hey there, old time windows xp tablet pc edition user here. actually the system decides whether to install the tablet edition or not according to the product key. so you have to enter a valid tablet pc edition key during the installation process. i guess you're familiar with finding such a thing online! btw. iirc there were once install cds that would also install media center edition, given the respective key.
It’s amazing how computer illiterate MJD, it’s half the reason I watch, the other half is so I can hear “Mikersoft applecations,” I laugh every god damn time.
Tablet PC's features are tied to the product key! You need a valid Tablet PC product key for the installation to work. Otherwise, it doesn't bother installing Tablet PC items and defaults to Professional.
Was going to say this aswell, pidgen creates a special SKU I'd that's used by the setup handler components. I'm 100% sure of this as I've built the tabletpc and media center stuff in an own build of XP
@@taylorwoolston8856 If you put a Media Center key into a Professional disc, it'll install Media Center components, but it will fail activation before it hits the OOBE, giving the "You need to activate your copy of Windows with Microsoft before you can log on" error immediately.
@@MichaelMJD That's because the 1st disc in a Windows XP Tablet PC or Media Center Edition install disc set is just a regular Windows XP Professional disc. That's why the branding on the installers is for Professional during the 1st and 2nd setup stages. Each XP Pro install contains INF files for Tablet PC and Media Center, which are installed only if the product key SKU matches. Those INFs then require files which are usually on the 2nd disc (CMPNENTS folder), but they can also be placed on the same disc as the rest of the Windows install.
@@RaduTekhow can I get a key for my Tablet PC edition? I have the original discs that came with my computer but the bottom sticker is worn off, and I have bought a broken machine(same type) but its key does not work on my working machine.
@@andrasszabo7386 The all windows dvd has this one : VJT7M-8KKHT-GXQ6B-RX639-94FMD Considering its abandonware and hasn't been sold for 10 years now I doubt its a problem that I give that out.
I watch your videos since 2021 and I still can't believe how u stay this calm! Seriously everything always goes wrong and you're just like "ok so nothing is working despite me spending hours trying to make it work😊😊"
Actually, the way the installer determines whether to install the Tablet PC perks or not is actually based on something much more simpler than a hardware check: the product key. And since you didn't input any, it only installed regular ole Professional. So definitely something to revisit in a future vid imo
In order to install Windows XP Pro as TabletEdition, you must provide a special Product Key during installation process. The key is in ... The Key itself, it determines whether Pro or TE will be eventually installed (if I recall correctly, there's actually one other windows version supplied with WinXP Pro installation image).
I’m 5m24 in so I don’t know the answer yet but from my experience, it depends on the product key as to what the Windows will install. If you put a valid product key in for Tablet PC edition, it should have asked you to insert CD 2, it’s the same for Media Center edition. If you don’t put a valid key in, it just installs regular XP Professional.
8:48 It doesn't do any hardware check on this subject. You really need a Tablet PC install media to install Tablet PC edition, but you also MUST enter the right serial key just for Tablet PC edition in same channel (OEM, Retail, VL etc.) that you're gonna install for ACTUALLY installing Tablet PC edition. If you skip entering serial key, it just installs regular copy of Professional. With that, I able to install Tablet PC edition on my desktop PC and my laptop which they don't have any single touchscreen support.
If you want, you can try again with entering right serial key (that's trial and error as you need to find working key via Googling) just for Tablet PC. If you also want, you can post a update video to this video. And if you install VL copy, you must enter VL key and it's also valid for OEM and Retail keys (OEM key on OEM install media and Retail key on Retail install media etc.).
If the license file got corrupted, I bet it's something to do with your USB drive, which means it could have affected that Bootcamp 2.1 installer as well.
Installing XP on later hardware is always a fun time, especially nowadays after bit rot has set in and it's become next to impossible to find XP compatible drivers for anything. Good on you for sticking through despite all the hurdles!
6:28 Quick point of advice: When you want to download something from the internet archive, do it via torrent. Even if there are no other users which are currently hosting the file, the IA will always have two clients online which are much faster than a regular download via browser.
4:44 From my understanding, the requirement to enter a product key at the time of install in Windows XP was removed in SP3. But anything before that will force you to enter the product key at the time of install with no workaround.
21:33 I installed XP and Vista bootcamp a lot for fun and for the drivers I always use the original Snow Leopard DVD, also I recommend Macs Fan Control for Windows so it doesn't overheat
I am sorry but as much as I love all the tech content ... I especially love the "but everything goes wrong" videos lol.... i have suffered through wasting time on windows installs that failed it's entertaining to see someone else go through issues lol
29:54 Actually, it did recognize the whatever you had of 'hello' at first in the file and recognized it as trio (line[prob. ignored], t-shape, that line leaning [into r], recognized only one i of two and recognized o, probably recognized second i connected with 0 to be '{', but that one is weird)
if you have winrar installed you can extract the boot camp self-extracting package to a folder and install the drivers manually or run the msi package directly
Half life went off screen at max res be ause you didn't have your actual display set to that. Menus are fine, but gameplay will Always break if the screen res doesn't match the game res. Windows XP quirks are fun
You know on the self extracting archive, you could have placed it in a new folder then you use seven zip to extract it in the newly created folder then went into device manager and installed the drivers that did not install it would’ve been much easier than having to download another CD because all that self extracting archive is doing is extracting itself to a different location but if you use seven zip you eliminate that process entirely
To be fair, I wasn’t looking at that archive page while I was talking, it was edited in afterwords. Just something that slipped by that I didn’t notice. An honest mistake
Unfortunately that touchscreen isn't recognized by Windows as a proper HID touch screen. All events from the touch panel are perceived by the OS as mouse input. HID touch screens require Tablet PC components on Windows, as they translate touch input to mouse events. Tablet PC shows a keyboard button hint when you tap a text field, but that doesn't happen when clicking with a mouse. This also enables Windows to do other things, like the virtual mouse that's present in Windows Vista and 7. Also an HID touch screen wouldn't have worked in 2nd phase of setup, as Tablet PC components aren't installed yet.
Hiya!! So I have messed around with this era of MacBooks before and I was actually able to download the drivers from Boot Camp in Mac Os. I believe it is in the top bar with the apple menu in one of those options while in boot camp you can download the driver to a folder from apple's servers. I am not sure if this still works but apple is pretty decent with keeping their old legacy stuff like that for a while. However if you do have a Mac Os X 10.5 install disk then you should have the Windows XP ones on there
i think notepad file corruptions are pretty common. a notepad file that i have put on an external hard drive also had some of the special characters (ğ,ü,İ,ş,ç,ö) just swapped with some other wrong character.
Sometimes for some strange reason windows will say a file transfer is complete bit if you look at the performance tab in task manager and select the drive it’ll still have write activity it’s also possible a bit or some flipped during the transfer process wether while copying or on the drive itself now that’s rare to happen but it’s also possible
But to me if you really want to download the specific version of Windows XP Tablet Edition from the internet archive, then the best option is to check the checkbox in the filter list for the creator section to make sure only Microsoft is selected so all of the results are from Microsoft
I actually used a dell Windows XP Tablet Edition 2005 iso from Internet Archive and Installed it on my Inspiron 1525 and it actually works with all the software included
There's a tablet calibration control panel in XP in the control panel however I am not sure it is included outside of the tablet PC versions but I could be wrong. It would make sense it would be included for touchscreen displays but not all the other touch stuff.
1:29 I didn’t realize there were versions of MacOS where the bootcamp assistant didn’t download the drivers for you. The screen you’re getting says to use the OS X install disc. Interesting. My first experience with Bootcamp was when I got my 2011 iMac and it worked perfectly.
I would love to see Windows 98 installed on this thing. I think that would be a fun idea. it's always fun to see old software running on new unsupported hardware.
I am still trying to understand the corrupted file. Usually when these flash chips lose bytes (like my "alzheimers thumb drive" does after less than an hour) it's random bytes, not a continuous string like seen in the text file. Where did the corruption come from?
Hi Michael, I wanted to ask if you would take a look at the OpenHour chameleon and try to install Linux (debian or ubuntu-based distros please) and/or Windows. I was not able to boot up a normal linux ARM32 installation. Thank you!
The only thing I can think of with the corrupted license file is that the flash drive has a problem. I once had an 8gb drive that would start corrupting files loaded onto it after a certain amount, about 2gb. It's a stretch, but I really can't think of another reason it would have corrupted like that, but didn't when you brought it over individually.
"Putting windows 98 on this computer that wasnt never meant to run it with the driver sounds fun". I mean by fun you mean swimming with alligators naked covered in leechs kinda fun then yes im totally down for that 😂
Hey MJD have you come across the Windows 7 Pro iPhone 3G/S Tablet from 2009 - 2012 according to all my Months of research, it's an absolute nightmare I gave up with mine it's in a box gathering dust from now on
I have an Acer C100(Wacom) with XP Tablet PC edition, but I cannot install the tablet part. The key on its bottom no longer works. Now what? I can install XP without key, but it never asks for CD 2. Without the tablet stuff, Wacom does not work. Any help would be appreciated.
hey there, old time windows xp tablet pc edition user here. actually the system decides whether to install the tablet edition or not according to the product key. so you have to enter a valid tablet pc edition key during the installation process. i guess you're familiar with finding such a thing online! btw. iirc there were once install cds that would also install media center edition, given the respective key.
i use windows xp professional sp3 as office pc and a android tablet with android 10 so... is that windows tablet
He should do a followup at that point, lol
I appreciate the info! Definitely makes sense. I thought it might’ve done a hardware check of some kind but that’s much simpler lol
@@MichaelMJD hello
Unsure if this info is helpful, but the MSDN download for Tablet PC has two iso files.
Finally a normal MJD video where everything goes wrong
Facts.
Nice early access brother
It’s not MJD if he doesn’t screw things up one bit!
@@commentarysheep True. His best videos are but everything goes wrong videos!
nice profile pic u got
When the world ends is when this channel features a “everything goes right” video
That already happened multiple times
@@Random_PersonOfficial but on the title
It’s amazing how computer illiterate MJD, it’s half the reason I watch, the other half is so I can hear “Mikersoft applecations,” I laugh every god damn time.
Tablet PC's features are tied to the product key! You need a valid Tablet PC product key for the installation to work. Otherwise, it doesn't bother installing Tablet PC items and defaults to Professional.
I was going to suggest this as a possibility.
Was going to say this aswell, pidgen creates a special SKU I'd that's used by the setup handler components.
I'm 100% sure of this as I've built the tabletpc and media center stuff in an own build of XP
That's weird. You'd think it would just install normally, then Windows stops working after 30 days or whatever.
@@taylorwoolston8856 If you put a Media Center key into a Professional disc, it'll install Media Center components, but it will fail activation before it hits the OOBE, giving the "You need to activate your copy of Windows with Microsoft before you can log on" error immediately.
for me I managed to install the Tablet PC Edition on a VM and I'm able to get all the tablet applications pre-installed
Oh hell yeah another "everything goes wrong" video, that's the funnest type of MJD video I like to see often
lol
Tablet PC doesn't use a hardware check, but it does do a serial check. If they use a WinXP Pro key it will be just WinXP Pro.
Makes sense! Guessing with no key entered it just defaults to XP pro
@@MichaelMJD That's because the 1st disc in a Windows XP Tablet PC or Media Center Edition install disc set is just a regular Windows XP Professional disc. That's why the branding on the installers is for Professional during the 1st and 2nd setup stages.
Each XP Pro install contains INF files for Tablet PC and Media Center, which are installed only if the product key SKU matches. Those INFs then require files which are usually on the 2nd disc (CMPNENTS folder), but they can also be placed on the same disc as the rest of the Windows install.
@@RaduTekhow can I get a key for my Tablet PC edition? I have the original discs that came with my computer but the bottom sticker is worn off, and I have bought a broken machine(same type) but its key does not work on my working machine.
@@andrasszabo7386 The all windows dvd has this one : VJT7M-8KKHT-GXQ6B-RX639-94FMD
Considering its abandonware and hasn't been sold for 10 years now I doubt its a problem that I give that out.
@@andrasszabo7386look for one online
I love the "everything goes wrong" videos! Keep up the great work MJD!
This whole process is more fun than any video game that has come out in the last couple years
I watch your videos since 2021 and I still can't believe how u stay this calm! Seriously everything always goes wrong and you're just like "ok so nothing is working despite me spending hours trying to make it work😊😊"
30:50 "Ylyes!" - Michael MJD
ha
these everything goes wrong vids r my favorite
Same
Yes another MacBook video
A Mac with a touchscreen, running Windows. Steve Jobs must be rolling in his grave and I love it 😅
Actually, the way the installer determines whether to install the Tablet PC perks or not is actually based on something much more simpler than a hardware check: the product key. And since you didn't input any, it only installed regular ole Professional. So definitely something to revisit in a future vid imo
people have commented about that already
Yaaaaaay a MJD video where everything goes wrong,just in time that i have popcorn and pepsi,this is gonna be AWESOME
In order to install Windows XP Pro as TabletEdition, you must provide a special Product Key during installation process.
The key is in ... The Key itself, it determines whether Pro or TE will be eventually installed (if I recall correctly, there's actually one other windows version supplied with WinXP Pro installation image).
How can drivers be installed and not be installed at the same time?
Schroedinger's drivers
@@ciach0_lol
@@ciach0_you only know if the drivers work until you use the hardware (open the metaphorical box)
built in plug and play drivers that come with Windows that's loaded vs manufacturing driver.
"Ylyes!"
when you're so happy something just worked out for once
30:50 for the ylyes, for everyone out there.
I always watch whatever you post, especially XP. Currently messing with my XP laptop while watching too
I love your good temper, patience and optimism !
Also thanks for linking to a working xp tablet edition. I have an ATM Windows XP Touchscreen PC I've wanted to put this on.
I just love but everything goes wrong videos. They are very entertaining
I’m 5m24 in so I don’t know the answer yet but from my experience, it depends on the product key as to what the Windows will install. If you put a valid product key in for Tablet PC edition, it should have asked you to insert CD 2, it’s the same for Media Center edition. If you don’t put a valid key in, it just installs regular XP Professional.
It's always a good day when MJD Uploads.
8:48 It doesn't do any hardware check on this subject. You really need a Tablet PC install media to install Tablet PC edition, but you also MUST enter the right serial key just for Tablet PC edition in same channel (OEM, Retail, VL etc.) that you're gonna install for ACTUALLY installing Tablet PC edition. If you skip entering serial key, it just installs regular copy of Professional. With that, I able to install Tablet PC edition on my desktop PC and my laptop which they don't have any single touchscreen support.
If you want, you can try again with entering right serial key (that's trial and error as you need to find working key via Googling) just for Tablet PC. If you also want, you can post a update video to this video.
And if you install VL copy, you must enter VL key and it's also valid for OEM and Retail keys (OEM key on OEM install media and Retail key on Retail install media etc.).
If the license file got corrupted, I bet it's something to do with your USB drive, which means it could have affected that Bootcamp 2.1 installer as well.
oh yeah! that was probably much less of a problem
Probably not ejecting the USB key properly. I know it shouldn't be needed perse but have been burnt by this in the past
Installing XP on later hardware is always a fun time, especially nowadays after bit rot has set in and it's become next to impossible to find XP compatible drivers for anything. Good on you for sticking through despite all the hurdles!
If it doesnt go wrong, I dont think its a MJD videi
And thats how we love 'em!
This is the coolest thing the algorithm has suggested to me in a while
Keep it up, I’m looking forward to the next video :)
I love these videos! Not the struggle of course but still, awesome video! 👏
6:28 Quick point of advice: When you want to download something from the internet archive, do it via torrent. Even if there are no other users which are currently hosting the file, the IA will always have two clients online which are much faster than a regular download via browser.
4:44
From my understanding, the requirement to enter a product key at the time of install in Windows XP was removed in SP3. But anything before that will force you to enter the product key at the time of install with no workaround.
i can't get enough of your content, it's that good!
Another lovely MJD video.
36 minutes of MJD Classics! As soon as I saw this video, I immediately clicked on it and completely forgot about my billion open tabs
21:33 I installed XP and Vista bootcamp a lot for fun and for the drivers I always use the original Snow Leopard DVD, also I recommend Macs Fan Control for Windows so it doesn't overheat
I am sorry but as much as I love all the tech content ... I especially love the "but everything goes wrong" videos lol.... i have suffered through wasting time on windows installs that failed it's entertaining to see someone else go through issues lol
Finally, another "everything goes wrong" video, these are usually my favorite types of videos from MJD.
I just randomly tested what it looks like to invert the colours of my screen (through a KDE screen effect) and WinXP's blue title bar became golden XD
I love these videos. They are so cool and unique ❤
29:54 Actually, it did recognize the whatever you had of 'hello' at first in the file and recognized it as trio (line[prob. ignored], t-shape, that line leaning [into r], recognized only one i of two and recognized o, probably recognized second i connected with 0 to be '{', but that one is weird)
Making me smile everytime I see u uploaded
if you have winrar installed you can extract the boot camp self-extracting package to a folder and install the drivers manually or run the msi package directly
Another great video Michael. never an MJD vid without something going wrong at some point. 😂
Half life went off screen at max res be ause you didn't have your actual display set to that. Menus are fine, but gameplay will Always break if the screen res doesn't match the game res. Windows XP quirks are fun
Driver hell is my favorite pass time.
You know on the self extracting archive, you could have placed it in a new folder then you use seven zip to extract it in the newly created folder then went into device manager and installed the drivers that did not install it would’ve been much easier than having to download another CD because all that self extracting archive is doing is extracting itself to a different location but if you use seven zip you eliminate that process entirely
8:33 I love that he's trying to guess what went wrong while the actual explanation is right there in the middle of the screen 🤣
To be fair, I wasn’t looking at that archive page while I was talking, it was edited in afterwords. Just something that slipped by that I didn’t notice. An honest mistake
26:20, you just reminded me the XP Tablet version of this game can be ran in compatibility mode on Windows 10.
Unfortunately that touchscreen isn't recognized by Windows as a proper HID touch screen. All events from the touch panel are perceived by the OS as mouse input.
HID touch screens require Tablet PC components on Windows, as they translate touch input to mouse events. Tablet PC shows a keyboard button hint when you tap a text field, but that doesn't happen when clicking with a mouse. This also enables Windows to do other things, like the virtual mouse that's present in Windows Vista and 7.
Also an HID touch screen wouldn't have worked in 2nd phase of setup, as Tablet PC components aren't installed yet.
you have to set a registry entry to get the brightness working. I had that same thing happen to me but forget what the registry entry is.
"Installing windows XP on the touchscreen macbook"
Oh okay 🙂
"...everything goes wrong"
YESSSSSSS!!!!! 🎉🎉
*Ylyes
30:50
3:33 fly making an appearance
Hiya!! So I have messed around with this era of MacBooks before and I was actually able to download the drivers from Boot Camp in Mac Os. I believe it is in the top bar with the apple menu in one of those options while in boot camp you can download the driver to a folder from apple's servers. I am not sure if this still works but apple is pretty decent with keeping their old legacy stuff like that for a while. However if you do have a Mac Os X 10.5 install disk then you should have the Windows XP ones on there
Just happened to pass by and you published a video. Yay!
i think notepad file corruptions are pretty common. a notepad file that i have put on an external hard drive also had some of the special characters (ğ,ü,İ,ş,ç,ö) just swapped with some other wrong character.
Congrats on getting featured on XDA!
Sometimes for some strange reason windows will say a file transfer is complete bit if you look at the performance tab in task manager and select the drive it’ll still have write activity it’s also possible a bit or some flipped during the transfer process wether while copying or on the drive itself now that’s rare to happen but it’s also possible
7:26 Wait, you can view what a camera sees _from WinXP Explorer_ ?!?
But to me if you really want to download the specific version of Windows XP Tablet Edition from the internet archive, then the best option is to check the checkbox in the filter list for the creator section to make sure only Microsoft is selected so all of the results are from Microsoft
22:55 Welcome to Camp BOOT! A removable, and portable Camp for all computers! Enjoy your stay while it lasts!
08:19 Asus Recovery CD is from my archive :)
it wouldnt be an mjd video if it didnt have mistakes in it which just makes it more fun to watch
14:54 Blowing right past those rotation options 😂😂😂
Google toolbar was also included on Corel paint shop pro x4 and Adobe shockwave 11.
I actually used a dell Windows XP Tablet Edition 2005 iso from Internet Archive and Installed it on my Inspiron 1525 and it actually works with all the software included
4:42. This copy of Windows has Service Pack 3 on it. No need for a key to continue installation.
I love that you have a rule that Half-Life is the go to game for testing. I do the exact same thing! Even got it working on an AMD 486 many years ago!
There's a tablet calibration control panel in XP in the control panel however I am not sure it is included outside of the tablet PC versions but I could be wrong. It would make sense it would be included for touchscreen displays but not all the other touch stuff.
i love your content so much please dont die
Wow this is good You deserve a like
7:26 It works! *Druaga1 intensifies*
1:29 I didn’t realize there were versions of MacOS where the bootcamp assistant didn’t download the drivers for you. The screen you’re getting says to use the OS X install disc. Interesting. My first experience with Bootcamp was when I got my 2011 iMac and it worked perfectly.
From day to day I'm asking myself where he is getting this ideas....
My favorite series
mjd doesn’t even have to specify everything goes wrong, i know everything goes wrong in mjd videos by heart
The Windows Package drives is on bootcamp. Even with drivers for hfs
How to get drunk in 36 minutes: just take a shot each time Michael says "you know" 😂
30:49 Michael MJD is an alien confirmed real?
Everything went wrong but ended up actually not that bad!
The Tablet Edition features might be dependent on the product key (which you shipped during install)
I would love to see Windows 98 installed on this thing. I think that would be a fun idea. it's always fun to see old software running on new
unsupported hardware.
Interesting video!
Everything goes wrong like my life
But meet up the good work Michael
I am still trying to understand the corrupted file. Usually when these flash chips lose bytes (like my "alzheimers thumb drive" does after less than an hour) it's random bytes, not a continuous string like seen in the text file. Where did the corruption come from?
29:15 "itfiio" -what mjd wrote
Hi Michael,
I wanted to ask if you would take a look at the OpenHour chameleon and try to install Linux (debian or ubuntu-based distros please) and/or Windows.
I was not able to boot up a normal linux ARM32 installation.
Thank you!
The only thing I can think of with the corrupted license file is that the flash drive has a problem. I once had an 8gb drive that would start corrupting files loaded onto it after a certain amount, about 2gb. It's a stretch, but I really can't think of another reason it would have corrupted like that, but didn't when you brought it over individually.
"Putting windows 98 on this computer that wasnt never meant to run it with the driver sounds fun".
I mean by fun you mean swimming with alligators naked covered in leechs kinda fun then yes im totally down for that 😂
I’m gonna grab a snack to watch this BANGER🗣️🔥
I love how you take a very specific use case device and ask, why isn't it running xp?
Can you install Arch Linux on the touchscreen macbook?
Remember the windows xp on the apple tv? I kind of told you to use startup disk on the mac side to boot into windows xp.
Yeah please make the video with an older DOS based Windows install! Would definitely make for an interesting '...but everything went wrong' video! 😅
Hey MJD have you come across the Windows 7 Pro iPhone 3G/S Tablet from 2009 - 2012 according to all my Months of research, it's an absolute nightmare I gave up with mine it's in a box gathering dust from now on
I'm starting to wonder how often this USB stick of yours has caused random weird shenanigans to happen on your setups lol
Everything goes wrong but it goes right in the end
I have an Acer C100(Wacom) with XP Tablet PC edition, but I cannot install the tablet part. The key on its bottom no longer works. Now what? I can install XP without key, but it never asks for CD 2. Without the tablet stuff, Wacom does not work. Any help would be appreciated.
4:42 I think that was introduced with XP Service Pack 3. Previously you needed to introduce a product key.
I would really, REALLY like to understand how did that license file just get... corrupted at the end?