The Problem with bagless machines is, that nearly all of them can't handle a large amount of dirt in one pass, cause the separation process doesn't work properly anymore, so a lot of dirt directly collects at the filter and because of this, the suction power drops very quick.
The old fashioned Electrolux now called Aerus by Electrolux still has the 4 ply paper bag and suction is always great!! The bag has a seal that when you take the bag out of the vacuum you won't spill the dirt out!!
The bad thing about the old and now obsolete bagged vacuum cleaners is the suction would fall quickly as the bag fills up but on bagless vacuum cleaners the vacuum retains suction for a longer period of time
Hi the cyclonic Electrolux one on the left is the same as my mum’s vacuum.She had it for 11 years and still going. This why they make more jobs than ever
I actually do the same thing. It's not recommended, but I haven't noticed any drop in suction when I have re used the old bags. Of course bag bores will get clogged in some point.
But bagless vacuum cleaners are way more common as they don't require bags at all meaning it's less expensive to run them and they also use less electricity and don't lose suction so quickly either
Do not ever buy cyclonic vacuum cleaners!!! I used to have a Hoover with cyclonic system and The filter after 10 minutes of vacuuming clogged up!!! Choose a bagless for wet and dry or bagged ones!!!!
@@antonkukoba3378 however, bagged vacuum cleaners are virtually obsolete completely and also badly outdated and bagless vacuum cleaners are the norm now and will be in the years to come
Actually bagless work even better and last up to 10 years if cared for properly Also bagless vacuum cleaners are no longer popular anymore for home use and are virtually obsolete Bagless vacuums will also quieter too and are 100% more effective at picking up dirt
I used to have a hoover air steerable noisy bagless vacuum that barely agitates better than a Dyson DC07 and has spartan airflow. Picked up a Lindhaus DP-5 from a thrift store and the suction motor and brushroll motor sounds so much better than the hoover. It left really nice carpet lines and filled up over half the bag just vacuuming what my crappy bagless hoover has left behind plus 2 months of no vacuuming because I cannot stand the little screamer motor in that hoover.
I just want a normal bag vacuum. I have bought 2 bagless vacuums, one cost $250, the other about $120. They work great for a few weeks and then don't suck up anything anymore. They cannot handle my house but bag vacuums are been fine. We have 3 indoor cats and 2 of them are long haired, 2 young children, plus we live on a main road so dust and dirt is always being blown in. I need to vacuum at least twice a week. Problem is, I can't find any old vacuums anymore. It is all these bagless crap vaccums at the shops. And they cost so much.
I know exactly what you mean. For example my sister has a big house and a lot of pets. She had a cheap bagless blue Volta (seen in my channel). It was constantly losing suction and clogging. Also filter would have constant cleaning. She just didn't have time to do those messy filter cleaning "sessions". So I gave her this pink bagged Volta and she is VERY happy now. She said that it's the best vacuum she ever had. Actually She send me thanks messages several times. I ordered to her package of bags to it. People often don't realize how easy it is to get bags from the internet stores. You can even get bags to old vacuums easily. Those bags aren't even pricey. Bags come to your mailbox. It can't get easier than that. So bagged vacuum is must if you wan't to have worry free and effortless vacuum.
I have a Samsung hapless vacuum and I've been using it for 3 years now and it works completely fine eith my 4 bedroom 3 bathroom 2 living room hoise. I have 2 dogs 2 cats. birds and other animals in my house which make a mess. i paied $320 for my vacuum.
Stephen Snell Bagged is still more more sanitary and much better choice for pet owners and especially people with allergies. Plus, most commercial and high vacuums are bagged since they're easier to maintain and usually more reliable. That's not say bagless are bad but they are messier when emptying and harder to clean.
i just ordered the shark powered lift away. I prefer an upright. and my place isn't that big, it is all carpet except kitchen and bath. and i can vacuum it all without happening to dump out the canister at all until i am done. If i had a bigger place i would consider a canister with a bag.
Exactly. Filter maintenance is sometimes frustrating and messy. Bagless vacuums also need bigger motor to have same amount of suction than the bagged vacuum with smaller motor.
You are wrong. Bagless ones are the best. They have very powerful motors and suck up DIRT very fast and keep it inside altogether until the canister is emptied. Also they are much less expensive which is what I like about them. I like the AEG BAGLESS HOOVERS.
I prefer bagged vacuums bagless clog easy. emptying and washing the filters are a nightmare with a bagless. Bagged vacuums have better suction even when the bag is getting full the suction is still good.
@@vacuumtests9225 I have a Bush cyclonic vacuum cleaner and it has absolutely fantastic suction to it too and picks up dirt off the floor really quickly too My Bush cyclonic vacuum cleaner also is bagless as I won't spend £'s on the bagged vacuum cleaners I find cleaning the filters of bagless vacuum cleaners no trouble at all
try with some fine dust and see how quickly the bag gets clogged! I've used my Dyson for 9 years, it still works great and never required any parts. How much money have I saved in bags since? Particularly if you consider that good 'branded' bags are expensive. I bought a bagged vacuum for my rented house some time ago. It worked great and I was kind of disappointed that maybe I just wasted money on the Dyson when I purchased it. 3/4 rooms later it clearly lost half of the suction, particularly because I was redecorating and I had lots of plaster dust around. I have vacuumed rubbles with my Dyson and besides having to wash the filter (it's an old model, newer are more efficient) it simply works great. These 'reviews' should be more comprehensive, clearly a bagless won't hold as much dust than a bagged vacuum but that's only one point to be analysed - where are all the others. Also, that bagless vacuum is crap! If your pre-filter is stuffed with fluff after 2 minutes of use then the 'cyclone' simply does not work. On a Dyson you won't have a spec of dust on the pre-filter after a similar task.
Well one year worth of bags cost around 20€ (5 bags 10€). Not bad at all. Modern high filtration fleece bags don't clog until they are almost full. It takes more than one month until one bag is full. Then there are some other things: All Dyson vacuums are overly noisy (over 80 db) and cyclonic parts get covered with the fine dust. I mean parts what you can't clean. Cyclones can also clog and then you are in big trouble. Emptying the bin is very messy also. Don't get me wrong. I really like Dyson vacs = styling and best cyclone separation compared to other bagless vacuums. But I wouldn't use them as daily vacuuming. You should watch my uptaded video: Bagless VS Bagged Vacuum Cleaner (Which one to choose). th-cam.com/video/EPkuqI-6TeA/w-d-xo.html
The vacuum I was mentioning came with a fleece bag and it clogged as usual. Not so badly as a paper bag but still does. On that occasion I bought some cheap paper bags while I was redecorating so I didn't have to waste so much money. My Dyson is noisy, agreed. The Cyclone has never clogged. I've dismantled it twice over 10 years and never found anything clogged inside - nor any fine dust which couldn't be cleaned with some hot water, which was harmless anyway. Emptying the bin is not the best thing but with a little attention it's not so bad. I'm not saying that a good Miele is worse than a Dyson, just saying that Dyson's are not as bad as someone would like to picture them. * I've recently moved house. The new one was in great shape but I emptied 8 canisters of fluff and dirt by vacuuming the carpets. That would have been several bags on a bagged vacuum cleaner. Without mentioning those cheap vacuum with hepa filters with no gaskets around them and the dust simply goes around the filter's frame! I'll go check the other video now :) (BTW, are you from Iceland?)
Fleece bags have differences. Some filtrate better than others. Finnish consumer reports tested different vacuums and they reported that for example Electrolux S-Bags didn't lose suction in the test where they vacuumed with the full bag. = plus.google.com/u/0/114579358444767690791/posts/cmZYD8sYwmc?pid=6298020401123628930&oid=114579358444767690791 If you vacuum just a fine dust then suction will drop, but in normal use that's not realistic. What it comes to dust capasity, bags work differently. They compact the dust so one bag will easilly last one month in the case where you have to empty bagless canister twice a week. Capacity = th-cam.com/video/dSS-sZlEJdM/w-d-xo.htmlm28s What it comes to Dyson cyclones to clog, youtube has a lot of videos about that = th-cam.com/video/qd2GWNgiAwM/w-d-xo.htmlm48s Nice to hear that yours has worked fine! and I actually enjoy using the bagless vacuum. I am vacuum enthusiast so for me taking good care of the vacuum is fun. My Electrolux UltraFlex bagless is just a single cyclone vac. Altought the cyclone is so called "high speed one". In normal use the pre motor filter needs to be washed about once in month. I do it more often and wash the bin weekly. Altought only thing that goes to the filter is the very fine dust. And finally I would love to own DC 41 MKII. Happy vacuuming! And I am from Finland.
Hello! (I work in Iceland every now and then and you have very similar accent when you speak English!) Yes, very find dust is not what you usually pick up from the floor but it shows you the potential. In the end that is what is clogging the bags. I also know that there are lots of Dyson around with clogged cyclons, in fact I had to modify mine as the bypass valve would not re-engage once triggered: that would slow down the airflow in the cyclone and cyclones only work when air is FAST. A normal consumer would not realise that and would just keep vacuuming - clogging the pre-motor filter and so on. I appreciate the practicality of bagged vacuums, but most of the tests online are honestly not very well conducted. I saw a video where a guy was measuring the particles out of a Dyson: he put the particle counter by a hose, but that was BEFORE the motor, so best it could happen it would SUCK air in - not blow out. Anyway, I guess we've been discussed about Vacuum cleaners enough for today! :)
BTW: I cannot really explain how come that clogged Dyson vacuum you linked has clogged like that. The cyclons exaust in a separate chamber where I usually find the finest dust - the coarser is filtered in the canister and coarsely filtered by a plastic filter. Now, I have NEVER-EVER found anything but fine dust in that chamber. If the technology was flawed, I would find some hair or debris or anything that in the long term would clog the cyclons. Never-ever. I suspect those vacuums are never ever emptied and in the end when they are screaming loud something finds its way through the cyclons...
That bagged vacuum cleaner in this video sounds noisier than the bagless vacuum To me bagless vacuum cleaners are more efficient and less power hungry and more economical
Ok, but now u lost money of 1 bag, we used in our workshop Solac bagless vacuum cleaner, and that filter get clogged up after 3 years of vacuuming microdust and saw dust, if are we used bagged vacuum, we will spend much much money on bags By the way before we find that vacuum cleaner next to the trash it might be used some years like a normal vacuum. Today it is sitting in the garage and we only vacuum car with it, because now we have got homemade central vacuum in our workshop, which is using bagged vacuum cleaner with reusable bag because capacity, and now, when i vacuum up some fine dust, i hear it does not suck up like before
In normal household use you only need to replace the bag once a month and it's like 2 dollar per bag. Then you got benefit of better airflow/suction, no mess emptying and overall longer lasting vacuum. I have done several videos showing how much better bagged vacuums are. However this only apply to household vacuums. High quality bags don't lose suction until they are very full. th-cam.com/video/qs0kmacc4qQ/w-d-xo.html
This is not a fair test. First of all bagless vacuums have a smaller bin then bagged vacuums. When a bagged vacuum is turned on, the bag expands and can fit more dirt unlike bagless which then in stays the same size as it is turned off. Use a vacuum with a bigger bin and use this volta and I am sure both vacuums will be able to pick it all up.
Bagged vacuums compacts the dust and they have at least 10 times more capacity than bagless vacuums. Normally one canister vacuum bag last at least one full moth in heavy use. In the bagless vacuums you have to empty the bin every time you have vacuumed the house + regular filter washing is needed time to time. I personally like both style vacuums, bagged and bagless :)
Are you serious? Buying bags every week? Why would anyone do that? One bag lasts EASILY one month and you can order them from the internet. For example whole year worth of bags cost roughly 20€ (23$).
Vacuumtests we have a taxi and a family car. 2 young kids, 3 bedroom house with carpets on both floors and a dog and a cat. we use a vaccum cleaner everyday, sometimes twice in one day. the wet weather here in uk doesn't help.
Nice-oscar, good-oscar, still doesn't equate to a mortgage, but I hear ya. You running a hotel over there? Filling a bag a week? How does one get so much dust and junk in one week? You live by the beach, or something? Even with 5 long hair cats, cereal spilling kids, sand everywhere, vacuuming taxi everyday, family car on weekends, man that's a load of dirt. I would get a good shop vacuum for the taxi, especially, other car, and garage, take that load off your house vac.
First of all bags cost money when it runs out. Second the bags could break pretty easily/rip. And it is not as good. I prefer to get baggles. You could get a shark rocket like me a dyson hover and lots more
It's a personal preference which one people like, bagged or bagless. I like both. Modern fleece bags don't rip unless you use the scissors. Yes they cost money.
I never had a bag rip, even when I used the cheap ones in my shop vac to suck up broken glass! Yes you do have to buy them but they hold a lot more dirt than a bagless tank and you can get them pretty cheap online m
Because she is dumb. Why would she clean it to perfection like that, it will get dirty when she use it again. Just empty that shit and plug it in again.
+Qasim Mir No it won't , Bagged vacuum will continue when Dyson is full. And Dyson suction power is quite poor anyway and it screams like all Dysons do.
+Vacuumtests Yeah I know Dyson doesn't have as much capacity but the suction on my Dyson is unbelievable. It just turns my 20 year old carpets into brand new ones.
+Qasim Mir I do like the most of the Dyson models. And I want to get some Dyson in the future. Let's take DC39 for example: + very good multi cyclone separation + design looks nice (futuristic) + no loss of suction + good tools - mediocre suction - loud whiny noise And something about the older Dyson uprights (before DC41 mkII). Otherwise very nice, but weak brush action & loud). Electrolux vs Dyson: th-cam.com/video/NSBovbdgTAI/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/-8wwQkBFXjw/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/IFPJ-Iq-1o0/w-d-xo.html
What do you mean that the FABRIC bag doesn't clog like PAPER ones do? The simple physics of vacuuming says that as soon as dirt enters the bag, regardless of what it's made of, air flow DIMINISHES.
Yes airflow and suction will lower, but so little that it doesn't matter. Clear truth is that fabric bags will keep the suction strong longer. Paper bag pores are much more coarse and it also leak dust to the dust compartment. That's why paper bags are slowly disappearing from the market. You need to watch one of my video. There you can see that even with the VERY full bag suction/airflow is very strong = th-cam.com/video/HCLXgo88krA/w-d-xo.html Turbo nozzle runs with suction so how fast it spins tells the change in suction.
The PHYSICS fact is that dirt impedes suction. There is no way around that; especially in a bag. The more dirt blocking the pores, the LESS air goes through, and hence, LESS suction. See for yourself using your SUCTION METER.
@@MarthaMansbridge What about the Dyson FULL SIZE upright and canister models? My Dyson upright sucks VERY WELL and doesn't need filter cleaning often.
@@vacuumtests9225 I checked it out. At one point, when the dirt was cleaned up, there was a HICCUP, where the same image started anew, like he stopped the recording, did something, (like EMPTY the bag), and then continued ... Hmm ... I wonder if he did (just to prove my point)! Sure is SUSPICIOUS.
Well this didn’t really tell me anything because it wasn’t an even comparison. When you were vacuuming with the bagless one you kept pausing and pulling the nozzle away from the dust pile and only vacuuming around the perimeter of the pile, whereas when u were using the bagged one you were vacuuming normally and without holding back, hence it appeared to be doing a much better job than the first one. Not sure why u were so clearly putting ur thumb on the scale, nor why no one else in the comments seemed to notice, but it def defeats the purpose of doing a comparison video.
+iwonabr Just to show the difference between bagged and bagless vacuum. Bagless is more messy to empty and has much smaller capacity. I accidentally overfilled the bin and it caused filter to get dirty. In normal use filter needs washing about twice a month. Bagged has large bag and it compacts the dust = Very big capacity. Filter maintenance is minimal, but you have to buy bags.
The Problem with bagless machines is, that nearly all of them can't handle a large amount of dirt in one pass, cause the separation process doesn't work properly anymore, so a lot of dirt directly collects at the filter and because of this, the suction power drops very quick.
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The Problem with bagless machines is, that nearly all of them can't handle a large amount of dirt in one pass, cause the separation process doesn't work properly anymore, so a lot of dirt directly collects at the filter and because of this, the suction power drops very quick.
Correct. Cyclone inefficiency is a pain in the arse.
Det Anneliese I'm done with my Shark. I noticed even with the filters clean I have to sweep over the area more than once.
Det Anneliese ya that happens with the purple oreck I use it can't Evan pick up some cereals
They were good in the early days, when dyson dominated the market. They're not the same anymore
The old fashioned Electrolux now called Aerus by Electrolux still has the 4 ply paper bag and suction is always great!! The bag has a seal that when you take the bag out of the vacuum you won't spill the dirt out!!
The bad thing about the old and now obsolete bagged vacuum cleaners is the suction would fall quickly as the bag fills up but on bagless vacuum cleaners the vacuum retains suction for a longer period of time
Hi the cyclonic Electrolux one on the left is the same as my mum’s vacuum.She had it for 11 years and still going.
This why they make more jobs than ever
Great demo, I reuse the bags usually 3 to 4 times, just in the process of uploading a video.
I actually do the same thing. It's not recommended, but I haven't noticed any drop in suction when I have re used the old bags. Of course bag bores will get clogged in some point.
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bagged vacuums rule!
But bagless vacuum cleaners are way more common as they don't require bags at all meaning it's less expensive to run them and they also use less electricity and don't lose suction so quickly either
Do not ever buy cyclonic vacuum cleaners!!! I used to have a Hoover with cyclonic system and The filter after 10 minutes of vacuuming clogged up!!!
Choose a bagless for wet and dry or bagged ones!!!!
I see a huge difference I think bagged vacs are better 👍🏼
yep, and bagless are louder than bagged
Look at shark
I thought it was a different video and ik alot about vacuums I fix them but im ruff on my personal vacuum
@@antonkukoba3378 however, bagged vacuum cleaners are virtually obsolete completely and also badly outdated and bagless vacuum cleaners are the norm now and will be in the years to come
@@stephensnell1379 true. Bagged is only appealing to a small amount of people unfortunately.
when a old bagboi works a million times better than new bagless
Actually bagless work even better and last up to 10 years if cared for properly
Also bagless vacuum cleaners are no longer popular anymore for home use and are virtually obsolete
Bagless vacuums will also quieter too and are 100% more effective at picking up dirt
@@stephensnell5707 Dude, stop bullshitting.
I used to have a hoover air steerable noisy bagless vacuum that barely agitates better than a Dyson DC07 and has spartan airflow. Picked up a Lindhaus DP-5 from a thrift store and the suction motor and brushroll motor sounds so much better than the hoover. It left really nice carpet lines and filled up over half the bag just vacuuming what my crappy bagless hoover has left behind plus 2 months of no vacuuming because I cannot stand the little screamer motor in that hoover.
I had Vax air steerable (same as Hoover). It was all the things what you said. Lindhaus is way better and built with quality components 👍
My god! If I emptied that in front of me and used my hand too, I'd puff up like a bag of popcorn in a microwave (or a dust bag in a vacuum).
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i used to have a bagless vacuum and it was a noisy dyson now i have a henryXtra bagged vacuum
ER Trains Yes. Bagged is SO much cleaner to deal with. Also Henry bags are huge, so it takes a long time to fill those up.
Indeed so
@@vacuumtests9225 bagless vacuum cleaners are also clean to empty
When I empty my vacuum cleaner I NEVER MAKE A MESS
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I just want a normal bag vacuum. I have bought 2 bagless vacuums, one cost $250, the other about $120. They work great for a few weeks and then don't suck up anything anymore. They cannot handle my house but bag vacuums are been fine. We have 3 indoor cats and 2 of them are long haired, 2 young children, plus we live on a main road so dust and dirt is always being blown in. I need to vacuum at least twice a week. Problem is, I can't find any old vacuums anymore. It is all these bagless crap vaccums at the shops. And they cost so much.
I know exactly what you mean.
For example my sister has a big house and a lot of pets.
She had a cheap bagless blue Volta (seen in my channel). It was constantly losing suction and clogging. Also filter would have constant cleaning. She just didn't have time to do those messy filter cleaning "sessions".
So I gave her this pink bagged Volta and she is VERY happy now. She said that it's the best vacuum she ever had. Actually She send me thanks messages several times.
I ordered to her package of bags to it. People often don't realize how easy it is to get bags from the internet stores.
You can even get bags to old vacuums easily. Those bags aren't even pricey. Bags come to your mailbox. It can't get easier than that.
So bagged vacuum is must if you wan't to have worry free and effortless vacuum.
I have a Samsung hapless vacuum and I've been using it for 3 years now and it works completely fine eith my 4 bedroom 3 bathroom 2 living room hoise. I have 2 dogs 2 cats. birds and other animals in my house which make a mess. i paied $320 for my vacuum.
PEOPLE are just lazy.
Bagless ones are quieter and less expensive
Stephen Snell
Bagged is still more more sanitary and much better choice for pet owners and especially people with allergies. Plus, most commercial and high vacuums are bagged since they're easier to maintain and usually more reliable.
That's not say bagless are bad but they are messier when emptying and harder to clean.
Bagless vacuum cleaners require maint on the filters after each uses.If your the lazy type get a bagged lot less to clean
i just ordered the shark powered lift away. I prefer an upright. and my place isn't that big, it is all carpet except kitchen and bath. and i can vacuum it all without happening to dump out the canister at all until i am done. If i had a bigger place i would consider a canister with a bag.
You should empty it every time
Shark powered lift away is a fantastic vacuum. It probably have bigger bin than in this Electrolux.
All these filters in bagless design require regular maintenance and cleaning, and also consume more power than bagged machines
Exactly. Filter maintenance is sometimes frustrating and messy. Bagless vacuums also need bigger motor to have same amount of suction than the bagged vacuum with smaller motor.
You are wrong.
Bagless ones are the best.
They have very powerful motors and suck up DIRT very fast and keep it inside altogether until the canister is emptied.
Also they are much less expensive which is what I like about them. I like the AEG BAGLESS HOOVERS.
Bagged performs best
I prefer bagged vacuums bagless clog easy. emptying and washing the filters are a nightmare with a bagless. Bagged vacuums have better suction even when the bag is getting full the suction is still good.
I totally agree with you!
@@vacuumtests9225 but now you rarely can even but bagged vacuum cleaners many people now use bagless vacuum cleaners
@@stephensnell1379 That is very sad.
@@vacuumtests9225 I have a Bush cyclonic vacuum cleaner and it has absolutely fantastic suction to it too and picks up dirt off the floor really quickly too
My Bush cyclonic vacuum cleaner also is bagless as I won't spend £'s on the bagged vacuum cleaners
I find cleaning the filters of bagless vacuum cleaners no trouble at all
try with some fine dust and see how quickly the bag gets clogged! I've used my Dyson for 9 years, it still works great and never required any parts. How much money have I saved in bags since? Particularly if you consider that good 'branded' bags are expensive.
I bought a bagged vacuum for my rented house some time ago. It worked great and I was kind of disappointed that maybe I just wasted money on the Dyson when I purchased it. 3/4 rooms later it clearly lost half of the suction, particularly because I was redecorating and I had lots of plaster dust around. I have vacuumed rubbles with my Dyson and besides having to wash the filter (it's an old model, newer are more efficient) it simply works great. These 'reviews' should be more comprehensive, clearly a bagless won't hold as much dust than a bagged vacuum but that's only one point to be analysed - where are all the others.
Also, that bagless vacuum is crap! If your pre-filter is stuffed with fluff after 2 minutes of use then the 'cyclone' simply does not work. On a Dyson you won't have a spec of dust on the pre-filter after a similar task.
Well one year worth of bags cost around 20€ (5 bags 10€). Not bad at all. Modern high filtration fleece bags don't clog until they are almost full. It takes more than one month until one bag is full. Then there are some other things: All Dyson vacuums are overly noisy (over 80 db) and cyclonic parts get covered with the fine dust. I mean parts what you can't clean. Cyclones can also clog and then you are in big trouble. Emptying the bin is very messy also.
Don't get me wrong. I really like Dyson vacs = styling and best cyclone separation compared to other bagless vacuums. But I wouldn't use them as daily vacuuming.
You should watch my uptaded video: Bagless VS Bagged Vacuum Cleaner (Which one to choose).
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The vacuum I was mentioning came with a fleece bag and it clogged as usual. Not so badly as a paper bag but still does. On that occasion I bought some cheap paper bags while I was redecorating so I didn't have to waste so much money. My Dyson is noisy, agreed. The Cyclone has never clogged. I've dismantled it twice over 10 years and never found anything clogged inside - nor any fine dust which couldn't be cleaned with some hot water, which was harmless anyway. Emptying the bin is not the best thing but with a little attention it's not so bad. I'm not saying that a good Miele is worse than a Dyson, just saying that Dyson's are not as bad as someone would like to picture them.
* I've recently moved house. The new one was in great shape but I emptied 8 canisters of fluff and dirt by vacuuming the carpets. That would have been several bags on a bagged vacuum cleaner.
Without mentioning those cheap vacuum with hepa filters with no gaskets around them and the dust simply goes around the filter's frame!
I'll go check the other video now :) (BTW, are you from Iceland?)
Fleece bags have differences. Some filtrate better than others. Finnish consumer reports tested different vacuums and they reported that for example Electrolux S-Bags didn't lose suction in the test where they vacuumed with the full bag. = plus.google.com/u/0/114579358444767690791/posts/cmZYD8sYwmc?pid=6298020401123628930&oid=114579358444767690791 If you vacuum just a fine dust then suction will drop, but in normal use that's not realistic.
What it comes to dust capasity, bags work differently. They compact the dust so one bag will easilly last one month in the case where you have to empty bagless canister twice a week. Capacity = th-cam.com/video/dSS-sZlEJdM/w-d-xo.htmlm28s
What it comes to Dyson cyclones to clog, youtube has a lot of videos about that = th-cam.com/video/qd2GWNgiAwM/w-d-xo.htmlm48s Nice to hear that yours has worked fine! and I actually enjoy using the bagless vacuum. I am vacuum enthusiast so for me taking good care of the vacuum is fun.
My Electrolux UltraFlex bagless is just a single cyclone vac. Altought the cyclone is so called "high speed one". In normal use the pre motor filter needs to be washed about once in month. I do it more often and wash the bin weekly. Altought only thing that goes to the filter is the very fine dust.
And finally I would love to own DC 41 MKII.
Happy vacuuming! And I am from Finland.
Hello! (I work in Iceland every now and then and you have very similar accent when you speak English!)
Yes, very find dust is not what you usually pick up from the floor but it shows you the potential. In the end that is what is clogging the bags. I also know that there are lots of Dyson around with clogged cyclons, in fact I had to modify mine as the bypass valve would not re-engage once triggered: that would slow down the airflow in the cyclone and cyclones only work when air is FAST. A normal consumer would not realise that and would just keep vacuuming - clogging the pre-motor filter and so on.
I appreciate the practicality of bagged vacuums, but most of the tests online are honestly not very well conducted. I saw a video where a guy was measuring the particles out of a Dyson: he put the particle counter by a hose, but that was BEFORE the motor, so best it could happen it would SUCK air in - not blow out. Anyway, I guess we've been discussed about Vacuum cleaners enough for today! :)
BTW: I cannot really explain how come that clogged Dyson vacuum you linked has clogged like that. The cyclons exaust in a separate chamber where I usually find the finest dust - the coarser is filtered in the canister and coarsely filtered by a plastic filter. Now, I have NEVER-EVER found anything but fine dust in that chamber. If the technology was flawed, I would find some hair or debris or anything that in the long term would clog the cyclons. Never-ever.
I suspect those vacuums are never ever emptied and in the end when they are screaming loud something finds its way through the cyclons...
That bagged vacuum cleaner in this video sounds noisier than the bagless vacuum
To me bagless vacuum cleaners are more efficient and less power hungry and more economical
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I like bagless vacuum cleaners because when I use the carpet powder
I wouldn't recommend bagless vacuums to pick up the carpet powder. That can ruin your vacuum.
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Ok, but now u lost money of 1 bag, we used in our workshop Solac bagless vacuum cleaner, and that filter get clogged up after 3 years of vacuuming microdust and saw dust, if are we used bagged vacuum, we will spend much much money on bags
By the way before we find that vacuum cleaner next to the trash it might be used some years like a normal vacuum. Today it is sitting in the garage and we only vacuum car with it, because now we have got homemade central vacuum in our workshop, which is using bagged vacuum cleaner with reusable bag because capacity, and now, when i vacuum up some fine dust, i hear it does not suck up like before
In normal household use you only need to replace the bag once a month and it's like 2 dollar per bag. Then you got benefit of better airflow/suction, no mess emptying and overall longer lasting vacuum. I have done several videos showing how much better bagged vacuums are. However this only apply to household vacuums. High quality bags don't lose suction until they are very full. th-cam.com/video/qs0kmacc4qQ/w-d-xo.html
This is not a fair test. First of all bagless vacuums have a smaller bin then bagged vacuums. When a bagged vacuum is turned on, the bag expands and can fit more dirt unlike bagless which then in stays the same size as it is turned off. Use a vacuum with a bigger bin and use this volta and I am sure both vacuums will be able to pick it all up.
I am going to do much more detailed video of this subject.
Vacuumtests ok
How does this prove any point 😂😂 every vacuum has a different capacity.
Bagged vacuums compacts the dust and they have at least 10 times more capacity than bagless vacuums.
Normally one canister vacuum bag last at least one full moth in heavy use.
In the bagless vacuums you have to empty the bin every time you have vacuumed the house + regular filter washing is needed time to time.
I personally like both style vacuums, bagged and bagless :)
buying bags every week for 5 years will cost more than the mortgage on your house!
Are you serious? Buying bags every week? Why would anyone do that? One bag lasts EASILY one month and you can order them from the internet. For example whole year worth of bags cost roughly 20€ (23$).
Vacuumtests we have a taxi and a family car. 2 young kids, 3 bedroom house with carpets on both floors and a dog and a cat. we use a vaccum cleaner everyday, sometimes twice in one day. the wet weather here in uk doesn't help.
Nice-oscar, good-oscar, still doesn't equate to a mortgage, but I hear ya. You running a hotel over there? Filling a bag a week? How does one get so much dust and junk in one week? You live by the beach, or something? Even with 5 long hair cats, cereal spilling kids, sand everywhere, vacuuming taxi everyday, family car on weekends, man that's a load of dirt. I would get a good shop vacuum for the taxi, especially, other car, and garage, take that load off your house vac.
First of all bags cost money when it runs out. Second the bags could break pretty easily/rip. And it is not as good. I prefer to get baggles. You could get a shark rocket like me a dyson hover and lots more
It's a personal preference which one people like, bagged or bagless. I like both. Modern fleece bags don't rip unless you use the scissors. Yes they cost money.
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I never had a bag rip, even when I used the cheap ones in my shop vac to suck up broken glass!
Yes you do have to buy them but they hold a lot more dirt than a bagless tank and you can get them pretty cheap online m
It takes a bagged vacuum to clean out a bagless!
Because she is dumb. Why would she clean it to perfection like that, it will get dirty when she use it again. Just empty that shit and plug it in again.
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zina tomuta What?
I made up my mind I chose bagged vacuums
Is that a Dodge Neon on the right?
Now use a Dyson. It'll destroy them both.
+Qasim Mir No it won't , Bagged vacuum will continue when Dyson is full. And Dyson suction power is quite poor anyway and it screams like all Dysons do.
+Vacuumtests Yeah I know Dyson doesn't have as much capacity but the suction on my Dyson is unbelievable. It just turns my 20 year old carpets into brand new ones.
+Qasim Mir I do like the most of the Dyson models. And I want to get some Dyson in the future. Let's take DC39 for example:
+ very good multi cyclone separation
+ design looks nice (futuristic)
+ no loss of suction
+ good tools
- mediocre suction
- loud whiny noise
And something about the older Dyson uprights (before DC41 mkII). Otherwise very nice, but weak brush action & loud).
Electrolux vs Dyson:
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+William Millar Good lord, that child's toy?
Dyson?
The Kirby laughs at Dyson.
i prefere the baggless(water filter) becouse i dont want to buy a bag for a vacuum cleaner and i just dont like it ;)
Nice :)
I use the AEG BAGLESS HOOVER AND MANY AEG BAGLESS HOOVERS COET UNDER £100
Could you vacuum up pebbles, coins, bolts, plastic stuff and cereal with the Volta\Electrolux?
Kwabena Osei Yes I can and I will do video picking up those items.
What do you mean that the FABRIC bag doesn't clog like PAPER ones do? The simple physics of vacuuming says that as soon as dirt enters the bag, regardless of what it's made of, air flow DIMINISHES.
Yes airflow and suction will lower, but so little that it doesn't matter. Clear truth is that fabric bags will keep the suction strong longer. Paper bag pores are much more coarse and it also leak dust to the dust compartment. That's why paper bags are slowly disappearing from the market. You need to watch one of my video. There you can see that even with the VERY full bag suction/airflow is very strong =
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Turbo nozzle runs with suction so how fast it spins tells the change in suction.
The PHYSICS fact is that dirt impedes suction. There is no way around that; especially in a bag. The more dirt blocking the pores, the LESS air goes through, and hence, LESS suction. See for yourself using your SUCTION METER.
Jakob W You are wrong. I have measured it: th-cam.com/video/PUVcsAeSJ6Q/w-d-xo.html&app=desktop
@@MarthaMansbridge What about the Dyson FULL SIZE upright and canister models? My Dyson upright sucks VERY WELL and doesn't need filter cleaning often.
@@vacuumtests9225 I checked it out. At one point, when the dirt was cleaned up, there was a HICCUP, where the same image started anew, like he stopped the recording, did something, (like EMPTY the bag), and then continued ... Hmm ... I wonder if he did (just to prove my point)! Sure is SUSPICIOUS.
Well this didn’t really tell me anything because it wasn’t an even comparison. When you were vacuuming with the bagless one you kept pausing and pulling the nozzle away from the dust pile and only vacuuming around the perimeter of the pile, whereas when u were using the bagged one you were vacuuming normally and without holding back, hence it appeared to be doing a much better job than the first one.
Not sure why u were so clearly putting ur thumb on the scale, nor why no one else in the comments seemed to notice, but it def defeats the purpose of doing a comparison video.
This is old video. Title says in big letters CHECK THE UPDATED VIDEO. So here it is: th-cam.com/video/St-UpXZ_yA8/w-d-xo.html
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Wow
Whats The point in this video?
+iwonabr Just to show the difference between bagged and bagless vacuum.
Bagless is more messy to empty and has much smaller capacity. I accidentally overfilled the bin and it caused filter to get dirty. In normal use filter needs washing about twice a month.
Bagged has large bag and it compacts the dust = Very big capacity. Filter maintenance is minimal, but you have to buy bags.
+Vacuumtests I completely agree with you.
I had to switch back with bags because emptying the bagless released LOTS if dust back in to the air.
I have a shark rocket for a good 5 years and it is all fine and this is all fake
Calling the video fake without explanation why it's fake is stupid. Here is the updated video: th-cam.com/video/St-UpXZ_yA8/w-d-xo.html
The Problem with bagless machines is, that nearly all of them can't handle a large amount of dirt in one pass, cause the separation process doesn't work properly anymore, so a lot of dirt directly collects at the filter and because of this, the suction power drops very quick.
+Sebastian K. Yes exactly