The craziest thing to me is that so many people in WWE talk shit about how "violent" ECW was and how guys tore their vl bodies up for no money... but then you look at but promotions match for match and look at guys careers in ECW and WWE and the number of stores injuries in WWE are 5 times that of ECW. Its not even a matter of opinion, it is crystal clear that working in WWE is significantly more dangerous than ECW and that as a talent you are exponentially more likely to have a career altering inury with WWE. Its crazy bc they even fooled the WWE into thinking what they were doing was dangerous when really it was more smoke than fire lol. Guess at ECW experienced way more papercuts, and way less car wrecks. That's the best way to describe it.
As much as i love Jim Cornette, this is what he doesnt understand. The wrestlers all came together as a team to lift ECW to new heights. They are a brotherhood and dont care if their personal name is chanted, they are ECW.
I always thought it was interesting how similar Cornette and Heymans' back stories were so similar. Both started by photographing wrestling shows on their own, and got hired by the independent promoters to do so
Ecw doesn't have to be a sub genre or just extreme there were some bad incidents etc... but it by no means takes away from what those men done night after night I still remember seeing Sabu in magazines at like 6... would eventually get to meet and shake his hand
Sabu and Rhyno are the two most underrated ECW guys that should’ve been bigger names than they were. As well as Raven and Taz should’ve been bigger names than they were. Only RVD was the only homegrown ECW singles talent that became a big star
I mean what more did you want from rhino. They tried to push his title run probably more than he deserved to be honest. And as much as I loved Sabu because he was my first memory as a kid watching ECW in secret, the dude was butt cheeks from a technical standpoint LOL
Maybe they didn't get over to WWE because they couldn't wrestle. Sandman couldn't wrestle his way out of a paper bag. For all those exciting, death defying leaps,Sabu was a botchfest in the ring. New Jack just clobbered everyone with weapons.
I agree to a degree but there is hella wrestlers that didnt wrestle great. ultimate warrior, hogan, i mean wcw had david arquett as the champ wtf (he can work a good match now) shit nia jaxx is trash and shes a main storyline on wwe right now. Its not just the wrestling in american pro wreatling its storylines. If one wants to see great matches one watchea the japan stuff. Just mho
@@chadcload1349I was just going to say clown shows like Hogan and that idiot Ultimate Warrior or arguably the most pathetic entering performance of all time. Even as an 8 year old I realize this which is why I didn't get into wrestling until 5 years later sneaking the ECW broadcast after my bedtime LOL by and large most ECW guys were trash but then you have dudes like RVD among many others who are absolute all timers
@@chadcload1349the irony in you’re statement is that Hogan actually could work, and he showed it off when he was in Japan. Hogans work in the states is because that was demanded of him
@@the6footplustree75i need to check out some of his stuff from japan, all ive ever seen is body slam, big boot,leg drop. Any matches you could recomend?
ECW was something really special. I am not sure we would have gotten the wrestling boom of the late ninetees without it. I is amazing to think of how short of a run it actually was.
ECW did what most promotions didn’t do and that’s be unique. Whenever something got over in another company all the other companies would try to copy it but ECW was one of the first to have Lucha wrestling and target a more mature audience.
Cesaro (Claudio Castignolli) was the biggest bag WWE ever dropped. Every time he had momentum they stamped on it. Any gimmick that worked? Stomped on. In ring expertise? Stomped on. The five language (count it) gimmick? Stamped on. He was very fortunate to go to AEW where his talent shines. I still have misgivings about HHH, I think he might have learned how to book him better like Nakamura is now. I guess we'll never know. I wish the best for Claudio and hope he gets his world title run one day
Claudio/Cesaro is both terrible on the mic and has little to no charisma. Those two things are more important to a character, than in ring work. Some guys just don't have "It" and that's ok, they can have a long career, they just won't ever be top guys. That's just my thoughts on Cesaro/Claudio
I think Claudio has charisma, it's more a quiet one cos he's not a great speaker and it's not very animated, it's more in his expressions and how he works but i do think he needs more stories catered to him, i don't understand why they can't work with his strengths and around his weaknesses. Like you said, look at what they're doing with Nakamura now, I'm a big fan of his now more than most other times
@@orangemaniabrother2232 Agree 100%. He's been booked really well on AEW and just needed a non-scripted license to shine. Felt like he got stubbed any time he got momentum (remember the Andre battle royal and they had Paul who was managing him just go on about Brock the whole time instead)
I was gonna point to Lance Storm as a guy who really could - and should - have been a big star. But it is hard to argue Sabu. He was so innovative and revolutionary and he really sacrificed his health for his art, i.e. for the fans. I suppose you can draw some parallels to Dynamite Kid in this regard. Though it sounds like Sabu was a lot nicer.
Pretty sure ECWs last PPV the PPV company didn't pay ECW, I forget why, but something along the lines of businesses doing shady illegal things, but can afford lawsuits lol
I completed this as soon as the clock turned midnight in the UK. How has this video been up already for 15 hours? Do you release them by the country’s time zone?
ALL the ECW talents were AWESOME and would have made it huge in WWE..... if backstage politics hadn't jumped in and derailed most of them. To give a few examples: 1) Raven coming into WWE should have been a big deal. He was hot at the time, but backstage politics derailed him since Vince McMahon hated Raven due to his Johnny Polo days since allegedly he was hanging out with Shane and getting him drunk. 2) Sabu should have been huge during the 2006 ECW revival, but backstage politics crept in and he was butting heads with Stephanie McMahon over creative decision stuff (she wanted him to talk and give very long promos, Sabu didn't want to do that and wanted to stay true to his character and remain silent and let his actions tell the story. Long story short, it results in Sabu being kicked off of December to Dismember). Those are just two examples of many. Even ECW itself got screwed over by backstage politics during 2006 into 2007. If Vince had just let ECW be ECW, it would have been a HUGE hit. Instead, backstage shenanigans derailed the ECW revival and it failed because of that. POINT I"M TRYING TO MAKE HERE... ECW in general (the talent and the brand itself) could have gotten over in a huge way if backstage politics hadn't derailed it. Prior to the ECW revival, those ECW DVDs that WWE was putting out around 2003 / 2004 were selling like hot cakes. People loved it, which led to ECW One Night stand 2005 and 2006 and the ECW revival. WWE had a golden goose and they let backstage crap harm it.
Heyman has a great mind for the business. With that said, i never thought rqven was that deep as a character lol. A great character for that time (90s grunge smells like teen spirits anti establishment) I would have been shocked if that character didn’t have a drug addict or alcoholic household as a kid lol.
Sabu vs Undertaker, pick any year 95/96/97/98/99... Would have been incredible for different reasons with each version of Taker. Why they never brought him in when they were constantly looking for new opponents for Undertaker is dissapointing.
Thank you for constantly cutting away from the one decent looking, in focus camera, to the other dogshit out of focus ones. Really adds to the production value
In 2016, it could be argued that Cesaro was one of the most underrated workers on WWE’s roster. Now that he’s Claudio in AEW/ROH it’s easy to see why he never broke into the main event scene
How disingenuous is this thumbnail? Sabu was over in WWE. He got let go because he got caught with RVD with a pharmacy worth of pain pills on them. British TH-camrs love to reinvent how fans actually felt just to spin a video. Shameless.
I’ve watched three episodes of this since it came on Netflix and I have to say the WWE has no generational talent whatsoever. There’s a couple of a guys who have flashes here and there. But man, everyone doing a rikishi butt smash. Everyone doing super kicks. There’s no diversity of styles. The acting isn’t there for like 90% of the roster. I’m still entertained but I’m like “meh” the whole time.
Paul Heyman was really like "I'll pay you in exposure". and the Prima Donna egotists ate it up because I feel like attention trumps money even if money is still a huge factor.
People like Sabu and RVD dont love the business. They state this almost infinitely that its a job and about money soley first. cant help but think that more mundane view may have played a part in limited/roofed success compared to guys like cena or taker who love the business and could even be considered marks as rvd said about the boys in back who love business. Generational talent nonetheless
I kinda respect it to be honest, money really should come first and if you happen to enjoy you're job, thats a definite plus. Professional wrestling is a very demanding job and if you're in the business, you should put money above pleasing everyone in my opinion.
this is completely and utterly incorrect. RVD has said on multiple occasions that he loves wrestling, loved ECW, and had many influences growing up that shaped his wrestling career. Sabu literally wrestled for over two decades and has wrestling in his blood. He lives and bleeds pro wrestling and has sacrificed so much for the business he loves The thing is pro wrestling is a competitive sport and only the tough get pushed. Triple H, Cena, Hogan, Rock, Batista are all individuals who cared about their persona and werent afriad to run ppl over in order to keep their spot Shelton Benjamin, a generation talent, has said that he never won the wwe championship because he was too nice. RVD has said multiple times that he does not care for the politics of wrestling Sabu was meant to get a Brock Lesnar-like, part-time push, but refused because he wanted to wrestle more often.
he must be joking about sabu. the guy botched more than half his wwe matches and relied on the hardcore aspect too much. he couldn't cut a decent promo and looked a bit old from all the drugs if i'm being completely honest.
ECW was dogshite, I watched November to Remember 98 just 2 days ago and it was the same as whenever I watch them just bad, stupid finishes a 1000 run ins, they had great characters but the matches for the most part was shite.
@ they did a gimmick where the referee strained his shoulder getting to 3 for fs, Sunny as a shite referee and wft with spike and mable and fs the whistle every time Fonzie is on. Best thing I’ve ever seen from ECW is the Sabu vs Funk barbwire matche was awesome but very few bits standout
i mean he ain’t lyin. for a 10 year old watching ECW, after the show you were like holy shit this is INCREDIBLE! these guys are tough as balls, this stuff is insane, this is awesome! it was shit we never seen before and it was great and i highly appreciate those guys doing that for us 🫡 💯 they made a very big impression on wrestling and all us kid and teenagers forever
Is Paul Heyman the greatest mind in the business today? Let us know in the comments below!
After watching ladies and Gentlemen my name is Paul heyman , hel yeah he was one of the greatest minds in the biz
🤘❤️
Today=Heyman
All Time=Vince
Exactly.
him and jim cornette combined as a leadership team would make great shows
The fact yall still eating off an interview from 2016 is WILD! 😂 BIG SALUTE! Lol
So….what are you doing here
@ 1.) I like Inside The Ropes.
2.) I like Paul Heyman
3.) I saluted them, I wasn’t hating, tf?
Mostly because it was pre-AEW with all its ridiculousness 😅
Eating what? Chips and salsa? 😂
I didn't think you were talking garbage! Even if this was the 3rd re-upload it's gold still lol.
Heyman said that almost like he knew he could get away with not paying people because he knew they loved this shit so much
I just left a similar comment. Blind loyalty.
Definitely 😂
i know this is old, but this is perfect heyman. def worth watching more than once
He’s still in the business thats saying something. ECW was a unique beast.
Paul Heyman is a F$%^&*@ Genius! Hearing his explain why no one else could have booked Raven was intoxicating. Paul is the best!
I love Paul Heyman doing his impressions of Stone Cold Steve Austin!🤣🤣🤣
I've noticed that everybody with tenure in the business tend to quote each other by using impressions.
The craziest thing to me is that so many people in WWE talk shit about how "violent" ECW was and how guys tore their vl bodies up for no money... but then you look at but promotions match for match and look at guys careers in ECW and WWE and the number of stores injuries in WWE are 5 times that of ECW. Its not even a matter of opinion, it is crystal clear that working in WWE is significantly more dangerous than ECW and that as a talent you are exponentially more likely to have a career altering inury with WWE. Its crazy bc they even fooled the WWE into thinking what they were doing was dangerous when really it was more smoke than fire lol. Guess at ECW experienced way more papercuts, and way less car wrecks. That's the best way to describe it.
Heyman killed that Stone Cold impression lmao
As much as i love Jim Cornette, this is what he doesnt understand.
The wrestlers all came together as a team to lift ECW to new heights. They are a brotherhood and dont care if their personal name is chanted, they are ECW.
I always thought it was interesting how similar Cornette and Heymans' back stories were so similar. Both started by photographing wrestling shows on their own, and got hired by the independent promoters to do so
Ecw doesn't have to be a sub genre or just extreme there were some bad incidents etc... but it by no means takes away from what those men done night after night I still remember seeing Sabu in magazines at like 6... would eventually get to meet and shake his hand
RVD has commented about not understanding why they'd chant ECW instead of RVD or whoever is in the ring.
I hear you, but chants don’t buy groceries.
@@Beer_Baron_ good thing I can afford groceries and more
4:12 that just sounds like blind loyalty because Paul was such a great motivational speaker who was horrible with handling his own company's finances
Honestly props to letting the speaker speak
Sabu and Rhyno are the two most underrated ECW guys that should’ve been bigger names than they were.
As well as Raven and Taz should’ve been bigger names than they were.
Only RVD was the only homegrown ECW singles talent that became a big star
I mean what more did you want from rhino. They tried to push his title run probably more than he deserved to be honest. And as much as I loved Sabu because he was my first memory as a kid watching ECW in secret, the dude was butt cheeks from a technical standpoint LOL
Thankfully, I have found a streaming service that has the entire ECW library. I relive it regularly.
What service offers ecw?
@legionforce1374 peacock has all WWE library which includes all or most of ecw library from I think 1993 on, it's awesome.
Sabu in his hey day was on a different level talent wise. His movesets was must see tv
Put this event's full length video already... it's been years.
Maybe they didn't get over to WWE because they couldn't wrestle. Sandman couldn't wrestle his way out of a paper bag. For all those exciting, death defying leaps,Sabu was a botchfest in the ring. New Jack just clobbered everyone with weapons.
I agree to a degree but there is hella wrestlers that didnt wrestle great. ultimate warrior, hogan, i mean wcw had david arquett as the champ wtf (he can work a good match now) shit nia jaxx is trash and shes a main storyline on wwe right now. Its not just the wrestling in american pro wreatling its storylines. If one wants to see great matches one watchea the japan stuff. Just mho
@@chadcload1349I was just going to say clown shows like Hogan and that idiot Ultimate Warrior or arguably the most pathetic entering performance of all time. Even as an 8 year old I realize this which is why I didn't get into wrestling until 5 years later sneaking the ECW broadcast after my bedtime LOL by and large most ECW guys were trash but then you have dudes like RVD among many others who are absolute all timers
@@chadcload1349the irony in you’re statement is that Hogan actually could work, and he showed it off when he was in Japan. Hogans work in the states is because that was demanded of him
@@the6footplustree75i need to check out some of his stuff from japan, all ive ever seen is body slam, big boot,leg drop. Any matches you could recomend?
Sabu, Sandman, and New Jack didn't need to be mat technicians. They were ENTERTAINING. That's what WWE failed to realize.
The greatest manager of this generation today
ECW was something really special. I am not sure we would have gotten the wrestling boom of the late ninetees without it.
I is amazing to think of how short of a run it actually was.
ECW did what most promotions didn’t do and that’s be unique. Whenever something got over in another company all the other companies would try to copy it but ECW was one of the first to have Lucha wrestling and target a more mature audience.
Cesaro (Claudio Castignolli) was the biggest bag WWE ever dropped. Every time he had momentum they stamped on it. Any gimmick that worked? Stomped on. In ring expertise? Stomped on. The five language (count it) gimmick? Stamped on. He was very fortunate to go to AEW where his talent shines. I still have misgivings about HHH, I think he might have learned how to book him better like Nakamura is now. I guess we'll never know. I wish the best for Claudio and hope he gets his world title run one day
Claudio/Cesaro is both terrible on the mic and has little to no charisma. Those two things are more important to a character, than in ring work. Some guys just don't have "It" and that's ok, they can have a long career, they just won't ever be top guys. That's just my thoughts on Cesaro/Claudio
I think Claudio has charisma, it's more a quiet one cos he's not a great speaker and it's not very animated, it's more in his expressions and how he works but i do think he needs more stories catered to him, i don't understand why they can't work with his strengths and around his weaknesses. Like you said, look at what they're doing with Nakamura now, I'm a big fan of his now more than most other times
@@orangemaniabrother2232 Agree 100%. He's been booked really well on AEW and just needed a non-scripted license to shine. Felt like he got stubbed any time he got momentum (remember the Andre battle royal and they had Paul who was managing him just go on about Brock the whole time instead)
I was gonna point to Lance Storm as a guy who really could - and should - have been a big star.
But it is hard to argue Sabu.
He was so innovative and revolutionary and he really sacrificed his health for his art, i.e. for the fans.
I suppose you can draw some parallels to Dynamite Kid in this regard. Though it sounds like Sabu was a lot nicer.
Paul really should have been paying his wrestlers
Can't pay them if it means the company goes under. I think it's public knowledge that pro wrestling is a hard business to make successful.
Pretty sure ECWs last PPV the PPV company didn't pay ECW, I forget why, but something along the lines of businesses doing shady illegal things, but can afford lawsuits lol
with what money?
You lose audio in the right channel around the 9:00 mark FYI
RVD and Sabu are probably my all time favorite 2 wrestlers from any promotion.
That "what" bit got my rocks off
10:50 Dominik mysterio
You got that right.
How did Paul Heyman not get killed by someone back in the day?
Because he could talk his way out of being killed
Sabuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!
I completed this as soon as the clock turned midnight in the UK. How has this video been up already for 15 hours? Do you release them by the country’s time zone?
Just listened to this. Right now we need Cesaro vs Gunther
ALL the ECW talents were AWESOME and would have made it huge in WWE..... if backstage politics hadn't jumped in and derailed most of them. To give a few examples: 1) Raven coming into WWE should have been a big deal. He was hot at the time, but backstage politics derailed him since Vince McMahon hated Raven due to his Johnny Polo days since allegedly he was hanging out with Shane and getting him drunk. 2) Sabu should have been huge during the 2006 ECW revival, but backstage politics crept in and he was butting heads with Stephanie McMahon over creative decision stuff (she wanted him to talk and give very long promos, Sabu didn't want to do that and wanted to stay true to his character and remain silent and let his actions tell the story. Long story short, it results in Sabu being kicked off of December to Dismember). Those are just two examples of many. Even ECW itself got screwed over by backstage politics during 2006 into 2007. If Vince had just let ECW be ECW, it would have been a HUGE hit. Instead, backstage shenanigans derailed the ECW revival and it failed because of that.
POINT I"M TRYING TO MAKE HERE...
ECW in general (the talent and the brand itself) could have gotten over in a huge way if backstage politics hadn't derailed it. Prior to the ECW revival, those ECW DVDs that WWE was putting out around 2003 / 2004 were selling like hot cakes. People loved it, which led to ECW One Night stand 2005 and 2006 and the ECW revival. WWE had a golden goose and they let backstage crap harm it.
I would love to sit a t table with Paul Heyman for sinner and just pick his brain for wrestling stories and opinions
God I hated heyman when I was younger, now I realize he’s goated
why is this barely getting posted?
EC'FN'W
Heyman has a great mind for the business. With that said, i never thought rqven was that deep as a character lol. A great character for that time (90s grunge smells like teen spirits anti establishment) I would have been shocked if that character didn’t have a drug addict or alcoholic household as a kid lol.
Paul Heyman is absolutely incredible
This interview from a decade ago or something?
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Hands down the greatest mind in wwe he can take a low card talent to wrestle mania main event status and has proven that
How did that work for Curtis Axel?
N A H
Sabu vs Undertaker, pick any year 95/96/97/98/99... Would have been incredible for different reasons with each version of Taker. Why they never brought him in when they were constantly looking for new opponents for Undertaker is dissapointing.
Thank you for constantly cutting away from the one decent looking, in focus camera, to the other dogshit out of focus ones. Really adds to the production value
I wish it was still around today
Just reuploading stuff now eh? Fuck it I'll watch anyways.
LMAO 1:16
If you closed your eyes you would think Stone Cold was there😂
People booing WWECW & TNA's ECW bit...did they forget how shit Shane Douglas' shows were?
Well they enjoyed it until they weren’t getting paid. Let’s not lie, Paulie.
If it weren't for ecw thered been no attitude era.
Hardcore Homecoming wasnt that bad mane
Raven...what could've been
Screw this crowd TNA had great ECW matches. They even had New Jack and Raven.
"If you have the WWE Network" ...not for much longer!
8 min mark.. you lose sound
Who am i to disagree with Paul Heyman but i dont see Cesaro as a top guy.
In 2016, it could be argued that Cesaro was one of the most underrated workers on WWE’s roster. Now that he’s Claudio in AEW/ROH it’s easy to see why he never broke into the main event scene
I love Paul but I can't listen to any shoot cos he's 100% of the time working you and I always feel like he's selling me something.
You got a source for that claim?
After the Giant Gonzalez nerve hold, there is nothing left. Anyone named Lester is finished. RIP Lester
I’m convinced he paid them in chronic and blow 😂
Na he just hired guys who had Philly connections and had it there for them to buy instantly
cocaine is expensive, dude.
How disingenuous is this thumbnail? Sabu was over in WWE. He got let go because he got caught with RVD with a pharmacy worth of pain pills on them.
British TH-camrs love to reinvent how fans actually felt just to spin a video. Shameless.
It's a business, feeling bad when marks let themselves get abused
Dude still owes people money from ECW
I’ve watched three episodes of this since it came on Netflix and I have to say the WWE has no generational talent whatsoever. There’s a couple of a guys who have flashes here and there. But man, everyone doing a rikishi butt smash. Everyone doing super kicks. There’s no diversity of styles. The acting isn’t there for like 90% of the roster. I’m still entertained but I’m like “meh” the whole time.
Another reason for ecws success was that Mainstream American wrestling was cringe embarrassing at the time.
there is no way you are old enough to remember that and just used that word.
@ It happens.
@charleswisconsin9196 They're not wrong though.
Was too extreme for wwe
what
paul telling the story of how he was a crook, good times
Paul Heyman was really like "I'll pay you in exposure". and the Prima Donna egotists ate it up because I feel like attention trumps money even if money is still a huge factor.
People like Sabu and RVD dont love the business. They state this almost infinitely that its a job and about money soley first. cant help but think that more mundane view may have played a part in limited/roofed success compared to guys like cena or taker who love the business and could even be considered marks as rvd said about the boys in back who love business. Generational talent nonetheless
I kinda respect it to be honest, money really should come first and if you happen to enjoy you're job, thats a definite plus. Professional wrestling is a very demanding job and if you're in the business, you should put money above pleasing everyone in my opinion.
this is completely and utterly incorrect. RVD has said on multiple occasions that he loves wrestling, loved ECW, and had many influences growing up that shaped his wrestling career.
Sabu literally wrestled for over two decades and has wrestling in his blood. He lives and bleeds pro wrestling and has sacrificed so much for the business he loves
The thing is pro wrestling is a competitive sport and only the tough get pushed. Triple H, Cena, Hogan, Rock, Batista are all individuals who cared about their persona and werent afriad to run ppl over in order to keep their spot
Shelton Benjamin, a generation talent, has said that he never won the wwe championship because he was too nice.
RVD has said multiple times that he does not care for the politics of wrestling
Sabu was meant to get a Brock Lesnar-like, part-time push, but refused because he wanted to wrestle more often.
I've heard him say both my friend. Not incorrect but i feel ya and have seen that also. @@iamkurazakii
@@dwightyboy5324agreed man.
So do you work for free ?
he must be joking about sabu. the guy botched more than half his wwe matches and relied on the hardcore aspect too much. he couldn't cut a decent promo and looked a bit old from all the drugs if i'm being completely honest.
Paul is a better speaker than our current prez sleepy Joe
Too bad Harris didn't win, she's a great speaker.
@stlfatman I would respectfully disagree. In my opinion we had no good choices.
Used car salesman. Nothing more.
It’s sad those performers worked for free.
ECW was dogshite, I watched November to Remember 98 just 2 days ago and it was the same as whenever I watch them just bad, stupid finishes a 1000 run ins, they had great characters but the matches for the most part was shite.
have fun being wrong. i guess someone's gotta be.
@ they did a gimmick where the referee strained his shoulder getting to 3 for fs, Sunny as a shite referee and wft with spike and mable and fs the whistle every time Fonzie is on.
Best thing I’ve ever seen from ECW is the Sabu vs Funk barbwire matche was awesome but very few bits standout
I dont get the love for ECW. People got hurt didnt get paid and 90% of the wrestlers didnt get anywhere in the wrestling world.
and their videogames totally sucked
Look inside the box. Heyman basically made a wrestling hotspot that still is hot decades after he left
because you're blind.
He’s full of shit lol
When do stop believing everything a Jew says? The second his lips start moving.
You can tell Paul Heyman is a great promoter because he convinces his workers they can feed their families with adulation.
lmao this is like the 30th time ya'll repost the same clip
i mean he ain’t lyin. for a 10 year old watching ECW, after the show you were like holy shit this is INCREDIBLE! these guys are tough as balls, this stuff is insane, this is awesome! it was shit we never seen before and it was great and i highly appreciate those guys doing that for us 🫡 💯 they made a very big impression on wrestling and all us kid and teenagers forever