what does German speech laws have to do with the rest of Europe? You do understand we are individual countries with our own laws right? Doesn't seem like such a bad idea to supress the potential of another Hitler in the country that broke half the planet only 80 years ago to be honest, but hey, rights and all that.
@@gshoots4357 It’s textbook American exceptionalism. They don’t understand that more people outside of the United States would have wanted JBL charged.
Bruce Pritchard coming off as a racist Nazi himself based on how he's defending JBL. The stupidity of this conversation is beyond annoying. There was no reason for JBL to do this and this is in addition to the garbage he pulled off without any consequence including bullying, and all the harassment he pulled over younger wrestlers.
Whoa!!! JBL was 36 in them photos? Is that how people see me cuz im 37??? I think i still look like a youthful 19 year old. Sure, i might have a prescription for bluechew but that dont mean nothing.
@@rondoughhowell6442 most of them people weren't even alive then. Hell... they don't even teach their own history in their schools. Like it never... EVER... happened. Erased from world history I guess. REMEMBER! never forget.
@rondoughhowell6442 true. It's part of our history. Like it or not. I definitely do not agree with or side with the confederacy, but it is part of our history.
Why wasnt WWE HR telling wrestlers…… you are in Germany dont do X, Y and Z ??? You are in whatever other country and dont do A, B or C here. HR should have been fired.
God I love when Bruce gets butthurt over Meltzer. He actually tried to blame JBLs firing from CNBC on Meltzer? Like they would’ve never found out otherwise? I’m sure plenty of CNBC executives at the time were subscribers to the observer 🙄
These guys never did it once in America or Britain though? I think the reaction would be even worse if someone busted out a Nazi salute on a PPV in Madison square garden! 😂 They would have been attacked or started a riot and the media would have destroyed them!
Really absolutely nothing funny about it and no reason to do it. Dudes a moron, Bully, loudmouth, any other boss besides a weirdo like Vince McMahon and he woulda been out of a job long before this…
Kneepad Thompson. Gee-Zus. Why don't these guys "Please" go to any other podcast. " I wanna be one of the boys so bad" thompson is at this point a flip flopping windbag. PrIchard still comes across as a BS car salesman hanging off of McMahons sack.
Absolutely awful take from Conrad. ‘It was ‘in character’ so doesn’t count? Yeah, go and randomly attack and abduct people ‘in character’ and see where you end up.
Conrad is an absolute horrible host anyway he’s like the worst wrestling podcast host. He tries to be edgy and his opinions are usually bad. He thinks he’s smart to the business but he’s a big mark.
I'm curious why Bruce spent so much effort blaming Melzer. Could it be deflecting blame? For example, did WWE's top-notch legal team brief the wrestlers that doing any Nazi stuff was against the law in Germany? How about JBL using an outdated gimmick? Using the words of a former WWE employee, Bruce's griping about wrestling journalists gets tiresome.
JBL isn't a Nazi though? How many times has he or other WWE stars done that in America? The answer is zero! So don't do it overseas if you are too scared to do it in America!
It wasn't illegal. German Criminal Code (Section 86a, paragraph 3: "Subsection (1) _shall not be applicable if the means of propaganda or the act serves to_ further civil enlightenment, to avert unconstitutional aims, _to promote art_ or science, research or teaching, reporting about current historical events or similar purposes." This exemption applies to actors. You don't know what the hell you're talking about.
It's absolutely ridiculous that he got fired over this. Everyone is so quick to point out how "fake" wrestling is but continue to treat it as real. Should Ralph Fiennes find himself out of work permanently because he portrayed Amon Goth in Schindler's List? Christoph Waltz did was frighteningly good as fictional nazi Hans Landa. Should he lose work too? Pro wrestling is the only form of entertainment that gets treated like it's real by people who call it fake. It's no different than a tv show or movie.
Bad comparison. Jbl's real name is John Layfield..its not like an actor in a film being a nazi. His character is not a German or a Nazi or Nazi sympathiser. He's also performing infront of a live crowd! In Germany, infront of Jewish people and others affected. Imagine a big theatre production like hamlet performing in London and America and Europe then when they get to Germany one of the supporting actors starts going off script doing the Nazi salute to get a bigger reaction. It's more like that and John rightly paid for it. The guys a bully and a moron anyway so he deserved it.
@@Bang-bangBart Wrestling isn't real, just like Movies & TV Shows aren't real. We can agree on that right? JBL is a performer playing a character, no different than the two men listed.
It wasn't. German Criminal Code (Section 86a, paragraph 3: "Subsection (1) _shall not be applicable if the means of propaganda or the act serves to_ further civil enlightenment, to avert unconstitutional aims, _to promote art_ or science, research or teaching, reporting about current historical events or similar purposes." This exemption applies to actors.
so jbl, a well known bully in the wwe,gave the nazi salute in effort to get heat.he got so much heat he lost his job? an here is bruce sounding like he is making excuses for him..an getting his panties in a wad over the situation.bruce himself says it should of never happened..i agree it should never have.just a silly observation here from me is all.
It still strikes me as odd that humanoids who would claim to know that “rasslin’s fake” and so on get upset about a guy playing the role of a bad guy would say and do bad things. Yeah, it was a poor decision and since Germany has laws that strongly limit their national history, I could see the gummint expressing a problem with it, maybe a fine and apology.
Jbl was awful. Poorest era of wrestling ever with champs like Jbl, swagger, del Rio, Khali, Sheamus. All mid card talent at best in any other era. Jbl was awful period.
Nope. German Criminal Code (Section 86a, paragraph 3: "Subsection (1) _shall not be applicable if the means of propaganda or the act serves to_ further civil enlightenment, to avert unconstitutional aims, _to promote art_ or science, research or teaching, reporting about current historical events or similar purposes." This exemption applies to actors. You don't know what the hell you're talking about.
1:38 Wait! What?! he was 36 years old?! Dude looked legit 46! AND HE LOOKED OLDER 10 YEARS PRIOR TO THAT!
Drinking constantly ages you fast
they didn't fire jbl for bullying
So Conrad rocks back and forth on all conversations
Chair is made of Vibranium.
JBL vs Cena was perfection.
I was at the show. Funny thing is Booker T did it too
Kayfabe is Kayfabe until it's not Kayfabe. Unless it's Kayfabe. And in that instance, it's Kayfabe.
Right 😂
"No charges filed" tell me again Europeans have the same rights as Americans. Holy shit.
The Germans take that shit very seriously. They don’t give a flying fuck about your rights if you do anything that glorifies the Nazis.
They don't
what does German speech laws have to do with the rest of Europe? You do understand we are individual countries with our own laws right? Doesn't seem like such a bad idea to supress the potential of another Hitler in the country that broke half the planet only 80 years ago to be honest, but hey, rights and all that.
@@gshoots4357 It’s textbook American exceptionalism. They don’t understand that more people outside of the United States would have wanted JBL charged.
The “freedom” to act like a Nazi is a “freedom” I’m more than comfortable not having.
If Bruce Prichard was John’s manager or partner in the ring at the time, and it cost him his job, his opinion would be a lot more harsh!
Bruce Pritchard coming off as a racist Nazi himself based on how he's defending JBL.
The stupidity of this conversation is beyond annoying. There was no reason for JBL to do this and this is in addition to the garbage he pulled off without any consequence including bullying, and all the harassment he pulled over younger wrestlers.
I wonder why they may be sensitive to this in Germany conrad LOL
JBL shouldve broke out into "SPRINGTIME FOR HITLER".... I'm sure they would've liked that alot better....
That's perfect.
"It's springtime for Hitler and germany!!! Duetchland is happy and gay" I could most definitely see KBL break out into show tunes!!!
Probably not the best thing to do on his part! Let’s be honest, we all know better!
Whoa!!! JBL was 36 in them photos?
Is that how people see me cuz im 37??? I think i still look like a youthful 19 year old. Sure, i might have a prescription for bluechew but that dont mean nothing.
Lol I think most of us see ourselves as younger than we are. But some people do look older than others.
JBL also made "racially insensitive " remarks towards Eddie Guerrero being Mexican. Why wasn't CNBC outraged by that?
Yet JBL stopped all racial remarks all together after this incident...
@@pokerfacetv4644 because they don't like "mexicans"... or mexicants as they (probably) call them. Allegedly.
Part of the storyline. Eddie was in on it.
@@jamesdriskill5784 I loved the "racist" remarks. It made Eddie more popular.
Because you only get outrage when it's black people. Other forms of racism are okay in their books.
Why would you goose step in Germany? Idc kayfabe or not. That’s the wrong country to do that
cooperate Bruce
Very interesting, changing the thumbnail from a picture of what he actually did to a complimentary photo of him
Probably because he didnt want to get censors by YouRube
@@MrSheckstrOP is drunk on Sprite and Cheetos
It's not JBLs fault he did (German Bad Guy) salute and got fired by CNBC...it's Meltzer for reporting it!
ah Bruce finally admonishing something in poor taste
Conrad says he totally gets it, then says JBL's firing was silly.
No, he doesn't get it.
ok commie
He’s a dumbass.
Meltzer strikes again
It was silly. JBL isn't a Nazi, and German fans heard it all before.
@@deadpilled2942 it was silly and stupid
I think Brucey is still bitter Paul Boesch like Dave more than him.
'I was more of a son to him than Gino EVER was! Bwaaahh!'
This is so insane SORRY!
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. John should have known better.
well most people in Germany don't want to be reminded of the bad times in that country
They're just brainwashed. Communism was worse and more recent, yet they don't care about that.
@@rondoughhowell6442 most of them people weren't even alive then. Hell... they don't even teach their own history in their schools. Like it never... EVER... happened. Erased from world history I guess. REMEMBER! never forget.
@@almightyironhead25 well all over the south in some places they still have Confederate statues
@rondoughhowell6442 true. It's part of our history. Like it or not. I definitely do not agree with or side with the confederacy, but it is part of our history.
@@almightyironhead25 just like Hitler was part of German History
Why wasnt WWE HR telling wrestlers…… you are in Germany dont do X, Y and Z ??? You are in whatever other country and dont do A, B or C here. HR should have been fired.
When keeping it real goes wrong
Conrad rocking like a junkie is annoying!!
That how baseball go !
Bruce spends most of the clip rambling about Dave Meltzer, to the point where JBL goosestepping became almost secondary to him.
I wonder how many people also think that Arnold Swartzenecker is a killer cyborg from the future?
F JBL . A horrible human
I'm sorry that just wasn't a smart thing to do...Smh
I’m surprised someone hasn’t taken Meltzer out being so many hate him.
Good
He needed Sheiky to help get some heat .......DA HOOLLY WOOOD TAKEA DA MUNEY
God I love when Bruce gets butthurt over Meltzer. He actually tried to blame JBLs firing from CNBC on Meltzer? Like they would’ve never found out otherwise? I’m sure plenty of CNBC executives at the time were subscribers to the observer 🙄
Ya, I'm confused about what he thinks Meltzer did wrong here.
@@mikegeiler2347 it was idiot meltzer. It's ALWAYS idiot meltzer. That Jack asx is a CANCER to pro rasslin' and sports entertainment!!!
Prichard is a shitstain
Triple H used to do the same thing every time he was wrestling in Germany. Never understood why any of the was allowed to do it.
These guys never did it once in America or Britain though? I think the reaction would be even worse if someone busted out a Nazi salute on a PPV in Madison square garden! 😂 They would have been attacked or started a riot and the media would have destroyed them!
Really absolutely nothing funny about it and no reason to do it. Dudes a moron, Bully, loudmouth, any other boss besides a weirdo like Vince McMahon and he woulda been out of a job long before this…
@KHLB516 wrong. You obviously DO NOT know what cheap heat is. It's one of the best tools a rasslin' heel can have in his tool bag.
@KHLB516 and... you wouldn't have your precious "pro rasslin' " without the great Vincent Kennedy McMahon... and JBL is the classic heel ...
Kneepad Thompson. Gee-Zus. Why don't these guys "Please" go to any other podcast. " I wanna be one of the boys so bad" thompson is at this point a flip flopping windbag. PrIchard still comes across as a BS car salesman hanging off of McMahons sack.
In Germany, they don't sugarcoat their own history like here in the US.
“I’m not defending jbl “ then proceeds to defend jbl… I never respected that bully and all of his racist storylines
How many asses has JBL's finger seen?
a bakers dozen
Absolutely awful take from Conrad.
‘It was ‘in character’ so doesn’t count? Yeah, go and randomly attack and abduct people ‘in character’ and see where you end up.
Conrad is an absolute horrible host anyway he’s like the worst wrestling podcast host. He tries to be edgy and his opinions are usually bad. He thinks he’s smart to the business but he’s a big mark.
I'm curious why Bruce spent so much effort blaming Melzer. Could it be deflecting blame? For example, did WWE's top-notch legal team brief the wrestlers that doing any Nazi stuff was against the law in Germany? How about JBL using an outdated gimmick? Using the words of a former WWE employee, Bruce's griping about wrestling journalists gets tiresome.
Tell 'em Bruce! Wait, it's "entertainment" and "episodic storytelling", so if it's a tv show/movie about so-called nazis it's ok. 🙄
JBL isn't a Nazi though? How many times has he or other WWE stars done that in America? The answer is zero! So don't do it overseas if you are too scared to do it in America!
Long time ago
It’s Silly when you do not respect another Country’s LAW’S!!’
IKR Just like that WNBA dude.
It wasn't illegal.
German Criminal Code (Section 86a, paragraph 3:
"Subsection (1) _shall not be applicable if the means of propaganda or the act serves to_ further civil enlightenment, to avert unconstitutional aims, _to promote art_ or science, research or teaching, reporting about current historical events or similar purposes."
This exemption applies to actors. You don't know what the hell you're talking about.
And then JBL went to Fox news which makes the argument of "He is not that guy" debatable.
I don’t remember there being a nazi character in WWF or wcw. Who!?
Hans Schmidt would sometimes work in the North East.
Heidenreich (based on early rumors). If true, they pulled back that presentation before he debuted on TV.
JBL wrote his own character that night and his own ticket out. No mistake. Bad choice.
It's absolutely ridiculous that he got fired over this. Everyone is so quick to point out how "fake" wrestling is but continue to treat it as real. Should Ralph Fiennes find himself out of work permanently because he portrayed Amon Goth in Schindler's List? Christoph Waltz did was frighteningly good as fictional nazi Hans Landa. Should he lose work too? Pro wrestling is the only form of entertainment that gets treated like it's real by people who call it fake. It's no different than a tv show or movie.
Bad comparison. Jbl's real name is John Layfield..its not like an actor in a film being a nazi. His character is not a German or a Nazi or Nazi sympathiser. He's also performing infront of a live crowd! In Germany, infront of Jewish people and others affected. Imagine a big theatre production like hamlet performing in London and America and Europe then when they get to Germany one of the supporting actors starts going off script doing the Nazi salute to get a bigger reaction. It's more like that and John rightly paid for it. The guys a bully and a moron anyway so he deserved it.
You are very very wrong and out of your element
In Germany, it’s illegal to do Nazi salutes and to talk about Hitler
@@AmericanGypsy206 So was Schindler's List & Inglorious Bastards outlawed in Germany?
@@Bang-bangBart Wrestling isn't real, just like Movies & TV Shows aren't real. We can agree on that right? JBL is a performer playing a character, no different than the two men listed.
He was drawing heat … always part of wrestling. And it was I’m sure just a few fans .
Who cares
Can't believe conrad is defending jbl
Cnn & msnbc would have given him a raise
What JBL did shouldn't be a crime. Free speech is more important that offending some jchewish people or any law on Germany's books.
It wasn't.
German Criminal Code (Section 86a, paragraph 3:
"Subsection (1) _shall not be applicable if the means of propaganda or the act serves to_ further civil enlightenment, to avert unconstitutional aims, _to promote art_ or science, research or teaching, reporting about current historical events or similar purposes."
This exemption applies to actors.
WWE is 🌈 any more
Randomly enforced 😂😂😂 germany has always been a joke
so jbl, a well known bully in the wwe,gave the nazi salute in effort to get heat.he got so much heat he lost his job? an here is bruce sounding like he is making excuses for him..an getting his panties in a wad over the situation.bruce himself says it should of never happened..i agree it should never have.just a silly observation here from me is all.
It still strikes me as odd that humanoids who would claim to know that “rasslin’s fake” and so on get upset about a guy playing the role of a bad guy would say and do bad things. Yeah, it was a poor decision and since Germany has laws that strongly limit their national history, I could see the gummint expressing a problem with it, maybe a fine and apology.
good we don't need jbl
Jbl was awful. Poorest era of wrestling ever with champs like Jbl, swagger, del Rio, Khali, Sheamus. All mid card talent at best in any other era.
Jbl was awful period.
You know... if everybody keeps bringing up old shit, the fatherland und the world will NEVER FORGET....
Doesn’t matter if it s a character it’s a law brah go back to the Buffett
Nope.
German Criminal Code (Section 86a, paragraph 3:
"Subsection (1) _shall not be applicable if the means of propaganda or the act serves to_ further civil enlightenment, to avert unconstitutional aims, _to promote art_ or science, research or teaching, reporting about current historical events or similar purposes."
This exemption applies to actors. You don't know what the hell you're talking about.
Cheap heat is ALWAYS good....