Hickok - "If I actually teach you anything" - I just wanted to say that you have taught me an abundant amount about firearms, and a little bit on politics and plenty on how to just be a good guy. You're a fantastic example of the typical firearms guy. From when I learned the difference between isosceles and weaver stances, to never pulling a hammer on a revolver, to how NOT to hold a semi-auto, to all sorts of holster options, etc. I came, years ago, watching your vids when I first got interested with firearms. Now I'm a proud (and more importantly, safe and responsible) gun owner thanks much in part to you! You and John have done such a great job for the community as a whole. This is just one guys' thanks for all the hard work (Well, the editing in post, etc. I don't think you consider sending rounds down range "work!") -Gof
I have a LCR in 9mm. Great little gun. More powerful than 38 special less than 357. Moon clips load and unload faster nullifying one of the disadvantages of revolvers. LCR 9mm is useful on the hip, ankle or pocket. Good companion to have along.
This line of revolver videos is fantastic. I agree on the short range accuracy of revolvers compared to pistols. Recently, took my daughter to the range. She shot a glock 42, a SW 617 and a SW 686 with a 3" barrel. I was shocked but this tiny girl preferred the 686 hands down. Revolvers, even heavy steel models, might just be the handgun that can suit anybody.
FYI, you do not need moon clips to load and fire 9mm rounds in the LCR, but you need a rod or a pecil to eject the cases one by one because the ejector does not grab them.
Excellent presentation. I’ve owned my LCR for a couple of years and have run several thousand rounds through it. CCI Blazer 115 & 124gr have both had crimp-jump events but I still buy and shoot it for practice because it’s rare to jump and it’s cheap. My favorite practice ammo is Federal ‘American Eagle’ 70 grain lead-free ball. Very fast; very snappy. About twice the price of Blazers… My defense load is 3 rounds of Hornady’s Critical Defense Lite (hoping to deter) followed by 2 rounds of Underwood’s 95gr +P Xtreme Defense. I also carry 3 moon clips of the Underwood. Moon clips are fairly pricey and seem to be going higher. 3 for $15 three years ago; 3 for $20+ now. I’ve never tried aftermarket brands. Some ammo is too snug to fit, Fiocchi’s 115gr is a good example. It measures a few thousandths wider at the base and in the groove. Best to test before loading up ;) When cleaning I have learned to check tightness of the two #10 Torx screws (they hold the two main sections of the gun together; the lower one also allows the cylinder carrier to be removed). Also, a #5 Torx screw runs through the cylinder opening lever. All 3 should be checked frequently. I’ll probably use a low-strength thread-lock (like Loctite blue) in the future… That’s about it. I love this little revolver and tend to run about 250 rounds on a normal range day. Almost all practice is at 10 yards or closer. I enjoy shooting larger caliber longer barreled wheel guns also, but this LCR is just too much fun.
I've never commented but just wanted to let ya know I've enjoyed your videos for a long while. I'm a military retiree and after a hiatus from shooting, have gotten back into it. If i ever have a question on a firearm, you are one of the go-to guys. Thanks and keep up the good work.
Hickok, love your vidios. Just a tip. The new lcr 9mm does not require moonclips to fire. After expansion you may have to pop the shells out with a pencil, but the firearm will safely fire. Stay safe. Mike from Massachusetts.
Interesting thought about the moon clips. Arguably for the best concealment and convenience, the ultimate way to carry a revolver reload is a speed strip because it keeps the package as slim as possible. Not nearly as quick as a speedloader, but they are more concealable and convenient for carrying. Moon clips add in the fragility, if you carry it in your pocket it's not going to be as comfortable a speed strip, but it'll be smaller than most speedloaders, but the real downside compared to both is if you lean up against something or have it on a belt in a pouch and smack it against your car when you're getting in, you might end up with a reload that won't work when you need it.
Have to say I never knew that a round could "jump the crimp" at all. Thinking about it now makes perfect sense as to how it could happen, just never thought about it before. Thank you for teaching me something I never knew AGAIN Hickok. Your videos along with other firearms channels on youtube are what has got me into guns. Don't own any yet as I do not have the money, but when I have the income I will. Thank you again Hickok.
I hear what you are saying near the end about revolvers and old guys. I took my GP100 to concealed carry qualification recently since I tend to shoot it pretty well, i.e., in single action. However, the targets were black and I could not get a good sight picture (at age 62). Since I couldn't see the sights I just went for it in double action. I was finishing the various tests faster than the other folks with semi-autos. The instructor kept saying "no need to rush." When all was said and done every shot was on target. After scoring everyone the instructor said "You are pretty good with that revolver." Of course that made me feel good. A GP100 was my first handgun 35 years ago and I just find it to be a great shooter. I was better with it than my several autos until I recently got a Ruger SR1911.
The price of 38 special is outrageous compared to 9mm. It's more than 45 most places, and .357 is in another ballpark. That's why this gun is cool I think.
@@alexmaurice4274 it can be used without clips. Paul Harrel shoots it and discusses drawbacks and solutions in a LC9 comparison. Colion Noire fires an entire box in a 12 minute review with no moon clips. I love my LCR and bought a bunch of extra clips and capped tubes to hold them pre-loaded.
That's a nice 9mm, Ruger LCR, Hickok45. This is an excellent video, with Hickok45 explaining 'jumping the crimp.' Plus, a good explanation of how a moon-clip works, in a revolver, that's designed for moon-clips.
Hickok, when I did my review on this gun I did encounter the crimp jump issue. It is documented on my channel. I emailed my contact at Ruger and they recommended that I use 115 gr ammo in the gun. Great review as always sir!
I had the LCRx in .38 Special +P for one week before two defects on the frame came through. Ruger replaced the gun with any gun of my choice from Ruger. When I told my range about this they said that within the same month a new GP100 and a new SP101 both had similar frame issues (surprising as they had different construction) and both were replaced by Ruger. Then a LC9 literally fell into a number of parts at the range due to a slide defect. I absolutely love Rugers (I still own 3) but the new "lean manufacturing" they have started to use is seemingly a cost savings but also a quality issue.
I think that 9 mm is a very good option. Especially here in Europe where 9 mm is the commonest cartridge. Enough powerful and effective for self-defence (although it's extremely difficult to get gun permit if not for sporting purposes), used in pistols, so you don't need two different calibers - the same ammo. And last but not least - relatively cheap. I admire your vids hickok :-) Glad you are still on YT. I like your accent - Tennesse?
I've had crimp jump using Federal aluminum ammo. Use brass cased ammo only now. Moon clips are optional. The moon clip doesn't set the head spacing the cylinder is cut like a traditional rimless barrel. The cylinder is what sets the head spacing in this revolver. Handy little gun for sure. It also seems Ruger addressed issues older rimless revolvers had.
I just picked up an LCR 9mm . They are hard to find but a wonderful carry weapon. Yes, it is my backup to a Glock 19. The only ammo that I had crimp jump was CCI stuff. Great video as usual.
Snub noses are the coolest handguns in my opinion. Fell in love with this one in particular after seeing it on Breaking Bad. I have to say, there is no gun more worthy for Walt than a sexy 9mm such as the Ruger.
I have one of these like it a lot. Carrying a reload was a problem for a while. Now I carry a spare 5 in a soft nylon speedloader case on my belt. An unusual method in winter is in a pill bottle in my coat pocket. Each of these methods hold 2 moon clips. 9pm is more powerful than 38 plus lots of different loads available compared to 38. The 9mm case is shorter and you get full length ejection. I see lots of advantages.
The S&W 940 is a great gun . I bought one in 1992 because the police dept that I worked at would pay for your back up gun ammo if it was 9mm or .38. I was issued a Beretta 92F, so a revolver in 9mm made perfect sense. More power than a .38, real close to .357 out of a 1.87 inch barrel ,plus free ammo. I still have the Beretta 92F and S&W 940 today. Both are still great guns.........I wish S&W would make a 9mm, 5 shot, J Frame out of the Air Lite 11 OZ set up. I'd buy 3 of them with ZERO hesitation. However, I bought the 9mm LCR the day it came out. It's a great gun.
Love and respect this channel and love shooting the LCR 9mm. I’ve found this revolver is a little ‘choosy’ regarding ammo. Between it and the Mrs. G19 we’ve been able to shoot everything we’ve purchased. Fiocchi Range Dynamics 9mm 115gr FMJ doesn’t fit well. It’s diameter at the base and in the ring keep it from dropping in. If forced it’s a s-o-b to extract. I haven’t put the calipers to Federal HST 147gr yet but it would have had to be forced into the cylinder as well. (both issues using factory Ruger moon clips in like new condition) BTW: I found this video an excellent representation of what this revolver has to offer.
The most I've ever been affected by recoil was shooting the LCR 357 magnum, man that was brutal recoil. My friend let me shoot his and he was using buffalo bore ammo as well, phew!
I did not read all comments; I apologize if someone else brought this to your attention already. Below the cylinder release, the screw looks to be coming out, or at least loose. Big fan of your videos.
I own an LCRX in 9mm and have had the bullet pulling problem. Once during a re-qual for my permit. Some brands will and some wont. Another problem is steel cased ammo. In mine, the steel cases stick in the chambers and the moon clip keeps them from being poked out one at a time. Just went the other day to practice for a coming re-qual and using Blazer, had no problem with bullet pulling.
You are 100% correct on 9mm being a bit snappy in small pistols. Just compare a Sig 238 and 938. Also springfield 911 in 380acp and 9mm. Shooting 9mm makes the gun want to jump out of your hand, you have to readjust your grip after every shot. The 9mm 911 ended up slide biting me because I had a death grip on it. I know slide bites are just a kiss from your gun but I bleed all over it and it was a rental. I ended up buying the 380 since it was tamer on the recoil. 9mm is for full size guns!
You're getting the ballistics of a .38 +P- maybe. I carry .357 Mag, Gold Dot Short Barrel - 135 g, and they're equivalent to a 135+P 9mm. Yes, they're watered down a bit, because shooting anything hotter out of my 2.1 inch, 22 ounce, Smith 649 is just not for me....
I have a 9mm Ruger Speed Six I carried for years as an investigator and have hundreds of moon clips for it can't believe they were anywhere near 5 bucks a piece as the LCR ones are, even adjusted for inflation. Just seems 5 bucks each is a bit steep even at todays prices.
Heard that story about the bear as well Hickok. It was a Ruger Super Redhawk Alaskan in .454 Casull. The man's name was Greg Brush, of Soldotna. Tom Gresham interviewed him on Gun Talk.
I bought this revolver and experienced “jumping the crimp”. My experience with “jumping the crimp” is with aluminum and steel case ammo, and it was consistent. Additionally, I made the mistake of shooting some Wolf brand lacquered bullets through it. The lacquered shell casings actually baked themselves into the cylinder requiring that I seek out a gunsmith to remove them. Of course I only shoot brass out of it now and haven’t had further problems. An interesting tidbit is this revolver will shoot .380 acp utilizing the moonclips. Its not recommended of course.
Great LCR reviews on the .327 Mag, .22 Mag and 9mm! I'm a big fan of the .357 LCR and carried it before my Glock 23 and 27. I'm close to being accepted to the Sheriff's Department and have a panel interview coming up. They currently are issued Glock 21SF Gen 3's and 442 Air Weights for backups. I wouldn't mind considering the .327 Magnum as an alternative. That being said, I have found the these reviews very helpful. I intend to be a life long follower! I live in Greenville, SC so I hope to meet you at NRA 2017 in Atlanta this year! Thanks for the great reviews!
Interesting video. I have used the 357 version and 22 LR version. I have used moon clips in my Governor and found them useful at the range. I think carrying moon clips is the hard part when speed strips cannot be used. I did get a moon clip loader from Midway that made things much easier on loading. I suspect this is an ankle carry backup in use the most. It can be a fun range gun for plinking.
I know it's not a 44, or 357, but I can't imagine some thinking the 9mm is a weak. It's extremely capable for human beings. I live in NYC, that while it's challenging, we don't have Grizzlies..
Oh, that crimp jump is happening! My wife has had two range sessions so far with a new Ruger LCR, and each time one of the fifth rounds in a group has jammed her revolver up completely. Spilling gunpowder, bullet wedged in cylinder . . not pretty, or dependable. We're revisiting the value of this gun.
i have this gun and i can tell you i have dropped thrown and carried the moon clips everyday for months and have had no problems with them . i think they are made stronger now . i love this gun
I have this same revolver with an exposed hammer.. the LCRX..which makes it single/double action. You also don't need the moon clips to fire it. I prefer it over the model you test in this video.
Ruger LCR 9 can shoot without the clips. Extraction is a little more difficult but it will work. The chamber is cut to keep the round in the right spot, cannot go too far forward.
hickok45 You have the best gun reviews on TH-cam. Strait forward opinions coupled with superior knowledge and facts. Great sound and video quality (kudos to the camera guy). Plus viewers don't have to endure hundreds of video cuts for every five minutes watched (like so many other channels). Thanks!
I have wondered for a long time why 9mm revolver were not more popular. Jumping the crimp would be the reason. Been wanting one of these. Glad I went with the 642.
I like the LCR 9, I have many Ruger Firearms, but spent my money on the Century Arms 9mm Pit Bull when I wanted a 9mm revolver.. Mainly because it doesn't require the Moon Clips. I carry 10 spare rounds in a flat single stack magazine (No Moon Clips) and just slide the rounds out of the semi auto magazine into the revolver. If I put a 15 or 17- 9mm double stack mag in my pocket it's even better. So far the Pit Bull has been a reliable tool.
I'd like to have one but like you said carrying extra clips would be tough to cancel unless it was winter time. Hey i'm glad you brought up "jump the crimp" cause i just had that happen to me. I had a box of factory 357 mag 125 gr. JKTD soft point and i noticed that the crimp was like a taper crimp. I have a Taurus 66 7 shot & i had only fired 3 or 4 rounds then i noticed the gun would not function. The bullet had moved about an eighth of an inch past the front of the cylinder. I had to get me a wooden dowel & a hammer to push it back in.
Great review Hickok! I have an LCR 38/38+p and it is a handy little firearm. Got for my wife because she cannot rack my S&W 380 BG or my keltec P-33. Have to get her to range and make sure she can handle it okay. It does have a kick.
SP101 in 9x19 mm had two barrel length in 2.5" & 3.0". The SP 101 does not need moon clips to function. Though the expended cases need to be plucked out of the chambers. The SP works with moon clips too. SP felt recoil is much less because of the weight and less chance of "crimp jump". To bad the 9x19 mm SP's is out of production now and considered "rare". I also prefer the .38 Special in the LCR platform because of because of its dependence on suitable moon clips.
the LCR is a nice little revolver CC. I have the .357 Mag version. It does have a heck of a kickback. .357Mag are crimped, and I have never had the bullet "Jump the Crimp" . I would not trade it for any other small revolver. I can't wait until Ruger puts out the LCR in .40S&W, like the Charter Pitbull has.
I just got one in 9mm. It's great! I have many 9mm cc and a Kel tec p32 for the summer months. As far as tiny 9s go it's fantastic! I even have a Roubaugh R9. it that's how you spell it. lol while it's a awesome piece the Ruger has much less recoil. my2¢
"If you want peace; prepare for war." That is the Latin definition of the Mighty 9mm "Parabellum" round developed in 1904 in Germany where everything innovative we enjoy today was conceived and or created either by Germans or immigrants from there! In my opinion this is probably the greatest round ever made. It is not too harsh to shoot while having great "knock down" potential while not being a "blow your hand off crazy sore round" after a few shots like most rounds in a larger caliber than this. Especially the 357, which even in an extremely heavy boat anchor frame (like a GP100) was difficult to hit anything aimed at. I have shot the mighty MP5 full auto in 9mm at work. Superb handling compared to the Uzi. That's why I bought one from the Walther factory but in 22LR for fun - fantastic and accurate as hell. Interesting pistol though and worth considering for a back up!
i wish i would have seen this before i got my lcr 9mm. i couldn't get through 5 rounds of blazer brass. i thought i got a bad gun, but it works fine with winchester white box and american eagle, 0 misfires with with either of those. i got it for concealed carry with moon clips.
I actually shoot this gun quite frequently without moon clips, depending on the brand of ammo the spent cases will just fall out. Usually only more expensive brass 9mm like hornady or hydroshocks. The 115 grain FMJ federal ammo will usually get stuck in the chambers and you'll need moon clips or a dowel to get them out, although you shouldn't be carrying 115 grain federal FMJ anyway IMO. I'm glad I didn't get this gun in .357 mag, even though the 9mm is supposed to be a weaker round it really doesn't perform any differently and the ammo is so much cheaper.
Always makes me do a double take when people tell me they carry a revolver Bcz they’re foolproof. You demonstrated exactly what I always say to them. Moon clips in any form bring another point of failure in revolvers. People think they’re simpler than semi autos, but in actuality they’re a Swiss watch compared to a sun dial. Great video brother.
I don't know what it is about Hickok, but I've viewed not only him, but other TH-camrs on these LCR's but he makes it looks like light recoil while it's jumping out of other ppls hands. That gives me inspiration I can handle these just like Hickok!
Love the look of those pistols. But I prefer longer barrels. Awesome video as always. Thank you to everyone on and off camera for all your obvious hard work.
Diraphe I was thinking more like 5 and 6 inch barrel lengths. More of a rifle shooter than pistols. They are harder to get in Canada and cost a bloody arm and leg.
Or target shooting. I just like them. Besides there's no concealed carry in Canada, no point at all having anything that compact here. Just be for plinking, and longer barrels are more accurate, better barrel exit speed, etc.
I know this video is old but it’s still relevant, Ruger makes a good product, I have 3 of these LCRs (not the Xs). I’d love to have the 9mm but I’m saving my nickels right now. The only thing I don’t really like about this 9mm idea is carrying the extra reloads which seems to be somewhat impractical for pocket carry. I suppose one could argue that 5 shots in most cases would be sufficient but certainly not in all cases. Lots to consider.
The 9mm in a lot of for instances out performs the 38 spl. cal. I got this very revolver because, I’ve got 9mm only glocks/pistol, and I didn’t want to have to purchase, store and maintain different variations of different calibers. Just stream lining all my guns down to one caliber. Plus the cost saving on 9mm, versus 38, you can still afford to shoot it.
I'd love to see you do a reveiw on the 9 mm Charter Arms Pitbull. It's supposed to be engineered to run w/out moonclips and the jumping the case problem is solved too! They had problems w/their six shooter but now its 5 shells and if its as good as they claim I'd buy one. Thanks!
"The .38 Special was designed in 1898 to be a higher velocity round, with better penetration properties than the .38 Long Colt that was in Government Service in the Philippines during the Spanish-American War."
well, you know it would be cool if ruger would have made this gun with a quick change-out .38spcl. cylinder where it could have been a dual-caliber revolver. kind of like those inexpensive "Heritage" .22LR / .22MAG revolvers that do have the cylinder change-out. it would be heavier, but if ruger maybe might also have made this gun a 3-caliber handgun.... .357MAG, .38spcl. & 9mm. i know ruger really made this gun as a light weight small carry gun, but still it would be cool if they did make a 3-caliber revolver. thumbed it up & thx4vid!
Ruger makes a larger convertible Blackhawk single-action revolver in 357 Magnum in which you can shoot 38 special also. It is a "Convertable" with an extra 9 MM cylinder which is easily swapped out with the 357 Magnum cylinder. I love the Blackhawk with the 7 1/2 inch barrel for hunting. You do NOT want the 9 mm LCR because I have experienced crimp jump in it. However, the Blackhawk works great with the 9 mm cylinder because of its heavier weight. I love Rugers.
Jumping the crimp happened to me once with the LCR. I didn't know that's what it was called until today. I thought it was bad ammo. Good to know thanks
hmm i wonder what the pressure limits would be in a 3 shot configuration? if a good cylinder can handle 6 shots of .357 mag then .50AE might not be too far fetched? wouldn't really be practical but to me a 5 shot 9mm isn't practical anyway.
I'm sure someone mentioned this, but I haven't seen it in the comments... that cylinder lock out screw is backed ALLLLLL the way out!!! You can see it at the closeup scenes at the 11:00 minute mark... happened to mine as well, along with the crimp jump issue on Federal round nose plinker. I can't remember the grain. Probably 115.
I like your reviews and I like the Ruger LCRs. You do a great job. However, I think you should do a review of the Ruger LCR 9mm shooting it one-handed limp wrist to see if you experience 9mm crimp-jump so viewers will make sure they test different ammo at the range to avoid crimp-jump. In a life or death situation, they may only have 3 shots from the 9mm before crimp-jump jams their gun. I carry reliable Ruger LCRs 38 specials.
Hickok -
"If I actually teach you anything" - I just wanted to say that you have taught me an abundant amount about firearms, and a little bit on politics and plenty on how to just be a good guy. You're a fantastic example of the typical firearms guy.
From when I learned the difference between isosceles and weaver stances, to never pulling a hammer on a revolver, to how NOT to hold a semi-auto, to all sorts of holster options, etc.
I came, years ago, watching your vids when I first got interested with firearms. Now I'm a proud (and more importantly, safe and responsible) gun owner thanks much in part to you!
You and John have done such a great job for the community as a whole. This is just one guys' thanks for all the hard work (Well, the editing in post, etc. I don't think you consider sending rounds down range "work!")
-Gof
"Everybody's not aware of everything"
.....Hickock, the modern day Socrates
ruger 10/22 disassembly, cleaning, & reassembly
wasnt he a school teacher for a while? Dude's probably sharper than most.
Learn you!
Dave Socrates?
Hickok, always entertaining!
The LCRx with the 3 inch barrel and the hammer for single action makes this pistol a small S&W 929 with 3 less bullets.
It’s a wonder gun.
I love my Ruger LCR 9. During the cold seasons I carry it in my coat pocket so I can fire without even drawing if needed. The fastest draw is no draw.
I have a LCR in 9mm. Great little gun. More powerful than 38 special less than 357. Moon clips load and unload faster nullifying one of the disadvantages of revolvers. LCR 9mm is useful on the hip, ankle or pocket. Good companion to have along.
How’s expansion?
This line of revolver videos is fantastic. I agree on the short range accuracy of revolvers compared to pistols. Recently, took my daughter to the range. She shot a glock 42, a SW 617 and a SW 686 with a 3" barrel. I was shocked but this tiny girl preferred the 686 hands down. Revolvers, even heavy steel models, might just be the handgun that can suit anybody.
FYI, you do not need moon clips to load and fire 9mm rounds in the LCR, but you need a rod or a pecil to eject the cases one by one because the ejector does not grab them.
Excellent presentation.
I’ve owned my LCR for a couple of years and have run several thousand rounds through it.
CCI Blazer 115 & 124gr have both had crimp-jump events but I still buy and shoot it for practice because it’s rare to jump and it’s cheap.
My favorite practice ammo is Federal ‘American Eagle’ 70 grain lead-free ball. Very fast; very snappy. About twice the price of Blazers…
My defense load is 3 rounds of Hornady’s Critical Defense Lite (hoping to deter) followed by 2 rounds of Underwood’s 95gr +P Xtreme Defense. I also carry 3 moon clips of the Underwood.
Moon clips are fairly pricey and seem to be going higher. 3 for $15 three years ago; 3 for $20+ now. I’ve never tried aftermarket brands.
Some ammo is too snug to fit, Fiocchi’s 115gr is a good example. It measures a few thousandths wider at the base and in the groove. Best to test before loading up ;)
When cleaning I have learned to check tightness of the two #10 Torx screws (they hold the two main sections of the gun together; the lower one also allows the cylinder carrier to be removed).
Also, a #5 Torx screw runs through the cylinder opening lever. All 3 should be checked frequently. I’ll probably use a low-strength thread-lock (like Loctite blue) in the future…
That’s about it. I love this little revolver and tend to run about 250 rounds on a normal range day. Almost all practice is at 10 yards or closer. I enjoy shooting larger caliber longer barreled wheel guns also, but this LCR is just too much fun.
I've never commented but just wanted to let ya know I've enjoyed your videos for a long while. I'm a military retiree and after a hiatus from shooting, have gotten back into it. If i ever have a question on a firearm, you are one of the go-to guys. Thanks and keep up the good work.
Best Gun You Tuber hands down
LOL @ 12:45....love it when John actually turns the camera upward all of a sudden on that too....
Hickok, love your vidios. Just a tip. The new lcr 9mm does not require moonclips to fire. After expansion you may have to pop the shells out with a pencil, but the firearm will safely fire. Stay safe. Mike from Massachusetts.
Interesting thought about the moon clips. Arguably for the best concealment and convenience, the ultimate way to carry a revolver reload is a speed strip because it keeps the package as slim as possible. Not nearly as quick as a speedloader, but they are more concealable and convenient for carrying. Moon clips add in the fragility, if you carry it in your pocket it's not going to be as comfortable a speed strip, but it'll be smaller than most speedloaders, but the real downside compared to both is if you lean up against something or have it on a belt in a pouch and smack it against your car when you're getting in, you might end up with a reload that won't work when you need it.
Thanks for the tip!
Have to say I never knew that a round could "jump the crimp" at all. Thinking about it now makes perfect sense as to how it could happen, just never thought about it before. Thank you for teaching me something I never knew AGAIN Hickok. Your videos along with other firearms channels on youtube are what has got me into guns. Don't own any yet as I do not have the money, but when I have the income I will. Thank you again Hickok.
I hear what you are saying near the end about revolvers and old guys. I took my GP100 to concealed carry qualification recently since I tend to shoot it pretty well, i.e., in single action. However, the targets were black and I could not get a good sight picture (at age 62). Since I couldn't see the sights I just went for it in double action. I was finishing the various tests faster than the other folks with semi-autos. The instructor kept saying "no need to rush." When all was said and done every shot was on target. After scoring everyone the instructor said "You are pretty good with that revolver." Of course that made me feel good. A GP100 was my first handgun 35 years ago and I just find it to be a great shooter. I was better with it than my several autos until I recently got a Ruger SR1911.
The price of 38 special is outrageous compared to 9mm. It's more than 45 most places, and .357 is in another ballpark. That's why this gun is cool I think.
the only problem is 9mm revolvers become much more difficult to reload if you lose your moon clips.
Andrew Wassenberg simply use a chopstick to poke them out :)
Just looking at this gun does it absolutely need the moon clips I’m confused
@@alexmaurice4274 it can be used without clips.
Paul Harrel shoots it and discusses drawbacks and solutions in a LC9 comparison.
Colion Noire fires an entire box in a 12 minute review with no moon clips.
I love my LCR and bought a bunch of extra clips and capped tubes to hold them pre-loaded.
@@toneeclark399 whats a capped tube?
That's a nice 9mm, Ruger LCR, Hickok45. This is an excellent video, with Hickok45 explaining 'jumping the crimp.' Plus, a good explanation of how a moon-clip works, in a revolver, that's designed for moon-clips.
Hickok, when I did my review on this gun I did encounter the crimp jump issue. It is documented on my channel. I emailed my contact at Ruger and they recommended that I use 115 gr ammo in the gun.
Great review as always sir!
Purple Mountain Outdoors channel no longer exists, what happened to them?
@@radiohobbyist13he wore the same pants all the time and people noticed. I think his name changed to chutpants 🙂
I had the LCRx in .38 Special +P for one week before two defects on the frame came through. Ruger replaced the gun with any gun of my choice from Ruger. When I told my range about this they said that within the same month a new GP100 and a new SP101 both had similar frame issues (surprising as they had different construction) and both were replaced by Ruger. Then a LC9 literally fell into a number of parts at the range due to a slide defect. I absolutely love Rugers (I still own 3) but the new "lean manufacturing" they have started to use is seemingly a cost savings but also a quality issue.
thanks for the info on jumping the crimp, ive' never heard of that before. The more you know with hickok45!
mine has jumped the crimp before
I think that 9 mm is a very good option. Especially here in Europe where 9 mm is the commonest cartridge. Enough powerful and effective for self-defence (although it's extremely difficult to get gun permit if not for sporting purposes), used in pistols, so you don't need two different calibers - the same ammo. And last but not least - relatively cheap. I admire your vids hickok :-) Glad you are still on YT. I like your accent - Tennesse?
where in Europe are you that you can carry a hangun?
@@bpaajcisna5595 Czech republic and in latin America you can do it in Costa Rica .
I've had crimp jump using Federal aluminum ammo. Use brass cased ammo only now. Moon clips are optional. The moon clip doesn't set the head spacing the cylinder is cut like a traditional rimless barrel. The cylinder is what sets the head spacing in this revolver. Handy little gun for sure. It also seems Ruger addressed issues older rimless revolvers had.
The “ Gun Media” lol This guy is a goldmine of information. He’s like going out shooting with your favorite Uncle👍🇺🇸👍
hickok45 pure muscle memory with a revolver. No matter what the caliber is!
If I am ever thinking about a specific gun to buy, I always check your videos first.
I just picked up an LCR 9mm . They are hard to find but a wonderful carry weapon. Yes, it is my backup to a Glock 19. The only ammo that I had crimp jump was CCI stuff. Great video as usual.
Snub noses are the coolest handguns in my opinion. Fell in love with this one in particular after seeing it on Breaking Bad. I have to say, there is no gun more worthy for Walt than a sexy 9mm such as the Ruger.
Thanks for teaching me something today . I have shot revolvers for years mainly 38's and 357's but I had never heard of jumping the crimp.
I have one of these like it a lot. Carrying a reload was a problem for a while. Now I carry a spare 5 in a soft nylon speedloader case on my belt. An unusual method in winter is in a pill bottle in my coat pocket. Each of these methods hold 2 moon clips. 9pm is more powerful than 38 plus lots of different loads available compared to 38. The 9mm case is shorter and you get full length ejection. I see lots of advantages.
I really enjoy this 60 fps footage. Thank you for your in-depth videos!
I just picked up one of these for my 9 collection. Kahr MK9, Lone Wolf/YHM AR-15 carbine and now the LCR.
Little known fact. A guy from Houston by the name of Warren Moonklip invented the revolver moon clip as we know it.
Everyone knows that.
Buapo I didn’t
Running was invented in 1928 by Sir Thomas Runnings when he tried to walk twice at the same time
The S&W 940 is a great gun . I bought one in 1992 because the police dept that I worked at would pay for your back up gun ammo if it was 9mm or .38. I was issued a Beretta 92F, so a revolver in 9mm made perfect sense. More power than a .38, real close to .357 out of a 1.87 inch barrel ,plus free ammo. I still have the Beretta 92F and S&W 940 today. Both are still great guns.........I wish S&W would make a 9mm, 5 shot, J Frame out of the Air Lite 11 OZ set up. I'd buy 3 of them with ZERO hesitation. However, I bought the 9mm LCR the day it came out. It's a great gun.
Great info
Love and respect this channel and love shooting the LCR 9mm.
I’ve found this revolver is a little ‘choosy’ regarding ammo. Between it and the Mrs. G19 we’ve been able to shoot everything we’ve purchased.
Fiocchi Range Dynamics 9mm 115gr FMJ doesn’t fit well. It’s diameter at the base and in the ring keep it from dropping in. If forced it’s a s-o-b to extract.
I haven’t put the calipers to Federal HST 147gr yet but it would have had to be forced into the cylinder as well.
(both issues using factory Ruger moon clips in like new condition)
BTW: I found this video an excellent representation of what this revolver has to offer.
The most I've ever been affected by recoil was shooting the LCR 357 magnum, man that was brutal recoil.
My friend let me shoot his and he was using buffalo bore ammo as well, phew!
@@craigfinley2507more weight helps with recoil you don’t absolutely need moon clips unless you’re trying to reload really fast
I did not read all comments; I apologize if someone else brought this to your attention already. Below the cylinder release, the screw looks to be coming out, or at least loose. Big fan of your videos.
I own an LCRX in 9mm and have had the bullet pulling problem. Once during a re-qual for my permit. Some brands will and some wont. Another problem is steel cased ammo. In mine, the steel cases stick in the chambers and the moon clip keeps them from being poked out one at a time. Just went the other day to practice for a coming re-qual and using Blazer, had no problem with bullet pulling.
You are 100% correct on 9mm being a bit snappy in small pistols. Just compare a Sig 238 and 938. Also springfield 911 in 380acp and 9mm. Shooting 9mm makes the gun want to jump out of your hand, you have to readjust your grip after every shot. The 9mm 911 ended up slide biting me because I had a death grip on it. I know slide bites are just a kiss from your gun but I bleed all over it and it was a rental. I ended up buying the 380 since it was tamer on the recoil. 9mm is for full size guns!
Just bought this. Great conceal gun. Awesome trigger. 9mm is money.
Great gun. I got one. I have the LCRx 9mm
hey Suneil Kumar how much was it
You're getting the ballistics of a .38 +P- maybe. I carry .357 Mag, Gold Dot Short Barrel - 135 g, and they're equivalent to a 135+P 9mm. Yes, they're watered down a bit, because shooting anything hotter out of my 2.1 inch, 22 ounce, Smith 649 is just not for me....
Your accuracy with that little revolver is outstanding.
I have a 9mm Ruger Speed Six I carried for years as an investigator and have hundreds of moon clips for it can't believe they were anywhere near 5 bucks a piece as the LCR ones are, even adjusted for inflation. Just seems 5 bucks each is a bit steep even at todays prices.
Hi, it’s me from the future. You WISH you had gotten these at $5 a pop nowadays.
Have you bought ammo recently…
@@vitaly6312 3 packs for 40 bucks lmao
Heard that story about the bear as well Hickok. It was a Ruger Super Redhawk Alaskan in .454 Casull. The man's name was Greg Brush, of Soldotna. Tom Gresham interviewed him on Gun Talk.
I bought this revolver and experienced “jumping the crimp”. My experience with “jumping the crimp” is with aluminum and steel case ammo, and it was consistent. Additionally, I made the mistake of shooting some Wolf brand lacquered bullets through it. The lacquered shell casings actually baked themselves into the cylinder requiring that I seek out a gunsmith to remove them. Of course I only shoot brass out of it now and haven’t had further problems. An interesting tidbit is this revolver will shoot .380 acp utilizing the moonclips. Its not recommended of course.
Great LCR reviews on the .327 Mag, .22 Mag and 9mm! I'm a big fan of the .357 LCR and carried it before my Glock 23 and 27.
I'm close to being accepted to the Sheriff's Department and have a panel interview coming up. They currently are issued Glock 21SF Gen 3's and 442 Air Weights for backups.
I wouldn't mind considering the .327 Magnum as an alternative. That being said, I have found the these reviews very helpful.
I intend to be a life long follower! I live in Greenville, SC so I hope to meet you at NRA 2017 in Atlanta this year!
Thanks for the great reviews!
Interesting video. I have used the 357 version and 22 LR version. I have used moon clips in my Governor and found them useful at the range. I think carrying moon clips is the hard part when speed strips cannot be used. I did get a moon clip loader from Midway that made things much easier on loading. I suspect this is an ankle carry backup in use the most. It can be a fun range gun for plinking.
Wasn’t aware of the possibility of crimp jumping in a revolver. Great information to share. Thanks!
I know it's not a 44, or 357, but I can't imagine some thinking the 9mm is a weak. It's extremely capable for human beings. I live in NYC, that while it's challenging, we don't have Grizzlies..
You do not “need” the moon clip. It makes reloading significantly easier, but the gun will fire no problem without moon clips
Its getting the spent brass out that is the reason for the moon clip.
@@gillmccuddy Tap the handle of the gun against your palm downwards and the casings will fall out 99.99% of the time...
@@EroticOnion23 thank you for the info
Nice little gun. Thanks for the info on the crimp, I never thought about that.
I feel the same way about my revolvers. At close range my snubby is the gun I shoot most instinctively.
The new Chief's special 🗽
Oh, that crimp jump is happening! My wife has had two range sessions so far with a new Ruger LCR, and each time one of the fifth rounds in a group has jammed her revolver up completely. Spilling gunpowder, bullet wedged in cylinder . . not pretty, or dependable. We're revisiting the value of this gun.
I have the 9 strapped to the side of my wheelchair every day! Love it! Won it on a gun ticket!
i have this gun and i can tell you i have dropped thrown and carried the moon clips everyday for months and have had no problems with them . i think they are made stronger now . i love this gun
You can use old medicine bottles to carry the moon Clips in.
Good advice thanks
9mm pain pills
Take your medicine!!
10 dram?
Wow thanks for the idea! I didn't want to buy an over priced Chinese pouch. Thanks again.
I have this same revolver with an exposed hammer.. the LCRX..which makes it single/double action. You also don't need the moon clips to fire it. I prefer it over the model you test in this video.
"...Education is important." Hell yeah! Thanks Hickock!
Ruger LCR 9 can shoot without the clips. Extraction is a little more difficult but it will work. The chamber is cut to keep the round in the right spot, cannot go too far forward.
hickok45 You have the best gun reviews on TH-cam. Strait forward opinions coupled with superior knowledge and facts. Great sound and video quality (kudos to the camera guy). Plus viewers don't have to endure hundreds of video cuts for every five minutes watched (like so many other channels). Thanks!
I have wondered for a long time why 9mm revolver were not more popular. Jumping the crimp would be the reason. Been wanting one of these. Glad I went with the 642.
I like the LCR 9, I have many Ruger Firearms, but spent my money on the Century Arms 9mm Pit Bull when I wanted a 9mm revolver.. Mainly because it doesn't require the Moon Clips. I carry 10 spare rounds in a flat single stack magazine (No Moon Clips) and just slide the rounds out of the semi auto magazine into the revolver. If I put a 15 or 17- 9mm double stack mag in my pocket it's even better. So far the Pit Bull has been a reliable tool.
Charter Arms
I never buy a gun until I see the opinion of Hickock 45. He is the Michael Jordan of the firearms. I have learned a lot from him over the years.
looks great. I will be picking this up as a standard CWP for my motorcycle. Thanks for sharing!
I'd like to have one but like you said carrying extra clips would be tough to cancel unless it was winter time. Hey i'm glad you brought up "jump the crimp" cause i just had that happen to me. I had a box of factory 357 mag 125 gr. JKTD soft point and i noticed that the crimp was like a taper crimp. I have a Taurus 66 7 shot & i had only fired 3 or 4 rounds then i noticed the gun would not function. The bullet had moved about an eighth of an inch past the front of the cylinder. I had to get me a wooden dowel & a hammer to push it back in.
You should review the Charter Pitbull 9mm NO MOON CLIPS! Current production as of 7-19.
Great review Hickok! I have an LCR 38/38+p and it is a handy little firearm. Got for my wife because she cannot rack my S&W 380 BG or my keltec P-33. Have to get her to range and make sure she can handle it okay. It does have a kick.
president excellent pistol fantastic great alot of fun shooting there great excited everyshoot perfict fantastic have nice day ^^^^
SP101 in 9x19 mm had two barrel length in 2.5" & 3.0". The SP 101 does not need moon clips to function. Though the expended cases need to be plucked out of the chambers. The SP works with moon clips too. SP felt recoil is much less because of the weight and less chance of "crimp jump". To bad the 9x19 mm SP's is out of production now and considered "rare". I also prefer the .38 Special in the LCR platform because of because of its dependence on suitable moon clips.
I didn't know that could happen with revolvers, Thanks for the info.
the LCR is a nice little revolver CC. I have the .357 Mag version. It does have a heck of a kickback. .357Mag are crimped, and I have never had the bullet "Jump the Crimp" . I would not trade it for any other small revolver. I can't wait until Ruger puts out the LCR in .40S&W, like the Charter Pitbull has.
I just got one in 9mm. It's great! I have many 9mm cc and a Kel tec p32 for the summer months. As far as tiny 9s go it's fantastic! I even have a Roubaugh R9. it that's how you spell it. lol while it's a awesome piece the Ruger has much less recoil. my2¢
"If you want peace; prepare for war." That is the Latin definition of the Mighty 9mm "Parabellum" round developed in 1904 in Germany where everything innovative we enjoy today was conceived and or created either by Germans or immigrants from there! In my opinion this is probably the greatest round ever made. It is not too harsh to shoot while having great "knock down" potential while not being a "blow your hand off crazy sore round" after a few shots like most rounds in a larger caliber than this. Especially the 357, which even in an extremely heavy boat anchor frame (like a GP100) was difficult to hit anything aimed at. I have shot the mighty MP5 full auto in 9mm at work. Superb handling compared to the Uzi. That's why I bought one from the Walther factory but in 22LR for fun - fantastic and accurate as hell. Interesting pistol though and worth considering for a back up!
i wish i would have seen this before i got my lcr 9mm. i couldn't get through 5 rounds of blazer brass. i thought i got a bad gun, but it works fine with winchester white box and american eagle, 0 misfires with with either of those. i got it for concealed carry with moon clips.
I actually shoot this gun quite frequently without moon clips, depending on the brand of ammo the spent cases will just fall out. Usually only more expensive brass 9mm like hornady or hydroshocks. The 115 grain FMJ federal ammo will usually get stuck in the chambers and you'll need moon clips or a dowel to get them out, although you shouldn't be carrying 115 grain federal FMJ anyway IMO. I'm glad I didn't get this gun in .357 mag, even though the 9mm is supposed to be a weaker round it really doesn't perform any differently and the ammo is so much cheaper.
Some how I especially enjoy your revolver videos.
Love the new skin on the table looks better then the leather to be honest !
Always makes me do a double take when people tell me they carry a revolver Bcz they’re foolproof. You demonstrated exactly what I always say to them. Moon clips in any form bring another point of failure in revolvers. People think they’re simpler than semi autos, but in actuality they’re a Swiss watch compared to a sun dial. Great video brother.
Thanks Hickokrates, you are a font of information.
I don't know what it is about Hickok, but I've viewed not only him, but other TH-camrs on these LCR's but he makes it looks like light recoil while it's jumping out of other ppls hands. That gives me inspiration I can handle these just like Hickok!
Thanks for the info again🔥🔥
Never ceases to amaze me how they can actually make an accurate pistol with a 2" barrel (he says as hickok starts missing)!
Lee factory crimp die will take care of the problems with the bullet jump. Great video as always Hickok!
Love the look of those pistols. But I prefer longer barrels. Awesome video as always. Thank you to everyone on and off camera for all your obvious hard work.
Arbhall McDougall They have one with a 3" barrel chambered in .38special.
Diraphe I was thinking more like 5 and 6 inch barrel lengths. More of a rifle shooter than pistols. They are harder to get in Canada and cost a bloody arm and leg.
Arbhall McDougall You will find a barrel that long to be kind of awkward. I only recommend barrels that long if you are going hunting with a handgun.
Or target shooting. I just like them. Besides there's no concealed carry in Canada, no point at all having anything that compact here. Just be for plinking, and longer barrels are more accurate, better barrel exit speed, etc.
Really like these 9mm revolvers
How do you not have your own tv show by now?
Knoar We have our own show, and the beauty is that nobody else controls everything as they would on TV.
hickok45 And you are a lot longer around than most TV shows! And the quality is a lot better, too!!!
Knoar TV doesn't deserve him...
This is his own "TV show" but way better.
Seriously
One argument for the 9 mm handguns is the price of ammo. 9 mm is considerably less expensive.
I know this video is old but it’s still relevant, Ruger makes a good product, I have 3 of these LCRs (not the Xs). I’d love to have the 9mm but I’m saving my nickels right now. The only thing I don’t really like about this 9mm idea is carrying the extra reloads which seems to be somewhat impractical for pocket carry. I suppose one could argue that 5 shots in most cases would be sufficient but certainly not in all cases. Lots to consider.
The 9mm in a lot of for instances out performs the 38 spl. cal. I got this very revolver because, I’ve got 9mm only glocks/pistol, and I didn’t want to have to purchase, store and maintain different variations of different calibers. Just stream lining all my guns down to one caliber. Plus the cost saving on 9mm, versus 38, you can still afford to shoot it.
The information on “jumping the crimp” and felt recoil - if that’s not education I don’t know what is. Thank you!
wow seen hickock smoke pot many times never seen him miss
I'd love to see you do a reveiw on the 9 mm Charter Arms Pitbull. It's supposed to be engineered to run w/out moonclips and the jumping the case problem is solved too! They had problems w/their six shooter but now its 5 shells and if its as good as they claim I'd buy one. Thanks!
Tempted by this one. I hear out of this barrel length, 9mm about matched .357 magnum, without the magnum recoil.
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Finally. Thank you Greg!
I need one of these. Gotta have it. Must have.
"The .38 Special was designed in 1898 to be a higher velocity round, with better penetration properties than the .38 Long Colt that was in Government Service in the Philippines during the Spanish-American War."
well, you know it would be cool if ruger would have made this gun with a quick change-out .38spcl. cylinder where it could have been a dual-caliber revolver. kind of like those inexpensive "Heritage" .22LR / .22MAG revolvers that do have the cylinder change-out. it would be heavier, but if ruger maybe might also have made this gun a 3-caliber handgun.... .357MAG, .38spcl. & 9mm. i know ruger really made this gun as a light weight small carry gun, but still it would be cool if they did make a 3-caliber revolver. thumbed it up & thx4vid!
Ruger makes a larger convertible Blackhawk single-action revolver in 357 Magnum in which you can shoot 38 special also. It is a "Convertable" with an extra 9 MM cylinder which is easily swapped out with the 357 Magnum cylinder. I love the Blackhawk with the 7 1/2 inch barrel for hunting. You do NOT want the 9 mm LCR because I have experienced crimp jump in it. However, the Blackhawk works great with the 9 mm cylinder because of its heavier weight. I love Rugers.
Jumping the crimp happened to me once with the LCR. I didn't know that's what it was called until today. I thought it was bad ammo. Good to know thanks
I hope they make that gun in .500 Magnum. That would be my ankle gun of choice.
How about .50 bmg? :3
Good idea. Would go along perfectly with my .700 nitro Derringer.
I don't think that the gun could hold up to the pressure if a .500. Let alone a .700 nitro express lol.
hmm i wonder what the pressure limits would be in a 3 shot configuration? if a good cylinder can handle 6 shots of .357 mag then .50AE might not be too far fetched?
wouldn't really be practical but to me a 5 shot 9mm isn't practical anyway.
God help you if you get a hang fire in .50 You’d loose both hands.
I'm sure someone mentioned this, but I haven't seen it in the comments... that cylinder lock out screw is backed ALLLLLL the way out!!! You can see it at the closeup scenes at the 11:00 minute mark... happened to mine as well, along with the crimp jump issue on Federal round nose plinker. I can't remember the grain. Probably 115.
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I like your reviews and I like the Ruger LCRs. You do a great job. However, I think you should do a review of the Ruger LCR 9mm shooting it one-handed limp wrist to see if you experience 9mm crimp-jump so viewers will make sure they test different ammo at the range to avoid crimp-jump. In a life or death situation, they may only have 3 shots from the 9mm before crimp-jump jams their gun. I carry reliable Ruger LCRs 38 specials.