Sue Cook and Nick Ross present. Cases include: The murder of Shani Warren in Maidenhead, a rapist in Stockport and the murder of Helen Fleet in Weston-Super-Mare.
Good to see these again after all the years gone by. Remember sat up watching these with my folks Thursday nights. Proper TV programme, sadly it's crap now on TV.
At last 2day justice has been done 4 Shani. A 66yr old man from Slough has been found guilty at Reading Crown Court. He was found guilty of raping a 16yr old in 1981 aswell.
Also wondered and thought it was strange, why Helen and David, always pretended they are working on paperwork, by running their pens over it, when they went to the incident desk.
Kirstie used to walk around holding a batch of yellow papers and holding a pen. I thought that was a silly prop. What on earth was she doing with them?
@@sophiahudson-ingham3011 Hardly any of the early ones have been solved. I watched them from the beginning, the ones on YT, and almost none of them are solved.
I found one once. Although the paper described me as a lone dog walker, it was actually my two children and I with our two dogs. It was put down as suicide but it’s a neat trick to partially bury oneself.
It's excellent when they tell the audience how naughty the newspapers are (only naughty newspapers, obviously) for drawing attention to cases involving pretty blondes, and it's supremely excellent when they then choose to use melancholic piano tinkles to indicate that the case was especially melancholic. It's also marvellous how the programme is the only one in the Corporation to completely eliminate all one-dimensional demagoguery and political bias, so that their calls for info never repeatedly mention irrelevant and tenuous associations with the suspect named in order to exploit the chance to dispense general ideological slurs. It's also supremely fascinating how some murders of party goers seem far more important than others to the Team, while they have a peculiarly intermittent ability to psychically infer motives.
And I asked myself whether someone else noticed such extracts! An extract from the Hartlepool Raid featured in the programme of 17th March '88 entered in the September '88 intro. Wonder if someone has a complete list? EDIT: in case someone else did, too, I would compare mine: On the intro which was aired between 13th October '87 and 9th June '88, we can see extracts of following reconstructions (in order of appear): the Christopher C. Murder, programme 16th July '87, then, from Lollipop Raid 18th December '86 (though very difficult to identify, you have to watch very closely), then as noticed above from the Helen F. murder. In the intro that followed, used between September '88 and '90, we can see an extract from the Stoke Robberies (programme June 9th, '88), the very same extract from th Christopher C. murder, then, as I wrote above, the moment from the Hartlepool Raid, featured on 17th March '88; next, the running suspect from the Haverford West Assault, seen on 12th May '88, then the glimpse from this episode, finally, another extract from March '88's Crimewatch, i.e. a moment from Arson Attacks. Whereas I am not sure if the helicopter pursuits in the latter intro are not coming from reconstructions, too ...
Trab Ali they were...my first car was a cavalier. This was in 1997 and it was falling apart even then but no matter what happened to it, it stayed on the road!
@@trabali5168 it was a 1983 one - FNK 485Y I think that’s the reg? I was forced to take it to car heaven because I moved abroad and the poor thing was busted.
. Re: Peter Denby (1:53) - "Peter Jonathan Denby, the fugitive London solicitor hunted by police for nearly a year, was arrested yesterday after detectives, acting on a tip-off from the BBC programme Crimewatch, staged a dawn raid on a home in Yorkshire. Denby, a former aide to Enoch Powell and friend of controversial Tory MP Harvey Proctor, was picked up in the town of Richmond, where he had been living under an alias. The 38-year-old solicitor, the nephew of a former president of the Law Society, has been on the run since last June. Scotland Yard want to question him in connection with an incident in Mayfair. After police stopped a hired car on June 3 last year, they were held at gunpoint by two men with Irish accents. The men then fled in the car, which was believed to have been driven by Denby. Denby‘s Islington home was later raided by armed detectives and his Jaguar car, found abandoned in Kent, was blown up by bomb squad officers. The runaway solicitor was arrested in the Westfield district of Richmond, North Yorkshire, at 6am yesterday. Chief Inspector Frank Stockton, of North Yorkshire police, told The Sunday Times last night that the tip-off followed the Crimewatch UK programme which was broadcast last Thursday. ‘Information was received from a member of the public in Richmond suggesting that one of the individuals shown as being wanted in connection with offences of armed robbery in the Metropolitan Police district may have been resident in the Richmond area,’ he said. ‘An operation was mounted by uniformed and CID officers during which the man shown on the television programme, known as Peter Jonathan Denby, was arrested. ‘ Police said Denby had only been in the area for a few weeks. After his arrest, he was transferred to Vine Street police station, London, where he was being questioned last night. During his ten-and-half months on the run, Denby made several calls to Harvey Proctor, the MP for Billericay, Essex. The pair have been friends since they were involved in right-wing politics together at York University in the late 1960s. Later, Denby became private secretary to Enoch Powell in the early 1970s and developed a life-long interest in the Loyalist cause. He then went into practice as one of London’s top legal experts in the specialist area of shipping law, but quickly ran into severe financial problems. He now faces legal bills approaching £500,000. Last year, he was ordered by the High Court to repay to his former clients, the Iranian shipping lines, a bribe of £133,000 which he accepted from Greek shipowners. His former partners in the firm of Lloyd Denby Neal are suing him for more than £250,000 after dissolving the partnership." (Sunday Times, 26th April 1987.) .
Am I missing something obvious? The Shani Warren case was featured on incident desk in April's edition and seemed to have more information? The detective on this, May's, edition said none of her property was missing yet the month before they said that new information had shown that her purse was missing? There are a few more, have a look yourselves and strangely, neither story starts with 'as we showed you last month' Have the episodes just been misnamed? Whatever, love the uploads and the great people in the comments section!
The Alicia murder. Her boots were missing - there have been 2 or 3 murders with missing footwear in the past few episodes and it is the MO of chris halliwell. he was a taxi driver so could be anywhere. after they nabbed him they found his stash of 'trophies'' in a pond he regularly fished at but they never released photos of these personal effects into the public domain. tut! just a thought!
I was dozing off on the couch whilst watching this episode & was shook wide awake when I heard those screams in the Helen Fleet reconstruction, my heart missed a beat for sure.🤤🤤
That's ger accent/dialect many people from working class or lower middle class backgrounds in certain parts of England miss off the s on pounds don't be so stuck up.
@@meggriffin94 I was just about to search for information on Shanni's case. That's great news and shows the police really don't give up on murder cases.
Somebody called John Henry Bell-sadly he went on to rape & murder a woman at the end of the year, he did more sexual offences-including raping & attempting to murder a a 15 year old on a beach in 1992 & got convicted in 1993 via cold case DNA. vlex.co.uk/vid/decision-in-the-case-793860981 www.essexpolicemuseum.org.uk/the-law-archive/n_9311lw.pdf
Mrs Richards: "I paid for a room with a view !" Basil: (pointing to the lovely view) "That is Torquay, Madam ." Mrs Richards: "It's not good enough!" Basil: "May I ask what you were expecting to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window ? Sydney Opera House, perhaps? the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically past?..." Mrs Richards: "Don't be silly! I expect to be able to see the sea!" Basil: "You can see the sea, it's over there between the land and the sky." Mrs Richards: "I'm not satisfied. But I shall stay. But I expect a reduction." Basil: "Why?! Because Krakatoa's not erupting at the moment ?"
Good to see these again after all the years gone by. Remember sat up watching these with my folks Thursday nights. Proper TV programme, sadly it's crap now on TV.
Agreed nothing but crap and repeats on TV . TV licence is a rip off .
Thank you for these uploads - I used to love watching Crimewatch when I was a teenager!
At last 2day justice has been done 4 Shani. A 66yr old man from Slough has been found guilty at Reading Crown Court. He was found guilty of raping a 16yr old in 1981 aswell.
Really?? Bloody hell that’s good. Shows that justice is done sometimes, even if it takes many years.
Thanks for this Redcard, so pleased they arrested the guys who attacked Alan Bray.
Thanks again for your upload redcard74 this episode really gave me nightmares and I didn’t sleep well 😳
It's OK it's 2021 now there All dead now
Also wondered and thought it was strange, why Helen and David, always pretended they are working on paperwork, by running their pens over it, when they went to the incident desk.
Kirstie used to walk around holding a batch of yellow papers and holding a pen. I thought that was a silly prop. What on earth was she doing with them?
The "Mum With Love Xmas 81" necklace looks like it must have been made by same person who made the missing Scotland keyring
Nick Ross and Sue Cook are like the epitome of good decent late 20th century England.
I was never a fan of antiques corner whatever anyway where's my BMX with sky wheels stolen the same year ?
The Helen Fleet case is still unsolved. 😢
Yes. Unlikely to be solved now.
Stealing fireplaces weighing half ton like a boss
Any time CW make reference to a “courting couple” you just know it’s a by-word for “Dogging”
I was just thinking that!
Dogging areas are a bit different to that lay-by. Dogging areas are normally a country park with trails or a secluded car park.
@@HdHd-hp6qz I’ll take ur word for that mate 😉
@@HdHd-hp6qzyou’d know lol
@@HdHd-hp6qz 🤔😂
Monday night retro viewing thank you
I'm so fed up of seeing your doll face....so so tired.
@@nathaniliescu4597 Think they (along with the majority of TH-cam) are fed up of your inane comments.
@@helencompton3320 definitely.
@@helencompton3320 its a strange person .. i block this freaks account every time it opens a new one .
Mugs
Wow just wow thank you 🙏 Xx
I remember Helen’s murder well. Sadly it is still unsolved.
Such a sad case. Totally motiveless and unnecessary. Poor Helen.
This case FREAKS me right out
So many from the 80s are still unsolved.
@@treasurehunteruk9718 forensics finally catching up with a lot of the 80s cases now
@@sophiahudson-ingham3011 Hardly any of the early ones have been solved. I watched them from the beginning, the ones on YT, and almost none of them are solved.
The buzzwords at the end. These crimes are few and far between, don’t have nightmares. How times have changed.
Indeed. Crime is now so much lower than it was back then. As of 2023, crime hit its all time lowest level.
That home hammer attack is scary. Destroyed my sense of safety for the night. Will be sleeping with a knife next to me.
Don't have nightmares . . . Do sleep well.
Lol
Don't do that, you're more likely to hurt yourself.
The month and year my dad died, I was only 10... memories lost in time. Here's to you dad
Love your channel
How many bodies are found by people walking a dog?
37
I found one once. Although the paper described me as a lone dog walker, it was actually my two children and I with our two dogs. It was put down as suicide but it’s a neat trick to partially bury oneself.
think i'll qass on the dog ownershiq then
Not just that but why do they all think the body is a tailors dummy? How many tailors dummy do you see dumped in ditches 🤷🏻♂️😳
There’s a few. There’s nobody, somebody, anybody.
Sounds like it was Clive Barwell, but then there were several such men operating at the time, some of whom probably were never caught.
Been solved now and it wasn’t him
Nice one Redcard, thanks so much once again!!
Probably the same person who fitted the marble fireplace was the culprit.
perfect time for dinner
its nice in 2021 that armed robberies are becoming essentially pointless. #cashlesssociety
I was nearly 7 and my teacher had a mullet
It's excellent when they tell the audience how naughty the newspapers are (only naughty newspapers, obviously) for drawing attention to cases involving pretty blondes, and it's supremely excellent when they then choose to use melancholic piano tinkles to indicate that the case was especially melancholic.
It's also marvellous how the programme is the only one in the Corporation to completely eliminate all one-dimensional demagoguery and political bias, so that their calls for info never repeatedly mention irrelevant and tenuous associations with the suspect named in order to exploit the chance to dispense general ideological slurs.
It's also supremely fascinating how some murders of party goers seem far more important than others to the Team, while they have a peculiarly intermittent ability to psychically infer motives.
Hey if I was going to kill myself by growing is going my hands and feet behind my back and gag myself you know the usually thing people do
6:25 Even the couple of seconds after this made me jump out of my skin…
Cheers
35:22 - later seen on the intros that debuted on the October 1987 program.
And I asked myself whether someone else noticed such extracts! An extract from the Hartlepool Raid featured in the programme of 17th March '88 entered in the September '88 intro. Wonder if someone has a complete list?
EDIT: in case someone else did, too, I would compare mine:
On the intro which was aired between 13th October '87 and 9th June '88, we can see extracts of following reconstructions (in order of appear): the Christopher C. Murder, programme 16th July '87, then, from Lollipop Raid 18th December '86 (though very difficult to identify, you have to watch very closely), then as noticed above from the Helen F. murder.
In the intro that followed, used between September '88 and '90, we can see an extract from the Stoke Robberies (programme June 9th, '88), the very same extract from th Christopher C. murder, then, as I wrote above, the moment from the Hartlepool Raid, featured on 17th March '88; next, the running suspect from the Haverford West Assault, seen on 12th May '88, then the glimpse from this episode, finally, another extract from March '88's Crimewatch, i.e. a moment from Arson Attacks. Whereas I am not sure if the helicopter pursuits in the latter intro are not coming from reconstructions, too ...
@@croqueGrec09 Someone needs to get our more!
them cavalier's were very reliable, dont know what happened here though
Trab Ali gearbox shifter slipped.
Trab Ali they were...my first car was a cavalier. This was in 1997 and it was falling apart even then but no matter what happened to it, it stayed on the road!
@@misplacedkiwi9498 what a mk2 cavalier?
I had three Mk2 Cavaliers. Loved them. So easy to work on.
@@trabali5168 it was a 1983 one - FNK 485Y I think that’s the reg? I was forced to take it to car heaven because I moved abroad and the poor thing was busted.
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Re: Peter Denby (1:53) -
"Peter Jonathan Denby, the fugitive London solicitor hunted by police for nearly a year, was arrested yesterday after detectives, acting on a tip-off from the BBC programme Crimewatch, staged a dawn raid on a home in Yorkshire.
Denby, a former aide to Enoch Powell and friend of controversial Tory MP Harvey Proctor, was picked up in the town of Richmond, where he had been living under an alias. The 38-year-old solicitor, the nephew of a former president of the Law Society, has been on the run since last June.
Scotland Yard want to question him in connection with an incident in Mayfair. After police stopped a hired car on June 3 last year, they were held at gunpoint by two men with Irish accents. The men then fled in the car, which was believed to have been driven by Denby.
Denby‘s Islington home was later raided by armed detectives and his Jaguar car, found abandoned in Kent, was blown up by bomb squad officers.
The runaway solicitor was arrested in the Westfield district of Richmond, North Yorkshire, at 6am yesterday.
Chief Inspector Frank Stockton, of North Yorkshire police, told The Sunday Times last night that the tip-off followed the Crimewatch UK programme which was broadcast last Thursday.
‘Information was received from a member of the public in Richmond suggesting that one of the individuals shown as being wanted in connection with offences of armed robbery in the Metropolitan Police district may have been resident in the Richmond area,’ he said.
‘An operation was mounted by uniformed and CID officers during which the man shown on the television programme, known as Peter Jonathan Denby, was arrested. ‘
Police said Denby had only been in the area for a few weeks. After his arrest, he was transferred to Vine Street police station, London, where he was being questioned last night.
During his ten-and-half months on the run, Denby made several calls to Harvey Proctor, the MP for Billericay, Essex.
The pair have been friends since they were involved in right-wing politics together at York University in the late 1960s.
Later, Denby became private secretary to Enoch Powell in the early 1970s and developed a life-long interest in the Loyalist cause. He then went into practice as one of London’s top legal experts in the specialist area of shipping law, but quickly ran into severe financial problems.
He now faces legal bills approaching £500,000. Last year, he was ordered by the High Court to repay to his former clients, the Iranian shipping lines, a bribe of £133,000 which he accepted from Greek shipowners.
His former partners in the firm of Lloyd Denby Neal are suing him for more than £250,000 after dissolving the partnership."
(Sunday Times, 26th April 1987.)
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Am I missing something obvious? The Shani Warren case was featured on incident desk in April's edition and seemed to have more information? The detective on this, May's, edition said none of her property was missing yet the month before they said that new information had shown that her purse was missing? There are a few more, have a look yourselves and strangely, neither story starts with 'as we showed you last month' Have the episodes just been misnamed?
Whatever, love the uploads and the great people in the comments section!
Cops didn't do a great job let's face it
The Alicia murder. Her boots were missing - there have been 2 or 3 murders with missing footwear in the past few episodes and it is the MO of chris halliwell. he was a taxi driver so could be anywhere. after they nabbed him they found his stash of 'trophies'' in a pond he regularly fished at but they never released photos of these personal effects into the public domain. tut! just a thought!
I also think that more details regarding the case became available, so a proper reconstruction was made.
Been solved now guys ,forensics finally put the suicide theory to rest and her killer behind bars
@@sophiahudson-ingham3011they said they never thought it was suicide
Sue is looking son hot
Such a babe
I was dozing off on the couch whilst watching this episode & was shook wide awake when I heard those screams in the Helen Fleet reconstruction, my heart missed a beat for sure.🤤🤤
@@nathaniliescu4597 you still harassing people weirdo? U are a strange un 4 sure 🙄
@@trishg151 Just a sad case.🤔
@@trishg151 yes i think he needs to be sectioned THE TWAT
Oh my gawd
Why does WPC Helen not put a plural on the £ value of things? It really irks me 😂
Agreed sir
Was about to write the same how hard is it to say pounds.
She does have a slight speech impediment. Surprised she got the gig.
@@Mrrobackenson1no she doesn’t you lot don’t half talk about petty shit
That's ger accent/dialect many people from working class or lower middle class backgrounds in certain parts of England miss off the s on pounds don't be so stuck up.
Shani Warren murder solved in 2020.
Shanni warren is still unsolved
Think it has recently been solved
@@jameslock9275 yep a man has been charged today
@@meggriffin94 he was imprisoned in 2011 for a rape he committed the same year as the murder.
@@meggriffin94 He goes on trial in a few days' time.
@@meggriffin94 I was just about to search for information on Shanni's case. That's great news and shows the police really don't give up on murder cases.
36:05 did the man in the anorak actually walk behind her in that moment or is that just added in for dramatic effect?
Why ask us mate
It's weird she has her back to him but in the reconstructions they try and be as accurate as possible.
Eyyy Weston gang 🤙🏻
30:49 A relative of mine
SnitchNox Nick Ross ?
@@09weenic Helen Fleet
@@Fleeticus oh sorry
The photo fits are pathetic but they work 😂 😂 😂
Wonder if the Stockport rapist was Andrew Timblin
Somebody called John Henry Bell-sadly he went on to rape & murder a woman at the end of the year, he did more sexual offences-including raping & attempting to murder a a 15 year old on a beach in 1992 & got convicted in 1993 via cold case DNA.
vlex.co.uk/vid/decision-in-the-case-793860981
www.essexpolicemuseum.org.uk/the-law-archive/n_9311lw.pdf
I stopped armed robberies long ago. Lol can't beat a good one.
Helen Phelps is HOTT🔥
Scooby once Scooby twice
35:13 Yodel-oh-ee-dee
Diddly-odel-oh-ee-dee
Diddly-odel-oh-ee-dee Yodel-oh-ee-dee-ay-dee
Yodel-oh-ee-dee-yodel-oh-dee
prick
Poor sense of humour if you saw the "funny" side of it.
Mrs Richards: "I paid for a room with a view !"
Basil: (pointing to the lovely view) "That is Torquay, Madam ."
Mrs Richards: "It's not good enough!"
Basil: "May I ask what you were expecting to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window ? Sydney Opera House, perhaps? the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically past?..."
Mrs Richards: "Don't be silly! I expect to be able to see the sea!"
Basil: "You can see the sea, it's over there between the land and the sky."
Mrs Richards: "I'm not satisfied. But I shall stay. But I expect a reduction."
Basil: "Why?! Because Krakatoa's not erupting at the moment ?"
Why? Every video, what is the point of this? No relevance whatsoever.