I love the theme song... and I love how Beato explains the complexities of what is going on in the music... and the artist is like, "I had no idea I was doing that!"
Pretty sure Seal had the same reaction in conversation with Beato. He was unaware he was breaking normal rules in 'kiss from a rose' as he didn't know what the 'rules' were!
When you watch Rick interview famous musicians there is always this transition from tension to relaxation on the part of the "star" Its instantly apparent that Rick Beato is a formally trained musician/songwriter/teacher. A lot of people we look up to aren't formally trained. It was refreshing to see Justin be so casual about it. Watch the Sting and Billy Corgan interviews and you'll see both men on guard (Literally arms crossed and defensive)for the first bit and by the middle they realize Rick isn't beating them up as he is a true fan of their special genius. Then the floodgates open and he gets the best interviews you've ever seen. So yeah I can see here that there won't be a uncomfortable beginning interview section because Justin is so comfortable in his own skin.
Thanks for posting this. I nixed the Sting interview after 5 minutes because I thought Sting was too uptight and reticent. I'll have to watch the whole interview. I loved Rick's interview with Billy Corgan. Check out his interview with Thomas Newman. That was the most fascinating from a musical & creative standpoint.
@@carlmarks8170 it's probably the best Sting interview ever because Sting is *usually* uptight, but as the conversation with Rick progresses, he becomes more and more relaxed, it's almost fascinating to watch.
@@carlmarks8170 I almost bailed on the Sting interview too. Sting definitely loosens up once he realizes Rick is all about the music and not looking for a "gotcha"
Worked with a band in the early 2000's that had worked with him. I unfortunately did not get to, but the music he helped with was the best on the record. Really missed out not getting to meet him.
If you see "blue collar" looking into a studio with a good $1M in gear...then I'm afraid you might be interpreting the phrase too literally. Wearing a denim button down doesn't make you "blue collar"!😂 (Ironically, Rick wears whatever he likes because he is self employed.) And being rich doesn't necessarily make you a greedy monster. 🤷♂️
@@lueysixty-six7300 Fair point. To clarify what I meant by ‘blue collar’… he speaks common people music language, not snobbish conservatory language, and communicates directly and plainly to listeners, rather than speaking down to students from an ‘ivory tower’ vantage, like so many music snobs do. That’s all.
@@MisterFatherSir310 His opinions are his own. He actually has took the limit OFF of my creativity. He has introduced his audience to countless artists, spanning every genre. The guy is a bottomless pit of musical knowledge; and he is doing us a favor by sharing that knowledge with us. But yeah hes a tottallllll snob; eletist, cabal, illuminati. God damn the internet is hilarious 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
So much solipsism in TH-cam comments these days. Kinda rude but then again it is born out of arrogance. "Nobody knows, nobody understands, nobody realizes." They do.
Two of my favourite TH-cam channels ever collaborating! I love Rick and his dissections of music! I love Justin and everything he does! It’s a win win!
Rick is a great mind and great guy. Had the opportunity to work with him. Being a vocalist he really challenged me and the band to step it up and explore more. His knowledge really shined through on our track DOWN BELOW band KRAMUS from Indiana. Shameless plug.
You should edit your comment so that the band name is Krampus. I just gave your song a listen, and although not being my usual type of music, I thought it was an awesome piece of music. Shameless plug = success. ✌️🇦🇺
@Keith Ferris "Quick lesson" proceeds to shred for 40 seconds. "Like that." Nah, but CJ aside, I really do like and respect Rick. What a cool life journey.
I love how star struck you seemed to be while talking to Rick. Especially when he complimented your theme song. And I love how gracious Rick is when he's answering your questions about the cords (something that goes completely over my head).
Chords are what you play on the guitar…cords are what you pull your curtains open with…..sorry after midnight appears to be when my spelling pedant appears….😬
The look on your face as you listened to Rick dissecting your theme tune is the exact same look I get watching you break down songs every single day! It’s brilliant seeing you express the same joy and wonder that you so often inspire in me! Love this collaboration! Can’t wait to see the full thing! 😁🥰💖
Your intro is what hooks music lovers who don't know your videos. Your soothing voice, your passion you share through your words and your general style are keeping us here.
I love this because it confirms a suspicion of mine that artists don't always know quite what it is they're doing. I'm an author (under a different name) and I read reviews or analyses of my books and think, "Huh, did not realize I was doing that." I especially love when someone credits me with being inspired by an author who, invariably, I've never heard of.
Definitely. Especially in the Rock world. It's like Rick always says, "they may not know what they are doing, but I do". For many it's just been a long time of learning by listening. Personally I don't believe there is any "magic" in song writing. It's just a skill like any other. I mean...it's still amazing when you hear someone write something and realize you would never write like that and wonder how they came up with it, but ultimately that's just a product of their influences and how they improvise around those influences. To me it's like a sliding scale where you have technique on one end and song writing/arranging at the other. People who spend the majority of their time practicing licks and scales and speed and chops etc...are going to be more to the technique side and people who spend all their time listening to their favorite artists, copying the styles and arrangements and then improvising over what they learn, become the amazing writers. It's what made a guy like Eddie Van Halen so special. He had buckets of skill, but also understood all the writing and arranging side of it too.
I think they know what they’re doing in that they are creating sounds that they have in their head. They might not know the formal name of the chord they are using, but practice has always preceded the theory.
@@doublestrokeroll Just because you understand and enjoy the technical side of things does not mean that you can't write a great song. This is the bs argument that ppl like Steve Vai or Joe Satriani have no soul or heart in their music- when the reality is their music is dripping with it. Steve is one of, if not the most, expressive guitarists to ever play- he can put more feeling and emotion into one note than most guys can squeeze into a full solo. Bands like Polyphia put out amazing music all the time- it doesn't get much more technically oriented than that stuff. I would argue "stylized' and "technical" are basically the same thing- which means guys like Guthrie Govan are extremely technical when you think about it. Mike Dawes is very technical. They're just utilizing new techniques they came up with. Hell, even pure pentatonic blues is a technique- if you want to be strict about the definition. So really, I don't even get this argument, it makes no sense. Everyone, including you- uses technique.
@@stoneysdead689 For sure. I totally agree. But ultimately "soul" and "heart" are 100% subjective no matter how much people like to think they can objectively "hear" it. For example I think there is more "soul" and "heart" in your average Chemical Brothers song than anything I've ever heard from Joe Bonamassa. That guy is as boring to me as any music I've ever heard. I get nothing emotional from it whatsoever. Having said that, I would never argue that his fans are wrong for getting emotion from him. And sorry, but I really don't like Guthrie Govan's music. Again...I don't get anything from it. I appreciate the talent. Guy is amazing and I wish I had a pinkie's worth of his chops....lol...but musically he just doesn't do it for me. Having said all that, there are, again in my opinion, many examples of great technical players, who songs are not written or arranged very well and really kind of just serve as a vehicle for their technique. A perfectly valid thing to do, but not something I'm very interested in. And I would argue by the fairly limited appeal said artists "technical" music tends to have amongst the greater population, a lot of people feel that way. Again...I'm not saying "better". There is no better in music. But the ability to write catchy melodic music that has very clever arrangements is a thing. It's a skill, and not everyone is great at it.
As fascinating as Rick is on all things music, what is the most impressive thing to watch is what he's done with his son Dylan. That is the most perfect pitch I have ever seen or heard. If you haven't seen him demonstrate his perfect pitch, go and watch it before you reply to this comment. Rick will play these incredibly complex chords on the piano and Dylan nails it every single time. He was immersed in complex, high information music since he was born. Literally. Like I said, the most amazing thing Rick has ever accomplished. In my opinion. He may disagree
I would love to see a chat between yourself and Dan, talking about each others experiences leading up to and being part of the Darkness and how you managed to avoid the battling siblings in a band troupe or if indeed there is some bitter under lying resentments that can be captured in a live chat environment 😆
Keep an eye out for the premiere during the week! In the mean time I'm doing some cool interactive stuff with my patrons this week, you can check out what we're up to here: www.patreon.com/jushawk (my private livestream podcast is tomorrow at 9pm GMT as per usual)
Not going to lie. You, Pat etc seem like the more 'grounded' not schmuck type of people on TH-cam. Beato seems to be the person in the 80s to promise gold mountains and uses words like " industry ". But hey, I'm a very judgemental person. It is cool to see him appreciate you and have an in depth talk about theory
Thank you so much for this video! I can't wait to change my guitar strings as I retuned it after so long without playing it (trying to get your theme tune) and the first string burst💥🤦♀️. Thank you also for making me return to a hobby that I have always loved.😘 I can't wait to see the full interview with Rick Beato too, the part you have posted left us wanting to see more!!!🤩🤩🤩
I haven't been this excited about watching something in a LONG time, so thank you for that! Honest, watching you two beam at each other had me smiling like a loony to the point of a solitary tear! In truth, I've been here from the theme tune"s inception, and the first thing I said to my partner was, "I really hope Justin gets a Beato interview one day." WELL YOU'VE ONLY BALLY WELL GONE AND DONE IT! Thanks again, squire. Truly.
One of the things I love about both Rick and you is your generosity. You both share far more about what musicians do and how they do it than you need to do, and you make the rest of us the better for it. A few weeks ago I shared your TH-cam channel with a friend who turned me onto Rick's channel, and I expect he is going to appreciate my recommendation as much as I do his. You are both gems.
It’s interesting and entertaining to watch this. I enjoyed music from The Darkness as a band. But getting a glimpse of Justin as a person is something I wouldn’t have gotten growing up because there just wasn’t a platform for it. Really cool.
I’d love to see a long format interview with your other fellow members of The Darkness. I’ve read articles with Dan and Frankie but an interview between you guys talking shop or where you’re going as a band would be fascinating. Maybe a Mr. Roger Taylor would come on the show? Always a good time. Keep up the good work.
Justin, your theme tune always reminds me of a a phrase from a medieval piece, yet when heard as chords they do indeed sound Spanish. If Rick Beato flatters you, pin it on, stick your chest out and strut about proudly! 😎🤩
For me, that intro/outro initially made me laugh, seemed super random and something he made up on the spot... and now it's my favorite part of these videos. It's just brilliant, both the composition and JH's commitment to it.
Hi Justin. I'm so delighted you're a fan of the mighty Mr. Beato. I've been watching him for years and just about 95% of what he says sails so far above my head that it might as well be on Mars, but that doesn't detract one iota from the sheer delight of listening to someone talking effortlessly and with knowledge about songs that I love.
The algorithms collide! Been a RB subscriber for quite some time and his music knowledge is expansive, most of all he’s genial, genuine and good for the musical soul. The musical ear he has is not in everyone’s gift and he is encouraging to musicians whatever their level; listener to seasoned sessioneer.
I love when Rick beato does his Spotify top 10 Countdown because you see him just pick up the guitar and play every song right from the jump without ever hearing it. I know he likes to shrug that off and say everybody should be able to do it. But he honestly is either way too modest or doesn't know his talent. Can't wait for the full interview
'Ere, I was indeed wondering what was going on with the aforementioned Rick Beato chat. I'm going to save watching it until a weekend, and have it as my evening treat! Thanks Mr. Justin.
What are luxury you had to have an interview with Mr. BEATO. You're such a genuine person and it was obvious you're CHUFFED when Mr BEATO not only knew your theme song, and played it, but knew the exact chords which you were unsure off . I'm looking for to the full interview.Thank you for being...you....anf a part of my musical journey ...as well as an inspiration for me to carry on playing. Respect, brother.
I think you're right, Creepy Clips. Start out the long form interviews w/ friends in the industry so that there's a level of comfort there, hopefully, right from the beginning.
Can't wait to hear the interview. I love Rick's and your channel for the same reason. It's Music Appreciation 101. Listening with intention. You guys rock.
Thank you Justin! This is brilliant 👍 Finally you and Rick together!! Made my day! Can't wait to see the full interview. Hope you all can do an episode on Rick's channel of "What makes this song great" and do an actual Darkness song.
Pitting your ear for, that'll do, against Rick's, here's why it's great and your adoration of the praise, while remaining you. Just reminds me of how awesome and honest you are.
I love @RickBeato and I do think he is great at explaining theory, etc. and he also has a great ear. But there's a long chat here about the 1st chord of the theme being half diminished when it's clearly a diminished 7th run down. And even you, Justin, explain the origins of that phrase coming from a line containing 4 notes which are 3 semitones apart from each other (a diminished 7th arpeggio, not a half diminished arpeggio). I don't wish to come across like a know-it-all, angry musician shouting my opinions at the internet; just wanted to point out that what Rick is explaining isn't correct... Please let let me know if I'm wrong..! Both of you have great channels, by the way! And thanks for all the brilliant insights
Rick is one of the most important people in music at the moment, Millions of people are learning about the nuts and bolts of "songs" and how to construct them, how to approach music at all levels from watching him do his stuff. He's made me a better (amateur) songwriter and producer than I would ever have dreamed possible and I'm sure that better musicians than me will take his knowledge a lot further than I could.
Clearly not. I mean the person that wrote the theme tune said that he doesn't know a B diminished from an F# augmented - but he wrote it regardless. So clearly the name is immaterial and using the name is not as important as you're suggesting. It's like the over analysis of Beatles songs. Paul did many or all of their songs by strumming on a guitar and singing over the top or poking away at the piano. Both until he got something he liked the sound of. Maybe George Martin threw in some of his knowledge. You can see in one of the Get Back videos Harrison asking an actual musician who turned up (George Benson) what a particular chord they were using is - and he tells them, but it was obviously not that important to the success of the beatles was it? If you play a triad and move each note up or down you're going to find the minors, suspended chords, the diminished and augmented chords etc and hear the sound they make. Or you can stack thirds, play 2 triads together. If you're interested in music you can learn it but it's really peripheral. In fact it's the least important aspect, developing an ear is more important and being able to imagine music in your head and then play that on the instrument. I mean no jazz musician who is improvising over changes is thinking "I'm going to play a flattened 5th" because by the time you've had that thought you've missed the beat. You'll note how many interviews Beato has had with big artists who he's telling them they used a flat 5 augmented suspended add 9 whatever and they just stare at him blankly.
@@michael1 So you type all that about that one aspect of what he can do that you don't see the value in and therefor he has no effect on anything at all. I'd be the first to agree that ear comes first but all that knowledge he has on the subject can only be more tools at hand. Every different angle you look at music from is a new and inspiring perspective and leads to deeper understanding and the only reason I can see for the point you're making is that you resent theory because you don't get it.
@@michael1 Theory is a tool to help you master your craft faster! Why do you think Jazz musicians (or many of the great musicians) spend endless time with scales, arpegios, chord studies .... until it is ingraind in their head so they don't have to think any more, just create music?
@@rogerforsman5064 I think they do it primarily because they make a mistake of believing that knowing a scale will tell them what notes they can or can't play. Then they switch to arpeggios when they note that often playing a note that's in the scale doesn't work - again it's all struggling to understand the flawed idea "theory" will tell them what notes they should or shouldn't be playing. By the time they've learnt enough to realise that's not how music works they've done all that stuff regardless that it's not as helpful as you appear to have mistakenly believed. At that point you're left with 12 notes and you can play any of them over anything. The trick is deciding what noise you want to make before you play. Typically when people go to theory it's because they have some aesthetic notion of how they want their solo to sound - like they want the notes to "fit" and the mistake the scale and arpeggio approach was suggesting some notes are "wrong" and others are "right", really though the idea the player is playing in tune and notes that "fit" has more to do with the timing of the so-called "wrong" notes and "right" notes. Aside from the fact that all that earlier practise was just a lot of "playing notes" - which is useful in itself because you're getting better at playing notes - it's wasted time in terms of "what notes should I play?" leading towards the realisation that you can play anything - any note, over any chord in any sequence. Oops though that still doesn't tell you what you should play. If you're looking for that, yes, you can learn to play what other people have played before or scales, arpeggios - and you can get some "wrong" notes included by adding techniques like "approach notes" which your hypothetical great musician isn't playing because he only plays scales or arpeggios. Maybe he's not that great after all eh? So I'd suggest that most musicians are learning these things because they aren't great. They do it just like when the would-be rock musician starts learning saying "you can play anything" would just leave him bewildered by an excess of choice and without a well enough developed ear to be able to think "I listened to this Black Sabbath album and I want to make the noises they are" - if he had perfect pitch or a lot of patience he could just listen and then find those noises. But, equally you can show him some root and fifth chords and a scale you call pentatonic or blues and he takes in that information as "this are the notes I can play" - but that's not expanding his mind - that's limiting his mind until he's sufficiently developed as a musician to not need the artificial restriction of a scale. Look at how many rock-based tutorials are "how to break out of scale boxes" - trying to undo the damage so to speak. Of course many a musician may well create a lot of great songs, maybe even have a big rock star career without ever developing as a musician beyond these scale shapes - but it's a big mistake to believe that is what you need to learn to play and most definitely a mistake to believe this is part of being a great musician.
WOW!!! My feelings exactly!! Justin, I started following your channel on the video recommendation of, one Tom Bukovac, noted first call Nashville session musician (and friend of Rick Beato). He commented on his channel "501chorusecho" that he enjoyed your videos so, as a dedicated "Homeskooler" I took his sage advice and starting watching your videos! Isn't the music version of the circle of life a beautiful thing!! I can't wait to watch your video with Rick! I've been following him for a long time, have his Beato Book and am hoping that some small grains of music theory penetrate my thick skull!! Thank you for doing what you do and being who you are Justin!! Keep Riding!!
After all this time, hearing Rick and Justin pick apart the theme, I finally realize what it reminds me of!!! The All in the Family theme song. “Gee, our old LaSalle ran greaaaaaaaat!”
Got to be the greatest musical accolade hasn't it!? Stuff your Brit/Grammy Awards. You've been Beato'd. Only an extremely, select and privileged group can say they've been Beato'd. Congratulations Justin 👏🏻👍🏻👍🏻👏🏻
Justin, your clips are a joy. Even if I'm not always interested in the topic of the moment I still enjoy hearing you talk about it. It's like hanging out with a good friend. I appreciate you. Cheers!
Great producers like Rick are pivotal to making any artist take that next step in elevating their sound. As we saw from this video, they can explain it to you what you did with your own composition lol and how you can improve it further. Rick's knowledge of music is astounding.
My old man put me onto Beato a few years back and he's amazing, and to see you on the back foot for a change and fanboy-ing is class/humbling I cannot wait for this to come out 💪 top work again Justin 💪👍
I’m chuffed you and The Darkness are in the ascendant again, doing this (rather wonderful) podcast was a genius move and getting the likes of Mr Beato on is a boon too! May you continue to enjoy your recent successes Justin, and grow this channel 👍🏻
Here is a link to the full 2 hour conversation: th-cam.com/video/OaTkVi5ahFw/w-d-xo.html
Great video. I will watch the cast
Huzzah for long-form content - it's great to hear people really dig into their passions!
In a world dripping with rubbish, You two are what’s good about social media. Thanks.
Well put and very true.
Agreed
Well said , this short video has put a smile on my face
Good rubbish
With pat finnerty crashing into frame
I love the theme song... and I love how Beato explains the complexities of what is going on in the music... and the artist is like, "I had no idea I was doing that!"
Pretty sure Seal had the same reaction in conversation with Beato. He was unaware he was breaking normal rules in 'kiss from a rose' as he didn't know what the 'rules' were!
When you watch Rick interview famous musicians there is always this transition from tension to relaxation on the part of the "star"
Its instantly apparent that Rick Beato is a formally trained musician/songwriter/teacher. A lot of people we look up to aren't formally trained. It was refreshing to see Justin be so casual about it. Watch the Sting and Billy Corgan interviews and you'll see both men on guard (Literally arms crossed and defensive)for the first bit and by the middle they realize Rick isn't beating them up as he is a true fan of their special genius. Then the floodgates open and he gets the best interviews you've ever seen. So yeah I can see here that there won't be a uncomfortable beginning interview section because Justin is so comfortable in his own skin.
Thanks for posting this. I nixed the Sting interview after 5 minutes because I thought Sting was too uptight and reticent. I'll have to watch the whole interview. I loved Rick's interview with Billy Corgan. Check out his interview with Thomas Newman. That was the most fascinating from a musical & creative standpoint.
@@carlmarks8170 it's probably the best Sting interview ever because Sting is *usually* uptight, but as the conversation with Rick progresses, he becomes more and more relaxed, it's almost fascinating to watch.
True. Rick has mentioned before he is a huge fan of Sting. But he respects all musicians he interviews. His music knowledge is through the roof lol.
Well, Rick can't really write music. Or at least he hasn't written anything noteworthy.
@@carlmarks8170 I almost bailed on the Sting interview too. Sting definitely loosens up once he realizes Rick is all about the music and not looking for a "gotcha"
What a great interaction between Justin and Rick. They are both very "gentlemanly" guys, and they truly seem to genuinely hit it off.
What we've all been waiting for but didn't know we needed!! Rick and Justin having a chat about our favorite theme song!
It was an honour.
That's rad. I'm tuning in when it drops : ) Molly.
but why though :p
We need a Punk Rock MBA/Justin Hawkins collab
Can’t wait!!! I’m really looking forward to it! Two of my favorite UTUBE people chatting together! What in this world could be better!?!?!!!
I'd love for Beato to break down my music, but I'd also be kinda horrified at the same time.
Same 😂
Rick is erudite without being arrogant. He truly is the blue collar people’s music educator.
Worked with a band in the early 2000's that had worked with him. I unfortunately did not get to, but the music he helped with was the best on the record. Really missed out not getting to meet him.
If you see "blue collar" looking into a studio with a good $1M in gear...then I'm afraid you might be interpreting the phrase too literally. Wearing a denim button down doesn't make you "blue collar"!😂
(Ironically, Rick wears whatever he likes because he is self employed.)
And being rich doesn't necessarily make you a greedy monster. 🤷♂️
@@lueysixty-six7300 Fair point. To clarify what I meant by ‘blue collar’… he speaks common people music language, not snobbish conservatory language, and communicates directly and plainly to listeners, rather than speaking down to students from an ‘ivory tower’ vantage, like so many music snobs do. That’s all.
@@ambientideas1 Yeah, you want Finnerty if you want blue collar. Pat Finnerty.
Wasn’t Justin on wmtss ages ago?
Unreal, massive Rick Beato fan 👌🤘
Rick is the best. People just learning music don’t realize how blessed they are to have people like Rick to learn from literally just in your pocket
He's a snob and an eletist. His opinion on music and production will only pit unnecessary limits on your creativity
@@MisterFatherSir310 His opinions are his own. He actually has took the limit OFF of my creativity. He has introduced his audience to countless artists, spanning every genre. The guy is a bottomless pit of musical knowledge; and he is doing us a favor by sharing that knowledge with us.
But yeah hes a tottallllll snob; eletist, cabal, illuminati.
God damn the internet is hilarious 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I would not recommend Beato for anyone just learning music, or anyone halfway through their journey for that matter.
@@whatilearnttoday5295 there is a good amount of people that watch his channel that dont even play any instruments at all.
So much solipsism in TH-cam comments these days. Kinda rude but then again it is born out of arrogance. "Nobody knows, nobody understands, nobody realizes."
They do.
Justin's theme song IS cool, and I love how Rick just "knew" what he was playing! Brilliant! Both of them!
Two of my favourite TH-cam channels ever collaborating!
I love Rick and his dissections of music!
I love Justin and everything he does! It’s a win win!
Check out Carl Baldassarre. He's another guy with a great knowledge of music theory and has great enthusiasm when dissecting and explaining.
Personally I think writing and singing your own theme tune and putting your own name in the lyrics is a stroke of bold genius.
Isn’t it just? So obvious and simple.
Dennis Waterman, is that you?
I genuinely catch myself humming ‘JUUUUSSSTin Hawkins Riiiiides Aaaagaiiiiiin’ in my head regularly throughout the week
I believe Justin used to write jingles for advertising agencies, pre The Darkness.
Rick is a great mind and great guy. Had the opportunity to work with him. Being a vocalist he really challenged me and the band to step it up and explore more. His knowledge really shined through on our track DOWN BELOW band KRAMUS from Indiana. Shameless plug.
Well the shameless plug worked because I listened to it and it’s great. Nice one, as JH would say!
I whole heartedly love a shameless plug. If you arnt in, you can't win
You should edit your comment so that the band name is Krampus. I just gave your song a listen, and although not being my usual type of music, I thought it was an awesome piece of music.
Shameless plug = success. ✌️🇦🇺
Your plug is working lol. Not bad, at all! Good kickass rock n roll 🤘🏻
Sounds great! Very crisp and solid production. I like those delayed guitars in the intro very much!
I’ve been listening to Rick for years. He is an awesome musician, engineer, producer etc. 👏
Have you ever actually learnt anything from him which you were able to implement in practice?
@@whatilearnttoday5295 A fair amount, though you have to apply yourself, cos the information's there but it's too easy to leave it for now. lol
The beauty of the theme is it's live and always improvised.
Rick is a master at his craft and so hugely respected. Real sage.
And he's a great guitar player.
@Keith Ferris "Quick lesson" proceeds to shred for 40 seconds. "Like that."
Nah, but CJ aside, I really do like and respect Rick. What a cool life journey.
I love how star struck you seemed to be while talking to Rick. Especially when he complimented your theme song. And I love how gracious Rick is when he's answering your questions about the cords (something that goes completely over my head).
Chords are what you play on the guitar…cords are what you pull your curtains open with…..sorry after midnight appears to be when my spelling pedant appears….😬
Was gonna pick him up on the spelling …but didn’t wanna sound like you did lol😅
@@dalegallacher7074 in late from work after a really difficult day…all my own fault…so behaving like a dickhead….I did say sorry ! 🤣😉
Even when Rick sings the line first time with no backing, he's perfectly at the right pitch. He really breathes music.
The look on your face as you listened to Rick dissecting your theme tune is the exact same look I get watching you break down songs every single day! It’s brilliant seeing you express the same joy and wonder that you so often inspire in me! Love this collaboration! Can’t wait to see the full thing! 😁🥰💖
Briliant! I love your theme music and often find myself singing it out of nowhere.
There will be nothing more to watch on TH-cam after this interview. Sitting and watching these two greats, "geek out"; kicks 2023 off nicely. ❤This!
Your intro is what hooks music lovers who don't know your videos. Your soothing voice, your passion you share through your words and your general style are keeping us here.
Yeah man. He has that Freddy Mercury quality for sure :)
I love this because it confirms a suspicion of mine that artists don't always know quite what it is they're doing. I'm an author (under a different name) and I read reviews or analyses of my books and think, "Huh, did not realize I was doing that." I especially love when someone credits me with being inspired by an author who, invariably, I've never heard of.
Definitely. Especially in the Rock world. It's like Rick always says, "they may not know what they are doing, but I do". For many it's just been a long time of learning by listening. Personally I don't believe there is any "magic" in song writing. It's just a skill like any other. I mean...it's still amazing when you hear someone write something and realize you would never write like that and wonder how they came up with it, but ultimately that's just a product of their influences and how they improvise around those influences.
To me it's like a sliding scale where you have technique on one end and song writing/arranging at the other. People who spend the majority of their time practicing licks and scales and speed and chops etc...are going to be more to the technique side and people who spend all their time listening to their favorite artists, copying the styles and arrangements and then improvising over what they learn, become the amazing writers.
It's what made a guy like Eddie Van Halen so special. He had buckets of skill, but also understood all the writing and arranging side of it too.
I think they know what they’re doing in that they are creating sounds that they have in their head. They might not know the formal name of the chord they are using, but practice has always preceded the theory.
@@doublestrokeroll Just because you understand and enjoy the technical side of things does not mean that you can't write a great song. This is the bs argument that ppl like Steve Vai or Joe Satriani have no soul or heart in their music- when the reality is their music is dripping with it. Steve is one of, if not the most, expressive guitarists to ever play- he can put more feeling and emotion into one note than most guys can squeeze into a full solo. Bands like Polyphia put out amazing music all the time- it doesn't get much more technically oriented than that stuff. I would argue "stylized' and "technical" are basically the same thing- which means guys like Guthrie Govan are extremely technical when you think about it. Mike Dawes is very technical. They're just utilizing new techniques they came up with. Hell, even pure pentatonic blues is a technique- if you want to be strict about the definition. So really, I don't even get this argument, it makes no sense. Everyone, including you- uses technique.
@@stoneysdead689 For sure. I totally agree. But ultimately "soul" and "heart" are 100% subjective no matter how much people like to think they can objectively "hear" it.
For example I think there is more "soul" and "heart" in your average Chemical Brothers song than anything I've ever heard from Joe Bonamassa. That guy is as boring to me as any music I've ever heard. I get nothing emotional from it whatsoever. Having said that, I would never argue that his fans are wrong for getting emotion from him.
And sorry, but I really don't like Guthrie Govan's music. Again...I don't get anything from it. I appreciate the talent. Guy is amazing and I wish I had a pinkie's worth of his chops....lol...but musically he just doesn't do it for me.
Having said all that, there are, again in my opinion, many examples of great technical players, who songs are not written or arranged very well and really kind of just serve as a vehicle for their technique. A perfectly valid thing to do, but not something I'm very interested in. And I would argue by the fairly limited appeal said artists "technical" music tends to have amongst the greater population, a lot of people feel that way. Again...I'm not saying "better". There is no better in music. But the ability to write catchy melodic music that has very clever arrangements is a thing. It's a skill, and not everyone is great at it.
@@doublestrokerollif you make an argument from mass appeal then pop is the most soulful music of all
Thousands of people singing your song back to you - awesome!
Rick Beato lovingly busting into your theme tune - life affirming gratification.
I've loved Rick's channel for ages. Can't wait for the interview.
I find Rick completely and utterly absorbing to watch, the interview should be really interesting. Thank you Justin! 😁 ♥️
As fascinating as Rick is on all things music, what is the most impressive thing to watch is what he's done with his son Dylan. That is the most perfect pitch I have ever seen or heard. If you haven't seen him demonstrate his perfect pitch, go and watch it before you reply to this comment. Rick will play these incredibly complex chords on the piano and Dylan nails it every single time. He was immersed in complex, high information music since he was born. Literally. Like I said, the most amazing thing Rick has ever accomplished. In my opinion. He may disagree
I would love to see a chat between yourself and Dan, talking about each others experiences leading up to and being part of the Darkness and how you managed to avoid the battling siblings in a band troupe or if indeed there is some bitter under lying resentments that can be captured in a live chat environment 😆
Yes. Dan is awesome. Talk about Stone Gods. Great band!
Wow Justin it's great your theme is getting the thumbs up from Rick Beato. Praise indeed.
Keep an eye out for the premiere during the week! In the mean time I'm doing some cool interactive stuff with my patrons this week, you can check out what we're up to here: www.patreon.com/jushawk (my private livestream podcast is tomorrow at 9pm GMT as per usual)
Not going to lie. You, Pat etc seem like the more 'grounded' not schmuck type of people on TH-cam. Beato seems to be the person in the 80s to promise gold mountains and uses words like " industry ". But hey, I'm a very judgemental person. It is cool to see him appreciate you and have an in depth talk about theory
Hooray for cool interactive patron stuff ❤️
I have found myself singing this out loud many times , it really is quite infectious. Glad I am not the only person. Thanks Justin 🎸
Thank you so much for this video! I can't wait to change my guitar strings as I retuned it after so long without playing it (trying to get your theme tune) and the first string burst💥🤦♀️. Thank you also for making me return to a hobby that I have always loved.😘
I can't wait to see the full interview with Rick Beato too, the part you have posted left us wanting to see more!!!🤩🤩🤩
You must interview Louis Cole.
Looking forward to the full episode! @RickBeato is the gold standard of music theory and analysis (and a very cool guy).
Oh man ... two of my favourite people in the same video! Talking!! TO EACH OTHER!!! Looking so forward to that!! 😍🥰
Rick's a joy. Protect him at all costs.
From what?
@@DaveTaste ISIS?
@@DaveTaste TH-cam of course
I haven't been this excited about watching something in a LONG time, so thank you for that! Honest, watching you two beam at each other had me smiling like a loony to the point of a solitary tear! In truth, I've been here from the theme tune"s inception, and the first thing I said to my partner was, "I really hope Justin gets a Beato interview one day."
WELL YOU'VE ONLY BALLY WELL GONE AND DONE IT!
Thanks again, squire. Truly.
One of the things I love about both Rick and you is your generosity. You both share far more about what musicians do and how they do it than you need to do, and you make the rest of us the better for it. A few weeks ago I shared your TH-cam channel with a friend who turned me onto Rick's channel, and I expect he is going to appreciate my recommendation as much as I do his. You are both gems.
It’s interesting and entertaining to watch this. I enjoyed music from The Darkness as a band. But getting a glimpse of Justin as a person is something I wouldn’t have gotten growing up because there just wasn’t a platform for it. Really cool.
What a great video, so insightful.... it went over my head but it was still interesting 😁
Oh, this is such a tease!!! Really looking forward to the full two hours. Thank you Justin & Rick ❤
I am so glad that both of you have collaborated.
I see Rick in my feed, I click.
I see you Justin, and it's the same.
Rick's mind is like a steel trap for music theory. Catches everything and nothing escapes. Can't wait for the full video.
Cool stuff.
He makes me want to learn the theory.(something I have purposefully avoided)
Truth hurts so good!
My guitar playing has improved because of Rick B. Thanks for featuring him in your channel.
I’d love to see a long format interview with your other fellow members of The Darkness. I’ve read articles with Dan and Frankie but an interview between you guys talking shop or where you’re going as a band would be fascinating. Maybe a Mr. Roger Taylor would come on the show?
Always a good time. Keep up the good work.
I'm certainly gonna tune into that interview. It's bound to be mega interesting.
I am thrilled about this. Two of my absolute favorite creators of any genre just having a chat...can't wait.
You and Rick and our You Tube visits mean so much. Thanks to you both!
I'm really happy to see you've collaborated with Rick; he's been a YT favorite of mine for years and you're not to bad yourself lol
The respect bouncing between the two of you was so apparent, and so deserved!
Justin, your theme tune always reminds me of a a phrase from a medieval piece, yet when heard as chords they do indeed sound Spanish. If Rick Beato flatters you, pin it on, stick your chest out and strut about proudly! 😎🤩
Hi Love Rick Beato! So truthful, humble, knowledgeable, funny, musically talented. He has a great channel!
For me, that intro/outro initially made me laugh, seemed super random and something he made up on the spot... and now it's my favorite part of these videos. It's just brilliant, both the composition and JH's commitment to it.
Hi Justin. I'm so delighted you're a fan of the mighty Mr. Beato. I've been watching him for years and just about 95% of what he says sails so far above my head that it might as well be on Mars, but that doesn't detract one iota from the sheer delight of listening to someone talking effortlessly and with knowledge about songs that I love.
Can’t wait to see the whole thing
I LOVE that you two got together for a chat!
The algorithms collide! Been a RB subscriber for quite some time and his music knowledge is expansive, most of all he’s genial, genuine and good for the musical soul. The musical ear he has is not in everyone’s gift and he is encouraging to musicians whatever their level; listener to seasoned sessioneer.
"well thats it for now"... Never has a show i was watching wanted me to see the episode like this. Thanks for your passion in music.
I love when Rick beato does his Spotify top 10 Countdown because you see him just pick up the guitar and play every song right from the jump without ever hearing it. I know he likes to shrug that off and say everybody should be able to do it. But he honestly is either way too modest or doesn't know his talent. Can't wait for the full interview
'Ere, I was indeed wondering what was going on with the aforementioned Rick Beato chat. I'm going to save watching it until a weekend, and have it as my evening treat! Thanks Mr. Justin.
Looks like this is going to be a lot of fun!
What are luxury you had to have an interview with Mr. BEATO. You're such a genuine person and it was obvious you're CHUFFED when Mr BEATO not only knew your theme
song, and played it, but knew the exact chords which you were unsure off . I'm looking for to the full interview.Thank you for being...you....anf a part of my musical journey ...as well as an inspiration for me to carry on playing. Respect, brother.
Love to see some long form interviews with some of your friends in the industry!
I think you're right, Creepy Clips. Start out the long form interviews w/ friends in the industry so that there's a level of comfort there, hopefully, right from the beginning.
I was about five and a half minutes in, and realized that my face had been stuck in a smile the whole time.
Can't wait to hear the interview.
I love Rick's and your channel for the same reason.
It's Music Appreciation 101. Listening with intention. You guys rock.
Lovely
Thank you Justin! This is brilliant 👍 Finally you and Rick together!! Made my day! Can't wait to see the full interview. Hope you all can do an episode on Rick's channel of "What makes this song great" and do an actual Darkness song.
Rick is super cool and does great interviews . Both of you are good 🙂
Awesome! Beato’s knowledge of music theory is phenomenal. I’d kill to understand 10% of what he knows
Fantastic. Two of the coolest fellas around. I'm lucky enough to have tickets to see Rick Beat's live show in London in March.
Looking forward to it. Surely you can get Brian May in for a chat (may need to get Rufus to pull a few strings 😂).
Pitting your ear for, that'll do, against Rick's, here's why it's great and your adoration of the praise, while remaining you.
Just reminds me of how awesome and honest you are.
Man, I fucking love a positive comments section. 🙌🤘
It was fun to see you two smiling at each other the entire chat ...what a bromance ...made for a wonderfully entertaining vid :)
It would be thrilling to see you interview and talk to musician friends and colleagues in future content.
I'm so proud of myself and the TH-cam algorithm that got me long ago to both you and Rick Beato.
I AM BEYOND EXCITED FOR THIS!!!! RICK IS A MUSICAL G.O.A.T GENIUS! 🤘🤘🤘
I love @RickBeato and I do think he is great at explaining theory, etc. and he also has a great ear. But there's a long chat here about the 1st chord of the theme being half diminished when it's clearly a diminished 7th run down. And even you, Justin, explain the origins of that phrase coming from a line containing 4 notes which are 3 semitones apart from each other (a diminished 7th arpeggio, not a half diminished arpeggio). I don't wish to come across like a know-it-all, angry musician shouting my opinions at the internet; just wanted to point out that what Rick is explaining isn't correct... Please let let me know if I'm wrong..! Both of you have great channels, by the way! And thanks for all the brilliant insights
Rick is one of the most important people in music at the moment, Millions of people are learning about the nuts and bolts of "songs" and how to construct them, how to approach music at all levels from watching him do his stuff. He's made me a better (amateur) songwriter and producer than I would ever have dreamed possible and I'm sure that better musicians than me will take his knowledge a lot further than I could.
Clearly not. I mean the person that wrote the theme tune said that he doesn't know a B diminished from an F# augmented - but he wrote it regardless. So clearly the name is immaterial and using the name is not as important as you're suggesting. It's like the over analysis of Beatles songs. Paul did many or all of their songs by strumming on a guitar and singing over the top or poking away at the piano. Both until he got something he liked the sound of. Maybe George Martin threw in some of his knowledge. You can see in one of the Get Back videos Harrison asking an actual musician who turned up (George Benson) what a particular chord they were using is - and he tells them, but it was obviously not that important to the success of the beatles was it? If you play a triad and move each note up or down you're going to find the minors, suspended chords, the diminished and augmented chords etc and hear the sound they make. Or you can stack thirds, play 2 triads together. If you're interested in music you can learn it but it's really peripheral. In fact it's the least important aspect, developing an ear is more important and being able to imagine music in your head and then play that on the instrument. I mean no jazz musician who is improvising over changes is thinking "I'm going to play a flattened 5th" because by the time you've had that thought you've missed the beat. You'll note how many interviews Beato has had with big artists who he's telling them they used a flat 5 augmented suspended add 9 whatever and they just stare at him blankly.
@@michael1 So you type all that about that one aspect of what he can do that you don't see the value in and therefor he has no effect on anything at all. I'd be the first to agree that ear comes first but all that knowledge he has on the subject can only be more tools at hand. Every different angle you look at music from is a new and inspiring perspective and leads to deeper understanding and the only reason I can see for the point you're making is that you resent theory because you don't get it.
@@direnova6284 I guess if the only reason you can see is wrong then you're not as smart as you hoped.
@@michael1 Theory is a tool to help you master your craft faster! Why do you think Jazz musicians (or many of the great musicians) spend endless time with scales, arpegios, chord studies .... until it is ingraind in their head so they don't have to think any more, just create music?
@@rogerforsman5064 I think they do it primarily because they make a mistake of believing that knowing a scale will tell them what notes they can or can't play. Then they switch to arpeggios when they note that often playing a note that's in the scale doesn't work - again it's all struggling to understand the flawed idea "theory" will tell them what notes they should or shouldn't be playing. By the time they've learnt enough to realise that's not how music works they've done all that stuff regardless that it's not as helpful as you appear to have mistakenly believed. At that point you're left with 12 notes and you can play any of them over anything. The trick is deciding what noise you want to make before you play. Typically when people go to theory it's because they have some aesthetic notion of how they want their solo to sound - like they want the notes to "fit" and the mistake the scale and arpeggio approach was suggesting some notes are "wrong" and others are "right", really though the idea the player is playing in tune and notes that "fit" has more to do with the timing of the so-called "wrong" notes and "right" notes. Aside from the fact that all that earlier practise was just a lot of "playing notes" - which is useful in itself because you're getting better at playing notes - it's wasted time in terms of "what notes should I play?" leading towards the realisation that you can play anything - any note, over any chord in any sequence. Oops though that still doesn't tell you what you should play. If you're looking for that, yes, you can learn to play what other people have played before or scales, arpeggios - and you can get some "wrong" notes included by adding techniques like "approach notes" which your hypothetical great musician isn't playing because he only plays scales or arpeggios. Maybe he's not that great after all eh? So I'd suggest that most musicians are learning these things because they aren't great. They do it just like when the would-be rock musician starts learning saying "you can play anything" would just leave him bewildered by an excess of choice and without a well enough developed ear to be able to think "I listened to this Black Sabbath album and I want to make the noises they are" - if he had perfect pitch or a lot of patience he could just listen and then find those noises. But, equally you can show him some root and fifth chords and a scale you call pentatonic or blues and he takes in that information as "this are the notes I can play" - but that's not expanding his mind - that's limiting his mind until he's sufficiently developed as a musician to not need the artificial restriction of a scale. Look at how many rock-based tutorials are "how to break out of scale boxes" - trying to undo the damage so to speak. Of course many a musician may well create a lot of great songs, maybe even have a big rock star career without ever developing as a musician beyond these scale shapes - but it's a big mistake to believe that is what you need to learn to play and most definitely a mistake to believe this is part of being a great musician.
Yes, please! Long-form interviews are the best!
Hey Justin! I'm saying a resounding YES to the long-form interviews. Please do. That would be interesting.
WOW!!! My feelings exactly!! Justin, I started following your channel on the video recommendation of, one Tom Bukovac, noted first call Nashville session musician (and friend of Rick Beato). He commented on his channel "501chorusecho" that he enjoyed your videos so, as a dedicated "Homeskooler" I took his sage advice and starting watching your videos! Isn't the music version of the circle of life a beautiful thing!! I can't wait to watch your video with Rick! I've been following him for a long time, have his Beato Book and am hoping that some small grains of music theory penetrate my thick skull!! Thank you for doing what you do and being who you are Justin!! Keep Riding!!
After all this time, hearing Rick and Justin pick apart the theme, I finally realize what it reminds me of!!! The All in the Family theme song. “Gee, our old LaSalle ran greaaaaaaaat!”
🎼Mister we could use a man like Justin Hawkins rides again🎶
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@@OnlyUkeThatMatters Haha yes!!
For me, it reminds me of the chorus to Phantom of the Opera.
@@spritebuster685 Haha yes!!!! And of course we all know ALW lifted the main theme for Phantom from Pink Floyd’s Echoes…
Rick is a youtube savior for musicians everywhere. Justin you are so good as well..a breath of fresh air.
Got to be the greatest musical accolade hasn't it!? Stuff your Brit/Grammy Awards. You've been Beato'd. Only an extremely, select and privileged group can say they've been Beato'd. Congratulations Justin 👏🏻👍🏻👍🏻👏🏻
Justin, your clips are a joy. Even if I'm not always interested in the topic of the moment I still enjoy hearing you talk about it. It's like hanging out with a good friend. I appreciate you. Cheers!
This pretty much made me smile through its entirety. Both great musicians but humble people.
Looking forward to watching the full thing after work!
Great producers like Rick are pivotal to making any artist take that next step in elevating their sound. As we saw from this video, they can explain it to you what you did with your own composition lol and how you can improve it further. Rick's knowledge of music is astounding.
My old man put me onto Beato a few years back and he's amazing, and to see you on the back foot for a change and fanboy-ing is class/humbling I cannot wait for this to come out 💪 top work again Justin 💪👍
I’m chuffed you and The Darkness are in the ascendant again, doing this (rather wonderful) podcast was a genius move and getting the likes of Mr Beato on is a boon too! May you continue to enjoy your recent successes Justin, and grow this channel 👍🏻
Been waiting for you two to get together. Brilliant. Can't wait to see the whole thing.
Justin! Please, for the love of Juan Martín check out Rodrigo Y Gabriella! Hanuman is probably their biggest song. You’ll love it, I promise!
@CackityCack 😳 I haven’t seen that & didn’t know it was a thing, but now I do, I NEED to see it ASAP! 😂 thanks! 🥰
What a delightful discussion. Can't wait for the interview to "drop" as you so modernly put it.
I like Rick a lot, but I'm gonna have to be that guy...the melody of your theme is a dim7, not half dim. Ps- Hi from your home town sir!
You both have a whimsical sense of humor. I can’t wait for the post, drop, I mean release.
Gotta interview Pat Finnerty next
He's busy being on hold with the IRS.
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@@feebypeels2883 🤣🤣🤣
This made me smile. Thank you
Looking forward to your chat with Rick Beato! He's a genius, and so are you.
I'm so excited to see the two of you in a long convo! Thank you so much!
Pleasant exchange between gentlemen! I'm looking forward to enjoying the entire conversation.
I love you both and I'm so happy you collaborated finally.
rick beato is brilliant. have always watched his videos.