not to mention getting a few quid
@mugwump you're right the whole true crime thing is an industry these days old villains writing about and making documentaries. I can't blame them for making a few quid without putting themselves on offer but like you say you have to take what they say with a big piece of salt
They had a code of conduct...today's scum pick on the vulnerable and weak.
I thought it was Leslie Holt who introduced Ronnie to Lord Boothby ?
I think Ronnie introduced Lord Boothby to Leslie Holt,
@@derekmullings1507 I see
its not ron and reg kray.Its ron and reg gay
That’s not Ronnie rent boy doing the interview
He's saying it was the grave morice Ron shot George Cornell was it not the blind beggar?
Ye it was in the beggers
He was on iffy ground from the off.
Says the other two guys, with Mickey and his mate, had the cash from the tickle and, because the guys didn't look after their wives, the twins got involved.
Who wasn't looking after their wives...Mickey and his pal or the other two guys?
And it was defo the Beggar!
Proper 2 & 8, that story.
Smh.
He says they saw Cornell's car outside the beggars then went and got a gun then he looses track and goes back to talking about the grave maurice
I didn't notice him say Ronnie shot Cornell in the grave maurice he stalks about meeting Reg in they used the GM much more than the Beggars but it's pretty common knowledge that the shooting happened in the BB
It looks like everyone hated and lost a lot of respect but no one said a thing until they died though
More like they lost respect for the twins drawing attention to the gravy train.
Nobody ever told Adolf Hitler or Saddam Hussein that they were fucking nutters when they were still alive;does that mean they were wrong
seems like a nice enough chap tho.....very wise u can see as well that he's seen alot
TrueTrueThat(FactsBe) !
From 3:58 upto 4:03 did anyone notice he says reggie said to me you've got to drive me and reggie, think he mean ron 😂
Lots of confusion at the start of the vid.
That’s my uncle lol funny old world when you find out ya family had kept information like your uncle was a gangster lol
Verry strange every time we hear about the Cornell murder its a different version scotch jack Dickson was ronnies driver that night and they wer in the Merry Widows pub not the green dragon as billy says
Might be a different shooting ?
+Mick McGuire i thought it was the blind beggar pub.
@@Third_I_1878 yes and he says so.they were in the grave maurice there pub someone said cornells in the beggar two hundred yards away. ronnie jack driving and barrie went past the pub recognised his car and went and picked up the shooters from the widows when they had hidden them in case they got spun over the mr smiths fight they went to the beggar ronnie and barrie went in barrie fired a shot in the air ronnie killed cornell
The pub wasn't called the merry widow's it was just nicknamed the widow's because he landlady was a widow
@@michaelharrison3602 that's right it was called the lion
Is this actually from the upload date or is it much older, if older then how long ago? :)
Bengrandtheft4 Was from an interview 3\4 years ago
***** interview him again he's good to listen to
So why was it uploaded this year, just curious
This was filmed about 5 years ago
+Liam Galvin steve wraith will get were water couldn't
Not another Kray driver
6.32 "Walked into the Grave Maurice and shot him in the head," Blind Beggar no?
Yeah. You're right. I'm not sure that Frosty has all his marbles anymore
Makes no sense.
Mickey and his pal lose out on the cash, the other two guys get caught and, because the other two didn't give their wives anything, Mickey and his pal become targets of the twins?
Ffs, I've heard it all.
Smh.
That aside, the guy made valid points and I'd have liked to have heard more from him.
MICK MC It wasn't the merry widows the window's was the nickname of one of their regular pubs because the landlady was a widow who took over the running of the pub after her husband died it could have been the green dragon lots a pubs in those days were known locally by the name of the person that owned or ran it
People slagging them off now they gone like to see them do it if still around
Like the man said, he doubts if they'd have been as successful, if they were born in modern times.
Too many guns available to too many folk willing to use them, nowadays.
@@billyandrew m8 your having a laugh & dont know what tge fuck your talkung about .Everybody had guns in the 60s they was everywhere .every other house had a shotgun .Also slashings with razors was the norm .your talking complete shit how old are you 20s???
Gabrielle I'd like to have seen someone have a go at Osama bin laden when he was alive
@Billy Andrews you're right there were plenty of guns about in the years after the war but they weren't often used. Whenever they were it made the front pages: Ginger Marks Cornell,Harry Roberts etc. The scenes in Rise of the Krays showing the twins regularly carrying guns in shoulder holsters are nonsense they weren't stupid they knew they were under constant surveillance and old bill would have loved to catch them in possession the same in the first film "the Krays" where they shoot up a pub with machine guns total bollocks. They had access to all sorts but they didn't routinely carry guns like some characters in an American TV series
People nowadays would ave eaten them for breakfast.
People didn't say anything to the twins when they were alive just like Hitler and stalin people didn't say much to them when they also were alive could it be the latter were two nice decent guys as well as the krays.
Yes I've heard Joe Stalin was always good to his old mum and Hitler always had a lovely shine on his boots
Steve wraith interviewing with Liam
Krays driver Billy Frost not another one
Absolutely love old school villains.... Such a shame things changed and we know longer have them in society anymore. The world was a safer place it seems.
Are you some kind of idiot?
@@j04370859 A big, hairy kind.
any videos that contribute money to the Kray family firm i will not subscribe to , i appreciate the stories and as one person described the Krays they were certainly not the captain of their ship...they did not take care of those who did the killings or beatings for them so they wouldnt go to jail. a real gangster took care of their own...so i didnt consider them gangsters...just wannabes . but for any person that had to work hard for little money and little recognition i will subscribe to, but not to any Kray families. please let me know who you are that got the short end of the stick from these guys called the krays.
They loved the notoriety, and mixed in show-biz and Toff circles a bit too much to be taken seriously, after a while they felt that they had to live up to their own image, they had created a monster that they couldn`t control.
They were pathetic really.
I feel sorry for the many victims who were working hard to provide for their families, building a future through brains and sheer hard graft only to find these clowns demanding their cut, or else.
@@Parseenfroo
In my opinion the government are the bigger villains, they're really not much different to the twins, they have all the instruments of the state at their disposal to make sure they always get their cut
@@BillSikes. I think you make a fair point Strake, I can`t argue with that.
A lot of people don't realise that reggie was actually christened Ronnie and Ronnie was christened reggie , and they were in fact just old friends
Put down the crack pipe
You're away with the birds (prehistoric, as I see what you did there), but funny as fcuk!
😂😂😂
I'm not going to remember much from this video. His massive hair-bogie is very distracting.
billy you know you wouldnt have when the krays were on the streets. so dont
good luck
You can tell in Billy's face that he was making up most of this interview. He says twice that he lost a lot of respect for the krays but lived with Ronnie for 4 months just after Ron killed George Cornell
I know I'm only fawty, but I remember when I was in the firm,me and reg got up to aw sawts I can tell ya we use uset to go fa cockaws and mussaws and jellied iws dahn the docks.fackin marvlass tiam. we got up to sum riat caypas I can tell ya.
+John Brighton ello John,ow ya doin treacaw?I ain't seen ya since that tickaw dahn beffnaw green.gaw luv a duck.
Well woodjew fackin adam n eve it ... its me owld china kevvy carp.
Terry Dacktill gaw blimey luv a duck,it's little tel from beffnaw green.i ain't seen ya in donkeys years.ahhs yor old mum gawd bless her.
Kevin Carpenter ... wotcha!! Well me mavvas in a right 2 n 8 as it goes sanshine, er strawberrys givin er jip! As fa me , I ain't so little no mowa u fackin toby, wen I c u next daan the battlecruiser I'm gonna give your boat a slap!
Terry Dacktill ark at it.aaah dare ya.ya gobby little toe rag.if yaw grandad could ear you talk liak that he'd turn in his grave gawd rest his soul.nah,keep yer norf shut and learn sum fackin mannas.
bring back the luftwaffe..that will sort out east end
Pmsl.
Mug
Push your dentures in properly and sober up!
AND THIS IS WHAT YOU GOT FROM THE VIDEO. YOUR ATTENTION IS SHORT. I BET YOU CANT KEEP A JOB DOWN
@@bananka4905 I can keep a job down better than Billy Frost!
@graham moore
Ffs, that's twice you've made that comment, so it's obvious he got up your nose.
🙄🤔😂
I noticed that to 🤣
I liked the interview tho
'Had no principles......' - lol !!!!
Whys that funny
@@bn.z_x eeeh because none of them did u toby
A nobody using his name to betray the Krays.
Easy to be brave and slag off your bosses when there dead.
Sounds like piers Morgan interviewing
billy your goin in the trotters van
Very good friend of mine
What ever happened to loyalty
They wouldn't last five minutes today
today is a different era. there is dna testing...tiny cameras and small voice devices. you cant compare to then and now., if some local dude was put back then he would not be able to win at a brawl fight. those men/boys back then were so street smart over half of them didnt need weapons,...just their fists. so your comment doesnt make sense,. with all due respect, remember, 90 percent if the boys back then took boxing, not sit on couch playing video games.
@@bananka4905 Dude?
@@Parseenfroo ? Dude.? No...lol
@@bananka4905 I couldn`t help myself Anna, sorry. It`s just so American that it sounds out of place on this video.
*John Martin*
That's more or less what Frosty said at the end.
You can say hello to ask schizophrenic and get killed when their off meds never mind calling him a fat puff still too many lives lost and this still goes on today and always will unfortunately
George had a death wish and jack wished he had hair,,,, live by the sword due by the sword
yet another load of bs from billy frost
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Porky pies
please speak english for frigs sake.
He is...perfect English. You foreigners need to listen.
great era wish could go back to it. Only their own kind got hurt or those that came looking for it. unlike the wanabees roaming the streets now .
dont be a twat they hurt anyone who got in their way they didnt give a shit about anyone
And what about the little boys they hurt? Google it.
They're both on the "pedophile data base Uk and Northern Irland"
Phil Green
Northern Ireland is in the UK
Northern Ireland is a Full Part Of The UK.
say what you like about them they never hurt women and children and most of the time they stuck to there own the criminals to day dont care who they hurt rip ron and reg
Bot23 ronnie was the one who killed francis.
Ralda-May Marshall yep Ave also heard something similar aswel what a herd was reg had knifed and apparently killed ronnies boyfriend and for that years later Ronnie retaliated by doing Francis with gear, but who no's what's true and what's pork pies
Oh fuck off they beat their women up just as much and didnt give a shit about hurting anyone who got in their way
*Shanni-Leigh Boobear*
Try telling that to the sisters of Frankie Mitchell.
Smh.
No they didn't.