Land Rover LR3 / Off-Road Capability Test / Lower Fins 'N' Things Moab / MILITARY MOBILITY
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- Brian from Military Mobility tests out the 2008 Land Rover LR3 HSE V8, nicknamed "Junior" on the lower Fins 'N' Things trail in Moab, Utah.
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I’m only half way through this video and man I gotta say this is one of the best lr3 videos on TH-cam and I’ve seen them ALL. Awesome to see it taken for a real rip and none of this dirt road mountain bs that any vehicle could do! Great video you should have way more views!
You just made our day! Thank you so much for the kind and encouraging words. Our staff is comprised of Navy SEALs, Marine Force Recon and infantry, Army Rangers, Air Force pilots, and the list goes on. Point is we have lots of mobility training and want to share our love and passion for that. And stay tuned for more aggressive trails ; this was our trial run with the LR3!
One of the best capability videos I've seen. As a 10 year owner of one I can proudly say they are unique.
Thank you for the compliment and letting us know we’re heading in the right direction. Being a long time LR3 owner, would you share your insight as for the strengths and weaknesses of the LR3 over time; anything we need to keep an eye out for or not really have to worry about maintenance tips, etc?
@@MilitaryMobility my family had owned a discovery 3 for getting on 10 years as well (HSE) model. It was fantastic in all aspects up until it's last year where the electronics started to become very expensive! The first problem was the car immobilized it'self... I can't remember the details really but there were some expensive invoices as a result. Mechanically they are pretty decent though. The only bigger issue with the D3 Compared to the D1 & D2 is that you have to removed the entire shell in order to access the gearbox properly, the main bushes etc...
@@engineeruk8667 thanks for sharing your long term experience with the LR3; and sorry to hear of the electronic troubles. Do you have the GAP iid tool? It lets you really dig deep into the vehicles electronics for programming and troubleshooting. We would not been able to repair the air system without it. Best of luck with everything moving forward!
@@MilitaryMobility unfortunately we got rid a couple years ago now - but, I'm intending on getting one myself so it is certainly noted!
People's first reaction to the LRs
air suspension is priceless. It makes all other rigs feal like kiddo toys. Cadillac of off road.
It is a smooth ride, which is especially appreciated from someone with lots of war injuries 🇺🇸
Agree with the other poster. This is the best LR3 capabilities video i've found so far. I will send this to all the haters, and believe me there are many!
Thank you!! Yeah it’s one of the best things about running our courses; everyone shows up having their favorite brand and they get the opportunity to drive all types of rigs that we have. Makes for great discussions and a lot shared understanding. The LR3 are amazingly capable rigs!
Great video! The LR3 is probably the most capable Allrounder with an incredibly smooth ride on and off-road. And they come cheap! Should only be in the hands of somebody who can do some work himself.
Thank you! 🙌 I’d say you pretty much nailed the summary right there!
Great video! I took my lr3 on 29”s on Hells Revenge and porcupine trial last summer, amazing what these things can do 99% stock
Thank you! Yes they are incredibly capable out of the box for sure. We had taken our other LR3 on street slicks out in the Utah mud and we were laughing at what it was going through without effort. Those are really fun trails you did. Keep getting after it!
As others have said, this is probably the best video that shows how capable these vehicles are. I have had mine for over 8 years and I really have not identified another replacement that can do everything it can do at the price point you can pick these up for.
You’ve made our day! Thank you for the kind words. We love sharing adventure and inspiration with others. Great to see long term ownership is keeping you just as pleased as we are!
Thanks so much for showing the off-road capabilities of this. I've been on Auto Trader in England for the last two days looking for a good deal.
Every TH-cam video I've seen so far are guys driving around urban towns complaining about gas milage and that it doesn't have an extra cup holder.
Thanks for keeping it Alpha. 🤛
Ha! You just made our day!! 🙌 Best of luck with the search… and don’t tell those tools about the secret extra cup holder on the passenger dash 😉
Love the Land Rover Content, especially the air vs coil video! Keep up the great work.
Thank you so much for the wonderful feedback!! ❤🙌 The Air vs Coil is an 8 episode series that we are very proud of. Thanks and see you on the trail!!
Great video guy's! I do the same with my LR3. One thing a lot of people don't know is that in hill decent mode you can adjust the speed using your controls on the steering wheel. So far this thing will go anywhere I take it. Mud, rock, snow, water it plows through it all.
Awesome pro tip! Thanks for sharing this with everyone 🙌. This the kind of interactions we love having. We’re stoked to hear you’re using your rig for what it’s meant for; everything!
That’s it I’ve seen enough…I’m getting a LR as my first overlander. Awesome video on the stock capabilities of LR! 👏
🙌ha! Love reading this one! Best of luck and thank you for the compliment, so glad you enjoyed it!!!
Bought back my LR3 from the person i sold it to an year ago. Best purchase ever! Not making the mistake of selling it again
Thanks for sharing, glad to hear it’s back in the family!🙌
Jersey plates! Lol. Used to do work for the Rover dealer in Avenel before they closed. Now Im in Colorado and own a LR3 after countless wranglers. Would NEVER go back to Jeep again.
One of the best lr3 videos out there
Thank you sir! We’re about to publish another of the LR3 on Poison Spider Mesa which is rated higher than Fins and Things. It’s really rewarding for us to be able to share our passion for adventure with others. 🙌🇺🇸
Guys, you heard it below. One of the best no b.s. simple, straight forward off-road challenge tests done on an LR3. I took my 2013 LR4 on a solo 2000 mile "5 deserts of SoCal" trip and spent the entire time grinning and saying "Man this vehicle is awesome!" (to myself, while laughing manically and doing crazy routes.) Glad to see some great driving, excellent mechanical sympathy, and open minds. Note, you probably want to get rid of the Duratracks and replace them with something with beefier sidewalls sooner rather than later. They look new but have a horrible reputation. Most LR3/LR4 owners are running BFG KO2s (LT version). I also ran Cooper S/T MAXX but they're super heavy, pretty noisy, and ended up backtracking to Falken Wildpeak AT3Ws (only XL.) When I do the next 2000 miles solo, I'd probably switch the Coopers back on. I would not EVER go anywhere off-grid with the Duratracks. Anyway, great stuff. Also, sounds like a great team you have and a great mission. Keep kicking ass. If y'all are interested you can check out my "wheels and tires" post and my trip posts over at troyangrignon dot com
Great stuff and thanks for sharing your journey with the LR4. As for the tires, we chose the Duratracs as both our LR3’s live in the snow and no tire performs as well both on the trail and in the snow. We have a large community that run them up here and have had positive experiences. On our other rigs that are more trail only focused we run BFG’s exclusively, great tires too.
@@MilitaryMobility Got it. Was not actually aware of their effectiveness in the snow. Just keep hearing about sidewall punctures with them. Regardless, you guys have come from “out of nowhere” and are already providing some of the best TH-cam LR content out there. Great work.
Great video. What a brilliant testing ground to show off the LR3s capabilities. This has given me confidence to take mine out into the elements.
We are thrilled to hear this! That is what our main goal is; to inspire others that any obstacle - no matter how great - can be overcome. So excited for you, be sure to share your experience with us on Instagram #fortheroadahead or our Facebook page. Have fun👍
Great video, thanks for suggesting it the other day. Very impressive capability, to be honest, I had written these off for quite a while because of the fully independent suspension, but clearly for less than totally hardcore stuff its not really an issue. I did a little research, one thing that impresses me about these is the crawl ratio. It's about 44 to 1 on these, on my 4Runner it's only 33 to 1. Now to find one locally to test drive!
Amazing vid
Excellent review and wheeling of an LR3, Ive owned and wheeled LandRovers for over 30 years, well done. They are an amazing vehicle when driven correctly and when you understand the systems at play.
Thank you Rich! Great insight from a long time Land Rover owner!!🙌
You guys rock ! Land Rover is no joke, takes you there and back with ease and bone stock !
Thank you! You’re going to love our LR3 air vs coil series when it releases in Sep!
@@MilitaryMobility I will be on the look out for the release. I subscribed because you guys are straight up honest in these reviews. Total respect my brothers.
I love my rovers and cant thank you guys enough by showing what these rigs can really do and give joy to the owners. Until you own and drive one it is hard to dismiss the chat about how horrible rovers are but if you really think about it, you dont need to modify one to keep up with the modified Jeeps and other brands etc.
Take the Toyota’s as an example, you need to beef it up to be on par with the rover and in the end you spend more on them than a rover. Same goes with the Jeeps out there that cost a lot of $$$$ like Harley’s etc.
I love my Jeep and Toyota’s but the most fun so far is the rover collection I have. Thanks again guys. You are all awesome and God bless us all.
I AM A FAN OF THE VIDEOS THAT YOU. I AM A FAN OF THE VIDEOS YOU MAKE, FOR THE SIMPLE REASON OF RESPECT TO THE CAR, AND WHAT APPEARS IN FRONT OF YOU AS INSURMOUNTABLE, AND YOU RESPECT AND OBSERVE, EVEN SO, I SEE A LOT OF THINGS ON TH-cam AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT IS THE BEST IN OFF ROADS IN MY HUMBLE VISION. A STRONG HUG FROM CARIOCA (RIO DE JANEIRO / BRAZIL). CONTINUE ON THIS PATH, HAPPY NEW YEAR, Military Mobility
Happy New Year sir and thank you very much!!🙌
Great video, awesome driving skills. Very smooth my friend! :)
Thank you! We’re pleased you value our military style of vehicle preservation 👍. You’re going to love watching our LR3 comparison series between our coil and air suspension equipped rigs.
@@MilitaryMobility I went with the coils a few years back and never been happier. Here in Canada the winters are too rough for the air compressors and ride height sensors etc.
excellent video really showcases the capabilities - wow this thing has some features and ability!
Thanks Chris! It’s been fun making these videos and sharing our experiences. Check out our LR3 on Poison Spider vid where the terrain gets tougher! Thanks again and see you on the trail🙌
@@MilitaryMobility well.. if you're ever over in Australia, then yes! see you on the trail!
@@christopherkellett7579 all we need is a reason! We made our bones from mobility operations during overseas deployments. Would be so much fun doing an Australian excursion! 🙌
Great video.
Thank you very much; we’re glad that it’s being received well! 🙌🇺🇸
LR LR3 is an awesome rig. Rear locker with that terrain system is amazing if you find one. Great video👍🏻
Thank you! We really appreciate the encouraging feedback. You rock!
Awesome video guys! I was pushed into my LR3 by a huge jeep guy because I wanted something a little out of the ordinary. I didn't really believe him when he told me how capable they were! With that center and rear locker I have not gotten stuck in anything as of yet! And this video really shows everyone what I can't show them!
He didn’t steer you wrong! We primarily were Jeepers too (we currently have a LJ, TJ, and WJ) but wanted to have a variety of vehicles at our courses for folks to test out and see what they like best. I’ve been trained on Land Rovers by the military as we use them overseas so it was a natural fit. We now have two of the LR3’s; one air suspension and one with the coil conversion. Look for our comparison video coming this spring! Best of luck with your rig👍
That's my dream vehicle......Thanks for the video...... I have an old 1999 ML320 ......and it does go through some crazy stuff ......I maily drive it through the Arizona desert .......
Thanks for checking in with us, I’ve always wanted to drive one of the ML320’s and see how it does; seems like a fun platform. Keep on getting outside an exploring🙌
Awesome Video Guy!
Love what you do!
LR3/4's are great all rounders.
At 0:45 you mention a back up system for the air suspension coming in a
future video.
I would be really interested in this as I have considered doing the same thing.
Hopefully it would increase the chance of get me back home if the system fails on a remote beach.
Looking forward to seeing what you come up with.
Thank you sir! 👍 We love running expeditions and training, and sharing our adventures with others. We’ve done a deep dive on the back up system for the air suspension in our LR3 shoot-out where we do a full scale comparison of the air suspension vs. the coil conversion. Be sure to subscribe and get updates of our new content as it will be getting released shortly!
Thank you for this excellent video!
Greatly appreciated! Thank you for the encouraging words. We’re posting our LR3 capabilities II video shortly, where we take it on even more aggressive terrain!
@@MilitaryMobility to point
Great Video. Have both a 2008 LR3 and a 2021 Defender. Both incredible vehicles! The Defender seems like it is even more capable especially with its incredible clearances but time will tell...
Wow!! So cool. What variant Defender did you get, 2/4 door? Color? We love everything we’ve been bearding about the new Defenders. And yes we’ve been very interested to know any differences with the traction control system. Congrats and best of luck👍
Military Mobility I got an X-Dynamic 110 in Tasmin Blue. So far it’s been incredible, drove it cross country (Atlanta-Seattle). Went through snowpocolypse in Texas which was insane (it handles snow incredibly even just on the stock all Season tires). Did some mild off road stuff out in NV near Tonopah but nothing that truly challenged it’s capabilities. I’ll probably buy some wrangler DuraTracs like I have on my LR3 for it maybe this summer and maybe I’ll try to hit some trails in GA. Keep up the awesome videos, reminded me how much I love taking my LR3 off road.
@@Douganchesner That would be my color! Has that classic look. So great to hear you are using your new rig on and off highway, that’s what they’re meant for! If you’re passing back through the country let us know, would love to feature your rig. Thanks for the encouragement on our vids, Military Mobility is only getting started 🙌🇺🇸
Thats LR3 for you. Watching this with a smile bcz I own 1. Whenever I m out with friends they are always shocked by its smooth offroad performance.
Smooth is the word! These rigs really are secret weapons that can do it all and put a smile on your face🙌
Great video, as a recent owner of a 2008 LR3 HSE, And recent transplant to Montrose, I can’t wait to get a few bugs worked out on mine. And hit this same trail. Thanks much for the preview :)
Ken, thanks! You e got a great rig. As you may know get on the forums, so much great info and people willing to help there. We want to do the “road to Montrose” trail: Montrose to Moab!
@@MilitaryMobility I’ll let you know how it goes. I can tell you that “Dave wood” road on the Montrose side that goes to highway 145 near Placerville is a fantastic drive. Although it’s drivable with a car. Until winter that is. Lots of camping opportunities and great view’s
I watch your videos every week they are great ,,I have a mazda cx5 so I can only make coffee ☕️ 😀 😉
Bro, you made my day with that!!! 😂 Ha, thank you so much. We had a lot of fun making the videos and have some more being edited to share.
Speaking of Mazda’s check out Emme Hall and her Miata. We got to meet her while supporting a Jeep Jamboree event and she’s rad. Haven’t watched this video but here’s a link to her rig
th-cam.com/video/f9Q0uP6Z3Kk/w-d-xo.html
I have just bought a Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE. It came with 20in rims and after reading through your comments got confirmation about fitting 17in. The search begins. Very comprehensive video about its abilities on rock and sand. Thanks. D
Thanks very much. Be sure to Subscribe and stay tuned for our 7 part series comparing LR3 air versus coil!
BMW 162 rims fit also, if that helps,your search
I have a Sequoia; I am here because I think "Johnson rod" is funny.
Sequoia’s are great. Johnson Rod may be the best marketing slogan ever 😂
You can tell he's hooked Land Rover for Life!
Big fan for sure!
I want to drive around that area and pick up all the GoPros lying around. They're everywhere. Great vid BTW
Haha! So true, we smashed a Go Pro during filming and I called them up for replacement through their warranty program and they asked for the serial number. I said I can’t give it to you, the Go Pro is now a pancake!
Good Video guys.
Thank you!! We have a 7 episode series with the LR3 dropping in about a month so stay tuned!
Wooow that climb on stip rock...!!
Fun capable vehicle!
Absolutely awesome. one of the best off road Discovery (LR3) videos I've seen. Do you not get the diesel version in the US> here in the UK I get around 32 mpg on a long journey with 26 mpg urban. It also has a ton of torque!
Thank you very much for the compliment!! We really enjoy making these videos and engaging with other Land Rover owners, and all off-roaders/ overlanders. No there are do diesel LR3 here in the states unless someone has a special import or something. Thanks again for watching and your support! Please follow us as that helps our programs for veterans in need.
I too have an ‘08 LR3, SE variety. Gets me where I want to go every time. Thanks for the video...a lot of dislike out there for the vehicle due to the air suspension. I love the ride and the convenience of it. Looking forward to your air vs. coil comparison. What’s the largest tires you think would work on these (with mods)?
We just wrapped up filming on the Air Vs. Coil comparison. It was so much fun to record out in Moab! Can't wait to finish editing and get it uploaded.
As for tire size, people have mounted 35”s although we don’t advise it because you’ll have no uptravel and will over tax your CV’s. 32” (31.5-32.5”) tends to be our sweet spot for ground clearance and travel. Do your research and see what the actual size is on the tires despite the listed size (all manufacturers are a little bit different). Please note with 32”s depending on your front bumper you may need to do some slight trimming to maintain full turning radius (exercise this in off camber situations not just on flat ground) and you may have some slight rubbing in the passenger rear wheel well where a heater hose runs; there is an easy mod to re-route this a couple inches to the side.
Great video. I drove my diesel 90 there from Canada. I will take my air conditioned LR3 next time.
Now that’s a road trip! Awesome! We would love to get a 90 in our stable at some point. Yes the creature comforts of the LR3 are nice, this winter we were loving the heated front and rear seats!
My '17 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland has air suspension and dose Moab well, Fins 'N' Things is a lot of fun. I was there in 2019 and came across some guys that tested for Rover, they had a prototype Range Rover HSE and were taking it up that rock you are at @18 minutes and made it. Would like to try one of those out there.
We work with Jeep and help with the media release for their new vehicles. Earlier in the year we worked the release for the new Grand Cherokee and Cherokee. Both amazingly capable rigs! We have an 02’ WJ in our fleet, it’s one of our most capable rigs!
awesome video man ! got a disco 3 , its awesome one size fits all , you can go offroad and then go to an event like you said , if you can make more disco 3 videos would be verry gratefull. gonna post your link on a disco 3 fb page. hope you get more subs ! if you could try a side angle on the air suspension would be awesome ! :D
Thanks Keby! We really appreciate your assistance is helping to spread the word. Coming At the end of Sep we’ll be releasing an 8 episode series on the LR3’s… stay tuned and thanks again!
@@MilitaryMobility sure thing man ! the videos are great quality you will gain a lot of subs after 1k , you diserve it. I will be watchin all the videos. Chahuuu ! :D
Great 28 minutes, loved it. What rims and tiers combination did you use? like the look.
Hi Taylor, we’re running Goodyear Duratracs with steelie’s.
Those are 18x8" steel wheels made by Terrafirma. Lucky8 sells them.
👍good vid
THANK YOU!! 🙌🇺🇸
Awesome vehicle and it's British 😊
Where can I purchase the reims?!
Amazing video! What is the backup system if the air suspension fails. I must know!
We’ll go over it in detail in our upcoming TH-cam series comparing the LR3 air vs coil suspension!
@@MilitaryMobility sweet can’t wait.
LR3 = Discovery 3 for the rest of us lol
Also I like the newer Land Rover systems such as the 5th gen Haldex in mine that doesn’t require wheel slip to engage 4WD. It will automatically use 4WD on all start off manoeuvres and also in certain terrain response modes at certain speeds as well as other conditions like a steep incline etc. So it’s more predictive. However it is also reactive and will engage via the viscous coupling at times of slip/wheel spin but only requires a wheel to spin/slip ⅛ of a rotation (ie only momentarily break traction) before the rear wheels get torque. It’s very very good.
Um but sorry the tow hitch isn’t doing what it’s supposed (protecting it) to do at all. This is not the function of a tow hitch. It’s for towing and sometimes recovery with the right attachment. The tow hitch actually reduces the departure angle & you’d not have scraped had there been no tow hitch installed. Silly comment.
I’m unsure why people are surprised and impressed with the Land Rover’s performance. It’s a Land Rover, what do they expect. They are designed to do this stuff. They essentially invented off-roading. And they do it in luxury and style with little fuss.
Modern autos are far superior for off-roading than manuals.
Puts it in high range at the end and says “immediately more torque”?? That would be the other way round. Low range multiplies torque not high.
Thanks for the comments and the info on the Haldex system; it’s in a lot of cars brands now-a-days and for LR it’s in the Freelander, Evoque, and Discovery Sport. Was doing some research to see if it’s in the new Defender but not seeing that initially.
As for the hitch we know the manufactured intent is not as a rock guard and stated for that particular obstacle it would of cleared it without; however we did get our other LR3 stuck on a more difficult obstacle and it started to tear the stock rear bumper off. So as an affordable alternative we were trying this out. Steel rear bumpers are near $3k here and you still would have to get the Rhino high clearance hitch for $650 (we have it on our other LR3). Yes we have decreased the departure angle by doing this and we were torn on the decision but figured we’d try it out. A common example is people adding sliders which decreases break over angle but offers protection so you don’t ruin your body should the obstacle choose to do so.
You got me with the torque bit. It’d been a long day!
@@MilitaryMobility yeah I love the Haldex 5 in my Discovery Sport. I expect it’s a different setup with the Defender as I believe it’s predominantly RWD with Front when needed (I may be wrong) whereas the Haldex in the DS is FWD adding Rear when needed.
Hello you mentioned that you had a backup system for the air suspension if it went out and said you would go in-depth in another video. Did y’all ever go over the backup system? I watched the other lr3 videos unless I missed it.
Hello and thanks for the interest. Episode 1 of Air Vs. Coil
@@MilitaryMobility awesome thanks. In a situation when the bag blows what would you do?
Bags are very reliable and it’s usually, 1) electronics 2) valves, that cause a failure. Oddly enough the cheap looking plastic lines have proven to be very strong. We bring an extra (old) front/ rear air shock on our long expeditions but not for most wheeling. If your bags are newer and good condition they should be very strong. We put 200k miles before one of ours developed the slowest leak. Past that if there is still concern, might be a good candidate for coils 👍
Hey don’t go around telling everyone how capable the LR3 is, now everyone will want one and drive the prices up. Seriously though the LR3 is a great little secret and I love taking it out and doing everything the jeep guys on bigger tires do and more comfortably too.
🤣😂, too funny Jason! Agreed, my back after three spinal surgeries from going to war enjoys the LR3 comfort for sure. We have Jeeps in our inventory too and love them in their own way. Every vehicle has its place and we have just been so pleased with the versatility the LR3’s have given us. They are incredible! Land Rover is currently conducting a give away of a 2021 to 7 deserving non-profits. Fingers crossed we make the cut and get to add one to our inventory!
@@MilitaryMobility I hope Land Rover sees how deserving your non profit is, I’m an ambassador for OPiF and I absolutely love the setup you guys offer. As a fellow veteran I thank you for your continued service to the brave men and women that committed themselves to this country and as an avid outdoorsman myself I sure hope to see you out on the trails, hopefully up in northern Utah or Idaho.
Are those 18" terrafirma wheels ? Great video !!!!
Yes they are, we were looking for an affordable and durable rim that was as close to the classic steelie look as we could get. Thank you Oscar!
They look awesome. Will do the same to mine.
What are the stats on the wheels and tires? They look great on the lr3.
Thanks, we wanted to find something as close to the old school steelies that we could. The tires are Goodyear Duratrac 275/65/R18 on 18” steel Terafirma rims. The tires are incredible offroad and have a massively strong sidewall. They also excel in snow (we’re in snow a good bit) and have very nice street manners. We have this exact setup on both our LR3’s. Just like the military, the uniformity adds to our capabilities.
metric tire size?
I wanted to ask about your rear trailer hitch. I'm looking to protect my factory bumper and wondering what you think of the hitch for that purpose? Do you mind to link to the model? Thanks.
Hi, I usually am a DIE HARD maximize approach and departure angles at all cost type of person. We took our grey LR3 (not this black one) out on some nasty rocks and the rear bumper was getting hung up bad. I had the very expensive Rhino hitch which gave full towing capacity and maximized departure angle but of course did nothing for protection (that’s not its job). For a long time I was going to get the big heavy (and super expensive, I swear people take advantage of LR owners in this regard) rear steel bumper but then realized I didn’t want to go that route like I have with our Jeeps. I wanted to keep the rig capable yet cost effective. So I came up with the idea of using a hitch as protection. It works really well and realize this will not help the corners of your rig but we haven’t has any issues with this (yet!). So yes I’d recommend it, depending on what you plan to do with your rig. Here’s the link and I’ve made a wiring harness and hitch install videos, just need to post them. You’re welcome E-trailer, sponsor us! www.etrailer.com/hitch-2008_Land+Rover_LR3.htm
@@MilitaryMobility Awesome, thanks for that reply. I too am not interested in spending half the price I paid for the lr3 on bumpers, so the hitch seems like a good compromise as long as you aren't trying to fit a "full size" spare underneath. I don't think it will fit with that particular hitch. I barely got mine (31.6") to fit without a hitch! I'll probably move it to a roof rack eventually, but thought i would see how i like it underneath for a bit.
What is the 'back up system' should the air suspension fail that you refer to please as I can't seem to find it mentioned in other videos either
Kind regards
Rob
Hello Rob and thanks for the interest. We’ve done a deep dive on our as well as other back up systems for the air suspension in our LR3 shoot-out where we do a full scale comparison of the air suspension vs. the coil conversion. Be sure to subscribe and get updates of our new content as it will be getting released shortly!
@@MilitaryMobility already subscribed, thanks for replying and I await LR3 videos s I have 2 myself
Good luck with everything
Why should the pneumatics fail?
Pneumatics will work for a long time before failure when an issue is arising it will give plenty of notice ,warnings before it fails.The compressor could star to get noisy the airbag inflation times out,in my case for several weeks a very slight airbag leak,cheap,easy fix.
Look at the stickers on the airbag struts on your Land Rover at 280,000 my rears read date of manufacture 2005!🤣.
Brilliant video,enjoy the best car I've ever owned.
@@bobmaxwell9572 great input Bob, thx! Yes with some education and understanding the air system is not too difficult to understand, maintain, and repair if needed. We’re at 183k and stoked to hear your endorsement with so many miles!
Did this rig have the factory rear locker?
Hi Davi, it does not. We did however recently acquire our third LR3 which does. We look forward to doing side by side comparisons and seeing if this added feature adds a big capability or not. Thanks for watching!
Probably the most capable all round off-roader stock on the planet.. amazingly comfortable on road but can do all that without breaking sweat. On mediocre tyres. If only they didn’t break 🤣
Thanks Nick, Amazingly capable and comfortable as you said! Have you had a bad experience with the Goodyear Duratracs? On our hardcore wheeling and dedicated rock rigs we use a different brand but this rig lives in the snow of Wyoming and we’ve found these tires to be unbeatable in snow, and great in the rocks and on pavement as well.
Hi guys which video talks about the back up suspension? Thanks
Hi, that’s the Air vs Coil series. Believe it’s the towing episode
@@MilitaryMobility Great I’ll check it out! Thanks for responding quick!
Took this long for a decent video of the LR3
Greatly appreciated. We wanted to have a fair and balanced discussion about the LR3 and show some of its capabilities; so that it might open off-roaders to the possibility of it as a viable platform. We train a lot of veterans that don’t have large pots of money for high dollar rigs but want to get involved in off-roading. LR3’s are very affordable and so much fun!! Thanks again and we’ll see you on the trail!
What wheels ate those and size? What tire size are you running
The tires are Goodyear Duratrac 275/65/R18 on steel 18" Terrafirma rims. It’s been a great combo for us and we run them on both our LR3’s for compatibility.
Do the extension rods take away some of its off road capabilities ?
This is a great question and one that leads to the understanding that any modifications made to any vehicle will have pros and cons. Vehicles are designed a certain way and it’s important to know what you are changing and why when you modify it.
As for the LR3, it is very capable off-road on its stock sized 255/55/R19 (30”) tires. When you raise the vehicle into extended mode it gains ground clearance to clear obstacles at the cost of the air shock’s allowance for uptravel. There is also super extended mode which will automatically happen if the vehicle senses its frame is on something; this essentially maximizes the air shock lift to its full potential and eliminates any uptravel, making for a rougher ride quality but in the name of getting up over the obstacle where it will then lower.
But say you still want more ground clearance? Either from the type of off-roading you’re doing or (for some) to have a more aggressive look. You put on bigger tires (for us 32”), which nets us 1” higher ground clearance than stock (2” bigger tire at hub center is a 1” gain). What the Johnson Rods do is trick the air suspension sensors to thinking they are lower than they actually are so it raises the vehicle a bit (how much depending on what rods you buy) to put it back in spec. So you’ve permanently gained ground clearance (1” is a lot even though it doesn’t sound like it!) at the cost of a little bit of uptravel. Now with the conservative scenario I’ve detailed chances are you won’t notice any deficit to the ride quality because you’ll rarely be at those limits of uptravel. Now for the guys who max the air shock to put 35”s in, it’s going to be a bumpy ride! The LR3 has bad articulation as it is, our opinion is to not go that big, it will lead to diminished performance and excessive wear on parts (cv’s).
So in summary the John Rods are an effective and affordable mod that can be easily installed (or removed) in about 30 minutes. The same functionality and more can be had with the Gap IID tool (which we also have) which allows you to custom preset or control your vehicles height whenever you want, as well as a host of other vital controls and troubleshooting capabilities. So us having both is redundant however we like it and it’s working for us. Hope this helps!
What size rim do you have on there , I have rhino 18” rhino rim on it now with a lift but I’m constantly told I can’t put bigger tires because of rubbage.. just wondering how you guys got 32” on there.. I have 2006 LR3
Hi Ed, we have 18” rims as well. If you have a gas V8 that is a requirement due to the massive brakes (this is a good thing). The V6’s have smaller brakes. When we talk about rim and tire size in terms of clearance, one doesn’t depend on the other. Example; stock it came with 20” rims and 29” tires. We’re running about a 1.5” lift with our Johnson Rods. We’ve had to do some very light trimming of the plastic under the bumper near the front wheel wells (with a dremel tool) to maintain max turning ability but that was it. Hope this helps
@@MilitaryMobility I see… dont suppose you guys took video of the Dremmel action?.. I’ve thought about that… I have the 2006 V8 .. Love this thing… has been so useful …. Also curious …. Does yours have weights underneath the vehicle in the rear…. Wondering what there for?🤔
@@edornelas9976 We sure didn’t. I know in the beginning it can be a bit a daunting to cut on or modify your vehicle (at least it was for me) but this trimming project would be a great start, it’s a minimal job with low consequences. But once you start working on your rig like that it opens up a whole new world of confidence and seeing things in a different way. In your driveway or other controlled area just turn your vehicle full left and right (with the new tires on) and drive a few feet. You’ll hear the sound of the tires touching the rubber too. Go back to straight. Trim where you see it rubbing, it’ll be under the front bumper of each wheel well. Repeat the process a few times (to include a bit of articulation; I.e approach to driveway, etc) until you have full turning with no sound. Mission complete! Let us know how it turns out!
Those are frame dampeners, I know they look weird! They combat harmonic resonance and vibrations coming off the frame. It’s a very low tech way of solving whatever issues they were having when designing the LR3.
Can you share tire size. You said that the rims are 17 inches how did you manage to fit them to the V8 petrol ???
Hello and thanks for the interest. We have a brief walk around video of this LR3 as well at th-cam.com/video/aBDTIG64NhM/w-d-xo.html
The tires are 275/65/R18 and the rims are actually 18” steelies from Terrafirma (not 17” as I mentioned). As far as I know there’s no difference to mounting on gas vice diesel concerning; believe the bolt pattern is the same on both.
@@MilitaryMobility if you want to go for 17 inches you should change the brake discs. To the TDV6 model are a lot smaller. Thats why i asked you. Keep up the good job ...
I picked up a 2nd hand set of old 18" Range Rover alloys to replace my 19",fitted 285x60x18 Nitto G2s,work really well.
Thats my car 👏
Good video however I muted the sound.
It is a visually stunning visual all it’s own isn’t it! We’ve had folks tell us they put it on their big tv while cooking and doing chores around the house to daydream about their next adventure 👍
What about the lr4?
We haven’t personally got our hands on one to test out. Initially I’d say it’s the same rig, just updated. But then you look closer and find with the addition of some creature comforts came the loss of some off-road functionality; mainly that not all LR4’s come with low range. We were very excited to get our hands on a LR4 V6 turbo although we’ve been told to keep an eye on the timing chain. If a HD package V6 comes around for us we’re all over it, but couldn’t be more pleased with our bulletproof Jaguar 4.4 V8 LR3’s!
How many miles did you get out of it before it broke down?
Hi Brad, we’ll tell you when or if that happens! We have 2 of these LR3’s and they’ve been doing very well for us as far as reliability. What do you own and what has been your experience with issues? Thanks👍
Does it have the hd package with the locking rear differential?
This one does not. It was a donated vehicle so we get what we get; still very capable although it would be nice to have the rear locker of course! We’re looking at getting the ARB rear locker put in if we feel we need it down the road. 👍
@@MilitaryMobility cool, excellent video presentation btw
@@MilitaryMobility All HSE models have an electronically controlled centre AND rear locking differential. It only locks when using Special programs on the Terrain Response system. You can monitor the diff activity on the navigation screen by pushing the 4X4 Info button, and watch the steering wheels turn and axle articulation hight change, as well as the diffs locking and unlocking when needed. When Special programs are OFF, centre and rear diffs are always open. Traction control only limits the wheel spin side to side, by applying the brakes. Throttle response and ABS mapping changes to allow more or less wheel spin, depending on the program you choose. It's a very capable system, once you get familiar with it. Hill descent control engages automatically when in Crawl mode. You can vary the speed by using the up and down volume switch on the steering wheel.
@@rrshse6704 All great info here however only the LR3’s with the Heavy Duty (HD) package have the rear locker, regardless of trim model. All LR3 navigation screens will display the unlocked lockers for the center and rear diffs as default programming; however the rear diff will only show engaged when needed (by showing locked locker in red) on the HD variants. Getting a VIN build sheet on your vehicle will clearly display if it has the rear locker or not; we wish ours did! It can also be visually verified by looking under the vehicle. Some use indicators such as a full size rear tire or the presence of stock running boards however this is not always dependable.
@@MilitaryMobility I saw your screen on the next video and realized that later, sorry I jumped the gun, maybe Range Rover specs are different
My question is, what year is it? And How many miles on it? How much you ask for it? Let me know if you want to sale it?
It’s a 2008, never enough miles, always more trails to explore! We’re a 501c3 non-profit; this vehicle gets used to provide therapy to veterans in need. As such it’s not for sale however you can donate at www.militarymobility.com. Thanks for the patriotism and support!
Make you got the "rear locker" option.....
Hi Craig and thanks for reaching out. We wish! This rig was donated to us and we repaired the air suspension on it for around $500 and it’s been unstoppable even since. So while we agree we would LOVE to have a LR3 with the rear locker, what we got is what we got and we are VERY grateful to our patriotic donor THE JERSEY SURFER! 🇺🇸🙌
Is this the V6 or 8?
This 2008 LR3 HSE has a Jaguar AJ-8, which is a 4.4 liter V8 that makes 300 HP and 315 Ft. Lbs of torque. This was on Ward’s top ten list for best engines in 2000. Ford ceased production in Sep 2020 when they closed the Bridgend Plant. The engine has been used in Fords, Lincolns, and even the Aston Martin Vantage.
@@MilitaryMobility I want to pull the trigger on one but reliability and maintenance costs are a big concern..
@@ZoneTelevision Totally understood. We don’t aim to sway anyone one way or the other but will share our experiences. We currently have 2x 2008 LR3 HSE’s (this black one and another grey one with a coil conversion, which makes it much more reliable but takes out some features you get with the Air). We’ve owned the grey one for 2 years now and have only ever replaced the worn out hood and lift gate struts, and changed the oil; and it gets it time in the trail and the highway. This one we repaired the air suspension as it was donated to us broken. From my research the air suspension is what typically fails on these vehicles and once you understand how it works it’s not difficult to troubleshoot or repair (we’ve used some EBay parts to save money and it’s been working out great). You can also easily mod the air system to be much more reliable by isolating the air shocks (it’s usually the air hoses or valves that leak). As with any vehicle being handy with a wrench definitely saves big on labor costs (almost everything is on TH-cam). Depending on your budget these are somewhat affordable rigs compared to other options but parts are much more expensive. As with any rig, take your time and look for one that’s been taken care of and where you’re getting a fair deal. Good luck!
The HSE Model is a 4.4 L V8 with a Jaguar engine Its a beast
You said 17" rims....Everything I can find on these V8 LR3's says 18" is the smallest rim that will fit without converting to V6 brakes. Can anyone else verify this? Id sure like to run 17's on our V8!
Yes I misspoke they are 18” rims (we’re making a video edit) they are indeed required due to the enormous yet powerful brake size. The diesels (if you can find one in the U.S.) have smaller brakes and allow for 17” rims. While it’d be nice to have a bit more sidewall we tow quite often and enjoy the bigger brakes.
Derek,I picked up a good set of old Range Rover 18",put 285x60x18 Nitto G2s on them,very good combo.
@@bobmaxwell9572 That’s the kind of gouge we like! Thanks for sharing this with the Military Mobility family👍
What size tires?
@@RyanKennethWilson Hi and thanks for the interest. We have a LR3 walk around video if you’d like to learn more about the rig. This LR3 has 274/65/R18 Goodyear Duratracs which is a 32.1” tire.
I see blocked sunroof drains have claimed a pillar 😭
Hi, could you explain a bit more; what are the symptoms you’re referencing? We haven’t had any interior leaking. Thanks!
Oh and which LR3, grey or black? Lol!
@@MilitaryMobility hiya mate. So the sunroom has 4 drain ports. And if you look at your front pillars the material is peeling away. It’s a common sign the front 2 are blocked. It’s around 50 pounds to fix and lots available online for it hope this helps
in Russia, such people are called milimetrazhist) LR3 is in good hands
So many Landrover videos no questing of its ability, should be more on its reliability and fixing the things lol I’ve made a mistake 3 times now . Never again
We've have over 500,000 miles on our 3x LR3's, have a Disco2 with 175k and a Defender 300tdi with 140k and they have not been without maintenance like any other vehicle would require but have proven very reliable for us. Maybe we're lucky, or know how to maintain vehicles adequately. In either case, we hope you're having better luck with whatever you moved on to and are still getting to explore the backcountry.