If it's colder the stuff won't work as well. Think you might want a clear coat primer and then a clear coat top coat with hardener ( 2K ) in order to get a durable finish.
@@stuartgibson hello would you be able to drop links for powerful paint stripper and then matt or gloss black spray paint a primer hardener please and reliable ppe thank you
@@JGilly-cp1tk no paint stripper is powerful after the ban of methylene chloride. thats what old paint strippers used to use and that's why paint strippers these days absolutely suck
Never touch exposed metal that your going to clear coat with your bare hands the oils and acids from your skin will ruin your end product rubber gloves is a must and a wipe down with acetone before application is a must just for future reference other than that the frame is nice raw look is awesome.
Big tip for painting bare metal is to use a 2-part epoxy primer/clear coat. Adheres to the metal chemically rather than a solvent drying, much more durable
They modified the paint stripper you used to get in walmart because of international regulations. The paint stripper to spray on and the paint just fizzles off you only get in russia nowadays.
what was the second paint stripper you used? I'm in Canada and they banned the use of methyl-chloride paint strippers if im correct, so all the new stuff works like that first can you put on, that did absolutely nothing. so frustrating.
Dunkin Killuminati I hear you! Extremely frustrating when you know how much better the ‘old fashioned’ stuff is. Try looking for paint stripper from Rust-oleum. That stuff works decent-ish over here.
After the stripper, you cleaned the frame. Then polish and clear coat, or polish, clean again, and then clear coat? I'm just wondering if you cleaned the frame after the polish, and if so what you used? Thanks
Im having the same troubles removing paint from my bike . I think it may be because theyre powder coated not painted . The powder pigment is applied electrically and not chemically like paint is. Ive noticed on some smaller parts the paint stripper worked but the forks and handlebars and frame did not come off at all.
I have a bare metal frame, but over the years, rust has webbed all throughout the frame under the clear coat. Im afraid sanding it down would get rid of the discoloration of the welds. Do you have any suggestions?
I like the raw finish. I have used EvapoRust to remove the frame rust , but that is required a spray off, What polish removes rust? For paint stripper I think you want the paint type respirator, not a particulate one, and in 70 plus degrees eh? NIce raw finish though. I'd want all rust off for sure, doing that job in warm temps. I have to decide on how to re finish my MOntagner Italian road frame, it's loaded with chipped original paint, looks awful that way. My frame was chromed fully so paint over chrome really ends up like crap. I'd like to share the frame for ideas.
Holy shit I started looking for videos because my paint stripper didn't work just like in your case and your video came out first. You can't imagine my relief in seeing I'm not the only one bumped out
Done this a couple of years ago to a donor Volume Vessel v1 frame that had original paint plus it had been painted over with primer and another layer of some funky nail varnish that didn't want to come off easily. Took many attempts, turned out alright except the primer was difficult to remove from the welded areas. Never did clear coat it do you have some finished shots of your frame in clear gloss?
I have a scratched up mongoose frame that is white and I have some really nice after market parts so I want to paint the frame to make them match because I don't have money for a new frame
hello friend I liked your video, I have a frame kink whip 2020 black color and I want to have it in raw but I am concerned that the unions do not come burned like yours .. I don't know what to do
Your welds probably don’t look like mine do. Either you like it like that or you don’t. If you don’t you could always paint your frame a different color? But do know, in my opinion there is nothing better than the original paint.
Cool end result! It looks like factory raw But I gotta say that I think it looks like that because the initial color was a translucent finish Am I right?
Thank you so much! The discoloured welds are visible through the translucent finish so yes I think that has been done on purpose and it does give a great effect raw. Besides that the initial finish has nothing to do with the end result.
Try citristrip it's not as toxic to the skin and it starts working in minutes if you leave it on for over 30 minutes you can literally just start wiping the paint off with a rag. There may be stronger stuff on the market but this stuff is cheap doesn't tear your skin off and works great on frames.
@@stuartgibson I'm thinking of stripping an aluminum Cannondale track frame to clear coat with Duplic color but not sure if it holds out over aluminum? any experience with that?
Yeah I tried sand papering my bmx and put a bit of paint thinner and then it looks kinda sick im not gonna lie an then I practice wheelie and 3months I learned it
Reapplied the paint stripper numerous times. Besides the paint going soft making sanding a drama I wanted to prevent deep scratches on the metal for a nicer finish
It does? Can you explain what happens? I guess for a lugged 80's Italian steel road frame , this wouldn't be an issue? Unless any frame with vent holes near the junctures create a destructive issue? All steel and alloy frames have these vent holes where needed , like the seat stays meeting the seat tube.
spaceman yes you should be able to. I’m guessing your bike is aluminum so the finish will be different. Would be nice to polish after having stripped the paint!
Unexamined Undead44 it does for me because I clear coated it but you could also leave it raw and just touch it up occasionally but it will be prone to rust if it gets moist
Im thinking about doing the same but my frame is soo rusty atm, i also have one of those trans colorways rn and the paint is peeling off and showing a lot of rust, how did you remove the rust? You think it would look decent?
Well you need to get rid of the trans paint first. After that maybe take something like a fine sandpaper 1000grit+ or scotch brite to remove the rust. You'll lose the raw tubing and get a more polished look that way. Not much else you can do
The leftists in Government like EU, and all of Califoirnia think they're saving the planet, but that's not working, this earth is in the end days regardless.
If it were me, I would definitely invest in a better face mask. You might wanna get something with real filters. I realize the cloth masks are cheaper, but I would rather invest the extra dollars into quality materials to protect your heath more. Just a thought, but great work
However you do it it is messy prep work... did it once with stripper it was aliminum frame. Messy and end up with scuffing most of paint. Next time with other bike just took it for sandblast.
Did I miss which products he used? Didn’t show how he cleaned the frame. I feel like making a video with such ambiguities doesn’t help those like me who is looking into stripping a frame. Thanks
If you want to repaint it, why strip all paint? Why not just sand it to make surface even and slightly rough for new paint to adhere to and then just paint over existing paint ?
Do yourself a favor and google an industrial media blaster in your area. Faster, more thorough, and keeps you from messing with those nasty paint strippers. Local place to me did it for $50 plus primed it.
Professional paint stripper near me will strip all paint and all rust, inside and out for just $25. Really can't even imagine the trouble that saves me.
If it's colder the stuff won't work as well. Think you might want a clear coat primer and then a clear coat top coat with hardener ( 2K ) in order to get a durable finish.
Very good advice! Definitely the clear coat is what I would have done different. Didn’t stay on as I would have wanted.
@@stuartgibson hello would you be able to drop links for powerful paint stripper and then matt or gloss black spray paint a primer hardener please and reliable ppe thank you
@@JGilly-cp1tk no paint stripper is powerful after the ban of methylene chloride. thats what old paint strippers used to use and that's why paint strippers these days absolutely suck
@@stuartgibsonYeah clear coat isn't designed to be applied direct to metal (DTM) - no adhesion. You need an epoxy or self-etching primer.
Never touch exposed metal that your going to clear coat with your bare hands the oils and acids from your skin will ruin your end product rubber gloves is a must and a wipe down with acetone before application is a must just for future reference other than that the frame is nice raw look is awesome.
You are correct, did all that off camera, frame is still going strong rust free 👌🏻
You know what clear coat I should get??
¡Mucho gusto!
Good point!
Thank you for the great advice!!!!!
I like the no paint look.
Just spray some clear coat on it to try and prevent rust
@Matt Johnston me too!
Same I'm stripping the paint from my lowrider bike. Doing it on a lowrider bike is harder than doing it on a bmx bike
It will rust since its steel
Same !!
Big tip for painting bare metal is to use a 2-part epoxy primer/clear coat. Adheres to the metal chemically rather than a solvent drying, much more durable
Good tip!
Very informational. Thank you! The bare frame looks great too!
Thanks for watching!
I will be stripping the paint on my bike soon. Thank you for the instructions!@@stuartgibson
Where can you buy that stripper you used the second time
I used a blow torch on mine and it was so much easier and quicker cleaned it up and now it looks great
Nice! I've heard that before
They modified the paint stripper you used to get in walmart because of international regulations. The paint stripper to spray on and the paint just fizzles off you only get in russia nowadays.
what was the second paint stripper you used? I'm in Canada and they banned the use of methyl-chloride paint strippers if im correct, so all the new stuff works like that first can you put on, that did absolutely nothing. so frustrating.
Dunkin Killuminati I hear you! Extremely frustrating when you know how much better the ‘old fashioned’ stuff is. Try looking for paint stripper from Rust-oleum. That stuff works decent-ish over here.
Bro, I just used this paint stripper and it did fuck all to the paint on my frame. So fucking frustrating.
@@waylmaster7487 that’s what paint stripper does
What is the name of the second paint stripper product? Also have you used others and which would you highly recommend?
After the stripper, you cleaned the frame. Then polish and clear coat, or polish, clean again, and then clear coat? I'm just wondering if you cleaned the frame after the polish, and if so what you used? Thanks
what paint stripper was it you used last?
Im having the same troubles removing paint from my bike . I think it may be because theyre powder coated not painted . The powder pigment is applied electrically and not chemically like paint is. Ive noticed on some smaller parts the paint stripper worked but the forks and handlebars and frame did not come off at all.
What did you do in the end? I'm having the same problem.
Very interesting!
Wait but does all frames come with the heat highlights
I have a stln score
This was so informational
Lol
I have a bare metal frame, but over the years, rust has webbed all throughout the frame under the clear coat. Im afraid sanding it down would get rid of the discoloration of the welds. Do you have any suggestions?
No I don't unfortunately. Sanding it down will get rid of some discoloration. Maybe a rust converter product works for you?
Hey, it's work for FIEND REYNOLDS V2 FRAME?
Yes sir
Going to build a klunker cruiser. Plan on stripping frame to raw and clear coat
Sounds good! Keep me up to date!
What's the best stripper to use in the UK.
I honestly don't know
what was the second paint stipper you purchased
Rustoleum
did you use gloss or matte clear coat?
I went for a gloss clear coat.
Does Matt clear goat Make it Matt ?
@@briansanchez9663 Did you paint your bike yet?
That's awesome man I'm thinking of doing that with my tall order frame make it raw finish 👌
Go for it! Make sure you get some strong paint stripper or it’ll take a long time 😂
@@stuartgibson Haha 😂 ohh I know right
I like the raw finish. I have used EvapoRust to remove the frame rust , but that is required a spray off, What polish removes rust? For paint stripper I think you want the paint type respirator, not a particulate one, and in 70 plus degrees eh? NIce raw finish though. I'd want all rust off for sure, doing that job in warm temps. I have to decide on how to re finish my MOntagner Italian road frame, it's loaded with chipped original paint, looks awful that way. My frame was chromed fully so paint over chrome really ends up like crap. I'd like to share the frame for ideas.
which product is that?
Check the comments! There are a lot of recommendations etc
Holy shit I started looking for videos because my paint stripper didn't work just like in your case and your video came out first. You can't imagine my relief in seeing I'm not the only one bumped out
In the comments there are a lot of suggestions on how to improve the process!
What brand stripper did you end up using?
Rustoleum
You never mention the paint stripper u used ?????
Because every country will have different brands, products and regulations. It's not a brand stripper review video
@@stuartgibson so what? Just tell us what it was. Do you see all the comments asking? Did you sign an NDA or something?
Does the paint stripper work with powder coated frame
It should! But you might need to do re-do it a couple of times if the coating is thick
Can i use paint thinner
No, that wouldn’t do anything I’m afraid
Can i use another substance because in the area i live they dont sell that
No paint stripper removes the paint, nothing else
What brand was the paint striper
Nothing I’d care to recommend. Heard Rust-oleum paint stripper works good!
@@stuartgibson bought this bike with bad paint job
He was already planning for the coranavirus
so true, and that frame does look cool!
Done this a couple of years ago to a donor Volume Vessel v1 frame that had original paint plus it had been painted over with primer and another layer of some funky nail varnish that didn't want to come off easily. Took many attempts, turned out alright except the primer was difficult to remove from the welded areas. Never did clear coat it do you have some finished shots of your frame in clear gloss?
Yes sir I do! Bikecheck video on the channel and bikecheck photos on my Instagram @stuartbmx
If you aren't going to clearcoat the frame I suggest boeshield T-9, they use it on aircraft to reduce rusting.
I just did this to my bike but there's a lot of small black lines in the frame and idk what to do
what sandpaper should i use
Nothing too aggressive because you want to prevent making deep scratches in the metal underneath
Could you name a material you are buying? Please
I used some Dutch specific stuff but there are a lot of tips and suggestions in the comments here!
Ayoo i need your help were did you get the removal thing
The paint stripper you mean? You should be able to find that at your local hardware store.
@@stuartgibson Thank you
Baked on enamal is hard to strip off
True!
The weld points adds to the coolness
I agree!
@0:51 what?
Seems everyone heard it but me!
LMAO bro I was about to post… wait wtf he just say 😅😂
Men l love you videos and how you set up your frame ❤
I appreciate that!
Clearcoat on steel never ever work. Bromton for example clear powder coat frames and after a paint chip patina rust shows up.
It merely slows down the process. I don't get my bike wet and change frames every year. No patina for me!
can i apply this to any bike frames? like mtb?
Yes it should! Unless it's a carbon frame.. Do know that the look of raw frames will depend on the material and finish of the bike itself.
I have a scratched up mongoose frame that is white and I have some really nice after market parts so I want to paint the frame to make them match because I don't have money for a new frame
Stuart Gibson what was the stuff u used to remove the paint like what brand ?
@@elliotwood7653 Nair chicks put it on their legs and shit
Idiot
Where did you buy your paint stripper from?
It's a Dutch specific paint stripper as far as I know but there are lots of tips and suggestions in the comments here!
hello friend I liked your video, I have a frame kink whip 2020 black color and I want to have it in raw but I am concerned that the unions do not come burned like yours .. I don't know what to do
Your welds probably don’t look like mine do. Either you like it like that or you don’t. If you don’t you could always paint your frame a different color? But do know, in my opinion there is nothing better than the original paint.
What grit would you use?
240/400 are safe ones, not too aggressive I guess
Cool end result!
It looks like factory raw
But I gotta say that I think it looks like that because the initial color was a translucent finish
Am I right?
Thank you so much! The discoloured welds are visible through the translucent finish so yes I think that has been done on purpose and it does give a great effect raw. Besides that the initial finish has nothing to do with the end result.
How did u polish the frame?
Metal polish and a cloth. Easy!
Will ir work with my bmx frame it has 3 layers of different paint ?
It will! Just requires a bit more work and patience!
Try citristrip it's not as toxic to the skin and it starts working in minutes if you leave it on for over 30 minutes you can literally just start wiping the paint off with a rag. There may be stronger stuff on the market but this stuff is cheap doesn't tear your skin off and works great on frames.
SnEaKeR S33kEr84 Thanks For The Recommendation 👍
What polish did you use?
Just a random metal/chrome polish I had around
What did you use to clean and polish it?
Just soapy water to clean everything off, then polished it with a cloth and metal polish
@@stuartgibson thanks man. Your's came out really nice
Will it be nice on an alloy frame?
I think it can be! Especially if you polished the frame a little bit afterwards!
@@stuartgibson I'm thinking of stripping an aluminum Cannondale track frame to clear coat with Duplic color but not sure if it holds out over aluminum? any experience with that?
can I use thinner or acetone instead of paint stripper on my mtb? Because I font know where to buy paint stripper.
No thinner or acetone won’t strip the paint off your bike unfortunately
@@stuartgibson oh I see.
Will this work with a mini bike frame the BD30 Mini bike Frame
Yes sir it should!
Stuart Gibson thank you!
Isnt powder coat the strongest type of paint too? That might be why it took so long to remove.
Yes it is, but as a viewer pointed out, the low outside temperature could have also played a part
What is the product brand? Thanks
I didn't like the ones I tried. Heard people got better results from Rust-oleum paint stripper!
Thanks mate.! Good luck on your new videos.! Cheers
Was that frame steel or chromally?
Well technically chromoly is a type of steel alloy but I understand what you mean. This frame is full chromoly.
beautiful result... do you think i can remove chrome this way?
No, that shouldn’t be possible.
El Meat Beat because my frame is raw and i think it looks dope but my fork is chrome and i think it’d be nice if it was raw too... just wondering
Chrome is a metal permanently bonded to the fork metal
How's your 2020 bug out bike doing?
It's doing very well, did change the frame to a different color tho. You can check out the build here: th-cam.com/video/K8BxTe8rCDY/w-d-xo.html
Yeah I tried sand papering my bmx and put a bit of paint thinner and then it looks kinda sick im not gonna lie an then I practice wheelie and 3months I learned it
Awesome!
I see you got the stripper in the Netherlands. What brand did you use?
Nothing I'd gladly recommend. Although Rust-Oleum should have a good one, it's a bit difficult to find is my experience.
How’s the product called?
The stuff I used didn’t work good. Best go for Rust-oleum or something.
What works best as paint remover?
For my bike
It’s hard to say. There’s a ton of suggestions in the comments here.
0:52
Was there any sanding involved or was it just a case of reapplying the paint stripper numerous times? Thanks!
Reapplied the paint stripper numerous times. Besides the paint going soft making sanding a drama I wanted to prevent deep scratches on the metal for a nicer finish
It takes some time but using super fine sandpaper is a better option. Paint stripper fucks up the welds...
Yea lol I wanna paint my bike and upgrade parts on it its a hard tail mountain bike
It does? Can you explain what happens? I guess for a lugged 80's Italian steel road frame , this wouldn't be an issue? Unless any frame with vent holes near the junctures create a destructive issue? All steel and alloy frames have these vent holes where needed , like the seat stays meeting the seat tube.
Turtle Wax Ceramic Hybrid is what I use on my chrome bmx. Project Farm on YT rated it the best.
Is it steel?
Yes it is!
Can you attach a child seat to the back?
No not possible
Could i do it on a dual suspension?
spaceman yes you should be able to. I’m guessing your bike is aluminum so the finish will be different. Would be nice to polish after having stripped the paint!
Frame model ?
20.7" Colony Sweet Tooth 2017 Trans Metal Gold
It is very beautiful. I wish it was mine too
Is it only good for steel frames or can you do it on aluminum to?
aluminium works too
@@stuartgibson cool thanks
00:51-00:53 made me lol childishly
I can’t unhear it anymore either
What the 2ad paint remover name
It's a Dutch only brand, De Groene Parel.
What kind of clear coat should I use??
Whichever you can get your hands on! 2k clear coat is the strongest tho!
@@stuartgibson thanks!!
Daaamn it looks like its chrome plated how did you do that?
Unexamined Undead44 I polished it up lightly with a cloth and some metal polish!
Does the chrome looks stays consistently?
Unexamined Undead44 it does for me because I clear coated it but you could also leave it raw and just touch it up occasionally but it will be prone to rust if it gets moist
I tried mine before and polish it several times but it didn't get the chrome look that i wanted
@@tedmartyorlido3953 is your frame full 4130 cromo tubing ? Or is it high tense steel ? That may make a difference in the end result.
Im thinking about doing the same but my frame is soo rusty atm, i also have one of those trans colorways rn and the paint is peeling off and showing a lot of rust, how did you remove the rust? You think it would look decent?
Well you need to get rid of the trans paint first. After that maybe take something like a fine sandpaper 1000grit+ or scotch brite to remove the rust. You'll lose the raw tubing and get a more polished look that way. Not much else you can do
Paintstripper in the EU is about as potent as water these days.
Anything in the EU is about as potent as soy milk these days!
Bough some stuff from B&Q yesterday, its like coconut butter and about as useful for removing paint!
@@gabriels6644 Home strip, £12. Dont buy it. Took frame to be sandblasted for £20, perfect job.
The leftists in Government like EU, and all of Califoirnia think they're saving the planet, but that's not working, this earth is in the end days regardless.
Use jasco paint and rust remover
I’m going to strip my bmx s paint and going with the chrome and Matte black look
Sounds good!
Stuart Gibson thanks bro
I want to make my frame matte black but don’t know what I need
@@briansanchez9663 dont know if you still need help but you need fine grit sand paper the paint, clear coat and safety stuff
It worked
Good to hear!
What grit?
Doesn’t really matter as long as you don’t out scratches through the paint into the metal because you’ll see it in the end result
I really like this bike
Thanks!
Hi
Pls go and build those dirt jumps again.!
I definitely will! Bit too much rain this time of year, so it’ll have to wait for a bit.
Very nice
Reduced bike wiegth also
Iwilltry to my rb
Can't say it reduces much haha
Can you see where I can get this product
Sorry I can not, but there should be plenty of options available for you
How can I turn my frame matt black ?
You don’t need to remove all the paint to do so, just touch it up lightly with some sandpaper, degrease and spray it mat black from a spray can
If it were me, I would definitely invest in a better face mask. You might wanna get something with real filters. I realize the cloth masks are cheaper, but I would rather invest the extra dollars into quality materials to protect your heath more. Just a thought, but great work
Good call! Thanks for the tip
that's awesome man
Thank you sir!
However you do it it is messy prep work... did it once with stripper it was aliminum frame. Messy and end up with scuffing most of paint. Next time with other bike just took it for sandblast.
Oh yes, very messy!
what clear coat did u use to put on top to prevent rust?? thanks
I used a automotive clear coat from Motip
"Touch it with some polish"
*touches rust* KURWA, PIEROGI!!!*
Rust:aight imma headout
"You want to prevent it from going on your hands... coming in your face" That's what she said.
Haha tell me about it..
Face shots call of duty type girl like gold
Probably easier to get drain cleaner that is pretty nasty lye is dangerous
Did I miss which products he used? Didn’t show how he cleaned the frame. I feel like making a video with such ambiguities doesn’t help those like me who is looking into stripping a frame. Thanks
Yeah, I dropped the ball on that one. A lot of the stuff is dependent on which country you live in tho. The comments are full of good tips etc!
If you want to repaint it, why strip all paint? Why not just sand it to make surface even and slightly rough for new paint to adhere to and then just paint over existing paint ?
If you want to repaint it there is no need to strip all the paint no. But that wasn't the look I was personally going for in this case.
It’s a far better end result when you take the time to restart the whole process on raw metal
So cool man
Thanks!
As I know right when you get paint stripper on your your arm and your legs damn that
Yeah, that stuff is clearly not good for you!
You gave no details of how you cleaned or prepped before priming
It’s because I didn’t prime anything
U look lyk u don't even wanna do it and having the what am i doing look... but love the video man... awsum..
Thanks 😅 It's a dirty job, I don't enjoy doing it that's for sure
Do yourself a favor and google an industrial media blaster in your area. Faster, more thorough, and keeps you from messing with those nasty paint strippers. Local place to me did it for $50 plus primed it.
Professional paint stripper near me will strip all paint and all rust, inside and out for just $25. Really can't even imagine the trouble that saves me.
Too much work..
He was talking bout the paint stripper like my uncle
Knowledgeable man your uncle, I like him already!
So good! 😍
Thank you!