I genuinely think this video was made for me. I used to win 99% of rumble matches i played. Even played with the likes of She's My Nerd, and consistently got more kills than him in Trials. I took a long break from Destiny and am only just getting back into it. Problem is im no where near as good as I was. This video has really opened my eyes to what I need to do to get back on top. Thankyou Dragoon!
Thank you for posting this. Whilst it is nearly a year old it is the first time I've watched it and it has helped me realise I was making mistakes with regards to the attitude with which I approach the Crucible.
Thank you for this video. I play Destiny quite a bit, I'm also a middle school percussion teacher. I showed this video to my class today because the advice you applies PERFECTLY to honing skills on a musical instrument. Thanks also for keeping the language clean so that this can be used in classrooms. Awesome video, Thanks!!!
A question I often ask myself when playing PvP is "What am I doing wrong?" I think that looking inward will help you improve quicker than looking at what's happening around you. I agree with 100% of the points made in this video. Cooling off away from the game is one of the best pieces of advice anyone can get. Works in real life too.
I will admit I was pleasently surprised from what I heard. I came in expecting something completely different from what I heard. Thank you for making this.
That was one thing I liked in the Halo PvP; almost everybody had mics and communicated. In Destiny you need to actually change the setting if you want to be automatically put on the team voice chat(most people haven't bothered with that). That's so true, you can't get emotional if somebody T-bags you. Getting angry just makes you reckless and you end up being a more available target. By all means return the favor if you kill the player that bagged you, but don't make it your only goal.
This is the first video of yours I've ever watched and I enjoyed it so much I subscribed I have a bad habit of raging at destiny pvp and this video made me realize I'm better to keep a level head.
I am very pleased that I've found this video. My clan mates and I are always looking to improve our game, and this will be perfect for us to watch to remind us how to progress.
i miss the simplicity of destiny 1. destiny 2 is an amazing game that i love very much but there was something special about D1. great video, with advice that remains true to this day
I grinded Supremacy for a Lord Shaxx Crucible Bounty, and for my rewards(from crucible matches, the bounty itself, and ranking up: -20/20 AMR7 -Zero-Day Dilemma -Matador 64 -Eyasluna -Hopscotch Pilgrim Also I basically carried my teammates several times. I even got first place twice in a row thanks to my SUROS Regime :)
I stumbled upon this video whilst smoking some marijauna. and I must say I do in fact find this video helpful. I can definitely relate to some of these reasons. I don't know about Destiny being complicated, it could be so much more complex. I feel like Destiny wasn't finished when they made it. but anywho. I enjoyed this video, man. i play Destiny on a daily basis. I'm about to watch the Patroits game. have a splendid night :3
Good video. I agree with all your points. I wish I had seen a video like this a long time ago. I really sucked at PVP for a long time. I stuck with it and figured out your points on my own. Now I'm pretty good most of the time. I've got my K/D ratio comfortably above 1.0 and climbing. It took a while. I still play team matches solo all the time though. Sometimes you find players that know what they are doing, so I just follow their lead. Sometimes, I'm the only player that knows what I'm doing and I get trashed. It's all good though. Even if a match is going badly, I try using it as a learning tool.
Wow... I was expecting this video to be about not always using the Doctrine because it limits you to other weapon archetype's but what you said was very inspiring for a 37 year old gamer who is probably it bit too competitive but won't back down.
obviously you have no experience in higher levels of play. In the high lvl destiny gameplay which is referred to as "sweats" a lot of battles are fought in the air, while double jumping, gliding, and lifting, there is a lot of usage of aerial superiority like floating in the air while escaping to juke people out. That by itself is already complicated and thats what he's pointing out.
Think you are getting confused with a complicated game and skillful play. Destiny as a game is very basic, that does not mean it can't be played skillfully.
I completely agree with most everything you say. The only caveat I would throw in there is comfortability with weapons. I keep the meta weapons around for sure but I can honestly say the weapons I use most are not meta weapons. I think you shouldn't be afraid to try things outside the meta because you may find that hidden gem that can elevate your game. My go to weapon right now is The first Curse in PVP. All great advice though. Keep up the great work.
This was a very helpful video, I am good crucible player but now I have better tips and things that I can use to improve! Thanks for making useful content man
bbk you da man! i needed this after performing really badly with a god roll Eyasluna :( *range finder, rifled barrel and litc* I'll keep practicing and staying positive!
Spot on, particularly with the "take a break" point, that's probably the most important. Instead of going with the meta though, it's important to play with what you're comfortable with. I for example, cannot use a Doctrine to save my life. Guns that I love and perform well with however, are NLB, Jade Rabbit and Thorn (don't judge XD). Playing with the guns that you enjoy using makes it easier to do well with, even if they're not "in the meta". Not always the case, but it certainly helps :) Love your vids, your subs (for the most part) are pretty cool people, and hope you're all as pumped for Rise of Iron as I am :D
Thank you! I don't think Doctrine is that top tier anymore. Grasp of Malok, Hawksaw, pdx 45, tlw, mida, eyas and hawkmoon I think represent the top tier right now.
This video made me realize how often I would use my Fabian Strategy. I loved the gun! Medium rate of fire to the fastest ever depending on location of enemy really gave me an edge. But recently I moved to the hawksaw because I knew it was good. Little did I know, how good it was. I could gun fight anyone, even snipers, but the only down side I thought of was I couldn't make it go full auto. But there was one game of elimination where my team went 5-0 but I solo queued into the game. I love having sunbreaker, but sometimes I switch to striker because I know how I can use it in situations where I get too much gun fire and could die. But I don't follow the meta mainly because I sometimes don't have the weapons. Like how everyone used universal remote or doctrine of passing(adept). Like I still don't even have a jade rabbit or a mida.
I am pretty new to Destiny PVP, and the more I play, the better I get. My first match, I was decimated and it really discouraged me. SomI kept to paroles, story, and strikes to improve my reaction and timing until I grew more confidence. I get really nervous in PVP, since you have those hand fulls of elitists that will message you and berate you for 'sucking.' And they get mad when they have newbs on their teams. Well, sorry, but, we all gotta start somewhere! lol
I would agree with you saying that rumble is good for practice but at the same time how are you supposed to practice gunfights when all you find is people running shotguns. which I guess it's a good game mode to find out how ti challenge shotgunners
Aggressive shotgunners exist in all other playlists though, they aren't exclusive to Rumble. Positioning is super key to stopping shotgunners, and I still die to them very often. Rumble though is rock solid for training gunfights imo
BBKDRAGOON I use to never use shotguns in rumble I used to be in the top 1% of rumble then all of the sudden I have to use shotguns in rumble to even compete for some reason but I guess it happens. I think the main reason I stopped doing so good is that I stopped using primary such as the last word as often in crucible.
BBKDRAGOON but in overall crucible I agree that shotgun usage is everywhere because it's not that hard to just surprise some one in close quarters such as a sniper.
Yeah, I wont lie, I don't enjoy how far Universal Remote and party crasher can kill from, I'm hoping the RoI mixes things up a bit because I'm totally with you. I use shotgun a LOT in 6s now, just to try and stop the bullrush players who charge with a shotgun & jugg
Dude your right on point I sent this video to my Best Friend cuz his prime example of not using good guns going in solo or wit just him and I and complains when we lose. or even when we win if he has a low K/D bam lol take it easy great vid.
ever since I started using fusions in the dark below, and I haven't been able to put them down since. people think I'm crazy, but when to meta shifts, typically my style doesn't.
Dude, your Destiny tips apply for ALL FPS games dude. It apply's to Halo too and many games. This is why I subbed, your content so high quality that I haven't found a bad video. Love your vids man and have hopes for success.
my thing is tilt, I'm glad I have teammates that understand enough to know when I'm on tilt to remind me to take a break cause if I don't they will leave or try to change things up to help me gather myself. Being alone in this game is a no go you really do want simeine on you squad who can help you become a better player.
i know what make me not improving is my bad internet,sometimes i can't kill anyone ,i can't damage anyone bring you the blood pressur and headache,but when the Internet is good i become the king in the mach .i believe many people have this problem
+jesse fernandez tbh, you probably shouldn't be having that attitude when you're coming into a video that's about improvement in a video game or else you WILL look like an ass.
Apparently you didn't listen. He said rumble is great for working on your gun fights and getting stronger as a player without a team. He said a team is for winning your matches. You can't expect to go into crucible alone and win. He didn't say the team makes the player better.
+BBKDRAGOON dude get a life I'll get laid find a woman or something I mean not everybody is sitting back playing Destiny 415 hours a day staying at your mama's house you know most people have jobs life bills to pay eccentric I've been playing Destiny for the last 2 years you don't need to tell me how to play thank you
Just wanted to add my two cents from someone that is seeing things from a different angle. 1. Run. Use your radar as much as humanly possible. If you see red around you and you are alone at that moment, run like hell and keep jumpng and if you can, cut your jump/glide mid jump. Do not stop running until you feel you are safe and see your teammates coming. 2. Know your play style and learn to adapt it to the game you are playing. I am a support player. I play team based stuff solo and my role is to assist as much as possible and kill as I can. I will force the other team's players to move from a spot in order to send them running towards people flanking them. 3. Know the maps. This let's you shoot and back up from a charging enemy or to run like hell in the smoothest way possible. (You touched on it with sniper alleys and whatnot) 4. Learn how other people are playing to use it against them. People are predictable. Even the best players. Yes, they might have some tricks up their sleeves, but most people tend to follow patterned behaviors. Let them use those behaviors and when they do, smack them hard. 5. Stop looking at k/D as your skill level. I have played against and with people that do not engage. They camp, use a sniper and good scout rifle and come out with huge k/D numbers and while sniping requires a level of skill, it does not show your skill at PVP. I would grab someone who ran around destroying people over a sniper with the same k/D simply because campers are boring to me. On my team or not, give me an aggressive player who knows how to wreck the joint and I will have more fun. 6. If you are playing control, capture the control points. If you do not have two zones down most of a match, you lose.
nice vid bro keep it up my kd is around the high 0.9 so still not positive but not that negative but I play solo queue so that's why maybe but I love these vids bro they do help dearly. stay awesome bro
I've been playing destiny since year one, however crucible was never touched to begin with. Its only been the past year and a half in which I've actually started religiously playing PVP. There was just something so satisfying about landing my first clean headshot with a sniper, or clutching a 3 v 1 (not that it happened a lot back then lol) it just kept me wanting, NEEDING to play more! So here I am, a year and a half in, I'd say my Crucible skill level is on the spectrum of above average. Don't mistake this for being big headed as its far from it. For some reason I feel like I'm not doing enough, I like playing with my team mates regularly and I'm truly happy for them when they improve/ have spectacular games, however I find myself constantly envious of them when they do so. I feel I've hit a wall in my skill level and as much as I love the game I just can't bare to play crucible religiously at the moment. I hop on at least once a day for a few hours or so after work or before I meet up with my Girlfriend on my days off, just to maintain my current skill level and sweets new . However I'm always let down due to lack of improvement. My primary aim and movement is what I personally think isn't allowing me to progress as I fell they're both inconsistent, some games they're top tier and others they're not so.. Basically what I'm trying to say is that have you ever been in a similar situation? If so how did you deal with it or what approach would you recommend I take? any feedback would be appreciated, excellent video by the way (as always) thanks.
Switch character and weapon, try a different subclass and see if that helps, it may take time to adjust to but it's worth while because then you have a lot of use to your team mates when playing sweats and your super can change the game sometimes
2:31 and THAT is why sniping is kinda bullshit in this game right now. you should not be able to keep ads and have any semblance of aiming when getting continuously nailed with fire, especially autorifle fire
DaveLP i shouldn't be hitting a sniper with a heavy machine gun and still have him swing around and headshot me in between my shots hitting him, and yet that kinda bullshit happens all over the place.and none of your remark is relevant to my comment at all, i didn't say anything about shotguns or fusion rifles or coutnering snipers
+Zach Stevens No they dont u dont even know what u are talking about how i said destiny Pvp is at the Time a SHOTGUN META so what does tell u that ? Shotguns are still op, 80% of the destiny community plays shotgun and u say no Shotguns are not op m8, universall remote? not op ? A God roll party Crasher? My only point in that is that shotgun take way more less skill then using a shotgun.
DaveLP i didn't say sniping was OP or the meta or anything, i was just commenting on the lack of flinch or some kind of ads force out when shot, and that it's a bit stupid. so please stop trying to act like a know it all, or badass or whatever it is you're doing, because you're missing the point and just look like a douche. and a wrong douche anyway, sniping hasn't gone anywhere in this games competitive* scene and i'll be willing to bet well over half the players in the tournament on the 13th are using 1000 yards, the basically easy mode sniper the game give everyone for free.
i think nightstalker shadow shot should fire faster. it's the most vulnerable super since activating it leaves you open in the air for so long. the shot takes more skill then say hammer of sol has less shots and doesn't have the added shield of a titan.
Here are some well learned tips he did not include. You have to be a hard target to hit and a good shot. You have to know when to fight and when to evade. You can't ever let your opponent predict your movements. You should peek out of corners to get a picture of the space ahead and to potentially draw out fire of a camping sniper you can't see. If you know some one is waiting for you to come out of a door you can just go around or wait for them to come to you. If you see someone is going to come though a door on your radar fire your shots just as you think they would come out or just fire to suppress them as you advance.
I avoid the meta to challenge myself. I sometimes roll graviton forfeit, fusion rifle and last word to dodge the long range battles and dominate at midrange
MightyAndroid56 ARs aren't the meta anymore, especially not the Khvostov. I doubt the exotic Khvostov will be good. In my opinion, the best ARs right now are the Monte Carlo type and the exotic Khvostov has neither of those modes.
CrypticLunatic there are many that disagree with you. Like me. The fast firing ARs are still viable, but so are the slightly slower, more impact ones. It all depends on your play style. Of course, there is a lot of MIDA running around.
hey man. your right about the anger thing me and my mates were in trials and one of my friends raged so hard he continued to rage for the next 2 games... so on the 9-0 game he played realy badly
Very interesting points indeed. Destiny is quite a complex game more than many give it credit for, sure it has it's share of problems but at the end of the day there is more good than bad in this game. I will give your advice a shot and see what happens. Nice Doctrine of Passing by the way I hope to get one myself but unfortunately time on year 2 is running pretty short...
Also, I appreciate the logical approach you're taking here. Most others are mouth breathers who wipe their ass with their hand who would say "just git gud."
The only reason why I handicap myself is because it makes me try harder and feel more satisfied if I beat a whole team using the meta, plus this is how I've gotten better at Destiny.
Alright I play a lot of rift and it usually is solo queue it's very annoying. one day my friends say they have a rift bounty we literally make a whole fire team just friends we coordinate and I be spark runner with the coordination it makes playing rift so much easier P.S if you a warlock or hunter use blink and keep speed max
great vid man! I liked and subscribed. I honestly can't agree enough, but for my pvp slump, it was a little different, like I do hella lot of trials and sweaty matches. but past month I have really felt that I've been missing my sniper shots, my hand cannon shots way too often. and I started to shy away from them, and use different weapons to keep my self from realizing that I was actually doing bad with the style that's my bread and butter. additionally with skill based matchmaking we would just get matched with some out of the world snipers and I sometimes their skills intimidated me into not trying to compete long range, when that is my forte. lately I realized, who gives a fuck lol. I should play my style, I should play the way I want to, even if I get sniped multiple times, I should keep going for that, and eventually I'll start landing my shots. it may have also been the fact that before sbm I would get paired with less experienced players and crucible was honestly easy, and I guess it got to my head that I was really good lol. Now I just decided I should never consider myself great, it's a recipe for disaster. Now I I'm going to just keep believing I need to get better, even when I start to make strides in my game. the key I think, is like you said, don't give up, you will make improvements, and do not be discouraged or impatient, keep a positive outlook and keep trying to get better. One thing I started doing is saving videos of my trials or any sweaty pvp games and going back and watching for any mistakes I did. Dissect your games and see what you can do better. hitting slumps in PvP I feel is like working out, you go to the gym and go nuts for workout sesh and next day, you can't lift like you did the day before, but when the soreness is gone, you're able to life way more than you ever did, and I honestly feel like it's a very similar relation in this regard. Thanks for the tips man, really helped. good luck to anyone trying to get better :)
i agree with stay away a bit u get better it also puts a break on your eyes like i used to be a 1kd player i quit destiny a year and s half and xbox a year and i became like a 2kd
I'd also add, above all have fun and don't take it too seriously. It's just a video game. We've all met at least one toxic player who just takes this too damn seriously and thinks losing is the end of the world. No one likes to lose but understanding you can't win them all is key
i always play with my two friends, And we don't try to win, We just mess around and have fun :) I'm a defender titan, my friend is a gunslinger hunter, and my other friend "thomas" is a stormcaller warlock
Great tips overall, but the most frustrating stuff in Destiny is definitely lag: losing to red bar gods, entering super laggy games, or having your evening ruined because of lag during ToO, this is a super common and it's the most frustrating thing in this game. Something that simply taking a break doesn't fix, because you didn't lose for a lack of skill or terrible SBMM tuning, but because of something completely out of your control, and that tilts me beyond belief. I'm a pretty chill dude and never broke a single gamepad in my life, nor a game disk, but Destiny lag during literally all major activities (Crucible, ToO, Raids) made me uninstall the game and literally break the disk in half out of rage last month, after the nth time i got fucked because of that. IMHO Bungie needs to work super hard on their netcode to guarantee stable connections between users, or straight have some sort of active check that restricts people with very shitty connections of competitive activities. With how the game is now they try to make 1 dude happy by ruining 11 people's experience, and all their efforts so far have been in vain, considering no one knows which activity has damage referee enabled, and even if it's already enabled for the entire game it's not doing much, other than make people miss perfectly aimed shots, or make random body shots into headshots. tl;dr i love destiny, but excessive lag is ruining my experience.
I agree with this video except when it comes to solo play. I got destiny and had ZERO friends when i joined, but i played days worth of pve, because i thought i would suck at pvp. my first game i got 25 kills 4 deaths. I enjoyed it and i kinda kept up with that kd (it's a .89 with a 91% combat rating) now i have friends and., unless we're going against try hards, we just about always score 1, 2, and 3rd place. On the subject of current OP gear. I kinda agree. Everyone hates me for using last word and getting 20+ kills and stealing every kill, but now I'm really good with all handcannons (except omolon idk why). then i used Mida, became really good. used zhalo, uhhh yeah. things got really crazy with 30+ kills. I was already a good shot gunner and with side arms And practice does NOT ALWAYS make perfect. I used a sniper for half of my summer break. (2 1/2 months) I never got any better. If anything I got worse. But love the vid. make some more of this quality and you might get a sub. [end spiel]
I genuinely think this video was made for me. I used to win 99% of rumble matches i played. Even played with the likes of She's My Nerd, and consistently got more kills than him in Trials. I took a long break from Destiny and am only just getting back into it. Problem is im no where near as good as I was. This video has really opened my eyes to what I need to do to get back on top. Thankyou Dragoon!
Thanks for the kind comment!
Im in the same position, I used to be godly.
ayy I'm on the same boat
+Kaneki how have you been haven't watched you in a while
Honestly, this felt like a science lesson
Thank you for posting this. Whilst it is nearly a year old it is the first time I've watched it and it has helped me realise I was making mistakes with regards to the attitude with which I approach the Crucible.
Thank you for this video. I play Destiny quite a bit, I'm also a middle school percussion teacher. I showed this video to my class today because the advice you applies PERFECTLY to honing skills on a musical instrument. Thanks also for keeping the language clean so that this can be used in classrooms. Awesome video, Thanks!!!
A question I often ask myself when playing PvP is "What am I doing wrong?" I think that looking inward will help you improve quicker than looking at what's happening around you. I agree with 100% of the points made in this video. Cooling off away from the game is one of the best pieces of advice anyone can get. Works in real life too.
I will admit I was pleasently surprised from what I heard. I came in expecting something completely different from what I heard. Thank you for making this.
That was one thing I liked in the Halo PvP; almost everybody had mics and communicated. In Destiny you need to actually change the setting if you want to be automatically put on the team voice chat(most people haven't bothered with that).
That's so true, you can't get emotional if somebody T-bags you. Getting angry just makes you reckless and you end up being a more available target. By all means return the favor if you kill the player that bagged you, but don't make it your only goal.
This is one of the best if not the best video I've seen on how to become a better pvp player
just discovered your channel and really enjoying your content thanks so much man and keep smashing it
This is the first video of yours I've ever watched and I enjoyed it so much I subscribed
I have a bad habit of raging at destiny pvp and this video made me realize I'm better to keep a level head.
I am very pleased that I've found this video. My clan mates and I are always looking to improve our game, and this will be perfect for us to watch to remind us how to progress.
i miss the simplicity of destiny 1. destiny 2 is an amazing game that i love very much but there was something special about D1. great video, with advice that remains true to this day
I grinded Supremacy for a Lord Shaxx Crucible Bounty, and for my rewards(from crucible matches, the bounty itself, and ranking up:
-20/20 AMR7
-Zero-Day Dilemma
-Matador 64
-Eyasluna
-Hopscotch Pilgrim
Also I basically carried my teammates several times. I even got first place twice in a row thanks to my SUROS Regime :)
I stumbled upon this video whilst smoking some marijauna. and I must say I do in fact find this video helpful. I can definitely relate to some of these reasons. I don't know about Destiny being complicated, it could be so much more complex. I feel like Destiny wasn't finished when they made it. but anywho. I enjoyed this video, man. i play Destiny on a daily basis. I'm about to watch the Patroits game. have a splendid night :3
Direct and to the point. Great video.
Good video. I agree with all your points. I wish I had seen a video like this a long time ago. I really sucked at PVP for a long time. I stuck with it and figured out your points on my own. Now I'm pretty good most of the time. I've got my K/D ratio comfortably above 1.0 and climbing. It took a while. I still play team matches solo all the time though. Sometimes you find players that know what they are doing, so I just follow their lead. Sometimes, I'm the only player that knows what I'm doing and I get trashed. It's all good though. Even if a match is going badly, I try using it as a learning tool.
Wow... I was expecting this video to be about not always using the Doctrine because it limits you to other weapon archetype's but what you said was very inspiring for a 37 year old gamer who is probably it bit too competitive but won't back down.
Destiny is a complicated game.... actually made me lol.
I think he meant Destiny is complicated because you have point and shoot, whereas in other games you have to......oh wait nevermind.
obviously you have no experience in higher levels of play. In the high lvl destiny gameplay which is referred to as "sweats" a lot of battles are fought in the air, while double jumping, gliding, and lifting, there is a lot of usage of aerial superiority like floating in the air while escaping to juke people out. That by itself is already complicated and thats what he's pointing out.
Think you are getting confused with a complicated game and skillful play. Destiny as a game is very basic, that does not mean it can't be played skillfully.
MrElkin85 perfectly said.
***** you obviously have no experience with the word complicated.
I completely agree with most everything you say. The only caveat I would throw in there is comfortability with weapons. I keep the meta weapons around for sure but I can honestly say the weapons I use most are not meta weapons. I think you shouldn't be afraid to try things outside the meta because you may find that hidden gem that can elevate your game. My go to weapon right now is The first Curse in PVP. All great advice though. Keep up the great work.
This was a very helpful video, I am good crucible player but now I have better tips and things that I can use to improve! Thanks for making useful content man
I really like your ideology towards gaming. Love what you say throughout the video.
bbk you da man! i needed this after performing really badly with a god roll Eyasluna :( *range finder, rifled barrel and litc* I'll keep practicing and staying positive!
The Classic Shotgun Rushes Will Never Die
Spot on, particularly with the "take a break" point, that's probably the most important.
Instead of going with the meta though, it's important to play with what you're comfortable with. I for example, cannot use a Doctrine to save my life. Guns that I love and perform well with however, are NLB, Jade Rabbit and Thorn (don't judge XD). Playing with the guns that you enjoy using makes it easier to do well with, even if they're not "in the meta". Not always the case, but it certainly helps :)
Love your vids, your subs (for the most part) are pretty cool people, and hope you're all as pumped for Rise of Iron as I am :D
Thank you! I don't think Doctrine is that top tier anymore. Grasp of Malok, Hawksaw, pdx 45, tlw, mida, eyas and hawkmoon I think represent the top tier right now.
This video made me realize how often I would use my Fabian Strategy. I loved the gun! Medium rate of fire to the fastest ever depending on location of enemy really gave me an edge. But recently I moved to the hawksaw because I knew it was good. Little did I know, how good it was. I could gun fight anyone, even snipers, but the only down side I thought of was I couldn't make it go full auto. But there was one game of elimination where my team went 5-0 but I solo queued into the game. I love having sunbreaker, but sometimes I switch to striker because I know how I can use it in situations where I get too much gun fire and could die. But I don't follow the meta mainly because I sometimes don't have the weapons. Like how everyone used universal remote or doctrine of passing(adept). Like I still don't even have a jade rabbit or a mida.
I really liked thos because I applied it to other games as well not just destiny. Great video thank you!
I am pretty new to Destiny PVP, and the more I play, the better I get. My first match, I was decimated and it really discouraged me. SomI kept to paroles, story, and strikes to improve my reaction and timing until I grew more confidence. I get really nervous in PVP, since you have those hand fulls of elitists that will message you and berate you for 'sucking.' And they get mad when they have newbs on their teams. Well, sorry, but, we all gotta start somewhere! lol
great video. we need more ppl in the community giving positive thoughts and tips like this. i know i will use these tips when i play next..
glad to hear and thank you!
I would agree with you saying that rumble is good for practice but at the same time how are you supposed to practice gunfights when all you find is people running shotguns. which I guess it's a good game mode to find out how ti challenge shotgunners
Aggressive shotgunners exist in all other playlists though, they aren't exclusive to Rumble. Positioning is super key to stopping shotgunners, and I still die to them very often. Rumble though is rock solid for training gunfights imo
BBKDRAGOON I use to never use shotguns in rumble I used to be in the top 1% of rumble then all of the sudden I have to use shotguns in rumble to even compete for some reason but I guess it happens. I think the main reason I stopped doing so good is that I stopped using primary such as the last word as often in crucible.
BBKDRAGOON but in overall crucible I agree that shotgun usage is everywhere because it's not that hard to just surprise some one in close quarters such as a sniper.
Yeah, I wont lie, I don't enjoy how far Universal Remote and party crasher can kill from, I'm hoping the RoI mixes things up a bit because I'm totally with you. I use shotgun a LOT in 6s now, just to try and stop the bullrush players who charge with a shotgun & jugg
+BBKDRAGOON #makefusionriflesthenewmeta
Dude your right on point I sent this video to my Best Friend cuz his prime example of not using good guns going in solo or wit just him and I and complains when we lose. or even when we win if he has a low K/D bam lol take it easy great vid.
ever since I started using fusions in the dark below, and I haven't been able to put them down since. people think I'm crazy, but when to meta shifts, typically my style doesn't.
Immediate thumbs up for not saying "Wat IZ up!" at the start of the video.
Dude, your Destiny tips apply for ALL FPS games dude. It apply's to Halo too and many games. This is why I subbed, your content so high quality that I haven't found a bad video. Love your vids man and have hopes for success.
Thank you very much
You should practice with lightning placement. The best way to use them is place them horizontally.
my thing is tilt, I'm glad I have teammates that understand enough to know when I'm on tilt to remind me to take a break cause if I don't they will leave or try to change things up to help me gather myself. Being alone in this game is a no go you really do want simeine on you squad who can help you become a better player.
i know what make me not improving is my bad internet,sometimes i can't kill anyone ,i can't damage anyone bring you the blood pressur and headache,but when the Internet is good i become the king in the mach .i believe many people have this problem
love these old crucible school vids
Love the video, I like the concise analysis! Keep up the good work
Thanks!
Look, there I am!
Soooooo, relying on teammates to win makes you better? I don't get it.
No matter how well you do, you need good teammates, because 1 good teammate vs 6 good enemies wont work out well
but still is just a damn game
+jesse fernandez tbh, you probably shouldn't be having that attitude when you're coming into a video that's about improvement in a video game or else you WILL look like an ass.
Apparently you didn't listen. He said rumble is great for working on your gun fights and getting stronger as a player without a team. He said a team is for winning your matches. You can't expect to go into crucible alone and win. He didn't say the team makes the player better.
theyetitookthesoap neither do i especially with the fact my teammates leave my ass for fucking primary ammo dropped off an enemy
another solid video :)
thanks!
fantastic video that's really hit a chord with me! thank you for sharing!
Very useful, and I am seeing improvements as I play thanks to this video
If you get a shot using a sniper switch to your primary to finish them off. Should work considering the person who got shot is low health.
STORMCALLER/STRIKER + SHOTGUN = WIN
=noob
am I the only person who feels nothing is OP cause there's a counter to everything but nobody actually realizes that
thats the whole point. you're forced to play in a way thats not enjoyable
Ash Craft I enjoy that way cause its like a rock paper scissors thing
Forgetting us hunters now?
I will use any meta weapon except the Universal Remote. That gun is crazy OP. The only time I use it is on the 9-0 match of a double carry, that's it.
Subbed since strange coins, and you still never fail to intruige me
Thanks!
+BBKDRAGOON do you know how to spam motes of light
+BBKDRAGOON dude get a life I'll get laid find a woman or something I mean not everybody is sitting back playing Destiny 415 hours a day staying at your mama's house you know most people have jobs life bills to pay eccentric I've been playing Destiny for the last 2 years you don't need to tell me how to play thank you
+Shawn Brown I'm pretty sure there's 24 hours in a day🤔
+Shawn Brown fuck you... 😊 ☺ 😆
Just wanted to add my two cents from someone that is seeing things from a different angle.
1. Run. Use your radar as much as humanly possible. If you see red around you and you are alone at that moment, run like hell and keep jumpng and if you can, cut your jump/glide mid jump. Do not stop running until you feel you are safe and see your teammates coming.
2. Know your play style and learn to adapt it to the game you are playing. I am a support player. I play team based stuff solo and my role is to assist as much as possible and kill as I can. I will force the other team's players to move from a spot in order to send them running towards people flanking them.
3. Know the maps. This let's you shoot and back up from a charging enemy or to run like hell in the smoothest way possible. (You touched on it with sniper alleys and whatnot)
4. Learn how other people are playing to use it against them. People are predictable. Even the best players. Yes, they might have some tricks up their sleeves, but most people tend to follow patterned behaviors. Let them use those behaviors and when they do, smack them hard.
5. Stop looking at k/D as your skill level. I have played against and with people that do not engage. They camp, use a sniper and good scout rifle and come out with huge k/D numbers and while sniping requires a level of skill, it does not show your skill at PVP. I would grab someone who ran around destroying people over a sniper with the same k/D simply because campers are boring to me. On my team or not, give me an aggressive player who knows how to wreck the joint and I will have more fun.
6. If you are playing control, capture the control points. If you do not have two zones down most of a match, you lose.
nice vid bro keep it up my kd is around the high 0.9 so still not positive but not that negative but I play solo queue so that's why maybe but I love these vids bro they do help dearly. stay awesome bro
Thank you, I needed to hear this.
Destiny? Damn, some of that advice applies perfectly to life itself as well haha. Good motivation
I like the positive Info in this Video
I've been playing destiny since year one, however crucible was never touched to begin with. Its only been the past year and a half in which I've actually started religiously playing PVP. There was just something so satisfying about landing my first clean headshot with a sniper, or clutching a 3 v 1 (not that it happened a lot back then lol) it just kept me wanting, NEEDING to play more! So here I am, a year and a half in, I'd say my Crucible skill level is on the spectrum of above average. Don't mistake this for being big headed as its far from it. For some reason I feel like I'm not doing enough, I like playing with my team mates regularly and I'm truly happy for them when they improve/ have spectacular games, however I find myself constantly envious of them when they do so. I feel I've hit a wall in my skill level and as much as I love the game I just can't bare to play crucible religiously at the moment. I hop on at least once a day for a few hours or so after work or before I meet up with my Girlfriend on my days off, just to maintain my current skill level and sweets new . However I'm always let down due to lack of improvement. My primary aim and movement is what I personally think isn't allowing me to progress as I fell they're both inconsistent, some games they're top tier and others they're not so.. Basically what I'm trying to say is that have you ever been in a similar situation? If so how did you deal with it or what approach would you recommend I take? any feedback would be appreciated, excellent video by the way (as always) thanks.
Switch character and weapon, try a different subclass and see if that helps, it may take time to adjust to but it's worth while because then you have a lot of use to your team mates when playing sweats and your super can change the game sometimes
2:31 and THAT is why sniping is kinda bullshit in this game right now. you should not be able to keep ads and have any semblance of aiming when getting continuously nailed with fire, especially autorifle fire
DaveLP i shouldn't be hitting a sniper with a heavy machine gun and still have him swing around and headshot me in between my shots hitting him, and yet that kinda bullshit happens all over the place.and none of your remark is relevant to my comment at all, i didn't say anything about shotguns or fusion rifles or coutnering snipers
+Zach Stevens No they dont u dont even know what u are talking about how i said destiny Pvp is at the Time a SHOTGUN META so what does tell u that ? Shotguns are still op, 80% of the destiny community plays shotgun and u say no Shotguns are not op m8, universall remote? not op ? A God roll party Crasher? My only point in that is that shotgun take way more less skill then using a shotgun.
+DaveLP Sniper*
DaveLP i didn't say sniping was OP or the meta or anything, i was just commenting on the lack of flinch or some kind of ads force out when shot, and that it's a bit stupid. so please stop trying to act like a know it all, or badass or whatever it is you're doing, because you're missing the point and just look like a douche. and a wrong douche anyway, sniping hasn't gone anywhere in this games competitive* scene and i'll be willing to bet well over half the players in the tournament on the 13th are using 1000 yards, the basically easy mode sniper the game give everyone for free.
+Nuke DaPeez lol look, I didnt send u the messages i meant the other guy but ok nice that ur watching .
I think I'll be a little more positive about PvP in future, good video. Thanx
Great overall video. Subbed
i think nightstalker shadow shot should fire faster. it's the most vulnerable super since activating it leaves you open in the air for so long. the shot takes more skill then say hammer of sol has less shots and doesn't have the added shield of a titan.
Thank u for this vid ive improved a LOT!!!
Thanks for your video man this is awesome
great video man! keep it up..
Here are some well learned tips he did not include. You have to be a hard target to hit and a good shot. You have to know when to fight and when to evade. You can't ever let your opponent predict your movements. You should peek out of corners to get a picture of the space ahead and to potentially draw out fire of a camping sniper you can't see. If you know some one is waiting for you to come out of a door you can just go around or wait for them to come to you. If you see someone is going to come though a door on your radar fire your shots just as you think they would come out or just fire to suppress them as you advance.
bbk this is boss status.
mug digs the slick vids.
Excellent video! Thanks!
I remember watching husky Starcraft commentate whitera's games all the time... Oh the memories
Yah that's pretty accurate like I know how to see if I'm about to get shoulder charged fist of havoc shotguners snipers snipe lanes etc
I avoid the meta to challenge myself. I sometimes roll graviton forfeit, fusion rifle and last word to dodge the long range battles and dominate at midrange
Thank you for the video !
I use the khvostov in pvp sometimes on my max titan(298 whilst using khvostov) as it is actaully a very good auto rifle.
funny.
Khvostov is a good, but limited ammo gun for pvp. It's not a joke.
+CrypticLunatic He's not wrong. It's a good auto rifle. The exotic khvostov coming with the new expansion will be quite nice.
MightyAndroid56 ARs aren't the meta anymore, especially not the Khvostov. I doubt the exotic Khvostov will be good. In my opinion, the best ARs right now are the Monte Carlo type and the exotic Khvostov has neither of those modes.
CrypticLunatic there are many that disagree with you. Like me. The fast firing ARs are still viable, but so are the slightly slower, more impact ones. It all depends on your play style. Of course, there is a lot of MIDA running around.
New Subscriber, great video. very helpful. thanks!
thank you!
Did you say patience and time 😏
:)
Thanks for the advices man.
You seem chill, so you get a subscriber.
hey man. your right about the anger thing me and my mates were in trials and one of my friends raged so hard he continued to rage for the next 2 games... so on the 9-0 game he played realy badly
Very interesting points indeed. Destiny is quite a complex game more than many give it credit for, sure it has it's share of problems but at the end of the day there is more good than bad in this game. I will give your advice a shot and see what happens. Nice Doctrine of Passing by the way I hope to get one myself but unfortunately time on year 2 is running pretty short...
Good stuff mate. Subbed :-)
# 2 is opposite for me. I hate solo queuing for skirmish and salvage. I enjoy clash the most.
Thanks so much for the nice vid and the smart and wise encouragement. Theres a lot to be learned for real life also...
Thanks!
thanks for video man it really help control my anger!
Also, I appreciate the logical approach you're taking here. Most others are mouth breathers who wipe their ass with their hand who would say "just git gud."
that moment when a gamer gives better motivation than school
I needed this, thanks
The only reason why I handicap myself is because it makes me try harder and feel more satisfied if I beat a whole team using the meta, plus this is how I've gotten better at Destiny.
Why you're not improving at destiny pvp:
FUCKEN SPECIAL AMMO NERF DAMMIT
Liked and subcribed, thanks for sharing this is very helpful.
thanks dude i needed that
i kinda wanted to see the motivation emote in the end "JUST DO IT"
I love mida and the grasp of malok
Alright I play a lot of rift and it usually is solo queue it's very annoying. one day my friends say they have a rift bounty we literally make a whole fire team just friends we coordinate and I be spark runner with the coordination it makes playing rift so much easier P.S if you a warlock or hunter use blink and keep speed max
Great Video!
Thank you!
Really good advice great vid
where can i find an up to date source for the currently strongest weapons as you mentioned?
thanks! this helped alot
nice informative vid. couldn't agree more...
Here's a tip probably better than any other. RECORD YOUR GAMEPLAY, NARRATE IT, POINT OUT WHAT YOU DID GOOD/BAD, BE UNBIASED, PROFIT.
great vid man! I liked and subscribed. I honestly can't agree enough, but for my pvp slump, it was a little different, like I do hella lot of trials and sweaty matches. but past month I have really felt that I've been missing my sniper shots, my hand cannon shots way too often. and I started to shy away from them, and use different weapons to keep my self from realizing that I was actually doing bad with the style that's my bread and butter. additionally with skill based matchmaking we would just get matched with some out of the world snipers and I sometimes their skills intimidated me into not trying to compete long range, when that is my forte. lately I realized, who gives a fuck lol. I should play my style, I should play the way I want to, even if I get sniped multiple times, I should keep going for that, and eventually I'll start landing my shots. it may have also been the fact that before sbm I would get paired with less experienced players and crucible was honestly easy, and I guess it got to my head that I was really good lol. Now I just decided I should never consider myself great, it's a recipe for disaster. Now I I'm going to just keep believing I need to get better, even when I start to make strides in my game. the key I think, is like you said, don't give up, you will make improvements, and do not be discouraged or impatient, keep a positive outlook and keep trying to get better. One thing I started doing is saving videos of my trials or any sweaty pvp games and going back and watching for any mistakes I did. Dissect your games and see what you can do better. hitting slumps in PvP I feel is like working out, you go to the gym and go nuts for workout sesh and next day, you can't lift like you did the day before, but when the soreness is gone, you're able to life way more than you ever did, and I honestly feel like it's a very similar relation in this regard. Thanks for the tips man, really helped. good luck to anyone trying to get better :)
i agree with stay away a bit u get better it also puts a break on your eyes like i used to be a 1kd player i quit destiny a year and s half and xbox a year and i became like a 2kd
I'd also add, above all have fun and don't take it too seriously. It's just a video game. We've all met at least one toxic player who just takes this too damn seriously and thinks losing is the end of the world. No one likes to lose but understanding you can't win them all is key
i always play with my two friends, And we don't try to win, We just mess around and have fun :)
I'm a defender titan, my friend is a gunslinger hunter, and my other friend "thomas" is a stormcaller warlock
great video thanks!
Great tips overall, but the most frustrating stuff in Destiny is definitely lag: losing to red bar gods, entering super laggy games, or having your evening ruined because of lag during ToO, this is a super common and it's the most frustrating thing in this game. Something that simply taking a break doesn't fix, because you didn't lose for a lack of skill or terrible SBMM tuning, but because of something completely out of your control, and that tilts me beyond belief.
I'm a pretty chill dude and never broke a single gamepad in my life, nor a game disk, but Destiny lag during literally all major activities (Crucible, ToO, Raids) made me uninstall the game and literally break the disk in half out of rage last month, after the nth time i got fucked because of that.
IMHO Bungie needs to work super hard on their netcode to guarantee stable connections between users, or straight have some sort of active check that restricts people with very shitty connections of competitive activities. With how the game is now they try to make 1 dude happy by ruining 11 people's experience, and all their efforts so far have been in vain, considering no one knows which activity has damage referee enabled, and even if it's already enabled for the entire game it's not doing much, other than make people miss perfectly aimed shots, or make random body shots into headshots.
tl;dr i love destiny, but excessive lag is ruining my experience.
I agree with this video except when it comes to solo play.
I got destiny and had ZERO friends when i joined, but i played days worth of pve, because i thought i would suck at pvp. my first game i got 25 kills 4 deaths. I enjoyed it and i kinda kept up with that kd (it's a .89 with a 91% combat rating) now i have friends and., unless we're going against try hards, we just about always score 1, 2, and 3rd place.
On the subject of current OP gear. I kinda agree. Everyone hates me for using last word and getting 20+ kills and stealing every kill, but now I'm really good with all handcannons (except omolon idk why). then i used Mida, became really good. used zhalo, uhhh yeah. things got really crazy with 30+ kills. I was already a good shot gunner and with side arms
And practice does NOT ALWAYS make perfect. I used a sniper for half of my summer break. (2 1/2 months) I never got any better. If anything I got worse.
But love the vid. make some more of this quality and you might get a sub.
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