Justice for McKay!!!! They could've explored his "friendship" with Nate, why he even put up with a guy that belittled him as a man (tie that back to his sexual assault in S1 & him allowing it, muah- continuity✨️) and his reaction to Cassie and Nate. Shit, that itself could've served as motivation in football and rise up, or lead him to a downward spiral and flunk out of college, where he now has to struggle and deal with the pressure of being a failure- as an athlete, as a boyfriend, as a son, and as a man.
Yes I’m not the biggest fan of him but McKay being thought out like that and the scene where he was sexually assaulted and his friend with Nate make me mad 😭
Kat started out as a fully fleshed character with real issues and in the second season they ignored everything they'd built up and vaguely hinted at her being unsatisfied in her relationship with Ethan just to end it. The second season fully haulted characters development and storylines to fill with scenes of Cassie and Nate and Elliot. It was just a mess.
Agreed. Kat was a great character learning to love who she was because she deals with inner hate. She embraced her body and sexuality in S1 and then became basically a secondary character and Lexi is a very jealous little bitch.
Now Barbie has quit the show. If the rumors are true I understand her not liking the ED storyline. Why focus on her weight and write her character as any other teenager on the show dealing with dating, family school, sex etc. It's one of my pet peeves when a tv show has overweight characters and eventually there is the "lets go on a diet story line" It's so over done.
honestly.. i’m happy they’re not going to be able to twist kats character into complete darkness … i feel like her story line went way to fast for ‘ the girl coming out of her shell ‘ trope. i loved the idea of a character that grew up online and is having to adjust to high school society. they should’ve just let her be a breath of fresh air for the audience, not fucking her life up every five seconds just like every other character. it just makes me wonder how dark the next season was supposed to be.. the show still has to cover BB’s teenage pregnancy and abortion or miscarriage.
that is a very stereotypical storyline but so is the blonde that gets treated like she's stupid and a sex object etc. etc. like y'all are expecting a little too much from sam levinson. he gets his praises when it comes to portraying substance abuse but i'd argue there's other substance abuse on the show that goes unaddressed (at least not w the seriousness it deserves)
it was, zendaya and dude who plays nate hate each other and zendaya refuses to film with him though, so that all got thrown out. sydney blew up in bettween s1 and s2 and they plugged her in
Guilt should be shown through behavior, not words. Not just in real life but in writing and tv. We didn’t need to see Cassie cry and knives be hidden from a character who was never shown to SI. Also, Maddy would’ve been kicked off the cheerleading team right along with Cassie for their outbursts lol
tbf you don't have to have a history of SI related to knives to have that be your theoretical go-to method. that being said in season 1 it was mentioned that she's been put in that mental space before (because of the sexual abuse, the leaks and everything that goes w that). i do agree that that didn't need to happen tho, let alone if they were gonna play it for laughs and make it so we're meant to point and laugh at Cassie
@@soniaiboyako4023 it felt like they were sorta laughing at Cassie or rather setting us up to, and even if teen problems “don’t matter” to adults they do matter for the person experiencing them. I was actually thinking their mom was going to turn out to have a SI history and that’s why she decided to hide all the sharps haha.
@@soniaiboyako4023 a theoretical go-to method could also be to jump off something. Hiding the knives was kinda like hiding all the advil but leaving your psych meds out which are often more dangerous.
@@Dizzydollie7 Oh yeah for sure. I think it's actually pretty obvious that almost everyone on the show was (re)written to make Cassie the butt of the joke - including her, even from E01 to E02 which is kinda wild. Since you mentioned her a simple exemple would be their mom, in S01 she was all up in her business, worried about a possible pregnancy etc. but now she couldn't care less who Cassie is stuck dating (and that it's certified abuser Nate of all people?), like now her daytime tv program is more important than her suicidal daughter?... right. But yeah they weren't just sorta doing it, they were 100% laughing at Cassie in-universe *and* setting the viewers up to laugh at her as well, i guess it unfortunately worked for the majority
@@soniaiboyako4023 you are correct. It did seem quite bluntly done, “let’s make everyone laugh at the blonde with big boobs!” Not going to pretend it didn’t make me sad a little lol even for just a tv show. Poor ole Cassie, let her be a character damnit haha
Great essay! Agree with everything you said about Kat, I was invested in her story in season 1, but they absolutely did her dirty in season 2. Underdeveloped is what I'd describe this season. Interesting ideas, but ultimately bad execution. It feels like there wasn't enough time in the writer's room or maybe Sam just needs more writers (maybe let Hunter write some episodes). These storylines, if more time was given to the writing, could've been something interesting, but unfortunately lead to a disappointing season. Here's to hoping season 3 fixes some of the problems that season 2 created.
I knew something was off, when the vibes were out. Like everyone, i was obsessed with season 1 looks & feels. Despite the subject matter, that was the glitter highschool life nobody never had. 🙌 I definitely missed the high makeup so much, the costumes were also not that great as season 1
Why did they have to ruin Cassies character like that? Maddy too. They didn't delve fully into his sexuality but they did do something with his Dad for some reason. Elliot didn't need to be there really. Jules is selfish and Hunter is a fantastic actor/writer but the actions of Jules in s2 were cruel and self driven. It's sad how the show is promoting female violence with Maddy being encouraged to beat Cassie her ex best friend because she had sex with Nate when Maddy was broken up with him. Then Nate double crossed both girls and he's not the one to blame? Again promoting female hatred and toxic masculinity. Kat and Fezco were the two best characters. Kat tried to find self love and she also had the online fetish site where she did things for pay with older men. Her Character was getting stronger, sexier and self aware but season two turns her into a minor supporting act. Cassie was used and treated like shit by Nate and he's the ultimate asshole who objectifies women and picks on Females with low self worth. Sydney Sweeney deserved better. Zendeya held the show with her acting. Very interesting and relatable aswell. She missed her Dad and it was very haunting to see Her in the grips of relapses and dream sequences. When she's hugging her Dad while high....it's very tear jerking and I relate as someone who chose drugs for awhile to push away the sadness of losing my Husband sux years ago. The girls often look like they're enduring sex and not enjoying it. Ashtrays death was sad and Fez and Lexi could have been a great plot point. I agree with you. Ali is the best and most underused underrated character. Nothing happened when Rue admitted to Lori she didn't have the money or suit case and it was set up to look like she was going to be used as a sex worket to pay off her debt with Lori as the Madam in charge of Rue. So she gets the Morphine in her arm and presumably gets better???? Nothing else happens after that? Where are the consequences of Rues actions and addiction?
i'm still not over the cassie maddy fight, and how everyone, my friends included were encouraging it. like did cassie do the wrong thing? obviously. but could it not have been resolved by talking? by maddy being like i'm too old for this shit. like he's just a boy.
@@belladonnaatropa6915 ugh exactly, that whole thing rubbed me the wrong way. just seems like the writer threw in some petty shit just to get fans riled up (specifically the type of fans who say they're on "maddy's side" or "cassie's side" like it's a team). seeing viewers hype it up was even dumber...
@@belladonnaatropa6915 what did cassie actually do though? bc the way their paths crossed was not her doing so there was no malice there or anything (they did retcon things from E01 in E02 ngl but that's a whole other conversation tbh) and saying her being stuck w *Nate Jacobs* was "her doing" is.. reductive at best. like ngl to this day i don't really get what this sentiment is based on (that actually happened and takes the context into consideration i mean). i fully agree that the way this was handled even in-universe was disappointing like let's not get sidetracked
After this review I'd love to watch Euphoria just for Cassie's plot because all of this sounds extremely familiar to me, especially those pregnancy fantasies in 70's! I had similar things going on when I was 17, good times 😅 I'm glad that I matured and so will this character one day for sure :)
another key element of euphoria is labyrinths contribution music really finalizes a shows identity, you pretty much listed everything i feel abt season 2 so beyond disappointing
Rue didn't bail. Jules was trying to make Rue into something she was not and thought taking her to the city would turn her into her manic pixie girl she cheated with while she was visiting her friend. RUE and the suitcases isn't over. I feel like Cherry trying to blame the dealers death on the "the old lady drug dealer"to the cops before the raid will not work and Rue is in trouble.
The Nate/Jules dynamic was SO interesting, and I honestly want to completely ignore season two because it does not feel like a continuation to their actual established stories.
it actually literally *is* except they gave that storyline to Cassie bc of tensions on set between Hunter and Jacob (some say Zendaya and Jacob but i don't see how that tracks)
@@soniaiboyako4023 i literally dont know what you’re talking about other than i wanted the storyline to be between nate and jules. cassie is irrelevant in my original post
@@vivtalks2430 i was literally just giving you the information that it technically *is* their storyline (so a continuation of it technically) except they had to tweak it to cater to the actors. since it's about the storyline you love i thought you'd care, that's all there is to it lmao didn't think mentioning Cassie would warrant this reaction but i should know better by now
@@soniaiboyako4023 ? i was literally just saying that the storyline between nate and jules is what i wanted to see. jules and cassie are not interchangeable. they completely dismissed jules/nate in s2, we got one scene and it was a waste. i dont think you read my initial comment correctly and i dont get why this is a big deal to you
@@vivtalks2430 i did read it correctly but you seem to think i have an issue w what you said or am trying to contradict it, i'm not. "jules and cassie are not interchangeable" right, and what i'm saying is the writers for some reason thought they were and decided to go ahead with that storyline but by substituting one of the characters by another. i was just adding context, if you don't care about what happened to that storyline or why they decided to modify it then okay? have a good one
I still don't know what Elliot added to the show... I at first thought they were gonna be exploring polyamory but not I guess?? Loved Lexi getting more attention until she somehow took over the show whilst feeling so distant from everyone Cassie... they really didn't know what to do with her eh I was really excited for Jules, especially her relationship with Rue and Nate I did like Maddie this season, more becoming her own person, despite the love triangle noise McKay? Kat? Jules? Ali is aight Cal's flashback episode was so good, it had my hopes up for this season... but then his character did weird
i kinda love how no one ever really gets into what that "chance encounter with Nate" actually looked like and how the subsequent guilt-tripping was put in place, i guess Rue's "Cassie wasn't that drunk" and some other subtle retcons worked to rewrite the narrative? i guess...
This season was a wild ride and I was entertained but it definitely needs to work. I still enjoy the work done by the actors, but my girl Jules needed more and Kat too.
oh my god yes! I loved season 1 so much, idk it just really hit me and was so important for me, especially rue's and kat's arcs. And then, season 2 was so chaotic and messy. I thought the whole episode of rue running away was amazing but then it was overshadowed by maddie finding about cassie and nate. The whole cassie's arc in s2 was weird, boring and felt unrealistic, the way she was always so dramatical. Also, leslie was such an underwhelming character to me and she shouldnt have had the main storyline. Kat being almost fully removed from s2 was probably the biggest crime to me because she was the first representation ive seen of a plus size girl who finds her confidence but also still struggles with it. This show has become something i didnt sign up for when watching s1.
Every guy on this season had an improvement in their story and/or showed more of their way of thinking/way of being, or at WORST stayed the same... meanwhile the girls and others in this season, bro they were played DUMB, TOXIC, NONSENSICAL, to say the least. Basically every girl went worst. Even Maddy had less screen time, poor girl couldn't even save this season. I'm MAD.
i thought euphoria was just about lana de ley-style teenage angst and dope makeup lewks, what a shame it was actually good but then went down the drain right??
Have you seen Assassination nation? I haven't seen a comparison between the two or much coverage on it since it is Sam Levinson. I saw the trailer and made think of D.E.B.S but there was a whole different modern terror about the plot.
Season 2 was good TV but a step down from season 1 in every way apart from episode 5 with Rue hitting rock bottom., that episode was the highlight of the series for me.
I agree with this video. I the only thing that stands out to me is I don't see Jules as a lesbian. I don't think she ever talked about her sexuality that way either. Maybe pan or bisexual or fluid?
A woman of euphoria who thrived was Lexi. She went from being ‘Rue’s friend’ or ‘Cassie’s sister’ to taking the narrative into her own, this was really seen in the final episodes with her play and truly became her own character
No. Even in her own show, it was all about others rather than herself, and i am not just saying this because i am disappointed on her and disgusted on her play. That was just the truth
@@bgos4727 exactly! Like I don't think lexi can really it hold up the show on her own bc while she's the most relatable character, she's somewhat the least interesting or dynamic in comparison to the other characters, so it'd be likely that her story would be just about her sitting in the background watching everyone else, which isn't all that needed. I think there could've been other lexi-centric directions Sam could've taken though
right? at least everyone that was groomed/in an abusive relationship at such a young age. or maybe that‘s just my borderline, that i fully commit to one person and even in my head they just have that much power over me bc i have feelings for them. but i get the point that in season 2 this whole "i belong to you“ was romanticized with cassie saying that she loves to be treated like that which i have to say was very disturbing to hear bc it‘s hell when you‘re in a relationship like this at 17
@@jalen.0609 The thing is you recognize that it was a grooming/abusive relationship, most people don't even do that much. The context aside i found it even more disturbing given that most of her (rare) spats w McKay came up when he tried to control her one way or another (tried to choke her during sex without asking, told her to change her clothes, took his humiliation/frustration/anger out on her, would use her "past" against her while pretending to not be that guy etc.). I think there was an effort to portray her as undeserving of compassion and love bc she "wants it" or is "asking for it", and what confirmed this for me was them having Rue say that Cassie "wasn't that drunk" during NYE... which not only literally isn't true, but even in-universe Rue would not know the first thing about it as she barely even saw her that night but we move
how are you gonna say this when Nate barely gets flack in-universe, Fez is presented as sympathetic, Ethan is great, McKay was portrayed as a nice guy (especially compared to Nate) etc. and the woman that season was mainly focused on was painted as a hysterical worthless slut that should be mocked w glee? like be fr
Honestly there’s sssssssssoooooooooo much for me to say about euphorias writing ✍🏽, character development particularly Kat, and Cassie’s character that I want to SCREAM from a mountain top that is just blatantly wrong, and Mcade is only in 1 episode 🙄🙄 why 🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️? I really appreciate your point of view and agree with a lot of what you say. I am praying 🙏🏽 the writing improves tremendously next season but time will tell. Also Sydney has come off as a huge cry baby 😭 complaining about her pay on the show, Isn’t lack of money an issue Jussie Smollet had before he was the victim of a “hate crime”. I literally can’t stand her this season. Thank you for a well produced well articulated arguments you had about every point. 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
The funniest part about the season is when Elliot said that the song was a "work in progress" and I was like "wait, that wasn't the full song?" lmao.
That song was longer than Kat's scenes this season
That song annoyed the shit out of me and I fast forwarded through it
The full song would feel like Kim Kardashian's Turn It Up
Literally what I said! Absolute bore fest of a song imo
that was the fucking worst lmfao i fast forward through it
I'm so glad more criticism has been said to Euphoria ESPECIALLY the writers because some of these scenes are giving me fetish mining vibes.
The writers? There’s literally just one writer who also is the director, which explains how the writing got so cliché
Justice for McKay!!!! They could've explored his "friendship" with Nate, why he even put up with a guy that belittled him as a man (tie that back to his sexual assault in S1 & him allowing it, muah- continuity✨️) and his reaction to Cassie and Nate. Shit, that itself could've served as motivation in football and rise up, or lead him to a downward spiral and flunk out of college, where he now has to struggle and deal with the pressure of being a failure- as an athlete, as a boyfriend, as a son, and as a man.
Yes I’m not the biggest fan of him but McKay being thought out like that and the scene where he was sexually assaulted and his friend with Nate make me mad 😭
Kat started out as a fully fleshed character with real issues and in the second season they ignored everything they'd built up and vaguely hinted at her being unsatisfied in her relationship with Ethan just to end it.
The second season fully haulted characters development and storylines to fill with scenes of Cassie and Nate and Elliot. It was just a mess.
Agreed. Kat was a great character learning to love who she was because she deals with inner hate. She embraced her body and sexuality in S1 and then became basically a secondary character and Lexi is a very jealous little bitch.
I love that it was originally about a lesbian couple and literally the next season the focus is a straight couple lol
All of the characters feel like completely different people, and sure, dynamic characters are okay to have but the change needs to be gradual
You hit the nail on the head dude
Now Barbie has quit the show. If the rumors are true I understand her not liking the ED storyline. Why focus on her weight and write her character as any other teenager on the show dealing with dating, family school, sex etc. It's one of my pet peeves when a tv show has overweight characters and eventually there is the "lets go on a diet story line" It's so over done.
honestly.. i’m happy they’re not going to be able to twist kats character into complete darkness … i feel like her story line went way to fast for ‘ the girl coming out of her shell ‘ trope. i loved the idea of a character that grew up online and is having to adjust to high school society. they should’ve just let her be a breath of fresh air for the audience, not fucking her life up every five seconds just like every other character. it just makes me wonder how dark the next season was supposed to be.. the show still has to cover BB’s teenage pregnancy and abortion or miscarriage.
that is a very stereotypical storyline but so is the blonde that gets treated like she's stupid and a sex object etc. etc. like y'all are expecting a little too much from sam levinson. he gets his praises when it comes to portraying substance abuse but i'd argue there's other substance abuse on the show that goes unaddressed (at least not w the seriousness it deserves)
read awhile ago that cassie's storyline was originally supposed to be for jules. I'm unsure and afraid of what this would've done to the season.
it was, zendaya and dude who plays nate hate each other and zendaya refuses to film with him though, so that all got thrown out. sydney blew up in bettween s1 and s2 and they plugged her in
@@drewjackson6403 they hate each other? was the break up that bad?
@@ames-inthe-grass i read he cheated on her with Kaia Gerber but that's mostly a rumor cause he started dating her as soon he broke up with Zendaya
Guilt should be shown through behavior, not words. Not just in real life but in writing and tv. We didn’t need to see Cassie cry and knives be hidden from a character who was never shown to SI. Also, Maddy would’ve been kicked off the cheerleading team right along with Cassie for their outbursts lol
tbf you don't have to have a history of SI related to knives to have that be your theoretical go-to method. that being said in season 1 it was mentioned that she's been put in that mental space before (because of the sexual abuse, the leaks and everything that goes w that). i do agree that that didn't need to happen tho, let alone if they were gonna play it for laughs and make it so we're meant to point and laugh at Cassie
@@soniaiboyako4023 it felt like they were sorta laughing at Cassie or rather setting us up to, and even if teen problems “don’t matter” to adults they do matter for the person experiencing them. I was actually thinking their mom was going to turn out to have a SI history and that’s why she decided to hide all the sharps haha.
@@soniaiboyako4023 a theoretical go-to method could also be to jump off something. Hiding the knives was kinda like hiding all the advil but leaving your psych meds out which are often more dangerous.
@@Dizzydollie7 Oh yeah for sure. I think it's actually pretty obvious that almost everyone on the show was (re)written to make Cassie the butt of the joke - including her, even from E01 to E02 which is kinda wild. Since you mentioned her a simple exemple would be their mom, in S01 she was all up in her business, worried about a possible pregnancy etc. but now she couldn't care less who Cassie is stuck dating (and that it's certified abuser Nate of all people?), like now her daytime tv program is more important than her suicidal daughter?... right. But yeah they weren't just sorta doing it, they were 100% laughing at Cassie in-universe *and* setting the viewers up to laugh at her as well, i guess it unfortunately worked for the majority
@@soniaiboyako4023 you are correct. It did seem quite bluntly done, “let’s make everyone laugh at the blonde with big boobs!” Not going to pretend it didn’t make me sad a little lol even for just a tv show. Poor ole Cassie, let her be a character damnit haha
I think the season could've a million times better if it followed the template of S1 so we can see everyone's thought processes
Literally. I thought removing the opening structure for most of the second season really hurt the coherence
Great essay! Agree with everything you said about Kat, I was invested in her story in season 1, but they absolutely did her dirty in season 2.
Underdeveloped is what I'd describe this season. Interesting ideas, but ultimately bad execution. It feels like there wasn't enough time in the writer's room or maybe Sam just needs more writers (maybe let Hunter write some episodes). These storylines, if more time was given to the writing, could've been something interesting, but unfortunately lead to a disappointing season. Here's to hoping season 3 fixes some of the problems that season 2 created.
I heard there were a lot of rewrites and it shows oof. I wonder if he was rushing to make these changes
I knew something was off, when the vibes were out. Like everyone, i was obsessed with season 1 looks & feels. Despite the subject matter, that was the glitter highschool life nobody never had. 🙌 I definitely missed the high makeup so much, the costumes were also not that great as season 1
Why did they have to ruin Cassies character like that? Maddy too. They didn't delve fully into his sexuality but they did do something with his Dad for some reason. Elliot didn't need to be there really. Jules is selfish and Hunter is a fantastic actor/writer but the actions of Jules in s2 were cruel and self driven. It's sad how the show is promoting female violence with Maddy being encouraged to beat Cassie her ex best friend because she had sex with Nate when Maddy was broken up with him. Then Nate double crossed both girls and he's not the one to blame? Again promoting female hatred and toxic masculinity.
Kat and Fezco were the two best characters. Kat tried to find self love and she also had the online fetish site where she did things for pay with older men. Her Character was getting stronger, sexier and self aware but season two turns her into a minor supporting act.
Cassie was used and treated like shit by Nate and he's the ultimate asshole who objectifies women and picks on Females with low self worth. Sydney Sweeney deserved better. Zendeya held the show with her acting. Very interesting and relatable aswell. She missed her Dad and it was very haunting to see Her in the grips of relapses and dream sequences. When she's hugging her Dad while high....it's very tear jerking and I relate as someone who chose drugs for awhile to push away the sadness of losing my Husband sux years ago.
The girls often look like they're enduring sex and not enjoying it.
Ashtrays death was sad and Fez and Lexi could have been a great plot point. I agree with you. Ali is the best and most underused underrated character. Nothing happened when Rue admitted to Lori she didn't have the money or suit case and it was set up to look like she was going to be used as a sex worket to pay off her debt with Lori as the Madam in charge of Rue. So she gets the Morphine in her arm and presumably gets better???? Nothing else happens after that? Where are the consequences of Rues actions and addiction?
i'm still not over the cassie maddy fight, and how everyone, my friends included were encouraging it. like did cassie do the wrong thing? obviously. but could it not have been resolved by talking? by maddy being like i'm too old for this shit. like he's just a boy.
@@belladonnaatropa6915 EXACTLY
A abusive boy at THAT
@@belladonnaatropa6915 ugh exactly, that whole thing rubbed me the wrong way. just seems like the writer threw in some petty shit just to get fans riled up (specifically the type of fans who say they're on "maddy's side" or "cassie's side" like it's a team). seeing viewers hype it up was even dumber...
@@belladonnaatropa6915 what did cassie actually do though? bc the way their paths crossed was not her doing so there was no malice there or anything (they did retcon things from E01 in E02 ngl but that's a whole other conversation tbh) and saying her being stuck w *Nate Jacobs* was "her doing" is.. reductive at best. like ngl to this day i don't really get what this sentiment is based on (that actually happened and takes the context into consideration i mean). i fully agree that the way this was handled even in-universe was disappointing like let's not get sidetracked
After this review I'd love to watch Euphoria just for Cassie's plot because all of this sounds extremely familiar to me, especially those pregnancy fantasies in 70's! I had similar things going on when I was 17, good times 😅 I'm glad that I matured and so will this character one day for sure :)
another key element of euphoria is labyrinths contribution music really finalizes a shows identity, you pretty much listed everything i feel abt season 2 so beyond disappointing
As much as I love Euphoria, I 100% agree with you on this one. 🙂
Rue didn't bail. Jules was trying to make Rue into something she was not and thought taking her to the city would turn her into her manic pixie girl she cheated with while she was visiting her friend.
RUE and the suitcases isn't over. I feel like Cherry trying to blame the dealers death on the "the old lady drug dealer"to the cops before the raid will not work and Rue is in trouble.
The Nate/Jules dynamic was SO interesting, and I honestly want to completely ignore season two because it does not feel like a continuation to their actual established stories.
it actually literally *is* except they gave that storyline to Cassie bc of tensions on set between Hunter and Jacob (some say Zendaya and Jacob but i don't see how that tracks)
@@soniaiboyako4023 i literally dont know what you’re talking about other than i wanted the storyline to be between nate and jules. cassie is irrelevant in my original post
@@vivtalks2430 i was literally just giving you the information that it technically *is* their storyline (so a continuation of it technically) except they had to tweak it to cater to the actors. since it's about the storyline you love i thought you'd care, that's all there is to it lmao didn't think mentioning Cassie would warrant this reaction but i should know better by now
@@soniaiboyako4023 ? i was literally just saying that the storyline between nate and jules is what i wanted to see. jules and cassie are not interchangeable. they completely dismissed jules/nate in s2, we got one scene and it was a waste. i dont think you read my initial comment correctly and i dont get why this is a big deal to you
@@vivtalks2430 i did read it correctly but you seem to think i have an issue w what you said or am trying to contradict it, i'm not. "jules and cassie are not interchangeable" right, and what i'm saying is the writers for some reason thought they were and decided to go ahead with that storyline but by substituting one of the characters by another. i was just adding context, if you don't care about what happened to that storyline or why they decided to modify it then okay? have a good one
Euphoria is like bad reality TV. Everything that makes it good is also why it’s bad.
I still don't know what Elliot added to the show... I at first thought they were gonna be exploring polyamory but not I guess??
Loved Lexi getting more attention until she somehow took over the show whilst feeling so distant from everyone
Cassie... they really didn't know what to do with her eh
I was really excited for Jules, especially her relationship with Rue and Nate
I did like Maddie this season, more becoming her own person, despite the love triangle noise
McKay? Kat? Jules?
Ali is aight
Cal's flashback episode was so good, it had my hopes up for this season... but then his character did weird
i kinda love how no one ever really gets into what that "chance encounter with Nate" actually looked like and how the subsequent guilt-tripping was put in place, i guess Rue's "Cassie wasn't that drunk" and some other subtle retcons worked to rewrite the narrative? i guess...
This season was a wild ride and I was entertained but it definitely needs to work. I still enjoy the work done by the actors, but my girl Jules needed more and Kat too.
People really expect me to believe Fez grandma didn’t get lit up during that raid! Grandma is dead no doubt. If they try to make me suspend belief…😂
Disbelief
I’ve just binge watched a bunch of your videos…have I heard about some of the topics before? Sure, but you make it so entertaining ima WATCH IT ALL!
Dudes that me rn!!
Kat was did so wrong, she did nothing to contribute to the plot in season 2
as usual, great video. thanks for sharing your thoughts on Euphoria
I watched this show and completely forgot about it
Now that i look back maybe i was just better off not knowing it tbh
Now that Kat is gone who is gonna be Maddie's bestie? Please not the tag along smoking girl 😭 not more of her
oh my god yes! I loved season 1 so much, idk it just really hit me and was so important for me, especially rue's and kat's arcs. And then, season 2 was so chaotic and messy. I thought the whole episode of rue running away was amazing but then it was overshadowed by maddie finding about cassie and nate. The whole cassie's arc in s2 was weird, boring and felt unrealistic, the way she was always so dramatical. Also, leslie was such an underwhelming character to me and she shouldnt have had the main storyline. Kat being almost fully removed from s2 was probably the biggest crime to me because she was the first representation ive seen of a plus size girl who finds her confidence but also still struggles with it. This show has become something i didnt sign up for when watching s1.
Oh I hated Kat's arc this season.
I got tired of this show, like I dont mind nudity in movies or shows, but this show’s doing it too much to the point it’s unnecessary :/
Every guy on this season had an improvement in their story and/or showed more of their way of thinking/way of being, or at WORST stayed the same... meanwhile the girls and others in this season, bro they were played DUMB, TOXIC, NONSENSICAL, to say the least. Basically every girl went worst. Even Maddy had less screen time, poor girl couldn't even save this season. I'm MAD.
You’re so right
Every guy???? Mckay didn't get a single of development at all. Ethan is still a glorify background character
It's hereeeeee!
Main disagreement: high schoolers absolutely think and talk about babies and daydream about it. And I do mean boys, too.
nah only u
@@lhvy5066 cope more
Some people definitely do. I never did but I knew two girls with baby fever back in the day, very alarming when you're like 14 😭😂
@@alim.9801 I got it at around 16 due to a parental death - I’m just glad I waited until I was 22 to actually have one 😂
Ali has to be my favorite character
Great breakdown 👌
i thought euphoria was just about lana de ley-style teenage angst and dope makeup lewks, what a shame it was actually good but then went down the drain right??
Lana del rey?
Have you seen Assassination nation? I haven't seen a comparison between the two or much coverage on it since it is Sam Levinson. I saw the trailer and made think of D.E.B.S but there was a whole different modern terror about the plot.
Sam Levinson was too much coke and Ritalin to care about writing a coherent storyline nor plot
I can kinda tell what story Sam is trying to tell but at times comes off lazy and no consequences.
#JusticeForKat
Season 2 was good TV but a step down from season 1 in every way apart from episode 5 with Rue hitting rock bottom., that episode was the highlight of the series for me.
If I could Like this a bajillion times, I would. Ali is the most underrated by a long shot.
Ashtray’s death scene owned tho
What is the song at the end that you played? It's great!!! Also, Great video, you're great Kayla!
I agree with this video. I the only thing that stands out to me is I don't see Jules as a lesbian. I don't think she ever talked about her sexuality that way either. Maybe pan or bisexual or fluid?
yeah aside from a few episodes, wasn't a fan of season 2 really
How would an ED disorder for Kat be regressive? And what shows portrays a fat character having ED? It’s usually the thin characters.
fun take, insightful and yes the lens of the high schooler point taken as context to show critics, which I am not...p.s. love Jules
PERIODT.
A woman of euphoria who thrived was Lexi. She went from being ‘Rue’s friend’ or ‘Cassie’s sister’ to taking the narrative into her own, this was really seen in the final episodes with her play and truly became her own character
No. Even in her own show, it was all about others rather than herself, and i am not just saying this because i am disappointed on her and disgusted on her play. That was just the truth
@@bgos4727 exactly! Like I don't think lexi can really it hold up the show on her own bc while she's the most relatable character, she's somewhat the least interesting or dynamic in comparison to the other characters, so it'd be likely that her story would be just about her sitting in the background watching everyone else, which isn't all that needed. I think there could've been other lexi-centric directions Sam could've taken though
Can you please do Hi 5 next video
This was made a while ago right??
Wait, people don’t give a shit about Kat??? I *love* her!!!
I have done that whole “I belong to you” monologue at 17…
right? at least everyone that was groomed/in an abusive relationship at such a young age. or maybe that‘s just my borderline, that i fully commit to one person and even in my head they just have that much power over me bc i have feelings for them. but i get the point that in season 2 this whole "i belong to you“ was romanticized with cassie saying that she loves to be treated like that which i have to say was very disturbing to hear bc it‘s hell when you‘re in a relationship like this at 17
@@jalen.0609 The thing is you recognize that it was a grooming/abusive relationship, most people don't even do that much. The context aside i found it even more disturbing given that most of her (rare) spats w McKay came up when he tried to control her one way or another (tried to choke her during sex without asking, told her to change her clothes, took his humiliation/frustration/anger out on her, would use her "past" against her while pretending to not be that guy etc.). I think there was an effort to portray her as undeserving of compassion and love bc she "wants it" or is "asking for it", and what confirmed this for me was them having Rue say that Cassie "wasn't that drunk" during NYE... which not only literally isn't true, but even in-universe Rue would not know the first thing about it as she barely even saw her that night but we move
all men bad: the show
how are you gonna say this when Nate barely gets flack in-universe, Fez is presented as sympathetic, Ethan is great, McKay was portrayed as a nice guy (especially compared to Nate) etc. and the woman that season was mainly focused on was painted as a hysterical worthless slut that should be mocked w glee? like be fr
Omg 😫
this show is bad im sorry i get the message b ut no its horrible
Jules is not a lesbian.
He talk with her therapist heavily implied that she was starting to identify as lesbian
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Honestly there’s sssssssssoooooooooo much for me to say about euphorias writing ✍🏽, character development particularly Kat, and Cassie’s character that I want to SCREAM from a mountain top that is just blatantly wrong, and Mcade is only in 1 episode 🙄🙄 why 🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️? I really appreciate your point of view and agree with a lot of what you say. I am praying 🙏🏽 the writing improves tremendously next season but time will tell. Also Sydney has come off as a huge cry baby 😭 complaining about her pay on the show, Isn’t lack of money an issue Jussie Smollet had before he was the victim of a “hate crime”. I literally can’t stand her this season. Thank you for a well produced well articulated arguments you had about every point. 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
lol you are clearly six years old
eat more sandwiches