I really wish you would talk about what you don’t like about each boat. Many of us don’t have the experience to know what can be a downfall until it’s potentially too late. It allows the viewer to see the negatives with each boat and then we can decide which positives and which negative matter or don’t matter to us. Good video though.
That's a tough one as we try not to bash any brand. All three boats are 'good' boats. If I had to pick my biggest grievances for each brand...it would be the following: ATX-very poor rough water ride and felt the 'cheapest' out of all three. Albeit the boat performed above my expectations in terms of watersports. Moomba-Bimini has very poor coverage as I burn easy, and cumbersome to use. Also, not a fan of Moomba/Indmar throttle in comparison to PCM/Supreme. Moomba's surf wave was least desirable in stock form out for all three, but had best wakeboard wake stock form. Supreme-wish radio was not in the screen on the boat we tested. The volume scroll bar isn't very user friendly while surfing. Albeit, they fixed this for 2024+
I get that you had a Kaiyen, but the 2023 Craz would have been a true comparison. It definitely helped with selling the supreme for you though. But the Craz is the comparable boat and would have been the nicest with a much better surf wave of all 3. I get it though.
I thought there seemed to be some favoritism toward Supreme. I looked up Upstate Marine, and the only brand of the 3 they sell is Supreme. Good advertisement for Supreme, but seems a little too subjective. I did like the video and presentation for the record.
Thanks for watching! Our goal was to be as unbiased as possible. Albeit, Supremes are what we're used to operating on a daily basis so it's difficult to remove all bias completely. Hope you enjoyed our best efforts, and feel free to ask any follow up questions.
You could add Sanger and some MB’s in this price range. Sanger build quality, QC, f&f, fiberglass, and gel beat all the budget brands and compare to the top 2. They just don’t add bells and whistles and don’t make updates often, but that adds to the build quality as they get to master a model.
lol the fact that you can get a moomba max at literally half of the cost of a supreme. This is a absolutely no brainer for me. Look at that wake comparison at the end, Moomba wake looks amazing. These supreme s220 now cost 150k ish, at this price point you might as well get a malibu or mastercraft. Supreme needs to understand its still a entry level product.. and they try to price it higher..
Appreciate the reply. Albeit, I'll assist is some accurate feedback. Naturally, how you option a boat can swing the price drastically, but a well equipped S220 is well under $150k like you stated. In fact, a new S240 is less than $150k retail. Yes, the Moomba make a good wakeboard wake. Actually, all three made a good wakeboard wake for majority of consumers. A new Moomba and new Supreme, similar equipped are very comparable in price. We try to be unbiased, but naturally, we prefer the whole package that Supreme offers over the comparables. Enjoy!
i have a 2022 Tige Z3, what bimini top would you recommend? do you have a link? i cant seem to find the one you mentioned on the supreme boat. thank you
That’s a Moomba Kaiyen at 21’6” and the other boats are over 22’, not apples to apples at all. Also, you didn’t go into the Moomba screen, but said it’s not as intricate, please explain?
I looked at all 3 of these boats since they are all at similar price points. I went with 2021 Kaiyen (this was in 2021) and the screen has a lot of options he skipped. But frankly it should be simple to use and the Kaiyen is. The seats are awesome quality. We surf it and the wave is outstanding with only 1-2 adults in boat and NO extra lead weight. Kaiyen is a great boat.
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I really wish you would talk about what you don’t like about each boat. Many of us don’t have the experience to know what can be a downfall until it’s potentially too late. It allows the viewer to see the negatives with each boat and then we can decide which positives and which negative matter or don’t matter to us. Good video though.
The boat industry just can’t say bad things online about any boat. They reserve that for the dealers! Just ask them. They only sell the best brands…
That's a tough one as we try not to bash any brand. All three boats are 'good' boats. If I had to pick my biggest grievances for each brand...it would be the following: ATX-very poor rough water ride and felt the 'cheapest' out of all three. Albeit the boat performed above my expectations in terms of watersports. Moomba-Bimini has very poor coverage as I burn easy, and cumbersome to use. Also, not a fan of Moomba/Indmar throttle in comparison to PCM/Supreme. Moomba's surf wave was least desirable in stock form out for all three, but had best wakeboard wake stock form. Supreme-wish radio was not in the screen on the boat we tested. The volume scroll bar isn't very user friendly while surfing. Albeit, they fixed this for 2024+
I get that you had a Kaiyen, but the 2023 Craz would have been a true comparison. It definitely helped with selling the supreme for you though. But the Craz is the comparable boat and would have been the nicest with a much better surf wave of all 3. I get it though.
That wasn’t biased at all lol
lol exactly! u can look up their dealership, they only sell supreme..
Im hearing a lot of rumors surrounding these boats being outlawed due to the size of the wake and the impact on lakes and other recreational boaters.
Rad video!! 😁🤘🏼 I have the S220, the surf wave impresses my every time!! 🤩
Thanks for watching!
Great video guys!
I thought there seemed to be some favoritism toward Supreme. I looked up Upstate Marine, and the only brand of the 3 they sell is Supreme. Good advertisement for Supreme, but seems a little too subjective. I did like the video and presentation for the record.
Thanks for watching! Our goal was to be as unbiased as possible. Albeit, Supremes are what we're used to operating on a daily basis so it's difficult to remove all bias completely. Hope you enjoyed our best efforts, and feel free to ask any follow up questions.
You could add Sanger and some MB’s in this price range. Sanger build quality, QC, f&f, fiberglass, and gel beat all the budget brands and compare to the top 2. They just don’t add bells and whistles and don’t make updates often, but that adds to the build quality as they get to master a model.
Great vid , very knowledgeable!
Big Fan of The Moomba! Thx!
lol the fact that you can get a moomba max at literally half of the cost of a supreme. This is a absolutely no brainer for me. Look at that wake comparison at the end, Moomba wake looks amazing. These supreme s220 now cost 150k ish, at this price point you might as well get a malibu or mastercraft. Supreme needs to understand its still a entry level product.. and they try to price it higher..
Appreciate the reply. Albeit, I'll assist is some accurate feedback. Naturally, how you option a boat can swing the price drastically, but a well equipped S220 is well under $150k like you stated. In fact, a new S240 is less than $150k retail. Yes, the Moomba make a good wakeboard wake. Actually, all three made a good wakeboard wake for majority of consumers. A new Moomba and new Supreme, similar equipped are very comparable in price. We try to be unbiased, but naturally, we prefer the whole package that Supreme offers over the comparables. Enjoy!
i have a 2022 Tige Z3, what bimini top would you recommend? do you have a link? i cant seem to find the one you mentioned on the supreme boat. thank you
That’s a Moomba Kaiyen at 21’6” and the other boats are over 22’, not apples to apples at all.
Also, you didn’t go into the Moomba screen, but said it’s not as intricate, please explain?
I looked at all 3 of these boats since they are all at similar price points. I went with 2021 Kaiyen (this was in 2021) and the screen has a lot of options he skipped. But frankly it should be simple to use and the Kaiyen is. The seats are awesome quality. We surf it and the wave is outstanding with only 1-2 adults in boat and NO extra lead weight. Kaiyen is a great boat.
@@bradmiklosovic7788 agreed we have a 2021 moomba kaiyen and it is insanely good wave conpared to the supream
I really like the Supreme Boat the best..
Moomba should have been the craz @22’ and 4500# ballast standard
The Kaiyen was what we had in stock. It measures 21’5”. We felt it was a close comparison. Yes, Craz would have been ideal, but didn’t have one.
Guy at the end is all I needed to hear #supremes220vstheworld
Love the video! Supreme looks / rides / surfs better than many “premium” brands. Great value!
Thanks for watching!
The ATX is just plain ugly. I think we all can agree on that. The Moomba Craz should have been usd also.
Centurion. You're already wearing the shirt for it lol. Or a Pavati. Ill personally take the Pavati.
Yamaha 255 xd all day