Canadian Forces - 2018 C7 Rifle / C8 Carbine PAM Changes: Small Arms Instructor Tutorial
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 พ.ค. 2024
- Canadian Forces Training Video Series.
Produced for the Department of National Defence, 2018.
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0:00 - Intro
1:08 - Description
1:37 - Weapon Carriage
2:57 - Weapon Positions
4:49 - Weapon Manipulation
6:10 - Weapon Drills
10:57 - Marksmanship Principles
13:52 - Weapon Firing Drills
15:23 - Weapon Stoppage Drills
19:21 - Outro
20:00 - Credits
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Thanks for the flashbacks to Basic Training lol
Aye thanks for your service Brotha 🇨🇦
@@straton9658 Thanks!
@@andreasfoerster772 what branch did you serve in?
@@straton9658 Army. Went through ROTP to be an Infantry Officer and went to RMC in Kingston. Shadowed the Opso at RMC then worked as a Research Assistant. Was in the Forces for 5 years and change before being medically released
@@andreasfoerster772 ah well you did great 👍
I'm an ESL instructor for a NATO military. Will be using this audio at beginner level since it is so unambiguous in terms of vocabulary and pronounciation. It is really a noobie-proof video and I guess that's the exact reason why it was made. Useful material!
"The previous pam was based on drills from previous small arms from generations of rifles very different from today's small arms."
Wow... Good thing the CAF decided to get on top of this issue.... 30 years after adopting the C7/C8. Seems like a pretty average turn around time for the Canadian military to implement changes BAHAHA.
Yes. 2018 brought us up to about the mid 2000's in terms of weapon manipulation technique. Basically Magpul's Art of Dynamic Carbine.
jesus look at the equipment, i'm having flash backs back to the 90s.
@@TheeYellowDart Yeah it's... not the greatest lol.
@@MrRyushinn Yup lol. That's everything I was issued and carried in 2007. We were still using FAL manual actions in basic then, in the C7 lol.
Then the main thing was to rack the charging handle with right hand, then slap the bolt catch with the left hand, then pump the forward assist with the palm or thumb of the right hand.
All of these actions are kinda redundant if you're just reloading. But effective if you're clearing a malfunction.
Now in modern war schools, everything's been streamlined to just TRB. Tap Rack Bang lol.
so the funny thing is the rest of the world is still in the same spot.
If you do weapon manipulation with the barrel pointed in the air 90% of shooters will have a bird because all they've ever known is downrange or at the dirt.
Thank you for your service!
Nice video. Thank you for sharing.
your channel is my favourite for military instructions, please keep them coming!
Got uploads scheduled for Thursdays for the next year. And a few more to review before they are scheduled in.
Big fan of your Scribd uploads
Sometimes DLing the BGL onto your phone is problematic. Thanks, no matter what, I have a reference now. Useful Video.
Is it actually practical to press the foward assist using your support hand, I mean I would use my other hand
I may have sent many here lol
This should be more accessible from the dawn… 🤷♂️ if folks are required to revert annually - put it on the various splash pages for reference
I love the Halloween font haha
I Love you channel
Matsimus sent us
Hey there. Just wondering if there is a way I can get access to the videos you put on here. I work at the base in Petawawa and was looking to put them on a stand alone computer at our work. Thanks.
A fair number of these videos (including this one) are already on ACIMS. This particular one is all around that site; I think it is the armoured school has the vast majority otherwise.
If the standalone is also connected to DWAN, you may be hooped, but then you can get into ACIMS.
Depends on the security policy, and what can be transferred into the stand-alone otherwise.
Excellent job, speaking as a Retired Naval Officer & Canadian Armed Forces Range Safety Officer. 😊
Thanks for your service brother
This is a good video. Being someone that has fired the civilian AR15 i see many things that take time off when time counts in combat.
I never liked the forward assist! The idea of raming a round into the chamber. Makes me think as a kid square peg round hole!
What ifs yes are just that but makes you think.
The next to use the charging handle to release the bolt when your hand is already by the bolt release 10ths of a second in combat could be the difference between life and death.
This is a good instructional tool to build muscle memory this is why we run drills
The reason we stopped using the bolt catch was because too many dumb recruits kept missing the bolt catch and you're less likely to miss the cocking handle than the bolt catch.
Or so we were told.
I agree, the bolt catch should be used over the cocking handle whenever the bolt is locked to the rear, as it's literally designed to chamber a round once a loaded magazine is inserted.
Try being a lefty. We just adapt and over come everyday
Why charging handle instead of bolt release when reloading an empty rifle (bolt locked back)?
Grabing the cocking handle and pulling it to the rear is considered a gross motor skill, trying to release the bolt catch with its small button is a fine motorskill. In stressful situations like a fire fight, fine motor skills tend to deteriorate.
@@alexyoung4689 under that logic, getting your magazine out is also a fine motor skill.
They only did it because dumb recruits kept missing the bolt catch via cupping their hand instead of using the bottom of your hand or your thumb.
100% doable even under stress.
It's a solution looking for a problem. The bolt release is there for a reason, giving it a slap with an open palm takes a fraction of a second and anyone can practice it to the point of it being second nature, even in a firefight. You always fall back to your strongest level of training when under stress. The new changes make me thing we're just unlearning years of PWT so someone at NDHQ can get a Driving Change tick in the box on their PER.
from my understanding, its far more reliable to cock it yourself. C7/C8's (and C9's for that matter), get really gunked up after a few rounds, and Ive had my bolt fail to go foward while hitting the bolt release. But its always seated when I rack the gat myself.
@@MrSimon117 If the rifle fails to chamber a round from pressing the bolt catch, there's a problem with the rifle or the magazine. To get a properly functioning C7/C8 to be so filthy that chambering from the bolt catch no longer works, you'd have to not clean or lubricate the rifle at all for literally thousands of live rounds (or hundreds of blanks).
As uncomfortable to watch as it seemed to be for the poor fellow who acted for the video.
The next days training will involve how to sit in a chair for 3/4 of your career.
Or doing lav maintenance or range clean up?
Whatcha training for? Eh?
Still don’t understand the “support hand” bolt assist...
weapon is loaded and cocked, the strong hand never leaves the pistol grip when the weapon is ready to fire.
I agree the bolt assist is supposed to be applied aggressively to ensure the bolt is fully forward and locked in place. Using the support hand seems awkward and weak. Slap it with your palm and flip up the dust cover in one fluid motion.
@@gwchamberlain do want you gotta do to pass the test, then just do what works for you in the field.
@@gwchamberlain Can't be worse than the CCP manual of arms...
If only the people instructing on courses watched this...
Which battle school are you at? They've all adopted the updated drills years ago
Its like someone mentioned their drills need updating because of what they see in movies, then proceed to film new drills by copying what they see in movies and not hire actual gunfighter professionals.
Also confused about what year this is actually filmed in.. 1998?
Do you know the old drills? These are a lot better.
This was most likely filmed in 2018.
I can see what you mean about 1998, the fm quality is kind of poor in production.
The Major said it was around May 2018 that the new PAM and drills occurred and were effective.
These drill are mostly fine and meant to be a starting point for the 17 year old high school dropout who has never even seen a rifle before. They're a HUGE improvement over the old official drills. Not really seeing what's supposed to be so "movie" about it. And it's the army. Why would they hire "gunfighter professionals...?"
I learned my drills at BMQ in April 2022 and some of these drills are slightly different than the ones I was taught. For example, I was taught to check the receiver, chamber, and magazine housing by physically putting 3 fingers in the lower receiver, than putting my pinky finger in the ejector port with my right hand. On this video, it shows him checking with his left hand.
You guys need to get rid of those Hi Powers and adopt the Glock 17.
@@militaryman237 Weird. Most militaries are looking into striker fired designs.
@@nelsonr1467 our SOF units are using the SIG p320 atm id assume that at some point that will be the handgun to be adopted, but there are a lot of other things that arguably are more important to replace for the average soldier (only ever even seen 1 HP) like new body armour
The only people who even get issued pistols are officer and SOF that would be such. Waste of money
Would rather get a proper rig and plate carriers than anything like a pistol which I’ll never have to use.
@@canadianwifi2903 ^^
This narrator sounds like a discount John Goodman lol.
Yeah! Like Tim Allen
Sorry but it is the left hander has the one that has the detrimental one!!
Why is he wearing the cap badge after week 4-6? Shouldn’t he have his regiment cap badge? Lol
no, he was being army soldier of the armyness you stupid head
He's the chief instructor at the infantry school. If you're part of the command team of one of the two combat arm schools (RCACS or RCICS), they wear the corps cap badge irrespective of which regiment they joined; i.e. The Armoured school commandant takes off his bambi to wear the fist for the duration of your posting.
That’s messed… and unheard of… never have i seen staff at any school where the cap badge you got on DP1 battle school replaced your unit cap badge. I’d never give up my RCR to downgrade to a cap badge that doesn’t even show you’re a trained soldier not in the training phase.
13:45 engage safety with support hand? Why not with dominant hand, as it as already right there?
So your finger is near the trigger incase a treat pop out
I thought it was so that a guy could then engage in a little thumb war with himself seeing as his other thumb is already there. This particulate practice seems like an awkward and unnecessary movement.
@@justadude7820 You can engage the safety with your thumb while the finger is still near fire control. Heck, you can engage it with your dominant hand index finger and the time to flip it off safe again with your thumb is negligible.
@@Mrpogful tbh, idk. Some people could have smaller hands thus not reach the safety with their thumb? I think it pretty stupid why this was on the pam, i never do it anyways
Fortunately in the real world everyone in the CAF from my experience uses their thumb to engage and disengage the safety.
I found this video after seeing this guy in grindr
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Nice one!
There are many changes I would make to that video lol
Watching this gives me a knot in my stomach lol
Dunamis
(10:20) This tactical reload is a good way to die in a continuous firefight. What you might do, is pressing the magasin release button while forcibly rotating your rifle along the pipe axis, effectively ejecting the magasin ourwards, and reload with a fresh magasin.
That's 3 gun shit though, magazine retention is important in combat
it can be done in both ways depending on the necessity of the situation
You need magazines to shoot. You can not just throw them around and leave them. How do you continue the patrol or assault if you can not reload mags because you left them all on the ground........
@@philliptallack646 I prefer to collect them after the enemy is killed. I surely collect them directly into my drop pouch, but its not always applicable. ;-)
@@martinkaarup2847 so just don't leave them in the first place and use the drop pouch as intended?
i dont think the muzzle should be pointed up... WHAT IF LIKE SLENDERMAN WAS ON YOUR TEAM AND YOU SHOT HIS FUCKING HEAD OFF LIKE DUDE COME ON?
Interesting to see the new changes. As someone who left in '09, some of these make more sense with an AR platform.
I'm more bothered by the fact everyone has full beards and desert boots in garrison. I guess back then a nicely polished pair of black Cadillac's and no shit on your face was the sign of a switched on troop. Now it's high-speed glasses and Gucci kit....dunno man
Sorry, I'll always take an FNC1 over the C7 any day. Any weapon that requires a 'forward assist' is a crap rifle; and the 7.62 is a far better round than the 5.56. That said, keep 'em coming Ryan. I'm still waiting for those Cougar AVGP videos LOL
Guy, I don't think you've actually fired either of those weapons? The forward assist is a GREAT addition to any M16 rifle. And yes, they have a purpose. It is possible to get "stuck" on a damaged or out of spec cartridge. When that happens you're wedged too tightly to use the charging handle to open the bolt, and forced to pound the bolt closed (to fire) as the only recourse. The Garand, M14, C1/FAL AK etc are all vulneralble to this possibility. At least on the M14 and Garand, AK etc You can pound, or even stomp the charging handle in or out of battery. The FAL/C1 has no forward assist...I love the FAL/C1 type rifles, but to be blunt the lack of a good solid charging handle or Forward assist is a bit of a deficit. With a C1/FAL your only solution to a stuck round is to try to hold the charging handle and beat the rifle by the but on the ground to try to extract. Sometimes this doesn't work out as planned.......
we hardly even use the forward assist these days; in my training we've only ever used it immediately after a press check, and that's it.
A cansof weapons tech told me once, of you need to use your forward assist you need to replace the return spring.
I never understood the "Give me an FNC1" argument. If you want 7.62mm, there are many modern offerings that are arguably superior.
@@TheeYellowDart it's because it's what they served with, nothing more. Also the FN FAL is a pretty good rifle for what it is. But times have changed; every modern military issues rifles chambered in intermediate cartridges for their frontline troops to use, which for the vast majority of engagements will serve the soldier just fine.
Canadian military allows beards?
Very dangerous assault weapons.
No. Training is key.
those boots hes wearing are crap mine were destroyed within 4 months
Must've gotten shit pair of boots than.
They’re heavy and uncomfortable
@@Dundun4793 The issued SWAT ones are better than the shitty generic tan ones if you had to pick one from the two
I just looked it up, the CAF are planning to get better boots that are greater flexibility.
@@localdude3702 * then. … it’s spelled T h e n
The old drills were better
How so?
@@TheeYellowDart Indeed, how so?
@@billdevitt4324 one thing not mentioned here in the video is the current drills forbid using the bolt catch to chamber a round.
Which is literally what it's designed to do, but whatever I guess.
@@burnyburnoutze2nd That's a good point.
@@burnyburnoutze2nd Totally with you here. I've never understood why people always say "You'll miss the bolt release in a real fight because it's too small and you lose your fine motor skills." In high stress environments you fall to your lowest level of training, if I train with the bolt release, I won't miss it. Also, if the bolt release is too small to be used in a high stress environment, then the mag release is also too small.
So much fail in this doctrine, but an improvement over the older garbage.
Press checks are dumb, and are only viable with ample light. Teaching a non tactile method is pointless. Fucking with the bolt is a recipe for disaster. Physically feel for the top round in the magazine and which side it is on before loading. After inserting the magazine and chambering a round, remove the magazine and feel the top round again. If the top round has switched sides, you have loaded the rifle, reinsert the rifle with a TAP TUG. Works 24 hours a day, with all rifles, and you never fuck with the bolt.
Dry firing the rifle after unloading is absolutely retarded. Pulling the trigger is NOT PART OF UNLOADING.
When loading or executing an immediate action drill it is advisable to both TAP and TUG the magazine, ensuring it is seated prior to working the charge handle. Mixing up the steps renders the operation useless.
A bolt check is dumb and only works under ample lighting conditions. TAP TUG RACK solves most issues and should be done without additional data. That is, don't think or look at the rifle. If it didn't fire when the trigger was depressed execute a TAP TUG RACK and try again. Should that fail, reload the rifle.
Again, looking at the chamber during a double feed is pointless as it only works with ample light. Fingering the mag well and/or ejection port greatly aids in ensuring the stoppage is clear. If you cycle the bolt and listen(and feel) you can hear(and feel) steel on steel, which tells you the action is clear. Reload and continue on.
Stop using the forward assist. Another product of institutional imbreeding that was not part of the original design and is completely useless. Forcing a round into the chamber is a very dumb idea.