Eric Bischoff On Why He Wasn't In WCW Invasion In 2001 Despite JR Call

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  • Eric Bischoff spoke to Kenny McIntosh about a phone call he received from Jim Ross in the summer in 2001 and why he didn’t go to WWF for the WCW Invasion. Subscribe to the channel for more clips of our live shows and interviews and don't forget to like and comment too!
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  • @InsideTheRopes
    @InsideTheRopes  3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Eric Bischoff spoke to Kenny McIntosh about a phone call he received from Jim Ross in the summer in 2001 and why he didn’t go to WWF for the WCW Invasion. Subscribe to the channel for more clips of our live shows and interviews and don't forget to like and comment too!

    • @bridgetbonds5169
      @bridgetbonds5169 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Kenny my name is Bridget and from Pontiac Michigan and can you please tell Eric bischoff to send me his video interview ?

  • @alanjm160684
    @alanjm160684 3 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    Eric Bischoff made the ruthless aggression era awesome. He was perfect as GM and had so much charisma and presence.
    It's a real shame he didn't get to come back recently as the writer for Smackdown

    • @EXPLISITemcee
      @EXPLISITemcee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Its kinda weird.. so you would believe in Vincent K being a WCW Nitro big boss GM on camera for Nitro?? Im not a fan of guest commissioners as anyone can suddenly get the job. I am more of a OLD SChool WWF JAck Tunney PREZ idea for a BOSS.

    • @EXPLISITemcee
      @EXPLISITemcee 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bishoff was only brought in to be mocked. It was a WWE Fuck you to WCW

    • @mr.brenman2132
      @mr.brenman2132 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@EXPLISITemcee That's the wrestling business. I guess you think it's real.

    • @elpipiripau7647
      @elpipiripau7647 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mr.brenman2132 Who?...

  • @MizfitZer0
    @MizfitZer0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    Best GM of all time. He kept Raw watchable during the 2003-2006 period. After he left Raw, Raw became unwatchable for me

    • @EXPLISITemcee
      @EXPLISITemcee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Dude it was a gimmick not real life. Eric was not in charge of WWE decissions from 2003 to 2006. So WWE did a good job making sure Eric did his job? ok, glad you liked it.

    • @DSVN23
      @DSVN23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Likewise. When Austin left after the General Manager arc I stopped watching. I hated Eric back then but that just proves now what a good on screen talent he was, that’s what he was trying to do!

    • @findlay1arches
      @findlay1arches 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He was fantastic during that time

    • @mr.brenman2132
      @mr.brenman2132 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@EXPLISITemcee Yeah we know. He's not talking about that. He's talking about his performance fool. I guess you think management is responsible for every character looking good.

    • @edwardjohnson6744
      @edwardjohnson6744 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      He made Raw watchable BEFORE that by making WCW Monday Night Nitro!

  • @ashleyhynam8946
    @ashleyhynam8946 3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    That is random AF lol Bishoff in a AFL Collingwood jacket.

    • @account13-33
      @account13-33 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aye what

    • @tejas57
      @tejas57 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      just proves he has no taste

    • @michelledavidson8190
      @michelledavidson8190 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep just noticed that lol.

    • @RaulForPresident
      @RaulForPresident 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It’s the only reason I clicked on the video. So Bizarre

    • @mattmcmanus957
      @mattmcmanus957 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      His Collingwood are pretty shit in 2021 lol

  • @orion2208
    @orion2208 3 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    Bischoff wearing a Collingwood hoodie is the most random AF thing I've seen in a while hahah

    • @MonkeyManMods
      @MonkeyManMods 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lmao yeh wtf

    • @peterduffy3871
      @peterduffy3871 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Bucks’ replacement!

    • @TL2354
      @TL2354 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What’s so funny?

    • @OGTrollTroll8
      @OGTrollTroll8 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maattte😅

    • @mattmcmanus957
      @mattmcmanus957 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      His Collingwood are pretty shit in 2021 lol

  • @davidmiles4678
    @davidmiles4678 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Eric would have made the invasion angle more believable and it would have work better. It still might have been bad but it would have helped it just like if they waited for Flair

    • @EXPLISITemcee
      @EXPLISITemcee 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So you would let some WCW's past major enemy be in charge of WWE storylines? Um.. i don't think youd trust Vince working for WCW so lets not act like Eric was gonna get any REAL power...

    • @EXPLISITemcee
      @EXPLISITemcee 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A moron would book it better.. it had nothing to do with Bishoff being involved or not. WWE's ego and WWE's politic's were gonna make it crappy regardless..

    • @davidmiles4678
      @davidmiles4678 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I never said be in charge of wwe storylines I said he would have made it more believable being involved in it. They have mention in Bruce Pritchard Jim Ross and Eric podcast they wanted him involved in it. Eric was the one who didn’t go at first he was their a year later anyways

  • @bradleythomas27
    @bradleythomas27 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    WWF vs WCW was a missed opportunity! It shoould and could have been a MAOOOSIVE money maker had it not been rushed. It should have been Vince vs Bischoff, Austin vs Goldberg, Rock vs Hogan, Taker vs Sting, DX vs NWO.....I could go on!

    • @SIMOLAMBOTZ
      @SIMOLAMBOTZ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah but some big stars from WCW did not want to go to WWE...Goldberg was still paid without having to fight.

    • @michaelmercury1297
      @michaelmercury1297 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was a hugely missed opportunity.

    • @michaelrainey7726
      @michaelrainey7726 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      WWE would of buried them all tho

  • @FunkNatives
    @FunkNatives 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    That survivor series could’ve been Rock, Austin, Michaels, HHH, & Taker vs. Goldberg, Hogan, Sting, DDP, & RVD

    • @Ra18SJ
      @Ra18SJ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

    • @teamspirits732
      @teamspirits732 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Wouldn't work Michaels was still semi-retired and Triple H was out on legit injury at the time. Kane and Jericho were good choice though.

    • @cbennett196631
      @cbennett196631 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      RVD….huh

  • @RobJNathanSings
    @RobJNathanSings 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The segment he did with 3 minute warning (when he was the old man) was absolutely brilliant.

  • @H.L.S.98
    @H.L.S.98 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Eric continues to be, one of the most interesting, intelligent guys involved in the wacky world of professional wrestling. When future generations look back, and see how he took a dysfunctional company (WCW) that was floundering, and made it the most successful in its industry, against a juggernaut that was/is WWF/WWE , they will judge him more respectfully than he is today. What he did was miraculous. Yes in the end he probably was in over his head a touch (something he’ll admit to) and internal Time Warner/AOL politics created a toxic environment to carry on the success long term. But what he achieved in 96-98 was probably the best Wrestling tv in the modern era. He changed the game and for the better!

    • @randomlyentertaining8287
      @randomlyentertaining8287 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      WWF was not a juggernaut when WCW started beating them in the ratings. However, their war with WCW did end up with them becoming a juggernaut.

    • @rhysobrien2439
      @rhysobrien2439 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@randomlyentertaining8287 I disagree. WWF was THE promotion for many years after the death of the territories WCW was pretty much the TNA to WWE's WWF if that makes sense. It was failing and not considered real competition.

    • @IamLegend32
      @IamLegend32 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@rhysobrien2439Neither of you are wrong.. Just depends on your guys interpretation of "juggernaut." In the 80's, I would definitely consider WWE a juggernaut. By the mid 90's (post steroid trial), WWE business was not that great, however, they were still "THE" wrestling promotion and WCW was at a pretty distant #2.. Regardless, no matter how you look at it, WCW catching up to and defeating the WWE in the ratings was a major accomplishment!

    • @ShadowAngel606
      @ShadowAngel606 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Jeez, you sound like the typical mark who read Death of WCW and blindly believed it, despite it beint 95% made up nonsense :D
      And Bankrupt Bischoff still was the worst thing to ever happen to the business. There are enough examples of why he did mostly just damag

    • @Oldschool1943
      @Oldschool1943 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@IamLegend32 *WWF was not a "juggernaut." In the 80's stop it.

  • @superanimeboi6547
    @superanimeboi6547 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Dude I wish Bischoff would comeback n make some good wrestling stories.

    • @EXPLISITemcee
      @EXPLISITemcee 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      For WWE or AEW? WWE is not going back to 90s wrestling but AEW could.

    • @superanimeboi6547
      @superanimeboi6547 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EXPLISITemcee I think bischoff could do well in AEW.

    • @EXPLISITemcee
      @EXPLISITemcee 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@superanimeboi6547 Its crazy never gave Eric a real thought until now. I would support it and i think its a great idea.. but...........................Egos and politics are big in wrestling.. i guess it would work if Jericho and Tony and AEW guys are ok with Bishoff having power..(Jericho could have bad blood towards Eric based on WCW's past)

    • @EXPLISITemcee
      @EXPLISITemcee 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@superanimeboi6547 If egos could all get along id like PAul E in AEW also.

    • @superanimeboi6547
      @superanimeboi6547 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EXPLISITemcee trust me I know. Im a pro wrestler and I see it all the time. It literally kills the business and any potential stars.

  • @brianboyd1437
    @brianboyd1437 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Boy did you make the right call, Eric.

  • @jokertdk
    @jokertdk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I think one of the reasons Good Ol JR was being vague with Bischoff on the phone about the Invasion angle, was because there was no plan outside of a vague outline. Basically WWF (at the time) was just winging it, which would explain the whole alliance crap that followed shortly thereafter. The rush to start the Invasion storyline, along with taking the make-it-up-as-you-go-along approach, clearly, did not work.

    • @JusRed48
      @JusRed48 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @A Gameboy of Color I think having Shane do it was fine, but the problem is it doesn't matter and instantly makes no sense when there is no longer a WCW Nitro show. Kills the kayfabe of that whole idea right away.

    • @EXPLISITemcee
      @EXPLISITemcee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well they made it seem like they were winging it ..more like they knew but didn't wanna LEAK "WCW gonna look like CRAP vs WWE" .. it was planned not winged.

    • @jokertdk
      @jokertdk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@EXPLISITemcee I think the endgame was for WWE to look strong all through the Invasion, and come out on top. Plus, it's not beyond McMahon to be petty and take creative liberties to make WCW look bad. All that was expected.
      However, the long term planning of the story line itself came across as week-by-week though. Thus winging it.
      Having Sting, or Flair, or Hogan looking like CRAP and being defeated by Team WWE would have been more impactful, if there was a plan. Having Austin be the leader of the alliance garbage, and being defeated .... not so much.

    • @EXPLISITemcee
      @EXPLISITemcee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jokertdk I agree. So i gotta ask .. FAV Survivor Series (team vs team elimination) ?? EVER. Mine is still 1987(Team Andre vs Team hulk) but i also like Andre,Rude,PErfect,Dino on the same team and great ending.

    • @jokertdk
      @jokertdk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@EXPLISITemcee It's that one man! Hogan vs Andre team back in 1987. Talk about a great SS team vs team match! Amazing match, with one hell of a atmosphere around it. The crowd just added to it!

  • @yosefvargasx
    @yosefvargasx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Id love for jr to hear this them respond on his podcast

  • @joemckim1183
    @joemckim1183 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    If Vince really wanted Bischoff during the Invasion he would've made the call himself.

    • @ganglabesh
      @ganglabesh 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      that probably would of gotten him to agree

  • @mofromango
    @mofromango 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I remember losing my mind when the Invasion angle was going on! Am I the only one who loved it? I mean, sure, it could have been done better looking back but its still one of my favourite times in wrestling.

    • @Charsi_Escobar
      @Charsi_Escobar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It was good, which is why so many people look down on it; it had the potential to be the biggest angle in wrestling history. Having two WWE guys (Rock & Austin) fighting for control between wcw/wwe was kinda bleh.

    • @joemckim1183
      @joemckim1183 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Charsi_Escobar It would've been better if they had more guys that could've gone head-to-head with Austin and Rock as far as being top stars. Booker T faced The Rock at SummerSlam but that was about the only time he got a big match singles match during that time.

    • @marcusbrown9917
      @marcusbrown9917 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@joemckim1183 I'm a fan of Booker, but it should've been Rock vs DDP so we could find out who was the true peoples champ.

    • @joemckim1183
      @joemckim1183 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@marcusbrown9917 If they didn't basically ruin DDP with that stupid stalker gimmick when he debuted they could've done more with him then competing for the European Championship.

    • @marcusbrown9917
      @marcusbrown9917 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@joemckim1183 I totally agree with you

  • @tun-tunninc.6492
    @tun-tunninc.6492 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    My WrestleMania card, hmm. At that time?
    Austin v. Goldberg
    Rock v. Hulk Hogan
    Jericho v. DDP
    Triple H v. Sting
    Undertaker/Kane v. Outsiders
    Kurt Angle v. Booker T
    Trish Stratus/Lita v. Stacy Keibler/Torrie Wilson
    Hardy Boyz v. Filthy Animals

    • @johneastwood3039
      @johneastwood3039 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What about Taker vs Sting? Or nWo vs DX?

    • @tun-tunninc.6492
      @tun-tunninc.6492 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@johneastwood3039 no way, lol. This is my booking. Hello!?

    • @miguel20012
      @miguel20012 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@tun-tunninc.6492 lol Swith triple h with undertaker vs sting everyone wanted to see that match

    • @jamief1263
      @jamief1263 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Steiner in his prime v angle would have been great. I would probably swap DDP and Booker around. Possibly Angle v Goldberg, I don’t think Steve could get a good match out of Bill. Konnan was decent as well, problem is most the good wrestlers had already left WCW, like Benoit, Eddie, Malenko, Saturn and Jerrico, the guys left were either past their primes or couldn’t put on decent matches.

    • @tun-tunninc.6492
      @tun-tunninc.6492 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jamief1263 being a booker is hard!! Lol.

  • @puneetmitra
    @puneetmitra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great interview

  • @tristanedwards7302
    @tristanedwards7302 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bischoff randomly wearing the jersey of a Victorian AFL team, a sport that's only played in Australia, is so super random. haha. I wonder if he saw it on tv or something when he was on tour in Australia with WWE one time

  • @SSFhdCLAN
    @SSFhdCLAN 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would have loved it .. was never tired of the N W O

  • @glennpiper1
    @glennpiper1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I definitely think Eric is right here he came in at the right time

    • @joemckim1183
      @joemckim1183 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just like how it was the right time to bring in Rey Mysterio later on. He would've been just another 1 of 20 WCW guys joining WWE at the time.

    • @glennpiper1
      @glennpiper1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@joemckim1183 I don’t think Eric would have returned if he thought the GM role wouldn’t suit the character. Turned out Vince had it spot on it made total sense for Eric to be the GM in the storyline. In 2001 WCW dieing must have been very raw and bad feelings were obviously understandably there for Eric a year later he probably felt ready to move forward. The timing was perfect 👍

  • @thomasstewart-tm2ts
    @thomasstewart-tm2ts 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The whole invasion angle was nothing but vinces continued ego trip. There was no payoff. There was no actual angle discussed. When people mostly outside the buisness call McMahon the greatest wrestling mind ever. They are completely wrong. That storyline would have the best one in wrestling history. It would have sold itself. The greatest wrestling mind wouldnt have dropped the ball on something so obvious to do.

  • @gillianmcnosehair9097
    @gillianmcnosehair9097 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bisch inked up, man. Crazies.

  • @joypadlad
    @joypadlad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The fans didn't care about the WCW guys coming in and being their same old selves. The appeal of an invasion was always that the WCW guys as they were would go against the WWF guys as they were. Like they did with Hogan, bringing him in with the nWo and changing him after his dream match with The Rock, that is how these guys should have been handled. Bring them in for the dream matches and then evolve those characters.

    • @v.k.rt.m.6030
      @v.k.rt.m.6030 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What's next are you going to say that WCW stars shouldn't be themselves regardless if fans care about them? I did care tbh. They cared about DDP till they gave him the Stalker Gimmick.

    • @joypadlad
      @joypadlad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@v.k.rt.m.6030 read my comment again . Bischoff claimed people didn’t want to see the same old stuff. I said they didn’t care if it was their old characters because they wanted to see those characters vs WWF guys

  • @christerry1611
    @christerry1611 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    According to most of Bischoff's shoots everyone who despised him back then just LOVES him now. lol

    • @bonnie3447
      @bonnie3447 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think most of them really do now though. There was a lot that turned out to be rumors from fired wrestlers that have since been cleared up by both sides.

    • @Iambetterthanyouanduknowit
      @Iambetterthanyouanduknowit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bonnie3447 lmao ya right bischoff REAKS of insincerity, he’s a liar

    • @jamesjones1822
      @jamesjones1822 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah u got a point also it’s was business like that dude almost ended vince now no one can his own major shows a worth billions now it crazy of the empire he built

    • @bdix42
      @bdix42 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why would they hate him now? It was business . You must be young

  • @miamimagicians
    @miamimagicians ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Eric Bischoff is my favorite heel

  • @michaelnaimfilm
    @michaelnaimfilm 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the collingwood jumper, can't be unseen

  • @miamimagicians
    @miamimagicians ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Eric is the most charming intelligent interview always

  • @TheWillisShow
    @TheWillisShow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    They would have brought in Bischoff with Shane the way Heyman aligned with Stephanie because in the storyline the McMahon kids owned the competition. I fixed that plot hole. Not that it would have been the best way to do it but it could have worked.

    • @joypadlad
      @joypadlad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah, I would have built some momentum on Vince's side over Shane and in desperation, Shane brings in Bischoff as a shocker and let Vince and Bischoff do a 10 minute worked shoot in the ring and lay it all out. Talk about the bidding on the company too and you can even use the angle with Flair that Bischoff partnered with Shane on the deal after Vince tried to steal it out from under Bischoff. Would have been a top 10 moment to this day.

    • @TheWillisShow
      @TheWillisShow 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joypadlad I like this.

  • @icetrae91
    @icetrae91 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    could you imagine bischoff in this angle? or even just as a writer being part of it... it wouldve made so much more sense when they brought him and heyman in for gm roles, wouldve been longterm storytelling lol and they couldve pointed the finger at eachother why the alliance lost/failed and wouldve pushed them to show that their brand was the top one over the other "not that they didnt cause clealy ruthless aggression era was second best era lol" but just imagine how things couldve been... or if the contract stuff wasnt issue and the real wcw guys came over instead, man that wouldve been the greatest thing to see as a kid at that time

  • @user-gr6qm5mu4b
    @user-gr6qm5mu4b 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Best thing is his wearing a pies hoodie love it

  • @Pyro_Might
    @Pyro_Might 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I always thought Bischoff should've came in after survivor series and be co-owner. It would've made more sense for him to introduce the NWO.
    WWE in most of 2002 felt like a mess. Lol.

  • @addisongoat4727
    @addisongoat4727 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn, mans rocking the Magpies gear!

  • @brianm1185
    @brianm1185 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Eric would have helped somewhat. But at the end of the day they needed a lot more big-name WCW stars to make it work

  • @magnusforte9988
    @magnusforte9988 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bischoff repping the pies! Go Pies!!!

  • @kalebrunton527
    @kalebrunton527 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think if Eric came in to wwe in 2001 he would have been put in to a stooge role for Shane and Stephanie that was treated terrible and it would have been Eric that turned on the alliance and not Kurt and would have gotten the GM position for his reward

    • @MrAitraining
      @MrAitraining 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly. Actually most of The guys who had a decent run coming from WCW (goldberg, Steiner and eric) were the guys who came in later. That first wave of the invasion was too soon after vince bought it and the storylines were largely unfavorable to those first WCW guys. They were mostly mocked.

  • @brodiepopple339
    @brodiepopple339 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I’m just interested to know why Eric Bischoff is wearing a Collingwood jumper?

    • @oldie497
      @oldie497 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ditto but kinda cool that he is wearing something aussie lol

    • @cameronluxton4114
      @cameronluxton4114 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was thinking the exact same thing

    • @scottbuchanan2732
      @scottbuchanan2732 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      But why a F'n Collingwood shirt???

    • @xavierwatson7252
      @xavierwatson7252 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And he tatted now! his right arm

    • @mattmcmanus957
      @mattmcmanus957 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He goes for Collingwood who are pretty shit in 2021 lol

  • @crazycat6lad918
    @crazycat6lad918 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really need to know the story behind the Collingwood hoodie 😂😂

  • @reggiejames8626
    @reggiejames8626 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And now Brock is a cowboy comedian that crushes people

  • @strongwytwtty
    @strongwytwtty 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    But Bischoff said on Monday Night Wars documentary that when he got hired as EP commentators with southern accents had to go bc he wanted WCW to get away from the southern regional stigma they had

  • @creoleDJ
    @creoleDJ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Just imagine if Vince Russo would’ve been the face of the new wCw! 🤣🤣

    • @johneastwood3039
      @johneastwood3039 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That would have been way better than what we got.

    • @tun-tunninc.6492
      @tun-tunninc.6492 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Russo isn't a leader. 😊

    • @EXPLISITemcee
      @EXPLISITemcee 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well i dont like Cena but id pick a pro wrestler over any promoter..as a match. I detest certain so called pro wrestlers but promoters AKA fake wrestlers being involved in matches is my biggest pet peeve.

    • @Sen0rDragon
      @Sen0rDragon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      the new blood 2.0

    • @TheJosephPrice
      @TheJosephPrice 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tbh, it would’ve been more realistic than Vince’s children running things.

  • @selfiekroos1777
    @selfiekroos1777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That lesnar idea is genius

  • @DanielSmith-zv9yc
    @DanielSmith-zv9yc ปีที่แล้ว

    Has easy-e seriously got a Collingwood jumper on 😂I didn’t expect that

  • @Pillar5770
    @Pillar5770 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here's a better question: why did the WWE book a WCW invasion angle without Eric Bischoff and the big name WCW stars such as Hogan, Hall, Nash, Goldberg,etc?

    • @DSVN23
      @DSVN23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They didn’t own the contacts for the big names, the big names were given a choice - stay at home on full pay for the rest of their time on their wwe contracts, or leave the contract and sign with WWE immediately. They knew they’d be buried so why not stay home and collect over a million for a year off. Booker T, DDP and a couple of others took the WWE contracts

    • @Pillar5770
      @Pillar5770 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DSVN23 Agreed, which is why Vince should have refrained from the invasion angle until he got everyone under contract. He only needed to wait one year and he would have been good to go.

    • @specialagentorange4329
      @specialagentorange4329 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Darraugh, all WWE had to do was give those stars the guaranteed stay at home money, with a lot of money on top of that to show up for invasion angle

  • @MilMaska
    @MilMaska 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    "He (Eric Bischoff) reminded me of the guy in the Wizard of Oz. Behing the curtain, making all the noise but didn't know anything" - Bret Hart

    • @toddrichardson8595
      @toddrichardson8595 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yes, because Crybaby Bret Hart was always good at running his Mouth.. He's still crying 22 years later about How Goldberg ended his career. Boohoo!!!

    • @ronniejdio9411
      @ronniejdio9411 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Bret Mark

    • @ronniejdio9411
      @ronniejdio9411 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@toddrichardson8595 goldberg did the first canadian destroyer

    • @steveomac385
      @steveomac385 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Surprised he could hear any noise over his own crying.

    • @GregBurch
      @GregBurch 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He ain't wrong.

  • @dramahawkpromotions9621
    @dramahawkpromotions9621 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A Simple Conversation changes things boy I tell ya. All that Time Jim Ross Thought Eric Fired him or had issues with him

  • @BlagoP
    @BlagoP 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    20 years later, a lot of people are attacking the Invasion angle online, but the fact of the matter is that at the time people were enjoying it. To this day the Invasion PPV the highest grossing non-Wrestlemania PPV in WWE history. It's easy now to say "oh they could've done this or done that" but with Triple H injured, the Rock out on a movie for a part of the year, and with WCW's top talent still under old WCW's contracts, WWE did the best they could.

    • @jammiedodger
      @jammiedodger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Let's not rewrite history here, a lot of people switched off during the angle.

    • @BlagoP
      @BlagoP 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jammiedodger I just said that the Invasion PPV still is the highest grossing non-Wrestlemania PPV in WWE history. Clearly there weren't "a lot" of people switching off like your bogus, made up statement claims.

    • @jammiedodger
      @jammiedodger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BlagoP Invasion was the first PPV in the storyline (if we ignore Booker appearing unadvertised at KOTR). The buzz fizzled out by Summerslam with No Mercy and Unforgiven underperforming based on previous years. They fucked it up post- Invasion PPV and didn't capitalise on the mega butyrate. There's nothing bogus about that.

    • @BlagoP
      @BlagoP 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jammiedodger You're right that it started fizzling out, as most things do, but it wasn't as bad as the internet would make it seem today. It's being attacked as if it was the worst thing that the WWE ever did, but it's not even close, it wasn't even that bad, I for one enjoyed it.

  • @Makminah_
    @Makminah_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just imagine if he ran the invasion.. it would last maybe for a year or 2

  • @speedwaynutt
    @speedwaynutt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This must have been filmed while Bishoff was in Australia due to him wearing a Afl jumper of the Collingwood Football club.

  • @KingMonkeyII
    @KingMonkeyII 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The mighty ‘pies! LMAO

  • @FlixCreEightR
    @FlixCreEightR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Didn't know they asked him to come in in 2001. He should of.

  • @Jasonlee-30
    @Jasonlee-30 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This man acutely took on one of the greatest wrestling promotions and won lets give him his flowers

  • @dramahawkpromotions9621
    @dramahawkpromotions9621 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes I wish that would have worked out

  • @jonbarbour6771
    @jonbarbour6771 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The stuff about wanting to see new people on top is interesting seeing how he lost Y2J, Chris and Eddie because he wouldn't elevate them to the main event over the old timers WCW.

  • @davidstevens9245
    @davidstevens9245 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Did I miss something I just don’t understand why everyone that I have seen about the invasion angle saying that it sucked I mean I just don’t get it The only issue I had was when stone cold Steve Austin turned his back on the WWF and the other one is when Shane and Booker T tricked Kurt Angle and stone cold in to arriving at the New York Time Square to shout his mouth off for the ambush on Mr McMahon in the ring on Monday night raw everything else was just bang on for me
    I mean this storyline is what made me fall in love with wrestling in the first place this invasion angle was my very first piece and knowledge of wrestling and I still look back on today on the WWE network

    • @findlay1arches
      @findlay1arches 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ha yes !!! Never once have I seen someone with the same opinion of the invasion angle until now. I enjoyed the invasion angle alot

  • @bridgetbonds5169
    @bridgetbonds5169 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Question: how long you and Vince McMahon became friends? And do think about going back as general manager again? :

  • @CarbiesChronicles
    @CarbiesChronicles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    imagine if Eric would have come, he would have convinced Hogan,, Hall, Nash, Goldberg to come along too

  • @aaronreynolds1504
    @aaronreynolds1504 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Him leading the invasion would 100% have made it better.

  • @ChumpMaLe4u
    @ChumpMaLe4u 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    all pro-wrestling talk shows focus on 1985 - 2005. thank God

  • @RANTSWITHBRENT
    @RANTSWITHBRENT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I listen to bishof all the time and I've noticed nothing is ever his fault and if it is he doesnt remember it so fuck what he says he still just says what makes him look the best in the situation

  • @sb4photos
    @sb4photos 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Eric wearing a Australian Rules Jumper.. well there u go

  • @LuciusDragonwolf
    @LuciusDragonwolf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ITR please in another podcast tell me bishoff to join nwa promotion as GM plsssssss....I'm his die hard fan...

  • @miamimagicians
    @miamimagicians 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I honestly think wrestling is more popular now than evvvver before

  • @romanhernandez5141
    @romanhernandez5141 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It would've been so much better had he been in it, he would've provided a true leader.

  • @instrumentalist28
    @instrumentalist28 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The other reason the invasion angle didn't work was because they didn't get big names like Goldberg and Steiner, as they got paid more not to go to wwe after wcw was bought out.

  • @davidtodd3401
    @davidtodd3401 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bischoff being brought in by Shane to run WCW would have made sense.
    Hogan, Nash, Hall, Steiner, Goldberg, Rey Mysterio all debuted within a couple of years to go with DDP and Booker T.
    Bischoff as Raw GM still would have worked.
    WWE pulled the trigger way too quickly there.

  • @TheHannibalTV
    @TheHannibalTV 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    🤠

  • @dannyharmes4471
    @dannyharmes4471 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where did the Magpie jumper come from?

  • @alexwilliams8001
    @alexwilliams8001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wait, why is Bischoff wearing a Collingwood jacket?

    • @mattmcmanus957
      @mattmcmanus957 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They are his team and they are pretty shit in 2021 lol

  • @jjbjjb273
    @jjbjjb273 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    If vince had waited a year and got the real big players in wcw and had the real Invasion man it would been epic. The dream matches could have happen and the money would have pour in instead he botch big time. Wrestling has never been the same since the death of wcw

    • @michaelmorbid704
      @michaelmorbid704 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Imagine a WrestleMania with this card....
      Austin vs Goldberg for the unified title.
      The Rock Vs DDP for the unified TV/Intercontinental title
      Undertaker vs Sting
      Harlem Heat vs The Acolytes for the unified tag team gold.
      Faces of Fear vs L.O.D in a Falls Count Anywhere match.
      Mankind vs Hugh Morris
      DX vs NWO classic 6 on 6.
      Raven vs Al Snow

    • @FlixCreEightR
      @FlixCreEightR 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Waiting a year in storyline wise. Wouldn't have made sense.

    • @jjbjjb273
      @jjbjjb273 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FlixCreEightR It would have made perfect sense vince had no idea what to do with wcw and ecw once he bought them everything that we got in 2001 after wm 17 was rushed

  • @phreak811
    @phreak811 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The big question about this is if it JR WAS being forced to make that call, did he delay making it as long as he could to ENSURE Eric said no? Gotta wonder. I mean I know they are friends today but that's something I wouldn't put past someone doing ya know?

  • @SCOBigMike666
    @SCOBigMike666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I think we can all agree Eric dodged a bullet with the Invasion damn it sucked especially the wcw side of it, you can literally count in 1 finger the only wcw star that actually came out of that storyline and had a good wwe career and of course I'm talking about the 5 time wcw champ booker T. You can't say that anyone else in that stable from wcw did well in wwe even if they were inducted into the hall of fame, that of course being people like ddp. They ruined him in wwe

    • @EXPLISITemcee
      @EXPLISITemcee 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Eric pulled a STING.. guy knew WWE was only out to make WCW's past look bad..

    • @EXPLISITemcee
      @EXPLISITemcee 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      woa lets not get carried away. 5 Times in WCW but no WWE title... think about it.. BOOKER T is 10 times better then Kofi but Booker never got that WWE main company title.. Booker won KOTR in a cheap way..unlike Bret (3 bouts in 1 night) Booker was treated GOOD but not GREAT.

    • @EXPLISITemcee
      @EXPLISITemcee 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Goldberg got a better deal then Booker. 2 wins over Brock, Universal title, barely losing(Booker lost more)no loss to Austin. Beat Triple h and Rock, a win over Owens in seconds. Booker T never got a "world-universal-WCW world" title bout at MANIA like GOLDBERG. PS: Money made (Goldy vs Booker T)

    • @SCOBigMike666
      @SCOBigMike666 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EXPLISITemcee booker did win the title 2006 smackdown he held it for a good couple of months but he easily had the best wwe career out of the wcw side of the alliance that's what I'm saying

    • @SCOBigMike666
      @SCOBigMike666 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EXPLISITemcee also Goldberg wasn't in the alliance and his first wwe run was shit, they tried to make him wrestle in his first run and that's not what Goldberg does he goes in for a 5 minute squash one way or another

  • @kitfo18
    @kitfo18 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If it was a old idea then, then why did they do it in TNA?? This is why people said they phoned it in during their TNA run, they knew it was crap well before and did it anyway.

  • @JOHNN01.82
    @JOHNN01.82 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All WWE had to do was wait a year and signed the bigger names Eric included. The invasion should of started with just ECW for a year back and forth then WCW should of joined with big players and that on screen war could of lasted years

  • @T3l3MuNd0
    @T3l3MuNd0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think how everything turned out was perfect. If Eric came during the invasion angle & the nwo DON'T show up with him, it would've sucked as fast as
    Booker T vs Buff Bagwell.
    When Eric came in June of 02 he shows up & the crowd had a showing 😳 awww moment. & him being the GM made some fans think "its WCW all over again?" & the way it started from Bishoff & McMahon hugging each other all the way to McMahon throwing Bishoff in the trash was a cool way to use him.

  • @SolidSonicTH
    @SolidSonicTH 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Seems like that would have gone better if Vince, Stephanie, or Shane made that call. They would probably have had more freedom to speak on the creative plans at the time and it wouldn't have the bad blood issues clouding the matter.

  • @brianboyd1437
    @brianboyd1437 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:45 is where you use Shane McMahon

  • @dannywilde1430
    @dannywilde1430 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Holiday season in the summer?

  • @johnnyskinwalker4095
    @johnnyskinwalker4095 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I cannot believe he wasn't part of the invasion just cause they would not tell him. So stupid from the WWE part. What a missed opportunity.

    • @EXPLISITemcee
      @EXPLISITemcee 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You didn't need Eric but it would have been extra cool to see TEAM WCW(wt Bishoff) vs Team WWE(wit Vince)

  • @crappienaterfishing6065
    @crappienaterfishing6065 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the invasion should of been eric walking in wit gberg hogan nash Jericho all the boys. wit sc rock foley all the wwf boys in the ring. EPIC

    • @cbennett196631
      @cbennett196631 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      WWE would have belittled the non WWE boys to oblivion

  • @MatticusPrime1
    @MatticusPrime1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I never knew WWE offered him a job in 2001. Interesting stuff.

  • @gerardparker4220
    @gerardparker4220 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was 11 during the invasion storyline. I didn’t have a problem with it.

  • @ohc6428
    @ohc6428 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good man, wearing the Collingwood's colours

  • @JaredLand
    @JaredLand 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    But WCW should actually be a third brand in WWE not joking either. And it could work just have Shane in charge duh 🙄

  • @MrHardworker09
    @MrHardworker09 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Someone please remind me who Eric Bisholff is?

  • @trulyfandamtastic9295
    @trulyfandamtastic9295 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I dont think it sucked, it was a great storyline with many twist n turns, specially the ending, the five on five survivor series match was coolest team match in history

    • @michaelmorbid704
      @michaelmorbid704 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The WCW/WWE Invasion sorry sucked big time. Especially the end when Stone Cold turned his back on WWE and joined WCW. That was stupid because Steve Austin had a huge resentment for WCW firing him for no reason and not giving him a opportunity to shine. Austin spent a short time in ECW slamming WCW. Then WWE gave him the opportunity to be who Steve wanted to be thus the Stone Cold character. Which was Steve's idea. Then he turns his back on the company who made him for the company that almost destroyed him. Yeah, that's smart. It was one of the dumbest stories ever. WCW wasn't jobbers. WCW was Sting, NWO, Goldberg, The 4 Horsemen (Ric Flair, Arn Anderson, Chris Benoit, and Mongo McMichael), Diamond Dallas Page, Harlem Heat, Scott Steiner, Rick Steiner, Rey Mysterio, Eddie Guerrero, Lex Lurger, The Giant, Kevin Sullivan, Faces of Fear, Kanyon, Kidman, Raven, Van Hammer, Hugh Morris, etc. Not the half asss rehash that WWEs watered down version of WCW. That story suuuuucked. Lol

    • @RonnyB0i
      @RonnyB0i 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I loved it as a kid. Growing up now, there was definitely more potential to make it greater but idgaf I still loved it

    • @traeleon5666
      @traeleon5666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It sucked

    • @norseczar27
      @norseczar27 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@traeleon5666 I still liked it. Go head hate me

    • @thejmc4074
      @thejmc4074 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m glad someone was entertained

  • @jm-nv5bl
    @jm-nv5bl 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:31 so holw did you fire stone cold

  • @jyeholden6691
    @jyeholden6691 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Eric bischoff follows AFL ?

    • @mattmcmanus957
      @mattmcmanus957 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He does he’s a big Collingwood fan his team is doing pretty shit in 2021 lol

  • @zerodawn09
    @zerodawn09 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i think if they would have waited a half a year to a year to start the invasion angle it could have worked but they jumped the gun so it fell flat.

  • @randomlyentertaining8287
    @randomlyentertaining8287 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why didn't he show up? Probably cause he heard the idea "WCW invasion but without any of the top guys" and went "Nope."

  • @keepdreamin
    @keepdreamin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i don't think it would have been a rehash because the nwo never faced the rock, stone cold steve austin or HHH before

  • @michaelmartinez5217
    @michaelmartinez5217 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wonder why there are no "Eric Bishoff" guys.
    Similar to Paul Hyman, Jimmy Hart, Bobby Henan,

    • @socipathicgaming5914
      @socipathicgaming5914 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There is. It is just that Bishoff is not 100% wrestling.

  • @fpshooterful
    @fpshooterful 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    REALLY wished that WWF at the time continued the Invasion storyline. Just a year later, Bish, Goldberg, NWO, made their debuts a year later. WCW the brand could've still lived on. I mean..... Vince brought ECW back, twice. UGH... just frustrates me... because the whole wrestling landscape would've been different now.

  • @linkvagar2336
    @linkvagar2336 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why on Earth is Bischoff wearing a Collingwood hoodie? lol

  • @bluecollareddogs9321
    @bluecollareddogs9321 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why is Bischoff wearing a Collingwood hoodie

  • @dhotnessmcawesome9747
    @dhotnessmcawesome9747 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I keep trying to watch your stuff. I don't mean to crap on what you're doing just... TURN UP THE DAMNED AUDIO!!!!!

  • @steellungscom
    @steellungscom 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bischoff has a sleeve?!

  • @gunner3929
    @gunner3929 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    when did he got those tattooes

  • @rickyrick9328
    @rickyrick9328 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The audio SUCKS

  • @edwardjohnson6744
    @edwardjohnson6744 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The entire WCW invasion was the biggest missed / wasted opportunity in WWF history.