As a Canadian that never had a chance to watch these episodes before, discovering all these creepy and tragic cases one by one is a fantastic thrill. Big thanks! 😊
Anyone else watching this in 2019? It's so strange how so much has changed with regards to this show. It's from the 80's and is still interesting and fascinating to watch. Time seems to have really sped up over the past few years. Thanks for uploading and sharing my friend.
If Crimewatch was still going and they said ‘we are looking for a person who stole a number of old recordings of Crimewatch’ I wouldn’t call in - sorry Nick and Sue!
I've been watching these old episodes so much lately that someday's, I imagine I'm living in an 80's Crimewatch reconstruction and I have Nick Ross's voice in my head narrating what I am doing. Is that normal?
Totally normal. I find myself doing that too. "He got off the train at 6pm and what happened next we can only speculate. At about 6.15, a man matching his description was seen by a man driving his car".
Thank you so much for these videos. Feel really sorry for all the lives lost. I started watching as i like crime investigations but i got caught up, as i was fascinated to see the changes Uk went through as i only live here for 10y. The evolution of Tv , the use of CCTV for the first time which was huge to Police as a evidence , the fashion evolution, Cars, the buildings , streets , etc.... AMAZING !!
I can't believe the police were appealing for the bus driver to come forward, surely all they needed to do was phone London transport with the date and they would have a record of who was driving the bus on that day, even in 1988
Scott - this puzzled me, too. Although it turned out that the bus journey had nothing to do with the crime, information like this would have been easily available as far back as the 1960s.
It was addressed in another episode of crimewatch. Apparently all the bus drivers they spoke to denied any knowledge of the events in question. The police were as bemused by it as everyone else.
@@janettemohan5056 It was addressed in another episode of crimewatch. Apparently all the bus drivers they spoke to denied any knowledge of the events in question. The police were as bemused by it as everyone else.
I’m a bus driver: I don’t work in London and I’m not sure what it was like back in the day but whenever a crime is committed and the suspect/victim is on our bus, they can easily trace which driver it was etc if they are low frequency routes. Higher frequency routes can be a bit more tricky but all buses have cctv so they’d be able to check that.
Sad that poor lady kathy had a daughter and she had to go to her home to bath etc. I know kids lead their own lives but this is sad very upsetting to see. RIP Kathy.
@@slydoll7877 I know you shouldn't speak ill of the dead, but she did drink, smoke and gamble. Probably put all those things before paying the bills. I'd imagine she was more lonely than poor, which is a shame.
@@wearecity and was a bit of a ponce it would seem. And a possibly secretive individual. Not someone I would've been very fond of - I think I would very likely have been a victim of her advantage taking. Maybe that's why she was murdered??
ive been watching this every night. And it’s reassuring to know that the ones who thought they got away with it at the time ended up getting caught 20 years later via dna.
Maybe the murderer did it because she took advantage of people?? I would have been *very* susceptible to somebody like her, and would find it difficult to say "no". I'll bet you she had *plenty* of enemies.
Again, police showing up unarmed.. SMH. I’m sorry but that whole trying to rob the armored truck was hilarious. The guy inside knocking their tools back outside...I laughed out loud.
Yes these reconstructions are fascinating but I know what you mean so many people struggle with social interaction and have money troubles. London is a wonderful city to live in but can be very lonely. Tommy from Peckham.
Remember at the end, Nick Ross would say “ crimes like these are extremely rare, don’t have nightmares” He couldn’t say that now, it’s a daily occurrence.
I subscribe to our community police newsletter. EVERY day I receive emails of either a burglary or theft of a vehicle or its contents or several of all of the above. Many of them in streets close to my own home. My son's car was even broken into a few months ago & most of the contents was stolen. Not even scratched the surface, loads of drug Crime & crimes against children. Crime around here is hideously high. So many murders too it leaves me a ghast. And the county I live in is meant to be a safe area??!! God help us all!
That was disturbing in the Kathy Walsh reconstruction when the neighbour hears her screams but I wonder why that neighbour didn't call the police?? Referring to the Lynda Hunter case I live in Glenrothes where her parents lived.
All night Mike yes he was a mixed up bastard. He had a gay lover , he was having sex with a junkie prostitute and married to Lynda at the same time . He died of a heart attack in prison in 1993
Quite an odd episode order . 5-6 cases on incident desk including 3 murders . Strange why the BIrmingham double murder wasn’t a full reconstruction. Finishing an episode with photo fit quite unique too
A mere 7 years for killing poor Edwina Walsh. Christopher OReilly killed his landlady Edwina Walsh (Kathy Walsh) 60 who he strangled after she kept nagging him. After killing her on 21 October 1987 he had returned to Ireland. He was first questioned in Ireland in November 1987 but denied all knowledge of the event but when he was later questioned after police found a finger print near where she had died he broke down and confessed.
Correct, DW. Her full name was Edwina Kathleen Walsh. The benefits book shown at 10:30 has "MS. EDWINA K. WALSH" printed on the cover, along with her address. Any confusion could be understandable due to the fact that another UK killer named Christopher O'Reilly was jailed in 2012 for approximately the same number of years as the O'Reilly who was responsible for the "manslaughter" of Kathy Walsh. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-18206180 The cases are unconnected.
It amazes me how many comments are about how they love watching these episodes yet appear void of any empathy for the victims. Its as though they're oblivious to the fact they were very real crimes with traumatic & often fatal consequences. They're not snippets of soap operas fgs.
with Sue Cook and Nick Ross It is nearly four months since 60-year-old Kathy Walsh was murdered in her south London flat. Detectives are hoping the reconstruction of her last known movements could prompt viewers to shed new light on the crime. Who was the young, fair-haired man who arranged to meet Kathy the day before she died? What happened to her DHSS allowance book and where is the brown car that was seen outside her flat the night of the murder? In Oxford, last December, an armed hold-up of a security van went badly wrong. Hundreds of shoppers looked on as the gang shot at a police car before fleeing empty-handed. They left behind crucial clues. Fiona Gallant , a teenager from Colchester, was murdered on 18 December last year. She was last seen talking to the driver of a distinctive lorry. Fifteen witnesses have helped compile a picture of the vehicle which viewers may identify. If you can help, call Crimewatch UK on [number removed]any time from 9.30pm until midnight. Studio director PIETER MORPURGO Producer PETER GRIMSDALE Editor RITCHIE COGAN (Crimewatch Update at 11.40pm) Details on Ceefax page 186
I feel for Kathy but she didn’t really help herself in some ways. Spent money on cigarettes and alcohol and bingo, but often didn’t pay her bills or bus fare.
I find the reconstructions really delve so deep. .it's kinda intrusive but really entertaining, she smoked drank played bingo, nothing wrong with that a lot more people smoked then
Christopher O Reilly killed her. Only did 7 years for it. Apparently he was also lodging with her (which want mentioned) he was the young lad she was seen with
Police can have a tendency to ESCALATE situations. And they're not "GOD" (in other words, they're not the be all and end all). That's the EPITOME of an unthinking mentality - calling in somebody who DOESN'T think, to decide on other peoples' lives! 😡 You don't think advocating for that idea is sensible do you??
With the car being in Manchester it couldn't be the husband - or could it. Drove to manchester and got the train back after dumping the car on double yellows.
MM0SDK the police proved the theory that he could drive to Manchester and return to Carnoustie within the times he was unaccounted for . Anyway the bastard is dead now - good riddance RIP Lynda
It was a lodger she had....Christopher OReilly aged 21. Strange the police didn't mention that she had other lodgers on the reconstruction....he killed her because she kept "nagging him: I suspect he didn't pay his rent regularly and that he was the young man she was seen talking to. When her friend thought she was arranging to see him on Tuesday, she was probably telling him that was when he needed to pay rent...or he was promising to pay it then.
Strange ! He says , I'd say it's strange , they were hoping the bus driver would come forward , why was the driver not identified by the bus company rota .
@@robbo391 it's ok, don't worry. I know what it's like being such a dare devil & living life on the edge....of my seat (!) as a fellow Crimewatch "fan" 😉
Over 100 members of the public watching only two try to do something one sharply thinking gentleman taking the keys another brave person blocking the route with his van if even rest of the public tried throwing their shoe at them it would of disorientated them
The murder of the sisters from Sparkhill, Brimingham was sickening. Saprkhill is now all but destroyed by immigration from the sub continent. The area is 98% foreign. A dreadful place now.
Doyle is an Irish name. You clearly got to sparkbrook by some kind of immigration by your family. Amazing how hypocritical some people are. You are the product of immigration.
@@gujh03 We excreted and cultivated your resources with our expertise and knowledge. We made your countries civilised and educated. For that you ought to be thankful.
@@Bloxdio_God haha typical coward who cannot say it to directly but has to resort to a keyboard behind a screen. You're in the same category of racis@ts that taunt those English players for missing a penalty. The Indian subcontinent was a lot advanced that you think. Expertise and knowledge ? more like using slaves with guns. Another thing we can teach you is karma and its happening now and will do for many generations. Enjoy multicultural Britain !
@@Bloxdio_God Ironically, the shop where the sisters were murdered is now an Islamic cultural centre, believe it or not. The demographic profile of the area has completely changed since 1987.
Music always gets me .. used to turn it off right when he said crime is at an all time low so please dont have nightmares. Click... then bed.. and would still have nightmares.🤦🏾♂️🤡😂
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Anyone else feel these old CW shows are 1000x better than modern American crime shows with all their big budgets?
Good gawd yes!!
Definately!!!!!!!!! 100%
As a Canadian that never had a chance to watch these episodes before, discovering all these creepy and tragic cases one by one is a fantastic thrill. Big thanks! 😊
plenty of unsolved murders as im sure there is in Canada.
I love Canada. You’re all such lovely people. Tim Hortons is amazing. Used to go to Hamilton a lot
Anybody else pause the videos to Google search the cases lol
Yeah I do, just to know things are solved and settled
Yeah
Yes I always want to find out if the cases were solved Xx
@@katemissfilanpurrmcdevitt it's sad to see so many were unsolved 😢
Yes
Anyone else watching this in 2019? It's so strange how so much has changed with regards to this show. It's from the 80's and is still interesting and fascinating to watch.
Time seems to have really sped up over the past few years. Thanks for uploading and sharing my friend.
beyond recognition
not really something are still the same. I do like watching them to see how life was like.
Mate I’m watching it in 2021
Same here love it
Watching it in may 2023
If Crimewatch was still going and they said ‘we are looking for a person who stole a number of old recordings of Crimewatch’ I wouldn’t call in - sorry Nick and Sue!
lol
😩😩😩😩😩😩😩
Crime watch is still going isn’t it ? 😂😂😂
I've been watching these old episodes so much lately that someday's, I imagine I'm living in an 80's Crimewatch reconstruction and I have Nick Ross's voice in my head narrating what I am doing. Is that normal?
Ha, ha me too.
Same in my half dream half awake mode i hear Nick lol
Totally normal. I find myself doing that too. "He got off the train at 6pm and what happened next we can only speculate. At about 6.15, a man matching his description was seen by a man driving his car".
No see a Doctor
I do it too!
Thank you so much for these videos. Feel really sorry for all the lives lost. I started watching as i like crime investigations but i got caught up, as i was fascinated to see the changes Uk went through as i only live here for 10y. The evolution of Tv , the use of CCTV for the first time which was huge to Police as a evidence , the fashion evolution, Cars, the buildings , streets , etc.... AMAZING !!
what about mobiles and dna testing.
I am enjoying these programmes but i feel sad for all these people that time forgot ! Anyone know what i mean ?
I Google them a lot.. Sometimes I find out who or what happened but all too often there is nothing.
unsolved murders. there are plenty of them.
PRO PAINTER PRO DEC too many
loved watching Crimewatch on weekday evenings
Especially the missing children , who barely made the news but we are all still talking about Madeline McCann , still find that sad
I will have nightmares and won't sleep well Thank You!
leave the light on in the bathroom and keep the shotgun loaded.
Then watch out. Nick Ross is coming for you. You don't just disobey his direct orders.
don't eat cheese before bedtime!
@@MsVanorakespecially not ripe Stilton …
Nice neighbor. Hears someone screaming, so she leaves the milk bottles out and does nothing.
If I called the police, every time I heard someone scream or a possible disturbance, in my area, I'd be calling them daily.
welcome to London
She probably knew that if she couldnt pinpoint exactly where the screams were coming from the police wouldnt care.
@@StephenH-ms9ogThat is a pathetic excuse.
@@wearecityWow, you must live in a really bad neighborhood. Sorry you can't afford better.
You wouldn't get cash strapped people owning houses in Tooting now. They'd sell it and make a fortune.
Nice one redcard, thanks for keeping the CW community together :)
I can't believe the police were appealing for the bus driver to come forward, surely all they needed to do was phone London transport with the date and they would have a record of who was driving the bus on that day, even in 1988
Scott - this puzzled me, too. Although it turned out that the bus journey had nothing to do with the crime, information like this would have been easily available as far back as the 1960s.
It was addressed in another episode of crimewatch. Apparently all the bus drivers they spoke to denied any knowledge of the events in question. The police were as bemused by it as everyone else.
@@janettemohan5056 It was addressed in another episode of crimewatch. Apparently all the bus drivers they spoke to denied any knowledge of the events in question. The police were as bemused by it as everyone else.
@@zeddeka but if they know which bus it was and on what date, then there must be a record of the driver. So surely it's a case of looking at records
I’m a bus driver: I don’t work in London and I’m not sure what it was like back in the day but whenever a crime is committed and the suspect/victim is on our bus, they can easily trace which driver it was etc if they are low frequency routes. Higher frequency routes can be a bit more tricky but all buses have cctv so they’d be able to check that.
Oh yes! You always deliver! Much appreciated - just in time to give me nightmares.
“A rather sad woman in some ways.” Omg the savagery 😭 The woman has passed Sue, be nice!
Yes I agree out of all the presenters I find her rather cold and detached ...Jill had empathy and concern
I think "sad" didn't have the meaning back then of "pathetic" like it does now. It had more of the meaning of unhappy and unfortunate.
Sad that poor lady kathy had a daughter and she had to go to her home to bath etc.
I know kids lead their own lives but this is sad very upsetting to see.
RIP Kathy.
Shocking. You'd think that if your Mum was that poor, you'd invite her to live with you!
@@slydoll7877 I know you shouldn't speak ill of the dead, but she did drink, smoke and gamble. Probably put all those things before paying the bills. I'd imagine she was more lonely than poor, which is a shame.
@@wearecity and was a bit of a ponce it would seem.
And a possibly secretive individual.
Not someone I would've been very fond of - I think I would very likely have been a victim of her advantage taking.
Maybe that's why she was murdered??
@@letsdiscussitoversometea8479🤨
@@lnteIIigence "🤨" what??
ive been watching this every night. And it’s reassuring to know that the ones who thought they got away with it at the time ended up getting caught 20 years later via dna.
Naa most are still unsolved
"The men both wore trainers". Well that narrows it down a bit. I wonder if the raiders were the chuckle brothers.
Trying to think back 30 plus years-might be most people wore shoes back then.
No interviewed eliminated not involved safe to eliminate, thanks for your concern 👀👍
😃😅🤣
@@Hi-kq1vi not necessarily. By the 80s most youngish folk wore trainers then.
‘You Win Again’ by the Bee Gees on the jukey in the pub.
One of my favourites.
Top tune!
Irish Countryman tune
stfitness released in October/November 1987 - I remember that time well
The actress playing Kathy Walsh, the screams horrify me. The real Kathy must have suffered terribly. Poor woman. Evil shit who done it
Maybe the murderer did it because she took advantage of people??
I would have been *very* susceptible to somebody like her, and would find it difficult to say "no".
I'll bet you she had *plenty* of enemies.
@@letsdiscussitoversometea8479 pardon?! She still didn't deserve that!
Asking for help in bad times is not taking advantage.
3:48 the news beat theme provided inspiration for the intro for Too Many Broken Hearts by Jason Donovan about a year later
Again, police showing up unarmed.. SMH. I’m sorry but that whole trying to rob the armored truck was hilarious. The guy inside knocking their tools back outside...I laughed out loud.
i had a ford escort van and you could use whatever came to hand in the ignition to start it - metal nail file, penknife, puff of breath, whatever! :)
Trouble is, no innocent person ever gets over having a gun waved in their face no matter now incompetent the armed robber is.
Christopher OReilly killed his landlady Edwina Walsh (Kathy Walsh) 60 who he strangled after she kept nagging him. He served 7 years
Actually disgusting
Yes these reconstructions are fascinating but I know what you mean so many people struggle with social interaction and have money troubles. London is a wonderful city to live in but can be very lonely. Tommy from Peckham.
whats wonderful about it?
Remember at the end, Nick Ross would say “ crimes like these are extremely rare, don’t have nightmares” He couldn’t say that now, it’s a daily occurrence.
its out of control now, even the police admit they have lost control of the streets, scary stuff.
in London?
I subscribe to our community police newsletter. EVERY day I receive emails of either a burglary or theft of a vehicle or its contents or several of all of the above. Many of them in streets close to my own home. My son's car was even broken into a few months ago & most of the contents was stolen. Not even scratched the surface, loads of drug Crime & crimes against children. Crime around here is hideously high. So many murders too it leaves me a ghast. And the county I live in is meant to be a safe area??!! God help us all!
It was pointless him saying it then. Cliched catchphrase.
COME OVER FOR A BATH, ITS SENTENCES Like THAT GOT ME IN TROUBLE WITH THE POLICE LAST TIME
Lolol
Lo L - that sollicitor having his secretary call and telling her the words !
Auto pilot 😅
That was disturbing in the Kathy Walsh reconstruction when the neighbour hears her screams but I wonder why that neighbour didn't call the police??
Referring to the Lynda Hunter case I live in Glenrothes where her parents lived.
All night Mike yes he was a mixed up bastard. He had a gay lover , he was having sex with a junkie prostitute and married to Lynda at the same time . He died of a heart attack in prison in 1993
A lot of people don't want to get involved.
@@muls9571 So, they won't be helped when it's their turn to die.
Nicks quote at the end,burglaries decreasing,and look at them now,sky high.very sad.
Oxford robbery was a classic. Local people did everything to stop the bad guys.
Quite an odd episode order . 5-6 cases on incident desk including 3 murders . Strange why the BIrmingham double murder wasn’t a full reconstruction. Finishing an episode with photo fit quite unique too
A mere 7 years for killing poor Edwina Walsh.
Christopher OReilly killed his landlady Edwina Walsh (Kathy Walsh) 60 who he strangled after she kept nagging him.
After killing her on 21 October 1987 he had returned to Ireland. He was first questioned in Ireland in November 1987 but denied all knowledge of the event but when he was later questioned after police found a finger print near where she had died he broke down and confessed.
i felt so sorry for her wonder why he daughter never had her old ill mother staying with her ...
Well that’s not the same case at all
@@lukewilly yes it is. She was called Edwina but went by a shortened version of her middle name, Kathleen
Her daughter could have paid her gas bill rather than inviting her round for a bath.
Correct, DW. Her full name was Edwina Kathleen Walsh. The benefits book shown at 10:30 has "MS. EDWINA K. WALSH" printed on the cover, along with her address.
Any confusion could be understandable due to the fact that another UK killer named Christopher O'Reilly was jailed in 2012 for approximately the same number of years as the O'Reilly who was responsible for the "manslaughter" of Kathy Walsh.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-18206180
The cases are unconnected.
It amazes me how many comments are about how they love watching these episodes yet appear void of any empathy for the victims. Its as though they're oblivious to the fact they were very real crimes with traumatic & often fatal consequences. They're not snippets of soap operas fgs.
Why didn’t Cathy go and live with her daughter?
Perhaps her daughter lived in a flat, or maybe Kathy was a proud lady who didn't like asking for help
Some people like to maintain their independence and not rely on others...
Selena L'Estrange you’re right ( a part from asking the local shop keepers) don’t think she admitted she needed help I felt so sorry for her Zz
She clearly didn't want to. What an odd question.
Kathy was strangled by another of her lodgers Chris O’reily. He confessed in 1987 and was released in 1996
Oxford in the 1980's, I used to work in George Street. Thanks redcard74 for the uploads, it is appreciated.
Surprised Morse didn't solve it.
He was away on holiday that weeek.
Geroge
with Sue Cook and Nick Ross It is nearly four months since 60-year-old Kathy Walsh was murdered in her south
London flat. Detectives are hoping the reconstruction of her last known movements could prompt viewers to shed new light on the crime. Who was the young, fair-haired man who arranged to meet Kathy the day before she died? What happened to her DHSS allowance book and where is the brown car that was seen outside her flat the night of the murder?
In Oxford, last December, an armed hold-up of a security van went badly wrong.
Hundreds of shoppers looked on as the gang shot at a police car before fleeing empty-handed. They left behind crucial clues.
Fiona Gallant , a teenager from Colchester, was murdered on 18 December last year. She was last seen talking to the driver of a distinctive lorry. Fifteen witnesses have helped compile a picture of the vehicle which viewers may identify.
If you can help, call Crimewatch UK on [number removed]any time from 9.30pm until midnight. Studio director PIETER MORPURGO Producer PETER GRIMSDALE Editor RITCHIE COGAN
(Crimewatch Update at 11.40pm) Details on Ceefax page 186
Nick Ross laughing at the bungling armed blaggers on the pavement. priceless.
And being slapped down by the policeman "Mr Ross..."
I hate seeing people short of mony and going without. Even in this modern world people,are still struggling with the cost of living.
Was so eargerly awaiting this upload thank you so much redcard74😆
I'm glad I wasn't the only one haha!
Me too!!!
Me too... i wanted to witness the net closing in on Lynda Hunter's hubby.
I feel for Kathy but she didn’t really help herself in some ways. Spent money on cigarettes and alcohol and bingo, but often didn’t pay her bills or bus fare.
I find the reconstructions really delve so deep. .it's kinda intrusive but really entertaining, she smoked drank played bingo, nothing wrong with that a lot more people smoked then
Who cares what Kathy's lifestyle was?!
This poor woman was murdered and that should never have happened.
I want to understand why they never covered the case of Helen Mccourt which happened on Febraury 9th when she was lured and murdered into a pub
Because there was no mystery over who killed Helen. The police knew early on.
the murder was solved the landlord killed her and he never said what he did with her body
kathys daughter was a no mark letting her old mum live like that
I’ve noticed that Helen Phelps’ hair grows very quickly!
Yes I did wonder about her grooming habits.
@@waynemarshall272What’s the deal with Susie’s hair, then?
they wont let you on the bus these days without paying
We moved up to Lincoln from London in December 1987. So sad a poor unwell old lady was killed like that did they ever catch her killer? I was 6 then.
Christopher O Reilly killed her. Only did 7 years for it. Apparently he was also lodging with her (which want mentioned) he was the young lad she was seen with
I used to live in Renmuir Street not far away: but in 2001-3. The Railway Bell was my local.
@@JC-ss7xy "
@@JC-ss7xy Funny they didn’t know she had more than one lodger!
@@JC-ss7xy DONT LIE where is your proof
If you hear screaming like that why would you not call the police?
Police can have a tendency to ESCALATE situations.
And they're not "GOD" (in other words, they're not the be all and end all).
That's the EPITOME of an unthinking mentality - calling in somebody who DOESN'T think, to decide on other peoples' lives! 😡
You don't think advocating for that idea is sensible do you??
Gets better and better thank you Xx
So she struggled for money, had no gas but she was in the pub!
It baffles when people say they have no money but can find money to smoke and drink.
Smoking is costly.
Two lodgers and the gas disconnected......patient lodgers
and smoked and played bingo, but didn't have any money for the bus fare.
Mind your business.
The actress who plays Kathy Walsh's daughter is Julia Roberts of QVCUK fame
That milkman was a bit nosey! The beak on the fella was something fierce!
lynda was killed by her husband
With the car being in Manchester it couldn't be the husband - or could it.
Drove to manchester and got the train back after dumping the car on double yellows.
Mark Bartlett he was convicted of the murder ...
We don't care you slag
MM0SDK the police proved the theory that he could drive to Manchester and return to Carnoustie within the times he was unaccounted for . Anyway the bastard is dead now - good riddance RIP Lynda
@@nathaniliescu4597 If you don't why are you watching Crimewatch?🤷♀️
I really hope that the killer of Cathy was/or will be found :(. Why wasn’t the police called when the screaming was heard? Such a sweet lady, rip ❤️
The murderer was caught and sentenced in 1989. He served just 7 years...
It was a lodger she had....Christopher OReilly aged 21. Strange the police didn't mention that she had other lodgers on the reconstruction....he killed her because she kept "nagging him: I suspect he didn't pay his rent regularly and that he was the young man she was seen talking to. When her friend thought she was arranging to see him on Tuesday, she was probably telling him that was when he needed to pay rent...or he was promising to pay it then.
@@slydoll7877 It was him, hewas from Ireland and fled there after he killed Kathy.
Strange ! He says , I'd say it's strange , they were hoping the bus driver would come forward , why was the driver not identified by the bus company rota .
Exactly what I was thinking even in those days the driver would have been traceable somehow.
poor Kathy :(
Be great to have updates on all these cases below in the links… I remember these so well when younger
Google them yourself, that's been half the fun for me 😅
@@robbo391"fun" ? 😟🥴
@@AACE73 yeah...poor choice of words on my part perhaps. Morbid fascination might be more accurate
@@robbo391 it's ok, don't worry. I know what it's like being such a dare devil & living life on the edge....of my seat (!) as a fellow Crimewatch "fan" 😉
Bloody luvd them crisps! #bitzapizza #longlivethe80s
Over 100 members of the public watching only two try to do something one sharply thinking gentleman taking the keys another brave person blocking the route with his van if
even rest of the public tried throwing their shoe at them it would of disorientated them
He was carrying a shotgun....🙄
The last time someone threw a shoe at me I was terrified 😂
@@Peter-ix1ym shut....up...
Not a good idea to get involved if the robbers are carrying guns. One of them might be unhinged enough to shoot at people.
Yes, try and take on the madman with a gun... good idea, not.
RIP BARRY XXX
I watch today on 9.8.19 how little did they know about the peados that took him God bless to him Ms cdf
In 1986 who knew what 'going online' would mean or DNA. How things change.
Securicor- 1. Robbers- Nil. :)
The murder of the sisters from Sparkhill, Brimingham was sickening. Saprkhill is now all but destroyed by immigration from the sub continent. The area is 98% foreign. A dreadful place now.
Doyle is an Irish name. You clearly got to sparkbrook by some kind of immigration by your family. Amazing how hypocritical some people are. You are the product of immigration.
people from subcontinent ? just as you're lot stole all our resources to fund your empire !
@@gujh03 We excreted and cultivated your resources with our expertise and knowledge. We made your countries civilised and educated. For that you ought to be thankful.
@@Bloxdio_God haha typical coward who cannot say it to directly but has to resort to a keyboard behind a screen. You're in the same category of racis@ts that taunt those English players for missing a penalty. The Indian subcontinent was a lot advanced that you think. Expertise and knowledge ? more like using slaves with guns. Another thing we can teach you is karma and its happening now and will do for many generations. Enjoy multicultural Britain !
@@Bloxdio_God Ironically, the shop where the sisters were murdered is now an Islamic cultural centre, believe it or not. The demographic profile of the area has completely changed since 1987.
been waiting for this thanks
Makes you remember how grim the UK was in the 80s under thatcher.
rubbish
@redcard74 I'm patiently awaiting tonights episode😄
We had just moved to the UK and I remember vividly that as a child cw used to scare the pee out of me, couldn’t sleep after watching it.
Ah, the days when you could do a supermarket dash and not have to worry about security tags, security screens and all that malarkey, eh?
Can't believe they gave out the name of the man who took the robbers' car key.
All the criminals giving life in these episodes are all out among us now .....makes ya think 🤔
Not all of them
@Thenorthsace they are if there still alive
*"THAT'S MY LOLLIPOP!"*
lol
Did they ever catch who murdered the two old ladies. I remember when it happened but never heard about it again.
Sadly this is unsolved today 🙁 A really heinous crime that was.
Helen Phelps is absolutely Stunning . She could read me a night time story every night forever 👍
You are still pursuing that fantasy? Me too!
How to rob a securicor van demonstrated by The Chuckle Brothers 😎
Not a good start to the week in Oxford with that robbery. And two days before Oxford had lost 1-3 to Newcastle in the old First division.
36:15 Michael Gove
Biggest amateurish robbery ever what a fuck up.
Music always gets me .. used to turn it off right when he said crime is at an all time low so please dont have nightmares. Click... then bed.. and would still have nightmares.🤦🏾♂️🤡😂
9:19 the copper says the number 42 bus ?
37:20 Garry Cook before he got off to the States and that
yes lol
Oh my word that e fit at 17.39 is horrifying eek
Yes, it is a bit creepy, eh?!
The robbers - must've been carry on film fans. Even Nick laughed.
I seriously fancy Phelps.
Jacqi Hames was far more sultry
Get in the queue.
I don't know why I love everything vintage
35 years ago isn’t vintage lmao
Was that the most incompetent armed robbery ever? Hilarious!
LOL yes! I'm laughing and shaking my head Lol
Bunch of muppets weren’t they?! 🤣 and that getaway van didn’t sound too clever either!
lol at when the guy says, '' the robber is acting very calm strangely ''? eh hello hes holding a double barrel shotgun lol
See my more important post.
Loving these.
those Pizza crisps look nice
Anyone know if they found the killer of Barrie St Germain?
Unsolved
Not too sure about the b/w chequered outfit, Susie, nor the drastic change of hairstyle.
lol at when the guy says, '' the robber is acting very calm strangely ''? eh hello hes holding a double barrel shotgun lol
Wonder how much half a million French francs was in pounds sterling?? At the time??
Around 250k
Pizza crisps??? The 80`s were the best.
All the pizza bitsa pizzaaa
anyone else march around to the theme tune in their own front rooms, then finish with a smart salute in the mirror ?
NO.
@@bwabymafia ok. then, are you the kind of person who mimmicks the kettle drum ending ?
35:52 - Clive Lloyd?
😂
Remarkable resemblance, I agree.
Does every criminal have 'mousey' hair?
And a beer belly?
Sue Cook needs it👍
Dave Nolan you need a slap you pig 🐷
Needs what?
Sliding into your DMs like 28:11
Some of the actors they got are planks of wood. Good episode though
Some of whom went on to audition for parts in Only Fools and Horses … and failed.
Was it the lodger who killed Kathy?
Yes.
It was. Apparently she was nagging him too much so he strangled her. The cowardly, disgusting, waste of life.
I don't think it was the Indian man shown here. She had more than one.
@@treasurehunteruk9718 the suggestion seems to be that it was the ‘young man’ she was seen talking to.
17:32 - That chip packet is so 1987 pizazz style its not true, so tacky and late 80s!!!
In England we call them crisps…
The packet was more nutritious than its contents … and tasted better!