Jim Clark in F1 Starts - 72 Wins - 25 DNF's due to mechanical faults - 21 DNF's due to driver error - 1 DNF's due to collisions - 1 As people said, Jim Clark did not make mistakes (well, apart from once but to be fair the team put him on the wrong tyres)
With better car preparation, he would probably have won 5 World Championships and at least 30 Grands Prix. If the Speedway had followed their own rules, he would have won the 500 in 1963 because Parnelli Jones would have been black flagged for spewing oil. Clark's DNF in 1964 was also probably due to Chapman deciding to use soft compound Dunlop tires in the race, despite Dunlop having no experience designing tires for banked ovals and the soft compound not holding up well. Tire failure led to suspension failure. Lotus used Firestone tires in 1963 and 1965 and one set lasted the full race. So, 5 World Championships + record for most GP wins + 3 Indy 500 wins = clear GOAT.
@@jimiverson3085 It's generally regarded that Clark would have retired had he won a third title (or at the very least within the season or two) So it's very unlikely he would ever have gotten that many titles despite being the GOAT.
it's not just the wins etc, it's that he did those wins while other people in Lotuses didn't get higher than 5th or 6th. Lotus won the constructors championship with all-but-2 of the points being Jim's. While using less fuel, less brakes, less tyres, less mechanical wear, less mistakes. In any conversation about all time greats, Jim is always underrated.
Lloyd Ruby is in my opinion, one of the greatest drivers to never win the race, he had a great shot to win in 1966 and 1969, but both times he ran into issues and lost to some of the best drivers of all time.
100% He was going to take advantage of the Andretti Curse until he found out Lloyd Ruby Bad luck was even more potent. Tough to watch, what a wheel man.
I was at this race. My dads WW2 Marine Corps buddy lived across the street from the track. I was at the 500 from 1956 until 1969. The Brits were fabulous. In my old guy’s opinion Jim Clark was the best F1 driver. In those days they drove all kinds of races. I also think Graham Hill does not get the credit he deserves. I was fortunate enough from 1965 through 1969 to have a pit pass and a pass to gasoline alley. My dads buddy worked at the track for the month of May. It was not nearly as strict or organized as it is now. As a teenager roaming around with the likes of Clark, Gurney, Hill, Foyt, Lloyd Ruby , Mario in gasoline alley was so exciting. The fellow who commented on Lloyd Ruby is right. He was a great driver. He drove ovals, road, sprint cars, stock cars, midgets and sports cars at LeMans. He was a quiet gentleman.
While I am an America, I've never taken the stance of patriatism in the world of motorsports. The Indy 500 is a world class event and it doesn't matter what country the winner is from. A win at Indy is still a win at Indy. And while some might scoff at a British driver winning this "American event" without doing a lot of passing. Well, Hill ran the 500 miles and crossed the finish line first. That's racing! He endured every calamity around him and survived. Great video Aidan!
I presume Graham Hill was late taking his rookie test as he wasn't officially entered until sometime in mid-April. He took over the Red Ball Lola from Walt Hansgen who was killed on 7th April '66 testing for Le Mans. Apparently, Hill was entered so late that he wasn't listed in the race programme and fans were asking who he was.
She - and the other various wives & long-term girlfriends - are thoroughly underrated when it comes to the success of their men. I'm not even saying "IMHO", it's a fact.
1966 was the first 500 I attended. The confusion only added to the drama and excitement. I agree with the previous comment that "Hard-Luck Lloyd" Ruby had the most dominant car until his oil started leaking. Nevertheless, I thought it was great that Hill won that.
In my opinion about the F1 Goat id honestly say the most complete and pure driver is Jim clark. That man truly had supernatural skills behind the wheel. He cld do anything in any car. I only wish that F2 race in 1968 never happened. Its funny and sad how both Clark and Senna were in a poor state and didn't really want to race the day they died.
So, so very TRUE and so, so very TRAGIC! I've never felt the loss of a Race Car Driver as deeply and as personally as the day that "OUR" Jimmy Clark was lost to the fate of his uncomfortable entry in a non essential F2 race at the Hockenheim. Such a horrible loss of not only the truest natural driver of all of OUR lifetimes but the loss of a man who seemed (sincerely) to be "A Great Human Being." I still grieve to this day of his tragic and untimely loss to not only the world of racing but, the loss to Humanity.
Similarly to how you have Andretti clark and Loeb ahead in terms of best racers of all time before considering others, mine is John Surtees for winning world titles on 2 and 4 wheels. I mean he won the Isle of Man tt multiple times for crying out loud!
Stewart and Hill also had a third teammate. Rodger Ward, himself a two-time winner of the 500, drove the third Mecum Lola, powered by a turbo Offy, in the last race of his very successful career.
one of my favorite stories I've heard from this time was some of the Indy guys took Clark and Stewart to a dirt track race and they both said those cars were mental. One of the drivers suggested Clark or Stewart should take one out for a few hot laps to which Clark (pretty sure it was Clark, might have been Stewart) responded "sorry I forgot my helmet at the hotel", so one of the Unsers offered theirs to which Clark (again or Stewart) said "I forgot my balls too."
That is a true story from a Sprint Car race at the fabled ASCOT race track in the Los Angeles California area, run by the legendary J.C. Agajanian. The car in question belonged to Clint Brawner and his offer was to Jackie Stewart. The source that I make my claim of authenticity is the man whose understanding and memory of all things American Racing was "The Great, Chris Economaki" as he told the story on a one hour special aired on the Sunday night Speed Channel Special Broadcast: "Wind Tunnel" with the equally legendary Dave Despain. Nevertheless, it was a rousingly funny story. Only to be topped by Chris' telling of his ABC interview with A.J. Foyt at Langhorne. The punch line can't be told in polite company, so you'll have to look it up. PS, I finished reading Chris Economaki's Semi Autobiography, entitled "Let 'em all Go!" It's like reading a history text all about Sprint and AAA Dirt 'Big Car' tracing from the 1930's forward. It's a really good read.
Another wonderful one, Aidan! I watched this one on closed circuit in theatres with my dad. We loved Jim Clark - my dad's favorite racing driver! At the time he thought Clark won, but it didn't turn out that way. There was a few minutes my 7 year old mind was wondering if there would be any cars left at the end :). Great memories.
Well the one that springs to mind is the Monza shunt that killed Taffy von Trips where for two years afterwards he had the Italian judiciary on Jim Clark's case. He was acquitted and largely exonerated but it was that kind of thing where it's there and people make their own conclusions.
Damn bro, just gotta say again I love how your videos are as equally informative and interesting, as they are funny. The "an hot take" killed me. Seriously one of the best youtubers around, and certainly in the top 3 of racing tubers. Gotta say as an American, I am not really into IndyCar, but your recent vids on Indy has got me curious to make the leap into it. There's no way I could afford to attend a US F1 race, however Indy... far more manageable
You are right: Indycar races are much more accessible (cheaper and just more welcoming). I think you are in for a treat, whether you watch on TV or are lucky enough to see one in person. I live in the UK and have seen Champcar live but not Indy. It is my dream to see an Indy 500 live - not a modern F1 race (yuk!)
Back in the days when the 500 was part of the championship, USAC cars were technically built to Formula 1/I/A regulations. Formulae 1/I/A, 2/II/B, and 3/500cc back then were basically based on engine displacement and car weight, as was the case with Grand Prix classes right back to the early days.
Aidan: With regards to Jim Clark with driving error resulting in a crash, you may want to research the circumstances in the 1961 Italian GP; the race where Wolfgang Von Trips lost his life in a race crash. Supposedly Clark was involved in that mishap, but details of it I'm not going to elaborate on, as it's been decades since I last read-up on that subject, and it was from the perspective of a Jim Clark bio I read.
Love your videos pal, best thing about racing going on the internet. Keep up the good work. How about a video about how jaguar lost a diamond at the Monaco grand Prix?
7:57 That's not the car Danny Sullivan spun and won in. That would be the #5 Miller High Life car he drove for Penske. Doug Shierson Racing ran the #30 Dominos car from 1982-1990. They had drivers Howdy Holmes (1982-83), Sullivan in 1984, Al Unser Jr. (1985-1987), Raul Boesel (1988-89) and Arie Luyendyk in 1990, the year he won Indy and at the time had the fastest 500 in history. Shierson lost his Dominos sponsorship in 1990 due to the reason he chose #30. Dominoes had a, "30 minutes or free" guarantee, Drivers were breaking speed limits, and one got into a fatal accident, leading Dominos to think that maybe sponsoring a race team would be a bad idea. Sold the team to the owner of the company that made Uno, and they would later merge with Granatelli.
Really interesting. It's great to hear about the races that don't generally get talked about by the "professionals". I was wondering, if you and a bunch of other YT petrolheads get together and form some sort of official group, you could have a joint "pool" of licensed images to use between you. I don't know about the legality of it all, but I'm sure that it must be possible to do something along those lines. If you're interested, maybe there's a lawyer in your fanclub who'd be prepared to give some advice?
Have you seen the film Superswede? One of the points they make is that Peterson was basically sandbagged in 1978 as he was so much faster than Andretti.
Great video I love your channel man. In fact, I knew you were the coolest the day you were doing a live chat, and I asked you to sing a few verses from “Rage against the machine”and you eagerly obliged.😂👍🏻🤘🏻 keep up the good work brother
One reason F1 teams would go to Indy back in the 60s was the prize money (which was on a different level). Clark made more finishing second in 63 than for all his F1 wins combined. Do you have a patron/amazon account? I'd like to send you a copy of "Black Noon", an Account of the 1964' 500.
It's a surprise more teams didn't make the attempt for the prize money, and only one team (I think Maserati) tried it in the era when it paid World Championship points. You'd think the money would have been a temptation. From all reports, that's what finally got Chapman & Clark to give it a try. Also, Clark's 1964 bid was also ruined by a bad set-up, so even though the F1 guys had the highest tech, it seemed they did have some trouble setting up their cars for the oval, or Clark could have won 3 years in a row (64-65-66).
Absolutely agree. Jim Clark was simply the greatest. Sublime car handling in whatever car he drove.......and he drove pretty much anything and everything - F1, F2, Tasman Series, USAC, Le Mans, British Saloon Car Championship.......sometimes even at the same meeting - and don't forget he was killed in Hockenheim in a Lotus in F2 NOT F1. If it had wheels and an engine he would drive the nuts of it.
I totally agree with your top drivers of all time: Clark, Andretti and Loeb. The sixties was a time when there was so many of them around and injuries (and worse) often meant that there was always a wide variety of events and cars for them to show their skills in. Loeb is the only one from the modern era although I do have to admit that Michael Schumacher did show a very broad range of driving skills but never really competed in the variety of events like the drivers from bygone eras. I wonder who else will join them from our modern era ? My guess is that you should look no further than the current Mercedes F1 team - both Russell and Hamilton seem to have all those qualities that made the likes of Clark, Hill and Stewart true greats. The pity is that restrictive contracts will prevent us from seeing drivers compete in a wide range of events so we will never really know.
Unfortunately Cliff Richard was not part of the ‘British Invasion.’ As an American, I love Sir Cliff, but ask any of my compatriots and they’ll have no idea who Cliff Richard is.
That wink resurrected my Evolution GT PTSD. Now Gabriel Tarquini and his very off putting english dub in the english versions of the game is about to haunt me hard with his madness regarding the "Tiger Effect". Jokes aside, these stories are always fascinating to me. Always rattles my brain to know that there was time when pretty much all the data and telemetry that we basically have at our fingertips was entirely done on paper and stop watches. I don't even want to imagine that absolute mess these people had to sort through just to make sure it was all correct.
I really can't tell YOU how much your very neutral (real) informative videos mean to me!! Please wash your glasses. I like you and I am NOT being rude to you .... please, I do not want you to be mad at me...... Dave
I was in college in Indiana at the time, but was from Massachusetts, and followed F1, I knew little about the 500. I was surprised by the antagonism towards the F1, read European, teams. I was please to see the instruction.
Yeah, I'd go with that top 3, seems pretty solid. Indy is what you think of when you hear oval, it puts me in mind of Stewart on the DVD Murray Walker's F1 Greats, which I still have, where having only heard the name before and saw the road course at the Grand Prix, my introduction to ovals was Stewart saying "Indy was something I knew nothing about. All I'd seen were these horror pictures of the worst crashes you'd ever seen." (cue a few crashes) That told me ovals are no joke, if they leave Jackie Stewart cold. That wink is for the Indy 500 being won by 71 year old Fernando Alonso... 😉
I'm curious and interested about the purist aspect you mentioned by the way Aidan, specially the one regarding Non Americans winning the 500, specially now since we've been getting quite a handful lately. Kanaan, Castroneves, Montoya, Sato, Ericsson and a couple of calls also from Non Americans like Pato. Has there also been a knee jerk reaction to them winning as there was to the Brits?
US: 74 victories among 50 different drivers from 21 states. International: 33 victories among 23 drivers from 12 countries. Only the ignorant 'Homers' have knees that jerk. Just like the Brits.
@@ATEC101 yeah, as I expected. Still I find it funny, how a category such as Indy, known for it's welcomeness, it'd stir up a reaction like that even if small (in comparison) to talent from abroad wishing to take on the challenge of the 500
Sadly Gordy did win that edition. Well he was declared the winner of the race nobody wanted to win. Fortunately he would later win what many still say was the greatest 500. -U10
My wife was at that race and had Graham Hill picked for her in her daddy's office pool. Everybody kicked in a buck. She got $25, A pretty good haul for a 14 year old back then. She's certain it was Graham Hill! Just ask her. Gordon Johncock still Lives BTW ask him.
Well, do a produced one on Löeb. And if the goat argument is across sports, across generations; Dick siemen. If not, i'd like to point out that 3 pointers in NBA are FAR more common now than during the chicago bulls era. So, people be like who is better, jordan or like curry/lebron whoever. People get better in sports over time. I'm saying, pure ability; The best is hamilton or verstappen. People just get petter with biology and culture. So it's löeb if löeb is so high up yer list :)
@@AidanMillward Yea i remember it, and i do have such an opinion of him aswell. A very safe driver like clark, very little user error. Produced one meaning like a storytime more than just opinions, he'd have such a catalogue to choose from.
Poor whinging Seppo's. Oz has had imports stealing our local thunder for decades. But instead of complaining, like in Indy in 66, we colonials embrace it. In fact I've just found out Valentino Rossi is going to have a crack at the Bathurst 12 hour. Bring it on. & for those that don't speak Australian, American = Yank = Yank Tank = Septic Tank = Seppo.
Indianapolis is a bit overrated I reckon and all a bit pointless, one of those fringe motorsport oddities, like East European Motorcycle Speedway, Drifting, Truck Racing....Clark hated it, Chapman saw dollar signs, yawn. (There is a Brockbank cartoon which contrasted a 1950's Indy contraption with it's 1950's up-to-date F1 rival, very funny
Jim Clark in F1
Starts - 72
Wins - 25
DNF's due to mechanical faults - 21
DNF's due to driver error - 1
DNF's due to collisions - 1
As people said, Jim Clark did not make mistakes (well, apart from once but to be fair the team put him on the wrong tyres)
With better car preparation, he would probably have won 5 World Championships and at least 30 Grands Prix. If the Speedway had followed their own rules, he would have won the 500 in 1963 because Parnelli Jones would have been black flagged for spewing oil. Clark's DNF in 1964 was also probably due to Chapman deciding to use soft compound Dunlop tires in the race, despite Dunlop having no experience designing tires for banked ovals and the soft compound not holding up well. Tire failure led to suspension failure. Lotus used Firestone tires in 1963 and 1965 and one set lasted the full race.
So, 5 World Championships + record for most GP wins + 3 Indy 500 wins = clear GOAT.
@@jimiverson3085 It's generally regarded that Clark would have retired had he won a third title (or at the very least within the season or two)
So it's very unlikely he would ever have gotten that many titles despite being the GOAT.
it's not just the wins etc, it's that he did those wins while other people in Lotuses didn't get higher than 5th or 6th. Lotus won the constructors championship with all-but-2 of the points being Jim's.
While using less fuel, less brakes, less tyres, less mechanical wear, less mistakes. In any conversation about all time greats, Jim is always underrated.
Congrats on reposting the same stats again
Well he's not the GOAT for nothing
I'd add A. J. Foyt to that list too. Man could drive anything and won a lot in different classes.
Lloyd Ruby is in my opinion, one of the greatest drivers to never win the race, he had a great shot to win in 1966 and 1969, but both times he ran into issues and lost to some of the best drivers of all time.
100% He was going to take advantage of the Andretti Curse until he found out Lloyd Ruby Bad luck was even more potent. Tough to watch, what a wheel man.
I was at this race. My dads WW2 Marine Corps buddy lived across the street from the track. I was at the 500 from 1956 until 1969. The Brits were fabulous. In my old guy’s opinion Jim Clark was the best F1 driver. In those days they drove all kinds of races. I also think Graham Hill does not get the credit he deserves. I was fortunate enough from 1965 through 1969 to have a pit pass and a pass to gasoline alley. My dads buddy worked at the track for the month of May. It was not nearly as strict or organized as it is now. As a teenager roaming around with the likes of Clark, Gurney, Hill, Foyt, Lloyd Ruby , Mario in gasoline alley was so exciting. The fellow who commented on Lloyd Ruby is right. He was a great driver. He drove ovals, road, sprint cars, stock cars, midgets and sports cars at LeMans. He was a quiet gentleman.
Jim Clark, the true GOAT of F1.
Indy Purists: “there shouldn’t be too many foreigners!”
Indy Purists: “why aren’t there more cars entered?”
Indy purists: this is our sport, new people need to go away cos they know nothing.
Also Indy purists: y people no watch indycar? 😭
the only "Indy Purist" I accept is they should go back to front engines
@@nickb2049💀💀
@@nickb2049 everyone laughed when Don Panoz said the GT1 was going to be front engined, then they stopped when he said Adrian Raynard was designing it
Americans: "World Series"
Americans: "Only American teams"
While I am an America, I've never taken the stance of patriatism in the world of motorsports. The Indy 500 is a world class event and it doesn't matter what country the winner is from. A win at Indy is still a win at Indy. And while some might scoff at a British driver winning this "American event" without doing a lot of passing. Well, Hill ran the 500 miles and crossed the finish line first. That's racing! He endured every calamity around him and survived. Great video Aidan!
I presume Graham Hill was late taking his rookie test as he wasn't officially entered until sometime in mid-April. He took over the Red Ball Lola from Walt Hansgen who was killed on 7th April '66 testing for Le Mans. Apparently, Hill was entered so late that he wasn't listed in the race programme and fans were asking who he was.
Memories, watched it live at the Hammersmith Odean. Great uproar at the end when Bettie Hill got brought to the podium for a standing ovation!
She - and the other various wives & long-term girlfriends - are thoroughly underrated when it comes to the success of their men. I'm not even saying "IMHO", it's a fact.
1966 was the first 500 I attended. The confusion only added to the drama and excitement. I agree with the previous comment that "Hard-Luck Lloyd" Ruby had the most dominant car until his oil started leaking. Nevertheless, I thought it was great that Hill won that.
Clark was the best. So good. The Monza 67 race is nowhere near as famous as it should be.
Great video. I attended the race (age 11). I’ve always wondered why Clark had handling problems that day. It looked like he was on rails in 1965.
In my opinion about the F1 Goat id honestly say the most complete and pure driver is Jim clark. That man truly had supernatural skills behind the wheel. He cld do anything in any car. I only wish that F2 race in 1968 never happened. Its funny and sad how both Clark and Senna were in a poor state and didn't really want to race the day they died.
So, so very TRUE and so, so very TRAGIC! I've never felt the loss of a Race Car Driver as deeply and as personally as the day that "OUR" Jimmy Clark was lost to the fate of his uncomfortable entry in a non essential F2 race at the Hockenheim. Such a horrible loss of not only the truest natural driver of all of OUR lifetimes but the loss of a man who seemed (sincerely) to be "A Great Human Being." I still grieve to this day of his tragic and untimely loss to not only the world of racing but, the loss to Humanity.
Similarly to how you have Andretti clark and Loeb ahead in terms of best racers of all time before considering others, mine is John Surtees for winning world titles on 2 and 4 wheels. I mean he won the Isle of Man tt multiple times for crying out loud!
Stewart and Hill also had a third teammate. Rodger Ward, himself a two-time winner of the 500, drove the third Mecum Lola, powered by a turbo Offy, in the last race of his very successful career.
one of my favorite stories I've heard from this time was some of the Indy guys took Clark and Stewart to a dirt track race and they both said those cars were mental. One of the drivers suggested Clark or Stewart should take one out for a few hot laps to which Clark (pretty sure it was Clark, might have been Stewart) responded "sorry I forgot my helmet at the hotel", so one of the Unsers offered theirs to which Clark (again or Stewart) said "I forgot my balls too."
That is a true story from a Sprint Car race at the fabled ASCOT race track in the Los Angeles California area, run by the legendary J.C. Agajanian. The car in question belonged to Clint Brawner and his offer was to Jackie Stewart. The source that I make my claim of authenticity is the man whose understanding and memory of all things American Racing was "The Great, Chris Economaki" as he told the story on a one hour special aired on the Sunday night Speed Channel Special Broadcast: "Wind Tunnel" with the equally legendary Dave Despain. Nevertheless, it was a rousingly funny story. Only to be topped by Chris' telling of his ABC interview with A.J. Foyt at Langhorne. The punch line can't be told in polite company, so you'll have to look it up. PS, I finished reading Chris Economaki's Semi Autobiography, entitled "Let 'em all Go!" It's like reading a history text all about Sprint and AAA Dirt 'Big Car' tracing from the 1930's forward. It's a really good read.
Another wonderful one, Aidan! I watched this one on closed circuit in theatres with my dad. We loved Jim Clark - my dad's favorite racing driver! At the time he thought Clark won, but it didn't turn out that way. There was a few minutes my 7 year old mind was wondering if there would be any cars left at the end :). Great memories.
Well the one that springs to mind is the Monza shunt that killed Taffy von Trips where for two years afterwards he had the Italian judiciary on Jim Clark's case. He was acquitted and largely exonerated but it was that kind of thing where it's there and people make their own conclusions.
Damn bro, just gotta say again I love how your videos are as equally informative and interesting, as they are funny. The "an hot take" killed me. Seriously one of the best youtubers around, and certainly in the top 3 of racing tubers.
Gotta say as an American, I am not really into IndyCar, but your recent vids on Indy has got me curious to make the leap into it. There's no way I could afford to attend a US F1 race, however Indy... far more manageable
You are right: Indycar races are much more accessible (cheaper and just more welcoming). I think you are in for a treat, whether you watch on TV or are lucky enough to see one in person. I live in the UK and have seen Champcar live but not Indy. It is my dream to see an Indy 500 live - not a modern F1 race (yuk!)
Your videos are epic.
The content, the insight, the writing, the delivery.
Your driver ratings are spot on.
Back in the days when the 500 was part of the championship, USAC cars were technically built to Formula 1/I/A regulations. Formulae 1/I/A, 2/II/B, and 3/500cc back then were basically based on engine displacement and car weight, as was the case with Grand Prix classes right back to the early days.
Thank you for fixing the kerning on your title card! (And also for another great video.)
Aidan Millward under the weather = no shaving 😀
1966. My favourite Indy 500 of all time apart from many others.
On your list of best racing drivers don't forget Stephane Peterhansel, he deserves an episode all about him.
I've read that Clark was blamed for the crash at the Italian Grand Prix in 1961 that took the life of von Trips and 15 spectators.
Aidan: With regards to Jim Clark with driving error resulting in a crash, you may want to research the circumstances in the 1961 Italian GP; the race where Wolfgang Von Trips lost his life in a race crash. Supposedly Clark was involved in that mishap, but details of it I'm not going to elaborate on, as it's been decades since I last read-up on that subject, and it was from the perspective of a Jim Clark bio I read.
Love your videos pal, best thing about racing going on the internet. Keep up the good work. How about a video about how jaguar lost a diamond at the Monaco grand Prix?
7:57 That's not the car Danny Sullivan spun and won in. That would be the #5 Miller High Life car he drove for Penske.
Doug Shierson Racing ran the #30 Dominos car from 1982-1990. They had drivers Howdy Holmes (1982-83), Sullivan in 1984, Al Unser Jr. (1985-1987), Raul Boesel (1988-89) and Arie Luyendyk in 1990, the year he won Indy and at the time had the fastest 500 in history.
Shierson lost his Dominos sponsorship in 1990 due to the reason he chose #30. Dominoes had a, "30 minutes or free" guarantee, Drivers were breaking speed limits, and one got into a fatal accident, leading Dominos to think that maybe sponsoring a race team would be a bad idea. Sold the team to the owner of the company that made Uno, and they would later merge with Granatelli.
As an American I've gotta throw Petty up on that list with Clark, Andretti, and Loeb (which I 100% agree with)
Really interesting. It's great to hear about the races that don't generally get talked about by the "professionals".
I was wondering, if you and a bunch of other YT petrolheads get together and form some sort of official group, you could have a joint "pool" of licensed images to use between you. I don't know about the legality of it all, but I'm sure that it must be possible to do something along those lines. If you're interested, maybe there's a lawyer in your fanclub who'd be prepared to give some advice?
Guaranteed, I would be watching, up front row and center!
That was my first 500!
these videos are incredible, keep up the good work!
Have you seen the film Superswede? One of the points they make is that Peterson was basically sandbagged in 1978 as he was so much faster than Andretti.
Fun fact: the very next year (1967), John Mecom Jr. would go on to found an NFL team that wouldn't have a winning season in the 20 years he owned it.
Great video I love your channel man. In fact, I knew you were the coolest the day you were doing a live chat, and I asked you to sing a few verses from “Rage against the machine”and you eagerly obliged.😂👍🏻🤘🏻 keep up the good work brother
Love your content. Thoroughly enjoyed this.
Aidan...Absolutely love the channel and your observations.
Keep 'em coming.
PS..FYI : it came home on 31 July 2022
But it also came home on the 30th July 1966.
@@AidanMillward I like the symmetry of those dates and, both at home.
One reason F1 teams would go to Indy back in the 60s was the prize money (which was on a different level). Clark made more finishing second in 63 than for all his F1 wins combined. Do you have a patron/amazon account? I'd like to send you a copy of "Black Noon", an Account of the 1964' 500.
Black Noon might be the best book ever written about the Indianapolis 500.
It's a surprise more teams didn't make the attempt for the prize money, and only one team (I think Maserati) tried it in the era when it paid World Championship points. You'd think the money would have been a temptation. From all reports, that's what finally got Chapman & Clark to give it a try. Also, Clark's 1964 bid was also ruined by a bad set-up, so even though the F1 guys had the highest tech, it seemed they did have some trouble setting up their cars for the oval, or Clark could have won 3 years in a row (64-65-66).
Absolutely agree. Jim Clark was simply the greatest. Sublime car handling in whatever car he drove.......and he drove pretty much anything and everything - F1, F2, Tasman Series, USAC, Le Mans, British Saloon Car Championship.......sometimes even at the same meeting - and don't forget he was killed in Hockenheim in a Lotus in F2 NOT F1. If it had wheels and an engine he would drive the nuts of it.
I totally agree with your top drivers of all time: Clark, Andretti and Loeb. The sixties was a time when there was so many of them around and injuries (and worse) often meant that there was always a wide variety of events and cars for them to show their skills in. Loeb is the only one from the modern era although I do have to admit that Michael Schumacher did show a very broad range of driving skills but never really competed in the variety of events like the drivers from bygone eras. I wonder who else will join them from our modern era ? My guess is that you should look no further than the current Mercedes F1 team - both Russell and Hamilton seem to have all those qualities that made the likes of Clark, Hill and Stewart true greats. The pity is that restrictive contracts will prevent us from seeing drivers compete in a wide range of events so we will never really know.
Unfortunately Cliff Richard was not part of the ‘British Invasion.’
As an American, I love Sir Cliff, but ask any of my compatriots and they’ll have no idea who Cliff Richard is.
That wink resurrected my Evolution GT PTSD. Now Gabriel Tarquini and his very off putting english dub in the english versions of the game is about to haunt me hard with his madness regarding the "Tiger Effect".
Jokes aside, these stories are always fascinating to me. Always rattles my brain to know that there was time when pretty much all the data and telemetry that we basically have at our fingertips was entirely done on paper and stop watches. I don't even want to imagine that absolute mess these people had to sort through just to make sure it was all correct.
I really can't tell YOU how much your very neutral (real) informative videos mean to me!! Please wash your glasses. I like you and I am NOT being rude to you .... please, I do not want you to be mad at me...... Dave
I was in college in Indiana at the time, but was from Massachusetts, and followed F1, I knew little about the 500. I was surprised by the antagonism towards the F1, read European, teams. I was please to see the instruction.
thank you good one
Yeah, I'd go with that top 3, seems pretty solid.
Indy is what you think of when you hear oval, it puts me in mind of Stewart on the DVD Murray Walker's F1 Greats, which I still have, where having only heard the name before and saw the road course at the Grand Prix, my introduction to ovals was Stewart saying "Indy was something I knew nothing about. All I'd seen were these horror pictures of the worst crashes you'd ever seen." (cue a few crashes) That told me ovals are no joke, if they leave Jackie Stewart cold.
That wink is for the Indy 500 being won by 71 year old Fernando Alonso... 😉
It was for the split
when indi came home love it
Graham always tried to win by going as slow as needed...iff that meant flat out: that was fine with him
I'm curious and interested about the purist aspect you mentioned by the way Aidan, specially the one regarding Non Americans winning the 500, specially now since we've been getting quite a handful lately.
Kanaan, Castroneves, Montoya, Sato, Ericsson and a couple of calls also from Non Americans like Pato. Has there also been a knee jerk reaction to them winning as there was to the Brits?
US: 74 victories among 50 different drivers from 21 states. International: 33 victories among 23 drivers from 12 countries. Only the ignorant 'Homers' have knees that jerk. Just like the Brits.
@@ATEC101 yeah, as I expected. Still I find it funny, how a category such as Indy, known for it's welcomeness, it'd stir up a reaction like that even if small (in comparison) to talent from abroad wishing to take on the challenge of the 500
Another good story is the 1973 Indy 500. It's regarded as the worst Indy 500 in history with two deaths.
Sadly Gordy did win that edition. Well he was declared the winner of the race nobody wanted to win. Fortunately he would later win what many still say was the greatest 500. -U10
1964 though
My wife was at that race and had Graham Hill picked for her in her daddy's office pool. Everybody kicked in a buck. She got $25, A pretty good haul for a 14 year old back then. She's certain it was Graham Hill! Just ask her. Gordon Johncock still Lives BTW ask him.
2:20 No Walter Röhrl? ;)
2:10 Jacky Ickx?
6:12 LMFAO
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Well, do a produced one on Löeb.
And if the goat argument is across sports, across generations; Dick siemen. If not, i'd like to point out that 3 pointers in NBA are FAR more common now than during the chicago bulls era. So, people be like who is better, jordan or like curry/lebron whoever. People get better in sports over time. I'm saying, pure ability; The best is hamilton or verstappen. People just get petter with biology and culture.
So it's löeb if löeb is so high up yer list :)
I did a video earlier this year on whether loeb should be considered one of the goats.
@@AidanMillward Yea i remember it, and i do have such an opinion of him aswell. A very safe driver like clark, very little user error.
Produced one meaning like a storytime more than just opinions, he'd have such a catalogue to choose from.
Poor whinging Seppo's. Oz has had imports stealing our local thunder for decades. But instead of complaining, like in Indy in 66, we colonials embrace it. In fact I've just found out Valentino Rossi is going to have a crack at the Bathurst 12 hour. Bring it on.
& for those that don't speak Australian, American = Yank = Yank Tank = Septic Tank = Seppo.
Dude...clean your glasses! How can you see out?
Indianapolis is a bit overrated I reckon and all a bit pointless, one of those fringe motorsport oddities, like East European Motorcycle Speedway, Drifting, Truck Racing....Clark hated it, Chapman saw dollar signs, yawn. (There is a Brockbank cartoon which contrasted a 1950's Indy contraption with it's 1950's up-to-date F1 rival, very funny
Hill, Foyt and Clark were the best ever! They could drive anything and win!