Miscellaneous Myths: Pride Tales
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- It's pride month! Here's a quick anthology of various tales that fit the spirit of the season!
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"So do you like men or women?"
Athena: "I like war?"
"Yes but what turns you on?"
Athena: "Strategy."
"what type of people are you into?"
"The type I can kill?"
Zeus so If I talk about the advantages of a pincer movement for an hour I'll make you orgasum?
@@tomsautocadstudio6446 well Zeus is her father so I hope he wouldn't try to make his daughter orgasm but he did marry his sister...
@@tomsautocadstudio6446 please tell me this isn't another story of how Zeus fathered/mothered a child with an abstract concept.
SunTzu- Ahhh, I see you are also a woman of culture in the art of war.
Ancient myth: *Is literally a morning after diary entry that is also basically gay erotica.*
Historians: "Manly best friends."
Song of Solomon is basically soft erotica... For centuries, Torah and Biblical scholars have called it "poetry," that it is meant to be illustrative of the ideal relationship between God and man, but it doesn't take much of a reading to see that somebody was getting off on it.
Historians: F is for friends who do stuff together
@@faatimaismail8856 U is for Uretra in ma butt. Try it
bros just kiss each other sometimes man. no homo if you give your hommie a flury of kisses. crazy peeps trying to find gayness in anything
Homiesexual
Aphrodite: "Why don't you slip into something a little more... comfortable?"
Athena: "I am most comfortable when I'm impervious to most forms of physical attack."
“Most” forms? C’mon Athena, raise those standards. You gotta get to “all forms!”
@@mr.cup6yearsago211 maybe she’s playing an SMT game. If you become immune to ALL forms they start spamming Almighty
@@seta2710 can confirm.
XD that's a nice clap back. XD
@@seta2710 fr
Apollo and Artemis are literally
"Do you like boys or girls?"
"Yes"
"No"
Typical of twins
.... I don't know... There are some hints here & there that point to Artemis liking girls as more than just 'friends'.
@@Jazzisa311 not really. No original Greek myth has Artemis as a lesbian. Most are usually either fake or written by someone waaaay later in time with a political agenda to appeal to lesbians (yep using identity politics for political gain existed even in ancient Greece). But the funny thing is Greeks already were okay with lesbians.
@@Jazzisa311 hard 2 tell tho
They're as different as the sun and the moon.
...wait.
Even fox spirits can’t help falling for straight girls lol
A tail as old as time ( pun intended)
Same
Kitsune literally have no gender but okay...
@IceQueen975 The person you replied to is also non-binary.
Mood
"Aphrodite holds no power over me" is what I'm going to say from now on instead of spending 5-10 minutes explaining aromanticism
"Hey babe wanna hang out-"
"Aphrodite has no power over me."
"Huh?"
"You heard me."
That’s actually an amazing idea im gonna do that too when my parents ask why I don’t have a boyfriend yet
Well, there are the Erotes who hold dominion over specific types of love and sexual pleasure. Aphrodite - and Eros if using the Hestiod lens - if just love and sex overall; so platonic love, familial love, self love also fall under her.
@@IceQueen975 Luckily theres a lot of cross over in the greek pantheon about who does what, so you can still worship a god of platonic or familial love like Philotes, the Goddess of friendship and affection
Petition to call a group of aros/aces a Parthenon. A Parthenon of aros, I think it quite rolls off the tongue.
Hmmm, if Athena was interpreted as Asexual, that could also explain why Zeus is such a unrelenting hound dog. Maybe when she came out of his head, she took all his restraint or temperance with her?
I like this theory
Wow I love that, cool idea
I think Athena is also an Aromantic icon, ARO ACE ICOONNN
I’m pretty sure he was already like that before she was born
That implies that she does want to bone but holds it back. I prefer the asexual interpretation.
My favorite myth is the one where a young boy accidentally saw Artemis bathing, and instead of killing him she simply turned him into a girl and had her join the hunt.
This story is my favorite because I read it when I was around 13 and was so jealous. And for some reason this was not a big enough reason for me to realize that I am trans.
There's actually two versions : either it was an accident or the boys snuck to take a peek. Artemis is also unforgiving when girls cross her so.....
* points * egg (okay but fr I've been there-)
@@moss-eating-oddity3612 My egg lasted for a hilariously long time.
@@moss-eating-oddity3612 my egg keeps cracking but I just keep putting tape over it lol
@A Mothman with a phone uh no. In the original story OP mentioned the boy came across Artemis by complete accident. And he was remorseful and begged Artemis for forgiveness. In the later version of the story you're referring to the boy intentionally approached Artemis while bathing and tried to seduce her despite knowing her general preference for that sort of thing. Yeah he had it coming.
"Aphrodite has no sway over me" is perhaps the coolest way of coming out as Ace/Aro. I think I'll be using that from now on.
I can just imagine pansexuals and bisexuals saying "Aphrodite has too much sway over me" and now I can't get that out've my head
i need this on a t-shirt
Aphrodite has about as much sway on me as porridge. I know it exists, and that other people like it, but it has no effect on me. Aphrodite is porridge.
Someone's like "Oh who do you like?" and you just reply, looking then dead I the eye, dead serious and say "Aphrodite has no sway over me" and then some are confused but most are like "Okay I know who she is but are you saying you're asexual or challenging a goddess?" and you reply "... Yes."
Me, panromantic asexual: ...
*I Won't Lose My Virginity Because I Never Lose*
-Athena (probably)
I still love that she had children from sweating 😂
underrated comment
@@s.winter7455 this is the most flattered i have ever been in my entire life
cute little Appas 😍
@@Crick1952 excuse me??
Everyone talking about Athena and Artemis in the comments, but can we take a minute to appreciate Emperor Ai and Dong Xian? That story is so friggin cute.
And the one where the fox didn't get the girl was seriously heartbreaking😭😭😭 (to me at least)
Also before he died..the emperor literally NAMED HIM HIS HEIR. YES.
But it didn’t work out very well…..
Agreed
There’s more gay ancient Chinese stories where that came from!
So basically this guy Long Yangjun (龍陽君) and emperor Wei (魏王）are definitely very gay and the emperor dotes on him a lot. One day, they went fishing together, and when the Long Yangjun caught ten-something fish, he suddenly started crying. Emperor Wei and asked why he was crying, upon which the guy basically answered “at first when I was catching fish I was happy, as I caught bigger and bigger fish, I wanted to throw aside the smaller ones. Someday I will also be thrown aside, how could I not cry?”
Another one is sadder and I read that the writer just borrowed these two people to tell a story so idk the truth of it:
(Idk how to translate the names so just deal with “the guy” and “the emperor lol)
This guy is very much doted on by the emperor (starting to sense a pattern here). In that country, driving the carriage of the emperor without permission is punishable by chopping off one’s foot. One day the guy found out his mother was sick and used the emperor’s carriage to go to his mother. When the emperor heard of it he said the guy was a great son, risking having his foot cut off for his mother.” Another time, the two were touring a peach garden when the guy ate a particularly sweet peach, and gave the unfinished peach to the emperor. The emperor said “he loves (Yep, it uses 愛 which means love) me such that he forgot he has already eaten the peach and gave it to me.” After the guy has grown older, the emperor’s fondness towards him weakened, and he did something to offend the emperor, the emperor said “this person took my carriage without permission and gave me his half-eaten leftover peach.”
Basically implying his view of the guy changes 180 after their love fades lol
@@bookbutterfly6613 yes! the two are known as mizi xia and duke ling of wei, their story used as a cautionary tale by Han Fei, the legalist philosopher.
one of the few beings Aphrodite has no Influence over: A God of War
One of the few beings Aphrodite has direct influence over: The other God of War
This is probably cursed but...
For a moment I read it as Aphrodite as no influence over Ares but she boned Athena.
The fact that Aphrodite was worshiped as a war goddess in some places- 👁👁
@@YourMomma- this is getting out of hand , now there is 3 of them
@@zenith8589 Oh trust me there more.
@@zenith8589 In Roman myths, Bellona is also a war goddess (Roman-only myth).
Ma is a Cappadocian goddess of motherhood and war.
“Tamamizu is fully supportive as their relationship advances but she’s kinda dying on the inside”
* *Pets ancient Japanese fox spirit* *
Yeah I know the feeling girl
Yeah when school starts back, if the guy I like gets another girlfriend I'm gonna be in that boat
Artemis Wolf same. especially when you realise that you cant date fictional charecters ;w;
its the biggest mood.
Ngl that's currently happening to me with the girl I like she's got a bf now and I'm being as supportive as I can while kind of dying on the inside
Its so relatable thats its not even funny. It just be like that sometimes.
Athena: "Yeah, romance is great and all but have you ever heard of *battle strategy* ?"
+
Can I get that on a shirt? I feel like that would be great
“Why don’t you take off that battle armour and slip into something more comfortable?”
“I AM MOST COMFORTABLE WHEN I AM
IMPERVIOUS TO MOST PHYSICAL FORMS OF ATTACK”
lmao this feels like the minority of Fire Emblem players i fricking relate
@@cartoonishidealism582 I feel like I've heard this somewhere before. What is it from?
I feel like Rick Riordan discovered that Athena wasn’t a romantic goddess a few books into Percy Jackson and he then had to figure out where all of these Athena children came from
BRAIN BABIES
@@violetbean8928 literally just get migraines out of nowhere, now they're just children for no reason
@@violetbean8928 Brainbies
Well, what he came up with did make sense so…..
Considering the man's taught mythology before he probably just wanted the two main characters to be children of enemy gods lol
Apollo: biggest disaster-bi ever
Athena: ace and super into war
Literal polar-opposites
You mean artemis, because she has all the ace of Athena plus she's the goddess of the moon in direct opposition to appollo being the god of the sun
@@powerofneo1590 they're twins 😭😭
@@junkosllette doesnt mean they cant be polar opposites
@@kayatoastkkat you'd be surprised
I mean Apollo wasn't disinterested in war either, considering his heavy involvement in the Trojan War
Apollo: chasing daphne
Artemis: so you like girls now?
Apollo: yes
Apollo: hanging with hyacinthus
Artemis: so you like boys now?
Apollo: yes
Artemis: I dont get it. Boys, girls, who do you like???
Apollo: _yes_
Ah, so Apollo is bi.
Oh I know that vine!
Could be gayer
@@hannahthesneezingpanda582 all I'm getting now is flashbacks to when Cap goes 'I got that reference!' in Avengers
Eh it's ancient Greece, if it has a nice round muscular booty, it's worth chasing
"Ever do something so gay and so sweet it's literally talked about thousands of years later?" Hopefully one day, Red. One day.
Whitney S and just like Thomas sander says could be gayer
I think she's more of an Athena than a Sappho in this
Life goals.
@@mme.veronica735 Sappho: You ever see a girl so pretty that you literally become incapable of weaving?
Let's be honest, future historians will just describe you as "a very good friend" because that's apparently what they do. :/
I actually suggested we named out LGBTQ+ club at school the "Cut sleeve club" because of the myth, they went with it and that's what we got put into the yearbook as
Cute xp
I wish my school had a clup like that, but it's so small there's probably be like 5 kids at most. Also i live in the South sooo
pog
@@ThomasTheThermonuclearBomb Yikes :( My school had an LGBT club but I felt immediately out of place there
@@Ardorstorm Yeaaa southern life is very yikes having to hide myself from everyone. At least i can go to college in the north soon, maybe they won't hate me for existing there. I do feel that tho, feeling out of place from other grsm kids
Athena and Artemis being the cool cousins at family gathers who ignore aphrodite's attempts to set them up
Athena just sits in a corner polishing various weaponry, muttering that she'd be happy to put her sword in Aphrodite's face if she doesn't shut up. Meanwhile Artemis is at the table with everyone else and keeps waving Aphrodite away before getting into a massive fight with Zeus because he keeps making lewd remarks about her nymph friends.
@@audreydimmel6674 yes
aroace icons they helped me realize i was aroace
Cool half siblings*
@Audrey Dimmel and Hestia is in the fireplace vibing
Athena: While you were having questionable relationships with mortals I studied the blade
XD
I read that in Red's voice...
We love asexual memes tho
I see you are a person of culture as well.
I'm ace and wiccan, Athena is my patron goddess, when I found out about this, it made even more sense!
Hestia: Athena is at that very special age of her life where she's thinking of one thing.
Aphrodite: Boys?
Athena: Homicide
Athena, goddess of war:
"Like her father, Athena enjoys fucking the human race. Unlike her father, she does not take it literally."
Athena, meet Wednesday Addams. Wednesday, meet Athena.
@@nathanielhellerstein5871 um...i don't think you wanna see the musical then...
Did you get that from something Game of Thrones related?
Beautiful
_Man and woman in history sitting near each other_
Historians: They must be married!
_Woman and woman in history in a literal relationship_
Historians: *F IS FOR FRIENDS, WHO DO STUFF TOGETHER-*
U IS FOR YOU AND MEEEEE
@@ratkinglmaoN IS FOR ANYWHERE AT ANY TIME AT ALL!
@@heatherramirez6141 Down here in the deep blue sea 🌊😎
@@teehee4096 Pele be like: *F IS FOR FIRE THAT BURNS TOWN THE WHOLE TOWN-*
Infinitely sad that Tamamizu didn't get to live out her life with her cute empress GF and instead went back to being a sad fox spirit.
I would like this comment, but I can't because the image of a sad fox spirit is by itself enough to make me wanna cry.
Agreed :(
Edit: I did like your comment ❤️
Someone needs to fix this.
I would absolutely watch an anime that follows Tamamizu doing weekly "fox shenanigans" while hiding it from her beloved mistress.
@@Vinemaple ikr it feels like it's made for it
Lesbians in the past: my soul burns without you, Theodora, and your touch fuels me. I am but a husk of a woman without your graceful presence, and my every moment apart from you is a moment I wish my lips were locked with yours.
Historians: pfffff just two gals being pals
Hcigcigdigcih THIS
"oH tHeY WerE sUcH gReAt FRiEndS"
Achilles and his... "Cousin" which was not a deal breaker in Ancient Greece (See Herakles)
✨Gal Pals✨
d'ya ever wonder if these historians just accidentally surround themselves in lesbians and are just stunningly oblivious to this? I mean it's almost certainly not true, but it's funny to think about
Beings of opposite gender: sit near each other
Historians: Looks about married
Beings of the same gender: sleep together, goes on a killing rampage bc the other died,write poetry about each other
Historians: Isn't friendship beautiful
Achilles really went ✨✨ 💔 🌯 🥺 🥀 😠 🗡️ 🗡️ ✨✨ when he found out Patroclus died, now didn't he.
Movies:*cousins*
@@mateusmartinsjunior6506 im still upset bc of that
The thing is that we have to take care to not put our modern concepts in ancient civiliziations. In a culture where close friends kissing would be common, it's not just because two figures, be they from opposite or same sex, are kissing that this would mean that they were a couple. 19th century historians definetely normally put their own believes above when analizing other cultures, but we have to take care to not think that every ancient civilization was super "progressive" and LGBT friendly when these concepts didn't even exist back then.
@@apenasmaisumdiogo.7115 yes they did. gay people have been around for millennia. they have always been there, this isn't a new thing.
Athena: loves no one
Ares: just wants someone to love him.
Ares does have a open relationship with Aphrodite.
Though he probably needs a lot of platonic love
@@moondivine2288 I thought that was more of a @#$& buddy situation
@@InShane162 it’s hard to say because myths haves different versions. But in one version Ares killed Adonis out of jealousy. Aphrodite also killed one of Ares lovers out of jealousy. I forgot who though.
Ares and Aphrodite having a open relationship should sum it up. Or they’re probably the type of people that are kinda serious but don’t like putting labels on their relationship. Idk.
Ares: Can anybody find me somebody to love?
Athena: nobody
Ares: somebody
Athena: NOBODY
Ares: SOMEBODY
Ares: CAN. ANYBODY. FIND. ME-
*bonk*
Athena: -a new spear. I hit Ares too hard
@@j_fenrir kitty tried to get someone banned by telling a bunch of people to report them. The person was gay and kitty is homophobic. That’s why btw
When you're pansexual: *Aphrodite holds ALL the power over me.*
@FreedomFighter "When you're/Greyromantic/Polysexual: I'm Mother Instar's, herald, and _"Psycho, for hire."_ "
**laugh in panromantic asexual**
@@daliborvranic1665 "I make Aphrodite wildly confused"
Stay away from the kitchen utensils!
We have
Gay emperor,
Lesbian Goddess,
Bi God,
Ace Goddess,
Gender fluid deity,
Lesbian Kitsune,
Gay god.
The straights better watch out, we are more powerful than they realize
Artemis is asexual, I think. Ace/demiro.
Andrew Carmichael hell like from what I’ve seen most of the male Olympians are bi so
@@completeepicness5070 Orion. Just...Orion was a greek myth. Now thinking on it, she was likely some form of Demi since she only fell for Orion after they had a very close friendship, but she then did kill him so.....
Non binary kitsune too
Historians really do be like: “They are so cool for kissing the homies goodnight. And making sure they are tucked in tight. And joining them in bed to warm them up just right. And-
Everyone else: “Gay?”
Historians: “NAH!”
The historic term is "HOMIESEXUAL"
@@apophis7712
Hey hey.
We all know that if you say "No homo" within 5 minutes of banging your homie...then it's legally NOT gay.
Jameela Gill can confirm
also historians: oh, a man is in close proximity of a woman, THEY'RE MARRIED
@@jameelagill5408 air force vet can confirm.
today I learned the story about Pele and Hi'iaka is actually a lot more detailed than Red laid it out to be: Pele had fallen in love with a _particular_ mortal man and sent her sister Hi'iaka to bring him to her, having her swear an oath to return in forty days and not fall in love with him herself, but when Hi'iaka arrived she found that the man had died waiting for Pele, so she had to resurrect him, so the trip took longer. Pele grew jealous, believing that Hi'iaka had stolen the man for herself so in a rage she burned down the grove and turned Hopoe to stone.
So there you have it, Pele is the only goddess so dumb she thinks her man's being stolen by her gay sister.
Imagine that conversation unfolding.
"What do you mean 'I was stealing your man', I am _gay_ you dumb bitch!"
hi’iaka: im lesbian
pele: i thought u were hawaiian
@@aarasko XD
Except she's not gay cuz she than goes on to sleep with the guy to spite her sister for turning her gf to stone.
@@lassesgamekanaal so she was bi
Fun fact about Xochipilli, he was always sculpted as an absolute HUNK with all the aztec marks of beauty
So you're saying that Xochipilli was the perfect man, according to the Aztecs? Neat.
@@justaghostinthesea well, the Aztec gods have been described as "thirsty" . . .
@@JamesJoy-yc8vs Ah, not too different from the Greek ones, then!
“Cutting your sleeve was a euphemism for being gay”
Me: *looks at all the lesbians who refuse to wear anything other than tank tops* It finally makes sense
does that make them double gay? missing two sleeves?
voodoodummie hell yeah
I feel called out
* wears plaid and square-patterned button-ups and tank-tops *
(._. ')
You weren’t supposed to know
Do you like boys or girls?
Apollo: YES
Artemis: NO
Athena: Gentlemen I like WAR
Points for the TFS quote.
@@maaxorus It's... just from the normal Hellsing OVA
No, I don’t like war. I LOVE WAR!!!!
Nah. She wasn't into war. She was into wisdom...including strategy....until the Romans got hold of her.
Also, she was ace af.
Hestia: I like SMORES!
We all gonna forget that a goddess of joy literally did a strip dance to lure Amaterasu out of a cave? And that it worked?
I really like that the game Okami, which is heavily inspired by Japanese mythology, has Amaterasu being hella bisexual in it. She has the form of a wolf in the game and never speaks, but there are MULTIPLE moments where the game makes a point of her being distracted by staring at big booba women
@@IceFireofVoidLol, right?! 😆 I seriously need to replay that game sometime soon 😁
5:30 can I just say “the prince of flowers” is the FRUITIEST title I think I’ve ever heard for someone
2 female godesses: *are literally married to each other*
Historians: Such good friends!
2 gods of oposite sex: *are depicted on the same page once*
Historians: They were married!
lol
i see no lies here u-u
Heteronormalty ahoy!
ahh i love historical bies
God Damn it.
“So do you like men or women”
Greek Gods: Yes
Artemis: meh.
Athena: *no*
@@aclassicguardsman946 Athena: WAR, give me the strategem!!
Hades: Persephone.
Artemis, Athena, and Hestia: No
Fun fact: My English teacher played this on the last day of high school this past year. I've never respected someone more
Big shout out to my three favorite goddesses of asexuality: Athena, Hestia, and Red.
(Seriously, Red, I so love that such a prominent figure in the online community is not only so positive toward the ace community but is also a part of it herself. Thank you so much for representing us so well.)
(If you're wondering about Artemis, she's okay, but she's not nearly as cool as the other three in my opinion.)
Ha HA haaa Red is totally a goddess from some forgotten mythos
YES ACE ICONS AS AROACE MYSELF THANK Y
@@brookedickson4118 Goddess of songs, stories, art, music and astronomy. Protector of doggos.
I'm just wondering about Artemis, is it because she kills boys, is thought by many to have been with(but actually wasn't) with girls/Orion? I don't know why this has been playing on my mind. Or is it just cuz you don't think she is as cool as the others and that's it?
@@FennecFeather-wx7jj I have nothing against Artemis, although I feel like she could have toned down a few of her punishments, especially when it comes to the honest mistakes of some mortals. I just don't connect with a goddess of the hunt and the wilds as much as the goddesses of wisdom and the home and hearth.
Transcript: They were definitely gay. Like married with an adopted child gay. They had sex very often and literally didn't like women at all. They've been friends since childhood with eyes for no one but eachother.
Historians: Lmao they were just buddies.
Historian: you see he was actually married because one line in his diary states that he stood next to a woman for 12 seconds
Damn bruh, is this MDZS?
@@lillithmercado3185 this, this commentary. I mean you're right
That's not untrue though.
They probably just didn't call it gay back then.
Consider this line:
"Judas betrayed jesus with a kiss"
Why must people overlook this time and again?
Sometimes i wonder why do straights have such sad sad concept of love
"Cutting your sleeve was a euphemism for being gay"
Me planning on how to come out:
*P E R F E C T*
Same, I want to design a shirt SPECIFICALLY for this purpose now :D
Did it work? Because I'm not sure if others will understand the cut sleeve thing
@@applesource8261 I personally haven't tried it yet because I still have to live with my parents for a few months, but I'm sure if you explained it then it would work fine. Or if maybe you brought that fact up randomly to whoever you're coming out to and then cut your sleeves it would work.
@@valerieh.8654 I wish you all the luck in the world for when you come out
@@applesource8261 Thank you very much, I wish you luck too!
2:51 “And instead of spending her time on romantic shenaniganary, prefers to spend her time on the art of war.”
Mood.
Red :”despite the stereotypes most of his relationships don’t actually end in tragedy” 1:58
Also red: singlehandedly spreads stereotype to 1.5 million people everytime she brings up Apollo
You gotta keep 'em on their toes
Dong Xian, waking up: "Hey dude, your sleeve's off."
Emperor Ai: "You wanna see the rest of the robe off too?"
LMAO I'M LIVING FOR THAT
Dam-
Nice comment
Wasn’t there another emperor during the spring and autumn period who forbade all beautiful women from entering the city because his male lover said something like “but I’m just a man, when you see a beautiful woman, you will leave me.”
NOPE!
"Yes."
That moment when you go through all the trouble of turning into a human only to get stuck in the handmaid-zone
Oof, that one hurt
Anyone else just love Artemis and Athena for their ‘no love just war’ vibes and Hestia for being such a amazingly peaceful being
More of a no war just love person, but I do like athena xp
“Every month is pride month if you allow yourself to be consumed by hubris!” is my new favorite quote.
I imagined an 1800s British explorer/gentleman shouting that with a hand in the air walking off into the distance.
This needs to be on a shirt!
Which video is this quote in, I need it
@@chicknorton8839 This one. It is in the credits where Red sings.
@@moon_girl4468 But isn't a video where she says this?
Gay couple in the past: *literally boning*
Historians: they're very good friends and definitely not gay :) bros being bros
Dudes bein' doodes
David and Jonathan.
Guys being guys
Oh my god they were friends
@@BlackEpyon Some people say Ruth and Naomi too.
"You ever do something so sweet and so gay people are talking about it 2000 years later?" No, but now I know what I wanna do with my life!
people: genderfluid people are just a new made-up thing
me: * points a bunch of shapeshifting ancient gods *
Loki and Odin: Honestly, kids these days
@@craytherlaygaming2852 hey transphobe, Still here?
Inari...
Athena’s like: why do romance when you can do *GLORIOUS BATTLE*
Honestly? Mood.
I felt that
while you studied romance, i studied the blade!!
sex is great, but have you ever perfectly outmaneuvered an enemy and crushed his will to resist?
Athena: "Some say that love is war, but war is war and love is love, and of the two, I choose war." *grabs spear and charges off*
Oh, what I would give to be a genderless being that can change forms on will and do favors for mortals to get those happiness chemicals.
Ah yes, non-binary goals. At their finest.
And turn into a giant dragon and/or snake
Honestly I just would take the dragon form
Same
Yes Winger Shadow the god of happiness chemicals! You are amazing
I am a genderless being! Non-binary but I can’t change my appearance at will. Wish I could tho
My parents named me after Athene because she was my dad’s favorite goddess. I grew up to be demisexual. My name was more fitting than my parents initially thought.
Except athena isn't exactly demisexual she's strictly asexual but okay.
I’m fully aware of that. Demisexuality is under the asexuality umbrella, however, in that people who are demisexual experience sexual attraction on a very limited scale. Many people I know who identify as demisexual, myself included, tend to label themselves as asexual for convenience’s sake because it’s easier to explain that to allosexual folks than it is to try to explain demisexuality.
@@CynicalBibliophile personally I strongly disagree with that but alright.
@@lassesgamekanaalYou are entitled to your opinion. It changes absolutely nothing for me.
@@CynicalBibliophile fair enough
Since Hestia isn’t mentioned a lot, I got curious and looked her up on Google.
Apparently, when both Apollo and Poseidon asked for her hand in marriage, she decided “Screw it” and devoted her life to maiden hood. That is hilarious.
"[...] Nor yet does poor maiden Hestia love Aphrodite's works (i.e, love).
She was the first-born child of wildly Kronos and youngest too, by the will of Zeus who holds the aegis.
A Queenly maid whom both Poseidon and Apollon sought to wed--but she was wholly unwilling, nay stubbornly refused, and touching the head of Father Zeus who holds the aegis, she that fair Goddess told an oath that in truth had been fulfilled: that she would remain a maiden all her days.
So Zeus the Father gave her a high honor instead of marriage: that would lead the home and richest the portion. And among all moral men, she is chief of the goddesses."
Homeric Hymn 5 to Aphrodite.
This is from the top of my head as Lady Hestia is my matron deity, as a Hellenic pagan.
straights: there's nothing in history about lgbtq+
mythology: are you sure about that
mythology: well no, but actually hell no
Why you presume that every hetero is homophobic crypto-gay terrified that someone can convince actual hetero to be a homosexual? What for reminder is impossible.
TheRezro where tf did you pull all that from lmao
@@TheRezro it's a common joke in the lgbtq+ community, we are not saying that all straight people are terrible (that's stupid) we're saying that The Straights(tm) are terrible
@@thatonethatslikeyeahtotlyt1077 what's the difference between "straight people" and "straights (tm)"?
Historians: And they were roommates...
Us: 𝒪𝒽 𝓂𝓎 𝑔𝑜𝒹 𝓉𝒽𝑒𝓎 𝓌𝑒𝓇𝑒 𝓇𝑜𝑜𝓂𝓂𝒶𝓉𝑒𝓈
And they were lovers....
Oh my god, they were best friends!!
How did you get this font
font,how?tell!
I can't even read this :(
@@balan4774 there are heaps of ways you can do it, but a really common one people use is 𝐼𝒢 𝒻𝑜𝓃𝓉𝓈! Just search up IG fonts on google and you should be able to find it. Write out what you want to say, and copy your preferred font.
2:14 nice to know that gods get second-hand embarrassment, too. Also, just look at Apollo's face. That's so adorable 🥺
Ikr? OSP draws the cutest boys ever
I just picture him ripping his sleeve and cue that scene from Mulan but altered: "Now all of China knows you are gay"
History: and they were in love
Historians: and by god they were roommates
God... Damnit XD
aNd tHeY wHeRe RŒÖMÆTĘŠ (roommates)
there's these two mummies that are both make with paintings of them kissing on the walls of their tomb and historians called them close friends
And sometimes they do the opposite. Finds a grave with 2 men and immediately makes the assumption that it was a gay couple.
The interpretations are colored by our own contemporary political values.
Just guys being pals. Nothing to see but that manly bond of friendship XD
Apollo: *literally bi*
Historians: they just thought they were doubly manly
Apollo: *the most feminine god* bruh!?
It was pretty much that to be fair, as Ancient Greece (mainly Athens) was deeply patriarchalist and mysoginistic, we could say. Obviously that doesn't mean that LGBT people didn't exist back then, but men couldn't live together, for example, and people in "eromenos" and "erastes" relationships were still expected to marry women.
@@apenasmaisumdiogo.7115In Sparta the women however had it a lot better and Crete was even matriarchist. Just saying.
@@decoral definetely yes. There is even a theory that Theseus leaving Ariadne behind in the myth of the minotaur is a symbolism of how Athens was "leaving behind" the matriarchalist model that presumably existed in Crete
@@apenasmaisumdiogo.7115 Theseus did marry Ariadne's sister Phaedra though.
Thank you! Theseus is considered an representation of Athens power, so they believed that he killing the Minotaur would represent Athens beconing the new hegemony power in the region, instead of Crete. I don't know about his marriage with Phaedra either though
"Looks like the shippers are at it again"
I think shippers existed for as long as humans did.
I wish I could have showed this video to my English teacher that didn't believe LGBTQ+ history was a thing
Oof
Apollo: I want a boyfriend
Artemis: what'll you do when you get one?
Apollo: get another
So many people in and out of his bedroom they should install a revolving door
@@TheRagingStorm98 this is gold
Get a girl friend then another boy friend takes love everyone to a epic level.
Apollo is the ultimate polyam bi
tell me why i read the first line in selena gomez’s voice lmao
Emperor Ai: My boyfriend wanted to nap, and that's why I destroyed this imperial sleeve. Any questions?
Every gay man in China: *rips off sleeve* Nope
Something soo sweet and gay that people still aww and don't question at all these days👍
I love this too much
NOOOOOOOOOOOOPE ( Actually it’s really sweet that he did that like: Relationship: Level 100000000
*siiiiigh*
I know I'm ridiculously late and I just learned this but this story turns tragic in the end. After Emperor Ai died, the Dowager Empress, who was disapproving of Emperor Ai and Dong Xian's relationship, took action against Dong Xian. This was mainly because court officials had been riled up by Dong Xian's rapid ascent to the top of the royal court by "seducing the emperor". Dong Xian, fearing for his life, committed suicide with his wife and family. Oh yeah I forgot Dong Xian had a wife and family
Emperor Ai was unable to have heirs, because of some reason or another, some say he was physically unable to, an extremely biased source says he was "too busy sinfully banging men to bang his wife" (this was in a children's comic book by the way, I wrote to the publisher about this extremely homophobic issue but have not heard back since). He promised the throne to Dong Xian, which was almost unheard of, passing the throne to a court official when it should have been to a family relative, to keep the bloodline pure. This, as you may expect, pissed off a lot of people.
@@mellowdie-deranged BRUUUHHHHHH
half of the japanese stories I was like: why does this feel so much like an anime
WAIT
Because what better place to take inspiration from than your own history and mythology? I mean, it's not like european media draws heavily from christian mythos, right?
@@aprinnyonbreak1290 that's the joke
Two girls/boys: *Loved each other, frequently sent each other love letters, lived together until they died, were buried together*
Historians: Oh my god, they were roommates
Artemis (totally didn't say Athena before, don't know what you're talking about), asexual, but collecting lesbians: "I just think they're neat."
Do you mean Artemis?
@@completeepicness5070 Yes. Yes I do. But now Athena is bi. I will it to be.
@@eshasunrise Athena isn't bi. She is aromantic asexual, like Hestia. Artemis is demiromantic asexual, and that was only one guy.
@@pettylisa5599 idk ive always read them as just really good friends because of historians need to make everything straight
also its just fun to flip the script
@@pettylisa5599 Athena just doesn't do the sex thing. She can however make brain childs.
Athena, probably: "While you were busy getting mortals pregnant, I studied the Art of War"
Or invented stuff, she invented a lot of stuff
Basically "while you were out being stupid, I was studying the blade"
did she tell that to Aphrodite or to Zeus and Poseidon
@@Dinoman972 Yes
She is a true role model.
I just imagine while Apollo was being outrageously gay to that king, Aphrodite was laughing uncontrollably
Everytime I see the term cut sleeve being used I get super close to crying.
It's such a beautiful and loving story.
Achilles: Fan of pride.
Hubris and his own gender both.
I was waiting for someone to make this pun
Achilles is one of the few Greek heroes whose flaw isn't pride but wrath.
@@sportsracer48 Actually, you're right.
@@thornless_flora I'd switch it to Alexander but that's Blue's ballpark.
His deadly flaw may have been Wrath, but Achilles was still damn prideful, so I think it works
He cut of his sleeve to show off his MASSIVE muscles for his boyfriend
If you see a character with one sleeve in anime they're gay I don't make the rules it's historical precident
Himbo rights
Wait, FGO Kojiro.
I don't imagine many emperors had huge guns as they are mostly buried in paperwork or buried themselves in pleasure. There were warring kingdoms era kings that had to have some degree of martial skill but that only holds true if you don't have kick a** generals below you.
They gotta work out for that boy they like tho.
I like to imagine Tamamizu's adoptive human parents totally knew their kid was gay and in love with this rich girl, and were 100% supportive and helped arrange things so they could be happy. (Also... did they ever find out the truth? I hope they didn't just think their child disappeared off the face of the earth!)
Susan Mesler-Evans From what I found through independent research, the thing that finally pushed Tamamizu into leaving was her mother dying of illness. So I don't know about the dad, but aside from him the family wasn't around to be abandoned.
Actually, the mother ends op recovering, and the story implies tatamizu had to tell her about her nature cuz it was another fox spirit wich was making her mother sick, wich tamamizu explained to her, so presumably she told her about herself. It'd not said whether after tamamizu leaves her crush wether she goes back to her adoptive parents or just leaves altogether to live with her fox siblings again.
5:03 my heart, my soul
Someone: **accidentally rips sleeve**
Ancient Chinese emperor: Lol gay
“断袖cutting sleeve” literally means “gay” in Chinese. It's like how “gay” use to mean “being happy” but so many people use it for “homosexual love” that the meaning changed. But more like a proverb or idiom.
Fucking hell, now Chang is the Emperor in my head
Well, china has “tu’ershen” who’s basically a homosexual god. Yes, china have a personification of gay as a deity.
@@olegvolkov7365 Yes would recommend the story of tuershen to everyone. It's rather sweet. Dare I say most ancient China gay stories are pretty sweet and wholesome.
I was wearing an Avatar:TLA shirt with the gAang on it and my (left) sleeve ripped.
Hm...
Admetus: “So you’re cool with me wanting to be with Alcestis?”
Apollo: “Are you kidding? Of course! She’s cute, you’re cute. Perfect fit!”
Admetus: “Honestly thought you’d be jealous and I’d be in trouble.”
Apollo: “What? Who do you think I am? Hera?”
“Just don’t let her take your place if you’re fated to die or anything!”
“How weirdly specific!”
To be fair, Hera's married to zeus, and is literally the goddess of marriage. She's one of literally 4 gods, the other three being the virgin goddesses, to *never* fuck around with mortals.
@@selonianth As far as we know, Hades also never fucked around with mortals.
@@cayreet5992 weil, after obducting his later wife, I actualy cant recall any stories of his, only Persephone beeing into others
Well, je totaly ruined cassandras life for not wanting him . . .
2:33 dang
looks like someone's gonna be devoured by his own hounds.
You missed Indian stories. Especially stories related to Lord Shiva. About how he blessed 2 queens with a baby in they fell in love with each other. And his and lord parvati's form where they both merged into each other to create a form which was neither male nor female.
Also there is goddess of transgender and intersexual people. I can't remember her name right now but I have heard that she is really famous in Indian transgender community.
@@reeti5958 don't worry,the world is big. but they'll put that in their next pride edition
@@Surya_Virya yeah, she said that their are others which she didn't cover in the video.
I just became excited in telling stories related to my culture. 😅
Proffesor Oak: Are you a boy or a girl?
Boy
Girl
Giant dragon
-->Giant spider
Jorogumo?
Kumanga?
You forgot giant fox.
@@starshade7826 She forget that Inari is actually a one deity, with Zenko Kitsune being his servants and confusion about his gander is mostly due to fact that Kitsune tend to posses people of opposite gander, with most famous of his hosts being females Tamamo-no-Mae and Daji (yes, most popular Japanese deity also was historically one of most malicious entities in existence, before he was converted by Buddhist monk). Though it is mostly semantic as she isn't incorrect in the description itself.
Dude I absolutely need a shirt with “Aphrodite has no sway over me” and the asexual pride flag on it
then buy it
YES
YES OMG BUT MAKE ALTERNATE VERSIONS TOO WITH ARO AND DEMI AND GRAY ACE BUT CHANGE THE WORDS SLIGHTLY FOR EACH ONE. Like for Demi, “Aphrodite doesn’t have sway over me... yet.” Or for gray ace, “Aphrodite perhaps has sway over me.” Lollll that’d be so cute!
“Venus” might sound a bit better
if they ever make this, I would, NO MATTER WHAT, MAKE IT THE FIRST THING I BUY FROM THEM!!!!
Headcanon that the greeks would explain heat waves as apollo's reaction to mildly offensive homophobic comments.
That explains the southern usa
I like to think that it went down like this:
Tamamizu (to other kitsune): I need a cool leaf for a competition.
[THREE DAYS LATER]
Random kitsune: Sorry it took so long.
Tamamizu: It's okay. What did you find?
Kitsune: Well, we found this orange one. And this spiky one with stripes. And this five-pointed one with the entire Lotus Sutra on it. Oh, and *this* one has little black spots in an arch!
Tamamizu: ... What.
The tale of Tamamizu is like every unrequited gay fanfiction and i t m a k e s m y h e a r t w e e p
I wonder where she found that version. The version I heard of the story depicted the fox as more malicious, causing the king to fall ill among other things.
@@yonatanbeer3475 you're talking about tamamo no mae
It's unfortunate because the fox knew where this was going from the start; they specifically turned into a woman because they figured marrying a fox spirit would be bad for their love interest, so they shot themself in the foot deliberately from the start. Ouch.
I was waiting for her to turn around and fall in love with her handmaiden but it didn’t happen
Kept waiting for the "princess eventually falls for the handmaiden" moment... But it never came.
Do you like boy or girls?
Apollo: *YES*
Athena: *No*
Honestly same
@@menezes3388 More like sometimes.
Hades: Uh uh- PERSEPHONE-
Athena: No.
Lgbt history is so rich. Indigenous history is also rich ans beautiful. Erasure of records, art, poetry, books and music wont stop us from being who we are. Censoring this shit isn't either. As if straight white men were the only ones with culture throughout time, its an absurd idea. Thanks for sharing this ancient lgbt history x
2:40 I mean, *Aphrodite ain't wrong*
Artemis welcomes transwomen in her hunters and they hunt transphobes for sport
Nice fan fiction
Sipriotes could confirm (although It wasn't her choice)
Did you write my immortal?
@jpc1918 that depends on the individual but on average. Yeah
*Master yi mains
“This leaf rules. You’re royalty now”
Me If I was an emperor
Reasons I'm unqualified to be if charge of anything remotely important #5,052
Soooo a pidgeon then?
Big crow energy that man has
The emperor was into goblincore amd I can respect that
As Pride Month starts, I immediately get recommended this.
Nice.
The 1st one is just so fucking adorable literally relationship goles
Yaaaassss
And it’s a historical one rather than a myth too, so it’s REAL
“This leaf rules, you’re royalty now” god I love mythology
Japan leaves are royalty
*Sees a mountain*
HOLY SHIT ITS GOD
"Strange leaves with religious sutras upon them are no basis for deciding upon imperial marriage candidates!"
we all do
To be fair, that sounded like a dope-ass leaf
Let us not forget Achilles lovingly admiring patroclus thighs.
Historians in the background "f is for friends who do stuff together......"
achilles: "mix our ashes and bury us together so we can be with each other for eternity"
historians: yes because they were really good friends
@@yveaszz
Historians: ah yes, they were bros. Just ‘one of the boys’ as they say, haha. Completely heterosexual.
U is for unity, C is for cold night sharing one bed, and K cus they totally FUCKED.
@@yveaszz Fellas, is it gay to want your ashes to be mixed with the homies to be together forever?
Didn't he kill hundreds of trojans and drag hector’s corpse around the city multiple times to avenge Patroclus's death? And didn't they get buried in the same urn? Yup...yeah... All normal best friend things!
WAIT WHY IS THE "CUT SLEEVE" ORIGIN SO CUTE THO???
Aphrodite: Hestia! Hey! So, I found this nice guy-he's a minor deity, real down-to-earth-and he said he's interested in you, and I think you two would be freaking adorable together, so...what do you think? Wanna meet him?
Hestia: Sorry Aphie. I'm...flattered...but I have no time for guys.
Aphrodite: What do you mean? You're immortal!
Hestia: Like I said, no time.
*[A little later]*
Aphrodite: So, Artemis, there's this forest deity that I think you'd hit it off with-
Artemis: FUCK OFF! IT'S GIRL'S NIGHT!
Aphrodite: But...but it's ten in the morning?
Artemis: LIKE I SAID, GIRL'S NIGHT! FUCK OFF!
*[A little later]*
Aphrodite: * already scared * So, Athena, I-whoa, and already you're giving me the death stare. You know what? I'll just walk away. * walks away *
Athena: * continues polishing her massive spear * Good.
*[A little later]*
Aphrodite: * approaches Apollo *
Apollo: * jumps up, already blushing head to foot * OH DAMN, YES! I'M SO EXCITED! WHAT'S THEIR NAME?
Lmao all the ace/aro ones and then Apollo just being a hopeless romantic disaster bi is adorable
I can just imagine people in the past asking "Do you like Sappho's poetry?" just like our modern "Do you listen to Girl in Red?"
omg yes
accurate
This is what I ask all potential gfs
What's girl in red?
wait hang on when did we stop saying 'are you a fan of KD Lang?'
*Two deities sit near eachother* Historians: Ooooh, I spy a romance!
*Man goes into a deadly rage following the death of another man who he used to spend weeks with and write poems about*
Historians: What dedicated homies, amirite? Bros for life!
_cries_
Achilles: Literally wishes for his ashes to be mixed with Patroclus’ (I can’t spell)
Historians: They were great friends. Amazing pals. Just bros being bros, homies being homies.
@@Ar-yp6nh still not over song of achilles, OH WAIT, i'll never get over it😭
😂😂
@@Ar-yp6nh ya spelled it alright
Rewatching this again to get in the spirit of pride!! Love your videos!!
Yeap. Very much doing the same. 🙂
Obligatory recommendation of this video in June. We Stan.
I love Shinto myths cause it's just like "Hey the sun is gay! And so is this fox!" *Points at the sun and holds up Tamamizu by her scruff, who waves* "Oh and the fox god is gender fluid!" *Struggles to lift fox statue*
So sunshine foxes are gay?
@@3tangerine773 No! Gay squared!
@@aflamingidiot4427 Even better.
this is your polite reminder, gentle readers, that Amaterasu was once lured out of a cave by the promise of naked breasts and sensual dancing
i did not make a word of that up that is a real actual thing that happens in shinto legend
@@kiraina25 Red has a video to prove it.