@@aion5386 calm down, everyone and their mother are doing Reddit Stories nowadays. Shayne/Smosh are not the only one, nor do they take offense to someone else doing this format.
With the tomato essence one: I only noticed this because smosh did the same story but you missed the detail of their age difference being 20 and 26, yet theyve been dating for three years... I think that was very important context
Heres the thing. She was very right to be worried and I'm actually a bit disappointed in how they addressed it. Her upset was that he was LYING, not that he wasn't doing the thing. Anyone that is openly excited about lying to you is a big red flag.
Not to mention, when Miles tries to gender swap it, he envisions her doing all the cooking and cleaning of the house entirely. That's NOT what she said. She said he cooks and takes care of the kitchen and she does the rest of the chores for the house. If she was doing the cooking and he was doing all the cleaning, we'd still think the cook shouldn't lie about what they're serving!
@@TM.BECK14they’re not math boys. I think they just didn’t realize while reading it. They also aren’t Reddit readers, so some trends and wordings that are niche they may not have picked up on…
Pasta story is NOT even about the pasta. It’s about the bf being weird and dishonest and making fun of her. There wouldn’t be an issue if they just communicated like adults
Miles talking about not being able to listen to music during a depressive state because he will focus on his own thoughts is so relatable! My watch later on TH-cam is always packed full of people talking so I can focus on it when I'm having a tough time.
@@mythologigi right? I thought I was in the small minority of people who find music stressful to listen to when I'm already stressed. I experience music so intensely that it just overwhelms me when I'm anxious.
Keith saying it's hard to explain to someone when a food tastes like yellow made me think it'd be so fascinating to hear Keith mention when a food tastes like a color in Eat the Menu. His descriptions of food are always so vivid, I think sharing moments when the color happens (if it happens during ETM) would help equate the color to the rest of the description he's given and help viewers understand.
Ollie from the Korean Englishman and Jolly is also very good at describing how food taste. Keith has done a couple videos with him. And Ollie and Josh have been on the pod.
I will defend pasta sauce girl with my whole life. I have so many sensory issues with food and do basically the same thing with chips and salsa (just dip the chip in to get the taste without the chunkiness of the salsa). Also, if the bf really did just fake it bc he doesn’t want to do the extra effort, just DONT TELL HER. If she didn’t notice, just don’t say anything or bring it up later NICELY. He’s such a weirdo for taunting her like that. Also, the age difference makes it SO much worse
I thought I was the only salsa one. People have made so much fun of me over the years about my texture thing but it’s a truth to me. I learned how to eat many foods by chopping them really small so I could taste the taste without having to deal with the texture. I don’t like big pieces of anything even if I love the taste.
If I’m not mistaken, pasta girl was covered by ok storytime. They did a deeper dive into relevant comments and/or updates, and the boyfriend turns out to be a totally controlling groomer. And like even without that knowledge, and ignoring opinions on her family/seemingly silly food preference, her partner could’ve have easily not agreed. Instead he just lied and used it for a gotcha moment. I couldn’t Drink tap water unless I filled and emptied the cup 3x. If i wasn’t paying attention and miscounted or didnt do the right amount each time, I had to set the empty cup down, reset, and start again. I had a partner who would try to do stuff like this with me when he’d get me water, voluntarily. I could tell (mostly because of the temperature, I think) and I’d have to go do it myself, anyway. He was also an abusive narcissist who cheated on me with a minor and ended up in jail for blackmailing minors. I may be mixing up Reddit stories-because I listen to them a lot while working or driving-but, I remembered this story because resonated. That girl was young and naive which is exactly what her ex (I believe) wanted.
OCD is debilitating when it goes undiagnosed/untreated. It’s truly exhausting always getting these thoughts that you know are illogical and not yourself. But then your brain comes up with these ways to try to control the thoughts and you’re bound to the habits over the thoughts and it just loops and loops. I finally started ERP and I wish I had it in my life ten years ago. So helpful. What people don’t seem to know that compulsions aren’t always external either. It’s not always hand washing and light switches etc. it’s literally internal mantras and thought-based habits that just take up so much of your time and capacity to function.
Thank you for explaining this in that way. My sibling has OCD but it hasn’t been treated, just diagnosed and has, amongst others, compulsions with numbers- i.e these numbers are good and these are bad, and I think possibly some are neutral. In particular 4 is the worst, so we skip episodes of tv if it’s episode 4, nothing can be bought or eaten in a group of 4. I thought when I lived there that I was helping by making sure to avoid the numbers and do whatever else to make them comfortable. I looked up ERP now and also found MCT, maybe it’ll be able to help them feel better 😊
12:36 oh my absolute god. Lud told this story on his podcast and turns out the movie he mentioned is really really messed up & that’s why Kirsten reacted like that. She thought he was a psychopath. Lmao.
Okay two things: 1) The age gap difference is insane and I can’t believe they didn’t either bring it up or notice it! A seventeen year old isn’t even done with high school but a 23 year old is finished with college 🤢 2) Yeah the pasta girl had a ridiculous way of eating it but instead of communicating and telling her that he wasn’t going to do it, he just decided to lie to her for three years. It would’ve been so simple to tell her that if she wants the noodles that way then she would have to do it herself.
Agreed. I think they are focusing on the weirdness of the food, and not the underlying respect and trust in a relationship. (And the inappropriate age gap). He chose to take on the chore of cooking, knowing he had no intentions of cooking the food the way she asked, and then made fun of her. It’s about having the respect to either be honest and say that he wasn’t going to cook pasta that way or cook food the way he knew she preferred. Not keep it as a joke to poke fun at her for years.
this is what I came to the comments to point out, to me that really changes the vibes and power dynamics of the whole relationship in a really creepy way
As an audio engineer who mostly records and mixes, i found the part about listening to the music vs the lyrics very interesting and i think you guys said it quite well. There is a significant difference in the whole production process between genres and its nice to see that people who aren't working in sound also notice this. I really enjoyed this episode
With the movies helping I saw Iron Man 3 when it came out and saw Tony's panic attacks and felt very seen. I didn't understand that I had anxiety when that movie came out. I didn't know I had PTSD as well and that's what he was going through. It's one of my favorite Marvel movies because of that and I know a lot of people don't enjoy it. It does have a special place in my heart though because of that reason. Media really does help people feel seen.
Oh iron man 3 is easily my favorite marvel movie for this same reason. Like seeing my (problematic lol) fave experiencing the world like I do? Instant yes.
I kinda hate how when the guys say something everyone knows they just nod in agreement like yes yes of course very smart, and if Raine does it they're like DUHHHHH RAINEEEEEE. I saw it happen on Perfect Person also
They also totally discredit her all the time, even when she turns out to be right. Like when they were talking about the printing press and she said some fact about the oldest printed book that they simply just didn't believe.
PLEASE PLEASE MAKE A “TRY GUYS TRY MUSIC THERAPY” VIDEO As a music therapist (MT-BC) so much of what you’re talking about in this podcast is related to music therapy theory and how we’re able to use music as a therapeutic tool to treat conditions LIKE OCD! I know there are reputable MT’s in LA. PLEASE! It would be such a great way to advocate for our field!
Zack, YOU made me feel seen. I was diagnosed and medicated for OCD in high school, finally after years of struggling. I'm now 36 and my OCD doesn't manifest in the ways it used to, but it still very much there. I struggled with even writing "my OCD", but yet I'm fully aware of tics and flexes I almost constantly do, my fingernails and skin constantly remind me of my dermatillomania. My fingers and toes are probably going to get arthritis from the constant flex-popping I have to do. When you talked about the way it has changed made me feel seen. So thank you (You asked them, but I also don't hear the lyrics first. I can listen to it 5 times in a row, and each time sounds differently because I catch a different part, whether it's a different instrument each time, or the hook hook on replay #4, and then the lyrics last. Maybe it's my music playing throughout my life, my suspected autism, idk, but sometimes I don't even recognize the lyrics because I'm too hyperfocused on another aspect of the track.
First guy is an asshole. First off the age difference (they’ve been dating 3 years so she was 17 and he was 23?? 😒). Second off the way he went about telling her was a total a-hole move. Third off… if you volunteer/insist on cooking for someone else, you should make it the way someone wants it to be made if you know about their preferences. 😑 Fourth off… him insisting on doing all the dish cleaning and prepping means he was trying to cover up his not rinsing the noodles and with all this together makes it sound like he wants control…
RE: Advice that'll go for Miles: You can create an entire map with directions and transit as well within Maps. This is really helpful for Euro tripping because of the public transport being so robust!
i do the same thing as keith, playing music through my body constantly!! i often do it by clicking/gritting my teeth, but then i get headaches - so i’ve been trying more muscles and fingers/toes!
even ignoring the age gaps & everything else and continuing miles's line of thinking about couples making fun of each other's isms, it could maybe be fine if the bf does it one time and instantly reveals it in a fun jokey way after one bite, but doing it for a long period of time w that tone?? nah bro
I loved the conversation about finger tapping. I have definitely done the piano keys playing music in my head, but something I have always done for years is typing out words I'm seeing, hearing, or saying. Ever since 3rd grade keyboarding class. I feel so seen that I'm not the only one tapping out the world around me.
I saw a movie as a child that made me realize I might be autistic. My mom quickly shot that down. Unfortunately the stigma associated with it was so bad and she wasn't informed enough to accept my concerns. She was a wonderful woman, but being in the South, you just kind of didn't talk about it. Also, I have synesthesia! I did many of the things Keith does as a teen and still do now. I see color with music, sounds and tastes.
11:07 I’ve recently started heavy binge watching The Yard and knowing Zach and Lud are friendly has stirred something in me, I NEED some sort crossover event here 👀
OKAY 💀 the fact that he forgot the movie Ludwig said that he and his friend watch every year together was THE VIRGIN SUICIDES. He said it having no idea what it was about and that is why Kirsten Dunst was confused and probably concerned… 😂
thank you for speaking about your OCD zach. as someone who went undiagnosed for a long time after suffering from debilitating OCD my entire life, i found out in a similar way -- a radiolab episode about thoughts did a segment on OCD and the nature of intrusive thoughts and cyclical thinking, and i had to pull my car over and sob because they had put a name to what i had been experiencing as long as i could remember. i called my mom and told her i thought i had OCD and within a week i'd been diagnosed and prescribed medication that saved my life. so many people don't know what OCD can actually feel and look like and live their whole lives never knowing that treatment is possible. talking about it and sharing our stories can save lives.
The fact that the strange pasta lady didn’t notice she was eating her boyfriend’s normally made pasta makes me think her father was lying to her too lol
Keith talking about the "music in his head" and how he flexes different muscles and moves his fingers sounds so much like my husband. I see him moving his fingers and I'll hear him humming or singing to himself.
They said if she wanted the pasta made the specific way she wants she should make it herself, but she specifically said that he took over all cooking related tasks and she was assigned the rest of the chores, so he did that with the intention of never doing it her way, when she may have been totally willing to make it herself but he didnt let her. Not to mention the age gap, updates, etc
“[Zach & Keith] look like the adult version of *do you have games on your phone?*” was one of the roasts during the funeral of the try guys and man this episode really emBODIED that
I have synesthesia! I associate words, letters, songs, and music with colors! And what's fun is I'm bilingual (ish - Korean and English), and each language has different colors for their language 😊
@@megankidd4671 I could! I remember once when I was notating some sheet music for violin, I decided to use color pencils to note when to get louder or softer depending on the dynamic markings ☺️
I loove the way keith said that for some people the lyrics are an instrument!! it finally clicked why I don't learn hozier's lyrics as fast as I do other pop songs
I have had synesthesia my entire life and I totally lit up when Keith started talking about it. It isn't something that is talked about very often so it just made my whole day. 🎉
I don't know if it's because I studied music for 15 years, or if it's because I'm neurodivergent, but I identified so much with the musical stims and echolalia they discussed- so neat!
Don't count on walking into top restaurants in Japan without a reservation! All those Bib Gourmand places are going to be booked. I was there in the off season this year, and we saw people turned away from restaurants at opening time on an almost daily basis because restaurants were booked for the whole night. A lot of Japanese restaurants serve a certain number of people a day and they will not accommodate walk-ins even if they have empty tables. You're not going to go hungry since there's loads of food, but if you have your eye on top spots, plan ahead.
I have synesthesia. It is in the form of I see numbers in different colors in my head. Example: 1 is white, 3 is blue, 5 is red, 7 is yellow.... I know that Billie Eilish has mentioned having it as well in interviews before. She sees days of the week in different colors.
To jump onto the google maps marking - my cousin actually marks every restaurant/bar etc someone’s told him about, and in the “note” section on that mark he writes the name of whoever told him, and what they recommended he should try. Then he A- knows what to get when he goes to that spot and B-can text people and thank them for the recommendation!
my spaghetti take: I agree with Rainey that even though OP’s noodle preferences are a little silly, what her boyfriend did was a small betrayal or trust. especially because he was kind of spiteful or malicious about it. it’s one thing to try to push your partner out of their comfort zone and ask them to try something new or be like “hey I forgot to rinse your noodles. try it and tell me what you think. if you don’t like it I’ll fix it” or even have her eat them and be like “hey so I didn’t rinse your noodles. are they okay? I’ll rinse them if not.” but to laugh at your partner and want them to feel foolish for not realizing you tricked them is pretty mean spirited. it’s not the worst thing in the world. but I can see how it might feel kind of belittling
You know, maybe this is a hot take but the tomato essence lady’s sauce thing sounds almost like the food based obsessive compulsions I often have. Like maybe she hates the flavor of the sauce but for an illogical obsessive reason needs to know the pasta has once had sauce. Not crazier than mine, it would explain the anxiety she seems to be having about it but obviously I don’t know. In that scenario though, it’s pretty fucked up for him to act like she’s being silly. On the other hand, she might be being silly.
It's really strange that they just had a really affirming talk about their experiences with neurodiversity and various brain quirks, and then RIGHT after mocked and made fun of a person that had a different brain quirk from them. They completely missed the point of that story -- it wasn't about how OP should or shouldn't like their food a certain way but how their BF was lying to them for years about a whole bunch of stuff.
11:08 squeex made a tiktok about this 😭 the movie ludwig mentioned was the virgin suicides. ludwig and squeex then watched it after and realized they f'ed up bc kirsten dunst kills herself in the movie 😭
14:00 I do this flexing thing too! It’s not scales but it’s a little tune, I also will repeat certain phrases that I’m reading on signs and turning into a tune
keith i do the same thing with the sounds out in the world, in my head i always here a lil gameshow type voice that goes "Make...That...Sooouuunnd" its quite entertaining-
i also have diagnosed ocd and i figured out i have it in a very similar way to zach. i was watching grey’s anatomy (the season that bailey has ocd) and i was like…. hmmmmm that’s a little too close to home 😭
the thing keith does (mimicking weird sounds in the moment) is called echolalia . i do the same thing, its a common trait/symptom of autism (which i am autistic) as well as other neurodivergencies. its nice to hear other people talking about just the weird random thing us neurodivergent people do. its definitely an undescribable weird feeling when you feel like you just have to mimic the sound lol sometimes i do it even under my breath or just make my lips form the word/sound if im trying to mask or just.. really not an appropriate time for mimicking but i still really need to do it lol. im sneaky like that ;) lol (also my favorite thing to mimic is my cats Meows. i cant NOT meow back at him and try to mimic his exact meow sound that he made (he is very vocal and has lots of different meows... this just leads to me mimicking him and then he ends up meowing BACK at me mimicking HIM and we have like a whole half hour long conversation where i have no idea what im actualy saying as im speaking in 'cat') ;) keith loves cats, i wonder if he has a similar experience lol. cat meows are so contagious.
Keith and I have the same brain. He's said before that he counts things, like when filling up water, he counts up or backwards. Now with the playing scales by flexing different muscles, I've done this my whole life! crazy
zach and i do the EXACT same toe tapping OCD thing!!! i also perceive my OCD as rly in the background but this was a strong reminder that she is alive n kicking
yall should look up “stimming”! its not only a thing that autistic people do, but autistic people can sometimes do them often or repetitively (difference between this and ocd is that its not distressing its emotionally soothing)
it's always so interesting to hear people talk about how lyrics come second to them when listening to music. i listen to music primarily through lyric videos on youtube. very rarely can i fully enjoy a song until i read the lyrics, it's like 70% lyrics to 30% music for me.
Hey y'all, love the Reddit stories stuff! But if you're going to be giving your opinions on these stories, it's important to do what other channels do and actually do a deep dive on the story. Look into the comments/updates/other posts and see the full story. Because some pretty important details as others pointed out were missed.
Ok but once Miles got to the specifics, the google maps advice is actually really good. Being able to use custom icons/emojis for each save category is going to be life changing for us!!! 🤩
Idea for a twist of eat the menu, paint the menu. Keith takes the best from each menu and paints the colors he feels connected to while eating like in an abstract form. Then auction off paintings for charities or use as set pieces or office decor
Am I the only one living for these red light segments of the podcast consisting of Keith’s constant need for more diamonds to advance the storyline of the naughty app? 🤣
“me and my little neurodivergent buddies, i’m gaining them” SO real! miles’ undiagnosed adhd says hello
hehehe yesss bird of a feather podcast together :)
lmaooo i'm about to do my assessment in a few weeks
I thought I got a Smosh notification for a second lol
same, I refreshed the smosh pit page like "i know i got a notification, did they private the video?" lmao
i was like “it’s not saturday already is it ?”
I’d love a surprise Smosh Reddit stories
Just shows how bad the tryguys are doing for them having to copy a succesful channel
@@aion5386 calm down, everyone and their mother are doing Reddit Stories nowadays. Shayne/Smosh are not the only one, nor do they take offense to someone else doing this format.
Miles' advice about finding someone with the same sensitivity levels as you is SO SPOT ON. Not only for the pasta couple but also just in general.
With the tomato essence one: I only noticed this because smosh did the same story but you missed the detail of their age difference being 20 and 26, yet theyve been dating for three years... I think that was very important context
Yeah they missed a couple big details like the bf said he was lying the whole time and he’s never made it her way which also fully changes it.
@@emmaliehandley9090 Yeah exactly. Plus if you read the updates for the post it turns out the bf was lying about a lot (his job and he was cheating)
Heres the thing. She was very right to be worried and I'm actually a bit disappointed in how they addressed it. Her upset was that he was LYING, not that he wasn't doing the thing. Anyone that is openly excited about lying to you is a big red flag.
Not to mention, when Miles tries to gender swap it, he envisions her doing all the cooking and cleaning of the house entirely. That's NOT what she said. She said he cooks and takes care of the kitchen and she does the rest of the chores for the house. If she was doing the cooking and he was doing all the cleaning, we'd still think the cook shouldn't lie about what they're serving!
Yes!! And the guys said that he was taking charge - seems like she didn’t really have a say in it
Keith in his iPad kid era asking to have the phone to play his p*rn game is so funny
she’s 20 and her boyfriend is 26? they’ve been dating for 3 years? was he 23 dating a 17 year old???
Yup 🙃
I came to the comments to see if anyone else said something 😂
Yeah kinda disappointing they completely glossed over that part (and didn't include a lot of other important details)
Came here to say this, thank you🚨🚨
@@TM.BECK14they’re not math boys. I think they just didn’t realize while reading it. They also aren’t Reddit readers, so some trends and wordings that are niche they may not have picked up on…
Keith breaking down some echolalia and synesthesia feels like a win for the neurodiverse 😅
I need them to do a deep dive video on this 🤣
Pasta story is NOT even about the pasta. It’s about the bf being weird and dishonest and making fun of her. There wouldn’t be an issue if they just communicated like adults
LALA ITS NOT ABOUT THE PASTA /reference
Miles talking about not being able to listen to music during a depressive state because he will focus on his own thoughts is so relatable! My watch later on TH-cam is always packed full of people talking so I can focus on it when I'm having a tough time.
I always know I’m feeling better when I listen to music instead of putting on videos for background
So relatable! I need something to focus on to keep my thoughts from racing and going down the depression spiral
@@mythologigi right? I thought I was in the small minority of people who find music stressful to listen to when I'm already stressed. I experience music so intensely that it just overwhelms me when I'm anxious.
Me too! My friend recently asked me what songs/artists I listen to when down and I was like…literally none. He fully didn’t understand.
I relate hard to this! I need to hear people talking to distract my brain going into a spin
Keith saying it's hard to explain to someone when a food tastes like yellow made me think it'd be so fascinating to hear Keith mention when a food tastes like a color in Eat the Menu. His descriptions of food are always so vivid, I think sharing moments when the color happens (if it happens during ETM) would help equate the color to the rest of the description he's given and help viewers understand.
Ollie from the Korean Englishman and Jolly is also very good at describing how food taste. Keith has done a couple videos with him. And Ollie and Josh have been on the pod.
I will defend pasta sauce girl with my whole life. I have so many sensory issues with food and do basically the same thing with chips and salsa (just dip the chip in to get the taste without the chunkiness of the salsa). Also, if the bf really did just fake it bc he doesn’t want to do the extra effort, just DONT TELL HER. If she didn’t notice, just don’t say anything or bring it up later NICELY. He’s such a weirdo for taunting her like that. Also, the age difference makes it SO much worse
as someone who has arfid i agree
I thought I was the only salsa one. People have made so much fun of me over the years about my texture thing but it’s a truth to me. I learned how to eat many foods by chopping them really small so I could taste the taste without having to deal with the texture. I don’t like big pieces of anything even if I love the taste.
If I’m not mistaken, pasta girl was covered by ok storytime. They did a deeper dive into relevant comments and/or updates, and the boyfriend turns out to be a totally controlling groomer. And like even without that knowledge, and ignoring opinions on her family/seemingly silly food preference, her partner could’ve have easily not agreed. Instead he just lied and used it for a gotcha moment. I couldn’t Drink tap water unless I filled and emptied the cup 3x. If i wasn’t paying attention and miscounted or didnt do the right amount each time, I had to set the empty cup down, reset, and start again. I had a partner who would try to do stuff like this with me when he’d get me water, voluntarily. I could tell (mostly because of the temperature, I think) and I’d have to go do it myself, anyway. He was also an abusive narcissist who cheated on me with a minor and ended up in jail for blackmailing minors. I may be mixing up Reddit stories-because I listen to them a lot while working or driving-but, I remembered this story because resonated. That girl was young and naive which is exactly what her ex (I believe) wanted.
Well, they did start dating when she was 17 and he was 23, so the grooming part doesn't entirely surprise me.
As a speech therapist, Keith describing echolalia is so funny lol and then Zach says "neurodivergent" yuuup🤣
"I simply must play a little bit more, candy crush" has me sobbing laughing at 3am
OCD is debilitating when it goes undiagnosed/untreated. It’s truly exhausting always getting these thoughts that you know are illogical and not yourself. But then your brain comes up with these ways to try to control the thoughts and you’re bound to the habits over the thoughts and it just loops and loops. I finally started ERP and I wish I had it in my life ten years ago. So helpful. What people don’t seem to know that compulsions aren’t always external either. It’s not always hand washing and light switches etc. it’s literally internal mantras and thought-based habits that just take up so much of your time and capacity to function.
Thank you for explaining this in that way. My sibling has OCD but it hasn’t been treated, just diagnosed and has, amongst others, compulsions with numbers- i.e these numbers are good and these are bad, and I think possibly some are neutral. In particular 4 is the worst, so we skip episodes of tv if it’s episode 4, nothing can be bought or eaten in a group of 4. I thought when I lived there that I was helping by making sure to avoid the numbers and do whatever else to make them comfortable. I looked up ERP now and also found MCT, maybe it’ll be able to help them feel better 😊
12:36 oh my absolute god. Lud told this story on his podcast and turns out the movie he mentioned is really really messed up & that’s why Kirsten reacted like that.
She thought he was a psychopath. Lmao.
Okay two things: 1) The age gap difference is insane and I can’t believe they didn’t either bring it up or notice it! A seventeen year old isn’t even done with high school but a 23 year old is finished with college 🤢 2) Yeah the pasta girl had a ridiculous way of eating it but instead of communicating and telling her that he wasn’t going to do it, he just decided to lie to her for three years. It would’ve been so simple to tell her that if she wants the noodles that way then she would have to do it herself.
Agreed. I think they are focusing on the weirdness of the food, and not the underlying respect and trust in a relationship. (And the inappropriate age gap). He chose to take on the chore of cooking, knowing he had no intentions of cooking the food the way she asked, and then made fun of her. It’s about having the respect to either be honest and say that he wasn’t going to cook pasta that way or cook food the way he knew she preferred. Not keep it as a joke to poke fun at her for years.
Agreed
Thank you Zach for talking about OCD! It is such a hard thing to live with and I don’t think people realize how debilitating it is.
I’m shocked they didn’t mention that in the first story the writer was 17 when she first started dating her boyfriend who was 23??
this is what I came to the comments to point out, to me that really changes the vibes and power dynamics of the whole relationship in a really creepy way
Thank you Zac and Keith for sharing about your experiences with neurodiversity! Diagnosed or undiagnosed it helps bring awareness. ❤
going from "my neurodivergent buddies!!!" to "this picky eater is an asshole" is actually deranged
literally
when miles goes on a genuine rant (about the sensitivity levels in a relationship being important) he actually does give great advice lol
You mean Klingsberry Crunch isn't a part of the snack rotation?!
Doesn't need to be, it appears whenever someone needs it.
Its the fact that the bf lied about the pasta even if what ahe wants i don't agree with, i don't like lying even more
Rainie is right
The movie Ludwig said he watched every year is, "The Virgin Suicides" lmaoo
As an audio engineer who mostly records and mixes, i found the part about listening to the music vs the lyrics very interesting and i think you guys said it quite well.
There is a significant difference in the whole production process between genres and its nice to see that people who aren't working in sound also notice this.
I really enjoyed this episode
With the movies helping I saw Iron Man 3 when it came out and saw Tony's panic attacks and felt very seen. I didn't understand that I had anxiety when that movie came out. I didn't know I had PTSD as well and that's what he was going through. It's one of my favorite Marvel movies because of that and I know a lot of people don't enjoy it. It does have a special place in my heart though because of that reason. Media really does help people feel seen.
Oh iron man 3 is easily my favorite marvel movie for this same reason. Like seeing my (problematic lol) fave experiencing the world like I do? Instant yes.
I kinda hate how when the guys say something everyone knows they just nod in agreement like yes yes of course very smart, and if Raine does it they're like DUHHHHH RAINEEEEEE. I saw it happen on Perfect Person also
They also totally discredit her all the time, even when she turns out to be right. Like when they were talking about the printing press and she said some fact about the oldest printed book that they simply just didn't believe.
That’s so sad :(
PLEASE PLEASE MAKE A “TRY GUYS TRY MUSIC THERAPY” VIDEO
As a music therapist (MT-BC) so much of what you’re talking about in this podcast is related to music therapy theory and how we’re able to use music as a therapeutic tool to treat conditions LIKE OCD! I know there are reputable MT’s in LA. PLEASE! It would be such a great way to advocate for our field!
Zack, YOU made me feel seen. I was diagnosed and medicated for OCD in high school, finally after years of struggling. I'm now 36 and my OCD doesn't manifest in the ways it used to, but it still very much there. I struggled with even writing "my OCD", but yet I'm fully aware of tics and flexes I almost constantly do, my fingernails and skin constantly remind me of my dermatillomania. My fingers and toes are probably going to get arthritis from the constant flex-popping I have to do. When you talked about the way it has changed made me feel seen.
So thank you
(You asked them, but I also don't hear the lyrics first. I can listen to it 5 times in a row, and each time sounds differently because I catch a different part, whether it's a different instrument each time, or the hook hook on replay #4, and then the lyrics last. Maybe it's my music playing throughout my life, my suspected autism, idk, but sometimes I don't even recognize the lyrics because I'm too hyperfocused on another aspect of the track.
First guy is an asshole. First off the age difference (they’ve been dating 3 years so she was 17 and he was 23?? 😒). Second off the way he went about telling her was a total a-hole move. Third off… if you volunteer/insist on cooking for someone else, you should make it the way someone wants it to be made if you know about their preferences. 😑 Fourth off… him insisting on doing all the dish cleaning and prepping means he was trying to cover up his not rinsing the noodles and with all this together makes it sound like he wants control…
FIFTH OFF, there’s an update after they broke up and apparently he lied about his job, an allergy to dogs, and had cheated on her multiple times!
@@ourxstorybegins ewwwwww 🤮
RE: Advice that'll go for Miles: You can create an entire map with directions and transit as well within Maps. This is really helpful for Euro tripping because of the public transport being so robust!
i do the same thing as keith, playing music through my body constantly!! i often do it by clicking/gritting my teeth, but then i get headaches - so i’ve been trying more muscles and fingers/toes!
even ignoring the age gaps & everything else and continuing miles's line of thinking about couples making fun of each other's isms, it could maybe be fine if the bf does it one time and instantly reveals it in a fun jokey way after one bite, but doing it for a long period of time w that tone?? nah bro
I loved the conversation about finger tapping. I have definitely done the piano keys playing music in my head, but something I have always done for years is typing out words I'm seeing, hearing, or saying. Ever since 3rd grade keyboarding class. I feel so seen that I'm not the only one tapping out the world around me.
I do this too!!!!
Also ever since third grade and typing class!
Ludwig needed to talk to Zach about which movie to choose to watch every year. 😂 and not have said virgin suicides
The beginning of the ep was so fun! I love learning about the fun ways other peoples brains work!!
I saw a movie as a child that made me realize I might be autistic. My mom quickly shot that down. Unfortunately the stigma associated with it was so bad and she wasn't informed enough to accept my concerns. She was a wonderful woman, but being in the South, you just kind of didn't talk about it.
Also, I have synesthesia! I did many of the things Keith does as a teen and still do now. I see color with music, sounds and tastes.
Meant to add that I am in waiting for an autism assessment!
Reddit story starts at 30:19
Turtles All the Way Down (the novel) is how I finally put it together that I have OCD. Love that Zach felt seen during the movie!!
11:07 I’ve recently started heavy binge watching The Yard and knowing Zach and Lud are friendly has stirred something in me, I NEED some sort crossover event here 👀
OKAY 💀 the fact that he forgot the movie Ludwig said that he and his friend watch every year together was THE VIRGIN SUICIDES. He said it having no idea what it was about and that is why Kirsten Dunst was confused and probably concerned… 😂
Omg🤣🤣🤣🤣
keith is describing different kinds of stimming! different from synesthesia, but still cool that he’s noticing those things about himself!
thank you for speaking about your OCD zach. as someone who went undiagnosed for a long time after suffering from debilitating OCD my entire life, i found out in a similar way -- a radiolab episode about thoughts did a segment on OCD and the nature of intrusive thoughts and cyclical thinking, and i had to pull my car over and sob because they had put a name to what i had been experiencing as long as i could remember. i called my mom and told her i thought i had OCD and within a week i'd been diagnosed and prescribed medication that saved my life. so many people don't know what OCD can actually feel and look like and live their whole lives never knowing that treatment is possible. talking about it and sharing our stories can save lives.
Getting on TH-cam and I see “posted 30 sec ago” it’s a good morning
The fact that the strange pasta lady didn’t notice she was eating her boyfriend’s normally made pasta makes me think her father was lying to her too lol
Keith talking about the "music in his head" and how he flexes different muscles and moves his fingers sounds so much like my husband. I see him moving his fingers and I'll hear him humming or singing to himself.
I’m glad I’m not the only one who doesn’t listen to music because my brain goes off into a spiral and I can’t control it
I just love how much miles makes Keith and Zach laugh 😍😂
They said if she wanted the pasta made the specific way she wants she should make it herself, but she specifically said that he took over all cooking related tasks and she was assigned the rest of the chores, so he did that with the intention of never doing it her way, when she may have been totally willing to make it herself but he didnt let her. Not to mention the age gap, updates, etc
Miles talking about not being able to listen to music in the car is the perfect description of what it is like for me. 😮
You guys need to read the updates for pasta girl, cuz that takes a TURN
“[Zach & Keith] look like the adult version of *do you have games on your phone?*” was one of the roasts during the funeral of the try guys and man this episode really emBODIED that
I have synesthesia! I associate words, letters, songs, and music with colors! And what's fun is I'm bilingual (ish - Korean and English), and each language has different colors for their language 😊
Would you be able to paint them? I feel like people would love to buy a poem written over the colours you associate with it.
I do too! My brother and I have always associated everything with colors or other senses (altho we don't necessarily agree on the pairings lol)
I'm similar! I'm bilingual with French, and I love to learn languages. Each language has a shape!
Same!!! I see numbers and letters in color too. Also bilingual, English and French!
@@megankidd4671 I could! I remember once when I was notating some sheet music for violin, I decided to use color pencils to note when to get louder or softer depending on the dynamic markings ☺️
Coming from the app to say how lovely it was to hear Zach speak about his connection to film @ approx 9min
The movie about turning sounds into music reminds me August Rush! What a weird little movie haha highly recommend for anyone who loves music
I loove the way keith said that for some people the lyrics are an instrument!! it finally clicked why I don't learn hozier's lyrics as fast as I do other pop songs
I have had synesthesia my entire life and I totally lit up when Keith started talking about it. It isn't something that is talked about very often so it just made my whole day. 🎉
Zach hates my favorite peach gummies
I don't know if it's because I studied music for 15 years, or if it's because I'm neurodivergent, but I identified so much with the musical stims and echolalia they discussed- so neat!
Kirsten ?! Interview with the vampire was and is one of my all time favorites and everyone always forgets shes in it !
She was one of the best performances in it even as a kid!
Don't count on walking into top restaurants in Japan without a reservation! All those Bib Gourmand places are going to be booked. I was there in the off season this year, and we saw people turned away from restaurants at opening time on an almost daily basis because restaurants were booked for the whole night. A lot of Japanese restaurants serve a certain number of people a day and they will not accommodate walk-ins even if they have empty tables. You're not going to go hungry since there's loads of food, but if you have your eye on top spots, plan ahead.
Keith describing mimicking noises is called echolalia. It presents in a lot of ways
Keith’s musical muscles thing is just an absolutely beautiful thing to hear about how someone sees the world, I love it.
The Haribo peach gummies are my favorite!! All other kinds are too chewy 😂
ayo Trypod reading reddit??
Ive had those Haribo peach gummies available all my life, i didnt even think about them not being common elsewhere
Same! I couldn’t believe that that’s the candy they hated so much haha
@@amber3033 yeah they're pretty nice imo
I have synesthesia. It is in the form of I see numbers in different colors in my head. Example: 1 is white, 3 is blue, 5 is red, 7 is yellow.... I know that Billie Eilish has mentioned having it as well in interviews before. She sees days of the week in different colors.
Gentlemen, you have become a version of You Can Sit With Us but more chaotic and I could not stop cackling.
Your podcasts help me sleep, not because the content is boring, but it gives me a chance to turn off the many thoughts in my head.
When Zach said tomatoes it GENUINELY took me a MINUTE to figure out what was happening
To jump onto the google maps marking - my cousin actually marks every restaurant/bar etc someone’s told him about, and in the “note” section on that mark he writes the name of whoever told him, and what they recommended he should try. Then he A- knows what to get when he goes to that spot and B-can text people and thank them for the recommendation!
That's such a good idea!
TIL that Bon Iver is pronounced "bone ee-vehr" and NOT "bahn EYE-ver"😭😭
17:44 please stop using betterhelp sponsorship
my spaghetti take: I agree with Rainey that even though OP’s noodle preferences are a little silly, what her boyfriend did was a small betrayal or trust. especially because he was kind of spiteful or malicious about it. it’s one thing to try to push your partner out of their comfort zone and ask them to try something new or be like “hey I forgot to rinse your noodles. try it and tell me what you think. if you don’t like it I’ll fix it” or even have her eat them and be like “hey so I didn’t rinse your noodles. are they okay? I’ll rinse them if not.” but to laugh at your partner and want them to feel foolish for not realizing you tricked them is pretty mean spirited. it’s not the worst thing in the world. but I can see how it might feel kind of belittling
You know, maybe this is a hot take but the tomato essence lady’s sauce thing sounds almost like the food based obsessive compulsions I often have. Like maybe she hates the flavor of the sauce but for an illogical obsessive reason needs to know the pasta has once had sauce. Not crazier than mine, it would explain the anxiety she seems to be having about it but obviously I don’t know.
In that scenario though, it’s pretty fucked up for him to act like she’s being silly. On the other hand, she might be being silly.
It's really strange that they just had a really affirming talk about their experiences with neurodiversity and various brain quirks, and then RIGHT after mocked and made fun of a person that had a different brain quirk from them. They completely missed the point of that story -- it wasn't about how OP should or shouldn't like their food a certain way but how their BF was lying to them for years about a whole bunch of stuff.
11:08 squeex made a tiktok about this 😭 the movie ludwig mentioned was the virgin suicides. ludwig and squeex then watched it after and realized they f'ed up bc kirsten dunst kills herself in the movie 😭
14:00 I do this flexing thing too! It’s not scales but it’s a little tune, I also will repeat certain phrases that I’m reading on signs and turning into a tune
Meta pasta analysis -
Dad hasn't been making it special this whole time... he's been telling her the story since she was 3
My brain also goes on little adventures. Rainie is so valid for voicing how much she likes the Watermelon Sour Patch Kids 🍉
keith i do the same thing with the sounds out in the world, in my head i always here a lil gameshow type voice that goes "Make...That...Sooouuunnd" its quite entertaining-
The conversation about brain and mh stuff made me feel less alone 😊
“try 👏 foods 👏 you hate 👏 AGAIN👏”
please put it on the soundboard 😂
“horny wife, horny wife, everybody wants horny wife” 😂😂😂
When Zach said about not really hearing the lyrics right away... I felt that ❤
i also have diagnosed ocd and i figured out i have it in a very similar way to zach. i was watching grey’s anatomy (the season that bailey has ocd) and i was like…. hmmmmm that’s a little too close to home 😭
the thing keith does (mimicking weird sounds in the moment) is called echolalia . i do the same thing, its a common trait/symptom of autism (which i am autistic) as well as other neurodivergencies. its nice to hear other people talking about just the weird random thing us neurodivergent people do. its definitely an undescribable weird feeling when you feel like you just have to mimic the sound lol sometimes i do it even under my breath or just make my lips form the word/sound if im trying to mask or just.. really not an appropriate time for mimicking but i still really need to do it lol. im sneaky like that ;) lol
(also my favorite thing to mimic is my cats Meows. i cant NOT meow back at him and try to mimic his exact meow sound that he made (he is very vocal and has lots of different meows... this just leads to me mimicking him and then he ends up meowing BACK at me mimicking HIM and we have like a whole half hour long conversation where i have no idea what im actualy saying as im speaking in 'cat') ;)
keith loves cats, i wonder if he has a similar experience lol. cat meows are so contagious.
Zach and Keith with Shayne Reddit stories please? (Smosh)
Good episode regardless ❤
Zach was on an episode awhile back! I don’t remember exactly which one, but he’s in the thumbnail so it’d be easy to find
Keith and I have the same brain. He's said before that he counts things, like when filling up water, he counts up or backwards. Now with the playing scales by flexing different muscles, I've done this my whole life! crazy
miles’ professional advice podcast expertise is really showing here!🎉
zach and i do the EXACT same toe tapping OCD thing!!! i also perceive my OCD as rly in the background but this was a strong reminder that she is alive n kicking
yall should look up “stimming”! its not only a thing that autistic people do, but autistic people can sometimes do them often or repetitively (difference between this and ocd is that its not distressing its emotionally soothing)
love the way zuck reads Reddit stories 😂
I find it hilarious that they are talking about google maps as it is something new hahah
I love the surprise nibbles coming from the belt idea!!
I'm laughing at the daddy story because of the episode when Zach gets waxed and yells daddy 😂😂
it's always so interesting to hear people talk about how lyrics come second to them when listening to music. i listen to music primarily through lyric videos on youtube. very rarely can i fully enjoy a song until i read the lyrics, it's like 70% lyrics to 30% music for me.
Hey y'all, love the Reddit stories stuff! But if you're going to be giving your opinions on these stories, it's important to do what other channels do and actually do a deep dive on the story. Look into the comments/updates/other posts and see the full story. Because some pretty important details as others pointed out were missed.
Ok but once Miles got to the specifics, the google maps advice is actually really good. Being able to use custom icons/emojis for each save category is going to be life changing for us!!! 🤩
Idea for a twist of eat the menu, paint the menu. Keith takes the best from each menu and paints the colors he feels connected to while eating like in an abstract form. Then auction off paintings for charities or use as set pieces or office decor
Am I the only one living for these red light segments of the podcast consisting of Keith’s constant need for more diamonds to advance the storyline of the naughty app? 🤣