The thing about the amulet of Mara is that im pretty sure even after you get married in Skyrim, players still receive a Band of Matrimony or something like that.
I think either way, to say i want more is selfish and dumb. What he did was very thoughtful, and she should have swallowed her pride and dealt with no ring. especially since money is a problem for most these days. She doesnt need to wear it either.@@mage1439
I mean it is literally engagement ring (amulet) and wedding rings (band of matrimony). Except in Skyrim you do not give that amulet to whoever you wanna propose to instead you wear it to show that you wanna marry to someone and if they agree then there is a wedding after which you get rings.
The destroyed PS4 story completely broke my heart. It’s like if your hobby was painting and your partner came in and destroyed every painting you’ve ever made and threw away all your painting supplies, only to then “gift” you with expensive new canvases, paints, and brushes. Yeah, the materials are replaced, but the thing that mattered to you is destroyed and you cannot replace the time, effort, and results of your passion. I almost got out of my seat and walked away like Ian did 😤
While it hurt and cringed to hear that, I do think breaking up was a little overboard - mainly because the issue didn't seem to be about a betrayal of trust, but rather it seems like she misunderstood the nature of how gaming/games work and why people do it (which happens a lot with people who don't play games). I get that this can be something this guy can't come back from and he may need some space, but it also seems like she understood what it meant to him at the end of it and can move on to have a better understanding of the other person - given that they had no issues before and she didn't seem to be malicious.
@@kartrix1 I dunno... I feel like she shouldn't have needed a comparison to understand that she hurt her partner. And the fact that she didn't apologize right away after he told her what she did hurt him so bad is a problem. I'm also not entirely sure I believe her when she said that it wasn't about TikTok. I mean she got the idea from TikTok and had her friend record it all for her... And like they said in the video, I don't necessarily believe people when they're like "Oh, we've never had any issues in our relationship." I feel like even if he didn't realize it, this was a wake-up call. Sad stuff all around regardless, though. :\
@@TheKat12364 I get she broke it, but once he was able to explain it in a way she could understand - she did. It doesn't undo what happened, but I think about how open she was to sit down, communicate and really listen to the other person the way they did in the end - that's the toughest part of a relationship, she was willing to look past her pride and learn why it's wrong. You don't have to be right all the time, but being able to do that on both sides is typically a healthy sign. Breaking up is completely that guy's choice and whether or not they can look past it is completely up to them and that's okay. But, I do also think the fact that they could sit down and have a heart to heart is a good sign and a shame.
@kartrix1 she came into the room wielding a hammer. And just started smashing his stuff. Hell no. She did learn the hard way. And his trust broke completely no coming back from that.
The story about the husband who was obsessed with Final Fantasy gave me flashbacks to my crappy emotionally abusive ex who was also obsessed with video games (and hated spending time with me). Especially the part where he gaslit her so much, she started to question if SHE had the unrealistic view of relationships. I felt that in my soul. Hearing Damien say “you shouldn’t have to convince someone to spend time with you” somehow validated me a tiny bit that I wasn’t crazy. Now I haven’t spoken to that guy in almost 3 years and it feels amazing 🥹
Sounds like my ex. It was an awful situation and I stayed for way too long. So glad I finally left. Looking back it makes me sad that I allowed myself to be treated that way for so long.
@@LMurphy@jesseleek3715 I’m glad y’all are both out of this situation, it can be so hard to leave crap manipulative people. I hope you’re both doing better now 💕
Bruh I feel that. Divorcing mine right now. After that line about convincing them to spend time with you my brain malfunctioned and I burst into tears 🙃 Three cheers for moving on and moving up
They're right, it is an addiction. I've been in the same situation, and after talking to a good friend of mine, we've found some similar behaviour patterns. It really is an illness being that extreme. One funny common point, is that gamers like that hubby are so lazy and they a proud of being THAT lazy. Aaaand cherry on top I ended up breathing too loud.
I absolutely love how unapologetically passionate Damien is about his interests and how he can joke about it without putting himself or others down. It's a really inspiring outlook on life.
A nerd that blatantly loves what they love, owns it, and doesn't care what other people think is truly one of the most powerful people in the world. What's the point of trying to fit in if you can't express what interests you?
@@Subpar1O1 This, with the adult balance of it being obvious to him that you compromise on what is in the joint spaces. He doesn't let the person push his interests away, but also realize that it's their space as well and there is a balance that can be found.
17:24 "cause like look i have no less than 7 keyblades and thats awesome and i love how youre laughing about how awesome that is" i love that Damien so much sometimes.
Watching Damian's soul leave his body as Shayne lists ALL OF THESE GAMES WITH LONG STORIES AND MASSIVE WORLDS and games that don't feel the same after the first playthrough, with secrets galore and countless hours of gametime, felt both cathartic and heartwrenching, like yes, i see you, you see me, we see them, but also JESUS that pain was PALPABLE
As a grown woman and mother, I loved that they pointed out the intergenerational connection that games like Minecraft and Pokémon make. For me it is a part of my childhood, and getting to share that with my kids is so fun and like rediscovering the things all over again through the eyes of my kids. I play both Minecraft and Pokemon Go with my kids, if that makes me a child…🤷♀️
it doesn't make you a child. all grown adults should have a designated time and place to be immature and silly in a safe manner, or else they're liable to get bitter, jaded, and/or depressed. the difference between children and adults is that adults can turn off their immaturity when the situation calls for it, children don't have that ability.
doesn't make you a child. sounds like it makes you a fun mom though :) i have really fond memories of playing wii sports etc with my parents when i was younger and playing strategy puzzle games with my mom on her computer. sounds like your kids will have similar nice memories with different games
34:08 You bastards. For YEARS I've been like, "I love Shayne... Except for that shitty thing he did to Damien in Stardew Valley all those years ago." I don't know how to feel.
I was coming to the comments when Shayne said that he didn’t have any game drama to point out the Stardew Valley incident, and stumbled across your comment. So instead of writing a anything, I watched until I hit the time stamp specified…. I cannot believe I fell for it! It was so out of character for Shayne to do that, but Damien seemed so genuinely pissed off. I totally bought for years that Shayne actually yeeted his best friend’s prize possession into digital hell, and always held a little resentment towards him because of it…..
The way, in the Star Citizen story, the original post includes him calling 'no buy spaceship for six months' a light sentence... Just for him to turn around and go 'no buy spaceship for six months is so unreasonable! so I did it anyways' is wild it's actually crazy
This lady is already far too kind with her 6 months ultimatum. "Babe, please hold off on taking money out of our joint bank account and shovelling it down a bottomless pit for just a few months." And he couldn't even do this for her.
She was nice about it, too! She sat him down calmly, showed appreciation for him and the amulet, and shared with him her own desire. Really glad he realized he was taking it too personally and they worked it out
Destroying someone's PS4 and then being like "Can't you just do it again?" Is like smashing someone's sculpture and plonking down a block of marble and telling them "Just do it again"
About the ps4 guy, he showed an incredible amount of emotional maturity. He didn’t wait for it to get worse and worse, just recognized that his boundaries are being crossed and his actions are likely seeded in a lot of trust issues
taking the ps4 out of the equation: having your partner come home and take something out of your hands, then destroy it in front of you while someone stood by and recorded the moment. it could have been a coffee maker or a vacuum or whatever, that experience alone sounds absolutely traumatizing. i cannot imagine the mindset it takes for someone to preplan something like that, and not only be so caught up in their plan not to notice the distress you're causing someone, but to dismiss it in multiple conversations afterwards? that's nuts, i'm actually really glad he had the sense to get out of that relationship.
I completely agree. I was actually a little surprised that the guys didn’t understand that. Like, even if it all was just a complete misunderstanding and the gf now realizes why what she did was wrong, that’s not something that you just forget about and move on from. It’s not about the fact that it was a ps4, which is what they all fixated from. It’s about the complete lack of understanding, communication, and respect that you have to have for this to happen. And it’s also because she literally smashed his property to bits in front of him with a hammer. That’s actually scary, especially in the moment when you don’t understand what’s going on. That’s a moment when you realize your partner has the capacity for violence towards you or your things and you can never unsee it. If this happened to me I would probably do the same thing the bf did.
@@pohiaexactly. With that one action, she showed her boyfriend that he has a reason to be scared of her. The fact that she couldn’t understand that is mind boggling
Also imagine their faces, the 2 girls were probably smiling the whole time while destroying the ps4 and recording it. I feel a knot in my stomach even thinking about it. Absolutely traumatizing.
agree. also buying someone an upgraded version of something does not give you a permission to destroy the older version, for god's sake. It sounds logical, and yet another simple concept that is difficult to grasp.
I thought so too because we would've gotten bloopers about how it went down and things were okay, but oh boy, this lore had stretched long enough - our hearts are content ❤
I was so relieved when I heard that! Every time I saw that clip it would make me so mad but now I can just just look at it and laugh and not feel the rath of the devil within me 😁
My ex was PASSIONATE about squishmallows. She knew all of their names, she owned over 200 of them, like it was her thing. Her whole family made fun of her for it and it really bothered her. I confronted her parents about it and they told me "you don't need to encourage her weirdness". I never did like her parents
My brother worked on Star Citizen for about a year, leaving the company after realizing that the entire project was an absolute shit show from the top to bottom. The fact that I know from the inside that this company is a joke that does nothing but use predatory practices to farm susceptible people willing to spend ungodly amounts of money, it makes it so incredibly sad to hear that these people have ruined their lives for such a business.
@@sillylittlecourtjester In order to counteract one issue in society, you don't have to take up the inverse version of that issue. An eye for an eye and all that.
Damien is honestly such a great guy - he is so clued into good communication, maturity in relationships, etc. You can really tell that he is a good partner.
Yeah, Damian is definitely a mixed bag About half the time he seems like such a genuine and decent guy, between his communication with cast members during games, and his personal stuff, so I definitely love him for that But on the other hand, he has so many jokes that feel like a real life version of the Chosen
@@ohheyitsguyDamien is on the autism spectrum. I think what you're describing as "real life Chosen behavior" are likely signs of autism. There are people out there who will accept and celebrate Damien as exactly who he is because he's definitely going to make a great partner.
@@e_paige oh I fully agree. I understand that no one I see online is my friend, and that they are humans capable of major things I'm just saying that from we've been presented, he seems chill to hang around
The animal crossing one hurt my soul. I didn’t play it during the lockdown like everyone else did, but I started playing in 2022 when I moved to a completely new city and was at peak loneliness. It helped me through my transition and the game holds a special place in my heart. I did everything I could possibly do in the game and stopped playing it. A couple months ago, my niece moved in with me, and I made the decision to let her override my save file so that she could get comfort out of the game like I did when I first moved here. Honestly the decision to delete my island felt like a bittersweet closing of a chapter. It also felt really good to share the experience with her. It could’ve been such a sweet moment for the couple in the story.
The AC story crushed my soul because I too have lost SO many hours in AC (650+). I literally cried when I lost my switch on an airplane and nothing was backed up like I thought it was! losing so many hours is soul crushing and it's so hard to explain to someone who didn't play
Oh my gosh I totally feel you, I’m so sorry about your loss on your game! My brother did the same shit to me when he gave our switch to his girlfriend, I hope all goes well for you and you’ve gotten some of those hours back.
AC is also a life sim and so often a comfort game for most people who play. It was also one of the biggest releases at the start of the pandemic. Plus the whole point of it is to find villagers you like and interact with them and build relationships to get a bestie. I would straight up be so devastated. So sorry this happened to ya:(
27:47 A therapist once told me that we need to mourn a lot more things than we think. So it's awesome to hear Ian say that that man needed to mourn his Animal Crossing save file because that is exactly something that my therapist would have told me I needed to mourn. 700+ hours is a HUGE investment, it's not insignificant. Granted I'm not going to mourn as intensely or as long as say a death of a family member, but I do need to take some time to process it all and mourn it. It's really the first time I've ever heard someone else think the same way about mourning than I do. Wasn't expecting a feel trip from Smosh Pit on a Saturday lmao 😂
Getting a new console is always a mourning process for me since up until recently you haven't been able to always play the same games or transfer the data. Its always bittersweet because YAY NEW GAMES but also boooo bye save files... 🫠
Yeah I agree. Someone's 700 hour save file is 700 hours of hard work and memories. Like an interactive photo album almost, especially for a game like Animal Crossing.
It’s a great perspective and like that’s a societal problem that we quantify grief and love and things like that, comparing one thing to another when it doesn’t need to be compared. Just experience it as it is.
God I love when Damiens on this, he's just so emotionally intelligent and aware; his view on things and his for lack of a better word; empathy for everyone is just infectious and gives me some faith back in humanity. I'm working hard on reaching that level of emotional intelligence, really awesome to see.
Duuuude pls tell my old therapist you said an autistic person has great empathy. She didn't think I was autistic bc I'm too empathetic 😂 It's just the sense of justice doing its thing!!!
as someone with a highly addictive personality it is very nice to see a segment of adults talking about their own struggles with video game addiction and the things they’ve done to work through it
I’m an old (58) lady and love this show and especially this combination of people. They are all so empathetic and emotionally in tune. Refreshing to see young men (or any men) who are so thoughtful and insightful.
Men have always been this way, men built this world and alot of it is based on empathy, i just watched Oppenheimer, shows you how a man wanted to exceed the boundaries of science and wanted it axed on the bases that it would be used to hurt people that shouldn't have been hurt. These stories are everywhere and are usually hidden from sight because most people dont go seeking validation for kind acts, they just do it so its done.
@@crem-crem4070I mean he's not wrong. I studied history in highschool, college and took a few courses in uni. Women had a large hand of course but for most it was built by men.
@@lunsettabee i watch a lot of history documentaries and i prefer objective truth, theres always a risk that our history has been altered in order to bend the absolute truth but the common trend especially in the last few centuries is that overly ambitious, almost psychopathic and greedy men and mens war have often progressed our technology and infrastructure. If this wasn't true then women's suffrage was a lie and would be a lie today wouldn't you agree. You can't use the exception to the rule as the defining rule, women have made great achievements through history but only a handfull have held power, power to change the very existence of human integrity. That being said men have always held empathy because its empathy that creates rebellion when a man of power is unjust, anger too is a subset of empathy, to see your entire people slaughtered it makes you sad and angry to a point where you want to fight so it wont happen to fellow villagers, sometimes you stop, sometimes you become so infused with rage that you become the monster you were fighting and the cycle forever continues.
Oh my gosh... the story of the partner smashing the PS4 is actually making me cry. Not mostly at the loss of the item, or even the work put into it, but the fact that he lost interest in gaming in general, and a hobby that brought so much joy to him has been tainted with shock, trauma, loss, grief over their partnership, etc. Ugh. Please remember people, PRANKS SHOULD CONFUSE AND AMUSE, NOT ABUSE. My heart to OP.
When a prank forces someone to lose interest in a hobby because it brought him/her trauma, you know it's bad. What once gave them joy in the past now has a very negative connotation that they'd like to forget. To the ex that did this awful prank, don't believe everything you see on the internet. Your action did not match the intention. OP deserves a better person than this monster. 😢
For real. Could you imagine having a super hobby, like gaming, sewing, lego building, gardening, etc Let's say it was legos, I can't imagine if someone came in and destroyed my old lego setups and then revealed that they got me some new lego sets.... Uhm... My heart would be broken in so many ways. @@andycanoy863
Agreed. I'd be livid if a SO thought it'd be okay to destroy something I cared about for a "viral" video. The level of cruelty and disregard for OP's feelings in general is appalling.
@@TheOneTrueErica How dumb was the ex to think that a "prank" video she saw on the internet that involved breaking stuff was a great idea to do when presenting an expensive gift to her ex partner? Why is it do damn hard to just to do a simple gift presentation that didn't involve destruction of personal property? Not everything has to be so outlandish and extravagant. It's the thought that counts.
The lore drop about the golden statue is insane 😭😭 I remember when it happened I was so heartbroken for Damien im finally at peace knowing it wasn't lost 😂🤯
Ian and Damien are a super underrated duo in general but especially on reddit stories. I love watching the chaos gremlins be thoughtful and introspective.
We always talk about Damiens high empathy and Shayne has it too. But with reddit stories opposed to other videos- I feel we see how Ian is actually A LOT more empathetic then we’ve all been led to believe. Sometimes he says some really insightful things on this show and I go “woah. I never about ___soandso before.”
Just the idea of a partner walking in with a sledge hammer and destroying anything, no matter what, would be enough to lose trust and not feel safe in your home and shared space anymore.
I have a really shitty car. It was my first car, had it for years, and needs to be replaced as it's on its last leg. Even with all that in mind; I would be heartbroken and shattered if my gf just bashed it in and replaced it with even my dream car. Although it's on its way out, I have so many precious memories with that car. Walking up and destroying something like that isn't only breaking your partner's trust: it is also removing their agency over their own memories/possessions.
I'm glad they broke up to be honest. It hopefully teachers her that such an act has no place in a relationship. I'd be scared to have kids with her. Parents who destroy their kids' prized posessions is one of the most anxiety inducing things a child can face to me.
Yeah, that, and also the "part of me" is not just about it being a gaming console. I play games and do crafts and would have the same reaction if either of those hobbies was disrespected and destroyed like that. It's not about what it is, it's about something you had that you took time to create, and the person who's supposed to be your most loved one just destroyed it. It's fair he broke up. Also the "I just wanted to see you happy" is bullshit. Sure, maybe she didn't want to post it for clout, but the fact that she was ok with hurting him first is insane. It's like those "pranks" where someone supposedly dies, it's not nice. There's something twisted in you if you think something like this is ok.
The thing people missed too is he was talking about completing the games as in 100%. Im assuming Platinum trophies. It meant a lot because he was a completionist. So his PS4 was essentially a log of his achievements that he can never get back.
Thank you so much for tagging a time. I've seen so many people mention loosing the game, and I figured that it was from someone saying something but I could not for the life of me figure out what it was!!
Regarding game addiction: when I was little my mom taught me something called "losing your balance" bc of our family's addictive personality. When I'd get something like a headache or anxiety from gaming too much she'd say "that's from losing your balance", so I started very carefully watching to make sure where the line was. She didn't really physically stop me much bc of my home situation, but it has made me such a healthy adult with knowing my limits
I love that analogy. I have an addictive personality so I make sure to toe the line in any new thing, and periodically check in to see how my life is balancing with that certain aspect in the mix. Your mom made a good move teaching that to you young.
1:07:08 she broke his trust completely and then was cold about it. In that moment his whole world came crashing down and his perception of her changed forever
Yeah, i think the biggest issue that made it irreparable is that she was so flippant and dismissive about him being upset. Instead of her immediately jumping to "oh god im so sorry i really miscalculated! i didnt realize that id be destroying game data. im so so sorry!" (which i imagine the majority of people would do if they saw how upset he was) she IMMEDIATELY went and became defensive. Both her and her friend just acted like he was ungrateful instead of being able to go "oh damn we messed up big time!". I think that that response on her part gives a lot of insight into how she values his feelings.
@@shanemiller1182 That was my first thought, not the gaming system, but "She walked in...with a hammer..." I had to relisten to hear what she broke because I was busy thinking about the hammer. I then had to wonder, okay, what's next?
It is for sure a red flag that she was so easily convinced to destroy something with that level of violence. Honestly, destroying things is often the first thing when it comes to violent people, I don't mean to assume but it's very concerning that she did that
Right and even if he had saved stuff and she knew that she still destroyed it in the middle of him playing a game. Anyone would be mad if someone interrupted their gaming time. He was trying to have a conversation with her while playing the game
As somebody who has spent hundreds on a mobile game, I appreciate the delicacy in discussing gaming/spending addiction. And understanding everyone has different thresholds/tipping points for addiction, as well as obviously vices. It was really validating and I appreciate it. ❤
@@tiegan7158 They mean getting a child who born during the Victorian era (around 1840's-1900's) and telling them the story to confuse them. The joke is that the victorian child would obviously want to buy the spaceship because they wouldn't realise the spaceship wasn't real.
@@tiegan7158 Its a meme going round atm that essentially means that some of the things we talk about in modern life, like buying virtual spaceships in a video game like in this instance, would be so alien to a victorian child that it would break their mind.
59:16 Here’s a better analogy for destroying the ps4: I’m an artist. Someone bought me a full set of dream materials, things i could create crazy dreams with. So they destroy my entire body of work, all my paintings and drawings. Wouldn’t i want to just redo them with the better paint? Isn’t it kind of shitty for me to not be grateful? Even if the files weren’t lost, that’s an emotionally and physically abusive act. She’s going to be even angrier if he flinches. Or doesn’t ever trust her again. Or doesn’t share anything about his inner world or life.
This is exactly it. Everyone has that "one thing" in their life that if you break it, you're out. Like, I'm a big Lego enthusiast. It's a toy, yeah, but it's MY hobby. I've been passionate about it since before I can remember. I have a collection that literally spans multiple decades. I'm 26 now and still build and collect. If someone, and I mean ANYONE, threw out my Lego collection without talking to me about it, they're out of my life. I wouldn't talk to them again. That's trust that's been broken, that's years of memories gone, that's money that's been lost, etc. Everyone has something that, if destroyed, would break their trust in an instant. For that guy, it was his PS4.
Totally get it. I had been doing a floor to ceiling wall mural in hallway. It was done in multiple layers and detail work was done with fine line paint pens. It was something that I always wanted to do. It took a lot of time, worked on it in moments of free time. Long story short, it had to be painted over. What got me was the lack of understanding why I was so upset. Stopped painting after that.....
Exactly about the violence! That's a violent action - even if she had just come back to break worthless dollar store plates, that's violence, and I'd be horrified if my partner did that. I wouldn't feel safe around them again.
@@melissasharkey8632I’m so sorry that happened and that it took the joy out of painting for you. Obviously I don’t know any specifics of your situation but I hope you can find a way to enjoy it again
For the animal crossing story: I play the sims and I feel the same way. Although time moves faster, it takes time to build everything personally if you’re not using cheats and you’re really caring about the stories.
Shayne: I feel like my gaming life has been pretty peaceful Shayne in Nidhogg: No no no, please, no! NOO! Not Necessary Edit: this was supposed to be in the main comment section but it posted as a reply here. I thought my phone glitched out and did it again, and now I feel silly for essentially making the same joke twice in one video
I love that Shayne hosts these as his responses are consistently measured and fair. But I especially love it whenever Ian, Damien, or Arasha are on as well. Their responses are always mature and compassionate and together with Shayne the episode is a wonderful wholesome thing even if the stories are out of this world.
The best responses/judgements are from Courtney, Ian, Damien, Shayne, Arasha and SPENCER!! Always spot-on, nuanced and thoughtful takes. Honestly the whole cast and crew have had consistently good takes, can't say the same about some of the guests outside of smosh though 😬
1:07:28 i feel like it was more about trust than it was about the Playstation. She went to this extreme because of a video on tiktok. What other pranks would she pull on a whim just because? Thats probably what he's also thinking about. Is he going to be made a video prop in her life because she is into posting on social media? Once trust is broken its very hard to get it back.
The Animal Crossing story is the same as if someone spent 700hrs on a painting and their partner decided they wanted to start painting so they painted the canvas back to white😹😹 imagine coming home and something you've worked so hard on is just gone forever.
The thing is it's not actually about gaming usually. It usually is about either ignoring/neglecting your partner, lacking respect, bad communication, addiction or mental health.
Thats so sad. As a child i was obsessed with spongebob. Who isnt? 😅 and that obsession went into adulthood. Once i got my first job at 18, i then would buy anything SpongeBob that i saw when i would go anywhere. Plushies. Playing cards. Chocolates. Clothes. Anything lol. I would collect the entire cast 😂 i loved it and was so proud of it. I had a book shelf covered with stuff. For years. And my little siblings ruined it one day. Devastated me. So i threw it all out and never collected anything again. But at the time, i could care less who made fun of me. But really no one did but my mother of course ugh. But my friends thought it was adorable. When they would see something at a random store they would buy & give it to me to help add to my collection because they knew how happy it would make me. When i came home to find it destroyed, it broke my spirit. I would love to start another collection someday. But the thought of all that work to be followed by loss, saddens me. I learned that day to not care about items. But more on people. Which im glad for. Now i could care less when things get broken. It happens. Nothing is meant to last forever. But man i wish i still had that collection. Im 30 now. I can imagine how enormous it would be today 😂 but yea, fuck what people think lol duh! Do what makes u happy. Thats what life is about 💯 ❤
About the guy with the PS4, I think a point that wasn’t discussed it’s the “violence” fact. Like I would be disturbed if out of nowhere my partner smashes my switch (even if it’s a surprise, there’s an element of destruction) that would make me reconsider their behavior for future situations. I don’t think he was in the wrong from broken up with her tbh.
That's a really great point! That would be a scary moment to be in - someone loudly destroying your property with a hammer, and you have no idea where this behavior is coming from, if it's going to escalate, why they brought someone with them while they do this... that's a chilling moment. Even if he could rationalize the situation later, I would imagine his feelings of "this is a safe and predictable person" would have changed at a gut level. I can see why, even if he was able to understand her point of view, this was so upsetting he couldn't move past it.
This was my first thought. If I (woman) was with a man who burst out into physical violence one day, whether it’s against an object or a person, I’m leaving before it’s me. And even if he never hits me, the trust that he won’t is gone. I won’t feel safe.
Excatly, that moment would be so scary. My first thought would be "wtf is happening?" and second "what will they attack/do next?" And I don't know if I'd ever be able to get over that fear. To be fair, I grew up in an abusive home so my constant reality was waiting for the moment someone would suddenly snap and fearing what they might do, and I think experiencing what happened in the reddit story would send me right back there and I would leave as soon as I felt i safely could.
With the pokemon - my husband has loved pokemon since he was 8. He has a huge card collection. I thought it was cool and we totally still go out playing pokemon go. and it was a great way for him to connect to our kids as they got older - safe for kids and something he enjoys already. A few years ago we decorated the house for his birthday with pokemon table cloths and wallhangings. It was such a fun birthday! Pokemon has become a family fandom. ❤😊
I did a doubletake when the OP in the second story claimed Pokemon was childish and then said with his full chest he enjoys Minecraft. Like my dude, I've known multiple kids under 10 years old through my job and family who are OBSESSED with Minecraft. Nothing wrong with liking Minecraft as an adult, but talk about throwing a boulder through your glass house man. I'm glad he realized the errors of his ways though.
The PS4 attack was completely unhinged, and I fully get why something like that would end a relationship, just for the violence of it all. HOWEVER: the melodrama of saying "everything is broken now, just like my PS4" is very funny to me.
@@xxbulbaSAUCE right, im like if i destroyed your purse you've had for 4 years cuz I got you the new version, id guarantee you not a single girl on earth would be okay. Destroying stuff is never a good surprise
@@flashbacker8935….holy false equivalencies, Batman! First off, old purses are no where near the same as a PlayStation filled with games and save files and no normal woman would view it as such Have you EVER talked to a woman?
@@crem-crem4070You completely missed the point. Plenty of women would rightfully break up with a guy for destroying their favorite purse they've had for years. And if something as "small" as that would cause it, all the easier to understand the same for a PS4 Also people don't always value things the same. Shayne in this video says how a PS4 doesn't matter much to him.
@@LordVader1094 ehhhh if you replaced my oldest purse with a newer version of it I probably wouldn’t mind. Because it’s a PURSE, I have a dozen others and most are easily replaced.
The girlfriend destroying the ps4 is crazy. Imagine doing that with another hobby, like your boyfriend does pottery and you just SMASH the nice tea set he finally finished and you tell him "but look, I got you a new one I bought and it was very expensive" then, when he tells you he put his heart into the other one you tell him "well, you can just do make it again right?".
I had a bf smash my ps4 once, it’s heartbreaking. I had it for over 5 years, I got another one two years later but moved on to Xbox by then, I still can’t get back in to ps after that.
It's a bit different I think. I think she legitemately did not know that she was destroying his savegames and just thought there would be no reason to keep the old one when she got him the PS5. The result is still the same but intent matters. Does it matter enough? Ultimately his desicion to make.
@@lezorn Oh she probably didn't think she was doing anything wrong, but I still think that destroying someone else's property without asking, no matter the intent behing it, is insane.
i mean "i want a ring" is the classic cult speech of someone in the jaws of the de beers diamond company because engagement rings are only like 100 years old
I think what gets me about the PS4 smashing story is that after multiple times of him trying to explain it to her, she dismisses it until he's on his way out... Like after the first or second time he tried to explain, even if I didn't get it, I would still say sorry and try to make it up to him because I could see that it effected someone I loved a lot. I think that's why he didn't want to stay. Even if she couldn't understand, she didn't even try to empathize or make it better until she understood. Sometimes it's better to see that you did wrong and fix it and then try to understand why it was wrong before doing something about it.
And re: “trying to understand” - if you are deciding it will only ‘make sense’ or ‘be a reasonable feeling to feel’ if it makes sense to you according to your personal logic and values, you’re being an a-hole. If it hurt someone, ask for THEIR logic and reasoning. Understand it from the point of view of their values. You don’t get to decide whether they are “allowed” to feel that or if they’re being “irrational.” An example from interacting with my dad: “Well *I* don’t get upset if someone insults me to my face, therefore if you have a problem with it you’re being a baby. Where’s the problem. I don’t understand”
Exactly!! It was starting to bother me watching the guys discuss this and be unsure about OP’s decision to break up over this. They kept boiling it down to “breaking a PS4” when OP said in his post that he was breaking up with her for not being able to empathize with why that made him upset. It’s not about how important a ps4 is to any given person, it’s about if your partner can understand and recognize they unintentionally hurt you and can apologize. And she couldn’t, so he broke up with her.
Some people think that if they had good intentions, they don't have to apologize. I've met people like that. Now, I'd rather deal with someone who has good intentions rather than people who have bad intentions. But the ability to empathize is key for healthy relationships. She had no ill will, but that's not a "get out of accountability" card. She should feel bad, and she should apologize.
That Animal Crossing one is PAINFUL dude. I'm really glad Damien and Shayne pointed out that it's not about the game so much as it's about the lack of patience and consideration to ask permission first. Like Damien said, for a lot of people who don't play games it might seem silly because they don't take games seriously, but I think independently deciding to destroy something of your partner's - especially something irreplaceable that they invested so much time into - is a red flag that should be understandable to anyone. You don't get to decide how much sentimental value something "should' have to a person, even if you can't relate to it. I have a Skyrim save that I haven't touched in probably 10 years. At this point chances are I'll never play it again, but that save file is going to live on my Steam cloud forever because it holds memories for me, even if those memories happened in a virtual world.
The husband losing interest and how the girlfriend disappeared for the week; the update is heartbreaking. This is exactly what was happening behind my back with my ex, he’d be talking to girls on discord, playing games with them 24/7 and sometimes I’d wake up in the middle of the night and hear them flirting. One time he kicked me out the house we lived in because I found out and I came back to him muting the mic on a call with her at convenient moments to keep us both happy and for neither of us to leave him.. there’s so many horrific stories with him that I could spend all day writing about but I’m so glad to be away from that now but holy sh!t the feeling I got hearing this story was a big PTSD moment, I hope the girl is feeling better now, those men are a waste of space.
yep he's either developed an addiction or he's suffering from severe depression and disassociating for long periods of time without realizing how many days have passed... either way he's got some issues and it's not up to her to fix them
This episode was super interesting. I was already biased to like it from the start, but damn, top quality. Also, Damien is an inspiration for how empathetic and emotionally intelligent he is.
As someone who's struggled just to keep a roof over my head, that last one made me so angry. Flushing a down payment for a house down the toilet basically, being able to make that much in under a year, then flushing it again. Just give me your money and I'll draw you a picture of a space ship.
@@reptiqueen7275 $15k is what some people make in a year, it's insane for it to just disappear like that, especially considering OP probably downplayed the amount and went on to spend another thousand or so in the update post.
@@reptiqueen7275 it clearly wasn't life-changing for her, or she wouldn't have given him the "no ships for 6 months" ultimatum. Still a dick thing to do, but she clearly wasn't as impacted by it as most of us would've been
Op had updated around a month ago saying he’s in unrecoverable debt and might lose his apartment and is already losing his job. A lot of gambling addicts spend money that they don’t really have.
@@beafraid5467jesus. It's undercut by the fact that it's spaceships in a video game but he is seriously addicted to it. I hope he kicks it because he might have found the absolute worst game to whale on.
Bro the girl that busted the PS4. I just can’t. That’s like walking into someone’s art studio, destroying everything in it. The art, tools, equipment, furniture, etc, and then being like “guess who got you a new art studio!!” Like wtf did she think was going to happen?
I just compare it to my art, I’ve got a sketchbook as well as an art tablet, I’ve spent hours and/or days on my digital art and sometimes just as much in my sketchbook. I’d be devastated if someone burned my sketchbook or smashed my art tablet, sure a “better” one is nice but I’ve put hours into my work, work that most of the time isn’t saved and I’ll never get that back, honestly I think I’d just drop the pen atp as it would absolutely break my heart.
I completely understand the PS4 guy. I've had similar things happen and while the initial event hurts the way the person who did it acts afterwards can make or break the way you view them from then on. Acknowledgement and an apology can be all that's needed to fix the situation, but if they completely disregard the affect it has on you, then... Yeah...
That PS4 story was really sad. His girlfriend destroyed not only his PS4, but his memories with it, the relationship and his passion for videogames. That is insanely upsetting, losing passion for something you've loved for many years.
Agree. How thick headed do you have to be to not to see that destroying someone's property is f--ked up and what worst is that based on his reaction she still had not sympathy. Like it's ok you don't understand/get his hobby but when you literally destroy it and have to explain it like she's a 5-8 years old, is messed up. Me, I would take the PS5 and also make her buy me a new PS4.
THE LORE DROP WAS UNEXPECTED but honestly very enlightening to me. i was watching at the time of that damien and shayne show back in 201whatever and i was like "damn... are they gonna need to have a talk about that?" I'm glad no real cats of endless fortune were harmed
Another thing about the amulet of Mara. It’s a symbol to let people know you’re LOOKING for marriage. Not a tradition symbol for being married but actually being single and actively looking for a partner.
Never played Skyrim. Googled the amulet and it's exactly how Damien described it, a big ass medallion with a Celtic knot and a turquoise stone in the middle. While it might be a thoughtful and sweet gesture, I can DEFINITELY see why she is also asking for a ring
The ps4 smashing was so violent and unprompted that it could easily be seen as spousal abuse. That it came with a bribe afterwards doesn't undo the trauma
Apparently sitting down and having an actual civilized conversation instead of going straight to violence takes so much brain power that an old computer can process. Whether you did as a joke, surprise, or otherwise, it makes you SUS. There are better ways to present someone with a gift but she chose an outlandish method that had a low percentage of making her partner happy.
@@claytonreeves150 Felt so bad for the guy. Small frustrations or annoyances in any relationship is one thing but it takes one major incident to change the entire situation forever. Unsalvageability; very high.
@@claytonreeves150definitely weird she thought it would be funny to record his reaction and that the gift would automatically make any feelings he had go away. It’s a good thing he made her realize it was messed up.
With the smashed PS4 story: I still have my childhood XBOX 360. I’ve had it since 2006, it came with me when I went to college. I spilled a glass of wine in the ports and thought it was done for, but after leaving it on its side for about a month (I was too scared to turn it on) it still works perfectly. It’s been through the majority of my life with me. It’s an almost 20 year old console. My dad taught me how to play video games on that console. There were times when everything in my life was extremely turbulent and distressing, but for those few hours when I could just sit down and play Viva Piñata, I could just exist and be okay. If someone smashed it right in front of me, I don’t know if I could ever speak to them again. I certainly wouldn’t ever trust them again. My heart goes out to that guy.
It’s one of those things where even if you don’t log onto it for months or years at a time, it holds so many memories that the second you boot it back up you will be right where you left off. Genuinely broke my heart.
I had my husband buy me a $20 ring cause I lose jewelry so often. He passed 2 years ago and it's the one piece of jewelry I've never lost for a moment.
i'm sorry to hear that he's passed but that's so sweet... also you did with that ring what my dad should've done. he managed to put his wedding ring in such a "safe place" we've yet to find it. really beautiful that you've not lost yours 🩷
Adding to the "childish interests" convo in the second story - a lot of people who had unstable childhoods were forced to grow up FAST, and often weren't allowed, or didn't allow themselves, to enjoy things made for children when they were children. When they seek these things out as an adult, they are healing from that trauma. I'm not saying every 35 year old taking themselves on a fun trip to Build-A-Bear Workshop is an abuse survivor, but indulging your inner child is a legitimate therapy method. The child that you were doesn't disappear when you turn 18. You can repress them and deny them comfort, but that child will always be a part of you. The sooner you accept that, the sooner you can embrace everything that you are, and you'll be less likely to judge other adults for watching cartoons and playing with Legos.
it doesn't even have to be that complicated lol this shit is fun and they're adults, they can do whatever the fuck they want and you're an asshole for judging the things they like lmao. plus, pokemon and anime and shit is cool now, some of the biggest personalities online like these things lol
This makes me think of the short story ‘Eleven’ by Sandra Cisneros. ‘What they don't understand about birthdays and what they never tell you is that when you're eleven, you're also ten, and nine, and eight, and seven, and six, and five, and four, and three, and two, and one. And when you wake up on your eleventh birthday you expect to feel eleven, but you don't. You open your eyes and everything's just like yesterday, only it's today. And you don't feel eleven at all. You feel like you're still ten. And you are --underneath the year that makes you eleven.’
People gave Michael Jackson a ton of shit for acting childish and having an amusement park at his house. But the guy had no childhood and was abused by a POS father.
1:14:24 the look on Damien’s face is so real. It’s like he’s watching the world crack into a billion little pieces. Whatever remained of his soul is now gone and he didn’t even get to say goodbye
I understand the quitting gaming after all those hours and memories destroyed from the PS4. I'm an artist and lost the desire/drive to draw for 2 full years, when all of my collection of art, sketchbooks, and supplies were disrespectfully thrown out by family members during my parents' messy divorce. Shit like that literally BREAKS you, and it makes it incredibly hard to find the enjoyment in it again. . . At least for a long while, in my experience 💔
10:14 As a person who’s special interest is Yu-Gi-Oh and has a huge collection of merch from the show, I feel so bad for that girl. Her boyfriend cares more about what others think than what makes his girlfriend happy. The second he heard them making fun of her he should’ve defended her, not agreed with them.. I’m glad he stood up for her in the end and tried being part of her interest 💜
I have my Doctor who Sonic screwdriver collection displayed in our bedroom, along with my grogu ( baby yoda) dolls / soft toys ( I have several) and my lego mini figures . I'm a happily married woman (44 years old.) My husband has all our games and gaming consoles displayed in our bedroom, too . we are a geek /nerd /gamer household, and we encourage our kids to embrace their hobbies and not be ashamed to let their nerd flag fly.
I love Yu-Gi-Oh, admittedly only the first generation of it but damn it was a good story, I loved the Dark side of Dimensions movie! Got kind lost with all the new cards but oh well lol
Eyyy, twinsies! I was scrolling through Etsy merch while listening to that story. I'm telling myself to wait before I splurge on some glass coasters that are casts of different cards 😎
43:20 setting this comment so people can find Shayne's take on gaming addiction and healthy boundaries you have to set for yourself sometimes. He talks about his addiction to WoW and his policy with types of games he allows himself to play.
Something to be mentioned with the ps4 story is that causing your partner intentional pain emotional or otherwise, with the intent of being the person who makes them feel better, is manipulation and abuse. It is a tactic often used by narcissistic people. I wouldn't be surprised if the family pointed out other instances where shed done similar things that might have affected his decision to leave. My ex admitted to intentionally making me cry so he could cheer me up. He thought it was sweet. Its a tactic to get them to see you as the hero, the savior, the person they trust when really they are the one causing the pain in the first place.
This is such a good point. My ex did the same thing. It gets tiring once you know the charade and they get pissed/dismissive if you don't give the reaction they're trying to milk out of you. Like you said, the person purposefully causing you pain should not be the same person you go to to feel better. Took a long time to learn.
27:29 this story made me wanna play animal crossing again. i had a villager that i kicked out but i felt so bad abt it that i cried & forced my mom to move him into her village so he wouldn’t be lost in the void lol
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The thing about the amulet of Mara is that im pretty sure even after you get married in Skyrim, players still receive a Band of Matrimony or something like that.
Also, this guy knows his GF doesn't like jewelry, so he got her a big, clunky-assed amulet. The brains on this guy...
I think either way, to say i want more is selfish and dumb. What he did was very thoughtful, and she should have swallowed her pride and dealt with no ring. especially since money is a problem for most these days. She doesnt need to wear it either.@@mage1439
This is true
They do, the amulet is only for ceremonial purposes.
I mean it is literally engagement ring (amulet) and wedding rings (band of matrimony). Except in Skyrim you do not give that amulet to whoever you wanna propose to instead you wear it to show that you wanna marry to someone and if they agree then there is a wedding after which you get rings.
Ian giving strong “Dad trying to reconnect with his son Damien” energy.
Especially the Civ VI part lol
I read this the moment Damien asked him for a fist bump. It hit.
@@Emishson 😂😂😂
Very strange energy to have given their three year age difference.
😂😂
The destroyed PS4 story completely broke my heart. It’s like if your hobby was painting and your partner came in and destroyed every painting you’ve ever made and threw away all your painting supplies, only to then “gift” you with expensive new canvases, paints, and brushes. Yeah, the materials are replaced, but the thing that mattered to you is destroyed and you cannot replace the time, effort, and results of your passion. I almost got out of my seat and walked away like Ian did 😤
While it hurt and cringed to hear that, I do think breaking up was a little overboard - mainly because the issue didn't seem to be about a betrayal of trust, but rather it seems like she misunderstood the nature of how gaming/games work and why people do it (which happens a lot with people who don't play games). I get that this can be something this guy can't come back from and he may need some space, but it also seems like she understood what it meant to him at the end of it and can move on to have a better understanding of the other person - given that they had no issues before and she didn't seem to be malicious.
@@kartrix1 I dunno... I feel like she shouldn't have needed a comparison to understand that she hurt her partner. And the fact that she didn't apologize right away after he told her what she did hurt him so bad is a problem. I'm also not entirely sure I believe her when she said that it wasn't about TikTok. I mean she got the idea from TikTok and had her friend record it all for her... And like they said in the video, I don't necessarily believe people when they're like "Oh, we've never had any issues in our relationship." I feel like even if he didn't realize it, this was a wake-up call. Sad stuff all around regardless, though. :\
@kartrix1 you don't just break your partners things period. It doesn't matter what she broke she just fucking broke it.
@@TheKat12364 I get she broke it, but once he was able to explain it in a way she could understand - she did. It doesn't undo what happened, but I think about how open she was to sit down, communicate and really listen to the other person the way they did in the end - that's the toughest part of a relationship, she was willing to look past her pride and learn why it's wrong.
You don't have to be right all the time, but being able to do that on both sides is typically a healthy sign.
Breaking up is completely that guy's choice and whether or not they can look past it is completely up to them and that's okay. But, I do also think the fact that they could sit down and have a heart to heart is a good sign and a shame.
@kartrix1 she came into the room wielding a hammer. And just started smashing his stuff. Hell no. She did learn the hard way. And his trust broke completely no coming back from that.
The story about the husband who was obsessed with Final Fantasy gave me flashbacks to my crappy emotionally abusive ex who was also obsessed with video games (and hated spending time with me). Especially the part where he gaslit her so much, she started to question if SHE had the unrealistic view of relationships. I felt that in my soul. Hearing Damien say “you shouldn’t have to convince someone to spend time with you” somehow validated me a tiny bit that I wasn’t crazy. Now I haven’t spoken to that guy in almost 3 years and it feels amazing 🥹
Sounds like my ex. It was an awful situation and I stayed for way too long. So glad I finally left. Looking back it makes me sad that I allowed myself to be treated that way for so long.
@@LMurphy@jesseleek3715 I’m glad y’all are both out of this situation, it can be so hard to leave crap manipulative people. I hope you’re both doing better now 💕
The husband doesn't deserve to even utter Final Fantasy.
Bruh I feel that. Divorcing mine right now. After that line about convincing them to spend time with you my brain malfunctioned and I burst into tears 🙃 Three cheers for moving on and moving up
They're right, it is an addiction. I've been in the same situation, and after talking to a good friend of mine, we've found some similar behaviour patterns. It really is an illness being that extreme.
One funny common point, is that gamers like that hubby are so lazy and they a proud of being THAT lazy.
Aaaand cherry on top I ended up breathing too loud.
I absolutely love how unapologetically passionate Damien is about his interests and how he can joke about it without putting himself or others down. It's a really inspiring outlook on life.
“I have no less than seven keyblades. And it’s awesome and I love that you’re laughing at how awesome that is” is truly a gift in itself
Therapy
A nerd that blatantly loves what they love, owns it, and doesn't care what other people think is truly one of the most powerful people in the world. What's the point of trying to fit in if you can't express what interests you?
@@Subpar1O1 This, with the adult balance of it being obvious to him that you compromise on what is in the joint spaces. He doesn't let the person push his interests away, but also realize that it's their space as well and there is a balance that can be found.
Absolutely. It’s also what I love about most people who have passions/hobbies related to gaming.
17:24 "cause like look i have no less than 7 keyblades and thats awesome and i love how youre laughing about how awesome that is" i love that Damien so much sometimes.
Haha 100%, that line cracked me up 😆
I'm jealous of the 7 keyblades I'm gonna be honest 😅
As someone with multiple master swords, I get it
Watching Damian's soul leave his body as Shayne lists ALL OF THESE GAMES WITH LONG STORIES AND MASSIVE WORLDS and games that don't feel the same after the first playthrough, with secrets galore and countless hours of gametime, felt both cathartic and heartwrenching, like yes, i see you, you see me, we see them, but also JESUS that pain was PALPABLE
Timestamp?
@@LordVader1094 58:15
My heart throbbed and skipped a few heartbeats with the story
Yeah, every single one listed you could see Damian collapse inward more and more like a dying star
As a grown woman and mother, I loved that they pointed out the intergenerational connection that games like Minecraft and Pokémon make. For me it is a part of my childhood, and getting to share that with my kids is so fun and like rediscovering the things all over again through the eyes of my kids. I play both Minecraft and Pokemon Go with my kids, if that makes me a child…🤷♀️
it doesn't make you a child. all grown adults should have a designated time and place to be immature and silly in a safe manner, or else they're liable to get bitter, jaded, and/or depressed.
the difference between children and adults is that adults can turn off their immaturity when the situation calls for it, children don't have that ability.
doesn't make you a child. sounds like it makes you a fun mom though :) i have really fond memories of playing wii sports etc with my parents when i was younger and playing strategy puzzle games with my mom on her computer. sounds like your kids will have similar nice memories with different games
WHEN YOUR NEPHEW IS OLD ENOUGH TO HAVE JOINTS???
Im screaming and hollering
Haha I get what he means though. Little kids literally don't have kneecaps and walk around in a t-pose. The description was hilariously accurate!
phrasing is wild
i was also picturing different joints lol
@@hernameispekka_Rebeccaomg I looked it up and it’s true! You taught me something new today.
@@hernameispekka_Rebeccaif only they moved without the use of their legs like a true t-pose lol
34:08 You bastards. For YEARS I've been like, "I love Shayne... Except for that shitty thing he did to Damien in Stardew Valley all those years ago." I don't know how to feel.
Now he's... perfect😱
RIGHT?! I had legitimately been concerned since then! So happy for the surprise lore drop!! 😅
I was coming to the comments when Shayne said that he didn’t have any game drama to point out the Stardew Valley incident, and stumbled across your comment. So instead of writing a anything, I watched until I hit the time stamp specified…. I cannot believe I fell for it! It was so out of character for Shayne to do that, but Damien seemed so genuinely pissed off. I totally bought for years that Shayne actually yeeted his best friend’s prize possession into digital hell, and always held a little resentment towards him because of it…..
Okay so I don’t know if you’re joking or not but what happened?
@@Felix_hobifor a while it was believed that Shayne threw away one of Damien’s prized items (that are hard to get) in stardew, in a video way back
The way, in the Star Citizen story, the original post includes him calling 'no buy spaceship for six months' a light sentence... Just for him to turn around and go 'no buy spaceship for six months is so unreasonable! so I did it anyways' is wild it's actually crazy
This lady is already far too kind with her 6 months ultimatum. "Babe, please hold off on taking money out of our joint bank account and shovelling it down a bottomless pit for just a few months." And he couldn't even do this for her.
1:13:23 “As part of reconciliation, she asked me not to purchase anymore spaceships for 6 months.” “Phrases that will break a Victorian child’s mind”
"How much we talkin', space man?" and "Wouldn't you like to know, weather boy?" have the same energy.
you’re so right
Dude, she accepted your proposal via Amulet of Fucking Mara. When she asks you to go ring shopping, you nod and go fucking ring shopping.
So glad they talked and ended up married.
Thank you!!!!
She was nice about it, too! She sat him down calmly, showed appreciation for him and the amulet, and shared with him her own desire. Really glad he realized he was taking it too personally and they worked it out
"Ray, if someone accepts your proposal via a prop replica, you say YES!"
Same bro. Man is living the dream and instead of getting his bride to be a pretty ring he posted about her on Reddit.
Destroying someone's PS4 and then being like "Can't you just do it again?" Is like smashing someone's sculpture and plonking down a block of marble and telling them "Just do it again"
About the ps4 guy, he showed an incredible amount of emotional maturity. He didn’t wait for it to get worse and worse, just recognized that his boundaries are being crossed and his actions are likely seeded in a lot of trust issues
taking the ps4 out of the equation: having your partner come home and take something out of your hands, then destroy it in front of you while someone stood by and recorded the moment. it could have been a coffee maker or a vacuum or whatever, that experience alone sounds absolutely traumatizing. i cannot imagine the mindset it takes for someone to preplan something like that, and not only be so caught up in their plan not to notice the distress you're causing someone, but to dismiss it in multiple conversations afterwards? that's nuts, i'm actually really glad he had the sense to get out of that relationship.
I completely agree. I was actually a little surprised that the guys didn’t understand that. Like, even if it all was just a complete misunderstanding and the gf now realizes why what she did was wrong, that’s not something that you just forget about and move on from. It’s not about the fact that it was a ps4, which is what they all fixated from. It’s about the complete lack of understanding, communication, and respect that you have to have for this to happen. And it’s also because she literally smashed his property to bits in front of him with a hammer. That’s actually scary, especially in the moment when you don’t understand what’s going on. That’s a moment when you realize your partner has the capacity for violence towards you or your things and you can never unsee it. If this happened to me I would probably do the same thing the bf did.
@@pohiaexactly. With that one action, she showed her boyfriend that he has a reason to be scared of her. The fact that she couldn’t understand that is mind boggling
Also imagine their faces, the 2 girls were probably smiling the whole time while destroying the ps4 and recording it. I feel a knot in my stomach even thinking about it. Absolutely traumatizing.
This!
agree. also buying someone an upgraded version of something does not give you a permission to destroy the older version, for god's sake. It sounds logical, and yet another simple concept that is difficult to grasp.
33:23 I KNEW it! I knew Damien must have backed up that data somehow. No way that Damien wouldn't kill Shayne for throwing away his golden cat!
I was happy to hear that... still genuinely shook. Lol
the only way to save in stardew is to go to sleep so they could have cut and gone back to make sure they had it
I thought so too because we would've gotten bloopers about how it went down and things were okay, but oh boy, this lore had stretched long enough - our hearts are content ❤
I was so relieved when I heard that! Every time I saw that clip it would make me so mad but now I can just just look at it and laugh and not feel the rath of the devil within me 😁
And it felt unreal that Shayne would do something like that so easily and with zero remorse. 😂
My ex was PASSIONATE about squishmallows. She knew all of their names, she owned over 200 of them, like it was her thing. Her whole family made fun of her for it and it really bothered her. I confronted her parents about it and they told me "you don't need to encourage her weirdness". I never did like her parents
My brother worked on Star Citizen for about a year, leaving the company after realizing that the entire project was an absolute shit show from the top to bottom. The fact that I know from the inside that this company is a joke that does nothing but use predatory practices to farm susceptible people willing to spend ungodly amounts of money, it makes it so incredibly sad to hear that these people have ruined their lives for such a business.
It’s shocking people are still buying that grift.
“This guy is 21” “Asshole” so true bestie
Haha, yeah! Misandry! Let's go queen!
@@lazardox8769misandry is based, actually
@@sillylittlecourtjesterbased isn’t a good thing
@@sillylittlecourtjester In order to counteract one issue in society, you don't have to take up the inverse version of that issue. An eye for an eye and all that.
@@lazardox8769 blah blah blah
Damien is honestly such a great guy - he is so clued into good communication, maturity in relationships, etc.
You can really tell that he is a good partner.
Yeah, Damian is definitely a mixed bag
About half the time he seems like such a genuine and decent guy, between his communication with cast members during games, and his personal stuff, so I definitely love him for that
But on the other hand, he has so many jokes that feel like a real life version of the Chosen
@@ohheyitsguyDamien is on the autism spectrum. I think what you're describing as "real life Chosen behavior" are likely signs of autism.
There are people out there who will accept and celebrate Damien as exactly who he is because he's definitely going to make a great partner.
remember you can't really know what someone is like behind closed doors - he'd probably say so too.
he does seem great - just beware the pedestal.
@@e_paige oh I fully agree.
I understand that no one I see online is my friend, and that they are humans capable of major things
I'm just saying that from we've been presented, he seems chill to hang around
I'd argue that everybody on smosh are pretty great people. Especially since Ian is a great guy, so naturally he'd hire good people.
The animal crossing one hurt my soul. I didn’t play it during the lockdown like everyone else did, but I started playing in 2022 when I moved to a completely new city and was at peak loneliness. It helped me through my transition and the game holds a special place in my heart. I did everything I could possibly do in the game and stopped playing it. A couple months ago, my niece moved in with me, and I made the decision to let her override my save file so that she could get comfort out of the game like I did when I first moved here. Honestly the decision to delete my island felt like a bittersweet closing of a chapter. It also felt really good to share the experience with her. It could’ve been such a sweet moment for the couple in the story.
The AC story crushed my soul because I too have lost SO many hours in AC (650+). I literally cried when I lost my switch on an airplane and nothing was backed up like I thought it was! losing so many hours is soul crushing and it's so hard to explain to someone who didn't play
Oh my gosh I totally feel you, I’m so sorry about your loss on your game! My brother did the same shit to me when he gave our switch to his girlfriend, I hope all goes well for you and you’ve gotten some of those hours back.
AC is also a life sim and so often a comfort game for most people who play. It was also one of the biggest releases at the start of the pandemic.
Plus the whole point of it is to find villagers you like and interact with them and build relationships to get a bestie. I would straight up be so devastated. So sorry this happened to ya:(
i 100% thought you were talking about Assassins Creed for a sec lmfao
27:47 A therapist once told me that we need to mourn a lot more things than we think. So it's awesome to hear Ian say that that man needed to mourn his Animal Crossing save file because that is exactly something that my therapist would have told me I needed to mourn. 700+ hours is a HUGE investment, it's not insignificant.
Granted I'm not going to mourn as intensely or as long as say a death of a family member, but I do need to take some time to process it all and mourn it.
It's really the first time I've ever heard someone else think the same way about mourning than I do. Wasn't expecting a feel trip from Smosh Pit on a Saturday lmao 😂
Getting a new console is always a mourning process for me since up until recently you haven't been able to always play the same games or transfer the data. Its always bittersweet because YAY NEW GAMES but also boooo bye save files... 🫠
It reminds me of that Make Some Noise bit about grief
Yeah I agree. Someone's 700 hour save file is 700 hours of hard work and memories. Like an interactive photo album almost, especially for a game like Animal Crossing.
i put way too much stock on material things but i can't help it lol they are physical reminders of things, my memory is fallible lmao
It’s a great perspective and like that’s a societal problem that we quantify grief and love and things like that, comparing one thing to another when it doesn’t need to be compared. Just experience it as it is.
God I love when Damiens on this, he's just so emotionally intelligent and aware; his view on things and his for lack of a better word; empathy for everyone is just infectious and gives me some faith back in humanity. I'm working hard on reaching that level of emotional intelligence, really awesome to see.
I completely agree. I literally have been taking pointers from him as I can. I couldn't have said this better myself!
Damien is my favourite on Reddit stories, besides Poppa Shayne ofc 😂
It is a treat.
He's also just really doing great on the jokes this ep
Duuuude pls tell my old therapist you said an autistic person has great empathy. She didn't think I was autistic bc I'm too empathetic 😂 It's just the sense of justice doing its thing!!!
as someone with a highly addictive personality it is very nice to see a segment of adults talking about their own struggles with video game addiction and the things they’ve done to work through it
The PS4 thing is like, I'm an avid reader, and that's like if she burned all my books to give me a kindle. I'd lose my mind.
I’m an old (58) lady and love this show and especially this combination of people. They are all so empathetic and emotionally in tune. Refreshing to see young men (or any men) who are so thoughtful and insightful.
Men have always been this way, men built this world and alot of it is based on empathy, i just watched Oppenheimer, shows you how a man wanted to exceed the boundaries of science and wanted it axed on the bases that it would be used to hurt people that shouldn't have been hurt. These stories are everywhere and are usually hidden from sight because most people dont go seeking validation for kind acts, they just do it so its done.
@@alteredchallenge9318”men built this world” homie read a book please
bro listened to one too many alpha male podcasts 💀
@@crem-crem4070I mean he's not wrong. I studied history in highschool, college and took a few courses in uni. Women had a large hand of course but for most it was built by men.
@@lunsettabee i watch a lot of history documentaries and i prefer objective truth, theres always a risk that our history has been altered in order to bend the absolute truth but the common trend especially in the last few centuries is that overly ambitious, almost psychopathic and greedy men and mens war have often progressed our technology and infrastructure. If this wasn't true then women's suffrage was a lie and would be a lie today wouldn't you agree. You can't use the exception to the rule as the defining rule, women have made great achievements through history but only a handfull have held power, power to change the very existence of human integrity.
That being said men have always held empathy because its empathy that creates rebellion when a man of power is unjust, anger too is a subset of empathy, to see your entire people slaughtered it makes you sad and angry to a point where you want to fight so it wont happen to fellow villagers, sometimes you stop, sometimes you become so infused with rage that you become the monster you were fighting and the cycle forever continues.
Oh my gosh... the story of the partner smashing the PS4 is actually making me cry. Not mostly at the loss of the item, or even the work put into it, but the fact that he lost interest in gaming in general, and a hobby that brought so much joy to him has been tainted with shock, trauma, loss, grief over their partnership, etc.
Ugh.
Please remember people, PRANKS SHOULD CONFUSE AND AMUSE, NOT ABUSE.
My heart to OP.
When a prank forces someone to lose interest in a hobby because it brought him/her trauma, you know it's bad. What once gave them joy in the past now has a very negative connotation that they'd like to forget. To the ex that did this awful prank, don't believe everything you see on the internet. Your action did not match the intention. OP deserves a better person than this monster. 😢
Truly,@@andycanoy863
Ugh my heart is aching for this person.
For real. Could you imagine having a super hobby, like gaming, sewing, lego building, gardening, etc
Let's say it was legos, I can't imagine if someone came in and destroyed my old lego setups and then revealed that they got me some new lego sets.... Uhm...
My heart would be broken in so many ways. @@andycanoy863
Agreed. I'd be livid if a SO thought it'd be okay to destroy something I cared about for a "viral" video. The level of cruelty and disregard for OP's feelings in general is appalling.
@@TheOneTrueErica How dumb was the ex to think that a "prank" video she saw on the internet that involved breaking stuff was a great idea to do when presenting an expensive gift to her ex partner? Why is it do damn hard to just to do a simple gift presentation that didn't involve destruction of personal property? Not everything has to be so outlandish and extravagant. It's the thought that counts.
1:01:00 It's like burning down someones childhood home and giving them a new house.
The lore drop about the golden statue is insane 😭😭 I remember when it happened I was so heartbroken for Damien im finally at peace knowing it wasn't lost 😂🤯
Ian and Damien are a super underrated duo in general but especially on reddit stories. I love watching the chaos gremlins be thoughtful and introspective.
I don’t think I would classify Damien as a chaos gremlin. He’s always very thoughtful and empathetic. Angela is a chaos gremlin.
@@shelleyandrews5167 both can be true. Damien does have chaos gremlin tendencies.
@@shelleyandrews5167 What're Those?! Would count toward a perfect example of how much of a chaos gremlin Damien can be LOL
We always talk about Damiens high empathy and Shayne has it too. But with reddit stories opposed to other videos- I feel we see how Ian is actually A LOT more empathetic then we’ve all been led to believe. Sometimes he says some really insightful things on this show and I go “woah. I never about ___soandso before.”
😂❤
Just the idea of a partner walking in with a sledge hammer and destroying anything, no matter what, would be enough to lose trust and not feel safe in your home and shared space anymore.
And that was out of “love,” according to her. Imagine what she'd be willing to do when upset, not having basic empathy.
I have a really shitty car. It was my first car, had it for years, and needs to be replaced as it's on its last leg. Even with all that in mind; I would be heartbroken and shattered if my gf just bashed it in and replaced it with even my dream car. Although it's on its way out, I have so many precious memories with that car. Walking up and destroying something like that isn't only breaking your partner's trust: it is also removing their agency over their own memories/possessions.
I'm glad they broke up to be honest. It hopefully teachers her that such an act has no place in a relationship. I'd be scared to have kids with her. Parents who destroy their kids' prized posessions is one of the most anxiety inducing things a child can face to me.
Yeah, that, and also the "part of me" is not just about it being a gaming console. I play games and do crafts and would have the same reaction if either of those hobbies was disrespected and destroyed like that. It's not about what it is, it's about something you had that you took time to create, and the person who's supposed to be your most loved one just destroyed it. It's fair he broke up.
Also the "I just wanted to see you happy" is bullshit. Sure, maybe she didn't want to post it for clout, but the fact that she was ok with hurting him first is insane. It's like those "pranks" where someone supposedly dies, it's not nice. There's something twisted in you if you think something like this is ok.
The thing people missed too is he was talking about completing the games as in 100%. Im assuming Platinum trophies. It meant a lot because he was a completionist. So his PS4 was essentially a log of his achievements that he can never get back.
Damien's "Oop, lost everything! 🤷♂️" joke went under the radar and was very funny 😂
47:59 DAMN YOU, IAN ... I'VE MANAGED TO NOT LOSE THE GAME FOR OVER HALF A DECADE NOW, YOU MADE ME LOSE MY STREAK, DAMN YOU!!
Thank you so much for tagging a time. I've seen so many people mention loosing the game, and I figured that it was from someone saying something but I could not for the life of me figure out what it was!!
Regarding game addiction: when I was little my mom taught me something called "losing your balance" bc of our family's addictive personality. When I'd get something like a headache or anxiety from gaming too much she'd say "that's from losing your balance", so I started very carefully watching to make sure where the line was. She didn't really physically stop me much bc of my home situation, but it has made me such a healthy adult with knowing my limits
Your mom sounds like a barber surgeon from the 1300s
@@danielgray142this is so niche i love it
I love that analogy. I have an addictive personality so I make sure to toe the line in any new thing, and periodically check in to see how my life is balancing with that certain aspect in the mix. Your mom made a good move teaching that to you young.
@@danielgray142 it definitely has the same vibes as "the humours are unbalanced" but with probably less bloodletting and leeches 😅
That's awesome. I love hearing stories of parents educating their children on mental health
1:07:08 she broke his trust completely and then was cold about it. In that moment his whole world came crashing down and his perception of her changed forever
Yeah, i think the biggest issue that made it irreparable is that she was so flippant and dismissive about him being upset. Instead of her immediately jumping to "oh god im so sorry i really miscalculated! i didnt realize that id be destroying game data. im so so sorry!" (which i imagine the majority of people would do if they saw how upset he was) she IMMEDIATELY went and became defensive. Both her and her friend just acted like he was ungrateful instead of being able to go "oh damn we messed up big time!". I think that that response on her part gives a lot of insight into how she values his feelings.
Also someone willing to bring a hammer into an apartment to smash something for no reason, even if it was for a video, sounds like serial killer to me
@@shanemiller1182 That was my first thought, not the gaming system, but "She walked in...with a hammer..." I had to relisten to hear what she broke because I was busy thinking about the hammer. I then had to wonder, okay, what's next?
It is for sure a red flag that she was so easily convinced to destroy something with that level of violence. Honestly, destroying things is often the first thing when it comes to violent people, I don't mean to assume but it's very concerning that she did that
Right and even if he had saved stuff and she knew that she still destroyed it in the middle of him playing a game. Anyone would be mad if someone interrupted their gaming time. He was trying to have a conversation with her while playing the game
As somebody who has spent hundreds on a mobile game, I appreciate the delicacy in discussing gaming/spending addiction. And understanding everyone has different thresholds/tipping points for addiction, as well as obviously vices. It was really validating and I appreciate it. ❤
34:36 I’m so happy he didn’t actually throw away that cat I always hated that clip lol
“Phrases that will break a Victorian child’s mind” was so good 😂😂
This line broke me 😂😂😂
I don't get it but I want to. What does it mean?
@@tiegan7158 They mean getting a child who born during the Victorian era (around 1840's-1900's) and telling them the story to confuse them. The joke is that the victorian child would obviously want to buy the spaceship because they wouldn't realise the spaceship wasn't real.
@@tiegan7158 Its a meme going round atm that essentially means that some of the things we talk about in modern life, like buying virtual spaceships in a video game like in this instance, would be so alien to a victorian child that it would break their mind.
@@tiegan7158an example that lots of people use for something “that would kill a Victorian child” was McDonald’s sprite, if that helps lol
59:16 Here’s a better analogy for destroying the ps4:
I’m an artist. Someone bought me a full set of dream materials, things i could create crazy dreams with.
So they destroy my entire body of work, all my paintings and drawings. Wouldn’t i want to just redo them with the better paint? Isn’t it kind of shitty for me to not be grateful?
Even if the files weren’t lost, that’s an emotionally and physically abusive act. She’s going to be even angrier if he flinches. Or doesn’t ever trust her again. Or doesn’t share anything about his inner world or life.
This is exactly it. Everyone has that "one thing" in their life that if you break it, you're out. Like, I'm a big Lego enthusiast. It's a toy, yeah, but it's MY hobby. I've been passionate about it since before I can remember. I have a collection that literally spans multiple decades. I'm 26 now and still build and collect. If someone, and I mean ANYONE, threw out my Lego collection without talking to me about it, they're out of my life. I wouldn't talk to them again. That's trust that's been broken, that's years of memories gone, that's money that's been lost, etc.
Everyone has something that, if destroyed, would break their trust in an instant. For that guy, it was his PS4.
Totally get it. I had been doing a floor to ceiling wall mural in hallway. It was done in multiple layers and detail work was done with fine line paint pens. It was something that I always wanted to do. It took a lot of time, worked on it in moments of free time. Long story short, it had to be painted over. What got me was the lack of understanding why I was so upset. Stopped painting after that.....
Exactly about the violence! That's a violent action - even if she had just come back to break worthless dollar store plates, that's violence, and I'd be horrified if my partner did that. I wouldn't feel safe around them again.
I’m an artist too and I was thinking the same thing
@@melissasharkey8632I’m so sorry that happened and that it took the joy out of painting for you. Obviously I don’t know any specifics of your situation but I hope you can find a way to enjoy it again
For the animal crossing story: I play the sims and I feel the same way. Although time moves faster, it takes time to build everything personally if you’re not using cheats and you’re really caring about the stories.
58:00 another casualty of fake prank culture
Tik tok has done irreparable damage to our society
Love to see Damien! Oh, and Chumbawamba's #1 fan!
He keeps getting back up again man!❤
Yeah, both of them enjoying big guy's reddit stories
I love seeing the support Chumbawamba’s #1 fan has for Chumbawanba
Shayne: I feel like my gaming life has been pretty peaceful
Shayne in Nidhogg: No no no, please, no! NOO!
Not Necessary Edit: this was supposed to be in the main comment section but it posted as a reply here. I thought my phone glitched out and did it again, and now I feel silly for essentially making the same joke twice in one video
What the what?
I love that Shayne hosts these as his responses are consistently measured and fair. But I especially love it whenever Ian, Damien, or Arasha are on as well. Their responses are always mature and compassionate and together with Shayne the episode is a wonderful wholesome thing even if the stories are out of this world.
Same and Amanda!
The best responses/judgements are from Courtney, Ian, Damien, Shayne, Arasha and SPENCER!! Always spot-on, nuanced and thoughtful takes. Honestly the whole cast and crew have had consistently good takes, can't say the same about some of the guests outside of smosh though 😬
@@abdullahkuzhan7247 I feel like courtney can be a bit hit or miss but agree with the others
Chanse, Damien, Spencer, Amanda, and Angela are my favs ❤
@@tmm4195 really? can you think of any specific examples? i've never noticed
1:07:28 i feel like it was more about trust than it was about the Playstation. She went to this extreme because of a video on tiktok. What other pranks would she pull on a whim just because? Thats probably what he's also thinking about. Is he going to be made a video prop in her life because she is into posting on social media? Once trust is broken its very hard to get it back.
Can we commend Damian for how emotionally intelligent and mature he is when he talks about relationships? Dude is just a genuine human being
The Animal Crossing story is the same as if someone spent 700hrs on a painting and their partner decided they wanted to start painting so they painted the canvas back to white😹😹 imagine coming home and something you've worked so hard on is just gone forever.
her mindset is "he hasn't looked at this painting for a while he won't mind of I destroy it and make my own"
@@adameltassi1268 exactly! If it's someone else's you should always ask that's common knowledge! 😹
I was going to use that analogy but you beat me to it.
@@nicolebesser3548 Great minds think alike!
I always use that analogy because I'm a painter and a gamer and have a lot of artist friends who aren't gamers
The bit where they were like "SHE'S DEAD" is going to live rent free in my head. I love Damien's laugh.
The thing is it's not actually about gaming usually. It usually is about either ignoring/neglecting your partner, lacking respect, bad communication, addiction or mental health.
Thats so sad. As a child i was obsessed with spongebob. Who isnt? 😅 and that obsession went into adulthood. Once i got my first job at 18, i then would buy anything SpongeBob that i saw when i would go anywhere. Plushies. Playing cards. Chocolates. Clothes. Anything lol. I would collect the entire cast 😂 i loved it and was so proud of it. I had a book shelf covered with stuff. For years. And my little siblings ruined it one day. Devastated me. So i threw it all out and never collected anything again. But at the time, i could care less who made fun of me. But really no one did but my mother of course ugh. But my friends thought it was adorable. When they would see something at a random store they would buy & give it to me to help add to my collection because they knew how happy it would make me. When i came home to find it destroyed, it broke my spirit. I would love to start another collection someday. But the thought of all that work to be followed by loss, saddens me. I learned that day to not care about items. But more on people. Which im glad for. Now i could care less when things get broken. It happens. Nothing is meant to last forever. But man i wish i still had that collection. Im 30 now. I can imagine how enormous it would be today 😂 but yea, fuck what people think lol duh! Do what makes u happy. Thats what life is about 💯 ❤
56:55 The timing of Ian getting up and walking off as Shayne reads about Op walking away was perfect
Zactly
Damien’s expression in that moment is flawless
About the guy with the PS4, I think a point that wasn’t discussed it’s the “violence” fact. Like I would be disturbed if out of nowhere my partner smashes my switch (even if it’s a surprise, there’s an element of destruction) that would make me reconsider their behavior for future situations. I don’t think he was in the wrong from broken up with her tbh.
That's a really great point! That would be a scary moment to be in - someone loudly destroying your property with a hammer, and you have no idea where this behavior is coming from, if it's going to escalate, why they brought someone with them while they do this... that's a chilling moment. Even if he could rationalize the situation later, I would imagine his feelings of "this is a safe and predictable person" would have changed at a gut level. I can see why, even if he was able to understand her point of view, this was so upsetting he couldn't move past it.
This was my first thought. If I (woman) was with a man who burst out into physical violence one day, whether it’s against an object or a person, I’m leaving before it’s me. And even if he never hits me, the trust that he won’t is gone. I won’t feel safe.
Excatly, that moment would be so scary. My first thought would be "wtf is happening?" and second "what will they attack/do next?" And I don't know if I'd ever be able to get over that fear. To be fair, I grew up in an abusive home so my constant reality was waiting for the moment someone would suddenly snap and fearing what they might do, and I think experiencing what happened in the reddit story would send me right back there and I would leave as soon as I felt i safely could.
Omg same, I wonder what expression she had when she did it because so many expressions could make it just worse
Yup! And then her dismissing and downright trying to gaslight him! Seriously, he dodged a bullet!
With the pokemon - my husband has loved pokemon since he was 8. He has a huge card collection. I thought it was cool and we totally still go out playing pokemon go. and it was a great way for him to connect to our kids as they got older - safe for kids and something he enjoys already. A few years ago we decorated the house for his birthday with pokemon table cloths and wallhangings. It was such a fun birthday! Pokemon has become a family fandom. ❤😊
The Pokemon story had me out loud muttering, "dude, if she is too much, go find yourself less!"
I did a doubletake when the OP in the second story claimed Pokemon was childish and then said with his full chest he enjoys Minecraft. Like my dude, I've known multiple kids under 10 years old through my job and family who are OBSESSED with Minecraft. Nothing wrong with liking Minecraft as an adult, but talk about throwing a boulder through your glass house man. I'm glad he realized the errors of his ways though.
Ian saying "fucking idiot" is just so satisfying?? I think it was how it was the most genuine reaction
I know right!!!?? I was upset when I heard what the ex-gf did and I'm sure Ian was too.
Calls em how he sees em
I would fully watch a 24 hour charity video where they play CIV
For the second story, I work in biotech and we talk about Pokémon and anime all the time! We love all the classic nerdy shit
The PS4 attack was completely unhinged, and I fully get why something like that would end a relationship, just for the violence of it all. HOWEVER: the melodrama of saying "everything is broken now, just like my PS4" is very funny to me.
Yeah I can get why it’s questionable tho. But he simply couldn’t look at her the same, a singular event can do that as dumb as that sounds
@@xxbulbaSAUCE right, im like if i destroyed your purse you've had for 4 years cuz I got you the new version, id guarantee you not a single girl on earth would be okay. Destroying stuff is never a good surprise
@@flashbacker8935….holy false equivalencies, Batman! First off, old purses are no where near the same as a PlayStation filled with games and save files and no normal woman would view it as such
Have you EVER talked to a woman?
@@crem-crem4070You completely missed the point. Plenty of women would rightfully break up with a guy for destroying their favorite purse they've had for years. And if something as "small" as that would cause it, all the easier to understand the same for a PS4
Also people don't always value things the same. Shayne in this video says how a PS4 doesn't matter much to him.
@@LordVader1094 ehhhh if you replaced my oldest purse with a newer version of it I probably wouldn’t mind. Because it’s a PURSE, I have a dozen others and most are easily replaced.
The girlfriend destroying the ps4 is crazy. Imagine doing that with another hobby, like your boyfriend does pottery and you just SMASH the nice tea set he finally finished and you tell him "but look, I got you a new one I bought and it was very expensive" then, when he tells you he put his heart into the other one you tell him "well, you can just do make it again right?".
Im 100% with the dude for breaking up. it is so over the line I would have be furious.
I had a bf smash my ps4 once, it’s heartbreaking. I had it for over 5 years, I got another one two years later but moved on to Xbox by then, I still can’t get back in to ps after that.
It's a bit different I think. I think she legitemately did not know that she was destroying his savegames and just thought there would be no reason to keep the old one when she got him the PS5. The result is still the same but intent matters. Does it matter enough? Ultimately his desicion to make.
@@lezorn Oh she probably didn't think she was doing anything wrong, but I still think that destroying someone else's property without asking, no matter the intent behing it, is insane.
@@lezorn It's not at all different.
Its disregarding someones time and effort cause its "not a big deal." She was LITERALLY doing it for clout.
1:05:56 His reaction to the fact that the guy in the story is done with gaming 😂
That’s so sad bro. She completely removed a piece of his personality that he may never get back. He might not ever be the same person again
i mean "i want a ring" is the classic cult speech of someone in the jaws of the de beers diamond company because engagement rings are only like 100 years old
I meanI want a ring but its because we had a talkand he could get a plastic one, Id still be insanely grateful
"A Dragon ate her!"
Damian(Voice of Laios) Haas: "If i had a nickel"
aaa i got that
Wth I didnt realizw he's Laios voice actor
HE IS?!?! Woa
Omg literally what, i had to go back and listen, thats wild
ahhh now i get it thankss
I think what gets me about the PS4 smashing story is that after multiple times of him trying to explain it to her, she dismisses it until he's on his way out... Like after the first or second time he tried to explain, even if I didn't get it, I would still say sorry and try to make it up to him because I could see that it effected someone I loved a lot.
I think that's why he didn't want to stay. Even if she couldn't understand, she didn't even try to empathize or make it better until she understood. Sometimes it's better to see that you did wrong and fix it and then try to understand why it was wrong before doing something about it.
This! You shouldn't have to understand to be respectful of the other persons feelings.
And re: “trying to understand” - if you are deciding it will only ‘make sense’ or ‘be a reasonable feeling to feel’ if it makes sense to you according to your personal logic and values, you’re being an a-hole. If it hurt someone, ask for THEIR logic and reasoning. Understand it from the point of view of their values. You don’t get to decide whether they are “allowed” to feel that or if they’re being “irrational.”
An example from interacting with my dad: “Well *I* don’t get upset if someone insults me to my face, therefore if you have a problem with it you’re being a baby. Where’s the problem. I don’t understand”
Stupid is so often not smart
Exactly!! It was starting to bother me watching the guys discuss this and be unsure about OP’s decision to break up over this. They kept boiling it down to “breaking a PS4” when OP said in his post that he was breaking up with her for not being able to empathize with why that made him upset.
It’s not about how important a ps4 is to any given person, it’s about if your partner can understand and recognize they unintentionally hurt you and can apologize. And she couldn’t, so he broke up with her.
Some people think that if they had good intentions, they don't have to apologize. I've met people like that. Now, I'd rather deal with someone who has good intentions rather than people who have bad intentions. But the ability to empathize is key for healthy relationships. She had no ill will, but that's not a "get out of accountability" card. She should feel bad, and she should apologize.
I love you, Damien! Seeing you on the Reddit videos always makes me happy. Your insight is always valuable.
20:27 Don't mind me, just time-stamping my favorite part of the video
That Animal Crossing one is PAINFUL dude. I'm really glad Damien and Shayne pointed out that it's not about the game so much as it's about the lack of patience and consideration to ask permission first. Like Damien said, for a lot of people who don't play games it might seem silly because they don't take games seriously, but I think independently deciding to destroy something of your partner's - especially something irreplaceable that they invested so much time into - is a red flag that should be understandable to anyone. You don't get to decide how much sentimental value something "should' have to a person, even if you can't relate to it.
I have a Skyrim save that I haven't touched in probably 10 years. At this point chances are I'll never play it again, but that save file is going to live on my Steam cloud forever because it holds memories for me, even if those memories happened in a virtual world.
The husband losing interest and how the girlfriend disappeared for the week; the update is heartbreaking. This is exactly what was happening behind my back with my ex, he’d be talking to girls on discord, playing games with them 24/7 and sometimes I’d wake up in the middle of the night and hear them flirting. One time he kicked me out the house we lived in because I found out and I came back to him muting the mic on a call with her at convenient moments to keep us both happy and for neither of us to leave him.. there’s so many horrific stories with him that I could spend all day writing about but I’m so glad to be away from that now but holy sh!t the feeling I got hearing this story was a big PTSD moment, I hope the girl is feeling better now, those men are a waste of space.
Makes it worse that they were actually married
Literally had the same thought about this, it was the entirety of my last relationship.
yep he's either developed an addiction or he's suffering from severe depression and disassociating for long periods of time without realizing how many days have passed... either way he's got some issues and it's not up to her to fix them
This episode was super interesting. I was already biased to like it from the start, but damn, top quality. Also, Damien is an inspiration for how empathetic and emotionally intelligent he is.
“700 hours of gameplay?? I can’t even imagine how long that took” has me dying 😭
As someone who's struggled just to keep a roof over my head, that last one made me so angry. Flushing a down payment for a house down the toilet basically, being able to make that much in under a year, then flushing it again. Just give me your money and I'll draw you a picture of a space ship.
$15,000 is a life changing amount of money for me. I can't imagine just throwing that away. I'm so angry on her behalf
@@reptiqueen7275 $15k is what some people make in a year, it's insane for it to just disappear like that, especially considering OP probably downplayed the amount and went on to spend another thousand or so in the update post.
@@reptiqueen7275 it clearly wasn't life-changing for her, or she wouldn't have given him the "no ships for 6 months" ultimatum. Still a dick thing to do, but she clearly wasn't as impacted by it as most of us would've been
Op had updated around a month ago saying he’s in unrecoverable debt and might lose his apartment and is already losing his job. A lot of gambling addicts spend money that they don’t really have.
@@beafraid5467jesus. It's undercut by the fact that it's spaceships in a video game but he is seriously addicted to it. I hope he kicks it because he might have found the absolute worst game to whale on.
Bro the girl that busted the PS4. I just can’t.
That’s like walking into someone’s art studio, destroying everything in it. The art, tools, equipment, furniture, etc, and then being like “guess who got you a new art studio!!” Like wtf did she think was going to happen?
I just compare it to my art, I’ve got a sketchbook as well as an art tablet, I’ve spent hours and/or days on my digital art and sometimes just as much in my sketchbook. I’d be devastated if someone burned my sketchbook or smashed my art tablet, sure a “better” one is nice but I’ve put hours into my work, work that most of the time isn’t saved and I’ll never get that back, honestly I think I’d just drop the pen atp as it would absolutely break my heart.
Yeuuuuuuup
Not to mention ALL HIS save data is just gone now and cannot be transferred
I would have left her too, honestly
I completely understand the PS4 guy. I've had similar things happen and while the initial event hurts the way the person who did it acts afterwards can make or break the way you view them from then on. Acknowledgement and an apology can be all that's needed to fix the situation, but if they completely disregard the affect it has on you, then... Yeah...
Damian is so well spoken and mature - he makes us goofy gamers look good!
As a DV survivor and going through some scary stuff atm, when Shayne said 53:57
Hoping things go well!
That PS4 story was really sad. His girlfriend destroyed not only his PS4, but his memories with it, the relationship and his passion for videogames. That is insanely upsetting, losing passion for something you've loved for many years.
he didn't evem lose passion lol
@@highdefinition450Did you not watch the full thing or what
Agree. How thick headed do you have to be to not to see that destroying someone's property is f--ked up and what worst is that based on his reaction she still had not sympathy. Like it's ok you don't understand/get his hobby but when you literally destroy it and have to explain it like she's a 5-8 years old, is messed up. Me, I would take the PS5 and also make her buy me a new PS4.
@@oldmanmichaeljShe also thought a TikTok prank was real and not staged, leading to this whole mess.
She may be stupid lol
THE LORE DROP WAS UNEXPECTED but honestly very enlightening to me. i was watching at the time of that damien and shayne show back in 201whatever and i was like "damn... are they gonna need to have a talk about that?" I'm glad no real cats of endless fortune were harmed
1:09:07 this story hurt to hear, the dude lost a passion from it and had to end his relationship, devastating to here.
Another thing about the amulet of Mara. It’s a symbol to let people know you’re LOOKING for marriage. Not a tradition symbol for being married but actually being single and actively looking for a partner.
Yea, once you’re married don’t you still get a ring called like the ‘bond of matrimony’ or something 😅
@@evelynsparrow6528 He would still need a ring in the end.
A ring also let's other people know you're taken, because not everyone meets their SO on a Skyrim memepage
Never played Skyrim. Googled the amulet and it's exactly how Damien described it, a big ass medallion with a Celtic knot and a turquoise stone in the middle.
While it might be a thoughtful and sweet gesture, I can DEFINITELY see why she is also asking for a ring
@@martinchiarelli2582Yeah most people would see the amulet as a neopagan thing, not like a sign of being married
The ps4 smashing was so violent and unprompted that it could easily be seen as spousal abuse. That it came with a bribe afterwards doesn't undo the trauma
Apparently sitting down and having an actual civilized conversation instead of going straight to violence takes so much brain power that an old computer can process.
Whether you did as a joke, surprise, or otherwise, it makes you SUS. There are better ways to present someone with a gift but she chose an outlandish method that had a low percentage of making her partner happy.
The bribe after abuse is actually extremely common in domestic violence situations. This was a gigantic red flag.
@@claytonreeves150 Felt so bad for the guy. Small frustrations or annoyances in any relationship is one thing but it takes one major incident to change the entire situation forever. Unsalvageability; very high.
@@claytonreeves150definitely weird she thought it would be funny to record his reaction and that the gift would automatically make any feelings he had go away. It’s a good thing he made her realize it was messed up.
Thats so terrifying
31:43 the fact that no one on that Reddit comment said what Damien did is surprising 😂
Damien is a level of wholesome and chill that I never knew I adored until finding this channel!
With the smashed PS4 story: I still have my childhood XBOX 360. I’ve had it since 2006, it came with me when I went to college. I spilled a glass of wine in the ports and thought it was done for, but after leaving it on its side for about a month (I was too scared to turn it on) it still works perfectly. It’s been through the majority of my life with me. It’s an almost 20 year old console. My dad taught me how to play video games on that console. There were times when everything in my life was extremely turbulent and distressing, but for those few hours when I could just sit down and play Viva Piñata, I could just exist and be okay.
If someone smashed it right in front of me, I don’t know if I could ever speak to them again. I certainly wouldn’t ever trust them again. My heart goes out to that guy.
It’s one of those things where even if you don’t log onto it for months or years at a time, it holds so many memories that the second you boot it back up you will be right where you left off. Genuinely broke my heart.
I had my husband buy me a $20 ring cause I lose jewelry so often. He passed 2 years ago and it's the one piece of jewelry I've never lost for a moment.
i'm sorry to hear that he's passed but that's so sweet... also you did with that ring what my dad should've done. he managed to put his wedding ring in such a "safe place" we've yet to find it. really beautiful that you've not lost yours 🩷
Shayne: Gaming in my life has been pretty peaceful.
Damien, probably: *flashback to Stardew Valley*
im always so interested on how shayne will be like dang why doesn't person B just not be defensive as if that's not a natural reaction
Adding to the "childish interests" convo in the second story - a lot of people who had unstable childhoods were forced to grow up FAST, and often weren't allowed, or didn't allow themselves, to enjoy things made for children when they were children. When they seek these things out as an adult, they are healing from that trauma. I'm not saying every 35 year old taking themselves on a fun trip to Build-A-Bear Workshop is an abuse survivor, but indulging your inner child is a legitimate therapy method. The child that you were doesn't disappear when you turn 18. You can repress them and deny them comfort, but that child will always be a part of you. The sooner you accept that, the sooner you can embrace everything that you are, and you'll be less likely to judge other adults for watching cartoons and playing with Legos.
Dude. The revelations I just had with this comment. I cannot wait to talk about it with my therapist. 😂
haha I'm glad my words resonated with you! I hope therapy goes well! @@jennaloesch
it doesn't even have to be that complicated lol this shit is fun and they're adults, they can do whatever the fuck they want and you're an asshole for judging the things they like lmao. plus, pokemon and anime and shit is cool now, some of the biggest personalities online like these things lol
This makes me think of the short story ‘Eleven’ by Sandra Cisneros.
‘What they don't understand about birthdays and what they never tell you is that when you're eleven, you're also ten, and nine, and eight, and seven, and six, and five, and four, and three, and two, and one. And when you wake up on your eleventh birthday you expect to feel eleven, but you don't. You open your eyes and everything's just like yesterday, only it's today. And you don't feel eleven at all. You feel like you're still ten. And you are --underneath the year that makes you eleven.’
People gave Michael Jackson a ton of shit for acting childish and having an amusement park at his house. But the guy had no childhood and was abused by a POS father.
1:14:24 the look on Damien’s face is so real. It’s like he’s watching the world crack into a billion little pieces. Whatever remained of his soul is now gone and he didn’t even get to say goodbye
1:06:20 he doesn't want to GAME anymore? Oof! That hurts! 😔
Someone tell Damian Haas that he did a great job on his voice acting role in FF7 Rebirth 😁
I understand the quitting gaming after all those hours and memories destroyed from the PS4. I'm an artist and lost the desire/drive to draw for 2 full years, when all of my collection of art, sketchbooks, and supplies were disrespectfully thrown out by family members during my parents' messy divorce. Shit like that literally BREAKS you, and it makes it incredibly hard to find the enjoyment in it again. . . At least for a long while, in my experience 💔
I'm sorry that happened to you, to lose that sense of security sounds unsettling
10:14 As a person who’s special interest is Yu-Gi-Oh and has a huge collection of merch from the show, I feel so bad for that girl. Her boyfriend cares more about what others think than what makes his girlfriend happy. The second he heard them making fun of her he should’ve defended her, not agreed with them.. I’m glad he stood up for her in the end and tried being part of her interest 💜
I have my Doctor who Sonic screwdriver collection displayed in our bedroom, along with my grogu ( baby yoda) dolls / soft toys ( I have several) and my lego mini figures . I'm a happily married woman (44 years old.) My husband has all our games and gaming consoles displayed in our bedroom, too . we are a geek /nerd /gamer household, and we encourage our kids to embrace their hobbies and not be ashamed to let their nerd flag fly.
I love Yu-Gi-Oh, admittedly only the first generation of it but damn it was a good story, I loved the Dark side of Dimensions movie! Got kind lost with all the new cards but oh well lol
Eyyy, twinsies! I was scrolling through Etsy merch while listening to that story. I'm telling myself to wait before I splurge on some glass coasters that are casts of different cards 😎
I have a Bulbasaur collection and look forward to using it as a litmus test for future partners 😂
How you gonna talk shit about someone in their own house? If they make fun of her, tell them to stop cuz it's rude.
43:20 setting this comment so people can find Shayne's take on gaming addiction and healthy boundaries you have to set for yourself sometimes. He talks about his addiction to WoW and his policy with types of games he allows himself to play.
I have never even played Animal Crossing and my soul broke in half hearing the 700 hour save story
the damien and shayne show callback healed a part of my soul, that show means so much to me
Something to be mentioned with the ps4 story is that causing your partner intentional pain emotional or otherwise, with the intent of being the person who makes them feel better, is manipulation and abuse. It is a tactic often used by narcissistic people. I wouldn't be surprised if the family pointed out other instances where shed done similar things that might have affected his decision to leave. My ex admitted to intentionally making me cry so he could cheer me up. He thought it was sweet. Its a tactic to get them to see you as the hero, the savior, the person they trust when really they are the one causing the pain in the first place.
This is such a good point. My ex did the same thing. It gets tiring once you know the charade and they get pissed/dismissive if you don't give the reaction they're trying to milk out of you. Like you said, the person purposefully causing you pain should not be the same person you go to to feel better. Took a long time to learn.
Terrifying. I'm so sorry that happened to you and hope you're happier now
THIS
Damien has quickly become my favorite. I could watch him on every reddit video
27:29 this story made me wanna play animal crossing again. i had a villager that i kicked out but i felt so bad abt it that i cried & forced my mom to move him into her village so he wouldn’t be lost in the void lol