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I have the 14" version of that Makita chainsaw. I just finished cutting up 40' gumbo tree in my backyard with it. It works great when the chain is kept sharp.
It's a nice one for sure. I got the greenworks brushless version today. I might do a comparison to the makita if my neighbor will loan it to me again. lol
I used my makita to cut a 50' oak tree with 14inch branches down to 2 inch and I'm here to tell y'all this makita saw is hands down the best battery saw on the market
Chris Garcia I agree. My neighbor bought a new gas Stihl chain saw but his wife keeps borrowing my battery powered Makita because it’s easier to use and works great.
Pretty good vid. It's really about "Platform". I am a Makita guy, so purchasing a different manufacturer makes little sense. I have used the 4 cycle Makita gas equipment for years commercially and love it. All my hand tools are Makita 18V LXT. I am offering all electric yard service now upon request . I recently purchased the 18V x 2 Power-Head as all my attachments that I have purchased over the years for the gas version fit. I also purchased Makita 21" Commercial mower...Its a aluminum deck commercial quality mower that can handle the rigors of being trailered. Its a niche mower for folks that mow weekly, have money and are either enviromentlly and/or noise level sensative. The Makita products are expensive compared to "some" platforms. My point is this. If you have Milwaukee, Ryobi or DeWalt cordless tools you may consider staying on that platform. All my batteries fit all Makita 18V tools. I do not need different battery size or chargers. I have the 14" Makita XCU03 Chainsaw and the build quaility is superior to the 2 saws you showed. For a homeowner the Ryobi/Hart/KoBalt platform is going to do everything you need to do and do it at a cheaper price. The Greenworks products are actually close to the Makita and Milwaukee prices. So its really about platform and professional or non professional use.
Hi Gerald. Thanks for the insight. Makita is definitely good quality equipment and they also offer a ton of tools in that 18v line. I’ve considered jumping to them many times, but can’t break the Dewalt marriage up for all the batteries I have. That Makita saw was definitely in a class if it’s own. I later purchased greenworks brushless version with the 16” bar and it was on par with the Makita performance. The only reason I went with the additional greenworks was because I was already invested in that line and had the batteries. Thanks for stopping in.
Yeah, the Makita won’t disappoint you. I purchased the greenworks 40v brushless not too long after I made this video and it cuts comparably to the Makita and also has a 16”bar. Thanks for watching and commenting.
The 36v and 40v are in fact both 36v nominal. They are generally charged to a maximum of between 40 and 42v. Calling them 40v or 42v is the manufacturer trying to gain a perceived advantage in the customers thinking. The real difference is in the quality of the cells and the capacity AH (amp hours) which will be inflated if they use 40v in the equation Similarly a 20v battery is the same as those commonly rated as 18v
Yeah, it's battery chemistry of the cells. I believe the 18V is from NiMH batteries and the 20V is Lithium. Probably neither 18 or 20 exact. Most folks thing the higher the number it must be better. That's the case with AH. Although the voltage gives them more umph. Thaks for watching and commenting.
@@JeromeBeeFarm no. All 18V-20V batteries are lithium. Lithium cells are 3.6V nominal and such batteries have 5 of them in series. When you depict a lithium cell as a 4V one instead of 3.6V, you get the 20V marketing wanketeering. 18V and 20V batteries _are_ exactly the same, as described by Wayne.
The Makita 36v tools cannot run with one battery. Too many people seem to think that they run in parallel with each other, but they don't. And the runtime is not accumulative either. If you were to put a 2.0 ah and a 5.0 ah battery on them, you only get 2.0 ah of runtime. The good thing about the 36v tools is that you don't need to have a different battery system to use them. Also, the Makita did not dissappoint me in this video. :)
If you already have greenworks 40v batteries, Get the greenworks 40V brushless 16" tool only, It's awesome. I have it as well. It cuts pretty much the same as the Makita in this video. Here's a link to that video on the 16" greenworks brushless: th-cam.com/video/3UkpYYvTdw0/w-d-xo.html
@@JeromeBeeFarm thanks. I almost ordered but I see 2 types with different chain brakes. One is honeycomb, the other has a slot. Close in price and feature too. Have sent inquiry about difference.
They never answered so I ordered the honeycomb, the other has a shipping delay. From the pictures the only mechanical difference was one as an electric chain brake and the other an inertial brake. No idea which is better
Good comparision. The Green Works & Kobalt 80 W, 18 inch Cordless chainsaws look like good products to further look into. Many say that the 16 inch Millwaukee Electric cordless Chainsaw is overall the best, the lithium batteries are said to have the best longevity.
Hey Kaido. Yeah, lithium batteries are pretty much the standard now. I haven't seen the Milwaukee or the Kobalt, I'll check them out. Greenworks makes a brushless 40v that's more comparable to the Makita I demonstrated. I wish I had spent a little extra and gotten that model. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Good comparison and an interesting video, well done. I had no doubt the Makita would be best, they give you something for all that money. I have a 11 amp electric cable cheapo chainsaw, but it still cuts better than these. Nevertheless, the convenience of a good battery powered chainsaw would be nice. One important point about these saws; I think there's a temptation, and I'd be guilty of this, to slacken up on the safety wear because, after all, it's only battery powered. Wrong, it's still a chainsaw, take your proper precautions!
Pressure on the saw and movements can create bias on one saw versus another. Many testers put a weight on each saw which matches to keep even pressure and they do not rock the saw because your variations on doing that can affect the cut speed. They let only the weight put pressure down while cutting. You can also change chains and make saws perform much better. I am only using carbide chains now which cut much better and almost never need sharpening and cut like new for a long time.
Rotating the cut angle is common practice and is to keep it running in the sweet spot of rpm to maximize cutting speed. That’s how you make large cuts and is the reason saws have the bucking spikes as a fulcrum which to rotate. Holding the saws stationary would not change the results.
My Husky was down and I used my 36v Makita to harvest and process a cord of wood. Pushed its limits but it did it without a gripe. Got it with 4 4ah batts and a dual charger for $250 on amazon... stole it.
That is a good deal. It's a nice saw. I have a greenworks 40v brushless and it's very similar to the Makita. I wouldn't be surprised if the internals were the same electronics/motor as it looks very similar with the lights/buttons, etc.
The chain on the Dewalt is designed for smoother cuts because it was for construction cutting 4 by 4 post and 6 by 6 post you want a smoother cut, the Makita is in a different class put it up against the Dewalt flexvolt and the Milwaukee fuel even though the Milwaukee is 18v it uses a huge motor powered by a 12amp battery you can use smaller batteries but it cuts slower and tends to heat them up quickly
My Greenworks 40 volt sounds much more powerful than the one used in your demo. Think yours was a low battery or old chain as mine cuts at blazing speed! Love mine👍
You probably have the brushless one that's a little different than this one. I have that one too, and it cuts about like the Makita. Thanks for watching.
There are more things to compare than just how fast they cut. The DeWalt, for example, has a top handle, making the unit more suitable for carrying into a tree. The others lack this feature.
@@JeromeBeeFarm, a saw with the handle containing the throttle or power switch located above (rather than behind) the body of the saw is referred to as a "top-handle chainsaw." The DeWalt is one such saw. Your others are not. A top-handled chainsaw may be more maneuverable when performing tree service aloft than conventionally configured saws.
I think the larger Dewalts are 40 or 60 volt. Check out DIYferent channel. He cut down some large trees with one of those. It's probably very comparable to the Makita. You ever watch CB's greenhouse and garden? Awesome hydroponic grower. Thanks for watching and commenting.
😂 It is out of those three. To be fair, these saws aren’t equal and the Makita is in a different class. 36V brushless vs 20V brushless vs 40v brushed. The greenworks 40v brushless works pretty much just as good as this makita.
@@JeromeBeeFarm Right on. Kobalt power tools is basically the same quality as Milwaukee from what I've seen lately and everyone knows Milwaukee is quality tools✌️
Speed isn’t really the decider here for me. I think the safety break or rather the absence of it from the green-works would rule that one out for me. Another thing which would have been good was to find out how many cuts they could make on a full charge relative to one another
Check out the Greenworks 16" brushless. It's very comparable to the Makita. Also, that Dewalt quit on me with very little use. I complained to them that it basically failed on the shelf. I took it apart and the control board is bad. They offered their assistance of their repair service. lol I saved the bar and chain and switches and trashed the rest. Piece of garbage. I bought me a Milwaukee Hatchet to replace it. (12V 6" brushless)
-- Thumbs up. Looking at a DeWalt. Have the batts,etc, and they seem middle upper of the field. That and all my previous DeWalt tools have lasted well for years. Are they the best? Don't know. Can you go wrong with them, not often I think.
The Dewalt is a nice little saw. Just don’t plan on cutting firewood with it. It’s good for small jobs cleaning up limbs. Starts every time. lol. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Yeah, a little out classed, but it was fun to see how it came out. Check out the greenworks 40v brushless. It's on par with the makita: th-cam.com/video/3UkpYYvTdw0/w-d-xo.html
To be fair that makita is priced similar to the 60v Dewalt. The 18v makita would have been better to compare although it’s not really made for heavy use. Either way can’t go wrong with makita!
Correct me if I am wrong but Makita chainsaws are badged Dolmar chainsaws, Dolmar is on par with husqe and sthil, that's probably why it's on a different level aswell.
The chains that come new with the saw are not as good for cutting as a full chisel style chain you match it up with at a shop. Battery will last longer too.
The Makita is nice. I also have a 40v greenworks 16" brushless that's very similary to the Makita. The Dewalt was my goto handy saw to do something quick, but it died last week. I troubleshot it to the control board, which you can only get with the motor and associated switches connected to it and it costs about the same just to buy a new saw. I'm really disappointed in that dewalt saw, it didn't have hardly any cut time on it. Was still on the original chain without being sharpened yet.
I opened up my Troybilt chainsaw attachment for my weedeater yesterday. It cut great until it didn't. It wouldn't oil. I had to manually oil the chain to keep working.
This greenworks is a smaller and probably cheaper model which is why it lacks a chain stop. I am sure other larger models in their 40v line cut much faster and have better features. I have one of their 40v push mowers. On the whole, I never have bought dewalt tools as they are cheaper and are not as well designed in a very large tool market over many types of tools not just chain saws. They are not designed with a real professional contractor in mind. I mainly use Milwaukee and their 16in chainsaw is light years beyond these while still running on an 18v platform with a 12ah battery.
These three saws are all different classes of saw. The greenworks has a brushed motor, but is very inexpensive. The Dewalt is brushless. Dewalt XR tools are top notch. I have an array of them, as well as Milwaukee. Both are very good quality and I wouldn’t rank one above the other. I also have the greenworks 16” brushless and it performs about the same as the makita.
GREAT COMPARISON. TOO BAD YOU DON'T HAVE A DEWALT 60 VOLT FLEXVOLT BATTERY TO USE IN THE 20 VOLT SAW. THREE CHOICES IN THAT BATTERY: 6.0 AH 9.0 AH AND THE 12.0 AH. THE SAW WILL TAKE THE 60 VOLT 9.0 AH BATTERY FOR SURE AS SEEN ON ANOTHER VIDEO.
I've had my Dewalt tools a long time and I'm about due a couple new batteries. I think my 3AHs are getting close to ten years old and have been used a bunch. I have that other 5AH. I noticed one got weak pretty quick when using the circular saw the other day. I'll check out those flex volt batteries. Thanks for watching and commenting.
I got the greenworks 16” brushless after this and the controls are identical and it performs similar to the makita. I bet it’s the same electronics and motor.
Not for nothing, but the size, style and sharpness of each blade should be considered here. Mikita whooped ‘em on time, probly thanks to neighbor who knows how to properly sharpen a chainsaw blade. cheers!
@@JeromeBeeFarm thanks so much! I think the Makita is for me even tho I have the dewalt flexvolt compound miter saw with a couple of the 20 amp batteries laying around.
I like the Dewalt for quick little jobs. Greenworks makes a brushless 40v that performs like the makita. If you have some serious wood to cut get a good gas saw. I recommend a narrow kerf husqvarna as a non commercial really good saw. Commercial grade is Stihl.
@@TheToolnut you are half right. It is a chain, but each link in the chain has a blade. The part of the knife that cuts is called "the blade" , so the part of the chain saw that cuts is also called the blade. It's ok if they dont call it a blade where you come from. Where I'm from, it's called a blade. You can call it whatever you like. Except Shirley. It doesn't like to be called Shirley.
professional tree guys like Makita as well as stihl or husky for handling. Makita is also more rugged than most. Durability is what ranks with me much more than speed.
There are a lot of other factors besides voltage to consider. Different types of chains and motors factor in as well. The dewalt 20V ouperformed the greenworks 40V because of the motor type. For me, it comes down to the value and performance and feel of the saw when it cuts.
For me personally, I don’t care if the have matching stats. They didn’t match in price either. What I want to know is if it’s worth the extra money to go with a better quality, more expensive model vs cheaper one. The makita answered that question.
Test them again with sharp blades he hee Many of times, cause there new or new blades don't mean there sharp That greenworks should cut better than that WOW Makita win hands down See its a sharper chain blade hummm I wander if these blades will inter change with one another ? hell yea its hot and humid> Setting inside watch you work LMAO > idk what happen to our cold front> i think the heat burned it out
That rat poison i been using > scratch off 2 armadillos and 3 moles, So far> It takes about a week b4 it kills them> I want count the armadillo i caught in a trap
Send me one, and I'll try it out. lol The GS110 is professional grade. There's another brushless Greenworks 40v that costs less and is far better than the greenworks in this video. Probably on par with the makita.
I sell this 18V (20V) dewalt and buy makita DUC254. I have too many tools from dewalt but this little 18V makita destroy this dewalt. makita is faster, smaller, lighter, NO OIL LEAK, one hand best balancing. But carrefoul, I was used adaptor from dewalt battery to this makita tool and one battery after fast discharged on this makita was destroyed (sound and smell :( ) Adaptors havent safety temperature and voltage pins (bypass on adaptors) and in high consumption (more than 30 Amperes..) can be dangerous... I buy two batteryes only for this makita tool. DUC254 is so cool compared to this smallest dewalt chainsaw ... (second "no yellow" tool is milwaukee multitool, dewalt is not bad but milwaukee multitool is beast..) Everything else from dewalt are great ...
Why did you handle the first two saws so poorly? I was thinking "this guy never ran a saw in his life" the first two saws, then all the sudden you know how to run a saw on the third?
Lol what?? The Makita was just faster. Question I have, were all the chains fresh new ones? All batteries fully charged? You’d think a 40v would spin up faster as volts = speed but it sounded slow. Maybe some gearing but should have some good torque then. I’m going to get the Makita 36v to add to my growing Makita collection.
Dude, that’s how fast they cut. Simple as that. Not “shilling” for any one of them. I’ve cut hundreds of ricks of wood in my lifetime and know my way around a saw. None of these three would I consider using to ‘cut firewood’. and the Makita was hands down the best of the three. The greenworks 40V brushless (not tested here) I would say performs on par with the Makita.
It would be interesting to know the power (wattage) of each chainsaw, if you can fnd it either in the manual or on a specification plate, as that may be a better guide than voltage - after all, in Europe we use 230v as our standard utility voltage, but it makes no difference to the power we use in our household appliances or to how fast they work. It does make our power cords lighter though, as they only need to carry half the current! We also use 3 phase AC instead of two (which gives much smoother power on those devices that use all phases), run them at 50Hz instead of 60Hz, and our phase to phase, at 380v, is a higher voltage as well as smoother. Very few domestic installations have more than a single phase though - the supplier evens the load out by using each phase in rotation along a street. The higher volatage and lower current (resistive losses affect current more than voltage, although you'll see it as a voltage sag if you are too far from the distribution point) means we don't need to be as close to the distribution transformer too, so there are far fewer of them, although each serves more consumers.
Yes, I agree. It's odd that battery saws never list wattage. Voltage means next to nothing, except the saw can have a lighter (small wires) motor for the same power output. Corded saws always lists power, either in terms of HP or wattage. It's easy to find the wattage or HP of gas saws. Granted, you can't compare a brushed corded with brushless battery because brushless motors are so much more efficient. I've heard as much as 20% more efficient. The battery used by the saw can tell you a lot about the wattage or power of the saw. Look up what's in the battery pack. The maximum that a modern high drain 18650 cell will continuously tolerate is somewhere between 15 and 20 amps, perhaps 25?. Assuming 20 continuous amps @ 3.6V that’s only about 70 watts per cell. 20 cells = 1400 watts and 30 cells = 2100 watts. I think most manufacturers only allow drains of about 17 amps per cell for safety. So a saw using 15 batteries drawing 17 amps per cell can only output about 1000 watts. One with 20 batteries could output about 1200 watts, 30 batteries could output a constant output of 1800 watts. The LXT Makita has 10 cells per battery pack for a total of 20 cells or about 1200-1400 watts. Some bigger heavy battery saws use 20700 cells that output 100 watts/cell, not 70. 15 - 20700's can output 1500 watts. But at some point the battery saws become too heavy and too expensive if you put more and more batteries (for more power) in them.
@@geraldmoore6257 Did you mean 18650s for the most common Li-Ion packs? 16500 does technically exist, but I've never seen one or heard of their use - and the current you describe is fairly typical of high drain 18650s (although a few are rated and test to yield 25A continuous, it's at the price of capacity). I don't believe it would be physically or chemically possible to produce a useful capacity from a 16500 at that continuous discharge rate. But of course all these are theoretical inputs to the motor, and don't take account of the voltage sag which always occurs as soon as any cell is under load. The best, currently, are 21700s by Samsung or Molicell, with true 30-35A ratings and either a bit more or less than 4AH per cell (capacity versus discharge rate is a trade-off - you can't have both without increasing size).
@@phillee2814 18650 - thanks that was a typo. I've not heard of 16500. If an 18650 could output 25A continuous one could make a saw with 25 x 3.7 x 20 = 1,850 watts or almost 2 ½ horsepower. That would be like two Makita lxt batteries. Thanks for the feed back. If one assumes that a saw maker is trying to extract maximum power from the batteries (which might be false), then the power output of the saw is proportional to the sum of the wattage output of the individual cells (amps x volts) they have chosen to power the saw. It has little to do with voltage or amp-hours or amps individually. You seem to understand these things, while the average consumer might not. The battery saw makers should be giving HP or watts, but they don't for some reason and this makes it hard for the consumer to compare.
@@geraldmoore6257 Well, even the few 18650s that can manage 25A continuous discharge have their life (in charge/discharge cycles, rather than capacity) heavily reduced if you do it every time, so I doubt if the manufacturers of power tools are using them that heavily. Good sense means they probably don't draw more than around 10A per cell, as anything more would generate heat from the internal resistance of the cells and reduce capacity quite early in life - and of course, heat represents wasted energy. Li-Ion cells hate three things - temperature extremes (including self-generated heat), overvoltage and undervoltage, and even storing them fully charged reduces their lifespan - around 3.4-3.6v per cell is recommended for storage. Go above 4.25v or below 2.5v and it's recycle time. Yeah, I'm a self-confessed geek, and follow developments in power storage fairly closely :-) I'm not an electrical engineer myself, but correspond regularly with one in the US who is a consulting licensed electrical engineer specialising in storage, with clients including the DOD, Army, several power networks and automotive users, other branches or agencies of the US and other governments, and audio-visual equipment makers. I don't believe there is anyone better qualified in the field than he is.
@@phillee2814 Thank you Phil Lee! I’m sort of a geek too. Thanks to you I think I understand these tools more. I think Lithium batteries are absolutely amazing. I’m a retired chemist and when I heard chemists received the Nobel for Lithium ion chemistry I was elated. So deserving that honor. I have several dual battery Makitas. Chainsaw, weed eater, blower, rip saw and they all perform similar or better than equivalent corded units that use 1000 watts or more. The leaf blower out performs corded as does the chainsaw, it seems. I suspect a lot of it is Makita motor technology. The efficiency gains from outer rotor magnets, brushless and direct drive give the appearance of a much higher wattage tool. The Makita chainsaw performs like a 1200 to 1500 watt brushed corded unit. I finally heard a Makita representative say that they extract up to 1000 watts using their X2 platform. So you are right, 1000 divided by 20 x 3.7 gives 13.5 Amps per cell. But because of the highly efficient motor it seems to perform considerably above corded units of the same wattage. Here is the video where I heard a Makita rep claim one kilowatt: th-cam.com/video/o1-vexPmFeI/w-d-xo.html Starting at 17 minutes they talk about their new X2 chainsaws. They claim 25% faster than any top handle (32 cc ?) tree trimming saw on the market. They then demo a new saw. Very impressive cutting speed.
Yeah, they have another one that’s brushless and it performs comparable to the Makita. I’m wanting to get it. There’s a greenworks pole saw that’s awesome 👍👍. Thanks for watching and commenting.
I have seen a Makita 36v in action myself it looked very impressive then but is it a more powerful machine so will the batteries last but a spare set would soon fix that I think I need a Makita Thanks for the demo it has helped me a lot
@@michaelllewellyn7215 I would recommend looking at the greenworks 40v brushless. (not in this video) Check out videos on it. It performs close to the makita from what I've seen and you can get a bunch more greenworks tools and use the same batteries. I don't think makita has a line of yard type tools. I have the greenworks pole saw, weed eater that will take attachments - like an edger, and I also have the tiller. They also have blowers and multiple types of weed eaters. Thanks for the comments.
Is there some reason chainsaw-folk, doing comparisons, can't be scientific? I've seen several such videos, and in each they comment about chain differences -- *why not use the same chain*? It's called a 'control' -- a "variable" that *doesn't vary*. Here I'm seeing a bunch of saws, "compared," but with differing batteries/voltages, bar lengths, chains, they're all different colors even. I think comparing apples and oranges is totally legitimate, they're both fruit. Here the saws have some pretty major differences, they're *different*, *majorly*, enough the results will be skewed. And sometimes guy cut at the log faster than others, personal timing screws up any science anyway. What am I really supposed to get out of this? I saw each cut. I saw Makita do it the best. I have no idea if that's over the engine, chain, bar length, or what. Why not explain to us *why* Makita's saw is so much faster, better motor, better chain, better everything? But yes, I saw you play with 3 very-different chainsaws. And got no answers about which to shop for, other than maybe these 3 specific models vs each other. If one had a different chain, or battery, or whatever, might totally shift the results. And why is it always *cutting*? How about how fast the motor wears out, or if the thing leaks oil like crazy? At least this video noted a few safety differences. Consider your audience, who watches this, hillbillys with desires to "chainsaw race" with no concept of scientific measurement of those results? Or someone with some trees in the yard, wanting to buy a *good* medium-use lightweight chainsaw that's durable, reliable, and won't chop limbs off unless trying for that? Anywho, excellent chainsaw-race video. Use saws with the same chain, bar length, etc, next time. Make several videos showing each trait being different/what that does to the saw. Do whatever. Chainsaw race...
It's a product review. What they put on their product is what gets tested. It's a TH-cam video for crying out loud, not Underwriter's Laboratory. If you care that much, make your own video.
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dude the Makita SUNK through that log like a lightsaber through warm butter, GAWTDAYUM.
I have the 14" version of that Makita chainsaw. I just finished cutting up 40' gumbo tree in my backyard with it. It works great when the chain is kept sharp.
It's a nice one for sure. I got the greenworks brushless version today. I might do a comparison to the makita if my neighbor will loan it to me again. lol
I used my makita to cut a 50' oak tree with 14inch branches down to 2 inch and I'm here to tell y'all this makita saw is hands down the best battery saw on the market
Chris Garcia I agree. My neighbor bought a new gas Stihl chain saw but his wife keeps borrowing my battery powered Makita because it’s easier to use and works great.
@@cgpimp1 you used only one saw but you’re here to tell us that one is the best one?
Pretty good vid. It's really about "Platform". I am a Makita guy, so purchasing a different manufacturer makes little sense. I have used the 4 cycle Makita gas equipment for years commercially and love it. All my hand tools are Makita 18V LXT. I am offering all electric yard service now upon request . I recently purchased the 18V x 2 Power-Head as all my attachments that I have purchased over the years for the gas version fit. I also purchased Makita 21" Commercial mower...Its a aluminum deck commercial quality mower that can handle the rigors of being trailered. Its a niche mower for folks that mow weekly, have money and are either enviromentlly and/or noise level sensative. The Makita products are expensive compared to "some" platforms. My point is this. If you have Milwaukee, Ryobi or DeWalt cordless tools you may consider staying on that platform. All my batteries fit all Makita 18V tools. I do not need different battery size or chargers. I have the 14" Makita XCU03 Chainsaw and the build quaility is superior to the 2 saws you showed. For a homeowner the Ryobi/Hart/KoBalt platform is going to do everything you need to do and do it at a cheaper price. The Greenworks products are actually close to the Makita and Milwaukee prices. So its really about platform and professional or non professional use.
Hi Gerald. Thanks for the insight. Makita is definitely good quality equipment and they also offer a ton of tools in that 18v line. I’ve considered jumping to them many times, but can’t break the Dewalt marriage up for all the batteries I have. That Makita saw was definitely in a class if it’s own. I later purchased greenworks brushless version with the 16” bar and it was on par with the Makita performance. The only reason I went with the additional greenworks was because I was already invested in that line and had the batteries. Thanks for stopping in.
I bought a Makita a few days ago and yt recommended this vid. That chainsaw cut that log like butter.
Yeah, the Makita won’t disappoint you. I purchased the greenworks 40v brushless not too long after I made this video and it cuts comparably to the Makita and also has a 16”bar. Thanks for watching and commenting.
The 36v and 40v are in fact both 36v nominal.
They are generally charged to a maximum of between 40 and 42v.
Calling them 40v or 42v is the manufacturer trying to gain a perceived advantage in the customers thinking.
The real difference is in the quality of the cells and the capacity AH (amp hours) which will be inflated if they use 40v in the equation
Similarly a 20v battery is the same as those commonly rated as 18v
Yeah, it's battery chemistry of the cells. I believe the 18V is from NiMH batteries and the 20V is Lithium. Probably neither 18 or 20 exact. Most folks thing the higher the number it must be better. That's the case with AH. Although the voltage gives them more umph. Thaks for watching and commenting.
@@JeromeBeeFarm no. All 18V-20V batteries are lithium. Lithium cells are 3.6V nominal and such batteries have 5 of them in series. When you depict a lithium cell as a 4V one instead of 3.6V, you get the 20V marketing wanketeering.
18V and 20V batteries _are_ exactly the same, as described by Wayne.
The Makita 36v tools cannot run with one battery. Too many people seem to think that they run in parallel with each other, but they don't. And the runtime is not accumulative either. If you were to put a 2.0 ah and a 5.0 ah battery on them, you only get 2.0 ah of runtime. The good thing about the 36v tools is that you don't need to have a different battery system to use them.
Also, the Makita did not dissappoint me in this video. :)
Appreciate the video. I have 20v Dewalt and 40v greenworks tools and shopping for a chainsaw now
If you already have greenworks 40v batteries, Get the greenworks 40V brushless 16" tool only, It's awesome. I have it as well. It cuts pretty much the same as the Makita in this video. Here's a link to that video on the 16" greenworks brushless: th-cam.com/video/3UkpYYvTdw0/w-d-xo.html
@@JeromeBeeFarm thanks. I almost ordered but I see 2 types with different chain brakes. One is honeycomb, the other has a slot. Close in price and feature too. Have sent inquiry about difference.
Mine is the honeycomb one. I picked up a second one on sale and gave one to my dad, he loves it.
They never answered so I ordered the honeycomb, the other has a shipping delay. From the pictures the only mechanical difference was one as an electric chain brake and the other an inertial brake. No idea which is better
Thank you
Good comparision.
The Green Works & Kobalt 80 W, 18 inch
Cordless chainsaws look like good products to further look into.
Many say that the 16 inch Millwaukee Electric cordless Chainsaw is overall the best, the lithium batteries are said to have the best longevity.
Hey Kaido. Yeah, lithium batteries are pretty much the standard now. I haven't seen the Milwaukee or the Kobalt, I'll check them out. Greenworks makes a brushless 40v that's more comparable to the Makita I demonstrated. I wish I had spent a little extra and gotten that model. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@JeromeBeeFarm milwakee is 3x the money+
Good comparison and an interesting video, well done. I had no doubt the Makita would be best, they give you something for all that money. I have a 11 amp electric cable cheapo chainsaw, but it still cuts better than these. Nevertheless, the convenience of a good battery powered chainsaw would be nice. One important point about these saws; I think there's a temptation, and I'd be guilty of this, to slacken up on the safety wear because, after all, it's only battery powered. Wrong, it's still a chainsaw, take your proper precautions!
Thanks for sharing
Thanks for stopping in.
Pressure on the saw and movements can create bias on one saw versus another. Many testers put a weight on each saw which matches to keep even pressure and they do not rock the saw because your variations on doing that can affect the cut speed. They let only the weight put pressure down while cutting. You can also change chains and make saws perform much better. I am only using carbide chains now which cut much better and almost never need sharpening and cut like new for a long time.
Rotating the cut angle is common practice and is to keep it running in the sweet spot of rpm to maximize cutting speed. That’s how you make large cuts and is the reason saws have the bucking spikes as a fulcrum which to rotate. Holding the saws stationary would not change the results.
no one has ever done a Makita vs Ego chainsaw, that would be a great video too. thanks
If like to try the Lynxx from Harbor freight too.
Do they have built in self sharpener? That's what's important! Oregon has best because of built in sharpener.
Thumbs up, commenting and watching to make sure my sub sticks.
Thanks Willow way. Have a nice week.
@@JeromeBeeFarm Your welcome and you to!!
My Husky was down and I used my 36v Makita to harvest and process a cord of wood. Pushed its limits but it did it without a gripe. Got it with 4 4ah batts and a dual charger for $250 on amazon... stole it.
That is a good deal. It's a nice saw. I have a greenworks 40v brushless and it's very similar to the Makita. I wouldn't be surprised if the internals were the same electronics/motor as it looks very similar with the lights/buttons, etc.
The chain on the Dewalt is designed for smoother cuts because it was for construction cutting 4 by 4 post and 6 by 6 post you want a smoother cut, the Makita is in a different class put it up against the Dewalt flexvolt and the Milwaukee fuel even though the Milwaukee is 18v it uses a huge motor powered by a 12amp battery you can use smaller batteries but it cuts slower and tends to heat them up quickly
Agreed. It's a top handle one vs rear handle. There's a Makita top handle too that would be a more accurate comparison.
My Greenworks 40 volt sounds much more powerful than the one used in your demo. Think yours was a low battery or old chain as mine cuts at blazing speed! Love mine👍
You probably have the brushless one that's a little different than this one. I have that one too, and it cuts about like the Makita. Thanks for watching.
There are more things to compare than just how fast they cut. The DeWalt, for example, has a top handle, making the unit more suitable for carrying into a tree. The others lack this feature.
I'm not sure what you are referring to. They all have top and side handles and trigger handle, just like any normal chainsaw.
@@JeromeBeeFarm, a saw with the handle containing the throttle or power switch located above (rather than behind) the body of the saw is referred to as a "top-handle chainsaw." The DeWalt is one such saw. Your others are not. A top-handled chainsaw may be more maneuverable when performing tree service aloft than conventionally configured saws.
wow that makita destroyed the others Id be interested in the Dewalt 16" version against that same Makita
I think the larger Dewalts are 40 or 60 volt. Check out DIYferent channel. He cut down some large trees with one of those. It's probably very comparable to the Makita. You ever watch CB's greenhouse and garden? Awesome hydroponic grower. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Makita WiN 💪😉👉👍
Makita is the GOD of battery operated tools😎
😂 It is out of those three. To be fair, these saws aren’t equal and the Makita is in a different class. 36V brushless vs 20V brushless vs 40v brushed. The greenworks 40v brushless works pretty much just as good as this makita.
I used my 40v Kobalt chainsaw to build a cabin. They are a quality brand also.
Thanks Matt. I'll check them out.
@@JeromeBeeFarm Right on. Kobalt power tools is basically the same quality as Milwaukee from what I've seen lately and everyone knows Milwaukee is quality tools✌️
Speed isn’t really the decider here for me. I think the safety break or rather the absence of it from the green-works would rule that one out for me. Another thing which would have been good was to find out how many cuts they could make on a full charge relative to one another
Check out the Greenworks 16" brushless. It's very comparable to the Makita. Also, that Dewalt quit on me with very little use. I complained to them that it basically failed on the shelf. I took it apart and the control board is bad. They offered their assistance of their repair service. lol I saved the bar and chain and switches and trashed the rest. Piece of garbage. I bought me a Milwaukee Hatchet to replace it. (12V 6" brushless)
Do you think you could do a cold weather test to see if the battery will fail?
I've used the Greenworks and Dewalt many times in cold weather and they work fine.
I wanna know if they will fail if it's below freezing
-- Thumbs up. Looking at a DeWalt. Have the batts,etc, and they seem middle upper of the field. That and all my previous DeWalt tools have lasted well for years. Are they the best? Don't know. Can you go wrong with them, not often I think.
The Dewalt is a nice little saw. Just don’t plan on cutting firewood with it. It’s good for small jobs cleaning up limbs. Starts every time. lol. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@JeromeBeeFarm -- Ha! Starts every time. Yeah I have a Stihl for the big stuff. Just basically pruning with this one.
@@MarkJacksonGaming yeah. I have a couple of Husqvarnas that earn their keep for sure.
Makita just shreds the competition
Yeah, a little out classed, but it was fun to see how it came out. Check out the greenworks 40v brushless. It's on par with the makita: th-cam.com/video/3UkpYYvTdw0/w-d-xo.html
To be fair that makita is priced similar to the 60v Dewalt. The 18v makita would have been better to compare although it’s not really made for heavy use. Either way can’t go wrong with makita!
Correct me if I am wrong but Makita chainsaws are badged Dolmar chainsaws, Dolmar is on par with husqe and sthil, that's probably why it's on a different level aswell.
Fair comparison would be with the dwalt 56v
Good job!
Thanks!
My question is, did all the saws start off with brand new saw chains or were they used?
The Greenworks and Dewalt were new saws w/new factory chains and fully charged. Makita chain wasn't new.
Thank you.
Are all of the chains brand new? Seems like the Dewalt's was blunt.
The Dewalt and Greenworks were new and had fully charged batteries. The Makita was my neighbor's and I don't know how much cutting it had on it.
@@JeromeBeeFarm I enjoyed your video. Thanks Jerome!
The chains that come new with the saw are not as good for cutting as a full chisel style chain you match it up with at a shop. Battery will last longer too.
Спасибо,хороший обзор
You're welcome.
Should have checked the chain types but I have makita
The Makita is nice. I also have a 40v greenworks 16" brushless that's very similary to the Makita. The Dewalt was my goto handy saw to do something quick, but it died last week. I troubleshot it to the control board, which you can only get with the motor and associated switches connected to it and it costs about the same just to buy a new saw. I'm really disappointed in that dewalt saw, it didn't have hardly any cut time on it. Was still on the original chain without being sharpened yet.
So why wouldn't you use the dewalt 40v or 60v?
Because I didn't have one. I already had Dewalt 20V tools and batteries, so I got the 20V saw.
@@JeromeBeeFarm OK, would be a big difference with the 60v dewalt, blazing fast compared to the 20v.
I opened up my Troybilt chainsaw attachment for my weedeater yesterday. It cut great until it didn't. It wouldn't oil. I had to manually oil the chain to keep working.
It’s probably a gravity feed. Take the cap off and give it mouth to saw resuscitation. Works on two stroke motors with clogged jets too. 👍👍💪💪🐔🐔
@@JeromeBeeFarm Could be clogged I guess but it's brand new out of the box. First time I've used it.
Man, that sucks. Toro usually makes good quality stuff.
This greenworks is a smaller and probably cheaper model which is why it lacks a chain stop. I am sure other larger models in their 40v line cut much faster and have better features. I have one of their 40v push mowers. On the whole, I never have bought dewalt tools as they are cheaper and are not as well designed in a very large tool market over many types of tools not just chain saws. They are not designed with a real professional contractor in mind. I mainly use Milwaukee and their 16in chainsaw is light years beyond these while still running on an 18v platform with a 12ah battery.
These three saws are all different classes of saw. The greenworks has a brushed motor, but is very inexpensive. The Dewalt is brushless. Dewalt XR tools are top notch. I have an array of them, as well as Milwaukee. Both are very good quality and I wouldn’t rank one above the other. I also have the greenworks 16” brushless and it performs about the same as the makita.
Dewalt was more aggressive. I could tell by the sound and the chattering.
Makita also own dolmar now them chainsaws are awesome
GREAT COMPARISON. TOO BAD YOU DON'T HAVE A DEWALT 60 VOLT FLEXVOLT BATTERY TO USE IN THE 20 VOLT SAW. THREE CHOICES IN THAT BATTERY: 6.0 AH 9.0 AH AND THE 12.0 AH. THE SAW WILL TAKE THE 60 VOLT 9.0 AH BATTERY FOR SURE AS SEEN ON ANOTHER VIDEO.
I've had my Dewalt tools a long time and I'm about due a couple new batteries. I think my 3AHs are getting close to ten years old and have been used a bunch. I have that other 5AH. I noticed one got weak pretty quick when using the circular saw the other day. I'll check out those flex volt batteries. Thanks for watching and commenting.
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Those cuts weren't simultaneous, that would have been pretty awesome to pull off if they were.
Maybe if I was an octopus I could pull it off. LOL Thanks for watching.
I'll stick with my MS180 for light work. That Makita is very close though....
I got the greenworks 16” brushless after this and the controls are identical and it performs similar to the makita. I bet it’s the same electronics and motor.
should have used the 60 volt flexvolt dewalt
Why not compare the small makita ?
Because I didn’t have one.
Not for nothing, but the size, style and sharpness of each blade should be considered here. Mikita whooped ‘em on time, probly thanks to neighbor who knows how to properly sharpen a chainsaw blade. cheers!
All were new out of the box except the makita.
@@JeromeBeeFarm thanks so much! I think the Makita is for me even tho I have the dewalt flexvolt compound miter saw with a couple of the 20 amp batteries laying around.
I like the Dewalt for quick little jobs. Greenworks makes a brushless 40v that performs like the makita. If you have some serious wood to cut get a good gas saw. I recommend a narrow kerf husqvarna as a non commercial really good saw. Commercial grade is Stihl.
It's a saw chain not a blade, 🙄
@@TheToolnut you are half right. It is a chain, but each link in the chain has a blade. The part of the knife that cuts is called "the blade" , so the part of the chain saw that cuts is also called the blade. It's ok if they dont call it a blade where you come from. Where I'm from, it's called a blade. You can call it whatever you like. Except Shirley. It doesn't like to be called Shirley.
sad no Milwaukee :-(
Send me one 😂
Now you see why Mexicans wears a Sombero There made to protect the head neck and shoulders with shade / Smart > i think i need one mowing
My hats a little sombrero. lol.
I like that hat, but straw the way to go, lots cooler and lighter
So it’s the Makita? How did feel in the hand, comfortable? Weight?
Makita felt good. I liked it.
professional tree guys like Makita as well as stihl or husky for handling. Makita is also more rugged than most. Durability is what ranks with me much more than speed.
Can this really be an equal comparison when all the voltages are different?
There are a lot of other factors besides voltage to consider. Different types of chains and motors factor in as well. The dewalt 20V ouperformed the greenworks 40V because of the motor type. For me, it comes down to the value and performance and feel of the saw when it cuts.
For me personally, I don’t care if the have matching stats. They didn’t match in price either. What I want to know is if it’s worth the extra money to go with a better quality, more expensive model vs cheaper one. The makita answered that question.
My Makita reciprocal saw is quicker than the Greenworks & Dewalt ....
Hmm. Might have to try that out. 🤔
Test them again with sharp blades he hee Many of times, cause there new or new blades don't mean there sharp That greenworks should cut better than that WOW Makita win hands down See its a sharper chain blade hummm I wander if these blades will inter change with one another ? hell yea its hot and humid> Setting inside watch you work LMAO > idk what happen to our cold front> i think the heat burned it out
They were brand new. Should have been laser sharpened.
Your rite! They should be! but some times there not
That rat poison i been using > scratch off 2 armadillos and 3 moles, So far> It takes about a week b4 it kills them> I want count the armadillo i caught in a trap
Chain, not blade.
Makita top handle vs. Dewalt top handle vs. Greenworks GS110 tophandle. $20 says the GS110 wins....
Send me one, and I'll try it out. lol The GS110 is professional grade. There's another brushless Greenworks 40v that costs less and is far better than the greenworks in this video. Probably on par with the makita.
this comparison should start with you sharpening the chain on each saw..
They are new out of the box except the makita, it wasn’t my saw.
Wouldn't want one if they gave it to me. Built in obsolescence when they quit making the batteries. Junk as far as I'm concerned.
Makita best 1
I sell this 18V (20V) dewalt and buy makita DUC254. I have too many tools from dewalt but this little 18V makita destroy this dewalt. makita is faster, smaller, lighter, NO OIL LEAK, one hand best balancing. But carrefoul, I was used adaptor from dewalt battery to this makita tool and one battery after fast discharged on this makita was destroyed (sound and smell :( ) Adaptors havent safety temperature and voltage pins (bypass on adaptors) and in high consumption (more than 30 Amperes..) can be dangerous... I buy two batteryes only for this makita tool. DUC254 is so cool compared to this smallest dewalt chainsaw ... (second "no yellow" tool is milwaukee multitool, dewalt is not bad but milwaukee multitool is beast..) Everything else from dewalt are great ...
The Makita is 36V and brushless.
That same neighbour could have lent you a pair of hands so you can time the suckers properly.
Why did you handle the first two saws so poorly? I was thinking "this guy never ran a saw in his life" the first two saws, then all the sudden you know how to run a saw on the third?
Really?? 😂
Lol what?? The Makita was just faster. Question I have, were all the chains fresh new ones? All batteries fully charged? You’d think a 40v would spin up faster as volts = speed but it sounded slow. Maybe some gearing but should have some good torque then.
I’m going to get the Makita 36v to add to my growing Makita collection.
Don 124 I have a Greenworks Pro 60v with 2ah battery and it cuts better than this demo by far. He is shilling for Mikita.
Dude, that’s how fast they cut. Simple as that. Not “shilling” for any one of them. I’ve cut hundreds of ricks of wood in my lifetime and know my way around a saw. None of these three would I consider using to ‘cut firewood’. and the Makita was hands down the best of the three. The greenworks 40V brushless (not tested here) I would say performs on par with the Makita.
@@d1o2n4 That greenworks 40V wasn't a brushless motor. I later got the greenworks digipro 40V brushless version and it's very similar to the Makita.
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Do it again with husqvarna and also a corded saw
It would be interesting to know the power (wattage) of each chainsaw, if you can fnd it either in the manual or on a specification plate, as that may be a better guide than voltage - after all, in Europe we use 230v as our standard utility voltage, but it makes no difference to the power we use in our household appliances or to how fast they work. It does make our power cords lighter though, as they only need to carry half the current!
We also use 3 phase AC instead of two (which gives much smoother power on those devices that use all phases), run them at 50Hz instead of 60Hz, and our phase to phase, at 380v, is a higher voltage as well as smoother.
Very few domestic installations have more than a single phase though - the supplier evens the load out by using each phase in rotation along a street. The higher volatage and lower current (resistive losses affect current more than voltage, although you'll see it as a voltage sag if you are too far from the distribution point) means we don't need to be as close to the distribution transformer too, so there are far fewer of them, although each serves more consumers.
Yes, I agree. It's odd that battery saws never list wattage. Voltage means next to nothing, except the saw can have a lighter (small wires) motor for the same power output. Corded saws always lists power, either in terms of HP or wattage. It's easy to find the wattage or HP of gas saws. Granted, you can't compare a brushed corded with brushless battery because brushless motors are so much more efficient. I've heard as much as 20% more efficient.
The battery used by the saw can tell you a lot about the wattage or power of the saw. Look up what's in the battery pack. The maximum that a modern high drain 18650 cell will continuously tolerate is somewhere between 15 and 20 amps, perhaps 25?. Assuming 20 continuous amps @ 3.6V that’s only about 70 watts per cell. 20 cells = 1400 watts and 30 cells = 2100 watts. I think most manufacturers only allow drains of about 17 amps per cell for safety. So a saw using 15 batteries drawing 17 amps per cell can only output about 1000 watts. One with 20 batteries could output about 1200 watts, 30 batteries could output a constant output of 1800 watts. The LXT Makita has 10 cells per battery pack for a total of 20 cells or about 1200-1400 watts.
Some bigger heavy battery saws use 20700 cells that output 100 watts/cell, not 70. 15 - 20700's can output 1500 watts. But at some point the battery saws become too heavy and too expensive if you put more and more batteries (for more power) in them.
@@geraldmoore6257 Did you mean 18650s for the most common Li-Ion packs?
16500 does technically exist, but I've never seen one or heard of their use - and the current you describe is fairly typical of high drain 18650s (although a few are rated and test to yield 25A continuous, it's at the price of capacity). I don't believe it would be physically or chemically possible to produce a useful capacity from a 16500 at that continuous discharge rate.
But of course all these are theoretical inputs to the motor, and don't take account of the voltage sag which always occurs as soon as any cell is under load.
The best, currently, are 21700s by Samsung or Molicell, with true 30-35A ratings and either a bit more or less than 4AH per cell (capacity versus discharge rate is a trade-off - you can't have both without increasing size).
@@phillee2814 18650 - thanks that was a typo. I've not heard of 16500. If an 18650 could output 25A continuous one could make a saw with 25 x 3.7 x 20 = 1,850 watts or almost 2 ½ horsepower. That would be like two Makita lxt batteries. Thanks for the feed back.
If one assumes that a saw maker is trying to extract maximum power from the batteries (which might be false), then the power output of the saw is proportional to the sum of the wattage output of the individual cells (amps x volts) they have chosen to power the saw. It has little to do with voltage or amp-hours or amps individually. You seem to understand these things, while the average consumer might not. The battery saw makers should be giving HP or watts, but they don't for some reason and this makes it hard for the consumer to compare.
@@geraldmoore6257 Well, even the few 18650s that can manage 25A continuous discharge have their life (in charge/discharge cycles, rather than capacity) heavily reduced if you do it every time, so I doubt if the manufacturers of power tools are using them that heavily.
Good sense means they probably don't draw more than around 10A per cell, as anything more would generate heat from the internal resistance of the cells and reduce capacity quite early in life - and of course, heat represents wasted energy. Li-Ion cells hate three things - temperature extremes (including self-generated heat), overvoltage and undervoltage, and even storing them fully charged reduces their lifespan - around 3.4-3.6v per cell is recommended for storage. Go above 4.25v or below 2.5v and it's recycle time.
Yeah, I'm a self-confessed geek, and follow developments in power storage fairly closely :-) I'm not an electrical engineer myself, but correspond regularly with one in the US who is a consulting licensed electrical engineer specialising in storage, with clients including the DOD, Army, several power networks and automotive users, other branches or agencies of the US and other governments, and audio-visual equipment makers. I don't believe there is anyone better qualified in the field than he is.
@@phillee2814 Thank you Phil Lee! I’m sort of a geek too. Thanks to you I think I understand these tools more. I think Lithium batteries are absolutely amazing. I’m a retired chemist and when I heard chemists received the Nobel for Lithium ion chemistry I was elated. So deserving that honor.
I have several dual battery Makitas. Chainsaw, weed eater, blower, rip saw and they all perform similar or better than equivalent corded units that use 1000 watts or more. The leaf blower out performs corded as does the chainsaw, it seems. I suspect a lot of it is Makita motor technology. The efficiency gains from outer rotor magnets, brushless and direct drive give the appearance of a much higher wattage tool. The Makita chainsaw performs like a 1200 to 1500 watt brushed corded unit.
I finally heard a Makita representative say that they extract up to 1000 watts using their X2 platform. So you are right, 1000 divided by 20 x 3.7 gives 13.5 Amps per cell. But because of the highly efficient motor it seems to perform considerably above corded units of the same wattage.
Here is the video where I heard a Makita rep claim one kilowatt: th-cam.com/video/o1-vexPmFeI/w-d-xo.html
Starting at 17 minutes they talk about their new X2 chainsaws. They claim 25% faster than any top handle (32 cc ?) tree trimming saw on the market. They then demo a new saw. Very impressive cutting speed.
U cut too close
U obviously haven't ran a chainsaw much.
That Greenworx seemed weak for a 40 volt tool.
Yeah, they have another one that’s brushless and it performs comparable to the Makita. I’m wanting to get it. There’s a greenworks pole saw that’s awesome 👍👍. Thanks for watching and commenting.
was the saw new or was the chain and battery used as it did seem a bit tired in some way as it seemed to bog down
Michael Llewellyn the greenworks and Dewalt saws were new with new chains and fully charged batteries.
I have seen a Makita 36v in action myself it looked very impressive then but is it a more powerful machine so will the batteries last but a spare set would soon fix that I think I need a Makita Thanks for the demo it has helped me a lot
@@michaelllewellyn7215 I would recommend looking at the greenworks 40v brushless. (not in this video) Check out videos on it. It performs close to the makita from what I've seen and you can get a bunch more greenworks tools and use the same batteries. I don't think makita has a line of yard type tools. I have the greenworks pole saw, weed eater that will take attachments - like an edger, and I also have the tiller. They also have blowers and multiple types of weed eaters. Thanks for the comments.
Is there some reason chainsaw-folk, doing comparisons, can't be scientific? I've seen several such videos, and in each they comment about chain differences -- *why not use the same chain*? It's called a 'control' -- a "variable" that *doesn't vary*. Here I'm seeing a bunch of saws, "compared," but with differing batteries/voltages, bar lengths, chains, they're all different colors even. I think comparing apples and oranges is totally legitimate, they're both fruit. Here the saws have some pretty major differences, they're *different*, *majorly*, enough the results will be skewed. And sometimes guy cut at the log faster than others, personal timing screws up any science anyway. What am I really supposed to get out of this? I saw each cut. I saw Makita do it the best. I have no idea if that's over the engine, chain, bar length, or what. Why not explain to us *why* Makita's saw is so much faster, better motor, better chain, better everything? But yes, I saw you play with 3 very-different chainsaws. And got no answers about which to shop for, other than maybe these 3 specific models vs each other. If one had a different chain, or battery, or whatever, might totally shift the results. And why is it always *cutting*? How about how fast the motor wears out, or if the thing leaks oil like crazy? At least this video noted a few safety differences. Consider your audience, who watches this, hillbillys with desires to "chainsaw race" with no concept of scientific measurement of those results? Or someone with some trees in the yard, wanting to buy a *good* medium-use lightweight chainsaw that's durable, reliable, and won't chop limbs off unless trying for that? Anywho, excellent chainsaw-race video. Use saws with the same chain, bar length, etc, next time. Make several videos showing each trait being different/what that does to the saw. Do whatever. Chainsaw race...
It's a product review. What they put on their product is what gets tested. It's a TH-cam video for crying out loud, not Underwriter's Laboratory. If you care that much, make your own video.
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Makita is better because it's JAPANESE made with Japanese technology......
The only thing Japanese about Makita is the name, they are made in China dude.