Can Forever Young Upset Fierceness & City of Troy at the Breeders' Cup? | Dark Horse

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  • @factssmashers
    @factssmashers  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Who do you think will win the Breeders' Cup Classic this year-Forever Young, Fierceness, City of Troy, or someone else? Drop your predictions!

    • @BFashion24
      @BFashion24 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      forever young can win this hes a really great horse

    • @factssmashers
      @factssmashers  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Redbutterfly|
      Honestly, I’m getting that same feeling about Forever Young too! He's showing so much potential. I'd love to engage more with passionate fans like you. If you're up for it, consider joining our channel membership so we can dive deeper into these exciting discussions together!

    • @rebeccalarmand9357
      @rebeccalarmand9357 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Give me a horse that can ship & win. FY was my pick for the Derby, his only loss. Fierceness, win/lose, Sierra Leone hasn't done much but duck. It'll be between FY & COT and forget about the dirt debate.

    • @wanderkind7927
      @wanderkind7927 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      FY for held up by Tyler. This time the jockey will know. That was a lesson learned for him.

    • @andrewblackie7170
      @andrewblackie7170 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Honestly I think COT is way overrated friend & although bred for the dirt he's only a 124 rated horse & may add this 3yr old generation of horses doesn't have a standout CLASS horse. Aiden O'brien says City Of Troy is the best he's trained which is some statement from a Training Genius like him who's had such HIGH class horses like ( Galileo, Rock of Gibraltar, Giant's Causeway, Henrythenavigator, Fame & Glory, Duke Of Marmalade, Mastercraftsman, Australia, Camelot, King of Kings not to mention Minding, Magical, Found & Mother Earth & we could go on & no so the best Aiden O'brien says he's had ?? I've mentioned some horses above who were better than City Of Troy BUT we'll see if his reputation will stay intact regarding his best ever.

  • @JasonLaveck
    @JasonLaveck หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    If he gets a better trip than in Kentucky, he is unstoppable, his heart is huge

    • @wanderkind7927
      @wanderkind7927 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@JasonLaveck: Yes, hopefully he’ll get a better trip. Smaller field.

    • @question_it_701
      @question_it_701 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Unstoppable? Virtually no horse was ever unstoppable.

  • @johnsyron6127
    @johnsyron6127 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Played him to win in Ky Derby, and I don't see why I wouldn't do that again. I have great respect for Dornich and Fierceness, and can't wait to see how the Euro City of Troy does on dirt; but I believe Forever Young should have won the Derby, so giving him another chance at old Del Mar .

  • @mati290900
    @mati290900 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    He's virtually an undefeated horse, so why not? We'll see if he'll handle the conditions of Del Mar. Maybe it's a short straight for him, he has to adapt his running style. Forever Young will run in the Japan Dirt Derby at Oi Racecourse next time out!

  • @brianweisgerber12
    @brianweisgerber12 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I like forever young in the breeders cup. It's his time in America

  • @alleyezonme252
    @alleyezonme252 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Forever young safest bet for place … All In 🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @DesitaManzanero
    @DesitaManzanero 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Yes. He Can Win. And is my Favorite He was Cheated in the Kentucky Derby case Sierra Leon, Bumped into him more than once. But U know how it is in America, they don't want outsiders to win😢😢

  • @darrelltalbott4830
    @darrelltalbott4830 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    20/20 hindsight is the reality of life! Forevermore has the ability to make the most of pounces

    • @tonymurray814
      @tonymurray814 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Where’s that running?

  • @morgannaidoo9583
    @morgannaidoo9583 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This a magnificent horse. Although he is facing stiff competition .I hope he has a good run. He will be fighting at the finish

  • @Oneloftracing77
    @Oneloftracing77 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Forever young has been my choice 8/1 is very good value.

    • @factssmashers
      @factssmashers  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oneloftracing !
      Forever Young at 8/1 is definitely solid value-he could really surprise everyone. Would love to see how it plays out! Also, if you’re up for it, I’d love for you to join our channel membership so we can engage even more with dedicated horse racing fans like you! Thanks for your support! 🐎✨

  • @Jose-mh2om
    @Jose-mh2om หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I bet Forever Young at the Kentucky Derby, will bet him again for Breeders' Cup, he can do it!

  • @MrHuPow
    @MrHuPow 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The actual question should be "can they upset" him? He finished comfortably ahead of Fierceness in their only meeting and City of Troy despite his pedigree is unproven on this surface.

  • @anandseethal1333
    @anandseethal1333 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Forever young was cheated breeders cup will be ultimate revenge

    • @andrewblackie7170
      @andrewblackie7170 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I don't understand friend ? What was Forever Young cheated of ? No doubt he is a big danger in the Breeders Cup Classic absolutely after were he came from in the Kentucky Derby he should've won & would've IF he ran closer to the pace but sadly his jockey gave him to much to do.

  • @Imastatman
    @Imastatman หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Absolutely......

    • @factssmashers
      @factssmashers  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'mastatman
      Glad you agree! It’s going to be exciting to see if Forever Young can pull off the upset. Thanks for watching!

  • @kingpro866
    @kingpro866 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Forever young would have won the Kentucky derby if he was not interfere with my Tyler s horse

    • @question_it_701
      @question_it_701 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Apparently the Derby wasn't decided by your vote. lol.

    • @miguelrivera46
      @miguelrivera46 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yes yesthankyou.

  • @esmondrose5294
    @esmondrose5294 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    My number one horse and stamina laden with speed to stay in touch against any horse.Should be the real deal on breeders cup day.Forever Young will be a great challenge to Dornach repelling tenacious ability to last home at 10 furlong distance

    • @question_it_701
      @question_it_701 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Dornoch is retired. So there's that. What other words of brilliance ya got?

  • @alleyezonme252
    @alleyezonme252 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    City of Troy vs Forever Young !!

  • @indychoate8350
    @indychoate8350 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I believe Forever Young carefully and properly cared for, may be the best three year old of all.🌍 Can he win?
    We know he can, it is in his blood! A.P. Indy, Seattle Slew, Secretariat!

    • @factssmashers
      @factssmashers  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Indy Choate
      Absolutely agree! With that incredible bloodline, Forever Young has all the makings of a champion. It’s going to be exciting to see if he can rise to the challenge at the Breeders’ Cup! 🌟 Thanks for sharing your thoughts, and I hope you're right! Also, we'd love to have you as a member of our channel to engage more deeply with passionate horse racing fans like yourself. Your insights are always welcome!

    • @indychoate8350
      @indychoate8350 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@factssmashers Thank you.

    • @skyeagle3123
      @skyeagle3123 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well we don't half to worry about FLIGHTLINE, So count him out what a horse he was and honestly, Am thinking it's between Forever and Troy here.

    • @indychoate8350
      @indychoate8350 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@skyeagle3123 It is going to be the greatest race of the year.

    • @rebeccalarmand9357
      @rebeccalarmand9357 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Sunday Silence, Deep Impact

  • @epic1957
    @epic1957 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    FY is capable of beating them all, I hope he gets a good trip. I do like City of Troy as well…

  • @unitedrealtalk5087
    @unitedrealtalk5087 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If City of Troy takes to dirt track, he will be hard to beat.

  • @DwightJacbs
    @DwightJacbs 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Go go young

  • @indychoate8350
    @indychoate8350 หลายเดือนก่อน

    City of Troy’s bloodline is awesome! Justify on the Sire’s Side and Galileo on the Maternal side; if prop-
    erly cared for, he may be the winner. In any case this is the most anticipated race for me since our be-
    loved California Chrome. 💖💖💖

  • @Makado14
    @Makado14 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think if Forever Young gets a fair race he can win it all.

  • @cmj83-uo5jq
    @cmj83-uo5jq 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'll bet on forever young ❤

  • @andrewblackie7170
    @andrewblackie7170 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think City Of Troy is overrated & what we've seen in his 3yr old campaign & even Aiden O'brien's comment saying he's the best he's trained doesn't change my opinion of his chances. As with Fierceness we've seen he's not Top Class either so don't understand why he's rated the No1 3yr old going into the BCC so I'm going to go with FOREVER YOUNG given the odds of the 3 horses i think he's over priced. I dont know if its just me BUT i don't think this generation of 3yr olds are anything special but just my opinion of course. Good luck everyone whoever you pick.

    • @indychoate8350
      @indychoate8350 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very good. We learn over time.

  • @JoeLawrence-i2x
    @JoeLawrence-i2x 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Best 3yo colt on dirt period his resume is tons above anybody else and I'm talking about all around quality of fields and distance and all over the globe and was tons the best in the ky derby so yeah he will pounce this field whomever shows up

  • @jaimevelasco8922
    @jaimevelasco8922 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Horses will hit the wire in this order:
    1. Forever Young
    2. City of Troy
    3. Fierceness

  • @CarlCarlson-k5p
    @CarlCarlson-k5p หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The problem with fans of all horses is they stick with them always instead of handicaping the race.

  • @richardwaterman7237
    @richardwaterman7237 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Those American horse can't beat Forever young or city of Troy just not good enough these 2 colts are consistent not one off race winners like the others who wins one and does bad in 2 or 3 races.

  • @PaulDevlin-j5m
    @PaulDevlin-j5m 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Forever young will win the breeders cup classic

  • @SueL-c7v
    @SueL-c7v หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where has this colt been since the Kentucky Derby? I believe he was the best horse in the derby and that he was interfered with down the stretch, possibly denying him the win, but what has he done since? Was he injured or sick after the derby? Haven't heard a thing about him all summer.

    • @Repiiv88
      @Repiiv88 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Top 3yo performers from Spring season in Japan usually get a rest during Summer and return to action in the Falls. FY was away from home but can safely be considered one of the top performers of his crop, so he earned a prolonged vacation.

    • @indychoate8350
      @indychoate8350 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And that’s too bad. But I’m sure his trainer will have him at his peak in the Breeder’s Cup.

  • @bengallinaro4968
    @bengallinaro4968 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Take it to the bank

  • @chuckphu7581
    @chuckphu7581 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Forever young is the best in the world , no one can come close to him period. BC is a thing of the past , he got this for fun!!!

  • @JulioDelosSantos-x1j
    @JulioDelosSantos-x1j หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hoy en El dia de hoy apenas mirando este video.hoy es 23 de semtiembre a la hora de Las 9.48.para mi el que gana la carrera es Sierra Leona.vamos a ver una carrera muy dificil suerte Para todos

  • @jeffb5785
    @jeffb5785 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If everyone ignores him, bettors can score a big $$$ win

  • @rafaeljosemijaresortega4458
    @rafaeljosemijaresortega4458 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Este caballo gano la carrera y sierra león debería ser descalificado porque el jinete de sierra león hizo trampa. For Ever Yong es mejor que los que compitieron el Kentucky Este año y el debe ganar el Bride Clásico. Sin trampa,!!! Viva For Ever Yong

  • @charleslobo9696
    @charleslobo9696 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Get him an american or even a european jockey

  • @indychoate8350
    @indychoate8350 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know, my mistake.

  • @ChrisB-vb9hh
    @ChrisB-vb9hh 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    City of Troy is a turf horse! I don’t know about a mile and a quarter on the dirt???

  • @Makado14
    @Makado14 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    KARMA IS BEHIND FOREVER YOUNG.

  • @JackJoy-k6b
    @JackJoy-k6b หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    City of troy is in a different league i he will destroy the field
    He has pure speed but also stamina he will just keep going and going and wont stop no horse in world can get past him and on dirt he will be 10 times faster 10 times better he cant lose the breeders cup classic

    • @rebeccalarmand9357
      @rebeccalarmand9357 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Turn of foot is amazing & Ryan Moore is the Jockey!

    • @JasonLaveck
      @JasonLaveck หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Has he raced on dirt?

    • @javedismael1080
      @javedismael1080 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Keep dreaming!!!😂😂😂

    • @andrewblackie7170
      @andrewblackie7170 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      At the moment City Of Troy is 5/2 for the BCC friend & I can see you rate him a cert. I'm a gambler & you sound like one too so I'll give you 8/1 if you're up for it friend.👍

    • @austinthomas9068
      @austinthomas9068 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fierceness wins with his A game.

  • @lilchi721
    @lilchi721 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Well the problem is he is facing two other Japanese horses in the field

  • @JulioDelosSantos-x1j
    @JulioDelosSantos-x1j หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ganara Sierra Leona desde hoy lo digo

  • @jimcarlton7732
    @jimcarlton7732 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    He needs a prep.

  • @CarlCarlson-k5p
    @CarlCarlson-k5p หลายเดือนก่อน

    U dont bet on horses if u got a if. If fierceness runs his good race. If city ot troy takes to the dirt. If 4everyoung gets better than his 100 buyer in k.d. needs 10 more points figure wise. Except for the travers 111 buyer all our 3yr old were running approximately 100 buyer in all races not fast
    A japan horse almost beat all our 3yr olds then a female almost beat all our 3yr old males. Im not saying this cause im a fan just leaning towards a 4yr old derma sotogake he had numbers to win k.d. at 3yr old. He didnot. Then off 6 month layoff with no preps got 2nd in b.c.classis to white abbario. Dutro. Thats big. Most people like the other 2 japan horses ushba Tesoro a closer and 4ever young cause he was robbed in k.d. but he has to get better and he dont like kickback. Just a thought good luck to all. P.s. im

    • @CarlCarlson-k5p
      @CarlCarlson-k5p หลายเดือนก่อน

      P.s im not betting horses with a if. If... bet a horse than can do it. Also a horse like sierra leone figure wise has gotten better figure wise in every race. That's just a fact. Kind of like example gunrunner and asmusson horse never took a step back. U can't be mad at gunrunner or the trainer if he came 2nd or 3rd or lost if he ran better than u handicapped or bet on. Just ran into better horse that day. Sierra leone fits that. But 4 now leaning 2wards derma. Gd. Luck 2 all.

  • @contrail__
    @contrail__ หลายเดือนก่อน

    FY will win breeders cup classic with 10 lengths

    • @ccahill2322
      @ccahill2322 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @contrail__, Ho, ho, ho. And Santa Claus is a jockey.

    • @question_it_701
      @question_it_701 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No he won''t. How much ya willing to bet me?

    • @miguelrivera46
      @miguelrivera46 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      HewontrunaloanupForntwhavecompany

    • @miguelrivera46
      @miguelrivera46 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Iwould

  • @gideon21
    @gideon21 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ushba Tesoro: madurez + japon

  • @StephenSmall-sf5um
    @StephenSmall-sf5um หลายเดือนก่อน

    They wont get within 5 lenghs of city of troy

  • @user-wm7mp2fl1p
    @user-wm7mp2fl1p หลายเดือนก่อน

    City of Troy is coming to destroy all on Breeders Cup Classic day end of story

  • @rick-ug3rd
    @rick-ug3rd 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    city of troy 9to5. forever young 7to2. fierceness 5to1