I´d love to see moore videos on shield building - and since getting a decent shield could be rather expensive I think a lot of people out there share my interests.
I have one What direction does your plywood naturally want to bend Im trying to make it thw same way, but im finding it very difficult, as it seems that the outer faces of the ply run along the width, not the length, as a result it HEAVILY resists bending...
This shield blank has the fate of becomming our second imbracciatura (th-cam.com/video/iZ3i9krHmjY/w-d-xo.html). But i can take the oppotunity to focus a bit more on the straps. But other shields are also in the planning =)
thank you so much i made a view shields with normal planks its more of a tournament shield, its only to look great. but it was like 7 kg so not very useful in combat. now i will try to make this shield. thank you for showing the steps you are great.
Die Spannriemen wollten nicht gefunden werden, daher in diesem Video ohne =) manche Schritte sind leichter, andere schwerer mit Riemen. Für eine "Massenproduktion" ist irgendwann eine Positiv/Negativ Form als Schildpresse idealer. Dann wäre es auch möglich authentische schilde aus Planken einfach in formen zu verleimen. Kommt vieleicht irgendwann ;-)
@@SchildwachePotsdam Stimmt wenn man mehrere macht lohnt sich das. :-) Bis denn Stefan. Ich hab euch mal über die Rittergilde angeschrieben...allerdings Martin.
The clamps to bend the shield have a spaceing of 52cm, the woodclamps to press the sheets together are just standart sizes and additionally the aluminium square rods are just longer than the shield is high (more than 130cm). I hope the right answer was given ;-).
@@SchildwachePotsdam thanks a lot, i was interested in the 52 cm ones. Initially i was going to bend my planks against a big oil barrel, but it has ridges which could deform the planks, so i will try your method
Keep in mind that after gluing, there is springyness in the boards, thus the bend will be less than during gluing. Better to use more than 2, if you have the possibilty, you can also take a big board and put 2 parallel timbers instead of the clamps. Or more clamps =)
Do you build round shields as well ? I mean round bend shileds like a hoplite ? Because we once made a video with shilds build by ourself, but they were flat, so i was curious how someone made that.
Ja, wir nutzen die Sachen sowohl für technisches Training als auch unkooperatives Sparring. Natürlich nicht die reinen Holzplatten. Die schilde bekommen noch eine Textil oder Rohaut bespannung, und je nach Anwendung wird ggf. die Kante verstärkt (z.b. Buckler oder Rundschilde). Für den Fall der Schild ist für einen höher Intensitäts Kontext funktioniert das ganze auch mit 3 lagen oder je nach budget auch andern Holzarten. Wir werden aufjedenfall Footage posten sobald wir wieder gemeinsam Fechten dürfen :-)
I know that this is an old video but I do wonder would this step be necessary for a tower shield (not scutum, just a plain tower shield) because I want to make a shield that can is focused on blocking Ranged attacks like airsoft and paintball would a flat shield work or even be better?
the curve gives it lots of stability, because the energy of the impact is distributed along the curve and not just dead center on the thin material. So it might reflect the projectly which reduces the damage to the shield by dissipating the energy elsewhere. Here you can find exactly what you are looking for: th-cam.com/video/C5w0h1VkR_M/w-d-xo.html =) Best, Stephan
Could you use 5 or 6mm thick plywood? Im afraid that those thicknesses wouldnt take shape. That they will straighten back up after you release the clamps. Im asking because I cant find 4mm thick plywood. Also, would you say 10 (2x5) or 12mm (2x6) thick shield blanks are good for historical accuracy?
It could work with 5 or 6mm, but probably you have to bend it at a way smaller radius to compansate for the snapping back after releasing the tension during glueing. What you can do against rupturing of the surface is using a lot of glue and wet the other surfaces slightly. But I think ending up with 12 mm is the absolute maximum for a shield thickness. You could also use 3 layers of 3-4mm ply to achieve this thickness. For more strength I would go to maximum of 9mm thickness and just add another layer of linen on the backside and maybe a hide topping on the front. Than it becomes like medival fiberglass
This is the easiest and most convenient way to make a bent shield blank that I know, thank you) I use a more complex system and it doesn't really suit me.
Thank you! It's intended to be a convinient way to build one with little tools. If you have space and the resources, a shield press would be supirior of cause, but it only can produce one at the time 😁. Best, Stephan
Depends on the Targa, do you mean the scottish round shield, the buckler-type from italy, the tournament-jousting type, a parvese or the HMB-buhurt punshing thingy? :D
Depends on the bending radius, maybe its to much or the wood is to dry. you could try to wet it a littlebit before bending and always bend 2 pieces together with glue inbetween. (then also a evtl crack will be directly resealed again)
If you've got questions or ideas on what to build next, leave us a comment! :)
I´d love to see moore videos on shield building - and since getting a decent shield could be rather expensive I think a lot of people out there share my interests.
how would you make a curved round shield?
I have one
What direction does your plywood naturally want to bend
Im trying to make it thw same way, but im finding it very difficult, as it seems that the outer faces of the ply run along the width, not the length, as a result it HEAVILY resists bending...
could you make a roman sheild 33 inches by 42?
What bracket did you use??
By far the simplest method I’ve seen so far, good for beginners I imagine
Sehr schön, vielen Dank für das Video!
Bitteschön ^.^
I would love to see you finishing this shield and maybe show different straps and holds that may be put in the shield
I agree with Nikola, would love to see different straps and holds!
This shield blank has the fate of becomming our second imbracciatura (th-cam.com/video/iZ3i9krHmjY/w-d-xo.html). But i can take the oppotunity to focus a bit more on the straps. But other shields are also in the planning =)
thank you so much i made a view shields with normal planks its more of a tournament shield, its only to look great. but it was like 7 kg so not very useful in combat. now i will try to make this shield. thank you for showing the steps you are great.
This is amazing! Thanks for the tipp, I'm gonna test that right away!
Gute Methode, ich habe es mit mehreren Spannriemen gemacht um die Wölbung des Schildrohlings zu erreichen. Tolles Video. Fechterische Grüße.
Die Spannriemen wollten nicht gefunden werden, daher in diesem Video ohne =) manche Schritte sind leichter, andere schwerer mit Riemen. Für eine "Massenproduktion" ist irgendwann eine Positiv/Negativ Form als Schildpresse idealer. Dann wäre es auch möglich authentische schilde aus Planken einfach in formen zu verleimen. Kommt vieleicht irgendwann ;-)
@@SchildwachePotsdam Stimmt wenn man mehrere macht lohnt sich das. :-) Bis denn Stefan. Ich hab euch mal über die Rittergilde angeschrieben...allerdings Martin.
I just discovered your channel, and it is massively under rated. Amazing content
Thank you, we do our best =)
Ganz klar und einfach
what was the over all cost?
I estimate around 20 € if you buy stuff like the woodglue in bulk, the 2 boards were around 8 eur back then, but wood prices changed a bit.
Very nice method, how long are your clamps ? I have planks of the exact same size
The clamps to bend the shield have a spaceing of 52cm, the woodclamps to press the sheets together are just standart sizes and additionally the aluminium square rods are just longer than the shield is high (more than 130cm). I hope the right answer was given ;-).
@@SchildwachePotsdam thanks a lot, i was interested in the 52 cm ones.
Initially i was going to bend my planks against a big oil barrel, but it has ridges which could deform the planks, so i will try your method
Keep in mind that after gluing, there is springyness in the boards, thus the bend will be less than during gluing. Better to use more than 2, if you have the possibilty, you can also take a big board and put 2 parallel timbers instead of the clamps. Or more clamps =)
@@SchildwachePotsdam thanks, i got lots of clamps, this is not my first shield (just the biggest so far)
Do you build round shields as well ? I mean round bend shileds like a hoplite ? Because we once made a video with shilds build by ourself, but they were flat, so i was curious how someone made that.
We do and releases the video today =)
No plywood that i've attempted bends that effortlessly. What plywood are you using?
poplar plywood around 2-3mm i think =)
Kämpft Ihr auch mit der gebauten Ausrüstung ?
Ja, wir nutzen die Sachen sowohl für technisches Training als auch unkooperatives Sparring. Natürlich nicht die reinen Holzplatten. Die schilde bekommen noch eine Textil oder Rohaut bespannung, und je nach Anwendung wird ggf. die Kante verstärkt (z.b. Buckler oder Rundschilde). Für den Fall der Schild ist für einen höher Intensitäts Kontext funktioniert das ganze auch mit 3 lagen oder je nach budget auch andern Holzarten. Wir werden aufjedenfall Footage posten sobald wir wieder gemeinsam Fechten dürfen :-)
I know that this is an old video but I do wonder would this step be necessary for a tower shield (not scutum, just a plain tower shield) because I want to make a shield that can is focused on blocking Ranged attacks like airsoft and paintball would a flat shield work or even be better?
the curve gives it lots of stability, because the energy of the impact is distributed along the curve and not just dead center on the thin material. So it might reflect the projectly which reduces the damage to the shield by dissipating the energy elsewhere. Here you can find exactly what you are looking for: th-cam.com/video/C5w0h1VkR_M/w-d-xo.html =) Best, Stephan
@SchildwachePotsdam hey, thanks for the recommendation. I honestly never expected that you would reply, so I am definitely subbing
Can you vive me the link where you get these planks
I got them in a hardware store locally.
Could you use 5 or 6mm thick plywood?
Im afraid that those thicknesses wouldnt take shape. That they will straighten back up after you release the clamps.
Im asking because I cant find 4mm thick plywood.
Also, would you say 10 (2x5) or 12mm (2x6) thick shield blanks are good for historical accuracy?
It could work with 5 or 6mm, but probably you have to bend it at a way smaller radius to compansate for the snapping back after releasing the tension during glueing. What you can do against rupturing of the surface is using a lot of glue and wet the other surfaces slightly. But I think ending up with 12 mm is the absolute maximum for a shield thickness. You could also use 3 layers of 3-4mm ply to achieve this thickness. For more strength I would go to maximum of 9mm thickness and just add another layer of linen on the backside and maybe a hide topping on the front. Than it becomes like medival fiberglass
This is the easiest and most convenient way to make a bent shield blank that I know, thank you) I use a more complex system and it doesn't really suit me.
Thank you! It's intended to be a convinient way to build one with little tools. If you have space and the resources, a shield press would be supirior of cause, but it only can produce one at the time 😁. Best, Stephan
Have you tried to make a wooden targa? Isnt' that a great idea for another video? Yes, it is a great idea
Depends on the Targa, do you mean the scottish round shield, the buckler-type from italy, the tournament-jousting type, a parvese or the HMB-buhurt punshing thingy? :D
I got 4mm ply and when I try to bend it i hear cracking. is that normal?
Depends on the bending radius, maybe its to much or the wood is to dry. you could try to wet it a littlebit before bending and always bend 2 pieces together with glue inbetween. (then also a evtl crack will be directly resealed again)
How much does that weigh?
Between 2.5 and 3 kg, but beeing straped to the arm it basically feels weightless
how to cover a shield woul be cool
Its on the list ;-) raw hide, leather or textil?
@@SchildwachePotsdam could you make a roman sheild how to? I am trying not to spend 500 Dollars.