TH-cam has officially become my main source of (meager) income and I've taken it on full-time. You may not notice more uploads but from my perspective I'm hoping you'll notice a rise in overall video quality. It took me roughly 120 hours over 10 days (3 normal work weeks) to create this video. So PLEASE, share this video, hit the LIKE button if you enjoyed it and please leave a comment. These factors help out tremendously and would be greatly appreciated. Thank you to all my longtime fans and thank you for watching.
Excellent work! :) I know how long and time-consuming it can be to edit a video, so kudos to you on producing high quality videos that capture the lore of Destiny; arguably better than the Grimoire has done to date. Just out of curiousity, is the lore in this video based on Grimoire excerpts and expanded upon by yourself? If you pieced it all together, you did one hell of a job! I've learnt more about the event of Crota in 15 minutes compared with hours playing the actual game. All the best with your TH-cam endeavour and wish you loads of success because its well-deserved!
Destiny is shit. Your video is shit. Your voice is annoying. The video quality is poor. The storyline for destiny caters to 10 year olds. Lol. Goodluck, fuckboy.
Dylan B views aren't updated constantly. He's got over a thousand likes while views appear much lower, and 70k subscribers. Learn how TH-cam works before being an even bigger idiot than you already are by trying to troll him. Sad life you must live to start shit on TH-cam. Destiny would be an improvement for your miserable shit life. Fucking loser.
This is a definitely a strong slap to the face of those who said Destiny was lacking of story. Maybe it's lacking of a good storytelling (yeah, maybe that's right) but there's something certainly good in its community (thanks for sharing this, TerraMantis), its lore and its gameplay. Good work! Now you should take a rest to recover... before bringing more. :)
Still lacks a story. It has lore and even that they did bad. Bungie is stupid, or they are really smart, because they knew a lot of people would still buy it and defend it no matter what.
sheepfly Bungie has people defend their games because they like them, just because you feel that this game was bad doesn't mean that everyone should too, you complaints are ignorant and your argument is pathetic, if you want to try to prove some sort of point don't say "bungie is stupid", come on are you 5?
Ah yes, the nostalgia. Honestly this aged like a fine wine. I still look forward to the day that TerraMantis decides to make a video based on the Books of Sorrow.
Hello, TerraMantis. I've known of this video for some time, and I've watched the Moon Ride Along in which you were the guest. I finally took the time to view your work, and I want to congratulate you on a fine display of writing and editing. The Hive, being straightforwardly evil, have been the least interesting enemy to me, but you have presented the lore of Crota in a most compelling manner. You have motivated me to explore Hive and Moon lore with a fresh eye. The recognition you have received for this is richly deserved.
Love you vids Wallen, but as you know, the dark souls community has very theatrical lore vids. And while yours are great, I would love for you to do more theatrical lore video's as well. I sometimes get lost with whats going on in the gameplay on screen I stop listening to you speak, but I love to watch a video with my lore too. I think you could really benefit having a visual representation of what your explaining. Planet destiny is the shit too BTW.
Sir Wallen - Lore Seeker Thanks man, I appreciate it. Apparently I'm not the first one to start doing Destiny lore. I didn't know that, but now that I've made this video I've heard quite a lot about you. Your library is quite extensive to say the least, and that's good because people are hungry for Destiny lore and they'll starve if they wait on my slow ass.
Bravo! Very well done! I especially loved the way you put together the 3 queens. This was a very enjoyable watch, even for someone who hadn't completed Destiny. You've become such a master at your craft - all of that time spent was definitely worth it.
I hope you continue the lore videos. This was one of the best I've seen that actually considers the philosophical considerations of just what the darkness is exactly.
two small corrections, at the beginning you said the golden age was preceded by the collapse, it's actually succeeded. the other is when your talking about eris you show a warlock, she's actually a hunter. if you look at the cloak she's wearing, it's the same one she gives you if you are a hunter when you complete her quest line. your videos are fucking awesome man, keep up the great work
Awesome work mate. You have a natural flair for story telling and using imagery available. As a great fan of destiny, this adds texture and richness to the gameplay. Great job. Thanks.
This video's quality was through the roof. It shows that you put so much effort into it. But Terra, we have a problem. I like these videos so much I've started to crave them. I need more! Seriously, though, your Destiny vids are as awesome as your Souls vids. I hope you have more material for Destiny. I'd love to hear your take on The Vault of Glass and what the Vex are trying to achieve within it. I know you touched on it before, but that just can't compare to a dedicated video like this one :D
This is an amazing video I am really impressed with the depth you managed to distill into the universe of Destiny, and can only regret that Bungie did not manage to convey it themselves. Your writing style, and vocabulary is inspiring. The obvious research you did at the periphery of the game and mythos makes this video so much more than a gaming video. Respect!
Just want to say, Mantis, before the inevitable whiners and complainers get here (hey, you saw the comments on the trailer), that you're awesome and Destiny is pretty awesome too. I love that, in both this and Dark Souls, the darkness is not just the absence of light, but a tangible thing.
This is what Bungie needed to do. They should have implanted this mythological lore into the game, people like TerraMantis should have been writers for the game. This video that he has produced gives the game a sense of depth and make you feel like you are pushing the "bigger meaning" along. This makes it evident that we, "the fans", need to come up with these well crafted stories to elevate the overall game feel. The overall lore in Destiny doesn't paint a picture of the past nor the present. I'd like to thank TerraMantis and many others that have tried to build lore into the game externally.
The quality of your narrative and story telling is way better than most games and movies I've seen (and they are A LOT). Awesome job, Man :) your work is appreciated and treasured.
In terms of gameplay, Destiny is tedious and boring. Had any of the story been in-game, it would have been better. The way you give us the story terra, it's just as interesting as dark souls lore. Great vid despite the game itself lacking
Same thoughts here. If they AT LEAST put a way to read grimoire entries in game, Destiny would have been much more enjoyable. I lost all interest in the game after two weeks
Epicloser10391 finally, a comment that isnt ignorant. I like the game, its just me tho. Love the grind, gameplay and repetitive game style, im an rpg guy. But its an acquired taste, not every one will.
Destiny felt more like a game I had to put work into rather than a grind. In some aspects it'd grindy as fuck, but other than those parts (marks, engrams, etc.) I feel like I'm rewarded for putting time and effort into it.
I never leave comments and I can't recall ever "liking" a video, but I'm doing both as well as subscribing. I love this game and I really enjoy the lore, but you've given me more information that I thought existed about Destiny and your delivery was spectacular.
I feel like Bungie is making a Gurren Lagann like story. The dark (anti-spiral) comes to crush the light (spiral) before it understands its true potential. The Hive uses the moon as a base of operation (much like the anti-spiral). Humans can't live on the surface because the fallen patrol the surface (much like the beast men) and humans are force to live in a secluded city. As long as the final DLC includes a gun that shoots drills I'll be happy!
I have no idea what to say to this, I love your idea that much. Hell, make the barrel a drill that fires energy bolts, a hand cannon for dat impact and firepower. Name: Spiral Buster/ Spiral Breaker (or something better, I can't think of one currently) Description: "If there's a wall in our way, we knock it down. If there isn't a path, we pave one ourselves." Has a mod for special armor piercing or multi-enemy-damaging bullets, called "Pierce the Heavens." This would make my day :D Edit: after seeing the Thorn hand cannon that fires rather large dart-things... yeah shooting drills would be much more awesome than energy bolts :D
MrTorgue Flexington ASA g urren Lagann fan i find this connection to be EPIC! And im a big sucker for the kind of story Destiny and Gurren Lagann tell too. Now i feel like listening to the Gurren Lagann Soundtrack as i play Destiny :3
Krazy Stargazer Especially during one of the raids. Charging towards Crota with a sword during the final chorus of the Gurran Lagann theme would be EPIC :D
Your videos have been helping me learn a lot about the pieces of story that were only vaguely explained by the game itself. You took time to research grimoire cards, NPC interactions, and other forms of media to deliver a very easy-to-understand and very entertaining presentation. Seriously, well done :)
***** We don't know, I'm really hoping Toland and Osiris make a show at some point in the franchise. I think it's very likely for Osiris since they've already got a voice actor for him, he reads from a log that your ghost finds when entering a mission. That alone makes me think Osiris will be a more influential character at some point.
TerraMantis I really hope so, Vex are my favorite opponent in the game, so mysterious... We know how much Toland was fascinated by the Hive, leading him to madness. But Osiris seems less obsessed by the Vex, more like curious. And he is most likely alive imo, the Disciple casts doubt.
DANTVSVERGIL We know that he is not dead. Does that mean he is alive ? I don't think so. Warlocks are known to drive themself into madness, archiving knowledge more powerful than death itself. Maybe he is in a far superior state than alive or dead, in some sort of a stasis. Osiris specifically studied Vex, time travelers. Maybe he discovered their secret?
***** Who knows all that we know of Osiris is that he's not "dead". Luke Smith was in an "interview" where he was asked a bunch of questions and he had too answer them quickly and one of the questions was "Is Osiris dead?" and his answer was "No" and we also know that the Titan that was found dead outside the Temple of Crota was not apart of Eris' fireteam.
I have to say, I am an avid Destiny player, I do the Crota raid weekly, as well as VoG, I've played through the story several times just to grab onto what the hell is actually going on. I've watched the 10 things you don't know about Destiny videos (all three) and I know more about the game now than I did previously, in an hour. These videos are amazing, I love them and I cannot wait to see more of it. I really, really appreciate the time and effort you put into your videos, your dedication is astounding and doesn't go unnoticed. Thank you. Count me as a sub!
I love your videos man your one of my favorite you tubers, nice job with the video btw. And i really wish i could help you money wise but in only 14 :(
Man this is my umpteenth time watching this. Can't seem to get enough of it. It's just so well put together. The music the reading of the grimore is just in point to me. Keep content like this coming please
Do you think that in the Comet expansion the final boss in the speculated raid on a hive ship will be Oryx? It is speculation but it is reasonable to expect that we might eventually encounter Oryx, what do you think?
Possibly. It is a huge expansion. You can expect anything from bungle. But i think the crota saga is over in my opinon. BTW It's moaz796. I changed my name
One weekend, while chilling next to Xur, I heard him say, "Your Traveler has a dark mirror." This got me thinking about the Shrine of Oryx mission wherein you destroy the black globe after killing Sardok. Could Oryx be like the Traveler, only a dark version? After all, religious shrines usually make an image of their God....
ControlledChaos999 Very true, but what about Eris? We know her group did have a sword. Also, wouldn't they be able to make him kneel? They could just use their rockets and he'd be down. Sure, they wouldn't be able to kill him, but they would've escaped at least.
no, they knew that the sword was the key, but their party fell apart way before hand, their titan was killed by a wizard after all. who knows what the fuck happened to toland.
Absolutely mind blowing story of Crota through the lore of Destiny. You can tell they really paid attention to the Grimoire, Eris' ramblings, the story laid out in the quests. Beautifully edited with excellent music to boot.
This is where games need to be to tell their stories. Destiny as a game is flawed. I've heard stories about infighting among the staff Bungie, and there is conclusive evidence to state that _something_ happened. Joe Staten left the company, and he's been there since before Halo: Combat Evolved. He's the one who likely wrote all the lore, and with him gone, they had to cobble bits and pieces together. That's why there is inconsistencies in the lore and the grimoire. Marty O'Donnell was fired, for unknown reasons. The composer who has been there as long as Staten. I don't know what happened, but it saddens me that it likely had a negative impact on the game. However, the storytelling in this game is in the right direction. It's been made abundantly clear to me that people don't understand the way games are meant to tell their stories. The best way for a game to tell a story, is to not tell it at all. A game is not a movie, or a book. It is not a passive experience. The player should go about gathering the story themselves. Not every game has to play by these rules. But in my opinion, by not doing it, they only cheapen themselves by copying the formulas from other mediums. Mediums which do it *far* better than games. That Crota, what he means to the Hive, and the way in which the players go about destroying him, is so interesting and complex only speaks to the power of storytelling only games can achieve. No other medium could tell a story like that, in this way. Flawed though it may be, Destiny understands how stories in games should be told.
People seem to have real trouble distinguishing story from narrative. I also think Bungie over-estimated how used their companion app would be. The figured people use smart phones constantly now, so they'll have them right there to interact with the game at all times, get a grimoire card in-game and instantly look it up and read about it. Really, they should have put all that in the game. Let you pull up a menu, read the lore.
X1 KILLA Most people I know never even bothered to download their app, or if they did didn't think it had much use. You can't really do very much from it, aside from look at what vendors are selling, and what the weekly activities are. Out of the 5 people I usually play with, I'm the only one who's actually read through the grimoire cards because I find it interesting, I've never heard anyone else say "hey, I just unlocked a grimoire card, hold up a sec while I load it up and check it out".
Incredible job. After watching that I'm speakless. Amazing work. I look forward to what comes next! I'll show this to anyone saying destiny has no story. So much lore packed into a few missions, a strike and a raid. Again amazing job!:-)
Very well made, but there is no evidence to suggest that Toland, The Shattered was among Eris's raid group and there is abundant evidence in the Grimiore that he is still alive and Eris Morn knows his location, but thus far has refused to disclose it despite the Vanguard(excluding Ikora Rey)and the Speaker's insistence that she do so, and as we still do not know the Speaker, or the Travelers true intentions who can blam her. I for one, look forward to the release of a Destiny game in which Toland, The Shattered finally makes an Appearance. We may even see this or a lead up to this in the Wolves Den dlc. I tend to believe that if he's hiding from the city, but still helping from afar than he is hiding out in the Reef and yes, the Queen most definitely knows that he is there and simply lets him be and lets him do his experiments in Hive Arcana to learn more from him. Good vid. This is my take on Toland. Cheers.
There is most definitely 100% no doubt that Toland was part of the group that went with Eriana and Eris. Also, I never said Toland was dead, I said he was never seen again. I like to think Toland is still alive as well, same with Osiris, the original Warlock badass who fought and studied the Hive and then disappeared too.
Stop fighting! The grimoire cards suggest that Toland WAS in the fireteam, but they also suggest that he is still alive. It would only make sense that Toland survived if Eris did. He knew much more than she.
ERIS, ingame, is the only source that says that she was the only survivor(Grimoire says that she refuses to disclose his location instead), The Grimoire, however points in a different direction, that being that Toland is in hiding. Now go crawl in your hole Troll.
TerraMantis I've had a chance to read more since commenting and it does seem like he was there leading the Fireteam along with Osiris due to their advanced knowledge of Hive Arcana. I do believe them both to be alive and at least one of them to be in the Reef. I really do want them to make an appearance.
Good question. This is just speculation but I have one of two possible answers. 1. That's not Crota in the trailer (it's totally Crota though) 2. The Knight in the trailer is in the Hellmouth on the Moon, perhaps he maintains a different appearance when he becomes physical in the real world. When we encounter him in the Crota's End raid, we're inside his world-mind. It could be that's just how he projects his appearance there.
TerraMantis Thanks! Also, what do you think Crota's Oversoul actually is? Since we never find out what that thing could possibly be, is it a star? Crota's soul manifested? Let me know if you have any theories on it, thanks!
Tahu Master Of Fire I'm pretty sure there's a grimoire card that says what the oversoul is to some degree. I don't remember the exact card but I'm pretty sure it's referred to as the husk of a dead star. This seems very interesting when considering some of the aspects of The Darkness grimoire cards which convey various guardians' theories about what The Darkness actually is (beside a plot device of course). One theory from a specific guardian states The Darkness is, in so many words, a blackhole that became sentient. In other words, a being that came into existence after a star collapsed. This seems fitting to me considering darkness cannot exist without light or vice-versa, seems only right that The Darkness be born of Light in some manner. It would also make sense then that The Hive, advocates of Darkness, would draw some type of power from the husk of a dead star which is the ultimate absence of light.
Tahu Master Of Fire probably a moon from a planet that the hive had captured and use it as a guardian to protect crota or any exalted hive member when they send spectral self to different parts of the universe
They are talking about the main story line the one you play not the one u have to go to a stupid website to find out, it has a terrible storyline but it has some great lore but it's not in the game
Seriously shouldn't Bungie be doing this? You know actually writing content and story?!?! Instead of giving us a totally boring and repetitive slog of a game full of game breaking bugs and broken updates?!?!?!
The amount of time and thought put into this video is astoundingly apparent...those who don't see how much effort you've put into this video need to look a little harder; brilliantly done sir...keep the videos coming!
Dude, this is absolutley BEAUTIFUL! You have a way of storytelling seldomly ever seen in most TH-cam videos or in general. BUNGIE are you listening? you need to fish this one! Keep up the awsome work! you sir have a fan!
Wow. I almost passed this video by when i saw it was 15 minutes but after the first 30 seconds i was hooked. Truly incredible work. Bungie should honestly consider picking you up as a writer; you told a better story in 15 minutes than they did in however long that measly campaign took. You definitely got a subscribe from me.
I was the Battlefield community manager for a couple years. I would have KILLED for a fan-made creation of this depth and quality. Keep it up, man. This is amazing.
Amazing! The Destiny lore is so rich and and I feel it was not explored deeply enough in the games campaign. Thank you for going to the effort of producing this so that we can better understand. I eagerly look forward to the next one.
Man I never comment on anything that I watch on TH-cam but on this one I must. This was truly an epic tale and that where you portray it is truly amazing. Great Job I hope to see more of your work. I only intended to play the dark below quest chain with one of my characters. But now I will be doing it again while I think of the backstory it will make it more meaningful. Thanks again
I'd just like to say. I've watched this video maybe 10 times. You did an excellent job putting the information together in a very understandable and interesting way. Thank you for the jem for destiny lore!
Dude, you've got to make more lore videos. The video was not only very enlightening on the lore of one of the toughest raid bosses, but the atmosphere set by the ambient background music helped make it rather engaging. 10/10, would watch again and would watch others like it.
Amazing job, Terra. For me, it is better to hear the story being told like this, rather than just reading bits from the grimoire. Keep up the great work. Looking forward to future videos!
I'm not a longtime fan, but I have to say that the amazing lore videos you post like these are the reason I plan on hitting the like button on many of your videos! I can't wait to see more Destiny lore videos since the game seems to really be lacking a good narrative. You've totally made me rethink my opinion on this dlc! :D Keep up the great work!
This is probably the best lore video I have seen. I am really excited for your next one, and please take your time. I hope it's even better that this one.
I only recently started watching your videos and I subbed after watching all of your ten things you didn't know about destiny. This video makes me like you even more. I love the way you present these things and how you don't over explain or over complicate whatever you do. I hope you get many more subs in the future they are all very very well deserved.
This takes destiny for me to a whole new level. Sure it doesn't have much on the surface, but if we all were to put in the time you did to understand all this, the lore is amazing. You were practically able to create a short film based on grimoir and storytelling. You also worked your ass off. Great job. Like shared and subscribed. Keep it up Steve!
I quit destiny 1 over the vanilla version, had no plans of returning. This video make me go back. I leveled up, went from no legendaries to a Lego in every spot, plus like 2 exotics. With that I finished the raid, and I've played destiny ever since. This video game me a story that game wasnt at that time.
Love the video an amazing take on the story of destiny. I truly believe videos like this is why there is so little story in the actual game. Bungie wants the community to piece the story together as a community. Great work
Holy crap that was awesome. I enjoy the idea of Grimoire (however you spell it) and the back story it provides. Sometimes it is clunky and annoying to use and hard to piece events together. Plus after too much reading my eyes bleed and my brain falls out my ears. So videos like this greatly appeal to me. Keep up the great work man. I'd loved to see many many more of these. Definitely subscribing.
I just watched this 2/23/2015 I have to say I was completely drawn in by your work. I loved how you used the different video clips to tell the story in the background. Your narrative was very insightful. I have always been a big fan of chronological order. I find that it helps to make a story become clear. I am going to check out you other videos on Destiny. I hope you make another one like this one. I loved it. Thank you for helping me to understand the story of Destiny a little better. I await more of your work on Destiny.
This was spectacular. I love how you take your time and go full on into the lore. I know this can all be found in the grim, but you do a dry nice job keeping it all together. I have read all of them and I understood them as I read them but these vids make mountains from loose soil in comparison.
My god that was nice to watch. If Destiny took time to put this in a cut scene through the game I bet there would be less complaining about content. Ill tell you TerraMantis, that was some good story telling.
Great video man.thanks for the history/lore check.this was great!your commentary was flawless,and you gave great formality and your vocabulary for this was on point.kudos to you sir.
Amazing, so glad to have a real storyline for all the work that goes into this game and the players that push through it. Love to see more, this needs to go Viral! Great work and great editing. It looks like a lot of reading and research went into this. cheers :)
DAAANG!! Dude, massive props! liked, and subscribed. this actually makes me enjoy the game even more, and you tell the story better than I ever expect the game to. wicked, man! purely wicked
TH-cam has officially become my main source of (meager) income and I've taken it on full-time. You may not notice more uploads but from my perspective I'm hoping you'll notice a rise in overall video quality.
It took me roughly 120 hours over 10 days (3 normal work weeks) to create this video. So PLEASE, share this video, hit the LIKE button if you enjoyed it and please leave a comment. These factors help out tremendously and would be greatly appreciated. Thank you to all my longtime fans and thank you for watching.
Thank you for this Video!! Where did Cayde-6 fit in all of this?. but seriously you made me want to Enlist to help Eris Morn!
I don't even plaz destinie and ist is still super awesome to watch your videos I hope you will get enough money because you deserve it:)
Excellent work! :) I know how long and time-consuming it can be to edit a video, so kudos to you on producing high quality videos that capture the lore of Destiny; arguably better than the Grimoire has done to date.
Just out of curiousity, is the lore in this video based on Grimoire excerpts and expanded upon by yourself? If you pieced it all together, you did one hell of a job! I've learnt more about the event of Crota in 15 minutes compared with hours playing the actual game.
All the best with your TH-cam endeavour and wish you loads of success because its well-deserved!
Destiny is shit. Your video is shit. Your voice is annoying. The video quality is poor. The storyline for destiny caters to 10 year olds.
Lol. Goodluck, fuckboy.
Dylan B views aren't updated constantly. He's got over a thousand likes while views appear much lower, and 70k subscribers. Learn how TH-cam works before being an even bigger idiot than you already are by trying to troll him. Sad life you must live to start shit on TH-cam. Destiny would be an improvement for your miserable shit life. Fucking loser.
Eris' team forgot to bring their Gjallarhorns with them.
Yeah, seriously XD
No they had them, they forgot the Heavy Ammo Syntheses
They also forgot their Defender Titan
Chester the Marvelous And I'm sure they forgot to make the swordbearer the host.
***** they didn't know about the cheese
Very happy to see my music like this in such a well made video. Thank you, and keep up the good work :)
Your music is mesmerizing
Whats the song called
Death Gun Exile by Magnus Tellmann
This is a definitely a strong slap to the face of those who said Destiny was lacking of story. Maybe it's lacking of a good storytelling (yeah, maybe that's right) but there's something certainly good in its community (thanks for sharing this, TerraMantis), its lore and its gameplay. Good work! Now you should take a rest to recover... before bringing more. :)
That is so true just because your too lazy to actually read the story doesn't mean there is no story
Destiny story is good. But I wish if it was actually in the game.
Still lacks a story. It has lore and even that they did bad. Bungie is stupid, or they are really smart, because they knew a lot of people would still buy it and defend it no matter what.
sheepfly How exactly is the lore bad?
sheepfly Bungie has people defend their games because they like them, just because you feel that this game was bad doesn't mean that everyone should too, you complaints are ignorant and your argument is pathetic, if you want to try to prove some sort of point don't say "bungie is stupid", come on are you 5?
Eris is that one kid who refuses to wipe.
Hahahaha. That was actually really good
Ah yes, the nostalgia. Honestly this aged like a fine wine. I still look forward to the day that TerraMantis decides to make a video based on the Books of Sorrow.
Hello, TerraMantis. I've known of this video for some time, and I've watched the Moon Ride Along in which you were the guest.
I finally took the time to view your work, and I want to congratulate you on a fine display of writing and editing.
The Hive, being straightforwardly evil, have been the least interesting enemy to me, but you have presented the lore of Crota in a most compelling manner.
You have motivated me to explore Hive and Moon lore with a fresh eye.
The recognition you have received for this is richly deserved.
Jeremy Galjour Thank you Jeremy! Your kind words are greatly appreciated. =)
I keep coming back to this video, one of the best Dark Below era Hive lore summaries on TH-cam
This is fantastic a much watch imo!
Ayyy it's Wallen.
Love you vids Wallen, but as you know, the dark souls community has very theatrical lore vids. And while yours are great, I would love for you to do more theatrical lore video's as well. I sometimes get lost with whats going on in the gameplay on screen I stop listening to you speak, but I love to watch a video with my lore too. I think you could really benefit having a visual representation of what your explaining. Planet destiny is the shit too BTW.
Sir Wallen - Lore Seeker Thanks man, I appreciate it. Apparently I'm not the first one to start doing Destiny lore. I didn't know that, but now that I've made this video I've heard quite a lot about you. Your library is quite extensive to say the least, and that's good because people are hungry for Destiny lore and they'll starve if they wait on my slow ass.
Well you work is pretty damn awesome and worth the wait, so I don't think anyone is worried. I'd say keep it up, this stuff is awesome.
Yes, excellent job indeed thank you very much, very much enjoyed.
TerraMantis this is the first video i have seen of you ........ and its Great
Jocke Falk Thanks Jocke!
You seriously need to apply as story writer or something along those lines to bungie. Not even kidding, go on bungie.net and apply.
Thats a great idea ;)
He made an excellent video yes, but he was relaying information that is allready there, not creating it from scratch.
Ayyy, I know you ;D
Zinux Ayyyy! Lol
nKuch Destiny no way i love Nkuch as well! Small world it seems 😆
No one will ever top this OG Destiny Lore video. This was the best ever made and that ever will be
Bravo! Very well done!
I especially loved the way you put together the 3 queens.
This was a very enjoyable watch, even for someone who hadn't completed Destiny. You've become such a master at your craft - all of that time spent was definitely worth it.
I hope you continue the lore videos. This was one of the best I've seen that actually considers the philosophical considerations of just what the darkness is exactly.
2 of my dollars well spent, sir. You are a lore master. Well done my friend.
haha... Thanks man!
The best destiny lore video ever made. No contest.
two small corrections, at the beginning you said the golden age was preceded by the collapse, it's actually succeeded. the other is when your talking about eris you show a warlock, she's actually a hunter. if you look at the cloak she's wearing, it's the same one she gives you if you are a hunter when you complete her quest line. your videos are fucking awesome man, keep up the great work
Awesome work mate. You have a natural flair for story telling and using imagery available.
As a great fan of destiny, this adds texture and richness to the gameplay.
Great job.
Thanks.
This video's quality was through the roof. It shows that you put so much effort into it.
But Terra, we have a problem. I like these videos so much I've started to crave them. I need more! Seriously, though, your Destiny vids are as awesome as your Souls vids. I hope you have more material for Destiny. I'd love to hear your take on The Vault of Glass and what the Vex are trying to achieve within it. I know you touched on it before, but that just can't compare to a dedicated video like this one :D
This is an amazing video
I am really impressed with the depth you managed to distill into the universe of Destiny, and can only regret that Bungie did not manage to convey it themselves.
Your writing style, and vocabulary is inspiring. The obvious research you did at the periphery of the game and mythos makes this video so much more than a gaming video.
Respect!
Philippe Soeiro agreed
"Being such an ancient adversary of light, inconsequential of relative time or dimension"
This definition of Darkness really made me think.
This video blew my mind man. Wow... Amazing quality. I'm speechless honestly. Thank you for this, totally opens my mind more to the game.
*Eris Finally bests Crota herself*
*Only gets Shards*
watching again 3 plus years later and still the most amazing piece of lore out to date !!!!!!!
Just want to say, Mantis, before the inevitable whiners and complainers get here (hey, you saw the comments on the trailer), that you're awesome and Destiny is pretty awesome too. I love that, in both this and Dark Souls, the darkness is not just the absence of light, but a tangible thing.
As an OG (Original Guardian) this is still one of my favorite videos on TH-cam!
That was.....AWESOME! The ending was amazing! ''The universe will drift into an endless nightfall!'' Best thing I have ever watched!
This is what Bungie needed to do. They should have implanted this mythological lore into the game, people like TerraMantis should have been writers for the game. This video that he has produced gives the game a sense of depth and make you feel like you are pushing the "bigger meaning" along. This makes it evident that we, "the fans", need to come up with these well crafted stories to elevate the overall game feel. The overall lore in Destiny doesn't paint a picture of the past nor the present. I'd like to thank TerraMantis and many others that have tried to build lore into the game externally.
You have officially earned yourself a new subscriber ^^
The quality of your narrative and story telling is way better than most games and movies I've seen (and they are A LOT).
Awesome job, Man :) your work is appreciated and treasured.
In terms of gameplay, Destiny is tedious and boring. Had any of the story been in-game, it would have been better. The way you give us the story terra, it's just as interesting as dark souls lore. Great vid despite the game itself lacking
Same thoughts here. If they AT LEAST put a way to read grimoire entries in game, Destiny would have been much more enjoyable. I lost all interest in the game after two weeks
Epicloser10391 finally, a comment that isnt ignorant. I like the game, its just me tho. Love the grind, gameplay and repetitive game style, im an rpg guy. But its an acquired taste, not every one will.
Destiny is awesome and not boring in my opinion.
Victor Williams
I'm With you! Ive been an RPG'r for yrs, I got pulled into destiny and have loved every minute!
Destiny felt more like a game I had to put work into rather than a grind. In some aspects it'd grindy as fuck, but other than those parts (marks, engrams, etc.) I feel like I'm rewarded for putting time and effort into it.
I never leave comments and I can't recall ever "liking" a video, but I'm doing both as well as subscribing. I love this game and I really enjoy the lore, but you've given me more information that I thought existed about Destiny and your delivery was spectacular.
I feel like Bungie is making a Gurren Lagann like story. The dark (anti-spiral) comes to crush the light (spiral) before it understands its true potential. The Hive uses the moon as a base of operation (much like the anti-spiral). Humans can't live on the surface because the fallen patrol the surface (much like the beast men) and humans are force to live in a secluded city. As long as the final DLC includes a gun that shoots drills I'll be happy!
I have no idea what to say to this, I love your idea that much.
Hell, make the barrel a drill that fires energy bolts, a hand cannon for dat impact and firepower.
Name: Spiral Buster/ Spiral Breaker (or something better, I can't think of one currently)
Description: "If there's a wall in our way, we knock it down. If there isn't a path, we pave one ourselves."
Has a mod for special armor piercing or multi-enemy-damaging bullets, called "Pierce the Heavens."
This would make my day :D
Edit: after seeing the Thorn hand cannon that fires rather large dart-things... yeah shooting drills would be much more awesome than energy bolts :D
MrTorgue Flexington ASA g urren Lagann fan i find this connection to be EPIC! And im a big sucker for the kind of story Destiny and Gurren Lagann tell too. Now i feel like listening to the Gurren Lagann Soundtrack as i play Destiny :3
Krazy Stargazer Especially during one of the raids. Charging towards Crota with a sword during the final chorus of the Gurran Lagann theme would be EPIC :D
The light knows wat it can do it just still cant get anything to work
david dad That's what I was getting at in my edit. It'd be similar to Thorn really, although instead of shooting DOT spikes, it would shoot drills :)
Your videos have been helping me learn a lot about the pieces of story that were only vaguely explained by the game itself. You took time to research grimoire cards, NPC interactions, and other forms of media to deliver a very easy-to-understand and very entertaining presentation. Seriously, well done :)
Eris was a hunter btw
This is honestly fantastic. Definitely the best destiny story telling I've come across. Keep it dude
Do we know if Toland is still alive ? It could be epic to meet a Hive-fanatic Warlock in TTK. (Hoping to see the Vex-fanatic Osiris one day)
***** We don't know, I'm really hoping Toland and Osiris make a show at some point in the franchise. I think it's very likely for Osiris since they've already got a voice actor for him, he reads from a log that your ghost finds when entering a mission. That alone makes me think Osiris will be a more influential character at some point.
TerraMantis
I really hope so, Vex are my favorite opponent in the game, so mysterious... We know how much Toland was fascinated by the Hive, leading him to madness. But Osiris seems less obsessed by the Vex, more like curious. And he is most likely alive imo, the Disciple casts doubt.
For one thing we know that Osiris is still alive, hopefully we get too meet him sometime.
DANTVSVERGIL
We know that he is not dead. Does that mean he is alive ? I don't think so. Warlocks are known to drive themself into madness, archiving knowledge more powerful than death itself. Maybe he is in a far superior state than alive or dead, in some sort of a stasis. Osiris specifically studied Vex, time travelers. Maybe he discovered their secret?
*****
Who knows all that we know of Osiris is that he's not "dead". Luke Smith was in an "interview" where he was asked a bunch of questions and he had too answer them quickly and one of the questions was "Is Osiris dead?" and his answer was "No" and we also know that the Titan that was found dead outside the Temple of Crota was not apart of Eris' fireteam.
I have to say, I am an avid Destiny player, I do the Crota raid weekly, as well as VoG, I've played through the story several times just to grab onto what the hell is actually going on. I've watched the 10 things you don't know about Destiny videos (all three) and I know more about the game now than I did previously, in an hour. These videos are amazing, I love them and I cannot wait to see more of it. I really, really appreciate the time and effort you put into your videos, your dedication is astounding and doesn't go unnoticed. Thank you. Count me as a sub!
I love your videos man your one of my favorite you tubers, nice job with the video btw. And i really wish i could help you money wise but in only 14 :(
Andrew Bernal Thanks a lot, I really appreciate the sentiment.
Don't worry about it, just enjoy being 14. =)
Man this is my umpteenth time watching this. Can't seem to get enough of it. It's just so well put together. The music the reading of the grimore is just in point to me. Keep content like this coming please
Do you think that in the Comet expansion the final boss in the speculated raid on a hive ship will be Oryx? It is speculation but it is reasonable to expect that we might eventually encounter Oryx, what do you think?
Possibly. It is a huge expansion. You can expect anything from bungle. But i think the crota saga is over in my opinon. BTW It's moaz796. I changed my name
SUROS Regime Oh, sup man, I still have a feeling we'll fight Oryx one day
Simply Toasty very posdibly. You know how bungie are.
One weekend, while chilling next to Xur, I heard him say, "Your Traveler has a dark mirror."
This got me thinking about the Shrine of Oryx mission wherein you destroy the black globe after killing Sardok.
Could Oryx be like the Traveler, only a dark version?
After all, religious shrines usually make an image of their God....
Jeremy Galjour no I think He is referring to the fact that before release, the traveler was evil
Dude, this was absolutely amazing to watch - and packed full of information I never knew! Best 15 minutes I've ever spent on TH-cam!!
Thousands of guys couldn't take Crota down.
Me and 5 friends beat him every week in a matter of about 20 seconds.
You had a sword, those Guardians didn't
ControlledChaos999 Very true, but what about Eris? We know her group did have a sword. Also, wouldn't they be able to make him kneel? They could just use their rockets and he'd be down. Sure, they wouldn't be able to kill him, but they would've escaped at least.
no, they knew that the sword was the key, but their party fell apart way before hand, their titan was killed by a wizard after all. who knows what the fuck happened to toland.
Remember, they couldn't just wipe and reset to the last checkpoint. If any guardian died, they're dead forever.
Brandon Sarrasin Wait, but that would mean that the ghosts didn't exist because they couldn't respawn. But then how would they be guardians?
Absolutely mind blowing story of Crota through the lore of Destiny. You can tell they really paid attention to the Grimoire, Eris' ramblings, the story laid out in the quests. Beautifully edited with excellent music to boot.
This is where games need to be to tell their stories. Destiny as a game is flawed. I've heard stories about infighting among the staff Bungie, and there is conclusive evidence to state that _something_ happened. Joe Staten left the company, and he's been there since before Halo: Combat Evolved. He's the one who likely wrote all the lore, and with him gone, they had to cobble bits and pieces together. That's why there is inconsistencies in the lore and the grimoire. Marty O'Donnell was fired, for unknown reasons. The composer who has been there as long as Staten. I don't know what happened, but it saddens me that it likely had a negative impact on the game.
However, the storytelling in this game is in the right direction. It's been made abundantly clear to me that people don't understand the way games are meant to tell their stories. The best way for a game to tell a story, is to not tell it at all. A game is not a movie, or a book. It is not a passive experience. The player should go about gathering the story themselves. Not every game has to play by these rules. But in my opinion, by not doing it, they only cheapen themselves by copying the formulas from other mediums. Mediums which do it *far* better than games.
That Crota, what he means to the Hive, and the way in which the players go about destroying him, is so interesting and complex only speaks to the power of storytelling only games can achieve. No other medium could tell a story like that, in this way. Flawed though it may be, Destiny understands how stories in games should be told.
He left the company cause he got a job at Microsoft. End of story. Everything else is just rumor.
People seem to have real trouble distinguishing story from narrative.
I also think Bungie over-estimated how used their companion app would be. The figured people use smart phones constantly now, so they'll have them right there to interact with the game at all times, get a grimoire card in-game and instantly look it up and read about it. Really, they should have put all that in the game. Let you pull up a menu, read the lore.
***** well they where right cause everyone I know pretty much does that lol.
X1 KILLA
Most people I know never even bothered to download their app, or if they did didn't think it had much use. You can't really do very much from it, aside from look at what vendors are selling, and what the weekly activities are. Out of the 5 people I usually play with, I'm the only one who's actually read through the grimoire cards because I find it interesting, I've never heard anyone else say "hey, I just unlocked a grimoire card, hold up a sec while I load it up and check it out".
***** I have and everyone uses the app as a way to find raid groups and to check out stats and what they've completed. I also use DestinyStatus.com
PLEASE make more of these lore videos. You are really good at presenting story information in a dramatic fashion.
You've done a better job telling the story than bungie
Incredible job. After watching that I'm speakless. Amazing work. I look forward to what comes next! I'll show this to anyone saying destiny has no story. So much lore packed into a few missions, a strike and a raid. Again amazing job!:-)
Very well made, but there is no evidence to suggest that Toland, The Shattered was among Eris's raid group and there is abundant evidence in the Grimiore that he is still alive and Eris Morn knows his location, but thus far has refused to disclose it despite the Vanguard(excluding Ikora Rey)and the Speaker's insistence that she do so, and as we still do not know the Speaker, or the Travelers true intentions who can blam her. I for one, look forward to the release of a Destiny game in which Toland, The Shattered finally makes an Appearance. We may even see this or a lead up to this in the Wolves Den dlc. I tend to believe that if he's hiding from the city, but still helping from afar than he is hiding out in the Reef and yes, the Queen most definitely knows that he is there and simply lets him be and lets him do his experiments in Hive Arcana to learn more from him. Good vid. This is my take on Toland. Cheers.
There is most definitely 100% no doubt that Toland was part of the group that went with Eriana and Eris. Also, I never said Toland was dead, I said he was never seen again. I like to think Toland is still alive as well, same with Osiris, the original Warlock badass who fought and studied the Hive and then disappeared too.
There are several grimoir cards showing that toland was with them.
Stop fighting! The grimoire cards suggest that Toland WAS in the fireteam, but they also suggest that he is still alive. It would only make sense that Toland survived if Eris did. He knew much more than she.
ERIS, ingame, is the only source that says that she was the only survivor(Grimoire says that she refuses to disclose his location instead), The Grimoire, however points in a different direction, that being that Toland is in hiding. Now go crawl in your hole Troll.
TerraMantis
I've had a chance to read more since commenting and it does seem like he was there leading the Fireteam along with Osiris due to their advanced knowledge of Hive Arcana. I do believe them both to be alive and at least one of them to be in the Reef. I really do want them to make an appearance.
2019 still best Destiny video ever made
Why does Crota glow in the game but doesn't in the trailer?
Good question.
This is just speculation but I have one of two possible answers.
1. That's not Crota in the trailer (it's totally Crota though)
2. The Knight in the trailer is in the Hellmouth on the Moon, perhaps he maintains a different appearance when he becomes physical in the real world. When we encounter him in the Crota's End raid, we're inside his world-mind. It could be that's just how he projects his appearance there.
TerraMantis Thanks! Also, what do you think Crota's Oversoul actually is? Since we never find out what that thing could possibly be, is it a star? Crota's soul manifested? Let me know if you have any theories on it, thanks!
Tahu Master Of Fire I'm pretty sure there's a grimoire card that says what the oversoul is to some degree. I don't remember the exact card but I'm pretty sure it's referred to as the husk of a dead star. This seems very interesting when considering some of the aspects of The Darkness grimoire cards which convey various guardians' theories about what The Darkness actually is (beside a plot device of course). One theory from a specific guardian states The Darkness is, in so many words, a blackhole that became sentient. In other words, a being that came into existence after a star collapsed. This seems fitting to me considering darkness cannot exist without light or vice-versa, seems only right that The Darkness be born of Light in some manner. It would also make sense then that The Hive, advocates of Darkness, would draw some type of power from the husk of a dead star which is the ultimate absence of light.
TerraMantis Interesting..thanks!
Tahu Master Of Fire probably a moon from a planet that the hive had captured and use it as a guardian to protect crota or any exalted hive member when they send spectral self to different parts of the universe
Dude, this is amazing. I had not been hyped by a lore content like this since Vaati's Dark Souls "prepare to cry" videos... Subbed!
and people say destiny doesnt have a good story
He made it up its not actually destiny's
The story is not in The Game, its in fckn Grimoire cards
& There's an difference between Lore & Story :)
They are talking about the main story line the one you play not the one u have to go to a stupid website to find out, it has a terrible storyline but it has some great lore but it's not in the game
5 years later this video still goes hard.
Seriously shouldn't Bungie be doing this? You know actually writing content and story?!?! Instead of giving us a totally boring and repetitive slog of a game full of game breaking bugs and broken updates?!?!?!
The story is all there, they just didn't tell it. :(
well we would have been told a better story if Activision forced Bungie to rush the game like they do for Call of Duty
The video is a word for word reading of the grimoire. He's done the hard work of getting the story out of the cards.
and bungie has to tell the story for 10 years so yeah
The amount of time and thought put into this video is astoundingly apparent...those who don't see how much effort you've put into this video need to look a little harder; brilliantly done sir...keep the videos coming!
Dude, this is absolutley BEAUTIFUL! You have a way of storytelling seldomly ever seen in most TH-cam videos or in general. BUNGIE are you listening? you need to fish this one! Keep up the awsome work! you sir have a fan!
Wow. I almost passed this video by when i saw it was 15 minutes but after the first 30 seconds i was hooked. Truly incredible work. Bungie should honestly consider picking you up as a writer; you told a better story in 15 minutes than they did in however long that measly campaign took. You definitely got a subscribe from me.
I was the Battlefield community manager for a couple years. I would have KILLED for a fan-made creation of this depth and quality.
Keep it up, man. This is amazing.
Great work! Can't believe you got all this from grimoire cards and weapon/armor flavours. Insane.
A real quality video, the time making this took is much appreciated. This rivals your incredible work with Dark Souls lore.
Amazing! The Destiny lore is so rich and and I feel it was not explored deeply enough in the games campaign. Thank you for going to the effort of producing this so that we can better understand. I eagerly look forward to the next one.
And this is why I love Destiny. This video one of the finest I've ever seen. Thank you for creating this.
Man I never comment on anything that I watch on TH-cam but on this one I must. This was truly an epic tale and that where you portray it is truly amazing. Great Job I hope to see more of your work.
I only intended to play the dark below quest chain with one of my characters. But now I will be doing it again while I think of the backstory it will make it more meaningful. Thanks again
This has to be one the most amazing videos about Destiny lore that I have ever seen, period.
please make more these lop seriously this was awesome. First time I could actually sit through an entire video
I'd just like to say. I've watched this video maybe 10 times. You did an excellent job putting the information together in a very understandable and interesting way. Thank you for the jem for destiny lore!
Dude, you've got to make more lore videos. The video was not only very enlightening on the lore of one of the toughest raid bosses, but the atmosphere set by the ambient background music helped make it rather engaging.
10/10, would watch again and would watch others like it.
Amazing job, Terra. For me, it is better to hear the story being told like this, rather than just reading bits from the grimoire. Keep up the great work. Looking forward to future videos!
I'm not a longtime fan, but I have to say that the amazing lore videos you post like these are the reason I plan on hitting the like button on many of your videos! I can't wait to see more Destiny lore videos since the game seems to really be lacking a good narrative. You've totally made me rethink my opinion on this dlc! :D Keep up the great work!
This is probably the best lore video I have seen. I am really excited for your next one, and please take your time. I hope it's even better that this one.
I only recently started watching your videos and I subbed after watching all of your ten things you didn't know about destiny. This video makes me like you even more. I love the way you present these things and how you don't over explain or over complicate whatever you do. I hope you get many more subs in the future they are all very very well deserved.
One of the greatest destiny lore videos ever made 🙌
This takes destiny for me to a whole new level. Sure it doesn't have much on the surface, but if we all were to put in the time you did to understand all this, the lore is amazing. You were practically able to create a short film based on grimoir and storytelling. You also worked your ass off. Great job. Like shared and subscribed. Keep it up Steve!
I quit destiny 1 over the vanilla version, had no plans of returning. This video make me go back. I leveled up, went from no legendaries to a Lego in every spot, plus like 2 exotics. With that I finished the raid, and I've played destiny ever since. This video game me a story that game wasnt at that time.
this is one of the best lore vids out there congrats this is REALLY good
Love the video an amazing take on the story of destiny. I truly believe videos like this is why there is so little story in the actual game. Bungie wants the community to piece the story together as a community. Great work
Please do more of these lore videos! This is one of the best if not the best lore video i've ever seen!
I never actually went to read through my grimoire cards but these videos have me hooked on Destiny lore, keep up the good work.
Holy crap that was awesome. I enjoy the idea of Grimoire (however you spell it) and the back story it provides. Sometimes it is clunky and annoying to use and hard to piece events together. Plus after too much reading my eyes bleed and my brain falls out my ears. So videos like this greatly appeal to me. Keep up the great work man. I'd loved to see many many more of these. Definitely subscribing.
Damn dude, so Epic.
Only you could make Destiny's story shine so brightly.
Looking forward to all your future content!
Thank you for this. If anyone else out there appreciates this video as much as I do, then you have made a lot of peoples day.
I just watched this 2/23/2015
I have to say I was completely drawn in by your work. I loved how you used the different video clips to tell the story in the background. Your narrative was very insightful. I have always been a big fan of chronological order. I find that it helps to make a story become clear. I am going to check out you other videos on Destiny. I hope you make another one like this one. I loved it. Thank you for helping me to understand the story of Destiny a little better. I await more of your work on Destiny.
This was spectacular. I love how you take your time and go full on into the lore. I know this can all be found in the grim, but you do a dry nice job keeping it all together.
I have read all of them and I understood them as I read them but these vids make mountains from loose soil in comparison.
Excellent work on this!! It was well done and gave me a greater appreciation for the story line and the lore behind Destiny. Keep it up.
WOW this was awesome! Thanks some much for posting this Terra Mantis, this explains a lot :D
Your voice is so enchanting.. Once I press play on these videos i can't bring myself to pause them
My god that was nice to watch. If Destiny took time to put this in a cut scene through the game I bet there would be less complaining about content. Ill tell you TerraMantis, that was some good story telling.
Anyone who loves Destiny will appreciate this video. I for one thought it was dope bro. Keep up the good work.
Great video man.thanks for the history/lore check.this was great!your commentary was flawless,and you gave great formality and your vocabulary for this was on point.kudos to you sir.
Nice compilation and narration of the Destiny Lore(story) thus far. Worth the time spent.
jesus man you make the destiny community a trillion times better than any out there right now. happy i came across your channel.
Very well done. Maybe the best destiny lore video I have ever seen. Thanks a ton for making it.
Awesome job, I learned more about Destiny's story in that 15 mins than I have in 6 months of playing. +1 subscriber collected
This was amazing. Please continue this kind of quality of work.
Amazing! masterful! words can't describe how much the destiny community appreciates this commitment to the lore! keep up the good work!
Amazing, so glad to have a real storyline for all the work that goes into this game and the players that push through it.
Love to see more, this needs to go Viral!
Great work and great editing. It looks like a lot of reading and research went into this.
cheers :)
this was awesome and quite helpful. If you made more of these for different worlds in Destiny, that'd be rad. Well done sir.
DAAANG!! Dude, massive props! liked, and subscribed. this actually makes me enjoy the game even more, and you tell the story better than I ever expect the game to.
wicked, man! purely wicked
Very nice job. You summed all the info up together nicely, accompanied with perfect music and visual cues. Keep up the good work!