I am glad to see BJ continue to thrive - when everyone else is going for power, he still dedicates the pace and style of the plays by the cat-mouse of positioning and subtle ball controlling
Cat and mouse means trying to create dilemmas which is often done with good positioning opening up multiple attacking angles which causes the game to often times become a guessing game because it's hard to cover the entire court. Therefore the term cat and mouse is used to describe that part of the game because if a player can establish a better position giving him multiple attacking angles(ex if he has a really good down the line shot and cross court shot botj available) he then becomes the mouse and the recieving player is the cat and he is stuck in a dilemma because he has to guard both shots and often times will have to guess which shot is correctly to block and if he waits(tries to react rather than guess) he will often just get beat with a great passing shot.
I feel like Staksrud does well against power or finesse players, but not a hybrid of both,. And Ben definitely fits that sweet spot. The way Stak holds the paddle (index pointed up) also limits hit shotmaking, which Ben takes full advantage of through his anticipation and placement.
I am glad to see BJ continue to thrive - when everyone else is going for power, he still dedicates the pace and style of the plays by cat-mouse positioning and subtle control
Tennis still has nothing to worry about pickleball. A lot of pb players secretly wish they know how to play tennis. And you see how many people watching this final (With Johns being one of the bests) game? Not a lot. A tennis final with the No1 in the world, u can expect waaaay more people watching.
I think it’s similar to Chris Haworth using gearbox power in doubles and the control in singles. You gotta be abit more precise and singles and the last thing you want is to overhit your ball.
He is using a Gen 3 for both now. Has the last 2 tourneys. Ben won't play with the broken in gen 3 (you can tell when they are broken in by the sound, feds is broken in, tyson's is broken in, etc.)
@@VividTape there’s a possibility that Ben is still using a gen 2 with a gen 3 paint job. My new unbroken in gen 3 still sounds more thocky than the clickier sound we hear from Ben’s typical gen 2 paddle.
The commentary was just fine and I enjoyed it. You need to complain to TH-cam, instead. TH-cam ought to allow more than one audio track to be included, with and without commentary. Then you can have yours and I can have mine.
@@tylersullivan9187 I understand that. I tuned in to the live event when this match started and they immediately spoiled the result of the men’s doubles match. Not everyone can be tuned in all day with the announcers. If they wanted to, they could easily avoid spoiling previous match results on Championship Sunday.
@tylersullivan9187 I feel like they need to start recognizing that the overwhelming majority of us wait for the edited TH-cam videos and watch them in random order. They should stop saying the results of the other matches in my opinion as well. I hate when that happens. Like damn...I was about to watch that match next. Oh well.
@@Swirlsofclouds Where do you draw the line between what the commentators shouldn't say versus your own "random" viewing habits, especially when the result of a previous match featuring one player may be significant context regarding what the current match means to that same player? The videos are uploaded to the channel in chronological order so it seems that you are making the conscious choice to watch out of order and risk spoilers. I felt that watching this video and the commentators re-affirming BJ's tournament gold chase gave me a lot more appreciation for every point scored.
I am glad to see BJ continue to thrive - when everyone else is going for power, he still dedicates the pace and style of the plays by the cat-mouse of positioning and subtle ball controlling
what do they mean by cat and mouse, i don't get it
@paradise4213 cat and mouse is using the entire court for openings. Johns is the master of angles and drop shots.
That's why Ben remains the best. Federico has more points because he plays more tournaments.
Cat and mouse means trying to create dilemmas which is often done with good positioning opening up multiple attacking angles which causes the game to often times become a guessing game because it's hard to cover the entire court. Therefore the term cat and mouse is used to describe that part of the game because if a player can establish a better position giving him multiple attacking angles(ex if he has a really good down the line shot and cross court shot botj available) he then becomes the mouse and the recieving player is the cat and he is stuck in a dilemma because he has to guard both shots and often times will have to guess which shot is correctly to block and if he waits(tries to react rather than guess) he will often just get beat with a great passing shot.
This is Ben in absolute top form…precise, aggressive, unflappable.
I just love the commentary of Dave and Meesh! TY for your professionalism and fun commentary!
Michelle McMahon is terrible!
Me too!
GOAT IS BACK BABAY
Great Job Ben! You stayed calm and cool and showed us you are a GOAT!! Fed today is just not your day!
/ in-between their own names like they're playing doubles
hahahaha
Can't wait to see Federico and Staksrud vs Ben and Johns
Typo
I feel like Staksrud does well against power or finesse players, but not a hybrid of both,. And Ben definitely fits that sweet spot.
The way Stak holds the paddle (index pointed up) also limits hit shotmaking, which Ben takes full advantage of through his anticipation and placement.
A request: let us hear what the commentators say during time outs. No need to edit everything out. There was even a point skipped early in game two.
Request: remove the commentator's voices, and edit more out.
The commentators never shut up and are always annoying. Why would you want more?
Fed has done a great job learning and imitating Ben's game. But not quite there yet.
a copy is a copy is a copy
Ben be GOAT!!!!!
Thanks Ben for Perfection!
I am glad to see BJ continue to thrive - when everyone else is going for power, he still dedicates the pace and style of the plays by cat-mouse positioning and subtle control
Ben is the chess player of pickleball.
Congratuations Ben! So happy for you. You deserve it. Just need to get the men's doubles figured out and start earning triple crowns again
Another gold for the good guys! Congrats Ben! Back on top where he belongs
Go beaver go! Go beaver go!
Federico destroyed Quang Duong 11 to 0 in both games before this match.
Ben covers the court much better than Duong.
Federico has Duong's number and Ben has Fedirico's number. For sure, Duong would rather play against Ben than Federico any day.
@@chubun6631 True, but Ben has figured out Duong. No one takes Duong out like Federico.
@@thanh-nhatran4634 Ben's anticipation is 2nd to none.
Tennis still has nothing to worry about pickleball. A lot of pb players secretly wish they know how to play tennis. And you see how many people watching this final (With Johns being one of the bests) game? Not a lot. A tennis final with the No1 in the world, u can expect waaaay more people watching.
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Kinda interesting that Ben decides to use gen 2 for singles, but gen 3 (MOD-TA) for doubles
I think it’s similar to Chris Haworth using gearbox power in doubles and the control in singles. You gotta be abit more precise and singles and the last thing you want is to overhit your ball.
@@adamheath4599is this a new thing for him? I’ve only seen him play singles and he was using some 13mm babolat paddle
@@TotshotAirsoft oh this was before babolat, like 2 or 3 months ago
He is using a Gen 3 for both now. Has the last 2 tourneys. Ben won't play with the broken in gen 3 (you can tell when they are broken in by the sound, feds is broken in, tyson's is broken in, etc.)
@@VividTape there’s a possibility that Ben is still using a gen 2 with a gen 3 paint job. My new unbroken in gen 3 still sounds more thocky than the clickier sound we hear from Ben’s typical gen 2 paddle.
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Is/is not BJ playing with the new paddles? If not, why not? Seems all the other pros are using it.
Ben is now using Gen 3, which will make him #1 again
@@VividTape his paddles don’t have the cosmetics of the MOD paddle like the other pros.
It's difficult to understand the announcer. ☮
Wdym putting work of the court ben is working 6 times a week and drills 3 hours a day that sound like work tell me who does more
congrats!! Ben !!!!!!!!! from JAPAN!!!!!
How much money did Johnson win?
has Fed ever beaten Ben in singles?
Ya but I think the h2h is like 12-2 Ben
The game was over from the very first point. BJ precision was near perfect.
Ben had a run of about four unforced errors in the middle of the second game.
They’re both so good but their styles make for a bit of a boring match as a viewer 😅
both players doing illegal serves smh
everyone say. come on now... federio federico
Can the commentators please stop talking sooo muchhhhhh!!! Let's hear the game please.
The commentary was just fine and I enjoyed it.
You need to complain to TH-cam, instead. TH-cam ought to allow more than one audio track to be included, with and without commentary. Then you can have yours and I can have mine.
SOMEONE PLEASE TELL THE COMMENTATORS TO STOP SPOILING THE RESULTS OF THE OTHER MATCHES!
They commentate live and react to the news of what happened that day. It’s a sport that’s broadcast live, not specifically for TH-cam videos later lol
@@tylersullivan9187 I understand that. I tuned in to the live event when this match started and they immediately spoiled the result of the men’s doubles match. Not everyone can be tuned in all day with the announcers. If they wanted to, they could easily avoid spoiling previous match results on Championship Sunday.
@tylersullivan9187 I feel like they need to start recognizing that the overwhelming majority of us wait for the edited TH-cam videos and watch them in random order. They should stop saying the results of the other matches in my opinion as well. I hate when that happens. Like damn...I was about to watch that match next. Oh well.
@@italipino24 Exactly
@@Swirlsofclouds Where do you draw the line between what the commentators shouldn't say versus your own "random" viewing habits, especially when the result of a previous match featuring one player may be significant context regarding what the current match means to that same player? The videos are uploaded to the channel in chronological order so it seems that you are making the conscious choice to watch out of order and risk spoilers. I felt that watching this video and the commentators re-affirming BJ's tournament gold chase gave me a lot more appreciation for every point scored.
Frustrating watch, boo
Pretty bad
What an insane out call from Fed at 19:07 lmao glad Ben challenged.
Federico is the goat. IDC IF HE LOST