@@1234userkillsat the cost that he can't stand even 10 minutes of fighting and on top of that his fights (unless they are stipulations) are bad one thing does not take away the other
@@CodeSiber Ambrose is a chill guy, he's quite guy, he's like Robert De Niro you know, have you seen his interview he does not say much, he gets to the point and states the obvious, not everyone has an up beat interview.
@@TheHattaru I get that but you'd expect Dean/Jon to take this opportunity to show a little bit of charisma and what he can do as a character. Especially as being WWE Champion at the time. It's not just an interview, it's a behind the scenes podcast that millions of people were watching. I mean Stone Cold literally sat there and challenged him to show some fire and passion and Dean/Jon just kinda shrugged his shoulders and mumbled nonsense. It just wasn't a great look at the time for someone who the company had just put their faith into.
@@CodeSiber well the story is this: dean told either austin or the producers not to bring up his family or childhood and austin did and then dean just shut up from there and shit went downhill
@@akuma4u That makes sense cos Jon is a mostly private person. He doesn’t feel like the world needs to know a bunch about his personal life which is why his social media usage is low. If he wants the world to know something he will let the world know on his terms which honestly is more than fair.
@@44daggers44 because Jon told Austin's producers not to bring up anything about his family before the interview, and they did anyway. Of course he's not gonna give his best for the interview
@Jack Walsh laugh all you want but it's true, ofcourse Brock would still win but he it won't be as easy as you think, no professional wrestler would get beaten up that easily in a real fight
@Jack Walsh oh look another moron that thinks actually putting effort into a match means you have to straight shoot. No shit a former UFC heavyweight champion could shoot kill Jonathan Goodman if they wanted. Nobody cares and that's not even close to the real point.
@Jack Walsh lmao good thing wwe is fake and they're just trying to entertain people not actually kill each other. you're argument is so bad its like saying "lmao this singer couldn't last a minute with the UFC champion her music sucks lol"
This comment is so true it hurts. Ambrose/Moxley is a massive mark and never let go of that trash wrestling CZW (who are all ECW wannabes that even Paul Heyman didn't acknowledge) and is so apparent once he got to AEW and Tony Khan gave him all the creative freedom to show who he truly was. That and Dark side of the ring where he literally says that Vince would kill to have someone like Nick Gage on his program who had a connection with the fans like he does. He literally tries to put over Nick Gage, a crackhead criminal who literally tried to kill David Arquette in the ring because he was jealous of him and took advantage of the situation, even though Arquette told him not to take liberties with him in that match.
When it comes to Brock Lesnar matches. It's all for if Brock is interested or not. Like his matches with AJ Styles or Daniel Bryan, Brock wanted those matches and so he showed up and did his job. But when it's something he doesn't want he just doesn't care.
Which is fucking stupid..... He only wrestles a few times a year, and gets paid the most, he should at least put some interest and effort in every match.
@@mitchellsommer2321 really!! He wasn’t motivated because he was pissed off and their is couple of wrestlers talked about Dean, and go watch Paul talked with Austin about this match
It's not that he is all about himself, so much as it is that Brock begrudgingly participates in a profession for which he does not actually love. Thus, his attitude, be it when re-negotiating his contracts or pertaining to certain events/match-ups, is along the lines of, 'Okay, you want me? Here's what I will be paid, here's how many dates a year I'll show up, and here's what I'm willing and not willing to do.' That WWE has continually met those terms is more of an indictment on them than it is Brock. I'm not defending him, I am just pointing out that we shouldn't be surprised when he comes off as selfish. He seemingly doesn't love this occupation and wishes he could so something else for the same low risk and workrate; which in my own adrift estimation is why we get perspectives such as this one from Ambrose.
@@Thforklift126 Agree but only a slight problem. Brock in his contract was able to do pretty much whatever he want. And I mean creative freedom, who he wants to face, whether he wins or loses, gets the title on him or not (I think), etc. The guy has some blame in this, and while Vince is the main reason why he's world champuon 8 months at a time, he still has a lot of things he can do to entertain or please himself with. The roster hasn't been filled with so much talented wrestlers, and your telling me not even a handful of those guys are interesting to work with Brock? You get what I'm saying?
The reality is : Lesnar knew that he was going to fight in the UFC in a couple of months at that point, so he didn't want to risk an injury. That's why he chose to not do shit in that match. Also, he wanted to work with Wyatt, not Ambrose.
That’s no excuse, Brock could’ve made that match more interesting to say the least, it looked like he didn’t even try. Sure it’s a hardcore match, but Brock is a pro at this stuff, and it’s wrestlemania, so no excuse for this match to suck.
This match could’ve been just as entertaining as cm punk vs Brock lesnar if not more, but Brock didn’t care and phoned it in. I’ve seen when Brock cares, and it’s damn entertaining.
Its because around that time he was planning on going back to the ufc and didn't want to risk injuring himself but Jon was right it could have been something fucking epic and he didn't even want brock to take any dangerous bumps he just wanted him to give out the dangerous bumps and pretty much destroy him mox is a fucking physco 😂
@@josiahlutchman4913 because when he channel his inner Moxley his as extreme as Brock Lesnar. Dean wouldn't be able to beat Brock in a real ufc fight or a boxing match but Lesnar wouldn't be able to beat Dean at a real street match
My expectations going into this were Brock destroying Dean in so many different and brutal ways but being frustrated that he couldn't put him out...in the end, he eventually does but Dean gains his respect in the process and is the real star of the match, probably of that Wrestlemania....shame how it turned out.
He was going back to UFC in a couple months and didn’t wanna risk injuries. Still not an excuse for the piss poor match, it at least he had a reason instead of laziness.
@@davidjohnson-gs9je that reason would hold more weight if he didn't literally do that fight for no reason cuz he can't pass a drug test and got the results thrown out
And hes hogging the world title there in aew boring actual talent unlike himself.his run has brought the rating down in every segment he is in.aew should have known why wwe lost faith in him,he just doesnt have it
@@wingedhussar1453 This is a good point. You can see why WWE didn't utilise certain talent as they show their weaknesses in AEW quite prominently. Moxley, Miro, Cody Rhodes (not always, but he's very bland), and now Jericho's abysmal year. At least Jericho showed promise initially, but now I know why he was never "top dog"
The problem was the envision of the match itself. From Dean vs WWE’s way of looking at things. I would imagine Dean’s envision of the match was, as he already said, Brock can kill Dean with his barehands at any minute. So, where the tables can turn, is just destroying him with weapons. Yes he can’t win without them, but that’s why the street fight works to his advantage. That’s when the tables turn, you really think Dean will win, then Brock just hits an F5 out of nowhere and wins. Both men are beaten up. Both men went through hell. Unfortunately for Dean, that’s not how Brock Lesnar has been booked since his return in 2012. Brock was going to, and did destroy him without Dean really doing much of anything in that match besides a *few* weapon hits. That’s it. And that’s how Lesnar has been booked since he came back. That’s just the fact that Brock was going to come in and pummel him then leave like the Beast WWE tries to bring him out to be.
Brock had a UFC fight coming up. I believe it was against Mark Hunt. He very obviously didn't want to do anything that would risk a serious injury and likely didn't view Ambrose as somebody worth his time.
WWE shouldn’t have booked it as a hardcore/street fight if it was just gonna be a pretty standard fare match. Regardless of who’s responsible for it being crap they misadvertised it
Brock doing the same thing for years: squash matches with German suplexes and F5s.. Don't make UFC excuses, Brock had been doing the same lazy matches for 6 years.
His Squash matches have been few and far in between in years. A quick match =/= a squash match. Ricochet and Kofi (moreso Ricochet) being examples of an actual squash
To the people who are saying that stone cold was asking dean personal questions, IT IS AN INTERVIEW! and dean ambrose is a public figure you should handle any interview professionally and not let your feelings get in the way, don’t do an interview if you don’t want to be asked questions!
I remember, I was so pumped for this. This was the match to look forward to imo. And I was so disappointed. Was done with WWE was done with Lesnar. That was like the final straw from me to go like fuck this. (haven't watched WWE in over four years.)
I kept watching only because Lesnar wasn't in the main event. And while Roman Reigns for the longest of time was genric and boring, the guy at least had a unique look, decent moveset, and an incredible workrate. But when Brock didn't lose his Universal Title at Mania 34, that's when I almost stopped watching all of wrestling for like 5 months. Until ALL IN happened, where I was able to go to in person, and my love for Pro Wrestling flourished again. And ALL IN was the predecessor of AEW (All Elite Wrestling), and I've been watching AEW, Impact, and NJPW every week. Haven't watch WWE for 3 years.
After seeing thjat Jon basically just wants to do indie style hardcore matches every time, I can imagine why Brock and Vince weren't going to let him turn the WM main event into a non-sensical hardcore match and that is probably also why Brock was reluctant to go along with any other ideas he might have had also.
Dean/Jon wanted to make the match memorable for the fans but everything he suggested got shut down the build was awesome but the match in my opinion was a 7/10 they could have added more but they made it yet another disappointing outcome
This is why Dean never got past a certain level in the WWE. He wanted to do shit that gets you over in bingo halls of 100 dudes all wearing matching Bullet Club shirts, not shit that will get you over with an arena of thousands.
@@Kalel2.0lol say for marks not for fans because a great match can be achieved without blood and if lesnar wanted he can really busted his face open but then he and some marks would have thrashed lesnar and tbh let's see what moxley is doing in aew he had made a joke of himself 😂😂😂
Ambrose was in a tough situation doing this. he was pretty pissed off at a lot of stuff in the company at the time, but they just made him world champion and he was about to be the face of smackdown. had to tow the line but knew politically, he was pretty damn low on the totem pole itd be like Damien Priest going on a podcast after winning the title and saying he was pissed that Cody dragged down his recent match. company wouldn't be happy with that either
Dean is being nice about it the match could been the best on the card but brock being brock call the shots and didn't want the kind of match the fans deserved.
After 4 years of Moxley in AEW, no wonder Lesnar wasn’t interested. He isn’t into that ridiculous hardcore crap. He probably didn’t want the MMA community to make fun of him for playing with light tubes and pizza cutters
Its like he knew he is going to loose at the end of the day because obviously brock wont take it to loose from ambrose but ambrose wanted to loose in an epic way but brock was to lazy to create a proper story line and proper moments to make that match epic
I always thought WWE was salty that Ambrose had a better match with HHH than Roman and Rollins did. Oddly enough though Roman and Rollins had better matches with Brock. For whatever reason, Brock just never cared for him.
Also post-Shield split, Ambrose was the 2nd most over babyface (after Bryan) and Rollins was the best heel while Roman was just meh. This didn't sit well with WWE who wanted Roman to be their guy and made Ambrose look like his side kick in 2014-2016.
@@mrchowdhury4738 they call it wrestling cause people tell a story in a ring. Playing with light tubes and pizza cutters is ridiculous as hell and it makes wrestling seem faker than it already is
@@ITSHIM1294 amen, also the guy asking why isn't physical in a brock Lesnar match 😂. It's entertainment reason y it's a match. If it was a wrestling match he would fold half the locker room n head home.
I believe it would have been fine if it wasn't booked as a street fight and they didn't tease using a barbwire bat. Doing that made me believe it was going to be Foley Edge good and that is where the disappointment lies.
Looking back on their match at Mania that year, Dean's ideas definitely would have made the match better than it was. They didn't even have to do everything he suggested, at least some of it. For the people saying, "Look at what Mox does in AEW. Why would Brock wanna do that stuff?" Dean didn't say exactly what they would've been doing, just that he had ideas. If the UFC fight Brock had coming up was gonna cause him to mail it in, then WWE should have paired them with other people.
@KennyOmegasCavityWWE fans, (their is a difference between a wrestling fan, and a brand-loyal mark.) never want WWE to do anything remotely out there. I’m not saying do light-tube matches, THATS truly mud-show shit, what isn’t, is trying something more than just twatting each other with gimmick-ed “weapons”
Brock will go down in history as one of the laziest WWE stars of all time, which is a shame because when he was actually putting the work in he could pull off some of the best matches ever.
@@Stuart267 Who has been a better wrestler than Brock in the last 20 years? AJ Styles? Bryan Danielson? Brock is great because he can work with the untalented hosses that WWE has hired over the last decade plus, or with the talented wrestlers that are AJ or Bryan's size (provided they have a amateur wrestling background/pedigree).
@@023achilles Brock is lazy in many fights & he would never put an "untalented hosses" over, Hell he screwed Dean Ambrose out of a decent match, he only puts on a show when he can be bothered. As for Styles, Daniel Bryan he ain't in their league, they worked 300+ days a year, he barely works 10 days & when he does he rarely does anything different or surprising sure he had a great match with Bryan & also with CM Punk at the Summer Slam PPV but Brock only puts on a decent performance on very rare occasions
I see where ambrose is coming from.. but at the same time u gotta give credit to brock hes been technically in the main event scene ever since he came back and when they had nothing for him they pitched him with dean who felt brock was lazy coz brock didnt wanna do anything but truth b told that brock didnt want that match he wanted to work a different program, a different match that looks main event worthy
When Brock cares, he's legitimately one of the best in the business. When he doesn't care, you know you're probably in for one of the most disappointing matches on the card. I don’t know if it was anything against Mox. It probably had more to do with Brock having a big money fight at UFC 200 coming up and didn't wanna risk it.
Good God Ambrose is intoxicated here. Slurring words looking all sloppy eyed. Incoherent ramblings that contradict themselves. Seeing him sober now really makes you see the difference
I can under why Dean would be upset. He is used to putting on exciting matches. When Brock first came, he did fine in the ring but then he just became a bulldozer and that was it.
@@grinderthashiner8265 But when the dice does roll properly, you have his Stans kiss his ass and say "Well his matches with Daniel Bryan and AJ Styles were good, so that makes him not lazy" when literally every other match he's been in for the last 4 years has him doing the same routine. Eat, Sleep, Suplex, Repeat.
Brock always feels so random to me. Heavyweight or cruiserweight, if he likes you he'll work with ya. If he doesn't then its a squash match for like 2-4 mins like we saw here with Dean
@@fayahmad9063 Austin and Lesnar are friends! It made no sense whatsoever to give away a marquee match with no build up at all on free TV. Steve didn't have a problem with doing a job, he had a problem with how shit the creative was.
Not sure why people complain so much about this interview. This is how Jon Moxley always communicates, what you see is what you get, they knew that going in.
@@akuma4u Yea They had numerous Segments with Dean meeting hardcore legends and then giving their blessing and their signature weapons and barely any of them was used. Can we blame Dean for expecting more when wwe did all of that
You wanna see his full potential ? Watch his fight with Omega... Watch his fight from Full Gear. Watch any of his matches. That's what this guy is capable of. Not a single bad match. He doesn't talks much. He is an introvert and generally doesn't opens up and people think he's an asshole for that. Brock didn't fight because 1- He was going for UFC and didn't wanted to risk any injury. 2- Mox wasn't as big of a deal in Brock's eyes so he didn't give a shit. 3- In the end, Brock does what he wants to. Mox isn't lazy, he isn't untalented. If you think he is untalented, well, he isn't the type of guy who suplexes 79 times and 69 F5s. He has an actual moveset.
Mox is sorta untalanted especially since most of the connection with fans is threw your actions,he doesnt act himself like he cares and his run in aew looks like the most uninspired lazy run I've ever seen of a world champion ,hes now buried dozen of wrestler with more potential then him,even triple h reign was better as triple h is a much better more dedicated wrestler
Y'all acting like Dean gave one word answers, plus he ain't very outgoing, and he had the WWE title so he had to be on the podcast cus when your the champ u have responsibilities others don't. Doesn't mean don't be yourself, especially when this podcast is out of Kayfabe.
You know who would've worked well with Dean? 22 year old Brock Lensar not middle aged Brock Lesnar lol if you see his older stuff when he was young, man did it put up a show. . None of that suplex city bs but actual moves lol
Pulling teeth? Ohh you mean precisely what Steve has been having to do this whole entire time trying to garner anything remotely close to a concise answer?
There was no way it was going to be an "epic" match, and no way that it should. Dean Ambrose shouldn't be able to go head to head with Lesnar. It also shouldn't be a weapons match. (To borrow a quote, if you bring a chair, you'll still be fighting Lesnar but he'll have your chair.) What it could have been was a story about a machine and a man who's too crazy/stubborn/dumb to give up. It should have ended quickly but not before Lesnar points down to Ambrose and looks over to Paul and laughs as if to say, "Can you believe this idiot?" before F5ing him into next week. That's the match that pushes forward both narratives. Not the forgettable match we got.
In other words : "I wanted to lose about 2.5 liters of blood in that match and Brock wasn't down with that."
more like brock only wanted to suplex and collect a paycheck. what he's been doing for 10+ years
Moxley wasn't even bleeding like that in WWE, so why would he do that back then? 🤦♂️
@@Slacker4Life3And Moxley? Bleeding every week and being a terrible wrestler who thinks he’s some badass
@@Slacker4Life3 Yup, more like Brock knows how to make money by drawing people and a crowd. Something which wrestlers today and smarks don't get.
@@1234userkillsat the cost that he can't stand even 10 minutes of fighting and on top of that his fights (unless they are stipulations) are bad one thing does not take away the other
Austin felt like he was pulling teeth getting an interview out of ambrose
Because he was I just don’t get why someone would go to do an interview and just be shy to say anything.
@@CodeSiber Ambrose is a chill guy, he's quite guy, he's like Robert De Niro you know, have you seen his interview he does not say much, he gets to the point and states the obvious, not everyone has an up beat interview.
@@TheHattaru I get that but you'd expect Dean/Jon to take this opportunity to show a little bit of charisma and what he can do as a character. Especially as being WWE Champion at the time. It's not just an interview, it's a behind the scenes podcast that millions of people were watching. I mean Stone Cold literally sat there and challenged him to show some fire and passion and Dean/Jon just kinda shrugged his shoulders and mumbled nonsense. It just wasn't a great look at the time for someone who the company had just put their faith into.
@@CodeSiber well the story is this: dean told either austin or the producers not to bring up his family or childhood and austin did and then dean just shut up from there and shit went downhill
@@akuma4u That makes sense cos Jon is a mostly private person. He doesn’t feel like the world needs to know a bunch about his personal life which is why his social media usage is low. If he wants the world to know something he will let the world know on his terms which honestly is more than fair.
Pulling teeth, stylistic disconnect, being met with laziness... yeah Austin knows exactly what Dean’s talking about in this interview :)
um can u explain plz???
@@dctfgltjatsmdssgmmrajl5572 same
44daggers44, um random guy wants u 2 explain as well
@@dctfgltjatsmdssgmmrajl5572 Austin’s pulling teeth trying to get an interesting interview out of Dean.
@@44daggers44 because Jon told Austin's producers not to bring up anything about his family before the interview, and they did anyway. Of course he's not gonna give his best for the interview
Imagine if Brock wanted to give this match his all. Would have been tons of highlight reels
@Jack Walsh Dean would've put up a fight bro, you don't know what Dean is Capable of
@Jack Walsh laugh all you want but it's true, ofcourse Brock would still win but he it won't be as easy as you think, no professional wrestler would get beaten up that easily in a real fight
@Jack Walsh oh look another moron that thinks actually putting effort into a match means you have to straight shoot. No shit a former UFC heavyweight champion could shoot kill Jonathan Goodman if they wanted. Nobody cares and that's not even close to the real point.
@Jack Walsh lmao good thing wwe is fake and they're just trying to entertain people not actually kill each other. you're argument is so bad its like saying "lmao this singer couldn't last a minute with the UFC champion her music sucks lol"
Deans overrated shut up mark
I'm glad AEW exists to quarantine these guys
No one watches that 💩 show.
@@BlackFaithProduction The sickos do
WWE marks man
This comment is so true it hurts.
Ambrose/Moxley is a massive mark and never let go of that trash wrestling CZW (who are all ECW wannabes that even Paul Heyman didn't acknowledge) and is so apparent once he got to AEW and Tony Khan gave him all the creative freedom to show who he truly was.
That and Dark side of the ring where he literally says that Vince would kill to have someone like Nick Gage on his program who had a connection with the fans like he does. He literally tries to put over Nick Gage, a crackhead criminal who literally tried to kill David Arquette in the ring because he was jealous of him and took advantage of the situation, even though Arquette told him not to take liberties with him in that match.
@@BlackFaithProduction
I do
When it comes to Brock Lesnar matches. It's all for if Brock is interested or not. Like his matches with AJ Styles or Daniel Bryan, Brock wanted those matches and so he showed up and did his job. But when it's something he doesn't want he just doesn't care.
Exactly
Which is fucking stupid.....
He only wrestles a few times a year, and gets paid the most, he should at least put some interest and effort in every match.
Brock doesn't love the sport, he just wants to make money from it.
@@dhenderson1810 lmao everyone wants to make money. And it’s not a “sport”
@@ITSHIM1294 You obviously don't love professional wrestling if you don't get what I mean.
You want to see Dean Ambrose's vision for this match ? Watch Kenny Omega vs Jon Moxley at Full Gear .. Jesus O_O
Dean is an asshole, he pissed off Lesner and this’s the result
@@nosoyelrey5991 he is an asshole and that’s why we love him!!!!
@@nosoyelrey5991 How did he piss of Lesner? Brock wasn't motivated that's all
@@mitchellsommer2321 really!! He wasn’t motivated because he was pissed off and their is couple of wrestlers talked about Dean, and go watch Paul talked with Austin about this match
@@mitchellsommer2321 on what grounds? Based on the way dean was on this podcast, you can tell he took the same attitude with Brock.
"Brock's gonna Brock, he's all about Brock"
Yeah, that about sums him up.
It's not that he is all about himself, so much as it is that Brock begrudgingly participates in a profession for which he does not actually love. Thus, his attitude, be it when re-negotiating his contracts or pertaining to certain events/match-ups, is along the lines of, 'Okay, you want me? Here's what I will be paid, here's how many dates a year I'll show up, and here's what I'm willing and not willing to do.' That WWE has continually met those terms is more of an indictment on them than it is Brock. I'm not defending him, I am just pointing out that we shouldn't be surprised when he comes off as selfish. He seemingly doesn't love this occupation and wishes he could so something else for the same low risk and workrate; which in my own adrift estimation is why we get perspectives such as this one from Ambrose.
@@Thforklift126 Agree but only a slight problem. Brock in his contract was able to do pretty much whatever he want. And I mean creative freedom, who he wants to face, whether he wins or loses, gets the title on him or not (I think), etc. The guy has some blame in this, and while Vince is the main reason why he's world champuon 8 months at a time, he still has a lot of things he can do to entertain or please himself with. The roster hasn't been filled with so much talented wrestlers, and your telling me not even a handful of those guys are interesting to work with Brock? You get what I'm saying?
Seeing this comment after he just put over Cody.
@Thforklift126 This aged poorly, like real poorly. Dude doesn't even want to go back to UFC anymore.
@@Thforklift126aged sooo bad
The reality is : Lesnar knew that he was going to fight in the UFC in a couple of months at that point, so he didn't want to risk an injury. That's why he chose to not do shit in that match. Also, he wanted to work with Wyatt, not Ambrose.
Bray Wyatt vs Brock Lesnar would've been alot more meaningful and more interesting, but this guy, mmeehh
That’s no excuse, Brock could’ve made that match more interesting to say the least, it looked like he didn’t even try. Sure it’s a hardcore match, but Brock is a pro at this stuff, and it’s wrestlemania, so no excuse for this match to suck.
And there’s the truth. Still a shame.
@@AneesSarwar34 I think not wanting to risk injury, especially when you plan to compete in UFC, is a pretty sound excuse
@@TWDaryl Especially when he was going to make more off of that fight than the WM32 match.
He looks miserable in this when he started talking about being creatively stiffled
He's always like this
Most moody teenagers get like that when faced with the realization that their "art" isnt actually any good.
Thank god they didn’t listen to him
@@seraphimdunn well I hope you get better at your art then when you grow up
@@seraphimdunn what art have you made that anyone gives a fuck about
This match could’ve been just as entertaining as cm punk vs Brock lesnar if not more, but Brock didn’t care and phoned it in. I’ve seen when Brock cares, and it’s damn entertaining.
Like his match with aj styles and Daniel Bryan
Brock just didn't take dean seriously. And honestly why would he
Its because around that time he was planning on going back to the ufc and didn't want to risk injuring himself but Jon was right it could have been something fucking epic and he didn't even want brock to take any dangerous bumps he just wanted him to give out the dangerous bumps and pretty much destroy him mox is a fucking physco 😂
@@josiahlutchman4913 because when he channel his inner Moxley his as extreme as Brock Lesnar. Dean wouldn't be able to beat Brock in a real ufc fight or a boxing match but Lesnar wouldn't be able to beat Dean at a real street match
@@snacku5706 are you off your trolley?
cogratulations Dean and Renee on your upcoming new addition.
My expectations going into this were Brock destroying Dean in so many different and brutal ways but being frustrated that he couldn't put him out...in the end, he eventually does but Dean gains his respect in the process and is the real star of the match, probably of that Wrestlemania....shame how it turned out.
Dean is right, he had the potential to make it the most epic match of the night, but guess what Brock doesn't wanna do anything except doing suplexes.
He was going back to UFC in a couple months and didn’t wanna risk injuries. Still not an excuse for the piss poor match, it at least he had a reason instead of laziness.
@@davidjohnson-gs9je that reason would hold more weight if he didn't literally do that fight for no reason cuz he can't pass a drug test and got the results thrown out
No! It would have looked like Indy trash wrestling if Dean had his way!
@@ishmael802 Yeah and with Brock all we get is suplexes, punches, and short matches. Boring as hell, just like Brock has been since he came back.
@@JRMAV1 his match with Daniel Bryan at SS 2018 was of the greatest matches of last decade
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He's the perfect opponent for a guy like New Jack 🤣🤣🤣
New Jack would eat him alive 🤣
Dean Ambrose proves that you can have too much and not enough hair at the same time
This match had so much potential
I’m really happy he left the company because now he looks so happy
I'm really happy he left the company
Ha ha ha
And hes hogging the world title there in aew boring actual talent unlike himself.his run has brought the rating down in every segment he is in.aew should have known why wwe lost faith in him,he just doesnt have it
Now he's ruining aew. Hope he lose to omega soon
@@wingedhussar1453 This is a good point. You can see why WWE didn't utilise certain talent as they show their weaknesses in AEW quite prominently. Moxley, Miro, Cody Rhodes (not always, but he's very bland), and now Jericho's abysmal year. At least Jericho showed promise initially, but now I know why he was never "top dog"
The problem was the envision of the match itself. From Dean vs WWE’s way of looking at things. I would imagine Dean’s envision of the match was, as he already said, Brock can kill Dean with his barehands at any minute. So, where the tables can turn, is just destroying him with weapons. Yes he can’t win without them, but that’s why the street fight works to his advantage. That’s when the tables turn, you really think Dean will win, then Brock just hits an F5 out of nowhere and wins. Both men are beaten up. Both men went through hell.
Unfortunately for Dean, that’s not how Brock Lesnar has been booked since his return in 2012. Brock was going to, and did destroy him without Dean really doing much of anything in that match besides a *few* weapon hits. That’s it. And that’s how Lesnar has been booked since he came back. That’s just the fact that Brock was going to come in and pummel him then leave like the Beast WWE tries to bring him out to be.
Stone Cold serves up great questions! He’s a great interviewer.
Brock had a UFC fight coming up. I believe it was against Mark Hunt. He very obviously didn't want to do anything that would risk a serious injury and likely didn't view Ambrose as somebody worth his time.
WWE shouldn’t have booked it as a hardcore/street fight if it was just gonna be a pretty standard fare match. Regardless of who’s responsible for it being crap they misadvertised it
THEN WWE SHOUDLN?T have booked that match
Brock didn't think high enough of you
Seth Rollins the only member of the shield to beat Brock Lesnar at wrestlemania
Also Roman reigns
@@Kushal_kumara_rao at wrestle mania
@@lilrich5332 even Roman defeated him at wrestle mania now Paul haeyman is with Roman reigns
@@Kushal_kumara_rao when
@@lilrich5332 just check you’ll come to know
Bork Laser can be a lazy ass wrestler when he want to.
“Brock’s gonna Brock. He’s all about.. Brock.”
Brock doing the same thing for years: squash matches with German suplexes and F5s.. Don't make UFC excuses, Brock had been doing the same lazy matches for 6 years.
Brock fans don’t want to except the truth that their boy is a lazy, overhyped untitled prick with a mediocre MMA record.
Still people wants him.. Still got the biggest bucks in company.. Still a bad ass...
His Squash matches have been few and far in between in years. A quick match =/= a squash match. Ricochet and Kofi (moreso Ricochet) being examples of an actual squash
@@JRMAV1 this "lazy overhyped entitled" guy is the biggest draw in all of wrestling for a reason.
@Anonymous Haha Not Really? Brock can deliver good matches But needs to motivated to do so.
To the people who are saying that stone cold was asking dean personal questions, IT IS AN INTERVIEW! and dean ambrose is a public figure you should handle any interview professionally and not let your feelings get in the way, don’t do an interview if you don’t want to be asked questions!
I remember, I was so pumped for this. This was the match to look forward to imo. And I was so disappointed. Was done with WWE was done with Lesnar. That was like the final straw from me to go like fuck this. (haven't watched WWE in over four years.)
I kept watching only because Lesnar wasn't in the main event. And while Roman Reigns for the longest of time was genric and boring, the guy at least had a unique look, decent moveset, and an incredible workrate. But when Brock didn't lose his Universal Title at Mania 34, that's when I almost stopped watching all of wrestling for like 5 months. Until ALL IN happened, where I was able to go to in person, and my love for Pro Wrestling flourished again. And ALL IN was the predecessor of AEW (All Elite Wrestling), and I've been watching AEW, Impact, and NJPW every week. Haven't watch WWE for 3 years.
You have surely missed out great matches 🤷🏽♂️ especially Smackdown in 2021.
@@kennythetrend3688 people watch Impact? 😂
@@JoseAguilar-hl3ny Yes, because it isn't as bad as everyone says it is. Impact was only really bad in 2017 when they had those ugly ass green ropes.
Hard to believe coming from a guy whose name is literally WWE Rules
This whole interview felt like a disconnect in style.
After seeing thjat Jon basically just wants to do indie style hardcore matches every time, I can imagine why Brock and Vince weren't going to let him turn the WM main event into a non-sensical hardcore match and that is probably also why Brock was reluctant to go along with any other ideas he might have had also.
It wasn't a main event though.
Dean/Jon wanted to make the match memorable for the fans but everything he suggested got shut down the build was awesome but the match in my opinion was a 7/10 they could have added more but they made it yet another disappointing outcome
This is why Dean never got past a certain level in the WWE. He wanted to do shit that gets you over in bingo halls of 100 dudes all wearing matching Bullet Club shirts, not shit that will get you over with an arena of thousands.
@@Kalel2.0lol say for marks not for fans because a great match can be achieved without blood and if lesnar wanted he can really busted his face open but then he and some marks would have thrashed lesnar and tbh let's see what moxley is doing in aew he had made a joke of himself 😂😂😂
@@sayandas3939lol moxley was in the list of top wrestlers in the world multiple times after he was in aew. you have no clue
The Wrestling Plumber.
Coming back to this, I can see why Brock ignored him. Probably wanted an exploding death match
If Brock Lesnar is Lazy then I’m a damn Unicorn Beaver that Poops Nacho Cheese.
Brock didn’t want in on Dean’s bullshit, mudshow match.
Brock and Paul Saw the bullshit coming 4 years ahead
Ambrose was in a tough situation doing this. he was pretty pissed off at a lot of stuff in the company at the time, but they just made him world champion and he was about to be the face of smackdown. had to tow the line but knew politically, he was pretty damn low on the totem pole
itd be like Damien Priest going on a podcast after winning the title and saying he was pissed that Cody dragged down his recent match. company wouldn't be happy with that either
Who else is here after Dean Ambrose left wwe..... And probably missing him
I think I'm the only person in the Internet Wrestling Community who liked this interview.
Dean is being nice about it the match could been the best on the card but brock being brock call the shots and didn't want the kind of match the fans deserved.
Because this guy is a jobber. Bray Wyatt is a much bigger talent
Why isn’t this episode no longer on the broken skull sessions on peacock?
Dude is the Kurt Cobain of wrestling
don't disrespect kurt like that lol
Traz mais coisas do podcast Zuera. ❤
After 4 years of Moxley in AEW, no wonder Lesnar wasn’t interested. He isn’t into that ridiculous hardcore crap. He probably didn’t want the MMA community to make fun of him for playing with light tubes and pizza cutters
Why would Lesnar want to tarnish himself by working a czw match with someone who should still be in the indies????
Lesnar knew this guy was a joke
And could get his ass kicked by anyone in any bar
Its like he knew he is going to loose at the end of the day because obviously brock wont take it to loose from ambrose but ambrose wanted to loose in an epic way but brock was to lazy to create a proper story line and proper moments to make that match epic
I always thought WWE was salty that Ambrose had a better match with HHH than Roman and Rollins did. Oddly enough though Roman and Rollins had better matches with Brock. For whatever reason, Brock just never cared for him.
Also post-Shield split, Ambrose was the 2nd most over babyface (after Bryan) and Rollins was the best heel while Roman was just meh.
This didn't sit well with WWE who wanted Roman to be their guy and made Ambrose look like his side kick in 2014-2016.
Don’t blame Brock for not wanting to have a glorified indy/deathmatch at WrestleMania
Than why they call them wrestling if they’re not much physicality out there.
@@mrchowdhury4738 Have you ever watched a death match?
@@mrchowdhury4738 they call it wrestling cause people tell a story in a ring. Playing with light tubes and pizza cutters is ridiculous as hell and it makes wrestling seem faker than it already is
Legit.
@@ITSHIM1294 amen, also the guy asking why isn't physical in a brock Lesnar match 😂. It's entertainment reason y it's a match. If it was a wrestling match he would fold half the locker room n head home.
I believe it would have been fine if it wasn't booked as a street fight and they didn't tease using a barbwire bat. Doing that made me believe it was going to be Foley Edge good and that is where the disappointment lies.
Looking back on their match at Mania that year, Dean's ideas definitely would have made the match better than it was. They didn't even have to do everything he suggested, at least some of it. For the people saying, "Look at what Mox does in AEW. Why would Brock wanna do that stuff?" Dean didn't say exactly what they would've been doing, just that he had ideas. If the UFC fight Brock had coming up was gonna cause him to mail it in, then WWE should have paired them with other people.
@KennyOmegasCavityWWE fans, (their is a difference between a wrestling fan, and a brand-loyal mark.) never want WWE to do anything remotely out there. I’m not saying do light-tube matches, THATS truly mud-show shit, what isn’t, is trying something more than just twatting each other with gimmick-ed “weapons”
Brock will go down in history as one of the laziest WWE stars of all time, which is a shame because when he was actually putting the work in he could pull off some of the best matches ever.
He'll go down as 'The Next Big Thing', the 'Beast Incarnate', the one and only Brock Lesnar.
@@023achilles Okay fanboy calm down
@@Stuart267 Who has been a better wrestler than Brock in the last 20 years? AJ Styles? Bryan Danielson? Brock is great because he can work with the untalented hosses that WWE has hired over the last decade plus, or with the talented wrestlers that are AJ or Bryan's size (provided they have a amateur wrestling background/pedigree).
@@023achilles Brock is lazy in many fights & he would never put an "untalented hosses" over, Hell he screwed Dean Ambrose out of a decent match, he only puts on a show when he can be bothered. As for Styles, Daniel Bryan he ain't in their league, they worked 300+ days a year, he barely works 10 days & when he does he rarely does anything different or surprising sure he had a great match with Bryan & also with CM Punk at the Summer Slam PPV but Brock only puts on a decent performance on very rare occasions
@@023achilles Paul Heyman, is that you?
Over 100,000 people good lord i can't imagine what traffic was like leaving
Im about to fall asleep with Dean watching him speak
I see where ambrose is coming from.. but at the same time u gotta give credit to brock hes been technically in the main event scene ever since he came back and when they had nothing for him they pitched him with dean who felt brock was lazy coz brock didnt wanna do anything but truth b told that brock didnt want that match he wanted to work a different program, a different match that looks main event worthy
Bro Dean Is so chill
Cause hes drunk here, Austin could tell by his disconnected incoherent answers.
Dean looks high af
I remember wwe network freezing this entire match 🙄
Jealousy is a crazy horrible thing
When Brock cares, he's legitimately one of the best in the business. When he doesn't care, you know you're probably in for one of the most disappointing matches on the card. I don’t know if it was anything against Mox. It probably had more to do with Brock having a big money fight at UFC 200 coming up and didn't wanna risk it.
I bet in the first 30 seconds of Moxley’s pitch for the match, he mentioned him getting busted open. Barbwire had to be in there somewhere too. 😂😂
Brock should never have had to fight that loser.
Faz a promo do Matth Riddle e o pette dunne quando iam lutar com a unisputed era pelo título de duplas do nxt
Looking at what Ambrose has done since leaving WWE, everyone owes Lesnar an apology 😂
SCSA just said "Wrestlelamia".
Good God Ambrose is intoxicated here. Slurring words looking all sloppy eyed. Incoherent ramblings that contradict themselves. Seeing him sober now really makes you see the difference
He is so much better as moxley on aew
I can under why Dean would be upset. He is used to putting on exciting matches. When Brock first came, he did fine in the ring but then he just became a bulldozer and that was it.
He’s a fucking snore fest? Exciting matches ambrose doesn’t know the meaning lmao
@@MvRxRapidzZx And Brock does? What exciting match has he put on? Brock's matches is like rolling a dice. It won't always land properly.
@@grinderthashiner8265 But when the dice does roll properly, you have his Stans kiss his ass and say "Well his matches with Daniel Bryan and AJ Styles were good, so that makes him not lazy" when literally every other match he's been in for the last 4 years has him doing the same routine. Eat, Sleep, Suplex, Repeat.
@@kennythetrend3688 Right, right, and more right!
@@grinderthashiner8265 Want to be friends on Instagram? Lol
This is still the weirdest fucking interview I’ve ever seen 😂😂
Stone Cold : Give me something!!
Ambrose best
was a helluva day ill tell ya
Brock Lesnar: "That doesn't work for me, brother."
Brock always feels so random to me. Heavyweight or cruiserweight, if he likes you he'll work with ya. If he doesn't then its a squash match for like 2-4 mins like we saw here with Dean
He looks like he doesn’t want to let loose out of fear of repercussions
Mox calling Brock lazy lol. Look at the careers those two guys have had, and how Brock keeps himself in shape. Look at Mox now. That’s rich.
If you're trying to make Mox's career sound like a failure, you're failing miserably.
And look at where brock is now lmao. Bros going to prison
@@lucasball7173 Brock hasn’t done anything criminal lol. Meanwhile Moxley had to go to rehab and definitely will go again
faz mais de promos do Seth Rollins, principalmente agora como Messiah
Brock and Vince’s love affair has only ever coursed problems !
Hell it drove Steve away and moxley never forgot about it either I’m sure
What? Injuries drove Steve away wym?
Steve didn’t leave because he had to put Brock over, he walked out because it was going to be on free TV
Roger no it was coz he hated putting people over never mind a new guy coming in. Austin is a cry baby always wants his way
@@fayahmad9063 no, Austin is about making money and there is no money in giving away that match on Raw or Smackdown or whatever.
@@fayahmad9063 Austin and Lesnar are friends! It made no sense whatsoever to give away a marquee match with no build up at all on free TV. Steve didn't have a problem with doing a job, he had a problem with how shit the creative was.
Not sure why people complain so much about this interview. This is how Jon Moxley always communicates, what you see is what you get, they knew that going in.
“Brocks ‘gna brock”
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Dean is Dean ....
IIRC, brock was on his way back to UFC for a part time run over there and he didnt want to risk any injury hence why the match was so shit
Then he should've told Vince to slow down the hype
@@mitchellsommer2321 you cant...its wrestlemania.
@@akuma4u Not that, Thy were building it like an attitude era death match. They could've easily slowed down the hype if they wanted to
@@mitchellsommer2321 man, u got a good memory. I dont remember any of that. Prob cuz it sucked so bad it didnt make a lasting impression.
@@akuma4u Yea They had numerous Segments with Dean meeting hardcore legends and then giving their blessing and their signature weapons and barely any of them was used. Can we blame Dean for expecting more when wwe did all of that
You wanna see his full potential ?
Watch his fight with Omega... Watch his fight from Full Gear. Watch any of his matches. That's what this guy is capable of. Not a single bad match.
He doesn't talks much. He is an introvert and generally doesn't opens up and people think he's an asshole for that.
Brock didn't fight because
1- He was going for UFC and didn't wanted to risk any injury.
2- Mox wasn't as big of a deal in Brock's eyes so he didn't give a shit.
3- In the end, Brock does what he wants to.
Mox isn't lazy, he isn't untalented.
If you think he is untalented, well, he isn't the type of guy who suplexes 79 times and 69 F5s. He has an actual moveset.
The sad thing is that brock can actually have good matches. 2000's brock was great. Its boring and uninteresting now with brock
Mox is sorta untalanted especially since most of the connection with fans is threw your actions,he doesnt act himself like he cares and his run in aew looks like the most uninspired lazy run I've ever seen of a world champion ,hes now buried dozen of wrestler with more potential then him,even triple h reign was better as triple h is a much better more dedicated wrestler
@@wingedhussar1453 the fuck u talking about?? who did mox bury? i can think of only hager
@@jamesallen8722 everyone hes faces the whole time as reign
@Gully Side hater he has consistent bad rating in segments hes in
Y'all acting like Dean gave one word answers, plus he ain't very outgoing, and he had the WWE title so he had to be on the podcast cus when your the champ u have responsibilities others don't. Doesn't mean don't be yourself, especially when this podcast is out of Kayfabe.
Brock went into business for himself this time. It was a shame. Could've been a great match
And now we've seen in AEW the crap he must have been suggesting 😂
you mean multiple 4 and 5 star matches? look at his matches in njpw too
@@AyushBhadourialmao 5 star matches according to who?
Ambrose sounds different
Brock being lazy nooo I don’t believe that😏
Me too.. 😏😏
@@matta8569 😂What Matt said
@Haiiro what Matt A said😂.
he sound high af
Is dean drunk or stoned?
Probably both. What a junkie.
Is Jon slightly high? Was that the whole problem?
Funny how Brock wasn’t willing to plan anything in that match but was willing to bust his head open against Cody at Backlash
Brock had a UFC fight coming up so he didn't want to risk it.
You know who would've worked well with Dean? 22 year old Brock Lensar not middle aged Brock Lesnar lol if you see his older stuff when he was young, man did it put up a show. . None of that suplex city bs but actual moves lol
Brock lesnar vs Jon Moxley different story
Pulling teeth? Ohh you mean precisely what Steve has been having to do this whole entire time trying to garner anything remotely close to a concise answer?
I love you Stone Cold Steve Austin by Steve Irungu Jermaine
There was no way it was going to be an "epic" match, and no way that it should. Dean Ambrose shouldn't be able to go head to head with Lesnar. It also shouldn't be a weapons match. (To borrow a quote, if you bring a chair, you'll still be fighting Lesnar but he'll have your chair.)
What it could have been was a story about a machine and a man who's too crazy/stubborn/dumb to give up. It should have ended quickly but not before Lesnar points down to Ambrose and looks over to Paul and laughs as if to say, "Can you believe this idiot?" before F5ing him into next week. That's the match that pushes forward both narratives. Not the forgettable match we got.
Daniel Bryan did a smaller guy vs Lesnar match right, in my opinion.
@Brown N' Proud Dothead I'm not a huge Daniel Bryan fan. I'm just talking about my opinion of one match, not pretending I'm a wrestling expert.
@Brown N' Proud Dothead How? Explain
@@mitchellsommer2321 he has a fetish for big sweaty men
@@wuthurer Yea
EVEN BROCK TALK A HELL OF A LOT MORE AND Y'ALL SAY HE HATES TALKING
I wonder if Ambrose is drunk or stoned, or both.
Looking back, he probably wonders that, too.
Dean's interview skills are as bad as Roman's promo skills
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2017 Roman not 2020 Roman