Tape editing was an art. But kids today can't understand how it's done. So on one machine, I record one bar of a drum break. I then scrub it and find the beginning and the end of the part and mark them with a grease pencil. I pull them over the edit block and literally slice the tape with a razor. I then tape it together so that the beginning of the tape is connected with the end, creating a loop. I then play the machine with the loop on it, to the multitrack, laying down the breakbeat for as long as needed.
What?! Just Like music was done on the Roland W-30? That's crazy! I loved how it sampling across the keys. I think the sample rate was 12 - bit. Classic machine.
It’s funny that there were people out there with way more equipment than EPMD who we’ve never heard of because talent and creativity overcomes limitations.
As a rapper/producer that started in the late 80s early 90s I also recorded my 1st album Lo Twon Wicked Leaf on a 8 track reel to reel recorder but I would love to see exactly how E double looped the samples using the splice/wrap around the room method!!!!!!!! please make a Tutorial on it!!!!! I know im not the only person who can't imagine it being done that way is just amazing!!!!!!
2-track reel to reel was a lucky pawn shop find. 4-track find were unicorns. Securing an 8-track reel to reel and doing stuff in a pieced together bedroom or basement studio made you a Home Studio Nino Brown.
@@ripskip160samplers at the time didnt have enough memory available for those beats. It was part sampled on whatever sampler they had, parts from playing on the turntables and drum machines doubling and adding to the breaks. Then it would be all spliced together in a loop, and played. That’d be the base. We’re talking about an era when splicing tape with extreme precision was mandatory to any sound engineer. Eric B & Rakim’s Paid In Full, the Beastie Boys Paul’s Boutique, De La Soul.. they all used the same technique because thats how it was done back then
Best beats and sounds when it’s audio gumbo and you appreciate all the flavors and textures….and when it SHOULDN’T sound/taste good but still does, there’s no duplicating that. One of the best examples is DJ Premier’s ‘Take it Personal’.
If you listen to Hostile you can hear the weird offbeat blip sound where the sample loops in a weird spot, I thought my vinyl was screwed until I listened to the track on TH-cam and heard it there too
Quest Love grew up in the spoiled era too.😅 People put in work to get their sound. Imagine arranging vocals, horn and strings around the sound. That's Production and Talent! 😭
when i think about it, erick sermon and dj paul from three 6 mafia are real similar when it comes to sampling because they layer a bunch of samples. they both use the roland w30 too
the 90's we're savage when making rap beats.. using drum machines, 1200 decks etc on Tascam 8 tracks,16 and the akai sampler with 30 sec sampling time 1995
I would say the W30 and ASR10 are the two best old skool samplers I've ever used. Sometimes the limitations of these older pieces of kit are what make magic
Erick Sermon isn't appreciated enough. He deserves to be in GOAT discussions as much as Premo and Pete Rock
I respect his decision to put “Produced by EPMD” in the album liner notes.
He definitely is
He's completely overlooked in the best producers conversation
TOO FACTS MAN!!! his beats are straight butter
YOu've got a clever and funny name. Also, why would we not think that he and Parrish are in the conversation of outstanding individuals?
Mannn I could listen to the triple OGs explain their early production techniques foreverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.... SO DOPE.
EPMD made phenomenal albums.
Legendary
I love how E said “Nobody knows about that record but YOUUU” haha what a legend! 👑
Yeah it was absolutely boring lol
Questlove ya gotta get QD3 on here
Erick Sermon's beats sound so earthy... it's like you are walking through mud... and enjoying it... :)
Facts!!!
Tape editing was an art. But kids today can't understand how it's done. So on one machine, I record one bar of a drum break. I then scrub it and find the beginning and the end of the part and mark them with a grease pencil. I pull them over the edit block and literally slice the tape with a razor. I then tape it together so that the beginning of the tape is connected with the end, creating a loop. I then play the machine with the loop on it, to the multitrack, laying down the breakbeat for as long as needed.
What?! Just Like music was done on the Roland W-30? That's crazy! I loved how it sampling across the keys. I think the sample rate was 12 - bit. Classic machine.
E-Dub is the 🐐 period.
One of em...but yeah...he's probably the first producer I fell in love with. Definitely a GOAT producer.
🎶Limitations🎵makes 🎹 masterpieces 🎤 in 🎸music 🎼 .
Erick Sermon's beats are crazy
Erick is always on point 💪😎🎸
It’s funny that there were people out there with way more equipment than EPMD who we’ve never heard of because talent and creativity overcomes limitations.
EPMD is my favorite rap group next to run dmc,I listen to their albums several times a week
Respect E Double, Respect Bomb Squad for Making it sound good all together breaking down To 128 tracks but , layering skills Impeccable 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿👆🏿
Those guys are legendary beat making of hop hop production game not unlike today young producers making salty trap weak hip hop tracks
@oholm09 Nuff Said 💯
Dope interview
The timing, just restored my fathers roland w30 he got as a gift from my mom when they met. Then here i ariived in 98 baby🎉
Your parents are legends off of that comment alone. Please get a channel and expound.
@@no_guarantees I 2nd this comment!
*Arrived*
As a rapper/producer that started in the late 80s early 90s I also recorded my 1st album Lo Twon Wicked Leaf on a 8 track reel to reel recorder but I would love to see exactly how E double looped the samples using the splice/wrap around the room method!!!!!!!! please make a Tutorial on it!!!!! I know im not the only person who can't imagine it being done that way is just amazing!!!!!!
2-track reel to reel was a lucky pawn shop find. 4-track find were unicorns. Securing an 8-track reel to reel and doing stuff in a pieced together bedroom or basement studio made you a Home Studio Nino Brown.
I don't believe Eric is being honest about how he made those beats and you can tell Quest is having a hard time believing him too lol
@@ripskip160samplers at the time didnt have enough memory available for those beats. It was part sampled on whatever sampler they had, parts from playing on the turntables and drum machines doubling and adding to the breaks. Then it would be all spliced together in a loop, and played. That’d be the base. We’re talking about an era when splicing tape with extreme precision was mandatory to any sound engineer. Eric B & Rakim’s Paid In Full, the Beastie Boys Paul’s Boutique, De La Soul.. they all used the same technique because thats how it was done back then
The famous conundrum "why doesn't mine sound like his! Ughhh!" Lol, good interview.
Another Quest video that once it starts, you can't stop watching till it's over ✊🏽
Still using my w30!!
Nice!
Very good Eric Sermon.
Definitely, E-Double is of my inspirations for making music. Splicing tape? Erick is the sample loop king
It helps hearing this
Best beats and sounds when it’s audio gumbo and you appreciate all the flavors and textures….and when it SHOULDN’T sound/taste good but still does, there’s no duplicating that. One of the best examples is DJ Premier’s ‘Take it Personal’.
thats the secret sauce low key
I know exactly what he's talking about Erick Sermon on how to Loop with splicing tape back to a two track. I learned this technique in the 90s
Very high hit rate!
(All thriller, no filler)
Great Information!
i used to always wonder what Ericks normal voice was like, he sounds exactly like he does on a track.
so so skilled!
If you listen to Hostile you can hear the weird offbeat blip sound where the sample loops in a weird spot, I thought my vinyl was screwed until I listened to the track on TH-cam and heard it there too
That’s amazing 😮
Thank you do the marley marl interview about the around the way girl and full term love?
Quest Love grew up in the spoiled era too.😅
People put in work to get their sound.
Imagine arranging vocals, horn and strings around the sound.
That's Production and Talent! 😭
Spoiled? Please explain this. Going forward this may be a thing.
@SDSOverfiend Splicing tape before automation
when i think about it, erick sermon and dj paul from three 6 mafia are real similar when it comes to sampling because they layer a bunch of samples. they both use the roland w30 too
that keep it real track though!!!
Dope !
I used ti perfectly loop beats from double tapedecks
E DOUBLE! This man dominated 90s hiphop. He is the master! None of you 2k kids know.
the 90's we're savage when making rap beats.. using drum machines, 1200 decks etc on Tascam 8 tracks,16 and the akai sampler with 30 sec sampling time 1995
*Were* ,not we're.
They don't sound the same at all.
Analog > Digital !! (Timing is Different) ~ 📡
Stellar.
The W30 was the most amazing sampler I've ever used.
Better than the ASR-10?
I would say the W30 and ASR10 are the two best old skool samplers I've ever used. Sometimes the limitations of these older pieces of kit are what make magic
@@keithroberts9869 How is it compared to the EPS 16 Plus?
How Erick made Hittin switches or CHILL , on EPMD Biz Never Personal. , just swamp muddy and gritty.
I still don’t understand, or can’t visualize, the “tape around the room/Beastie Boys” thing. I really want to.
Nice
Watch yo nuggets by Redman is another one
Has anyone in here ever been a studio??
I Have...
The Funklord!!!!
💪🏻
I saw this guy getting gas in my old neighborhood of Bayside back in the day
quest repeatedly not comprehending the idea of tape loops is beyond comprehension.
He's comprehending he's just respectfully trying to call cap lol
@@ripskip160 lol nah
😊
I feel like such a Hip-Hop snob knowing these album cuts getting mentioned. LOL
Doing the Best with much less!
Erick is criminally underrated and copied too
I've Seen the loop tape trick in 2018 using a 48 track ATR @omegarecordingstudio in Rockville MD. Shout to Scotty Otool for that lesson.