Here’s Why The New GMC Canyon AT4X AEV Is The Ultimate Off-Road Pickup!

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  • @tylerconley9670
    @tylerconley9670 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +152

    Lol for what? $67,000 starting 😂 oh Waite you can get the barebones for $45,000 these trucks ain’t worth it. And with interest rates at 7 your average monthly payment is a mortgage… $1000 on average

    • @michaelmancuso2
      @michaelmancuso2 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      At 7% interest rate your more like 1200-1400 bub all said and done

    • @9663mu
      @9663mu 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      Sounds like you need to work harder 😂

    • @RossMalagarie
      @RossMalagarie 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@9663muexactly if you can't afford a $1,400 truck note, a $1,400 SUV note, a $5,000 house note, a $4,000 summer home note, a $4,000 winter home note, and the rest of your bills then you need to work harder.😂 Poor people 😂

    • @is6566
      @is6566 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

      @96…. When you get older, not really old just a bit older than 16 😃 then you will realize that the only problem with working harder, is that it takes away the truly scarce resource available to you, your time. You swap your time for money and then you can pay for this toy and others but you will not have the time to enjoy them.

    • @weneurysm
      @weneurysm 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Yeah it’s kinda wild.. tbf though, any full sized truck with similar features would cost way more

  • @theirthereandtheyre2947
    @theirthereandtheyre2947 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I owned a 2020 Gladiator Sport. Stickered for $33,733.00
    Fit 35x10.50x17’s on factory steel wheels.
    You can get a good vehicle if you pass on all the unnecessary options. Only downside was that 5’ bed.

    • @ALMX5DP
      @ALMX5DP 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah I think most people would be happy with something like the Trail Boss which retails for like $38k or so. But some people just have to one-up the Jones’ and get the flashiest thing out there.

    • @jpetree1985
      @jpetree1985 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      The big things you're paying for with the ATX/ZR2 trims are the pre-installed lockers and off-road suspension. You don't get those with the Sport and Trail-Boss trims. By the time you pay for parts and labor, you're looking at just as much, if not more than the cost of the higher trim line. Plus there is the possibility you never upgrade later anyway and get the same capabilities down the line, leaving you with regret as you watch the Rubicons and ZR2/ATX trims do things on the trails you want to do. So, there's that...

    • @lamborghiniempanada7586
      @lamborghiniempanada7586 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Another downside is it’s a Jeep

    • @zenmoda6344
      @zenmoda6344 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jpetree1985that’s the spirit lol

  • @JREwing78
    @JREwing78 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    The tire looks cool as hell mounted like that, but it would've blocked the rear view less if the mount pointed it parallel to the driver, instead of perpendicular. They could mirror it for a 2nd spare behind the passenger side and still leave a rear view.

  • @Gerry-K
    @Gerry-K 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    One sweet looking truck!
    The 1st thing I would do if I purchased a AT4X is re- gear it to about 4.56 to help with all that extra weight & 35's.

    • @jpetree1985
      @jpetree1985 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You would think it would come already regeared from the factory...

    • @Foof50
      @Foof50 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If you're gonna regear just do 5.13

    • @wolfgang_h3t
      @wolfgang_h3t 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@Foof50 You'd probably have to run a tiny ring gear for that

  • @sunchaser999
    @sunchaser999 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Very nice truck. The interior is way too sporty for my taste but I can appreciate it. Rear hd camera would go a long way with that big tire in the way of visibility.

  • @ribbit1964
    @ribbit1964 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Andre, you’ve taught me to keep GM products at arm’s length. Not just you but all TFL! Between the hummer ev and your Colorado, the gremlins the vehicles have are just too many to not take seriously.

    • @sammyjammy6647
      @sammyjammy6647 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Team Toyota?

    • @imhann98
      @imhann98 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed

    • @ribbit1964
      @ribbit1964 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      My thing is, at $40k, $50k, $60k, 70k plus for simple trucks, I have to get something I can rely on and these aren’t it

    • @awdeveau
      @awdeveau 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The last Chevy I owned was an electrical nightmare! It couldn't make it a whole month without some completely new electrical issue. Bad grounds, chaffing wire harnesses, you name it and it had it. Some were just annoying like turning on the blinker would cause horn to blow, but others were dangerous like cruise control malfunctioning and not disengaging when hitting the brakes.
      I would much rather have to replace a transmission every 100k miles than deal with electrical issues again.

  • @4rr44E
    @4rr44E 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Awesome truck (except for the four-banger). But waaay too expensive! Who can afford these things!?

    • @isaacmiller8940
      @isaacmiller8940 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      People with salaries of 100,000 or more per year 😢

    • @youngwildcat08
      @youngwildcat08 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I make more than that and I sure as hell are not buying this overpriced truck.

    • @4rr44E
      @4rr44E 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@youngwildcat08 I do too and am no way willing to get into an $800+ a month payment!

    • @kokocostanza2036
      @kokocostanza2036 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah, it's expensive, but think about how many High Country Silverados and F-250 Platinums you see driving around.

    • @4rr44E
      @4rr44E 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kokocostanza2036 Ha, but those are full size trucks. So again… a midsize for $60K! Common.

  • @PearlyJarrett
    @PearlyJarrett 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I paid $35,000 for my 2018 zr2. $100 aev trim kit, $400 upgraded bump stops, and $80 level and I’m on 34s. Took on Poughkeepsie gulch and Pearl pass. Think I’ll keep my $30,000. The only luxury feature I feel I’m missing out on would be adaptive cruise control

    • @Motor-City_Ben-Diesel
      @Motor-City_Ben-Diesel 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      35,000 from the dealer?!

    • @adamkerr8583
      @adamkerr8583 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Motor-City_Ben-Dieselyes, I bought one in 2018 and it was definitely less than $40k OTD

  • @nismo370z4
    @nismo370z4 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    GM made the new Colorado and Canyon look really good, problem is the sub par GM build quality. Way too expensive for all the time that it will spend at the dealership for repairs.

  • @Lakanuki
    @Lakanuki 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    That white accented interior is HIDEOUS!! That would be a total deal breaker for me.

    • @amicxble9350
      @amicxble9350 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bc you grew up hating white people so you hate white

  • @Great-Scotthew
    @Great-Scotthew 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I work for GM and got to drive one of these on an offroad course a few months ago and it was extremely impressive. Absolutely destroys my 21 AT4 Canyon

  • @PG-lf3rr
    @PG-lf3rr 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Fantastic! Fantastic consumer gouging. Not to mention dealer markups of $20-$30k. Sickening. Also, i heard the AT4X (non AEV) doesn't have same level of armor?
    ...and is Andre recording on Mt Everest? (I get winded walking up my stairs to be fair)

    • @Sloimer
      @Sloimer 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Well what the hell would be the purpose of the AEV if it didn’t add AEV parts?

  • @svpracer98
    @svpracer98 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I really like my 19 canyon, I think the v6 pairs nicely with the 8 speed transmission. I'm still not completely sold on the turbo 4 and more infotainment dependent interior.

    • @mikeg8777
      @mikeg8777 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Dont test drive one because it will sell you. I owned a 2018 v6 and the turbomax blows it out of the water.

    • @imhann98
      @imhann98 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're right to keep your 19 canyon. Save yourself the headache

    • @ALMX5DP
      @ALMX5DP 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If the old model had the 4.3 I might agree but I like truck engines that have a good torque curve. The 3.6 was a bit too peaky.

    • @Rome1017Lights
      @Rome1017Lights 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There's no comparison between the 3.6 and this 2.7. better in every way and so far more reliable.
      I'm a GM tech and I've yet to do any real work on the 2.7L (in the 1500s) all I've done is a leaking air oil separator and that was because it wasn't torqued to spec at the factory. They're reliable and torquey as heck

  • @Dobbs6651
    @Dobbs6651 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Paid off my 21 Ford ranger today. Felt damn good!!! Right in time to start paying student loans again.

  • @johnmeeboer8971
    @johnmeeboer8971 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    White on the interior!! For an off road truck

  • @tabularasa820
    @tabularasa820 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    How does it compare to the AEV Gladiator? Which is more capable or most versatile? Which feels built better?

    • @TFLtruck
      @TFLtruck  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      We will have to do this comparison soon!

    • @philipparana9225
      @philipparana9225 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      A regular Rubicon or Mohave will walk that thing

  • @zmotorpro
    @zmotorpro 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Finally. A mid size truck that checks all the boxes. The spare in the bed is a huge negative however. Now if only Jeep could step up with 35s and a more powerful engine in the Gladiator, then we would truly have a real mid sized gladiator pickup! There ya go Jeep. Make it happen!

    • @chadgammon9890
      @chadgammon9890 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ... I have a 21' EcoDiesel with 37's, no regear, and have done 13k ft mountain passes fully loaded and never once thought "man... I wish I had more power".

    • @TheHitSquadOffroad
      @TheHitSquadOffroad 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lol, no one who really wheels a JT has 35s.

  • @TheNicksj1
    @TheNicksj1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I'm assuming they are yet to work out the numerous issues that plague the '23s?

  • @MachoCool558
    @MachoCool558 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    A 6300 pound truck with 900 pounds of payload capacity is an engineering feat.

    • @willp942
      @willp942 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's 5400 pounds plus the 900 payload to a total of 6300. Or is that what you meant?

    • @mvcharisma
      @mvcharisma 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      This truck weighs more than my 22 F150 which is only 4700 lbs

    • @javiertafoya6509
      @javiertafoya6509 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@mvcharisma but your truck is made out of tin can

    • @champinsoccer9
      @champinsoccer9 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@javiertafoya6509my 2020 ford ranger weights 4500. 6300??? Wtf

    • @ColeSpolaric
      @ColeSpolaric 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@champinsoccer9 5400, and you have to remember the bumpers, skid plates, sliders and spare tire carrier add up along with the additional weight of 35s

  • @carlosayala3146
    @carlosayala3146 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    this interior is SO much nicer than the ranger raptor. exterior styling and factory 35s are cool also. too bad its down 100 hp on the RR and still uses rear leaf springs. as always, the best truck is a combination of two or more options.

  • @meathead585
    @meathead585 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Truck looks incredibly good with the mud. So sick of looking at pristine vehicles.
    Great color match of the grays, well done.
    I would ditch the white in the interior for a more masculine look.

  • @jamesm568
    @jamesm568 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just left a GMC dealer and they say these trucks are not selling as they've been sitting on their lots for months now.

  • @davedavid0
    @davedavid0 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    It needs more letters and numbers in its name.

    • @garretlewis4103
      @garretlewis4103 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The GMC AT4X AEV EIEIO

  • @sugonmaballs
    @sugonmaballs 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Nothing is a Jeep (Wrangler) killer with that wheelbase. 😜

    • @nathanwoten6236
      @nathanwoten6236 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Exactly. Even with a comparable wheelbase there's nothing that is TRUELY competitive to the Wrangler Rubicon. Especially when u start doing modifications. Now yes I know you can build anything to beat anything but I'm talking an average build with mostly bolt ons and light fab work. Like adding 1 tons, a long arm kit a custom cage, or building rocksliders, that kinda shit not back halfing or building a new frame and hacking the body up or dove tailing the front and rear that's more than light fab work. Everyone tries to argue that a wrangler only having 33 means it's garbage or what ever but tires are usually the first thing I replace on a vehicle. I have bought new tires on almost every vehicle I've bought new and used. I did with in the first week of buying 2023 5500 ram last year I actually had tires and wheels and some other parts waiting at home for my JL when I picked it up 2021. So that argument is dumb to me and the bronco just shatters steering components when u start wheeling it Especially when u start putting bigger tires so other than that what actually is there to compete. All the trucks are 2 big and the midsized trucks like Tacoma can't come close with out a lot of work

    • @RJ-vc2ju
      @RJ-vc2ju 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep, and no solid rear axle... Come on Andre!

    • @largol33t12
      @largol33t12 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Don't worry, the Wrangler EV is horribly unreliable. Have read a ton of stories about them breaking down by the side of the road. 😂

    • @harolddenton6031
      @harolddenton6031 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Rubicon gladiators last may of 2023 were 58 to 60 grand.

    • @Zay-uo2do
      @Zay-uo2do 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@largol33t12 you must be reading fake stories then, my girlfriends Willys ev is great, hardly has to gas up. And it handles great off-roading

  • @texZR2
    @texZR2 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Cool to see a HUD on a midsize. I believe that is a first in the segment.
    I too wish it had more power.. but I'm sure aftermarket will come up with something.
    Solid review.

    • @allanw6103
      @allanw6103 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      WHAT IS HUD?

    • @texZR2
      @texZR2 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@allanw6103 Heads Up Display (HUD)

  • @ponce1521
    @ponce1521 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I remember in 2019 a Chevy Silverado hd with the 6.6 duramax almost fully loaded was upper 60s!! Wtf!!!! These prices are just asinine!! A mid size truck for upper 60s just blows my mind. I make really good money too and this is still just insane!

    • @warmaster88
      @warmaster88 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Now it's like 90 lol ridiculous

    • @macbookpro57
      @macbookpro57 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      And guess what? People are still paying those prices, because anything with legs can get approved for a car loan these days lol. Ruins the market for the financially smart people like us who don't blow their entire salary on a vehicle...

    • @agc7582
      @agc7582 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I hear that - I paid $55K for my 2017 Silverado 3500 Crew Diesel. The upside is I sold it this year for $55K with 50K miles on it. Bought a 2024 Silverado LTZ Crew diesel and paid MSRP of $82K and change. Crazy how much new vehicle costs are going up.

    • @jayhiggins5239
      @jayhiggins5239 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Now tou realise how little your $ is worth. Vote according.

    • @ponce1521
      @ponce1521 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jayhiggins5239 Gotcha. Voting for the other party next year will Def make this truck 35k again! Lets go!

  • @jaredstrauss617
    @jaredstrauss617 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I wish they would take this exact truck and just stretch everything to make it a full size. It looks way better than the Sierra.

    • @largol33t12
      @largol33t12 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Canyon is already so large that it will NOT fit an average garage. My dad has a '22 Dodge RAM with the "short" truck bed and it doesn't fit in the garage.

  • @kd4900
    @kd4900 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I went to the dealer to test drive this truck and I was surprised about how small it’s is. There is not a lot of space on the inside.

  • @BaconCruiser
    @BaconCruiser 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    At these price points we should be able to purchase direct from the manufacturer as the dealer franchise model has failed consumers. Also if these trucks are demanding a premium price they should be fully ready for a dirty life e.g. full xpel PPF, Switch Pro, Anderson plugs wired to the bed and roof, and dual battery from factory.

  • @garbinator09
    @garbinator09 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As an old dude, Such well appointed vehicles were only dreamed about in the 70’s through 2000’s. None were ever as factory equipped as we see here. Eddie Bower was the hot shit as I recall. Fords Bronco. Paint scheme interior, AT tires, that was that. Well to do consumers had the bucks to glimmer all they wished then, thesedays, the sky’s the limit. My young gun neighbors get themselves into vast debt by high dollar special purpose off road machines then suffer the errors of their ways years later. Wether bought outright such as this AT4 or, completely customized/upgraded as a off-road shop.

  • @BDevi0us
    @BDevi0us 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The white interior and back bed tire mount are a huge dealer breaker for me. Other than that it's bad ass!

  • @Markt3834
    @Markt3834 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Long wheel base and soccer mom van IFS is physically impossible to be better off road than a solid axle Wrangler

    • @jimyeats
      @jimyeats 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That was my immediate first thought as well.

    • @grisa12345
      @grisa12345 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Facts.

  • @paulblack5883
    @paulblack5883 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    A midsize truck with an entry price point of the average fullsize..insane to fork over that kind of money for a base midsize

    • @jo-jw4xt
      @jo-jw4xt 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      nobody needs a full size truck.

    • @largol33t12
      @largol33t12 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's why I don't see them selling very many. GM is still living in the 90s. Always behind the times.

  • @bigcod14
    @bigcod14 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    There's a dealership near me in Atlanta. Trying to sell a Ford raptor for a 145 K. And they say that's MSRP LOL.

  • @doublebackagain4311
    @doublebackagain4311 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Same size tire fits my Gladiator Rubicon with no lift.
    Low range = 4:1 ratio (versus 2.72 Chevy)
    Spare tire tucked away under the bed on JT.
    Factory winch-capable bumper.
    Better sight lines over hood.
    JT top & doors come off for better off-road experience.
    No white interior parts to get filthy 😆 Also more rear legroom.
    Pretty comfortable saying Jeep isn't going to be 'Kilt' any time soon. Colorado is a nice truck tho-

    • @ryankunkel8247
      @ryankunkel8247 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      All true but for some the Gladiator looks like straight trash. There is no fixing those aesthetics.

    • @wolfgang_h3t
      @wolfgang_h3t 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You really don't need a 4:1 tcase with modern autos, not really the case with a manual I suppose, but if you wanted a manual you're probably not actually buying a new truck to begin with lmao

  • @travisruskin2024
    @travisruskin2024 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nothing you showcased here, justifies the price

  • @christophercassidy1075
    @christophercassidy1075 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Looking forward to watching this soon!

    • @TFLtruck
      @TFLtruck  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you.

    • @christophercassidy1075
      @christophercassidy1075 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Love it. What do you think about doing a comparison of this GMC Canyon AT4X AEV to Chevrolet Colorado ZR2 Bison?

  • @mikemccabe7124
    @mikemccabe7124 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I love my 22 gmc canyon and have been wanting to upgrade to the 24 gmc canyon for the interior and engine that it's equiped with

  • @abqcrutch
    @abqcrutch 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No digital rear-view mirror?

  • @djjd3027
    @djjd3027 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Just absurdly overpriced. What a joke

  • @patriot5526
    @patriot5526 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is a great limited purpose off roader. My only issue with this, just like Toyota or Jeep, is that at 6’5” tall and weighing 220 lbs, I can’t comfortably fit in any of them. I’ve always wanted a Toyota, but I can’t really have one. I will have to stick with HD’s. The Power Wagon , Tremor, or the GMC AEV are the best for guys like me.

  • @quadwayne
    @quadwayne 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for showing that it had no truck box at 44 seconds, permitted me to move on to video's that talk about real trucks. No discredit to you or any of your work, have been a subscriber for some time.

  • @derrickschultz6871
    @derrickschultz6871 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    You guys should do a poll. Which auto makes survive it after this union fiasco and pending/definite recession. Looks like we might have a replay of the last one. Maybe ford gets taken down this time because of their ev follies.

    • @derrickschultz6871
      @derrickschultz6871 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Beauty of a truck though, but they stole profile of the old toyota tacos.

    • @TFLtruck
      @TFLtruck  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      We are indeed looking at some tough times.

  • @christianglaude6659
    @christianglaude6659 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I'd still choose a jeep Gladiator over that

    • @1guyin10
      @1guyin10 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I would if Jeep would upgrade their seats. I own two Wranglers and they are great vehicles, but the seats are torture devices after a couple of hours.

    • @christianglaude6659
      @christianglaude6659 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@1guyin10 I believe it be cheaper buying better seats than the reliability of a GM.
      But that's just my opinion.

  • @Max-kn9yi
    @Max-kn9yi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you need the extra payload. Just get the seirra version. Problem is they put smaller tires on it which makes no sense. This should of just had the 33's.

  • @mikefoehr235
    @mikefoehr235 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    When will the first recall happen?? Can't be far away.

    • @shiftmotorsports9803
      @shiftmotorsports9803 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It's not a Toyota. I know you Toyota guys are used to recalls.

    • @osutx427
      @osutx427 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@shiftmotorsports9803lol that's cute. my 2020 Tundra has never had a recall, but nice try

    • @shiftmotorsports9803
      @shiftmotorsports9803 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @osutx427 what's cute is you think I can't do research. 2020 Tundra has 5 recalls. Nice try

    • @mikefoehr235
      @mikefoehr235 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@shiftmotorsports9803 well the last recall we had on a Toyota was back in 2005. Our 04 Corolla had one. Then my 13 Tacoma had ZERO...my wife's 16 RAV 4 had ZERO and my 20 Tundra so far has had ZERO. So four Toyotas in almost 20 year span and one recall. Now according to BEN HARDY, Ford was number one last year for recalls and GM was number two. Yes....they are outstanding auto makers.

    • @mikefoehr235
      @mikefoehr235 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Pantelifts10 To bolster your point....My wife and I towed our 5 000 pound camper from Ontario to BC....5 000 kms there and 5 000 kms back with my 13 Tacoma. The only thing I did was gas and one oil change. Pretty impressive I think. Did the same trip with my wife's RAV 4 for our daughter's wedding. Only thing needed was gas. I think that says something about Toyota.

  • @dougpendleton1266
    @dougpendleton1266 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    IFS, Turbo 4 as opposed to a reliable normally aspirated V6 with a stronger solid front axle... Not to mention being able to shed the doors and top. Hardly a jeep "killer"

  • @mrgmc6314
    @mrgmc6314 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    If the top of the line model was 45 thousand peak price and the base model was 20 thousand it would be alot more reasonable to consider purchasing ...

    • @mjareacts2731
      @mjareacts2731 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Although I do agree with you that these vehicles should be cheaper in the mid truck section, you are not getting anything this built up incapable for 45K from any brand. 20K will get you a stripped down Polaris Slingshot, what makes you that's going to get you a truck in 2023?

    • @sammyjammy6647
      @sammyjammy6647 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Back in 2011 I purchased a Toyota Camry LE which was just above the base model(Toyota eliminated the base trims in the following years). That LE was just under 21k at that time. Fast forward 13 years and you expect a base off road truck to go for 20k? Yeah you must be 15 years old that doesn’t know how inflation and the devaluation of the dollar works. Go back to school, study, and come back a competent person before you type whatever in comment threads

    • @mrgmc6314
      @mrgmc6314 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @sammyjammy6647
      Any truck midsized for 20 thousand for a base model ... not for nothing but the maverick was close to 20 grand when it came out 2 years ago for a base model... yes the maverick isn't a midsized truck but it's close ... and cheap ...

    • @sammyjammy6647
      @sammyjammy6647 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mrgmc6314 yes but the Maverick is not an off-road truck with enhanced suspension etc. I’m not even sure if the Maverick that you’re talking about is body on frame or unibody. if it’s unibody it’s not off-road at all. The maverick is basically an economy car with a bed in the back

    • @mrgmc6314
      @mrgmc6314 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @sammyjammy6647 agreed but it's shaped like a truck , also I don't necessarily need off-road focused truck ,,, just something with truck capability ,, I had a 2002 s10 with a 5 speed and short bed regular cab ,,, honestly it was enough truck ,,, I'm 42 I don't need nor can afford a fancy truck , a basic crew cab short bed 2 or 4wd truck from the midsized segment should start 20 - 25 thousand and fully loaded by 50 k ,,,, most people don't understand we don't need all this fancy stuff ,,,

  • @WSmith-ne5ks
    @WSmith-ne5ks 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would appreciate a street colorado. Give me that twin turbo off the line performance. Barely anyone with these will offroad might as well as have fun on the road.

  • @leavingarizona3345
    @leavingarizona3345 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think the 974 payload matches my ford focus

  • @Smyth1122
    @Smyth1122 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My 23 Jeep Gladiator is on 35s and my spare tire which is a 35 mounts underneath my rig no issue!

  • @johnmcalisterjr3913
    @johnmcalisterjr3913 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like the cottages in the back ground

  • @ojbarberena7090
    @ojbarberena7090 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Way to much $$$$.

  • @qdog494
    @qdog494 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Crazy…you can get a f350 XL off-road with a rear locker and diesel for 67k with a few options

  • @user-vd9cw6df9p
    @user-vd9cw6df9p 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Most people are talking about the price or the payload it lacks, it's basically a car with 4x4...Eco nuts ruin everything and this is the result of that 4cyl trucks??? GM could have kept the 3.6 V6 and found a way to pump out more power from it, but no we going Tokyo drift from midsize to full-size. Bravo

  • @4Whopper
    @4Whopper 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can a camper shell get on this with the spare mounted like that?

  • @whocaresjustdoit
    @whocaresjustdoit 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Great review Andre! I still like the look of the ZR2 Bison more but this truck is also beautiful!
    Only thing I don’t like about these trucks is the payload.

  • @jermsman18
    @jermsman18 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Once you add the rooftop tent and overland gear it could get dicey on payload. But man the capability here is impressive. What would it take to increase the payload? Or is the limitation the frame itself?

    • @robertyoung8289
      @robertyoung8289 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just less off road specific shocks and perhaps a add a leaf. Everything else the same.

    • @jermsman18
      @jermsman18 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@robertyoung8289I think you are right. Makes me curious if you could build it better starting with a cheap two door and adding your own setup. Not practical but it sure would be fun.

    • @robertyoung8289
      @robertyoung8289 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jermsman18 Absolutely you could. I drive a magnificent 2020 Tacoma TRD PRO. I've got 50yrs of off road experience. This is the most capable vehicle I've ever owned. With that said the high end tech is interesting and I have used it a few times but give me a base SR5 at close to half the price and let me use my experience to build it my way and it will perform as good or better for less money. (My TRD PRO also has a 900 lb GVW).

  • @number1yota
    @number1yota หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really hope this puts pressure on Toyota to give us front lockers from the factory in the TRD's

  • @RayGrau
    @RayGrau 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Didn't show the back seats? Who can fit in the back seats?

    • @TFLtruck
      @TFLtruck  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      We had our camera gear in the back seat.

    • @RayGrau
      @RayGrau 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ahhh still should have shown the back seat. No excuse unless like the rest of the truck a disappointment (betting it is). Definitely doesn't seem like a jeep killer to me. But will wait for the off roading video to come out.

  • @Luke_from_GA
    @Luke_from_GA 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If they would have used the same digital rear view mirror from the full sized truck the bed mounted tire would be easier to overcome

  • @garbinator09
    @garbinator09 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Regarding this pickup. It is a specialty vehicle. Its built around its intended purpose. Its not meant to be a hauler or any kind of heavy towing platform. Otherwise thousands of dollars must be invested to make it worthy of towing heavy down the road.
    Seems to negate the primary purpose of this pickup. If towing 30 foot trailer is the mission, go with the Sierra size pickup. Its hard to have one’s cake and eat it too.

  • @efibendor1
    @efibendor1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is there a 3L diesel version?

  • @Libertarian_Neighbor
    @Libertarian_Neighbor 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    For almost $70k they should just throw a V8 in there that sounds awesome and gets 11 mpg. Whoever can afford this won’t care about gas prices.

    • @is6566
      @is6566 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ Liber… Agree but the company cares about the cafe standards that the 11 mpg will reduce. They just can’t afford it anymore. Elections have consequences.

    • @Cavemol5823
      @Cavemol5823 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It already gets terrible Mpg anyways 😂

  • @RJ-vc2ju
    @RJ-vc2ju 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I may be wrong, but that 12" of ground clearance does not appear to be measured to the bottom of the pumpkin.

  • @2ndAmendment-Jeffrey
    @2ndAmendment-Jeffrey 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent review as per usual.

  • @markco4911
    @markco4911 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Best midsize pick up in the market today.

  • @rjmoose8918
    @rjmoose8918 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not liking the white interior especially for a off road truck. What's your opinion on how it compares to the RAM Power Wagon?

  • @ovi765
    @ovi765 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    How do you think the Tacoma Trail Hunter will do against this?

  • @ivaniuk123
    @ivaniuk123 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What's the difference between that truck and the Chevy Colorado Bison? To me they look like the exact same truck down to the engine?

  • @johnnyk617
    @johnnyk617 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wild that the spare tire is horizontal and not vertically mounted

  • @markspence3750
    @markspence3750 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yall should do a ZR2 vs. AT4X vs. 4Door Wrangler/Unlimited comparison.... both on 35s and same sized wheels.... hopefully 17s or 16s. I think the wheelbase length will make the difference, plus rear lockers. Towing capability might be the selling point, plus cameras. I do not think payload will matter in vehicles like this. These are not "work" trucks, per se.

  • @GregEmburyK4GTE
    @GregEmburyK4GTE 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Colorado ZR2 is the best buy in a mid size 4X4. 7-20k less than a Canyon AT4X or Gladiator Rubicon/Mojave

  • @simongjonaj6360
    @simongjonaj6360 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does it have a rear view camera?

  • @bostondan77
    @bostondan77 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This is a much more handsome truck compared to the the Gladiator and Tacoma IMO. Hopefully GM lets you take this out to Colorado.

  • @Travisj9935
    @Travisj9935 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Right. Which is most expensive and least reliable. These two should be at the top of that list!

  • @GroundskeeperJBL
    @GroundskeeperJBL 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Anything that is considered to be jeep killer is roof needs to come of and doors need to come off. Otherwise no

  • @jamesvasser2941
    @jamesvasser2941 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Andre, can you sit behind yourself (drivers seating position)? I recall you saying that you are over 6 foot tall. I’m 6’1” and about 235lbs, for me to sit comfortably, is there room for a normal sized adult (or someone my size) to sit behind me comfortably?
    I know In the gladiator I can sit behind myself but I can’t imagine I could for more than an hour or two (sit pretty upright).

    • @newmexicosaint
      @newmexicosaint 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There is not room in the back seat behind a 6 foot driver/passenger.

  • @Max-kn9yi
    @Max-kn9yi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would move the spare to the back with swing

  • @Jay-me7gw
    @Jay-me7gw 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Those are narrow 315/70's I bet. The Bronco Sasquatch runs the same tire in a 315/70 and its a VERY narrow 315. I had 315/70R17 KO2's from a Raptor, and 285/70R17 KO2's from a Wrangler Rubicon. Then I bought a set of these off a Bronco to replace my KO2's. These were about an inch narrower than the 315/70 KO2's and almost identical in width to the 285's.
    Not saying this is a bad thing, it's exactly why I bought them. They are light weight and narrow, more like a 285/80R17, and I picked up almost 1mpg on my F150 vs the KO2's and the truck just feels spunkier and happier but I still get the full diameter of a 315/70.

    • @Hooner77
      @Hooner77 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Interesting observation. So, 315 mm section width is 12.4 inches and 285 mm is 11.22 inches. When you look at the specs for the BFG KO2s it lists a section width of 13.0 inches (330 mm) for the 315/70R17 and 12.0 inches (304 mm) for the 285/70R17. Goodyear does not list the section width for the Wranglers, but it appears you measured 12 inches wide. This would match the BFG 285 tire as you stated. If you do the math for the diameter a 315/70R17 should be 34.7 inches. This lines up with the published specs for both the BFG and Goodyear. So, it appears that BFG makes them wide, and Goodyear makes them narrow. For comparison the Falken 315/70R17 Wildpeak A/T3 is 12.7 inches wide and 34.7 inches tall. The bottom line is that even though it is the same tire size (e.g., 315/70R17) the width and height can vary from one manufacture to another. As you clearly stated "Not saying this is a bad thing" rings true.
      A couple of disappointing things I found when looking up the tire specs were. Goodyear not listing the section width for there tires (Come On Man). The other one was looking at the specs for the BFG KO2 in a 35x12.5R17. When I see that listed I would expect the tire to be 35" tall and 12.5" wide but no. The diameter is 34.5 " and the width is 13"

    • @Jay-me7gw
      @Jay-me7gw 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Hooner77 If you go to tirerack, the Bronco versions of the Territory MT in 315/70 is listed as 12.7" section width, but the tread width is listed as only 9.2". The 315/70 KO2's from the Raptor are 12.7" section width but 10" tread width. 285/70 KO2's from the Rubicon are 11.5" section width but 9.3" tread width.
      And that's exactly what I observed in person. When I had the Territory's off the truck i put them tread to tread with the 285/70R17 KO2 spare I had on my Lexus GX, and they are nearly identical in tread width. The Territory MT might have a little more sidewall width, but the actually tread is the virtually the same as the 285/70.
      But that is exactly why they bought them. They are the same diameter as a normal 315/70, but they run narrow and lighter and it really improved how my F150 drives vs the 315/70 KO2's. I dont wheel my F150 that hard so I was not to concerned.

  • @lettuce235
    @lettuce235 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don’t see a problem with the tire in the bed what else are they supposed to do

  • @marklyons4999
    @marklyons4999 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    No payload, no bed space, white interior (what the), and an outrageous price tag.

  • @off-roadingcars
    @off-roadingcars 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is this essentially a Bison?

    • @is6566
      @is6566 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes.

  • @morningdrums
    @morningdrums 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are you saying I should go out and buy this?

  • @theonlyDougBlack
    @theonlyDougBlack 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've watched a few of these videos now. You keep talking about the TRD Pro, wouldn't the Trail Hunter be a better comparison? I wouldn't shop this truck against the TRD Pro, it's a desert runner, not a utilitarian truck. In your Moab video you said the same thing. I don't think the TRD Pro is really a slow trail vehicle, even by Toyota's own admission. I think the Trail Hunter would be a more apples to apples comparison.

  • @Ford1MS
    @Ford1MS 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They need to bring back the knobs for the headlights and how hard is it to put a power rear sliding window in. Common gm

  • @Philballer17
    @Philballer17 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I can promise you it’s not a jeep killer with IFS lmao😂

  • @Ww8.3
    @Ww8.3 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Uh a regular wrangler still has better approach and departure angles plus cruise control standard ;)

  • @RMC2021
    @RMC2021 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This has to be the absolute best option for the midsize off-road segment. I would take this over a tacoma, gladiator etc...

    • @jo-jw4xt
      @jo-jw4xt 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it's heavy and underpowered

    • @RMC2021
      @RMC2021 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Everything in the segment is severely under powered. I still think it’s the best option hands down.

  • @scottsettemeyer2875
    @scottsettemeyer2875 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Spare tire location is a deal breaker for me.

    • @allanw6103
      @allanw6103 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      THEN WHERE WOULD YOU PUT A 35? IT WONT GO UNDERNEATH.

    • @wolfgang_h3t
      @wolfgang_h3t 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@allanw6103 Swing gate would've been slick, and worked much better

  • @cornhusker2006
    @cornhusker2006 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for another in depth analysis.

  • @tranquility7692
    @tranquility7692 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    More power? Those are really similar specs to my 1997 K3500's 454!

  • @steved1681
    @steved1681 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rock sliders bolted to the body? Why not frame mounted ?

    • @Jay-me7gw
      @Jay-me7gw 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was wondering this as well. Will they actually support the weight of the truck if you dropped it on a rock or are we looking at a bend body where they mount?

  • @louiewiessv5756
    @louiewiessv5756 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The 5ft bed kills it for me , the white interior not sure about how easy to clean and only. 4cylinder option sucks
    Mainly the small bed

  • @OntarioBearHunter
    @OntarioBearHunter 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    lol.. nothing has killed the wrangler only thing that will are more shyyty tech additions and ridiculous pricing, which is all vehicles these days.

  • @the305hauler
    @the305hauler 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Booyah 👊🏽 😁 👍🏽 🇺🇸
    Price is ridiculous

  • @joelalvarado279
    @joelalvarado279 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How much does it cost to??

  • @markv78
    @markv78 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would love to see what the truck would do with a tire that stores properly keep an extra set of 35snfor the extreme stuff maybe ..this truck is for the .5% of the market and bragging rights ..love the looks but not at the cost of practicality..

  • @user-xl1vm3fx7u
    @user-xl1vm3fx7u 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Dual lockers for mall crawling ? Probably for the flatbed tow truck.

  • @Max-kn9yi
    @Max-kn9yi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sad thing is you cant use your gm employee discount on this...i see they care about the employees.