Antelope Audio Zen Go Vs. Universal Audio Apollo Twin | Interface Shootout! (Which Is Better)
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Timestamps -
Intro: 00:30
Breakdown of Segments 00:31
Apollo Twin: 01:14
Zen Go 07:40
Miscellaneous of Apollo Twin 13:00
Similarities 13:56
Differences 15:40
Sound Test 22:00
Pros And Cons 26:43
Final Verdict 35:00
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Didn't do proper research bro. Zen Go has onboard processing as well like the Apollo does. You can use it during live performance/podcasting but if you install the afx2daw tool you can use it in mixing/mastering post-processing stages. Also a more fair comparison in that price range would be the Apollo Solo. If you want to compare an Antelope to the Apollo Twin you should use the Zen Q or a Zen Tour instead that are similar in price to the Twin!
There are other inaccuracies in this video which made me stop watching. It's a shame when someone says they did their research but gets simple things like the afx2daw processing wrong.
I also noticed he said you couldn't link the preamps for stereo... As I'm staring at the link button on my mixer...
Alot of waffle n terrible research
Thanks, I was almost mislead.
The actual sound quality and converters in the Zen go is on a different level honestly. I wouldn't even say the effects are what you're paying for with the Zen go, it's the audio path and clock.
Exactly. The plugins can def use some improvement but the conversion is crisp and rivaling UADs apollos for half the price.
💯💯… that’s why I purchased. I already have a solid outboard signal chain, I just wanted an upgrade on my DA conversion
That must just be with the twin which I also own, but also own the Apollo x16 and the sound stage is amazing, also own the Rme babyface pro Fa, studio one live 32s and a focusrite
@@Gang-25j Do you have experience with Twin X?
I have just sold mine and considering to buy Antelope Zen Go next.
Would it top the Twin X in terms of general sound quality and converters?
Thank you!
Apollo sounds very good, but Zen Go sounds great! Incredible sound quality!
Zen go has better audio card better pre amps
There is lots of incorrect info in this review
So much misinformation on this video. Zen Go has DSP inside like Apollo, their history is based on highly accurate clocks. TBH your credibility went out the window with the Apollo having zero latency statement. UAD plugins are actually licensed by what they try to simulate, which also wasn't mentioned. Not to say Antelopes are not great, they are, but licensing makes costs go up for UAD.
I bought the Apollo twin USB and I've had nothing but problems and crashes. I switched to the zen go and not only does it works with windows honestly my recordings sound better with the zen.
Zen Go has internal processing and plugins ARE available in the DAW and they are processed in the Zen Go with AFX2DAW expansion. Zen Q is more of an even match to the Apollo Twin.
Antelope audio isn’t popular in Russia, and I can’t find information about zengo and UAD, but I find your video!!!! You are my hero
Antelope is a amazing interface
Plus zen go is also a computer of it's.. it has dsp chips.. it doesn't use the computer processor..
I think that the interface of UAD is not difficult. The zero latency is in only monitoring (of course it is not 0 ms either) for booth device. The recording latency depends on the set buffer and frequency values. ZenGo has DSP and FPGA own chip and processing.
I have the Apollo Twin USB, I’d get the Zen Go also because that’s just the kind of bastard I am 😎. Why not have both. Monthly payments is a beautiful thing.
Lmao go crazy!
Should put the zen go up against the ua arrow this was a great video but I think unfair put this up against the zen tour or the discrete 4 synergy core
Apollo is not even nearly as good as Antelope Zen go. People truly underestimate the power of conversion.. On which whole music is based on. Antelope is better anyday! 🙌
That is BS. ADC conversion is absolutely important and definitely makes a difference. Also when you are comparing 2 interfaces, you need to quote their Dynamic range.
I use the Zen Q, and it is an excellent interface. The converters are pristine, and in 2024, the drivers are strong. I have had zero drops. The effects are wonderful it is 100% stable i am a loyal user
I had both Antelope and UAD, the soundquality of the mic preampsi are better on the Apollo as you can hear, the plugins are better also. Good on the Zen go is, its USB powered, but bad is, everytime you start the Zen go, it connect via internet and then the mixer starts, so it takes longer. With the Zen Go I had minor soundproblems maybe twice a month in everyday use. The Apollo is more stable, but exspensive even if they didnt improve much over the years. I sold the Zen go and got a used Discrete 4 from Antelope, which is a similar to the Zen go but with much more possibilities.I had the Apollo Twin and now I have the UAD X4. Both Supports are good and helped me very well. I think the UADs are 20% better but 50% more exspensive. If you are a good^musi^cian you can work well with both.
You meant "Discrete 4" from Antelope* ;)
Yes that one is fire! Today it costs the same as a Twin X Quad... both are expensive
@@RYOKER I had the Zen Go, then the Discrete 4", then the apollo twin and now the X4 ;-)
How do they both function on PC? I’ve got an Apollo Twin MKII & I can’t for the life of me get it to work on mine. It’s great on my Mac tho.
@@dandanthesoundman7607 used them only on a mac sorry
Bro is you could talk less between the two examples🤦🏽♂️ you literally ruined the listening test. You talked way too much every time👎🏽
But from what I can hear, the Antelope has more sibilance which isn’t a good things. I think people believe brighter is better, it’s not. Clean and smooth is better. You can add saturation and color to a clean signal.
Man thanks for this video! I actually think the Zen Go sounds better. I'm not sure if we can tell that a preference, but for me the sound you showed from the Zen Go has more soundstage and vibrance, it makes my senses and emotions really turn on!
you can use the plugins with afx2daw in mixing
yes
I had both zen go is the go to I go to best sound and converters also the 1073 preamp on the built in system sounds exactly like my Bae 1073 so great if I want to have two inputs with tge 1073 preamp and sounds exactly the same
u mean the zentour version has the 1073 version preamp??
@@amonchhetri1053you can buy the bae for zen go
'Antelope Zen Q' would have been a way better contender for the Apollo Twin. At first I thought I was watching this! haha... that's what I'm looking for today
Somebody please make that review haha
Man i have both of them interfaces and i love them both ! They both sounds dope and can make great music with both of them 💯
really? do you thnk uad apollo as i see the waveform its more dynamic in the preamps right? it has more dynamics, if you see the waveform in the video
@@dcoverzsessions these were two different recordings, you cant compare the waveform !
@@asdfadafads i see! so which one do you think sounds better? and which one does it have better headphone amplifirer?
I think the zen go is much better
The apollo twin is just overhyped
Totally mate.
Wait, about the stuuf thats not the thing, the sound and colour of the zen go r brutal than the Apollo expensive shit....
I like how the zen go capture that low rumble of gang. I really felt it. If you know what I mean. Also the Apollo sounds good, but the zen go kinda hit different. For $500 and everything offered, it's not a bad deal at all
I run a Twin on windows with no problems ever and it Thunderbolt. The Zen also has DSP. Cool video Bro.
Hey buddy, which Twin are you using on Windows? I've got the Apollo Twin MkII & I cannot for the life of me get it to work on my PC system. I've got an AMD motherboard.
this guy is giving false info
Sorry bro. It took me quite a while to do research for this video and I was trying my best to avoid that and give accurate info 🙏🏾 plz don’t refrain from letting me know what I need to change. I’m willing to learn. That way I can inform others 🤞🏾
@@keenproductions9804 The plugins are real time and can be used inside your DAW. In a nutshell the plugins function exactly the same way on both sound cards of course you may like the emulation from one better but they function the same way in real time.
Dude! The Twin is trash, or at least it will be in 8 years after you buy one. That's how long mine lasted and it was buggy the whole time I had it. Hooked up my Go Z today and it works perfectly. No noise. No pops or clicks. Just had to install the Voice Meeter app to get the PC and the interface to talk via Thunderbolt cable. I'm never looking back.
You are a great video presenter...seriously, and your music rocks! Here's the thing though, you need to do some more research to vet your reviews before you release them. The Zen Go has DSP processing built in and is like using kick-ass hardware in front of your tracks. AND you failed to mention when you were picking knits about this knob and that knob and two TRS outputs vs 4 that the Apollo unit is literally TWICE as expensive as the Zen Go. World class clocking, 5 world class very high end AD/DA convertor chips THIRTY-SEVEN free plugs and built-in 'verb for 500 BUCKS.
Read that again... $500!!! Just sayin', bruh.
Great comparison and choice and well done......but next!!!! ,,,,what if we compared $1000?? What if the comparison was Apollo $1000 vs a $1000 in Antelope......instead of ZenGo $500 vs a $1000 Antelope Quad 4 Pro vs $1000 Apollo Twin?
the synegy core help the real time plugins to work with out lags so it helps alot like a DSP for real time only
Everyone needs to put a solid PAUSE on buying anything Antelope right now. Marcel James (former 14 year engineer from Antelope Audio) is laying down the ugly hammer on all of the hidden software and hardware problems Antelope has been having over the years AND all of the negative social media comments they have been deleting. Marcel has one video out on TH-cam already. I have the Discrete 8 Synergy Core and for the last two years had multiple software issues and the LED panel text is now pixelated with dark orange and white text.
Yeah those reviews stopped me from buying from them
Ohh share the video 😢 I'm about to jump to Antelope!
@@RYOKER I have the Discrete 8 Synergy Core and hate it. I now use a Focusrite Clarette+ 8Pre and it's awesome! The drivers are rock solid AND the drivers also work with Windows WDM surround up to 7.1. Antelope makes janky drivers and hardware that fails. I'll never buy Antelope again.
@@andynonimuss6298 Ive had the Zen Tour SC for about 2 years now, i barely use its plugins, i use it more as a DAC and record its DB 25 audio output in an HDX system, i hate the matrix menu but it has never failed to me, what yours did to you?
@@c4n0 Multiple software issues with the Antelope drivers. Sometimes not even recognizing the interface and various randomness for 2 years. Also, the Antelope drivers do not support Windows WDM. I switched to a Focusrite Clarett+ 8Pre and all issues went away and now I also have full WDM support. Nice hardware means nothing without good drivers to support it.
You can simply see what uad plugins you have in your uad account. Then, just go into your meter settings, and “hide” the plugins you dont own. Super easy. Then youll only see what you own.
But why do they install all the plugins? Macs often run out of storage and uad drivers take up a lot of storage. Sounds phenomenal but UAD could look into it.
@@mukundvermaa computers in general run out of space.. just delete the plugins you don’t have
good vid but for someone whos done their homework, you site nothing so im assuming alot of this is cap lmao. UA doesnt claim to have zero latency, literally just go to there website. Synergy Core is defititely a chip in Antelope interfaces that does on board DSP. And when you say it doesnt sound as good are you talking about recording or what? L
So what made you choose the apollo?
"I did my research"... i think you need to research better cz you missed a WHOLE LOT
I use PC and i have never had an issue..
Hey bro, it's cool that you make comparisons, but I don't know if you know that the auditory memory is about 1-3 seconds, so it's better not to talk between switches to hear the differences better... Hang in there...😁
Antelope has better converter than uad but not better than rme, dad, lynx, prism, burl audio, black lion
UAD sounds much better and clarity in my ears.
UA is like Apple, i sold all my ua gear i are very happie outside thir littel extremly overrated ecosystem. but about this video its long and you dont have a clue what you talking about .. that not god fam
I like them both
Apollo never said all those plugins are free. They maybe give you 5 for free pending on which card you got. Those are demos or just the shop.
Uad like😂 wastage of money Antelope🥵😍😎😘
I have the apollo for windows and mac and they work exactly the same
no cable because it's appleollo
Plus one Zen Go because of price and package. The UAD you have initial plug-in package which is bigger on the antelope.
theres a diff for sure...zen go sounded cleaner, better
bro what a great video thank you very much!!
bro can you do a shootout between their internal DSP plugins and mastering loudness
As someone that owns the Twin Quad and the Discrete 4 Synergy Core, they're both great, but the preamps are better on the Antelopes. It's just a bit more complicated to use compared to the UA interface's. Also, no thunderbolt cable costs $10. Cheapest cable goes for $35. In fact, no thunderbolt peripherals include a Thunderbolt cable. Gotta blame Intel for that.
Is ditching my Apollo for a apogee worth it from the preamp quality. Even if it means losing unison
I second this.i had the new apollo x6 the converters are not that great. You're more paying for the plugins and dsp.which I could careless about long story short I got the antelope discrete 8 I was shock on how lush and wide and full it sounded when compared to the uad.plus no one uses their converters really.
@@shevyjohn9308 people argue with converters being subtle but for vocals… I hear the difference…. I mean a good preamp is good to have but converters of you’re signal path is number 1 imo, vocals sound smoother, open less sibilant and more round
@@rylandweet7750 I hear major difference from the apollo I only had the x6 for 2 months I was coming from the focusrite pro40 for like 8 years.the apollo was a huge upgrade but when I tested the antelope it blew the apollo by far In sound quality. Yes there is a learning curve using the interface software but I'm like 80 % good with it now I can hear things in my mixes I couldn't hear with the aud,its like the blanket came off my sound huge upgrade for cheaper price.and as I stated I dont care about the dsp my mac is powerful enough
@@shevyjohn9308 totally man , I actually am the same about the dsp aswel, I’d rather pay for converters rather then the dsp and plug-ins anyway because at the end of the day we are recording audio and we all want the highest quality possible right , have you checked out the arturia audio fuse? Their converters are insane for the price along with their built in pre
Nice video bro, next time instead of boost the lower volume, you should trim the higher volume to match levels.
Thanks bro .... you really helped me .
Zen go all the way...
Hey super vidéo !
Do you thank zen go is ok with bigsur ?
And Logic Pro 10.7 ?
Mean thé last update ??
Thanks buddy !!
👍👍👍
Hi Keen.. Just wanted to know about.. Can I use Sinnehiser HD 600 headphone with antelope Zen go or ZenQ?.. Coz I m confused coz Sinnehiser is preferring for headphone amplifier 🧐🧐🧐🙏
jajaj genial aunque pense que estabas rapeando todo el video
What’s the transfer speed. Thunderbolt 3 is 40gbps what is it for the usbc for the zen go
do you thnk uad apollo as i see the waveform its more dynamic in the preamps right? it has more dynamics if you see the waveform in the video
tu ma convaincu fort le S je vais prendre antelope zen Go merci🙏
Thanks for the info.
Apollo twin should have USB-C connection!
They have a version with USB.
@@ReginaldKSon but its old 3.0 standard, not usb-c
@@Zagoorland I recently purchased the usb version. Unless you’re recording the Philharmonic, it will o you just fine.
FYI 0 latency only if u drop buffer
What mic r u using
Antelope Zen Q Synergy Core USB
Apollo does not wark with Mac M1 prossesor!! Just older mac!!
It does now
Thanks for this! 🔥
23:01 apollo
23:30 zen go
can i connect usb type c interface on thunderbolt 3?
Big thanks for this video
No Problem my man
apollo
Gay knob)
Super Review Bro! Thanks 🙌🎵
Which is best apollo twin Or antelope zen go.
I personally prefer the apollo twin
Zen go bro with its mastering grade cirrus logic converters
@@bighousemusic628 zen go or apogee symphony desktop
@@EM-km8em zen go is way better and for the price you cant go wrong industrial standard plugins and its mac and windows class compliance plus its a mastering grade cirrus logic converters
apollo
twin x tho!
Great Video!
great video - thank you!
Great demo!
thanks good job
The Apollo sound better, the Zen Go sound muddy and sibilant at the same time. The Zen Go is rounder but you can change the sound of the Apollo with a different Unison Pre or add the Fairchild Mkii for that round sound.
The Apollo is a best when we understand how much it can shape the sound.
diffrence with the price?????
Apollo Twin 1000 (Give or Take) Depending on which processor you buy
Zen Go - 500
Ah, appritiate your effort, but talking too much between comparison takes....do it pro next time... can't compare like that. Cheers
Thtats not the way to make a sound comparision.You must make A/B comparition really fast using solo button
Great Video
went from a defunk Beringer FCA 1616 to ZEN GO and the pre were wow! Basic audio to proper near pro/studio (there not lying and as well as the DAW the sound from my system jump up a few notches CLEAN sound and I can tweek out going streaming sound too, from what ever as there 4 channels for effects; just put computer 1 and computer 2 inputs on channel 3 and 4 link in the control pannel and have some fun tweeking effects on your favourite youtube videos. Analouge to digital conversion gone from something missing/never quite right(Quality of pre's make all the difference and A/D D/A conversion is excellent). I hear tell universal may just pip the ZEN GO but who cares. If your using a budget audio interface im telling you your wasting your time you need the quality of the zen go or universal apollo twin for two reason already stated Quality and to realise it not your fault it the crap you bought and nobody slaging it off. Nobody ever told me bugget gear wont cut it in fact it an eye opener why has nobody in the industry put people of from buying bugget so called pro audio interfaces with below power speakers and headphones.
Next port of call haft to save up, fancy the Adams A7X pricey but I no Know they will compliment the zen go. saying that my Alesis M1 MK2 active monitors I had from about 2007/8 still sound great for casual listening mixing ok and I use ultrasone pro 750 (there ancient too and well burnt in and yes they do emphasis the highs but nicely and good 4 mixing base as You get the detail. the ZEN GO as soon as I plug it in,has improved my system over all sound quality across the board.
Well Pleased if not a little pissed at the industry for not being totally honest. Bugget dont cut it! there a layer of fog that gets lifted and because of the price range the antelope audio ZEN GO has open the door to the next level PS it not really possible to hear the differance throught youtube because of one of the filters and two you need to be already listening throught an apollo, zen go or RME etc but the catch is don't spend what you can't afford and fit for purpose. If it purly to listen then may be best buying a DAC only.
To finish;recording into the zen go was a wow experience as I said before; my whole system has had the fog lifted. my speakers are not great but I heard the difference strait away. No reaching with my ears/mind, its not in my mind, I have'nt imagine it.
My room not treated so I treated myself to a foam glove. At first it sounded terrible then I removed the filter and the other bit of foam called the adapter for small mikes(silly me; I did not no that was in there) then I got a fairly slightly humm boxy sound which the Ba pre does a beautiful job of soughting this out. The limit amount of vocal processors and compressors that you get in the package need a bit of experimentation. I don't play guitar so alot of the effects at present of no use to me(idea; maybe antelope will swop them hehe).
To say I am pleased is an understatement and antelope seem to have iron out most of the buggs(it has crash a couple of times the control pannel that is while getting use to it) just recieved an update to 2.5.20 but no list of improvments strange
but antelope a bit like that;they release things, it like there lack of tutorials or the old ones need updating and they don't tell you what they improved. As I said Strange but its a wicked interface for £425 squids I bought last month (September 2021) and got that deal.
pleased as punch
Again great video oooo one other thing I never touch the controls of the Antelope Zen Go there no need everything is done from the control pannel and using a mouse.
Have a great day thank you.
For windows, you want to get the Apollo twin USB. It works great on Windows having the USB version
Gotta disagree with you. For my Windows rig I use the Antelope Audio Discrete 4 Synergy Core. Works like a charm for me.
@@TuMalditaMadre I wasn’t commenting on which one to get between the antelope and Apollo. I was responding to the creators comment about the Apollo not working on windows machines in which you want the usb version of the Apollo and not the thunderbolt version unless you have an Intel cpu and a motherboard that supports thunderbolt.
@@MegaLilWade gotcha
@@MegaLilWade Many people had issues with both versions for Windows
@@reekrodriqguez6552 I never had any issues with the usb version. But I am in IT so I know how to troubleshoot and I know how to take care of my devices so 🤷🏾♂️
zen go is a good price but lets be honest the apollo has that loudness that the zen go doesnt have so if have a large room and lookin \g for that loudness when mixing and mastering its best to go with the apollo
Apollo converters are not mastering grade tho.antelope converters sounds better
Loud good, go boom
zengo sounds better
Lol this guys knowledge is on another level appolo converters not even close to zengo 😂 zengo is one of the loudest DA conversion .