CARAVAN UPDATE, IT'S ALL OVER FOR NOW.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 พ.ค. 2022
- Caravan update, its all over for now, a few weeks ago we did a update saying April had been slow and was this the end to the caravanning boom that we have seen over the last few years due to covid and the end of the uk staycation and uk holidays.
with people now able to fly abroad, many people have been predicting a massive crash in the caravan market.
So are they correct.
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price of fuel,price of campsites,price of vans etc its just too expensive-we used to caravan when the kids were little but too expensive now.
Bang on, caravaning and camping used to be great cheap holiday. The site owners now are charging like wounded rhinos, that said England is still much more cost effective than Scotland the site owners up here think the bit of grass is made of gold the way they charge, not just the pitch cost it's all the others xtras £10 for awnings £3 night for a dog up to £8 a night per child more if it's an extra adult.
@@andrewhood5539 couldn't agree more. It's a terrible situation all round. The costs are crippling. Greedy site owners are cutting their own throats. They'll get no sympathy from me.
@@nigelmurray2532 Still many people thing that caravaning and camping is done by poor people who dont have money for hotels and apartments lol
Mark, the one thing I keep coming back to you is that you come across as trustworthy and are open and honest about the industry. Keep up the good work.
Sold my 2021 Bailey Merida black edition. Price of fuel for towing, caravan site prices, insurance, breakdown insurance, caravan service every year, The hassle on the road from other drivers,
Plus to many doing it now and sites full up no pitches. Storage where I put my caravan gone up £80 for the year on top of what I was paying.
Just to much to put up with.
The problem is people want a cheap holiday
We want a holiday not a mortgage
Love your videos and your honesty on the market. Also Kudos for holding your hands up to a moment of poor service but recognising the issue and dealing with it. So many in customer service do not act on valuable feedback and it will inevitably cost them in the long run. Keep up the good work 🙂
Mate don’t worry, you do a great job, you will never please every one
No its impossible. Thanks 👍
You just can't please some people no matter what, you do a great service to us all and we love your honesty.
Onwards and upwards and forget the doom and groomers..
Great video again mark! Love the honesty and transparency. You’re a lot closer to us than I thought. So I’m going to pop down and see you
£15,000 for a caravan, I don’t think so. Silly prices then site fees, plus hook up, awnings etc. In the end cheaper to book in to a hotel or premier inn.
I agree with NPJohn100....if i were in the market for another caravan...i`d be coming to see you.
Great Video,s Mark love the honesty keep up the good work
Worth while waiting. Thanks for the update
Love your complete honesty on your business, the market and people's feedback, keep making these excellent vlogs...
Love your videos Mark,very honest and informative.
You are definitely an enthusiast,unlike many dealership salespeople I’ve dealt with,many of which would be just as miserable selling washing machines.😂😂
Carry on as you are, nothing wrong with what you are doing. Look forward to your videos.
Thanks 👍
Great channel, I too really enjoy your informative videos.
Wish you every success in your plans to expand. Great videos. Love looking round the caravans you have in stock.
Tha ks John as soon as we get new stock in we will do more tours around them.
Forget the keyboard warriors. The reason i keep watching. Is youre honesty
Keep up the good work. Great honest vlogs. Don’t worry about what others think especially dealers, they are just jealous because you market and promote your caravans on TH-cam. Keep it up!
Hiya... 'The Camp Caravanners' here I wouldn't worry Mark... lets face it, whatever we put on line is open for criticism... sad but true... you always come across so well and offer amazing advice and help... keep it going... cheers Paolo and Roger x
Brilliant video
Keep going as you are
Caravan holiday still cheaper then going abroad
Caravan or motor home
Brilliant investment
As always Mark love your videos always great content. We've gone mental as well I think it was just a blip. Take care 👍
Love your honesty and watch all your videos mark, as it's been said you can't please all the people all the time, i would definitely buy a van from you 👍👍
Started to watch your channel when I was looking for a van. Now that I have one I still watch to keep informed. Love your videos. I’ll worry about prices when I want sell mine (not for a while). Keep up good informative work.
Thanks Puggy.
All the best there. I do like your videos and oponions. As you say you seem to have filled up on 2 axle bigger vans. Our Renault Scenic needs a smaller van less than 1100kg and these are scarce.
Love the videos.
We're not in the market to buy as here are minimal nu bers of vans with a low mtplm (lightweight car) & we are not in position to buy a new car either. We are OAPs & now making do & keeping an eye on holidaying costs.
Thanks for being honest
I love your you tube vids and advice just as they are, at least you honest mark and you tell people how it is!
Thanks Chris 👍
Awesome video keep them coming bud 👍👍👍
Love the honesty. Well done. Enjoyable videos. As a buyer, I’m hoping that the prices come down, although I understand that your views are different.
Good video as always. Just ignore those people you give good honest comments. I’ve been caravanning now for 31 years and over those years we’ve had recessions and the industry has always had ups and downs like other industries. But caravanning is still a great holiday way of life for lots of people and always will. I’ve had 7 caravans over the years and just picked up a new Buccaneer and nothing will detere me from caravanning as long as I’m healthy that’s the most important factor just love it.
Don’t listen to keyboard warriors. Keep on doing what you are doing. Most of us appreciate your honesty.
Thanks 👍
Great video mark love how honest you are you tell people how it is 👍
Thanks Dave
like the cut of your jib . I just sold mine to give up caravanning and to be fair I paid brand new £19500 for 2017 sterling eccles 580 and got £16000 back 5 years later . I think that's a good deal .
I see your based near Wolverhampton, if I lived closer I would of applied for a job at you're place !....oh by the way ! the union flag in the office is upside down !... Great video by the way
Our family owned a 2011 Bailey Pegasus Ancona S2 six berth from new and when our four children were small we used the caravan at every opportunity we could. Fast forward to 2020 and when covid hit we hadn’t used the van much for two seasons due to illness and the kids wanting to go abroad. The caravan had a full service history, Isabella Awning, powertouch motor mover and it was described by our dealer as absolutely immaculate inside and out. Every time our dealer would service the van the offer a trade in price of £8-9k and as the van wasn’t costing us anything we declined politely every time. When covid hit, things changed and unsolicited calls with increased offers came quite regularly. One day my sister in law said her friend wanted to buy a 6 berth van but couldn’t get one and asked would be sell ours, so bidding began at £11k and we sold it for £13,000 in March of 2020. Fast forward til today and that van, in much poorer used condition would be sitting on a dealers forecourt for the same kinda money. So yes, I think prices are still crazy! Wishing you continued success with your Chanel.👍
Thanks 👍
You seem far more trustworthy than the caravan people i bought mine from who lied,misinformed and allowed us to drive off with just 28 psi in our tyres along with a list of other discrepancies.i shall look you up one day!Geoff from Southport.
Seeing as I’ve one up for sale, I’m glad it’s not all over. Thanks for the informative video. Even if the caravan prices plateau, they won’t drop. This is the 70’s all over again. Get ur disco boots on 😂🕺
Thanks Darren 👍
your a glass half full man never half empty positive love it we sometimes talk our self's into rescission one thing with the twin axle i think people are struggling to get good towing vehicles for the twins so they are putting them on seasonal pitch's so that's making a lack of seasonal space that's why teres so many twin available that just my opinion
Thanks Roy 👍
I hope you are right Mark. But with inflation at 9% and still rising people will have to be careful with there finances. This will put pressure on all businesses. And remember the last recession was not at a time of such unrest within the world. We as the public will be expected to pick up the bill for all the arms being sent to Ukraine just as we are for covid. This is not a negative against you Mark far from it you come across as a great honest guy.
What a honest guy, I would purchase from Mark just for his honesty! I have started looking at layout to buy our first Caravan so will take a look at your website.
Layout is everything Ed, so many people get it wrong first time and is probably the reason that most first time buyers sell or change.
I would honestly spend as much time as possible researching the internet,peoples reviews etc (Dan Trudgian did a series of videos when he was buying his next caravan, although they aren’t reviews it will give you a good idea of the pros and cons), not sure if you have kids but that makes it even more important to get the right layout, get out and about to caravan sales places and spend plenty of time in caravans, if they know you are serious about buying a caravan they will give you plenty of assistance but don’t let them pressure you into buying something that doesn’t suit you, lastly, make sure you know what equipment the caravan comes with, a lot of sales places will take everything out and make you buy new kit, including the motor mover, as a bare minimum you will usually get the water pump, we have just agreed a sale on the Swift Celeste in this video and it comes with motor mover, water pump, leisure battery and wheel lock - so make a note of what you are getting, it will save you having to spend more money later on.
Most importantly, I would say to enjoy searching for a caravan, it is a brilliant way of getting out and about
Here's the thing. Yes, you are quite correct Mark, people will always buy caravans, but honesty in any industry is valued by everyone. You keep up the honest appraisals and you can't go wrong. People are more inclined to buy from honest traders with integrity. It doesn't matter what other dealers say. Just keep doing what you're doing. It will pay off. No doubt about that.
Some people just cannot get their head around the fact that making a profit is the only way to keep a business going.
When I was a mystery shopper for Ford many years ago, a salesman at a dealership did the "eat the sandwich" to me. He was fired the next day and the Sales and marketing Director of Ford Australia tore strips off the dealer pricipal involved.
Love your honesty mate. I wish we bought our caravan from you instead of a certain dishonest private trader. Best wishes to you and your business.
Still booming down under, in Vic at least. Enjoy your videos 👍
I think your honesty has just won you a lot more custom. my issue at the moment is not finding many affordable caravans :ie under 8k which is still a lot of money!
It is, it's crazy how little choice is available still.
Great video and good for you when the bullies tell you to get in line. As for some of the comments I’ve read, I have an issue. It’s not nice being stereotyped “ doom &gloom” keyboard warriors” , everyone has an opinion and everyone’s contributions should be accepted.
Judging by your thumbnail I was expecting good news re the prices coming down. One disappointed 1st time buyer 🙁
Just watched a 2020 video, brand new Swift Basecamp 2 with plus pack priced 17.5 k including delivery. Priced today at 24k plus delivery. How can Swift justify over a 6k increase in just 2 years? Great channel though even with the clickbait 👍
Seasoned caravanners aren't complaining as the situation helps them sell their current van for more than it was worth 3yrs ago! It's called swings and roundabouts...
The only people moaning are those who have just started and have others putting their two penneth in. It's the same in any industry.... if there's a boom, prices are inflated.
At some point the bubble will burst, people will be able to bargain down prices because the market will flood with vans for sale. But all those waiting for this to happen are missing out of so many adventures.
Fact is, whether you get a bargain or pay a slightly higher price, caravanning is great! the van pays for itself in the memories you create with loved ones.
Thanks to Mark and his team for honest videos and reviews of caravans. Keep up the good work.
Thanks Matthew 👍
Over in Oz, we have just had the 1st interest rate rise in years. Prices have skyrocketed across the board, and wages are stagnant. Oh, and house prices went up 13.5% last year & are forecast to grow 5% this year, that's Brisbane. But life goes on & the caravan parks are still full. I just had my caravan serviced & the mechanics are still busy. I don't think prices are coming down. The rate of growth may slow. Just my opinion.
Keep those videos coming. What people forget is that peoces do go up and down but usually on an upwards trajectory. Unfortunately there will always be people who maybe can't afford the prices for newer vans or might feel even that the price for a used van is way too much but that's more about their perception. Its good news for those who might have looked after their van and are perhaps having to stop caravaning as they'll get more for their van.
Those wanting to change but can't afford a more up to date van, I do feel sorry for them as well but that's just how things are.
People are obviously still finding higher prices affordable otherwise the market wouldn't be as bouyant.
were currently thinking of part extchanging out 2011 bailey unicorn valencia but however the only issue is we cant find anywhere that will give us a reasonable price for it were now debating to part exchange this year or wait till next year
is all I want is a little caravan so I can park it up and be able to go and stay in it every other week , it is my dream to live near the sea 😁
Great advertising while doing an update video showing all the vans off
Hi please don't stop the way you do things we all need Verity and not the same old blurb well done 👍
Thanks 👍
Well done Mark. Glad things are looking up for you mate. See you soon(ish). We were over at Cannock Chase with the van for 4 nights. Just got back. Lovely area. Shout out to White Lodge caravan site at Great Haywood. Stayed there many times over past 12 months. Great CL site, family run.
We stayed at White Lodge last July for a few days, nice site although they didn’t seem bothered about stopping a party that went on till about 3am on the Saturday night
We were there at the time. I remember it. Didn't bother us at all to be honest. It wasn't that raucous.
Not sure if its just me but I got the impression that some people seemed to take pleasure at the impending price crash in your last video, have I missed the update on the future plans Mark? I know you mentioned it briefly at the start of the new year but don’t remember hearing anything since.
We have purchased the Celeste and I found Mick to be brilliant, no pressure sale and just let us look at our own pace (apologies about our 4 year old daughter though!!!), anyway, look forward to picking it up in early June
Thanks Paul, lovely van u have bought. 👍
Well done for the honesty 👍
Thanks.
Sorry to say your Union Jack is upside down, the thick white diagonal band should be pointing up to the left hand corner.
i certainly think its going to drop soon due to super high prices, but it is the start of the holiday season so always a strong sales time
people said that last year
Prices of second hand caravans will only drop when new prices come down. Which isn’t going to happen. Even if inflation slows (which it won’t) it’s not like all of the manufacturing costs are going to suddenly drop. Sadly it’s just harder for first time buyers.
Well hope me just buying a elddis 868 2022 wasn't a waste of money or was it double axel and 8 foot wide 🤔
Great update Mark. Glad to here your thoughts last time may of just been a blip on the radar.
I for one really appreciate you out and out honesty in making these vlogs. It's refreshing to be honest and when you upload one , I know I'm not going to here a lot of bowlacks! Keep up the good work and if I'm in the area, I will personally turn that union flag the right way up! Ha!
Thanks
Thanks for sharing Mark
I been changing my motorhome storage company, where he told us His business was worrying. He has sent out letters to his clients 1 month ago, and has not had any replies? He wonders if the customers are about to sell their vans or motorhomes?
Does he want to sell his storage business? We would be very interested to buy it.
People will buy caravans to permanently site. But if you were a caravan manufacturer what would you be thinking regarding the cost of tow-capable electric cars? Maybe you look at dealing in motorhomes!
Prices have gone up fuel has gone up , Campsites gone up ? We are in the camping club so we get discount on there sites £45 a year to be a member and I saved £56 on our first 7 nights camping , Its a no brainer , personally I will never stop camping even if I have to push my motorhome , I no it's not what you want but I hope people do start going back abroad as the sites have been to crowded the last couple of years, And they are definitely quieter this year .
Thanks Clark, nice information 👍
Do you think it was a quiet April because people were waiting to see if they got an inflationary payrise? As soon as they got one they were prepared to spend the money?
Another good video, just wondering if I could get some advice. I have been to look at a sprite coastline major 6 2012 and left a a deposit. It has full service history and last serviced in February. I noticed on the damp report that the highest reading was ranging from 16% to 20% on the floor the rest were 13 to 16% is this something to worry about before I go and pick it up and pay the full bill? I only left a little deposit. Also can weather conditions make a difference as it was in February on a wet damp day according to the report. Thanks
Yes the 20% is acceptable due to weather conditions, we would recommend having it rechecked about 3 months later just to make sure. So would be worth just getting it rechecked before collecting to be sure. Hope this helps. Nice van 👍
Same with any product there will always be someone with loads of cash, who just falls in love with a van and just buys it.
Acquaintance had aircraft, someone asked if it was for sale, answer was no. That someone looked at the aircraft and said i give you 250k for it. Deal done the next day.
One thing I do wonder a about is how are the finance costs with the rate rises? Will another interest rate rise hamper you guys shifting vans? I know for a fact if I every do decide I want to change vans you will be my first call but we don’t have finance on this one, that’s why we went used over new.
Hi Marc, thanks, the finance is fixed but has just gone up 1% to 7.9%. I would try to save if possible and only use the finance for a small amount.
It is the same as any commodity mate, things go up, things go down. That the nature of the world!
Great honest video once again Mark 👍 keep them coming mate. Could I ask how you get the yr of the caravan off the side plate? I’ve just bought a new caravan an it’s saying it’s 2018 but the 10th letter is a J so I thought it was 2019 ? Do they miss th me I out an go H J ? Cheers.
Yes miss the i out so G=16 H=17 J=18 K=19.
@@thecaravanplace thanks Mark 👍 great help
Just take good with bad not all bad will pick up
Yes I think we are going to see a bit more ups and downs and moving towards the old normal of how it ised to be.
We are going in to a big recession and everything will come to a stop specialist luxury’s like caravans and cars just hope you can ride it out as the worst is still to come and it might be for a couple of yrs covid has crippled us and now the Ukraine war all the money we are sending over 300 million in tanks and armoured cars some has to pay for it and interest rates gone up and are going you again in a couple of months never mind food petrol and gas and electric going through the roof company’s going bust and making redundants
Your wrong I’m afraid. A recession is just 2 consecutive quarters of GDP rising at a lower rate than previous. And although with what’s going will be devastating for the poor, it will affect fewer rich people. So although a few people that were in a position to make such a large purchase will be taken out of the market, there will still be plenty of others. There may be a dip in the future where some people need to sell a van, whether it’s a privateer with a job loss or a dealer that needs money to meet repayments to service a business debt, but inflation has and will continue to pull the prices up. Top end vans are over £40k. So anything a decade old or younger is gonna be £15k and upwards. All the new vans with a price tag of £35k are gonna nearly touch £40k next year which will increase the price of secondhand vans. The 70’s was bad for many, however if you bought a brand new car for £1,800 it was worth £2,300 in just a few years. History never repeats itself, but it always rhymes.
Yes we haven't even started paying for covid yet let alone the war, and that may get worse still. Thanks for your comments 👍
Thanks for your comments 👍
Love your videos but you could really do with updating your web site with more pictures, not being negative just my thoughts 👍👍
No thats great thanks, we love constructive criticism as it helps us improve, sometimes we can't see the wood for the trees. 👍
Take no notice of the public. They talk as there belly guides them. They want to buy but can’t afford one.
I just love my tiny 2001 Compass 2 berth it’s so compact. Each time we wash 🧽 it with caravan cleaner , people stop and ask if we would seriously sell them our caravan, I jest you not , we say no we are very happy with it tyvm . It tows well and does not use a lot of petrol to tow it. I am very content with it and would not want to trade up. We have a good lock 🔐 on it , and during COVID I shield in it at my daughters . As she needs her mother .
Thanks for your comments 👍
Its obvious it will go downhill I don't panic but the situation is what it is😱
Thanks
you got anything within the 10k range?
We ha e just had a few in, Www.thecaravanplace.com
Hi mark how mark how much is that ecclies XL as we have sold how’re house
£29,995. Thanks.
Hi , your union flag in your office is upside down ! (just saying ;)
Your just looking at it upside down lol. We will get it changed 1 day 👍
Car dealers are ripping off the public...everyone does if they get the chance.
When you say it's hard to find people to work for you is that just service technician positions? That's all I saw when I was looking the other day.
We are also looking for a social media and sales assistant too.
@@thecaravanplace Where can I find our more information please?
uk.indeed.com/m/viewjob?jk=1377c9c66ef9c6a7
Just send us an email if interested thecaravanplace@aol.com 👍
Wow I've just been on the website. Are you closing down??? No real stock choice to speak of.
Yes we are nearly sold out again. Still trying to get stock is very difficult too. We are slowly getting more stock back in but its tough finding good stock still. This could push prices up if everyone is having the same problem. Thanks for your comments.
think with the housing bubble about to pop you'll be indated
If a family can have a 2 week abroad for £1500 they won't invest in £20K+ and still need to pay out to use the vehicles?
Plenty do
Any Nov update
Hi Ray, we will have a weekly update on Sunday morning, and a price update went out on Monday just gone.
Where are you located?
Hi Nick. Www.thecaravanplace.com
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Make hay while the sun shines
If only we could get the stock, we need things to balance out really now.
There so much feast or famine in the trade at the minute it seems, keep up the honest vlogs mate, I know where I’ll be heading when I’m in the market for upgrading my old Bailey pageant 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I have a 2017 Sprite Major 4 EB for sale if your interested
Send info to thecaravanplace@aol.com including your pistcode to check we are able to travel to you. Thanks.
Deserve to fail when sellers, campsites, fuel get too greedy to make money. When they fleece, they fail.
yes it is as we are forced into electric crap cars sell out while you can as itll only get worse mate
society will be gone by Christmas i wouldn't restock if i was you .
You don’t have an idea what is coming guys., the great reset is on us. Imagine that 2 years no food in shop to buy. This is what we will have? Very very soon….
I’d of bought one off you but thanks Mr covid messed it up for me 😕🤦♂️🤦♂️🥹