Claudia Lawrence, Trapped in a Web of Lies! coldcase11.
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- STILL MISSING. COLD CASES, UNFOUND, MURDER.
This video focuses more on individual questions that have yet to be answered. There are lots of Claudia videos but I think after 15years, it's time to answer to the public, so that this search can soon, be concluded.
The police feared that Claudia was dead and her absence, had become a huge murder investigation. However to this date - 2023, Claudia Lawrence is still, missing.
Peter Lawrence and his close friend and work colleague the late Martin Dales, were the main spokesmen seen fronting the news and press conferences pleading for information as to Claudia’s whereabouts.
Her mother Joan held a low profile whilst constantly working with detectives and searching for her Daughter, Claudia. Having spoke to Joan on a few occasions, it was quite clear she was never giving up on her hopes for finding her daughter, despite the false leads, frustrations and misinformation that she’d had and still endured. Questions remain unanswered.
I’ m hoping that a member of the public, or someone’s conscience helps them to do the right thing and bring forward any information that they think is helpful in anyway.
Claudia is still missing.
researcher@coldcase11 .
Great informative video that doesn’t pull any punches. One thing that stands out to me is that even though Claudia is seen to have a strong circle of friends not one of them were there when she needed them most!.. it’s almost like nobody wanted to get involved!! As for her boss, why wait even until 10.00am to call Claudia when he knows she was walking to work early in the morning. Claudia was punctual, reliable and responsible, she was known for those qualities. Those closest to her decided to ignore those qualities and turn a blind eye. There are a lot of people who will never give up on Claudia no matter what the cost.
Woman that turned out to had relations with lots of local and married men appeared to be unpopular....shocker.
I have a feeling her disappearance is a lot closer to home start investigating people that are close to her.
I think they have tried but are getting 'resistence'.
No s**t sherlock! Of course the investigated those close to her but some people refused to speak. Duh!!!
@samjohns3227 - Please pal try to be a bit more respectful to other people’s comments. The answer to this case could lie in any one of us. A thought, feeling or gut instinct. Let’s encourage and nurture participation not stifle it!.. Having said that reading your lyrics did make me smile and I hope anybody else reading it can see the humorous tone behind it with I trust absolutely no malice 🙏
Yep and several locals implicated, that's the conspiracy.
You raise some really interesting points. Her disappearance haunts me to this day. I hope one day there will be answers and that Claudia gets justice.🙏
thank you Katrina.
I honestly think the cops need to look closer to home here, as someone in that area/pub knows the score here..maybe....someone in power might have been involved..
The more I watch these videos on Claudia the more unsettled I get.. It feels to me like a really well planned and executed abduction with numerous people involved. The vehicles involved but brazenly parked in places where CCTV will pick them up. The Shadowy figures walking in areas with CCTV, almost choreographed. After 15 years and still the silence, not 1 person showing a touch of guilt or empathy!. Too many ‘smoke & mirrors’ that leads you away from the truth.
It's highly likely that one of the married men she was sleeping with, or his wife, got completely furious with her and just lost their temper.
Think several could of been furious with her, not just one woman.
I have always believed her so called friends know much more than they have let on love this video
Thank you 🙏 @user-we7vm9yh3m x
Paul is the key here, he knows what happened, he told police bits they just don’t have enough evidence to charge them, and Paul’s not talking anymore it was just to clear himself, the people he told police about are wealthy, Paul now has a nice big house etc, we all know who did it but it’s not going to come out unless Jen and Peter break up or Paul speaks up
Thanks ben for, affirming my thoughts.
Hi Ben,
If you all know who did it (by all I’m presuming you mean the ‘Nags Head’ massives) then why won’t anything be said unless Peter & Jen split up. I’m also presuming you mean Peter Ruane?..
Jen King seems to be in the thick of this and I feel there is still more names to be pulled out of the bag!
Arrests were made. I believe the police know who it is but not enough evidence to go to court. Certain things are strange - why didn’t her friend go over to her house to see if she was ok. Something strikes me as odd .
Some friend!!!
I think a possibility was that, her spare back door key may have been taken days earlier, when she had her 'mates' partying at hers after the Nags Head Pub. Maybe a smoker kept going to the bk door to smoke, seizing the opportunity, part of a strategic plan.
Imo this was either someone who was jilted by her or just plainly ignored sexually by her in the pub . Or a relationship that went too far and was about to implode his marriage , i can't find any other scenario to justify her disappearance . Creepy weirdo or married man in a trap , thats my view ! . . . .
Thanks for your comment @user-sp7ib3yn2z, let's hope for a revealment.
Very interesting. Just subscribed. It's all very odd. The whole situation!
Great Qs. & points raised. May be a different Force needs to come in and run this cold case. I’ve always believed the case remains unsolved because of incompetence or powerful obstruction. I think she’ll be disposed of in someone’s garden or cellar - not that far away, relatively speaking, somewhere off-bounds to routine honest lines of enquiry. Her mum recently said publicly that she was certain a resolution would come while she is still alive and hinted that she’d received new reliable information.
Maybe on PR's land
It would be very interesting for your thoughts on all the people men and women being found in rivers. Videos of this subject I'm sure would be interesting for people to watch. And also hi light the missing. Thank u
that would be fab x
A select number of her ‘friends’ probably know what happened to Claudia Lawrence and they’ve all taken a ‘vow of silence’.
Im originally from York and i used to frequent the Nags Head pub often in the 80s and 90’. It had a bit of a dodgy reputation then. I dont know what its like now as i left York in 2001. But probably hasn’t changed much.
And its near an estate, Tang Hall, which has a few rough areas and people. I know, i lived there from 1976 to 1988.
the Nags Head is like a horror movie now , scary to even enter . .no woman should go there ,they are narrow minded country dwellers who never saw the lights in the wider world ..
@nonenone1106 it's also within walking distance of a gyppo / traveller site at outgang Lane osbaldwick. Those people also frequent the shops and take aways on tang Hall Lane.
What a great, and calm why of telling Claudia's story, with intelligent inquiry. Just subscribed. All the best
Thank you purplevelvet69
Wouldn''t be surprised if a police officer is involved.
You are not the first to suggest that. However, Roberto, a psychic medium who is also a numerologist suggested that she was killed by someone who worked or was associated with a large medical facility and was an older man with deviant behaviour. I am not saying he is right, but has certainly been correct when discussing other cases where he's been spot on. I realize not all psychics are accurate, but he seems to be.
Considering so much time and energy was spent having Police go to Cyprus when it is pretty obvious the crime happened very close to Claudia's home, seems either someone didn't know what they were doing, or wanted to distract from the correct direction to solve the case. Though the Police may not be actively trying to cover-up what happened, by the same token, they have little to show for a fifteen years investigation.
This case needs to be cracked ...rediculous
Did the police ever check cell tower data to see where the phone was?
Hi @emilymorrton6510, Yes... I think Claudia's phone was active around York Centre, pinged off a radius of about 8miles, i believe
several days after her disappearance the phone was switched off manually @@coldcase11
100% I can guarantee the guy that did it has been arrested but had to be released due to insufficient evidence
the work colleague was only one I noticed in interviews that belittled her.
Incredible work, you ooze intelligence and talent. Please never give up, that includes Claudia ❤
Thank you @CozySophie for your lovely words xx
Hi, i am new to your channel. Can i ask, where do you get your information from? I ask because non of this was mentioned in any documentary about Claudia that i have watched.
The whole case is odd, it is next to impossible to disappear under such circumstances in today's world of cctv, the multi media platforms and electronic devices that we use daily.
Either someone in the police is covering up evidence or someone covered their tracks so well that Claudia will never be found.
Hi @phillipaevans4874, thanks for your input/enquiry. I research information out there already, and journey back and forth to York, to find out more.
@@coldcase11 It is really nice of you to care so much and put your time into looking at the facts and going to York to look at things from a local point of view. In many cases I think that the police know who the guilty party is but have no evidence. In this case it is as though it was messed up from the beginning losing valuable time in the first few days of her going missing and the police not wanting to admit they messed up xxx
It's easy to disappear if you are dead.
@@joshua6244 Not so much, even vacant fields have visitors. Not to mention the wild life digging it up. Or even dog walkers, Fisher men, you name it they come across bodies. When she went missing hundreds of people were searching and looking out for suss behaviour. My guess is that she has either been buried below an existing grave I the grave yard or she is in a freezer somewhere. My prayers include the fact that someone obsess3d with her is holding her somewhere but its unlikely.
@@phillipaevans4874 If the grave is dug deep enough, the body will not be dug up by animals. Even if animals do dig up part of a body, that doesn't mean that someone will see that part, especially if it is in a forest. I was not aware of hundreds of people searching for a body and if the killer drove to somewhere in the moors or wolds and dug a deep grave no one would find her.
I believe she was well setup an killed by her close friends.
But on who's order's and why, assuming the direct family thing who could be next on the list ...
Guess, in the family that's where the answer is.
Hi @jamesfulton8251, Your questions need to be beared in mind. Valued comment, thank you.
Incredible new perspective to this case.
@kelly2180 Thank you .x
I have 3 niggly points on Claudia's case. Firstly, I would expect a best friend to be a bit more concerned that Claudia didn't bother to turn up at the arranged drinks night in the pub. Claudia lived not a stones throw from the pub. Why not walk the short distance to the house and see that she was not ill or had fallen or whatever. The fact you accepted her absence with a pinch of salt doesn't tell me you are a best friend. Secondly, the work colleague who had given Claudia several lifts, whilst her car was at the garage, said that on the morning she is believed to have gone missing, he made the decision not to detour that morning and offer Claudia a lift, but decided to head straight to work? My eyes are not the greatest but I saw a resemblance of build of this colleague/man on the CCTV, captured the night and morning of probable disappearance. These are grey areas which I smell a rat. Some one or some people close to Claudia, IMO, either know more than they have divulged or were part of some love/hate triangle. Thirdly, and not what people may like but you have look at all possibilities. Had Claudia's personal life become an embarrassment or strain on her father, who had for years, hoped she would curb her lifestyle? He may have snapped after continual requests were ignored by his daughter. Not nice to write I know and apologise if anyone offended. All avenues need to be eliminated.
Honestly the father situation did cross my mind, now you have mentioned it too, ...someone close, someone with access to her house/movements, maybe nothing....did the cops ever look into it...
@@jamesfulton8251 have never seen anything mentioned regarding the father, except the understandably concerned father part. You cannot discount anyone as we know nothing of their personal family relationship and troubles etc, if any. People do disappear through choice, but other people do make people disappear too, through untoward means. Sometimes, with all these missing people we hear about year in year out, I wonder if there is some murderous group/sect/club, out there, spread around the country and indulging in some macabre game between themselves, mind boggles.
THANK YOU @WATGAZ518, PEOPLE NEED TO VOICE THEIR THOUGHTS, THANKS FOR YOURS, AS YOU RIGHTLY SUGGEST, 'ALL' FORMS PART OF THE BIGGER PICTURE.
I wondered about her Dad from his reactions and being on the edge of breaking down . Of course he has now passed away so we will never know.
Thanks, 🙏 @@racheldemain1940 watch out for my future video.
Brill tone and in-depth analysis, eps highlighting there's no 12-wk rota at a university canteen UNLESS the University stays open for clubs, societies & organizations to stay there and use the facilities ?
Ocd cleaned, rather than lived in. You're observations on this case are quite thought provoking. Wow unwritten rule no going out with friends exe's. Great content.
Thank you for viewing, @widdershins4778,
You are spot on with Jen and Claudia's Ex Bf. They know everything. Living opposite her, seeing her comings and goings as well. There's a reason their house was searched by police, and a reason the ex was arrested, along with his brother. The police know who did it.
One thing Ive not heard anyone mention, regarding Claudia's last text to Jen, with no X......Jen didn't send a text back did she? Why would that be? You'd think she'd even send something back like "Nightmare". But she didn't. Starting to think it's because she knew it wasn't Claudia at the other end of the phone. Maybe the message from Claudia's phone was code for the deed had been done. Maybe no coincidence it was to Jen.
That does contradict what I think happened though! Which is she did leave for work at normal time, watched by....let's call them "neighbours" and/or the left handed smoker, and she was abducted/murdered on way to work. Her being possibly seen with the left handed smoker, aligned with the CCTV of the left-handed smoker just makes me think it was him who is the main suspect. Evidently though, whoever did it, he had people helping him.
Reference the first question. I highly doubt that the dog's incident happened as the River Derwent isn't on Claudia's walking route. In fact, there is no river near Claudia's walking route....
Hi @jasonstreet2835 thanks for your thoughts…
I highly doubt, that Claudia disappeared on her way to work, most very likely, the night before. The Derwent is also very significant in her case, may I add.
The whole thing was strange.
New subscriber here. You brought up some significant points. Thankyou for the video. Great overview of this mysterious case. I hope her case is solved soon.
Thanks @cleobagtraallsorts3380, for joining our channel...Hope it is not too far away when we see it resolved.
very good point regarding thr CCTV outside the PO , it was much closer than we've seen , it would easily pick up her facial features and give us an idea of her mind trrhought
Thanks for your valued comment @thespursfan7564
I'm so glad I found your channel.
Finally someone talking sense, I believe the answers to Claudia's disappearance lie in the town.
Something is very wrong with the investigation, it should be reopened with an independent force.
Thanks for your comment @earth0128,
Investigations run out of steam. There would be nothing for officers to do.
I believe plenty of people know what happened, but there's Omerta. One day it will come out, if someone is seriously sick and wants to get it off their chest, but I could be totally wrong of course.
Read a few comments on here in relation to Claudia’s private life. Personally, whatever Claudia did in her life was Claudia’s choice and who are we to judge!!.. let’s not distract from the fact that Claudia is missing presumed dead and there is a killer or killers out there walking free. I think the answer to this lies closer to home.
Her private life, has a lot to do with it, I honestly couldn't care if she was on the game millions are and that's no excuse to murder her, but the more facts that come out then the more chance there is of getting a result, I still honestly think the answer is within the family, but as I said I'm no detective.
Dogs don’t lie humans do.
Totally agree @drgunsmith4099… great succinct analysis x
Same as in Madeleine McCann case!
I only heard about the 2 dogs both going to the river the other day. Why the river wasnt searched is probably the reason her body was never found
Thanks for your comment @hellonearth9347 ... True!
It was searched though and drained I believe
Why wasnt she seen going work on the camera that the man was seen going behind the house on
Maybe she went the night before? don't think all C.C.T.V. has been shown. Thanks for your input.
@@coldcase11 I watched a video yesterday by Arrin Stoner and he enhanced CCTV of Claudia and someone following her on the 19th March 2009, he has also done a second video on the case.
Must have watched this video at least 5 times... David Oxer, now there’s a character who leaves little to be desired!..
Amazing. Makes sense.
THANKS FOR YOUR COMMENT @KARENBURTON582.
My opinion is.. the reason not solved is because this will cause further embarrassment for the Police. I believe she was involved with someone high up in the Police, a connection of her dad's.. solicitors, lawyers and police are often 'in bed together' if you see what I mean or she was offed by the guy opposite (we all know his name) but he won't ever be arrested due to a) no evidence b) I believe he was and still is a police informer c) there was drug dealer perhaps the same guy and he supplied to police as well. This is why I think there's a cover up and unless there's a deathbed confession or someone develops a conscience it won't be solved any time soon. The fact that this guy is buying up the whole area and not being challenged anywhere speaks volumes (fear?)
Hi Big,
Thinking exactly on the same lines as you pal.. Reminds me of that Rap song (White Lines)
“A businessman is caught with 24 kilos
He's out on bail and out of jail and that's the way it goes” This was a well planned and extremely well executed abduction and murder. Whoever orchestrated this knew how to stall and derail a Police investigation from the outset. Somebody within the police could manage this and depending on rank with considerable ease. The keeping of Claudia’s phone and turning it off at midday on the Thursday tells me that it’s somebody who Claudia knows Closely and also has a certain amount of authority over her in their eyes at least!.. As for the fear, I believe there is fear in that small circle of accomplices but I believe the greatest fear is in the person or people who killed Claudia. One day they will be exposed for the despicable people they are.
@@bfreeascanbe6541 let's hope so bud. Also, the dad going to the pub is a little fishy to me.. unless he was lonely but who goes to the pub with their dad? My dad would have been horrified to see me pi$$ed up being loud etc. I'm not saying he's involved at all but maybe one of his acquaintences of the same age. Perfect cover to be there with the dad and his daughter.
But still think at the heart of this case is drugs/drug dealing/informant.
JK didn't get her 'businesses' on a barmaid's wage..follow the money. ..
Totally agree pal.. it’s almost like Claudia has been manipulated from the start. From the start I mean from the moment she bought her house on Heworth Road. If she was thinking of buying a house the first people you’d confide in is your parents in Claudia’s case most probably her father due to his legal understandings. I think Claudia would have seen a number of houses but settled on one 3 doors away from the Nags Head amazingly!!.. Did somebody influence her into taking this house to further his, her or their aims!😮. Peter could not be seen with the criminal fraternity but meeting his daughter in a pub and chatting to her “Friends!!” Who were Peters contacts unbeknown to Claudia (at least from the early days) makes a lot of sense. Very organised, very intelligent and completely Ruthless if this is to be the case
Never seen her look truly happy in any of her photographs. Especially the ones which include her best mate.
Couldn't agree more @ada...D, thanks for commenting.
Her dad said she didn't like her photo took an didn't have many as a child as she didn't like it.
Or totally right!.. When the time comes to meet your maker then you need a clear conscience, no amount of fear can ever stop a deathbed confession. ✊
The 'Intrinsic self'. @befreeascanbe6541
Lots of inconsistencies in this case.. a supposed shy quiet girl, yet she liked to party and have friends back to her house... she lived alone in a 180K house in a good area and ran a car yet she was a college chef and can’t have been massively paid, thats without her regular trips abroad and busy social life.. also i know this is over 10 years ago but if she was into hooks up’s and had dalliances with ‘gentlemen’ friends then I’m sure she must be have had some sort of internet presence be it face book or dating sites.. somethings rotten and all her supposed close friends and work colleges seem a very strange bunch indeed... i suspect they know far more then they have told..
Thanks for your comment @user_vh5gepu5d, lots of questions to be answered.
Her parents were rich.
It is possible she dated older, wealthier men just as a preference, or she could have done so professionally. One possibility is some involvement in the drug trade. Either way, she was certainly living beyond her means. I suppose it's even possible she had loans and multiple credit cards, but it seems likely someone was helping her to live such a lifestyle, which could even be her parents.
@@cleoldbagtraallsorts3380 That is why I mentioned that her parents were rich. They helped her to buy her house.
@@cleoldbagtraallsorts3380how on earth can you know this ?? Are you suggesting she was a prostitute ? That is mere unfounded speculation
Best video seen on this case. Questions that need answers the police kept too much back on this and messed up countless times. They know who has done it just takes one of the few that know to grow some balls and own up
much appreciated John.
Totally agree John.. it won’t take much to solve this case! Just a backbone, a strong sense of doing the right thing regardless of the cost or outcome and empathy for Joan and the late Peter.
But police need to prove guilt. It is said that the police think that they already know who did it, but they can't prove it.
My money is on Claudia not being at home when she had chat with her mum, she was either at a boyfriends or friend's, didnt want to be at home because she knew someone was after her.
The missing kiss or x bothered me I know people who always add an X and never forget.
The dogs sniffing down to the river brought back some memories of the woman who was identified in the River but the police said it wasn't her.
I thought it was strange that her friends in Cyprus wouldn't talk when people usually can't wait to open their mouths and put their ten pennuth in.
Above all with a proclivities that she seems to have in her private life maybe she met somebody who had all the wrong connections which would explain why people were told to back off?
Was she saying someone who needed to be shut up on a permanent basis?
Thanks for your input @theuktoday4233. I do hope the truth is revealed one day.
It bothered me too. You are indeed correct, some people do not forget to put kisses, and I can say that with a fair amount of confidence too because I happen to be one of those people .
@@emmaonthefarm1085 You are definitely correct on that score.
Wonder how many female coppers were on this. We know what female friendships are like
Very interesting and more importantly revealing…..subbed and thanks! 😊
Thanks for the sub!
Only now found your channel this is a strange case someone knows how can the person/s even live with there selves
Thanks for your input @usermadeinwales, agreed.
Claudia’s dad was a long time solicitor….could there have been Freemason involvement?
There has been a few saying the same,
plus solicitors, police & friends.
What the fuck are you on about? What has a solicitor to do with Freemasons? What have either to do with the disappearance.
@@craiggerrard5117 Calm down. Can you not express yourself without that language? 🤨 No need at all.
Freemasonry is very big within circles such as Senior Police Officers, Doctors, Surgeons, Solicitors, Judges and the like and has been for many, many years. It can open a lot of doors and close some too.
That's why many things such as court cases can sometimes take a sudden turn - resulting in a puzzling dismissal or light sentencing. I've seen it many times professionally with proof repeatedly committing stuff driving offences 8 or 9+ times in a row, yet never seemingly facing harsh consequences when repeatedly appearing in court. All were masons, as was the judge.
I come from a family with many relatives very high up in freemasonry, although I myself have never been involved.
You would be surprised of the strings that can be pulled and the favours called - right under our noses. Absolutely extraordinary.
Nobody is saying that is directly related to this case. It's possible - we don't know that.
But I'll guarantee you that more than a handful of investigating officers, Senior Police Officers and judges or magistrates within the court system are masons.
The police were interested in a white astra van/estate car that was parked across from her home. It was captured on the bus CCTV that night. They said they never traced the owner. But if you google the nags head pub heworth now and use the arrows for street view, that same van is parked across the road in the same spot as it was that nite. Google maps images was taken 3 years ago, so quite a lot of years after the murder. So the owner must live across the road from Claudia. If you remember wen that man with rucksack was caught on CCTV near Claudias home, there was also a figure in white standing at his door across the road. Wonder was he the owner of the astra van? He also most likely knew Claudia if he lived across the road 🤔
Hi @devil's advocate123, This van could have been at her friends home who lived opposite Claudia, I'm not quite sure yet.
Its just strange the way the police put an appeal out to trace the owner and the owner never came forward. If you lived there (which I'm assuming he does) how was that not obvious to the police? His car surely wud have been parked there throughout the big media presence and sumbody wud have spotted it. Be interesting to see who lives across the street and owns that car and their reasons for not coming forward to admit owning the car.
I believe the Police are actually obstructing this case. They don't want to solve it.
Regarding the back door key, did the friend, jen who lived over the road still have a key to the house.
But i believe Claudia had gone out that evening, if she was at home and there was an altercation at the front door other neighbours would of seen or heard it.
Ether someone sneaked in the house and murdered her or she was somewhere else.
Definitely someone who knew her!! !!!!
They must of taken prints at her home? Thank you for your insights.
This was superb and very interesting. One of the best things ive seen in a while.
Thank you so much...hope it helps.
@@coldcase11 was great 😊
The point you make about the dogs could be explained by Claudia's 'living' scent would have probably be long gone by that time close to water.- however the point about the friend in the pub does raise a question - I mean most blokes don't like sitting in a pub on their own and it would be even more so for a woman- so when she did not turn up why didn't she pop to Claudia's house to say "come on, are you ready we have been waiting X minutes" that would be a normal thing for a woman to do with her mates. The media tried to paint Claudia as a woman of easy virtue and loose morals, but if this was true why was she sweating away in a kitchen at 6 am every day while trying to get her old car repaired and then going home to a lonely existence ? Some married bloke would have surely been looking after her?
There are dozens of posts on here that are 'I think...' kind of statements with no substance to their content whatsoever. Thats how rumours start.
Hi @mrdeaf25, Thanks for your comment.
Yes agreed, it can/does happen...However, the rumours were started by her friends and the culprit/s in the initial stages...which has partly created these statements,(leaving many viewers with their own thoughts and opinions.) But there are also quite a few who have hit the nail on the head.
Hey Beef Chops, I’ve watched a number of videos on Claudia Lawrence, I am just interested in what you found revealing in this video? There is a couple of things in this video that I haven’t seen in any other videos and I’m wondering if they are the same 👍
the missing hair straighteners is also an interesting one and could be nothing but all be it a long time ago in the days of goth and crimped fringes i had g/f's who if they were planning to stay out all night would take then with them to do their hair in the morning so perhaps she didn't stay home and go to bed early as suggested, perhaps she went out after the phone call to her mother to stay over with a 'friend' then was planning to go on to work the next morning... had her bed been slept in, or were there breakfast dishes in her home?
Claudia's bed was made, her father went upstairs and checked on that. The Police now have her backpack, chef's uniform, watch strap, bracelet, hair straighteners, and her phone battery, but not her phone.
Her bed was made, when her father went up to her bedroom to check. I think she was taken from the back of her house down the alley, by a man using her bag to hide her from CCTV. There were two people, a man and a woman in the footage, not just a man. She was being ushered along the street, and it was difficult to see her behind the figure of the man who was obviously larger than she was.
They must know who av dun wat unless shhe got picked up by police car!!!
Hi Tr Portg, @user-hy6cd4ik6k, thanks for your comment's'...I have spoken with the Police some time bk. I feel they know who did it too.
...well who is likely to be around in the early hours, apart from the milkman?
very likely her private life was the key to her disappearance ... a jealous wife or even a group of jealous wives had her disposed of?
Thanks for your comment @daisy-tl2h
I think some of her secrets got out and it really pissed some people off, as it would if you found out she had sleeped with yours and other people's partners.
Was she involved in blackmail or extortion of someone prominent, and if pregnant was about to remove the pin from the hand grenade. Seems she wasn't a tough cookie though? I do get the feeling it's sexually motivated. Thoughts?
‘grenade pin’ is a good thought x
Hi Frilly, some great questions asked and thoughts given here. For me personally I don’t think it’s sexually motivated. I think a number of people have been involved in Claudia disappearance and there is an element of fear and misguided loyalty within the group. I think Peter (her father) & Martin Dales knew a lot more than they let on. It’s a very complex case Frilly with lots of avenues to go down. However, I think this case will be solved, all it takes is a slip of the tongue, a breakdown in relationships or somebody with a conscience who wants to do the right thing.
@@bfreeascanbe6541 For someone to be convicted, the Crown have to prove their guilt. A slip of the tongue is unlikely to be enough.
@joshua6244 totally agree pal but I believe the police know a lot more than we can imagine with various lines of evidence. A slip of the tongue in itself will not get a person / persons convicted but it will be a chink in the armour, a week spot. As soon as it’s said then it can’t be retracted. Once somebody slips up or decides to ease the weight on their shoulders then Claudia’s story will be told
Claudia does not come across as worldly, or someone who would be vindictive towards anyone. I could be wrong, but she seems to have been a reliable, kind and loving person. The suggestions about her involvement with several men, may be difficult to prove, and married men may not want to admit to such liasons. I feel very sad for her family, devastating.
I thought same about the chief at work why he waited year maybe he was scared as everyone was getting accused of affair. The police aren't stupid he will have been looked at.
Idk the facts but im pretty sure there were legal health n safety things saying you could only work a certain.number of hours a week, so her 12 days in a row isn't likely for that reason. Somebody wpuld have to check employment law for the time coz im not certain tho
But maybe she was just trying to explain briefly in text form that she had a combo of shifts at the bar and also on earliest at college?
Or maybe it was somebody who had Claudia’s phone and was relaying a message to Jen King (her best mate who never checked on her and was only 3 doors away from the Nag’s Head),days could be hours and the deed committed was no fun!! Never is when disposing of somebody! All I’m saying is I’m thankful I don’t have mates like Claudia’s. 15 years Claudia has been missing, it’s time somebody grows a pair and does the right thing
Thanks Nevadatan for your thoughts. It seems to be a text sent out to explain her absence, I feel.
Thanks bfreeascanbe, all avenues to be considered.
Hi Nevada, thanks for this thought, as Researcher I try clarify viewers ideas...And yours was CORRECT, however she was working in the bar to learn all aspects of the hospitality trade. (that I have never mentioned before!?) But that was to commence on the Sunday. Which had no effect on her meeting Suzy on the Thursday or her dad that Friday, both in the Nags Head, a few doors up. Thanks again.
The man in the CCTV that was walking that morning near Claudias house. He was carrying a rucksack. Wonder if the rucksack on his back belonged to Claudia as the rucksack was missing from her house. Maybe he murdered her that morning in her house and took her workbag for some reason
Yes, I actually think she was murdered the night before. The backpack appears to have been taken to stage the fact she left early for work. Nope, she was taken and murdered that evening imo.
But she is seen on her way to work that morning. I thought those witnesses were concrete bc there were a few
@@big..377bag was taken and dumped on route, someone had seen a similar bag near university next to path that she took, but not there later when police checked, did person that dumped the bag forget about phone inside it.
Go on! I think you’re on to something there!🤔
Thank you for your input tlsum, hopefully we will solve this case...TOGETHER. A CHAIN IS AS STRONG AS ITS WEAKEST LINK.
@@coldcase11 Definitely 🤔
This has obviously been well planned out ....police cant find nothing .... no one seen anything its so sad i feel for her mum 😭😭😭😭😭 i think maybe that christopher haliwell got hold of her !!
I don’t think this is Haliwell as I think there are a number of people involved! Like you said it’s too well planned, I believe Claudia knew who it was. There are so many avenues you can go down (5th Avenue being one of them!), that it’s very difficult to see the full picture. It’s like that missing Jigsaw piece when once found and fitted in place it all becomes clear
no...
not Christopher Halliwell
No, sure he's been cleared of this crime
Your the first British female you tuber I’ve heard on this. Hit the nail on the head re the “no show” and no “x” on the text. Most women would be straight round to see what I’d done. Very very odd 😊
@hels4739, Thanks for this, you are so right.
Fantastic video. Very well researched as there is info here that most people don’t know.
Further info, Jen was working behind bar the night she was expecting to meet Claudia - don’t really think this makes the question you asked less important though!
One thing strikes me about Claudia - everyone has a different perception of her. If you listened to her friends/father and mother speak and take the statements in isolation, they would be describing different people - especially the father and mother.
It seems to me Claudia was very good at being the person others wanted her to be. Which is traditionally a people-pleasing attitude.
When she drew the curtains at night and was alone, it must have been very upsetting knowing she had to wear numerous masks. And that no one really knew the real Claudia. Maybe the excessive drinking/various relationships was her way of dealing with it. But in my mind, that puts suicide on the table of potential outcomes.
From my own digging around, I am not entirely sure Claudia was at home the night she went missing. She could easily be watching the TV at someone else’s house and there could be a crime scene elsewhere. Or she could have been at home - and if that is the case, because of the odd text message it lends to the fact she died that night. The police being adamant she went missing in the morning in my opinion threw them way off the mark in what they were looking for and where.
Agree with everything you’ve said here Jon.. We need to keep delving and pushing for Claudia.. The answers are out there and with a persistent will by a strong community Claudia will get the Justice she deserves..
Thank you for your in-depth comment, @jonlogan1093, great feedback. I too believe that she was not at home the morning 'they' think she left for work. Keep an eye out for my forth coming video... I am also convinced, it was not suicide.
Could she have been upstairs of the Nags Head with someone that night? From memory I'm sure a bloody mattress was taken out of a NH bedroom soon after.
Very possible big, but I personally don’t think it would be a small amount of blood. I think it would have been very bloody or no blood at all
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I think theories need to be tested out at the location by doing reconstructions using actors.
Smacks of a conspiracy.
@mrjamesdavidrobert2115, agreed.
@@coldcase11 could we arrange a way we could kick about our ideas on this?
@mr.jamesdavidrobert2115, we are open to suggestions.
@@coldcase11 maybe she was seeing a copper??
She was dating different Irish men
she is a propagandist
Hi @arjun-iv4wr,
I never considered that word before, but as it is a Latin word meaning...'Things that must be disseminated', then I guess we are/I am. (Do you think it is Positive/negative or neutral word?) I say positive to her mum and Claudia's true loved ones, maybe negative to the perpetrators and maybe neutral to the viewer.
I wouldn’t say propagandist but I would say Truthsayer.. I’ve seen every video of researcher@coldcase11 + many others. One thing I can say is that researcher concentrates on the facts and answers questions people think but may not voice because they feel they may be upsetting someone or labelled as someone away from the norm. Surely, the only thing that matters is finding Claudia and putting the people responsible for her disappearance behind bars. Too many people close to Claudia have tried to undermine her character, portraying her as some sort of loose woman who targets married men as well as others. These people need to be answerable and one day they will be.
I thought she was Sagittarius